I hate Trust

[f13ticket]

Why do so many people keep avowing that my salvation is to come from letting go and trusting? Is not the reason the world is in the mess it is now that it has trusted? The banksters work off the public ignorantly putting trust into them. As do the politicians. How is the force that feeds the beast supposed to set us free?

[whiteknightd]

seriously...it makes me wonder. why would "God" let this go on for so long? and why would he tempt us beyond our control so much? sounds very sadistic if you ask me.

i'm not even like that with my child or pets lol !

how much longer does this insanity have to persist? do we honestly deserve this?

fuck it

[nectars]

It provides the opportunity of choice and limited free-will.

[mercury_dreams]

I've gone back and forth on this point many times. On one hand, I allowed myself to flow with life, giving up control so to speak and going where life takes me. (yes it works) But when the depression hits (as it always does, thankfully) I gain a deeper perspective and I give life a big flying fuck you. I don't like how I have to be life's bitch, and if I resist then I always end up suffering. There is no free will, you either flow with life or suffer.

I find people who flow with life extremely annoying, I'm sorry to say. I can totally understand why a person would join the dark side after seeing these naive children having a good time, talking about how great life is, when children are being born deformed from depleted uranium, and people are ready to commit suicide because they have morgellons. If there is a God who is orchestrating all this, I just want to bash that motherfuckers teeth in. It makes me so angry that I have to surrender to this life that he created when it's so half ugly. Imagine a person with half an ugly face and half a beautiful face representing life.

[f13ticket]

It provides the opportunity of choice and limited free-will.

True, but it has provided it to those who seeded it to others who would use it as means for nefarious ends.

[verndewd]

seriously...it makes me wonder. why would "God" let this go on for so long? and why would he tempt us beyond our control so much? sounds very sadistic if you ask me.

i'm not even like that with my child or pets lol !

how much longer does this insanity have to persist? do we honestly deserve this?

fuck it

of course we deserve it , we choose it.

[verndewd]

I've gone back and forth on this point many times. On one hand, I allowed myself to flow with life, giving up control so to speak and going where life takes me. (yes it works) But when the depression hits (as it always does, thankfully) I gain a deeper perspective and I give life a big flying fuck you. I don't like how I have to be life's bitch, and if I resist then I always end up suffering. There is no free will, you either flow with life or suffer.

I find people who flow with life extremely annoying, I'm sorry to say. I can totally understand why a person would join the dark side after seeing these naive children having a good time, talking about how great life is, when children are being born deformed from depleted uranium, and people are ready to commit suicide because they have morgellons. If there is a God who is orchestrating all this, I just want to bash that motherfuckers teeth in. It makes me so angry that I have to surrender to this life that he created when it's so half ugly. Imagine a person with half an ugly face and half a beautiful face representing life.

The dark side cannot maintain its own creation and needs to suck the life out of living creation to exist. not an enviable place. I used to see that as well even knowing that its a leach on creation.

[archemis]

Why do so many people keep avowing that my salvation is to come from letting go and trusting? Is not the reason the world is in the mess it is now that it has trusted? The banksters work off the public ignorantly putting trust into them. As do the politicians. How is the force that feeds the beast supposed to set us free?

That's the paradox of faith ... putting trust in something that often doesn't seem visible or apparent to us. No one said it was easy lol.

The force doesn't feed the beast. The lack of love / force feeds it. Nothing is outside of Source, and at the core of their being, everyone is pure source. The problems come from the apparent separation from Source, which is imposed by the mind. The mind was originally designed to be a servant computer to the (sacred) heart. Unfortunately, and particularly in Western culture, the mind has dominated, to such a degree, that it has even managed to convince some that the sacred heart / source don't even exist.

Free will, means having the freedom to make choices. Choices made from the mind, through lack of love /source, create all of the horror and fear that we see in our World. At times, it seems cruel that we have to experience this and it gives mind based assumptions that either Source /God doesn't exist, doesn't care, or is actually behind some of it ... maybe having a good laugh at our expense :). Nothing is further from the Truth. If we didn't have free will, we would not be free or individual, we would be subject to a benign dictatorship.

All suffering is caused by lack of love .. not the love that you have for your kids, partner, new car etc, but all and much more than this. At your centre, we are all pure love. .. all of us, no matter whether saint or serial killer. Love is not polarised i.e it has no opposite, it is a constant. Hate is not the opposite of love, hate is an absense of love. Source / Spirit is a constant within all of us, it cannot be broken down, de lineated, amended, corrupted .. . the variable is the level to which Source is accessed, via the DNA computer of the mind, which then expresses itself outwardly as personality, ego etc.

None of this can be proven by text, videos, or anything external. Proof can only be obtained by shifting your consciousness into the sacred heart and regaining its' command over the mind. The simplest way to do this is to meditate and go within. As you meditate, shift your conscious focus to an area just below, and behind your physical heart. This is where your sacred heart resides. Just focusing on this may produce a response in the physical and etheric body, because you are effectively reconnecting with every cell. When you are 'here', ask your questions and you WILL receive your answers but you will need to be open to receive them via intuition and / or your 5 physical senses, and you may, or may not, receive them instantly, so keep listening and being aware, as you go through your day to day stuff :)

A wonderful book that may help, is 'Love Without End' by Glenda Green. I have read hundreds of books, from religion to science to occult to history etc, and if I could only read one, it would be this one.


love
A x

[f13ticket]

That's the paradox of faith ... putting trust in something that often doesn't seem visible or apparent to us. No one said it was easy lol.

The force doesn't feed the beast. The lack of love / force feeds it. Nothing is outside of Source, and at the core of their being, everyone is pure source. The problems come from the apparent separation from Source, which is imposed by the mind. The mind was originally designed to be a servant computer to the (sacred) heart. Unfortunately, and particularly in Western culture, the mind has dominated, to such a degree, that it has even managed to convince some that the sacred heart / source don't even exist.

Free will, means having the freedom to make choices. Choices made from the mind, through lack of love /source, create all of the horror and fear that we see in our World. At times, it seems cruel that we have to experience this and it gives mind based assumptions that either Source /God doesn't exist, doesn't care, or is actually behind some of it ... maybe having a good laugh at our expense :). Nothing is further from the Truth. If we didn't have free will, we would not be free or individual, we would be subject to a benign dictatorship.

All suffering is caused by lack of love .. not the love that you have for your kids, partner, new car etc, but all and much more than this. At your centre, we are all pure love. .. all of us, no matter whether saint or serial killer. Love is not polarised i.e it has no opposite, it is a constant. Hate is not the opposite of love, hate is an absense of love. Source / Spirit is a constant within all of us, it cannot be broken down, de lineated, amended, corrupted .. . the variable is the level to which Source is accessed, via the DNA computer of the mind, which then expresses itself outwardly as personality, ego etc.

None of this can be proven by text, videos, or anything external. Proof can only be obtained by shifting your consciousness into the sacred heart and regaining its' command over the mind. The simplest way to do this is to meditate and go within. As you meditate, shift your conscious focus to an area just below, and behind your physical heart. This is where your sacred heart resides. Just focusing on this may produce a response in the physical and etheric body, because you are effectively reconnecting with every cell. When you are 'here', ask your questions and you WILL receive your answers but you will need to be open to receive them via intuition and / or your 5 physical senses, and you may, or may not, receive them instantly, so keep listening and being aware, as you go through your day to day stuff :)

A wonderful book that may help, is 'Love Without End' by Glenda Green. I have read hundreds of books, from religion to science to occult to history etc, and if I could only read one, it would be this one.


love
A x

Unlike Science and the Occult, your suggestion is too without controll for my taste. Almost everyone keeps telling me to do this. When I try to meditate I get fidgety and bored. When I try to ask my self deep questions, it just reminds me how awful and lonely I feel. I start to become afraid of almost everything, which I can not do when my mind is busy with other things. How is this source of un-scientific boredom and pain supposed to be my salvation?

I am not trying to be rude, just honest. And thank you for taking time to reply to me.

[farros]

Why do so many people keep avowing that my salvation is to come from letting go and trusting? Is not the reason the world is in the mess it is now that it has trusted? The banksters work off the public ignorantly putting trust into them. As do the politicians. How is the force that feeds the beast supposed to set us free?

You can only save yourself. Seek to open your mind and heart. External reality is simply a tool to aid this process. Only you know what you must do to become the person you wish to be. Laziness and making excuses, blaming others is a redundant waste of time. It has no bearing on the things you can do to better yourself now. Ask yourself what dont you like about yourself, what habits you have but wish you didnt.. regardless of what happens in the world, you will still feel a prisoner if you dont overcome them. Even in a utopia you would still feel this way. Its not about whats happening outside of you. Heal the world by healing yourself. The enlightened man forgives the banker.

