Barbara Marciniak would agree with David!

[raven_patronus]

I have found information that supports Icke's theory from another writer.

Barbara Marciniak has written several books and is a channeler for the Pleiadian race of beings. I know about half of you wouldn't believe that and some of you might consider....

Anyway in her book, 'Earth: Pleidians Keys to the Living Library' I came across something very similar to what is expounded in Icke's latest, 'Human Race Get off Your Knees The Lion Sleeps No More.'

Because there is such a parallel I really think Icke might be exactly right.

In Marciniak's book on page 202:

"The moon is a satellite that was constructed. It was built and anchored outside Earth's atmosphere as a mediating and monitoring device, a supercomputer or eye in the sky. It affects all life forms on this planet, beyond what you can currently grasp. In your history there are references to two moons around earth...."

(In reference to the two moons I give a nod to whoever started another thread....Someone on this forum mentioned they had a dream of two moons. You may have been right and had a psychic dream!)

"Earth must be owned by those who dwell here; however it is not. You have outside gods, creator energies who prevent you as a species, from having free rein with your kundalini. The influence of the moon, as a main satellite computers affects all of earth.....

"There have been many, many battles over the moon. Parts of the moon are owned, and parts are utilized. There is a plan to gradually insert different programs of influence on earth when the moon becomes occupied by forces that would assist you in your growth, rather than limit you. The moons programs as for eons have been of great limitation toward human beings. The tales about the full moon and insanity, madness and heightened bleeding are all quite true. There are repetitive cycles that the moon creates to which you respond. You know that television influences you to a great degree. The moon is the same way. You simply have not been able to tune into the moon's programs and learn how to turn them off. You cannot. Others must turn the moon off for you or reprogram the moon, which is taking place right now.

"At this time, the moon is quite controlled. Extraterrestrials and others have many bases on the moon, and those from Earth have little influence when it comes down to it."

It all very similar to Icke's theory isn't it? And this was channeled and written back in 1994-1995!!! I suggest reading some of Barbara Marciniak's books like the excerpt from "earth" above or her other books.

What do you think? It sounds a lot like a matrix like thing where the moon is controlling and influencing us more than we think! It is astonishing that Icke has also proclaimed that they're are ET bases on the moon!

[gaias child]

Well spotted. I did not know what to think about the moon theory but I really like the Barbara Marciniak books, they resonate with me on a deep level. I read them a few years ago. They were written in the early 90s although the last one was written only a few years ago.

[raven_patronus]

Well spotted. I did not know what to think about the moon theory but I really like the Barbara Marciniak books, they resonate with me on a deep level. I read them a few years ago. They were written in the early 90s although the last one was written only a few years ago.

Yes! It just so happens that I was reading right when David announced his latest book a couple of months ago! :)

Marciniak also talked about the sun through her channelings. The beings claim that super-advanced intelligent beings live in the sun. I think they are microcosmic in proportion to us though.

[zyphus]

Barbara Marciniak is in bed with controlled conman Drunvalo Melchizedek.

Also, how far back can you research the Pleiadian's?

[mishima]

I have read the book recently, even though it is remarkable I generally do not trust channeled information. if somebody like david icke comes up with a theory and says: "here are my clues do your own research" it is completly different than saying "some higher force told me so no need for evidence". i do not say she is wrong, I just don't trust it (told me my friend from planet nibiru).

[paulside]

An excerpt from the audio book "Earth: Pleiadian Keys to the Living Library" - by Barbara Marciniak.


YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[princessofwands]

I'm reading Bringers of the Dawn right now. It's very good. It lays out the whole reptilian theory, the fact that we are vibrationally suppressed, that we are a food source for trans-dimensional entities, that there are stargates in the middle east and elsewhere, etc. And written in 1992 before (as far as I know) anyone else had spoken of our reptilian masters. Really fascinating. Above all it keeps repeating that we are creator-gods ourselves, altho our powers have not been developed but they CAN BE.

Thanks for the moon info from Earth, I will listen to that audio....

:D

[gaias child]

Barbara Marciniak is in bed with controlled conman Drunvalo Melchizedek.

Also, how far back can you research the Pleiadian's?

What do you mean she is connected with Drunvelo Melchizedek do you have any other information?

[soul_traveller]

I always felt that Drunvalo was a deception got bad vibes - I'm now aware that he works with groups that are close to the illuminati - he is all new age and programmed. I feel his FOL and the merkabah is major deception. Lets face it anyone whom changes their name to Melchizedek is suspect.

Yes always as good point - the pleiadians is new age programming. Has anyone bothered to say where all the space brother info is coming from?

