Signs of programming- links or list ideas?

[sxmrx]

Hi guys,
Thanks in advance for your help.

I'm wondering aside from celebrities/symbolism/mass mind control, what are the signs of someone who may have been programmed in the 1980's/1990's who has since appeared to have woken up?

Would these count?

Amnesia over certain events whilst travelling the world?

Seeming to be in the right place at the right time in meeting elite and famous folks, despite having no discernable reason for being there?

Jesuit School retreats?

History of (non ritual) rape &sexual abuse?

Diagnostics of depression, ptsd, anxiety?


I'd like input on any other obvious symptoms for researching the journey back from deprogramming in recent years.

Is it possible to deprogram oneself?

Also could someone explain all the different types of programming for me i'e Delta, Kitten, etc

[trevvytrev23]

Hi guys,
Thanks in advance for your help.

I'm wondering aside from celebrities/symbolism/mass mind control, what are the signs of someone who may have been programmed in the 1980's/1990's who has since appeared to have woken up?

Would these count?

Amnesia over certain events whilst travelling the world?

Seeming to be in the right place at the right time in meeting elite and famous folks, despite having no discernable reason for being there?

Jesuit School retreats?

History of (non ritual) rape &sexual abuse?

Diagnostics of depression, ptsd, anxiety?


I'd like input on any other obvious symptoms for researching the journey back from deprogramming in recent years.

Is it possible to deprogram oneself?

Also could someone explain all the different types of programming for me i'e Delta, Kitten, etc

Signs of programming breaking down are vast, look at some of Britney Spears' behaviour in the last couple of years!

I'm in no way well-versed enough to answer your questions, Kitten programming would be a good one to start with - as it's not too mind-bending to get your head around and there's a wealth of information out there.

Have you read any of Ben's blogs? If you have already, apologies, here is a link to his blog:

http://pseudoccultmedia.blogspot.com/

Check out his earlier posts, too.

[sxmrx]

Thanks Trev, whats Bens handle on here?

I'm interested in programming in regular people, as opposed to celebrities/hollywood etc, I've found Venusinpisces blog to be a great source material, I'm Waiting for Swerdlows "13 cubed" book to arrive, but if anyone knows of some sort of list of the types of programming and their particular aims, that would be incredible.

[greydove]

Read Stewart Swerdlow's 13 Cubed. I know many don't trust him but if you can get past his 'deprogramming' suggestions, and just read the stories, you will find valid, accurate info from actual mk people.

13 Cubed is a collection of personal accounts of monarch victims of different ages/generations.

[sxmrx]

Great stuff, thanks again! Keep it coming guys!!!

[supertzar]

Hi guys,
Thanks in advance for your help.

I'm wondering aside from celebrities/symbolism/mass mind control, what are the signs of someone who may have been programmed in the 1980's/1990's who has since appeared to have woken up?

Would these count?

Amnesia over certain events whilst travelling the world?

Seeming to be in the right place at the right time in meeting elite and famous folks, despite having no discernable reason for being there?

Jesuit School retreats?

History of (non ritual) rape &sexual abuse?

Diagnostics of depression, ptsd, anxiety?


I'd like input on any other obvious symptoms for researching the journey back from deprogramming in recent years.

Is it possible to deprogram oneself?

Also could someone explain all the different types of programming for me i'e Delta, Kitten, etc

Interesting question. Most of the people I know with an amnesiac multiple personality system were programmed more in the late 60's to mid 80's. Once I knew one well I became able to spot others - often by sight alone. I was meeting people and thinking "ritual abuse survivor" and soon getting my suspicions confirmed. In females there is often a certain wide-eyed look bordering on completely bugged out.

[nelletuorg7]

Thanks Trev, whats Bens handle on here?

I'm interested in programming in regular people, as opposed to celebrities/hollywood etc, I've found Venusinpisces blog to be a great source material, I'm Waiting for Swerdlows "13 cubed" book to arrive, but if anyone knows of some sort of list of the types of programming and their particular aims, that would be incredible.

Hi. I just know that illuminati folk congregate together in the same places. Like military bases or near them. Many rock stars of the 60's that were supposedly mk'ers were children of military personel. According to Brice Taylor programming was done at military bases. Check out anything you can find about Laurel Canyon, in the 60's. A wealth of info there. I don't have a link but you could probably find it on You tube. :o

[the perfect one]

saying things like"I bet people taste like bacon" with a straight face -a VERY serious straight face.

odd facial expressions while saying odd things that seem out of nature for that person. Same facial expression I seen on another mind control victim. I really believe that person is a handler too.