[asleepawake]

To all the people upset at ''Life''. Boo fucking hoo.
If it wern't for life you wouldn't be able to moan about it, and you still want it otherwise you wouldn't be here.

All the situations you've ever been in, you've accepted so the only people we truly have to blame for most of our problems, are ourselves. We all came here for a reason, to fight, or not to fight.

[nectars]

Unlike Science and the Occult, your suggestion is too without controll for my taste. Almost everyone keeps telling me to do this. When I try to meditate I get fidgety and bored. When I try to ask my self deep questions, it just reminds me how awful and lonely I feel. I start to become afraid of almost everything, which I can not do when my mind is busy with other things. How is this source of un-scientific boredom and pain supposed to be my salvation?

I am not trying to be rude, just honest. And thank you for taking time to reply to me.

Start with your feelings, their whats are causing your boredom, pain etc. You can either let them go, accept them or trasmute them. Either way, if you dont face them then they'll stay there recreating the escapes your already using to flee them.

[verndewd]

Heres your solution to all things material.

Stop taking it personally and victimizing your energy with it. It doesnt matter it really doesnt. What matters is you find and develop your own connection and the rest be damned or saved by the same free choice.

trust on this plane is like expecting an ape to appreciate a mansion. Its really a stupid notion. If you are elevated you see trust as a mechanism for crooks and liars and fools. trust only applies in the past tense and as speculation on future actions, And I mean skeptical speculation.

Even you cannot trust you in certain environments, but you can trust that the collective wont disassemble the subatomic realm just because you got drunk and slept with 3 women a goat and a hamster all at the same time.

In order to guage trust you need a mature outlook on what trust actually is as a mechanism of creation.

[f13ticket]

Heres your solution to all things material.

Stop taking it personally and victimizing your energy with it. It doesnt matter it really doesnt. What matters is you find and develop your own connection and the rest be damned or saved by the same free choice.

trust on this plane is like expecting an ape to appreciate a mansion. Its really a stupid notion. If you are elevated you see trust as a mechanism for crooks and liars and fools. trust only applies in the past tense and as speculation on future actions, And I mean skeptical speculation.

Even you cannot trust you in certain environments, but you can trust that the collective wont disassemble the subatomic realm just because you got drunk and slept with 3 women a goat and a hamster all at the same time.

In order to guage trust you need a mature outlook on what trust actually is as a mechanism of creation.

I could get drunk and sleep with people. Also, I do ask if things can be disassembled. (Hence me repeating the question of whether or not we can permanently kill God/Oneness if we will it. As this worries me.) Also, people could nuke everything at any moment.

I gets drunk anyway cause I like sex.:p But that's somewhat besides the point that people can kill us all (or most of us) at any moment. And it looks as if we might be gearing up for another world war. (As should be expected any time now from prophecy.) A war that will likely, if allowed to, kill almost everything in a nuclear hell-fire.

Yes, somehow, the answer is that I should be sitting on my ass chanting, "ummmmm, ummmmm?" You must concede that to someone like me that meditation sounds completely asinine and childish. Akin to sticking your head in the ground (or up where the sun-god does not shine) and hoping and wishing that all the bad stuff will just go away on its own if you keep ignoring it and pretending that it can't hurt you.

David Icke keeps saying that if he does not decode his assassination it won't happen. How does him pretending that no one can shoot him make sure he can't get shot? I love Icke, and hope he never gets killed. But, in all honesty, isn't he just deluding himself to try to stay sane?

Meditation, if done right, can give insight. But most Spiritual traditions make it sound like it is some all-powerful thing that can change and shape the world and make sure you are never killed by assassination. Isn't that a bit, well, too far fetched? I'm not saying to not have confidence. I just think some people are using it as means for self delusion and not in a practical way. We live in a shared world. If someone with a more powerful Will (or a powerful group) wills your physical death; it's going to happen no matter what you will. To think otherwise ignores the basic fact that this world is a collective.

It's like in Elm Street movies where, usually, when people just try to pretend Freddy is not real and can not hurt them. Then he comes in, kills them in a personal and insulting way, and I laugh because (I know its a movie and no one died) in a way they were asking for it by being so willfully self-deluded. (Which doesn't mean they deserve it. I laugh because it's ironic.)

[infinite tea]

seriously...it makes me wonder. why would "God" let this go on for so long? and why would he tempt us beyond our control so much? sounds very sadistic if you ask me.

i'm not even like that with my child or pets lol !

how much longer does this insanity have to persist? do we honestly deserve this?

fuck it

God is everything, that means YOU are God - if you do not know YOU are God then you are giving away YOUR power - if you trust in something outside of yourself or feel betrayed by something outside of yourself then YOU are giving away YOUR power.

The sadism is a slap in the face by yourself to yourself, YOU are better than this - it is time to grasp the nettle and become what YOU already are.

This is an entertainment by yourself for yourself and to yourself - it is a game of becoming and just like great sex you do not want it to be too easy, to available or too nice in order to give yourself the biggest orgasm ;-)

If it was too easy you would get bored and YOU are better than that and greater than that.

If it was too quick YOU would become dissatisfied and YOU are better than that and greater than that.

If it was too nice YOU would become dissatisfied and YOU are better than that and greater than that.

This is a test YOU set yourself....step up to the plate....stop winging, swallow your fear and DO IT.

[infinite tea]

Why do so many people keep avowing that my salvation is to come from letting go and trusting? Is not the reason the world is in the mess it is now that it has trusted? The banksters work off the public ignorantly putting trust into them. As do the politicians. How is the force that feeds the beast supposed to set us free?

Why do you hate trust? What are you afraid of?

[infinite tea]

I've gone back and forth on this point many times. On one hand, I allowed myself to flow with life, giving up control so to speak and going where life takes me. (yes it works) But when the depression hits (as it always does, thankfully) I gain a deeper perspective and I give life a big flying fuck you. I don't like how I have to be life's bitch, and if I resist then I always end up suffering. There is no free will, you either flow with life or suffer.

I find people who flow with life extremely annoying, I'm sorry to say. I can totally understand why a person would join the dark side after seeing these naive children having a good time, talking about how great life is, when children are being born deformed from depleted uranium, and people are ready to commit suicide because they have morgellons. If there is a God who is orchestrating all this, I just want to bash that motherfuckers teeth in. It makes me so angry that I have to surrender to this life that he created when it's so half ugly. Imagine a person with half an ugly face and half a beautiful face representing life.

People who flow with life and are annoying are not flowing with life :-)

Sometimes the flow requires you to be angry, to kick back and other times it requires you to be happy and contented, yet other times pervy and wrong lol. the flow is a flow of truth and it requires a different response to different questions asked. It's like karate....it takes a real master to be able to stand completely still and defeat an aggressive opponent!!

[zero1]

When I try to meditate I get fidgety and bored. When I try to ask my self deep questions, it just reminds me how awful and lonely I feel. I start to become afraid of almost everything, which I can not do when my mind is busy with other things.

Yes I know what you mean. It's probably no help, and the quote is double-edged itself, but here's some old wisdom -

"He who does not trust enough, will not be trusted" - Lao Tzu

Start with trusting yourself to be all that you can be. Learn to love yourself; like trust, you can't love another before you know how to love yourself, and you can't trust another without learning to trust yourself first.

I know about being bored, lonely and afraid of everything; believe me. It's a constant struggle; but a little knowledge in the light of love and trust can turn things around. Trust me. :)

[verndewd]

I could get drunk and sleep with people. Also, I do ask if things can be disassembled. (Hence me repeating the question of whether or not we can permanently kill God/Oneness if we will it. As this worries me.) Also, people could nuke everything at any moment.

I gets drunk anyway cause I like sex.:p But that's somewhat besides the point that people can kill us all (or most of us) at any moment. And it looks as if we might be gearing up for another world war. (As should be expected any time now from prophecy.) A war that will likely, if allowed to, kill almost everything in a nuclear hell-fire.

Yes, somehow, the answer is that I should be sitting on my ass chanting, "ummmmm, ummmmm?" You must concede that to someone like me that meditation sounds completely asinine and childish. Akin to sticking your head in the ground (or up where the sun-god does not shine) and hoping and wishing that all the bad stuff will just go away on its own if you keep ignoring it and pretending that it can't hurt you.

David Icke keeps saying that if he does not decode his assassination it won't happen. How does him pretending that no one can shoot him make sure he can't get shot? I love Icke, and hope he never gets killed. But, in all honesty, isn't he just deluding himself to try to stay sane?

Meditation, if done right, can give insight. But most Spiritual traditions make it sound like it is some all-powerful thing that can change and shape the world and make sure you are never killed by assassination. Isn't that a bit, well, too far fetched? I'm not saying to not have confidence. I just think some people are using it as means for self delusion and not in a practical way. We live in a shared world. If someone with a more powerful Will (or a powerful group) wills your physical death; it's going to happen no matter what you will. To think otherwise ignores the basic fact that this world is a collective.