I always thought Marciniak's work was interesting on a deeper level and connected with some of the information and not really new age or government mind control experiments. Like most things, I think its a mixture of truths and non-truths but does have some very profound and good insights. There is info in there that is now being backup by researchers now.

Can you eleborate further on Marciniak and Drunvalo connections?

Thanks!

Barbara Marciniak is in bed with controlled conman Drunvalo Melchizedek.

Also, how far back can you research the Pleiadian's?

[caleb_11]

good info

[smoothie]

Barbara Marciniak is in bed with controlled conman Drunvalo Melchizedek.

Also, how far back can you research the Pleiadian's?

Are you just saying this without any facts? Anyone can do this...
I trust Drunvalo, and how is he a con man?

[iceblue]

Here is Barbara's "Bringers of the Dawn" in audio format.

Bringers of the Dawn: Teachings from the Pleiadians Pt. 1 - YouTube

Also, for those who like to read, you can find the book in PDF on torrent and similar websites.

She is mentioning the same thing as David Icke is. Here is an interesting excerpt:

"These new creator gods who were the new owners were also master geneticists. They understood how to create life, and they wanted this territory for their own reasons. Territories are created and held by certain energies for many reasons, one of which is that there is consciousness within all things.

Consciousness communicates continuously. Consciousness vibrates, or can be led to vibrate, at certain electromagnetic frequencies. Electromagnetic energies of consciousness can be influenced to vibrate in a certain way to create a source of food. Just as apples can he prepared and eaten in a variety of ways, consciousness can be prepared and ingested in a variety of
ways.

The new owners of this planet had a different appetite and different preferences than the former owners. They nourished themselves with chaos and fear. These things fed them, stimulated them, and kept them in power.

These new owners who came here 300,000 years ago are the magnificent beings spoken of in your Bible, in the Babylonian and Sumerian tablets, and in texts all over the world. They came to Earth and rearranged the native human species. They rearranged your DNA in order to have you broadcast within a certain limited frequency band whose frequency could feed them and keep them in power."

Also, Carlos Castaneda speaks about the same thing:

"Don Juan, the Mexican Yaqui Indian shaman, tells Carlos Castaneda the following:

"We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so... I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner!

"This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico ... They took us over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. Just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, the predators rear us in human coops, humaneros. Therefore, their food is always available to them."

"No, no, no, no," [Carlos replies] "This is absurd don Juan. What you're saying is something monstrous. It simply can't be true, for sorcerers or for average men, or for anyone."

"Why not?" don Juan asked calmly. "Why not? Because it infuriates you? ... You haven't heard all the claims yet. I want to appeal to your analytical mind. Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradictions between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behaviour. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of belief, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed, and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal."

The same information comes out from different sources. I guess Marciniak is channeling valid, true information.

[gaias child]

Are you just saying this without any facts? Anyone can do this...
I trust Drunvalo, and how is he a con man?

Hi Smoothie

I know your question is directed at Zyphus, I don't think he has seen it though as has not been on this forum for a while .

He has addressed your question to me over a year ago, as i also asked on this thread. He seems to have done a lot of research. There is not just this post but others on Drunvelo.

Make of it what you will


http://forum.davidicke.com/showthread.php?p=1058738201#post1058738201

In short, Melchizedek claims to be an 'advanced' being who took over the original hosts body, what is known as a 'walk in'. 'Melchizedek' was Bernard Perona by birth, though a supposed nephew of his, Ken Page, refers to him as Uncle Donny or Uncle Don in his book 'The Traveler And The End of Time'. He [Melchizedek] also claims to have been mentored by, amongst 70 other teachers including Ram Dass, no other than Thoth himself. (The Egyptian god of writing, science, magic, etc). His Pal (Personal Arse Licker) Bob Frissel gushes openly about his Master at any opportunity he gets. He claims that Drunvalo's great-great-great-grandfather is Machiavinda Melchizedek. 'Machiavinda was the person assigned from Galactic Center to be with us. He has been here from the very moment we were created'. He also says that [Drunvalo] was chosen because of his longstanding experience in the Melchizedek Order in the thirteenth dimensional realm. He had been there almost from the beginning, or about 10 billion Earth years. He had almost no awareness of polarity consciousness and was 'dispatched' here because of that, because of his innocence. Drunvalo then tells us a little bit about his relationship with Thoth's wife, Shesat (*Seshat) , on page 31 in his book 'The Ancient Secret of the Flower of Life, Vol. 1':


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She’s a most extraordinary person—in some ways at least as extraordinary as Thoth, if not more so. She was the first person to bring me consciously to Earth, which was in, roughly, 1500 B.C. I was not physically here, but we had made a conscious link across the dimensions. She connected with me because of problems the Egyptians were having within their country that, from her point of view, would eventually affect the whole world and the outcome of humanity. We worked very closely together.