When a victim says "I'm a big boy now and I can make up my own mind". Yet the handlers around him are still in control . When the victim says this ,he is in an almost child like voice.

[the perfect one]

I'm sure most of us have seen this by now, but I thought it would be nice to list it again.

Levels of MONARCH Programming [11]

ALPHA. Regarded as "general" or regular programming within the base control personality; characterized by extremely pronounced memory retention, along with substantially increased physical strength and visual acuity. Alpha programming is accomplished through deliberately subdividing the victims personality which, in essence, causes a left brain-right brain division, allowing for a programmed union of L and R through neuron pathway stimulation.

BETA. Referred to as "sexual" programming. This programming eliminates all learned moral convictions and stimulates the primitive sexual instinct, devoid of inhibitions. "Cat" alters may come out at this level.

DELTA. This is known as "killer" programming, originally developed for training special agents or elite soldiers (i.e. Delta Force, First Earth Battalion, Mossad, etc.) in covert operations. Optimal adrenal output and controlled aggression is evident. Subjects are devoid of fear; very systematic in carrying out their assignment. Self-destruct or suicide instructions are layered in at this level.

THETA considered to the "psychic" programming. Bloodliners (those coming from multi-generational Satanic families) were determined to exhibit a greater propensity for having telepathic abilities than did non-bloodliners. Due to its evident limitations, however, various forms of electronic mind control systems were developed and introduced, namely, bio-medical human telemetry devices (brain implants), directed-energy lasers using microwaves and/or electromagnetics. It is reported these are used in conjunction with highly-advanced computers and sophisticated satellite tracking systems.

OMEGA. A "self-destruct" form of programming, also known as "Code Green." The corresponding behaviors include suicidal tendencies and/or self-mutilation. This program is generally activated when the victim/survivor begins therapy or interrogation and too much memory is being recovered.

GAMMA. Another form of system protection is through "deception" programming, which elicits misinformation and misdirection. This level is intertwined with demonology and tends to regenerate itself at a later time if inappropriately deactivated.

[wakeuptime]

Hi. I just know that illuminati folk congregate together in the same places. Like military bases or near them. Many rock stars of the 60's that were supposedly mk'ers were children of military personel. According to Brice Taylor programming was done at military bases. Check out anything you can find about Laurel Canyon, in the 60's. A wealth of info there. I don't have a link but you could probably find it on You tube. :o

Wow Nelle, you're much more informed and articulate here than on the Stepford thread! I thought maybe English wasn't your first language when you responded to me there. ;)

Yes, I believe military bases are deeply involved in this. So many musicians and stars have military dads. Jim Morrison --- who'd a thunk it?

[sxmrx]

Thanks so much for all the info guys- A lot of which i have, it's proving difficult to find anyone having been prgrammed in the late 70's upwards.

I get what you mean about the women having that blank wide eyed look!

If there are people out there, regular folks experiencing programming, are there any other pointers to look out for? Types of prime candidate?

[the perfect one]

Thanks so much for all the info guys- A lot of which i have, it's proving difficult to find anyone having been prgrammed in the late 70's upwards.

I get what you mean about the women having that blank wide eyed look!

If there are people out there, regular folks experiencing programming, are there any other pointers to look out for? Types of prime candidate?

I have several siblings that were programmed in the late 70's into at least 1980. I really think the programming is on going.

[whiteknightd]

Hi guys,
Thanks in advance for your help.

I'm wondering aside from celebrities/symbolism/mass mind control, what are the signs of someone who may have been programmed in the 1980's/1990's who has since appeared to have woken up?

Would these count?

Amnesia over certain events whilst travelling the world?

Seeming to be in the right place at the right time in meeting elite and famous folks, despite having no discernable reason for being there?

Jesuit School retreats?

History of (non ritual) rape &sexual abuse?

Diagnostics of depression, ptsd, anxiety?


I'd like input on any other obvious symptoms for researching the journey back from deprogramming in recent years.

Is it possible to deprogram oneself?

Also could someone explain all the different types of programming for me i'e Delta, Kitten, etc

IMO it's very likely that you're a victim. the question is why? at least that is for me.

in my case, i wonder if i am a victim myself. i seem to be in contact with people in high places sometimes like you said. i have memories from pre-school and remember being deathly afraid of the school and hating it. it was located in a desert city in arizona that is known for military stuff.

i remember doing strange things there and behavior that wouldn't be considered normal for a kid. i don't think kids just make up this type of behavior but i could be wrong.

if i was a victim of mind control, and broke my programming i wonder why the hell i would have been chosen in the first place.

i did have a dream recently that had broken mirrors in it and i know that this is symbolic because jimi hendrix and kurt cobain are some famous artists who referenced these in their lyrics. in fact, jimi hendrix broke his mind control and then spoke of it; even predicted his own death.