It's like in Elm Street movies where, usually, when people just try to pretend Freddy is not real and can not hurt them. Then he comes in, kills them in a personal and insulting way, and I laugh because (I know its a movie and no one died) in a way they were asking for it by being so willfully self-deluded. (Which doesn't mean they deserve it. I laugh because it's ironic.)

Ask my sister the rambling poet. about meditation , she and I both have had incredible experiences. Need to get to the point of complete inner silence and outer calm. Without it you cannot advance in meditation. When you are meditating Aums vocally that is a technique intended to clear the mind of everything.

You dont get past expectation and so the result is boredom, when you mediatate to the point where you dont know if youre breathing because you have slowed the breathing , that alone is phenomenal. you are not even noticeably taking in air but you arent desperate for air. Its really a crazy experience.

When you are totally clear of ego and can visualize the light at the forhead and open it, then you can experience what you were meant to. Even if its as one case i had where its foretelling the future. You could visit other planets or galaxies or even speak with ascended beings.

Meditation is a way to connect to the higher prescient mind where you can learn to speak to your surroundings be they animate or not. Its not trickery or imagination. I have learned over the years to communicate energetically with animals and they respond. While its not completely lucid it is there. And I think its because of meditations .

Meditation is a state of energy awareness and you can actually do it while doing other things in order to communicate energetically with your surroundings.

[raven_patronus]

Why do so many people keep avowing that my salvation is to come from letting go and trusting? Is not the reason the world is in the mess it is now that it has trusted? The banksters work off the public ignorantly putting trust into them. As do the politicians. How is the force that feeds the beast supposed to set us free?

I think it is ultimately about trusting god. Not the banks, or anything like that. And not blaming them, either. When you blame them, you are also denying yourself. If you reject them, in your psyche they would be your shadow. All those things you refuse to acknowledge is a shadow.

Letting go, means setting your worst fears aide, imo.

I think trust is about seeing god in all things/people. You have to acknowledge that they're there...i don't think we should trust or follow them though.

I don't think I can answer your question, but I hoped I helped.

[verndewd]

I think it is ultimately about trusting god. Not the banks, or anything like that. And not blaming them, either. When you blame them, you are also denying yourself. If you reject them, in your psyche they would be your shadow. All those things you refuse to acknowledge is a shadow.

Letting go, means setting your worst fears aide, imo.

I think trust is about seeing god in all things/people. You have to acknowledge that they're there...i don't think we should trust or follow them though.

I don't think I can answer your question, but I hoped I helped.

try trusting in the god within. Without that there can never be a reasonable platform for any trust. I really want people to understand that you have to invoke your inner path to be able to trust in god. Everything must be transmuted to the divine or no matter what youre screwed because youre locked in a cycle of anti ascensionary decisions.

You either become compatible or you dont and that is the path within not from some soda stand god popsicle ideology.

[nectars]

Also, I do ask if things can be disassembled.

Yes though not so much "disassembled" as "removed" from having any personal reality. Ultimately creation is finished. Causation is merely an illusion that serves only to create seeming contrast for choice at the relative experiential level of various planes of existence.

Yes, somehow, the answer is that I should be sitting on my ass chanting, "ummmmm, ummmmm?" You must concede that to someone like me that meditation sounds completely asinine and childish.

People have funny ideas about what meditation is. Really its either quieting the mind or concentrating the attention on a specific question, event, concept etc. No sitting postures, weird mantras or mudras are necessary, these serve only to give the mind focus and often can actually be a distraction. Meditation can be done in every moment in any situation as can contemplation which is merely a different form of active meditation.

Hold one question, concept or with the intent to quiet the mind to the exclusion of all else and go about our business. Drop all feelings and thoughts that come up which are not in line with our question/intent and stay faithful to it itself. This can be done every second of every day.

Akin to sticking your head in the ground (or up where the sun-god does not shine) and hoping and wishing that all the bad stuff will just go away on its own if you keep ignoring it and pretending that it can't hurt you.

David Icke keeps saying that if he does not decode his assassination it won't happen. How does him pretending that no one can shoot him make sure he can't get shot? I love Icke, and hope he never gets killed. But, in all honesty, isn't he just deluding himself to try to stay sane?

Theres nothing out there but you -for you. Most of it being unconscious though its difficult to see this this unless one trains oneself to be very observant and to use introspection effectively. What dictates success is the level of sincerity, commitment, self honestly and most importantly the want to change.

If this is doubted then start feeling anxious or fearful about something regularly for a few day and then drop it(if you can by that point). Pay attention from then on to how events play out. Alternatively claim ourself to be something we're not, give some advice we dont follow ourself or boast about something we're not; the test will be quick in coming. The only reason we dont often associate internal movements with external events is seeming time lag.

Meditation, if done right, can give insight. But most Spiritual traditions make it sound like it is some all-powerful thing that can change and shape the world and make sure you are never killed by assassination. Isn't that a bit, well, too far fetched? I'm not saying to not have confidence. I just think some people are using it as means for self delusion and not in a practical way.

It wont "save us" and on its own wont change our world without more knowledge and that knowledge must be practiced and applied to be effective or even of any use. To me, we are going to die sooner or later and that time is already set -though the state of health we're in when we get there is a different matter. "Divine karma" is not subject to anything "we" do here in this life, only personal or individual karma is and can be transcended or removed quite easily.

We live in a shared world. If someone with a more powerful Will (or a powerful group) wills your physical death; it's going to happen no matter what you will. To think otherwise ignores the basic fact that this world is a collective.

Your subject to this because you trust and accept it as a fact, when in reality there are no facts. There is no fiction; there is no fact. All fact was once a fiction in the imagination of Man. No one can harm you mentally unless you accept that they can, though granted, recognising the signs of an attempted psychic attack can be useful at certain stages of growth.

"What seems to be, is, to those to whom it seems to be, and is productive of the most dreadful consequences to those to whom it seems to be, even of torments, despair, eternal death" - William Blake

[archemis]

Unlike Science and the Occult, your suggestion is too without controll for my taste. Almost everyone keeps telling me to do this. When I try to meditate I get fidgety and bored. When I try to ask my self deep questions, it just reminds me how awful and lonely I feel. I start to become afraid of almost everything, which I can not do when my mind is busy with other things. How is this source of un-scientific boredom and pain supposed to be my salvation?

I am not trying to be rude, just honest. And thank you for taking time to reply to me.

Hi there,

It can seem a bit 'catch 22' at times, because when you're in periods of fear, despair, feeling lonely etc, it can be difficult to comprehend much good at all or believe that it could really be any different, no matter what we do.

If you have trouble meditating, why not 'cheat' and use binaural beat technology. That's how I started out, and it was a pivotal point in my life. The technology unifies and balances the left and right brain hemispheres. I used Holosync, but there are plenty of other 'brands' available.

A x

[ignoranto_bliss]

I've gone back and forth on this point many times. On one hand, I allowed myself to flow with life, giving up control so to speak and going where life takes me. (yes it works) But when the depression hits (as it always does, thankfully) I gain a deeper perspective and I give life a big flying fuck you. I don't like how I have to be life's bitch, and if I resist then I always end up suffering. There is no free will, you either flow with life or suffer.

I find people who flow with life extremely annoying, I'm sorry to say. I can totally understand why a person would join the dark side after seeing these naive children having a good time, talking about how great life is, when children are being born deformed from depleted uranium, and people are ready to commit suicide because they have morgellons. If there is a God who is orchestrating all this, I just want to bash that motherfuckers teeth in. It makes me so angry that I have to surrender to this life that he created when it's so half ugly. Imagine a person with half an ugly face and half a beautiful face representing life.
There is no god !!! This motherfucker was created FOR YOU TO RELAY ON SOMETHING and WAIT AND DO NOTHING .

With gods help ... God help us ... God please i want to be a goalie like Shay Given...
NO fuking god fuk you !!! I will wake up 8 in the morning take a ball , gloves and go out and ask every passer by , to kick the ball as hard as they can , and will try to save it. And do it every day from morning to night .

Fuk you god !!!

[f13ticket]

Yes though not so much "disassembled" as "removed" from having any personal reality. Ultimately creation is finished. Causation is merely an illusion that serves only to create seeming contrast for choice at the relative experiential level of various planes of existence.



People have funny ideas about what meditation is. Really its either quieting the mind or concentrating the attention on a specific question, event, concept etc. No sitting postures, weird mantras or mudras are necessary, these serve only to give the mind focus and often can actually be a distraction. Meditation can be done in every moment in any situation as can contemplation which is merely a different form of active meditation.

Hold one question, concept or with the intent to quiet the mind to the exclusion of all else and go about our business. Drop all feelings and thoughts that come up which are not in line with our question/intent and stay faithful to it itself. This can be done every second of every day.



