tinmenace
14-10-2007, 09:03 PM
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/armeniangenocide.jpg
So, at long last the US government has acknowledged this tragedy as "genocide".
About fucking time, but still not good enough!
A US congressional committee has approved a bill recognising as genocide the mass killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turks in 1915-1923.
The move has infuriated Turkey and delighted Armenians.
The White House said it was very disappointed by the non-binding vote.
Why put "genocide" in inverted commas?
Whether or not the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Armenians during World War I amounted to genocide is a matter for heated debate. Many Western historians believe it falls into the category of genocide. Some countries have declared that a genocide took place, but others have resisted calls to do so.
What happened?
During World War I, as the Ottoman Turkish empire fought Russian forces, some of the Armenian minority in eastern Anatolia sided with the Russians.
Turkey took reprisals. But historians argue over the extent to which Turkish policy towards Armenians during that period was motivated by wartime conditions. On 24 April 1915 Turkey rounded up and killed hundreds of Armenian community leaders.
In May 1915, the Armenian minority, two or three million strong, was forcefully deported and marched from the Anatolian borders towards Syria and Mesopotamia (now Iraq). Many died en route and numerous eyewitnesses reported massacres by Turkish forces. Atrocities against Armenians continued until the Ottoman empire collapsed after the war.
What do Armenians say?
Armenians say 1.5 million of their people were killed during World War I, either through systematic massacres or through starvation.
They allege that a deliberate genocide was carried out by the Ottoman Turkish empire.
What does Turkey say?
It says there was no genocide.
It acknowledges that many Armenians died, but says many Turks died too, and that massacres were committed on both sides as a result of inter-ethnic violence and the wider world war. Turkey estimates the number of Armenian dead to be 300,000.
What is genocide?
Article Two of the UN Convention on Genocide of December 1948 describes genocide as carrying out acts intended "to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group".
What do others say?
Argentina, Belgium, Canada, France, Italy, Russia and Uruguay are among more than 20 countries which have formally recognised genocide against the Armenians.
The UK, US and Israel are among those that use different terminology. :rolleyes:
Why does the row continue?
Armenians are one of the world's most dispersed peoples. While in Armenia, Genocide Memorial Day is commemorated across the country, it is the diaspora that has lobbied for recognition from the outside world. The killings are regarded as the seminal event of modern Armenian history, and one that binds the diaspora together.
In Turkey, the penal code makes calling "for the recognition of the Armenian genocide" illegal. Writers and translators have been prosecuted for attempting to stimulate debate on the subject.
Turkey has condemned countries that recognise the Armenian genocide, and was furious when the French parliament passed a bill in 2006 outlawing denial of it. Turkey suspended military ties with France in retaliation.
The European Union has said that Turkish acceptance of the Armenian genocide is not a condition for Turkey's entry into the bloc.
BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6045182.stm)
What is the Armenian Genocide?
The atrocities committed against the Armenian people of the Ottoman Empire during W.W.I are called the Armenian Genocide. Genocide is the organized killing of a people for the express purpose of putting an end to their collective existence. Because of its scope, genocide requires central planning and a machinery to implement it.
This makes genocide the quintessential state crime as only a government has the resources to carry out such a scheme of destruction. The Armenian Genocide was centrally planned and administered by the Turkish government against the entire Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire. It was carried out during W.W.I between the years 1915 and 1918.
The Armenian people was subjected to deportation, expropriation, abduction, torture, massacre, and starvation. The great bulk of the Armenian population was forcibly removed from Armenia and Anatolia to Syria, where the vast majority was sent into the desert to die of thirst and hunger.
Large numbers of Armenians were methodically massacred throughout the Ottoman Empire. Women and children were abducted and horribly abused. The entire wealth of the Armenian people was expropriated. After only a little more than a year of calm at the end of W.W.I, the atrocities were renewed between 1920 and 1923, and the remaining Armenians were subjected to further massacres and expulsions.
In 1915, thirty-three years before UN Genocide Convention was adopted, the Armenian Genocide was condemned by the international community as a crime against humanity.
Armenian-Genocide.org (http://www.armenian-genocide.org/genocidefaq.html)
Unbelievable how people have to bicker POLITICS when deciding if something is wrong or not. Having a policy of eliminating certain ethnicities is wrong. I don't care how you look at it. It's wrong!
These are photos of the Armenian Genocide Memorial:
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/yerevanarmenianmemorial.jpg
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/armenianmemorial.jpg
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/armenian.jpg
A burning torch. What a surprise!
Close up of some of the characters in the above photo:
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/armenian4.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/armenian3.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/armenian2.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/armenian1.jpg
So, at long last the US government has acknowledged this tragedy as "genocide".