[whiteknightd]

Thanks so much for all the info guys- A lot of which i have, it's proving difficult to find anyone having been prgrammed in the late 70's upwards.

I get what you mean about the women having that blank wide eyed look!

If there are people out there, regular folks experiencing programming, are there any other pointers to look out for? Types of prime candidate?

if that is you in the avatar i would say that you can be considered a prime candidate since you're a very attractive lady. from what i've researched, candidates are chosen for various reasons based on different functions. some are just chosen merely because they are more receptive to hypnosis or their family bloodline is traced, etc.

[venusinpisces]

Hi guys,
Thanks in advance for your help.

I'm wondering aside from celebrities/symbolism/mass mind control, what are the signs of someone who may have been programmed in the 1980's/1990's who has since appeared to have woken up?

Would these count?


History of (non ritual) rape &sexual abuse?

Diagnostics of depression, ptsd, anxiety?
As far as these last two criteria, given that both mental health diagnoses
and sexual abuse are endemic within our society, I would say that one would need a lot more information than that in order to discern whether or not a person has been programmed. It is getting to the point where those experiences are more common than not, unfortunately.

One source that nobody on this thread has mentioned is Carissa Conti's book, Chasing Phantoms, which is a concise and very well researched account of military programming that is probably more representative of what the average MKed person has had to contend with than, say, Brice Taylor or Cathy O'Brian's accounts. Their books are very informative as well, although they are not the typical MK experience by any means.
Here is a like to Chasing Phantoms:
http://in2worlds.net/abductions2
Personally, I can do without some of the misanthropy and fatalism on her site, but there is still a lot of good info here if one practices discernment.


Is it possible to deprogram oneself?


Well, it sure sounds like a better idea than putting all your trust in some psychotic "deprogrammer" aka cult leader. :rolleyes: Ultimately, your spiritual destiny is only yours to direct, although others will try to convince you of the opposite at every step along the way. And make no mistake about it: trauma based mind control is essentially a way to prevent psychically gifted people from realizing the potential of their higher selves, so it is spiritual at its core.

[venusinpisces]

Thanks so much for all the info guys- A lot of which i have, it's proving difficult to find anyone having been prgrammed in the late 70's upwards.


That is definitely not true. But it does seem like the majority of people who are talking about it, on the internet at least, are mid thirties and up. I have wondered about this myself. My guess is that the programming techniques have become more sophisticated as time goes on, rendering the process of detection to be a lot more challenging.

[sxmrx]

Venus could you point me to some links, or modern day testimony?

Thanls again for posting all.

[brokenshadow]

I would say a programmed person would have symptoms such as lost time and very poor memory of childhood events. They would have strong ties to the establishment but no links to it themselves such as family in military service but not them. There would be instances of the matter of their birth not making much sense, ie mother became pregnant in absence of father, pregnant after menopause, damaged limbs from surgical procedures before birth, missing twins, not adhering to normal pregnancy span. Evidence of odd behavior throughout life, isolation, depression. Any sign of mental disequilibrium which could have been used or induced or shows signs of things interrupting normal development. Unusual skills or unlearned skills, ability to do things well without training, especially things which point to why they may be useful, unusual mental faculties either highly intelligent or the opposite, rarely just normal in any way. Behavioral switches for no reason, headaches, nausea, dizziness and other signs of general ill health with no apparent cause.
Multiple signs of odd events happening around them or actions that cannot be recalled or explained. Often drawn to others unconsciously although most are so damaged as to make no sense for themselves and recovery is highly unlikely.
If programming "breaks" then the alters can leak into one another giving strongly defined mood swings and erratic behavior the victim cannot explain. Programmed abilities may be available to the prime mind meaning they would suddenly and without understanding how have abilities, knowledge, compulsions or drives they cannot explain.
Notice "handlers" around them giving information that simply does not add up. Frequently appear paranoid.
Of course this is just an opinion.

[interesting show]

They're famous:D no, that really is a good sign. The more famous, the more likely and the more programmed they are, though it's probably not hard to spot those.

They are also politicians, as well as famous artists etc. An artist's art may give clues into that person's programming and the type of programming, as well as a musician's music etc.