Theres nothing out there but you -for you. Most of it being unconscious though its difficult to see this this unless one trains oneself to be very observant and to use introspection effectively. What dictates success is the level of sincerity, commitment, self honestly and most importantly the want to change.

If this is doubted then start feeling anxious or fearful about something regularly for a few day and then drop it(if you can by that point). Pay attention from then on to how events play out. Alternatively claim ourself to be something we're not, give some advice we dont follow ourself or boast about something we're not; the test will be quick in coming. The only reason we dont often associate internal movements with external events is seeming time lag.



It wont "save us" and on its own wont change our world without more knowledge and that knowledge must be practiced and applied to be effective or even of any use. To me, we are going to die sooner or later and that time is already set -though the state of health we're in when we get there is a different matter. "Divine karma" is not subject to anything "we" do here in this life, only personal or individual karma is and can be transcended or removed quite easily.



Your subject to this because you trust and accept it as a fact, when in reality there are no facts. There is no fiction; there is no fact. All fact was once a fiction in the imagination of Man. No one can harm you mentally unless you accept that they can, though granted, recognising the signs of an attempted psychic attack can be useful at certain stages of growth.

"What seems to be, is, to those to whom it seems to be, and is productive of the most dreadful consequences to those to whom it seems to be, even of torments, despair, eternal death" - William Blake

It's difficult for me at times. For a life/world that is a mirror of who I am, it seems the more I try to do good the more people hate me and the more it backfires at me. (Not specifically on this forum. You people are intelligent, fun, and give me [often] great debate.) But outside these walls in the rest of the world any talk about any concepts of freedom or anything else flies back into my face with a maelstrom of furry and anger.

I suppose this is the result of combing the mirror. But I don't know how to do anything else. Or, better phrased, when I try to doesn't work very well. Perhaps I will try for an hour to meditate today after my Alex Jones. (Though after listening to world politics is probably not the best time to try to meditate. It's mostly the only time open my my day. As I have not yet found a job, hence don't wake up until 9 or 10, listen to Alex from 11 to 3; and my parents come home out 4. And it's almost impossible to meditate then until then go to bed as they make lots of noise by watching TV in the other room. Plus, the house feels different with them in it. It is very distracting.)

I will try for an hour. This time without a crystal ball. Though, I do think I would do better with something to focus on that would act as a catalyst for visions. Perhaps this is a bit naive, but I like using external tools because I feel I have more control. I feel safer with Tarot Cards and a Talking Board than channeling. (Not sure if I have ever channeled. I do this thing where I kind of sing/chant whatever comes to mind and I got some interesting stuff. That could just be me being creative.) Focusing on a ball makes me feel safer than focusing inside of me. But I will try it without the ball for an hour and see if it does anything.

I already worked up and frustrated today. (I usually am. That or sleepy.) In a way, I kind of want to avoid this world and make my own. Even if I figure out how to change this world, it's kind of too far gone to easily get back. It almost seems a fool's errand, but sometimes going out on a limb is worth while. But my motives are still out of place, and that hampers me. When I try to wake people up, it's more so that I can feel good about myself as a leader and contributor than it is about me really caring about them being woken up. But, they still get woken up either way I suppose.

That's a difficult thing about activism. If I don't do it, I feel like I am doing nothing. If I do do it, I feel like I am doing it for me and not the other people. And, if I don't get something in return (like good karma bounce back in the form of a date or a new friend or at the very least a pat on the back and a little hero worship) I feel like I have wasted me time, more or less, regardless if I have woken anyone up or not.

It's difficult. In many ways I have learned more knowledge than have gathered the wisdom to use and spread it well. And, I have done so more out of fear and desperation from seeing what not having the knowledge does to people than out of anything that could be described as peace, love, or even a scholarly pursuit. So, someone gaining knowledge without the matching wisdom from the motivation of fear, insecurity, desperation, and a desire to control does not make for a good combination. I'm wise enough to know I suck.

[nectars]

It's difficult for me at times. For a life/world that is a mirror of who I am, it seems the more I try to do good the more people hate me and the more it backfires at me. (Not specifically on this forum. You people are intelligent, fun, and give me [often] great debate.) But outside these walls in the rest of the world any talk about any concepts of freedom or anything else flies back into my face with a maelstrom of furry and anger.

The results you get in life are nothing to do with what your "doing". Their consequesnces of "what you are(being)" in relation to any given situation. You can do nothing or anything and it really doesn't matter one iota one way or the other, yet if you have a screwed up attitude it will reflect back at you.

I suppose this is the result of combing the mirror. But I don't know how to do anything else. Or, better phrased, when I try to doesn't work very well. Perhaps I will try for an hour to meditate today after my Alex Jones. (Though after listening to world politics is probably not the best time to try to meditate. It's mostly the only time open my my day. As I have not yet found a job, hence don't wake up until 9 or 10, listen to Alex from 11 to 3; and my parents come home out 4. And it's almost impossible to meditate then until then go to bed as they make lots of noise by watching TV in the other room. Plus, the house feels different with them in it. It is very distracting.)

No offence, but 4 hours solid of AJ every day and what your picking up from "what he is"(not just what he's saying) would mentally, emotionally and physically fold almost anyone. I personally wouldn't want to opt for it myself and consider this one of the traps of the whole "conspiracy movement". You either desensitized and programmed by the media or by the "anti-media"; yet what difference does it really make, its all the same crap on a personal level.

From the above it seems you really need to make a choice in whether your priorities lie in fixing yourself or trying to fix the world. As Franz Bardon once said, "he who chases two hares catches neither" or alternatively "you cant serve two masters".

Theres no right or wrong in this choice btw, so dont go beating yourself up over whether you'll "choose right". Things tend to happen when their supposed to so on a certain level your decision has already been made, the only choice you really have is whether its easy or difficult to manouver through and into.

I will try for an hour. This time without a crystal ball. Though, I do think I would do better with something to focus on that would act as a catalyst for visions. Perhaps this is a bit naive, but I like using external tools because I feel I have more control. I feel safer with Tarot Cards and a Talking Board than channeling. (Not sure if I have ever channeled. I do this thing where I kind of sing/chant whatever comes to mind and I got some interesting stuff. That could just be me being creative.) Focusing on a ball makes me feel safer than focusing inside of me. But I will try it without the ball for an hour and see if it does anything.

"That could just be me being creative"

All spirits, entities etc. are like us in a way nothing more than energy fields within successively larger energy fields within consciousness so its always on some level "just being creative". If its useful then its just as valid as if it had came through some entity you'd expected so dont sweat it. This is actually a partial reason why I turned all interest from the occult. You cant court that stuff and not expect to get what it involves -and its not always pretty.

I personally prefer contemplative "meditation" sticking to a single concept or with a single intent. The trick is not to think about it and just "look" at it, eventually you'll "see" the answer without the need for thought.

I already worked up and frustrated today. (I usually am. That or sleepy.) In a way, I kind of want to avoid this world and make my own. Even if I figure out how to change this world, it's kind of too far gone to easily get back. It almost seems a fool's errand, but sometimes going out on a limb is worth while. But my motives are still out of place, and that hampers me. When I try to wake people up, it's more so that I can feel good about myself as a leader and contributor than it is about me really caring about them being woken up. But, they still get woken up either way I suppose.

That's a difficult thing about activism. If I don't do it, I feel like I am doing nothing. If I do do it, I feel like I am doing it for me and not the other people. And, if I don't get something in return (like good karma bounce back in the form of a date or a new friend or at the very least a pat on the back and a little hero worship) I feel like I have wasted me time, more or less, regardless if I have woken anyone up or not.

See my first paragraph and pay more attention to the state your in. The state your in itself actually holds the key to its own undoing. Action though is a mental act; seeming choices of physical movement are already determined, this is the fallacy of free will.

It's difficult. In many ways I have learned more knowledge than have gathered the wisdom to use and spread it well. And, I have done so more out of fear and desperation from seeing what not having the knowledge does to people than out of anything that could be described as peace, love, or even a scholarly pursuit. So, someone gaining knowledge without the matching wisdom from the motivation of fear, insecurity, desperation, and a desire to control does not make for a good combination. I'm wise enough to know I suck.

Your too hard on yourself for a start.

You think "we" all have it together? Not quite. Perhaps more than most but life(especially if you have a family) is quite the obstacle to the required work. Yet the paradox is that its the one thing thats needed to undo the reactions to it.

A constant theme that seem to run through your posts is one of indecision. I mean that in the nicest way possible, but it sounds like you know what you need to do and dont want to do it. Decide one way or the other and throw yourself into it; otherwise you'll never know what the right choice was. Indecision and procrastination are paralysing. At least if you make the wrong choice you automatically know what the right one was.