About fucking time, but still not good enough!
A US congressional committee has approved a bill recognising as genocide the mass killings of Armenians by Ottoman Turks in 1915-1923.
The move has infuriated Turkey and delighted Armenians.
The White House said it was very disappointed by the non-binding vote.
Why put "genocide" in inverted commas?
Whether or not the deaths of hundreds of thousands of Armenians during World War I amounted to genocide is a matter for heated debate. Many Western historians believe it falls into the category of genocide. Some countries have declared that a genocide took place, but others have resisted calls to do so.
What happened?
During World War I, as the Ottoman Turkish empire fought Russian forces, some of the Armenian minority in eastern Anatolia sided with the Russians.
Turkey took reprisals. But historians argue over the extent to which Turkish policy towards Armenians during that period was motivated by wartime conditions. On 24 April 1915 Turkey rounded up and killed hundreds of Armenian community leaders.
In May 1915, the Armenian minority, two or three million strong, was forcefully deported and marched from the Anatolian borders towards Syria and Mesopotamia (now Iraq). Many died en route and numerous eyewitnesses reported massacres by Turkish forces. Atrocities against Armenians continued until the Ottoman empire collapsed after the war.
What do Armenians say?
Armenians say 1.5 million of their people were killed during World War I, either through systematic massacres or through starvation.
They allege that a deliberate genocide was carried out by the Ottoman Turkish empire.
What does Turkey say?
It says there was no genocide.
It acknowledges that many Armenians died, but says many Turks died too, and that massacres were committed on both sides as a result of inter-ethnic violence and the wider world war. Turkey estimates the number of Armenian dead to be 300,000.
What is genocide?
Article Two of the UN Convention on Genocide of December 1948 describes genocide as carrying out acts intended "to destroy, in whole or in part, a national, ethnic, racial or religious group".
What do others say?
Argentina, Belgium, Canada, France, Italy, Russia and Uruguay are among more than 20 countries which have formally recognised genocide against the Armenians.
The UK, US and Israel are among those that use different terminology. :rolleyes:
Why does the row continue?
Armenians are one of the world's most dispersed peoples. While in Armenia, Genocide Memorial Day is commemorated across the country, it is the diaspora that has lobbied for recognition from the outside world. The killings are regarded as the seminal event of modern Armenian history, and one that binds the diaspora together.
In Turkey, the penal code makes calling "for the recognition of the Armenian genocide" illegal. Writers and translators have been prosecuted for attempting to stimulate debate on the subject.
Turkey has condemned countries that recognise the Armenian genocide, and was furious when the French parliament passed a bill in 2006 outlawing denial of it. Turkey suspended military ties with France in retaliation.
The European Union has said that Turkish acceptance of the Armenian genocide is not a condition for Turkey's entry into the bloc.
BBC (http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/europe/6045182.stm)
What is the Armenian Genocide?
The atrocities committed against the Armenian people of the Ottoman Empire during W.W.I are called the Armenian Genocide. Genocide is the organized killing of a people for the express purpose of putting an end to their collective existence. Because of its scope, genocide requires central planning and a machinery to implement it.
This makes genocide the quintessential state crime as only a government has the resources to carry out such a scheme of destruction. The Armenian Genocide was centrally planned and administered by the Turkish government against the entire Armenian population of the Ottoman Empire. It was carried out during W.W.I between the years 1915 and 1918.
The Armenian people was subjected to deportation, expropriation, abduction, torture, massacre, and starvation. The great bulk of the Armenian population was forcibly removed from Armenia and Anatolia to Syria, where the vast majority was sent into the desert to die of thirst and hunger.
Large numbers of Armenians were methodically massacred throughout the Ottoman Empire. Women and children were abducted and horribly abused. The entire wealth of the Armenian people was expropriated. After only a little more than a year of calm at the end of W.W.I, the atrocities were renewed between 1920 and 1923, and the remaining Armenians were subjected to further massacres and expulsions.
In 1915, thirty-three years before UN Genocide Convention was adopted, the Armenian Genocide was condemned by the international community as a crime against humanity.
Armenian-Genocide.org (http://www.armenian-genocide.org/genocidefaq.html)
Unbelievable how people have to bicker POLITICS when deciding if something is wrong or not. Having a policy of eliminating certain ethnicities is wrong. I don't care how you look at it. It's wrong!
These are photos of the Armenian Genocide Memorial:
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/yerevanarmenianmemorial.jpg
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/armenianmemorial.jpg
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/armenian.jpg
A burning torch. What a surprise!
Close up of some of the characters in the above photo:
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/armenian4.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/armenian3.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/armenian2.jpg http://www.globalfailure.com/images/armenian1.jpg