[f13ticket]

The results you get in life are nothing to do with what your "doing". Their consequesnces of "what you are(being)" in relation to any given situation. You can do nothing or anything and it really doesn't matter one iota one way or the other, yet if you have a screwed up attitude it will reflect back at you.



No offence, but 4 hours solid of AJ every day and what your picking up from "what he is"(not just what he's saying) would mentally, emotionally and physically fold almost anyone. I personally wouldn't want to opt for it myself and consider this one of the traps of the whole "conspiracy movement". You either desensitized and programmed by the media or by the "anti-media"; yet what difference does it really make, its all the same crap on a personal level.

From the above it seems you really need to make a choice in whether your priorities lie in fixing yourself or trying to fix the world. As Franz Bardon once said, "he who chases two hares catches neither" or alternatively "you cant serve two masters".

Theres no right or wrong in this choice btw, so dont go beating yourself up over whether you'll "choose right". Things tend to happen when their supposed to so on a certain level your decision has already been made, the only choice you really have is whether its easy or difficult to manouver through and into.



"That could just be me being creative"

All spirits, entities etc. are like us in a way nothing more than energy fields within successively larger energy fields within consciousness so its always on some level "just being creative". If its useful then its just as valid as if it had came through some entity you'd expected so dont sweat it. This is actually a partial reason why I turned all interest from the occult. You cant court that stuff and not expect to get what it involves -and its not always pretty.

I personally prefer contemplative "meditation" sticking to a single concept or with a single intent. The trick is not to think about it and just "look" at it, eventually you'll "see" the answer without the need for thought.



See my first paragraph and pay more attention to the state your in. The state your in itself actually holds the key to its own undoing. Action though is a mental act; seeming choices of physical movement are already determined, this is the fallacy of free will.



Your too hard on yourself for a start.

You think "we" all have it together? Not quite. Perhaps more than most but life(especially if you have a family) is quite the obstacle to the required work. Yet the paradox is that its the one thing thats needed to undo the reactions to it.

A constant theme that seem to run through your posts is one of indecision. I mean that in the nicest way possible, but it sounds like you know what you need to do and dont want to do it. Decide one way or the other and throw yourself into it; otherwise you'll never know what the right choice was. Indecision and procrastination are paralysing. At least if you make the wrong choice you automatically know what the right one was.

Thing is, I almost always make the wrong choice. Then spend weeks, months, years paying for it. I chose the wrong major at college, went after two wrong relationships, and so on. I am very indecisive as I usually decide wrong. I am honest and blunt with people, which usually turn them off to me. And frankly I feel like I am on the precipice of either going out into the world and doing something great, or crawling into a hole and hiding. And I have stood at this fork in the road, waving my arm around trying to find out which choice won't come back to bite me.

I am under a lot stress. I don't have a boyfriend, don't have many friends, don't have a job (kinda want one kinda don't), and live with people who do not understand me because I do not think I can easily afford to live alone. (And am not sure I really want that either.)

I hate most jobs because they are boring and un-important. I actually developed a really bad nihilistic utilitarian new world order style mentality while working. (Why am I working at such a crappy job? Shouldn't machines be doing this crappy job so I don't have to? Wouldn't machines do this crappy job cheaper and better than me? I hate most of my co-workers. I hate most of the customers. Why do I have to work here and do this? I actually thought to myself that it would be better [not that I advocate murder] for 8 or 9 out of 10 people to be gone. That they were ignorant, inconsiderate, and that the world would be better of without them. That the smart people could then re-build the world without having to drag the ignorant ones with them like a ball and chain. Similar to the professor in the movie rope, I felt awful once I started researching into Alex Jones and stuff like that and realized that people in power feel the same way I felt and actually were planning to do what I recommended to myself. I used to muse at how easy it would be for someone like Hitler to get and power and kill them because they were so blind and willfully ignorant that they would trust anything you tell them.

That is one of the reasons I want to make sure the New World Order fails is because I am very afraid that people in power think like I did and actually plan to pull it off. (And that I'm in the same basket as the fools.) Honestly, and this is sad, I have to wonder if I would be against it if I would have been born into their families father than amongst the commoners. As much the time or more that I am saying to defend everyone, I am really saying defend myself. I don't care much for most people, and sadly might have stood by and let the New World Order kill them if I was born a baby bush or something to that level. I wasn't, so it's hard to say. But, I feel like I in this for survival/self preservation more than for the humble reasons of doing what's right.

Now I feel a motivation to wake up and save the ignorant people to save myself, even though I really don't like most of them that much and kinda might not be sticking my neck out if I were already saved.

At a deep and intimate level, I feel I have been born in the wrong class. I am smarter than most of the public, and I feel a sense of entitlement that is almost spiritual. I feel as if I should have been born an elite. And that somehow, maybe I felt idealistic when I chose to incarnate here or the stork flubbed up, and I ended up in this class.

I want to be out of this class, at the top, away from the scorn the elite have for this class. Because to be honest, while I don't agree with what they have planned for this class, I do agree with the scorn they have for it, more or less.

I think the elite should go get their own world and build the society they could build. And leave the commoners to fend for themselves. Instead, they enslave and plan to kill the commoners and take this world. That's what's wrong about it. These people are clever, they likely could build a better world if they took the effort they place on enslaving the commoners and place it into building. I feel I should have been born inside the elite to reform the elite, not inside the public to spend my whole life trying to not be killed by the elite.

[dusthead]

Why do so many people keep avowing that my salvation is to come from letting go and trusting? Is not the reason the world is in the mess it is now that it has trusted? The banksters work off the public ignorantly putting trust into them. As do the politicians. How is the force that feeds the beast supposed to set us free?

True, we could all live in a box. Shut ourselves away from all the frightening things that this horrible world spews out on a daily basis. It's awful isn't it? So much suffering...

Then again, we could actually START ENJOYING OURSELVES FOR A CHANGE! Good grief, this forum is full of doom and gloom! There are wonderful, beautiful, amazing things in life.

I am skeptical at the best of times. I am often told to 'wake up' by self proclaimed enlightened people. Well now it's my turn! I'm not the one sitting on my Jack crying into my hands and lamenting the eternal suffering of everything everywhere. I am smiling. I am enjoying my life. That is what life is for. WAKE UP! BEFORE LIFE PASSES YOU BY!

We have roughly 80 years on this planet (if we are lucky).

At the end of your life what would you rather say? -

I spent most of my time terrified by the powers that be, frightened by toothpaste, chemtrails, 9/11 and the moon. I didn't really trust that many people. I thought almost all of them were sheep.

OR...

It wasn't so bad. I slept with interesting attractive people, danced to great toons, travelled a lot and generally larked about with people I love. I behaved stupidly. It was a lot of fun.

[f13ticket]

True, we could all live in a box. Shut ourselves away from all the frightening things that this horrible world spews out on a daily basis. It's awful isn't it? So much suffering...

Then again, we could actually START ENJOYING OURSELVES FOR A CHANGE! Good grief, this forum is full of doom and gloom! There are wonderful, beautiful, amazing things in life.

I am skeptical at the best of times. I am often told to 'wake up' by self proclaimed enlightened people. Well now it's my turn! I'm not the one sitting on my Jack crying into my hands and lamenting the eternal suffering of everything everywhere. I am smiling. I am enjoying my life. That is what life is for. WAKE UP! BEFORE LIFE PASSES YOU BY!

We have roughly 80 years on this planet (if we are lucky).

At the end of your life what would you rather say? -

I spent most of my time terrified by the powers that be, frightened by toothpaste, chemtrails, 9/11 and the moon. I didn't really trust that many people. I thought almost all of them were sheep.

OR...

It wasn't so bad. I slept with interesting attractive people, danced to great toons, travelled a lot and generally larked about with people I love. I behaved stupidly. It was a lot of fun.

I sleep with lots of people, but it looses taste when they don't want a relationship. It becomes boring and mechanical. I have done, "stupid," things. They are fun, until I realize the people I am doing them with do not have my back and would run and leave me holding the proverbial bag if that's how they would save themselves. It is very bad as everything you say bad is true, aside from maybe the moon which I am undecided about until I read David's New Book.

"I spent most of my time terrified by the powers that be, frightened by toothpaste, chemtrails, 9/11 and the moon. I didn't really trust that many people. I thought almost all of them were sheep."

Why wouldn't you? It's the most logical thing to do!

"There are wonderful, beautiful, amazing things in life. "

Really? Where are they? They always seem for other people, and not for me. And whenever I step outside my comfort zone to try to get them, the universe trips be, kicks me three times in the crotch, then defecates on me. So excuse me for not feeling safe coming outside of me doom and gloom bubble to get my ass kicked by the mean universe.

[zero1]

"There are wonderful, beautiful, amazing things in life."

Really? Where are they? They always seem for other people, and not for me.

And whenever I step outside my comfort zone to try to get them, the universe trips me, kicks me three times in the crotch, then defecates on me. So excuse me for not feeling safe coming outside of me doom and gloom bubble to get my ass kicked by the mean universe.

>le sigh<

[margueritebee]

seriously...it makes me wonder. why would "God" let this go on for so long? and why would he tempt us beyond our control so much? sounds very sadistic if you ask me.

i'm not even like that with my child or pets lol !

how much longer does this insanity have to persist? do we honestly deserve this?

fuck it

Isn't it obvious? The god of the bible doesn't give a shit. IMHO the god of the bible is a reptilian.

[f13ticket]

>le sigh<

What's that supposed to mean?

[zero1]

What's that supposed to mean?

Just empathizing, f13. That's all.

[sekuru]

I am attaching a link to a comment that I made in a post in a different forum that you may find applicable.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?goto=newpost&t=109582

"Cosmic forces are continuously radiating to our earth from other planets and stars in the solar system...the mineral kingdom anchors pure cosmic forces and radiates these forces to all life on our planet and back to the cosmos in a perpetual natural cycling of energy..." Christa Faye Burka (The LifeCrystal) www.lifecrystal.com

The awakening of humankind can be a difficult process for some, as there are deep seated energetic shifts taking place within a beings consciousness. The process must be abided by and trusted in.

[venusinpisces]

This has got to be one of the most amusing thread titles on the forum. I imagine pouting. :p

[dusthead]

I sleep with lots of people, but it looses taste when they don't want a relationship. It becomes boring and mechanical. I have done, "stupid," things. They are fun, until I realize the people I am doing them with do not have my back and would run and leave me holding the proverbial bag if that's how they would save themselves. It is very bad as everything you say bad is true, aside from maybe the moon which I am undecided about until I read David's New Book.

"I spent most of my time terrified by the powers that be, frightened by toothpaste, chemtrails, 9/11 and the moon. I didn't really trust that many people. I thought almost all of them were sheep."

Why wouldn't you? It's the most logical thing to do!

"There are wonderful, beautiful, amazing things in life. "

Really? Where are they? They always seem for other people, and not for me. And whenever I step outside my comfort zone to try to get them, the universe trips be, kicks me three times in the crotch, then defecates on me. So excuse me for not feeling safe coming outside of me doom and gloom bubble to get my ass kicked by the mean universe.

I am guessing you like Radiohead and Morrissey quite a lot. Correct me if I'm wrong.

I do stand corrected on my assumption that it is illogical to be frightened of toothpaste and the amendation is duly noted in my forthcoming essay of connected theories (coming soon to a cinema near you).

There are indeed wonderful, beautiful, amazing things in life.

I can only assume you have never had children, visited the mountains of Snowdonia, stood on the beach and marvelled at the vastness of the Pacific ocean or been in a relationship with someone you love. I also wonder if you have ever been amazed by the ferocity of a lighting storm or closed your eyes and smiled at a memory of a time when you felt safe and secure as a child. I could also mention the sound of rain pattering on a window on a cold day, when you are inside a warm home. How about a song that makes you want to jump around like an idiot? How about the ability to create new art forms in any medium to express your emotions? I could mention hundreds of other things...

You appear to have been very hurt by people. That does not mean there is no-one that cares about you.

Enjoying life is not restricted to material posessions or social status. That is a myth.

[ignoranto_bliss]

Isn't it obvious? The god of the bible doesn't give a shit. IMHO the god of the bible is a reptilian.

The god in the bible is a fiction created to make you KNEELING SLAVE . Why people kneel in church ? Why ?

Kneeling = helplessness .

Help yourself, relay on yourself , that is gazillion times more powerful GOD than any motherfucker in Bible , koran , talmud or other fairytales books that idiot masses follow .

Makes me throw up .

[nectars]

The god in the bible is a fiction created to make you KNEELING SLAVE

Actually thats utter nonsense, yet saying that I'm not sure I've met anyone on here who can actually interpret it in the light it should be read. I dont actually believe it was meant for mass consumption but for initiates of the mysteries.

I'm not getting into a debate about it here since there are enough confused fools in the religious section that are happy to debate instead of "apply" it, but the "God" refered to in the bible is actually talking about you. No kneeling, no petitioning with prayer, no bowing to any man; Nada. If the symbolic and allegorical nature of it is read in the correct context its an internal dialogue between you and different aspects of your consciousness.

No one -and I do mean not one thing dies in the Bible other than wrong conceptions and ideas we have about what we think we are.

As someone once said "Change the way your looking at thing and the things you look at change".

[ignoranto_bliss]

Actually thats utter nonsense, yet saying that I'm not sure I've met anyone on here who can actually interpret it in the light it should be read. I dont actually believe it was meant for mass consumption but for initiates of the mysteries.

I'm not getting into a debate about it here since there are enough confused fools in the religious section that are happy to debate instead of "apply" it, but the "God" refered to in the bible is actually talking about you. No kneeling, no petitioning with prayer, no bowing to any man; Nada. If the symbolic and allegorical nature of it is read in the correct context its an internal dialogue between you and different aspects of your consciousness.

No one -and I do mean not one thing dies in the Bible other than wrong conceptions and ideas we have about what we think we are.

As someone once said "Change the way your looking at thing and the things you look at change".

Yeah i kind of said - relay on yourself , help yourself ... its you .

I agree with .


Its more like church want you to be kneeling slave .

[ufochick]

Unlike Science and the Occult, your suggestion is too without controll for my taste. Almost everyone keeps telling me to do this. When I try to meditate I get fidgety and bored. When I try to ask my self deep questions, it just reminds me how awful and lonely I feel. I start to become afraid of almost everything, which I can not do when my mind is busy with other things. How is this source of un-scientific boredom and pain supposed to be my salvation?

I am not trying to be rude, just honest. And thank you for taking time to reply to me.

You cannot have any control until you control YOU. Control of your thoughts and action leads to creating the life you want and the reality you want. If you don't have control of yourself then you will stay in the matrix programming and live the life that the media, schools, TV and society have trained you to live.

Allowing yourself to be distracted from anything deep is a choice. As my husband puts it, it's a choice to be shallow. Do no work, stay shallow and controlled. Do the work and get control of your own mind and consciousness.

What is there to be afraid of? feelings can't hurt you... so you notice your true state of mind when you go deep... that's ok. Once you have control you can change those thoughts and your life and reality.

[armoured_amazon]

seriously...it makes me wonder. why would "God" let this go on for so long? and why would he tempt us beyond our control so much? sounds very sadistic if you ask me.

i'm not even like that with my child or pets lol !

how much longer does this insanity have to persist? do we honestly deserve this?

fuck it

Imagine if God dealt with this crap quickly, and lots of people who hadn't had the opportunity to encounter him in life lose out, because a few of us want things hurried along. While I have similar feelings from time to time, it is selfish to think that way.

[nectars]

Its more like church want you to be kneeling slave .

Yehh that I'd agree on unfortunately :(

[ufochick]

Thing is, I almost always make the wrong choice. Then spend weeks, months, years paying for it. I chose the wrong major at college, went after two wrong relationships, and so on. I am very indecisive as I usually decide wrong. I am honest and blunt with people, which usually turn them off to me. And frankly I feel like I am on the precipice of either going out into the world and doing something great, or crawling into a hole and hiding. And I have stood at this fork in the road, waving my arm around trying to find out which choice won't come back to bite me.

I am under a lot stress. I don't have a boyfriend, don't have many friends, don't have a job (kinda want one kinda don't), and live with people who do not understand me because I do not think I can easily afford to live alone. (And am not sure I really want that either.)

I hate most jobs because they are boring and un-important. I actually developed a really bad nihilistic utilitarian new world order style mentality while working. (Why am I working at such a crappy job? Shouldn't machines be doing this crappy job so I don't have to? Wouldn't machines do this crappy job cheaper and better than me? I hate most of my co-workers. I hate most of the customers. Why do I have to work here and do this? I actually thought to myself that it would be better [not that I advocate murder] for 8 or 9 out of 10 people to be gone. That they were ignorant, inconsiderate, and that the world would be better of without them. That the smart people could then re-build the world without having to drag the ignorant ones with them like a ball and chain. Similar to the professor in the movie rope, I felt awful once I started researching into Alex Jones and stuff like that and realized that people in power feel the same way I felt and actually were planning to do what I recommended to myself. I used to muse at how easy it would be for someone like Hitler to get and power and kill them because they were so blind and willfully ignorant that they would trust anything you tell them.

That is one of the reasons I want to make sure the New World Order fails is because I am very afraid that people in power think like I did and actually plan to pull it off. (And that I'm in the same basket as the fools.) Honestly, and this is sad, I have to wonder if I would be against it if I would have been born into their families father than amongst the commoners. As much the time or more that I am saying to defend everyone, I am really saying defend myself. I don't care much for most people, and sadly might have stood by and let the New World Order kill them if I was born a baby bush or something to that level. I wasn't, so it's hard to say. But, I feel like I in this for survival/self preservation more than for the humble reasons of doing what's right.

Now I feel a motivation to wake up and save the ignorant people to save myself, even though I really don't like most of them that much and kinda might not be sticking my neck out if I were already saved.

At a deep and intimate level, I feel I have been born in the wrong class. I am smarter than most of the public, and I feel a sense of entitlement that is almost spiritual. I feel as if I should have been born an elite. And that somehow, maybe I felt idealistic when I chose to incarnate here or the stork flubbed up, and I ended up in this class.

I want to be out of this class, at the top, away from the scorn the elite have for this class. Because to be honest, while I don't agree with what they have planned for this class, I do agree with the scorn they have for it, more or less.

I think the elite should go get their own world and build the society they could build. And leave the commoners to fend for themselves. Instead, they enslave and plan to kill the commoners and take this world. That's what's wrong about it. These people are clever, they likely could build a better world if they took the effort they place on enslaving the commoners and place it into building. I feel I should have been born inside the elite to reform the elite, not inside the public to spend my whole life trying to not be killed by the elite.

Here is the truth. You are not smarter than everyone else or even a lot of people. You are seeing reflections of yourself in others, reflections you don't like. It's not the other people you don't like it's those aspects of yourself.

You have convinced yourself you are smarter than others but then you say you have made all the wrong choices. There are no wrong choices, only learning experiences. Take each thing you say you have screwed up and look for what positive things you learned. If you don't learn from those experiences you will simply repeat them until you do.

You seem to be stuck in the reptilian brain, it's rules social class, greediness needing to be better than others, competition etc. You have created your own life. If you don't like it change it.

Convincing yourself you are above others is a way to avoid being conscious. Start using compassion, try to see things from other people's point of view. Otherwise you will be stuck in a circle of negativity and I don't think you like where you are. We all have the occasional pity party for ourselves but living in that mode will get you nowhere but friendless and miserable.

Dana

[armoured_amazon]

Here is the truth. You are not smarter than everyone else or even a lot of people. You are seeing reflections of yourself in others, reflections you don't like. It's not the other people you don't like it's those aspects of yourself.

You have convinced yourself you are smarter than others but then you say you have made all the wrong choices. There are no wrong choices, only learning experiences. Take each thing you say you have screwed up and look for what positive things you learned. If you don't learn from those experiences you will simply repeat them until you do.

You seem to be stuck in the reptilian brain, it's rules social class, greediness needing to be better than others, competition etc. You have created your own life. If you don't like it change it.

Convincing yourself you are above others is a way to avoid being conscious. Start using compassion, try to see things from other people's point of view. Otherwise you will be stuck in a circle of negativity and I don't think you like where you are. We all have the occasional pity party for ourselves but living in that mode will get you nowhere but friendless and miserable.

Dana

I respectfully disagree. I don't think those who enslave, rape, plunder, and kill are reflections of ourselves, nor that they are as smart as the man/woman who wants to live in harmony with his/her environment. That's so new age-y to me to say everything we perceive is merely the negative aspects of ourselves. Tell that to the kids in war zones.

[f13ticket]

I am guessing you like Radiohead and Morrissey quite a lot. Correct me if I'm wrong.


Not sure I ever heard much from them.


I do stand corrected on my assumption that it is illogical to be frightened of toothpaste and the amendation is duly noted in my forthcoming essay of connected theories (coming soon to a cinema near you).


Toothpaste has evil fluoride in it. That is why I buy fluoride-free toothpaste and mouthwash. That is also why I only drink natural spring water (until I can afford at atmospheric water generator) and never NEVER tap.


I can only assume you have never had children, visited the mountains of Snowdonia, stood on the beach and marvelled at the vastness of the Pacific ocean or been in a relationship with someone you love.


Had children with who? The guys I try to date that want to have no commitment with me? Never saw mountains. Never seen the beach or the ocean. You see, unless you live there, those things cost money. My parents go on vacation without me. They leave me here at home to get drunk on vodka. They don't want me there and it cost more money to bring me. Relationship with someone I love? No one wants to stay with me! The last time I tried to get a boyfriend I dates him about a month and a half (my personal record) then he broke up with me. I spent about two years praying to demons to kill him because I don't kill people and it's wrong to. I trusted him, and thought it would work. I confided in him and he turned on me and left me. Now, after two years, he's back and still only wants me as a f*ck-buddy. You know, someone to be friends with and f*ck but never actually love, become emotionally invested in, or have any commitment with at all. I have tried other people, they are either already taken or only want sex like the current guy does. Relationships are like rat traps. There is a little piece of cheese that makes you feel good before the piece of metal slaps down on you and makes you suffer for days. That's what, "love," has always done to me. It is one of the cruelest and sickest jokes, "God," plays and it works on this awful thing called trust that people use to take advantage of me with.


I also wonder if you have ever been amazed by the ferocity of a lighting storm or closed your eyes and smiled at a memory of a time when you felt safe and secure as a child.


I used to be afraid that lightening would kill me. Now I see it as power I might be able to spiritually funnel to myself. Safe? Secure? Child? The only time I ever felt safe and secure was when I was playing Nintendo. I used to go upstairs and it would feel awful. It felt like something bad was watching me in my old house. There was a little dark hole in the floor, and I felt like it wanted to take me down there. I used to cover it up with stuff to keep me safe. When I played Nintendo, that feeling went away. Also, my Mom hated my Dad. She finally divorced him and we moved three states away from most of my family to start a life in this awful state.


I could also mention the sound of rain pattering on a window on a cold day, when you are inside a warm home.


I used to sit out on the swing and play Pokemon on my gameboy while with my grandma. Pokemon and Grandma are nice.


How about a song that makes you want to jump around like an idiot?


Wow... I guess I have one. For some reason numa numa makes me feel a little happy. Not kidding, it's a fun song. It reminds me of a guy that I liked and tried to make fall in love with me for six years before he left to me to kill innocent people in this pointless war. Ah, memories.


How about the ability to create new art forms in any medium to express your emotions?

I used to draw pictures of Freddy and Jason killing people as well as symbolic stick figures of myself as a dictator destroying nations as a way to make me feel good and survive High School. I would intermix occult images and people who oppose me burning on stakes. I also made clay works of Freddy and Jason. A Freddy hat holder and a Jason statue. He was so cute. See, art is fun!


There are indeed wonderful, beautiful, amazing things in life.


The only thing in the world that is beautiful is Nintendo. Sweet, sweet programs and plastic. That will never betray or hurt me. Aside from that, all else is a trap set out by the evil ones to break my heart and hurt me awful!

[dusthead]

Not sure I ever heard much from them.



Toothpaste has evil fluoride in it. That is why I buy fluoride-free toothpaste and mouthwash. That is also why I only drink natural spring water (until I can afford at atmospheric water generator) and never NEVER tap.



Had children with who? The guys I try to date that want to have no commitment with me? Never saw mountains. Never seen the beach or the ocean. You see, unless you live there, those things cost money. My parents go on vacation without me. They leave me here at home to get drunk on vodka. They don't want me there and it cost more money to bring me. Relationship with someone I love? No one wants to stay with me! The last time I tried to get a boyfriend I dates him about a month and a half (my personal record) then he broke up with me. I spent about two years praying to demons to kill him because I don't kill people and it's wrong to. I trusted him, and thought it would work. I confided in him and he turned on me and left me. Now, after two years, he's back and still only wants me as a f*ck-buddy. You know, someone to be friends with and f*ck but never actually love, become emotionally invested in, or have any commitment with at all. I have tried other people, they are either already taken or only want sex like the current guy does. Relationships are like rat traps. There is a little piece of cheese that makes you feel good before the piece of metal slaps down on you and makes you suffer for days. That's what, "love," has always done to me. It is one of the cruelest and sickest jokes, "God," plays and it works on this awful thing called trust that people use to take advantage of me with.



I used to be afraid that lightening would kill me. Now I see it as power I might be able to spiritually funnel to myself. Safe? Secure? Child? The only time I ever felt safe and secure was when I was playing Nintendo. I used to go upstairs and it would feel awful. It felt like something bad was watching me in my old house. There was a little dark hole in the floor, and I felt like it wanted to take me down there. I used to cover it up with stuff to keep me safe. When I played Nintendo, that feeling went away. Also, my Mom hated my Dad. She finally divorced him and we moved three states away from most of my family to start a life in this awful state.



I used to sit out on the swing and play Pokemon on my gameboy while with my grandma. Pokemon and Grandma are nice.



Wow... I guess I have one. For some reason numa numa makes me feel a little happy. Not kidding, it's a fun song. It reminds me of a guy that I liked and tried to make fall in love with me for six years before he left to me to kill innocent people in this pointless war. Ah, memories.



I used to draw pictures of Freddy and Jason killing people as well as symbolic stick figures of myself as a dictator destroying nations as a way to make me feel good and survive High School. I would intermix occult images and people who oppose me burning on stakes. I also made clay works of Freddy and Jason. A Freddy hat holder and a Jason statue. He was so cute. See, art is fun!



The only thing in the world that is beautiful is Nintendo. Sweet, sweet programs and plastic. That will never betray or hurt me. Aside from that, all else is a trap set out by the evil ones to break my heart and hurt me awful!

Shock & Surprise! I do believe there are some revelations of happiness in this post.

From what you are saying, all your unhappiness comes from you expecting past traumas to repeat themselves. Ironically, a mistrust of others will often create some of the situations you describe. You need to break the cycle.

[ignoranto_bliss]

Yehh that I'd agree on unfortunately :(

Dont go to church ... emm or dont kneel just look at the interior :)

You can say ' shut the fuk up im trying to take pictures ' to priest :D

[f13ticket]

Shock & Surprise! I do believe there are some revelations of happiness in this post.

From what you are saying, all your unhappiness comes from you expecting past traumas to repeat themselves. Ironically, a mistrust of others will often create some of the situations you describe. You need to break the cycle.

I think I need to play Nintendo to be happy. That's the revelation I got from that post.

Here is the truth. You are not smarter than everyone else or even a lot of people. You are seeing reflections of yourself in others, reflections you don't like. It's not the other people you don't like it's those aspects of yourself.

You have convinced yourself you are smarter than others but then you say you have made all the wrong choices. There are no wrong choices, only learning experiences. Take each thing you say you have screwed up and look for what positive things you learned. If you don't learn from those experiences you will simply repeat them until you do.

You seem to be stuck in the reptilian brain, it's rules social class, greediness needing to be better than others, competition etc. You have created your own life. If you don't like it change it.

Convincing yourself you are above others is a way to avoid being conscious. Start using compassion, try to see things from other people's point of view. Otherwise you will be stuck in a circle of negativity and I don't think you like where you are. We all have the occasional pity party for ourselves but living in that mode will get you nowhere but friendless and miserable.

Dana

I know things about politics, religion, Spirituality, and computers that most people would likely never dream of in a, "life time." They are too busy being taken advantage of.

May I ask in all due honesty, what perspective do these people have to see from? They are like dogs/cattle. They wake up, eat, pull their workload, poo, and eventually die. And the workload they contribute will soon if not already be able to be done cheaper and better by AI controlled machines. They are, from a new world order point of view, an inferior and obsolete organism. What valid point of view of life could I possibly see from their eyes? I have pity for them when they are not pissing me off. (When I don't have to work with/for them.) Is pity the same as compassion?

[ufochick]

I respectfully disagree. I don't think those who enslave, rape, plunder, and kill are reflections of ourselves, nor that they are as smart as the man/woman who wants to live in harmony with his/her environment. That's so new age-y to me to say everything we perceive is merely the negative aspects of ourselves. Tell that to the kids in war zones.

I was speaking specifically to the poster, responding to what she wrote that's why I quoted it all.

[ufochick]

I think I need to play Nintendo to be happy. That's the revelation I got from that post.



I know things about politics, religion, Spirituality, and computers that most people would likely never dream of in a, "life time." They are too busy being taken advantage of.

May I ask in all due honesty, what perspective do these people have to see from? They are like dogs/cattle. They wake up, eat, pull their workload, poo, and eventually die. And the workload they contribute will soon if not already be able to be done cheaper and better by AI controlled machines. They are, from a new world order point of view, an inferior and obsolete organism. What valid point of view of life could I possibly see from their eyes? I have pity for them when they are not pissing me off. (When I don't have to work with/for them.) Is pity the same as compassion?

Until YOU change you will stay miserable. I can't imagine praying for demons to kill someone I dated for a month and a half. That sounds like a 10 year old thing. You will attract to you others who have the same energy as you do. So you will attract hatefully people who sit around and play video games and pray to demons. I guess that's what you want.... ask yourself why do my parents not want me around? why do I have no friends? no love? because in order for these things to happen you must CARE about other people and be kind and want other people to be happy... you must GIVE to others and care about other people..

[f13ticket]

Until YOU change you will stay miserable. I can't imagine praying for demons to kill someone I dated for a month and a half. That sounds like a 10 year old thing. You will attract to you others who have the same energy as you do. So you will attract hatefully people who sit around and play video games and pray to demons. I guess that's what you want.... ask yourself why do my parents not want me around? why do I have no friends? no love? because in order for these things to happen you must CARE about other people and be kind and want other people to be happy... you must GIVE to others and care about other people..

One of my best friends for years was a guy who loved video games and typically disliked a lot of the evil in this world. I loved being around him. He was awesome! I miss him though. He was nicer when he stayed at home, talking with me, and playing games. I didn't like it when he joined the military and left.

[nectars]

That's so new age-y to me to say everything we perceive is merely the negative aspects of ourselves.

They're only aspects of ourselves at a certain stage. Relatively they are who they are while mirroring symboliclly(and more often direct) representations -ormore accurately, reflections of who we are. If you find yourself in any given situation, whoever your in poroximity of will show you your own conceptions of them as the certain social groups/types/stereotypes etc. with certain behavioral traits and demeanours etc. that you've accepted as true of certain people. This even goes to the workings of reality, truth and what existence means to you.

The depth and working of the mind and the spirit are sublime to the extreme yet beautifully simple in operation. This is something we tend to overcomplicate as a type of artificial purpose that feeds the the ego, and yet a paradox in attempting to explain.

This doesnt mean that their only "that", or "that" all the time. It does mean that both of your effects on local conditions at that time show up as consequences in relation to each other and the situation as your perceptions of yourself and everything you believe about "what you are" close in on and reveals itself. Often this is done through contrast.

Its because your there that what is happening is happening yet your only responsible for whats within you drawing yourself and that situation towards each other. Individually, each and every other person is also self-responsible by having "that" within them, which leads them to them and being present. This doesn't mean either that your responsible for their feelings, reactions, actions etc. That's still their thing and what they have to deal with to remove the situation from repeating itself in their life.

You can never work on anyone on any other level than within. Every percieved external action is initiated from within either through the spirit or the mind.

[1964]

seriously...it makes me wonder. why would "God" let this go on for so long? and why would he tempt us beyond our control so much? sounds very sadistic if you ask me.

i'm not even like that with my child or pets lol !

how much longer does this insanity have to persist? do we honestly deserve this?

fuck it

It's curious how you blame God for the temptation you feel in your own body, in your flesh. God doesn't tempt anyone - it's the sin that lives in you that causes you to be tempted. And which Christ sets a person free from.

How much longer is this going to go on? Until the full number of God's children have returned to Him. When the final one returns, that'll be it, the end. Could happen any day. The signs are coming faster and faster, as Christ prophesied.

Romans 11:25
I do not want you to be ignorant of this mystery, brothers, so that you may not be conceited: Israel has experienced a hardening in part until the full number of the Gentiles has come in.

[1964]

Why do so many people keep avowing that my salvation is to come from letting go and trusting? Is not the reason the world is in the mess it is now that it has trusted? The banksters work off the public ignorantly putting trust into them. As do the politicians. How is the force that feeds the beast supposed to set us free?

Nowhere, in all of Scripture, does Jesus Christ tell His people they should trust this world. In fact, it's quite the opposite. Christ warns His people to remain on their guards at all times in this world, and to guard even their hearts. Every day, the world proves that it can't be trusted. Why would God, Who loves His children, tell them they should trust in the world? It's the world that wants you to trust the world, when every single day, the world proves it can't be trusted. And that includes trying to deceive you through false gospels, which is the Word of God perverted in such a way as to serve the one who perverts it.

[f13ticket]

Hehehe. :)

[arch]

Until YOU change you will stay miserable. I can't imagine praying for demons to kill someone I dated for a month and a half. That sounds like a 10 year old thing. You will attract to you others who have the same energy as you do. So you will attract hatefully people who sit around and play video games and pray to demons. I guess that's what you want.... ask yourself why do my parents not want me around? why do I have no friends? no love? because in order for these things to happen you must CARE about other people and be kind and want other people to be happy... you must GIVE to others and care about other people..
Do know that the greatest caring and giving individuals on this planet are also the most monstrous and evil beings. That should tell you something about the nature of caring and giving. They are hypocritical means of controlling individuals, keeping them dependent. I'm not suggesting these are necessarily 'bad' attitudes, they are just very powerful means to teach other individuals some hard lessons about their submission to the giving by others (dependency)...

The more you give, the better you feel. Why? Because the force rewards individuals, gives them more energy, it charges them, when it can use these individuals to keep others in order.