In his book 'You Are a Spiritual Being Having a Human Experience' Bob Frissel states : "Drunvalo’s second name is the name for a special class of beings who have attained the ability to move freely throughout the 144 different worlds or dimensions of reality that make up our “octave” - our region of the universe".

(There are 144,000 lightworkers called Eagles connected to the Ashtar Command. That is the minimum of souls required for the ascension process a.k.a. the New World Religion implementation.)

He goes on to say that when a person becomes a Melchizedek, they’re faced with a choice. Either they can leave this part of the universe and enter into a thirteenth dimension where everything is very different, or they can remain in this “octave” and serve as a troubleshooter or helper. Drunvalo supposedly made the decision to stick around and be a troubleshooter for humanity.

A little more on Drunvalo's great-great-great Grandfather, Machiavinda Melchizedek, from the 'Uranthia Book' Paper 93 in Part 3.


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The Melchizedeks are widely known as emergency Sons, for they engage in an amazing range of activities on the worlds of a local universe. When any extraordinary problem arises, or when something unusual is to be attempted, it is quite often a Melchizedek who accepts the assignment. The ability of the Melchizedek Sons to function in emergencies and on widely divergent levels of the universe, even on the physical level of personality manifestation, is peculiar to their order. Only the Life Carriers share to any degree this metamorphic range of personality function.

...

Revealed truth was threatened with extinction during the millenniums which followed the miscarriage of the Adamic mission on Urantia. Though making progress intellectually, the human races were slowly losing ground spiritually. About 3000 B.C. the concept of God had grown very hazy in the minds of men.

...

And it was in consequence of having been thrown so completely on their own resources that Machiventa Melchizedek, one of the twelve planetary receivers, volunteered to do that which had been done only six times in all the history of Nebadon: to personalize on earth as a temporary man of the realm, to bestow himself as an emergency Son of world ministry. Permission was granted for this adventure by the Salvington authorities, and the actual incarnation of Machiventa was consummated near what was to become the city of Salem, in Palestine.

http://avis-oculus.blogspot.com/

The 'Uranthia Book' along with 'A Course In Miracles' was written by people very heavily linked to the C.I.A. Not at all surprising really, especially when you look in to the Monarch program.


Quote:
Torkum Sassarian had died right before DB woke up, by the way. He showed me a photo of a gathering of newage gurus, with Sassarian in their midst, taken in 1987 on the grounds of the Masonic Temple in Sedona, Arizona. During that conference they were designing the mind control agenda that would be called, ‘the Harmonic Convergence.’ Present were DB, Sassarian, Gregg Braden, Drunvalo Melchizedek, Jean Houston, Shirley MacLaine, James Twyman and a dozen other people whose names I didn’t recognize, including Goru Adachi, from Japan, whom DB mistakenly assumed was Ken Adachi, who is an Italian guy from Brooklyn.

It was another six years or so before DB consciously realized that this was not a gathering of self-sacrifing beings. He told me that Shirley MacLaine is a very sweet person, though a childhood product of one of the early CIA Monarch Programs. He also told me that Drunvalo was given his job after DB bolted in the mid 90s.

http://www.whale.to/b/croft45.html

(The quote is taken from about half way down that page. And I have no idea who DB is either)

Drunvalo Melchizedek on Indigo Children


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Diane Cooper: So Drunvalo...who are these "*Children of the New Dream*" that you are so excited about?

Drunvalo: Well there are 3 different kinds of children emerging in the world today that I have been able to identify:

The first are called the "Super Psychic Children of China"
The second are called the "Indigo Children"
The third are called the "Children of AIDS"
The first one, the "*Super Psychics of China*", we talked about in the Flower of Life seminars. If you remember, the first one was discovered in 1984 when a child was found who was psychic beyond belief. Researchers conducted every psychic test you could imagine and he was 100% correct every time. You could turn cards over in another room and that didn't matter. He could perfectly know what was on the card.

http://maya12-21-2012.com/2012forum/...digo-children/

I would like to point out here that the term 'Indigo Children' was made mostly popular by a guy named Lee Carroll. The same Lee Carroll that has channelled 'Kryon' at the United Nations seven times over fourteen years http://www.kryon.com/k_un.html The United Nations is the epicentre for the coming 'One/New World Religion' which in turn is the key for the 'One/New World Order' to be implemented. Carroll later went on to say that the 'Indigo Children' of today are the ones doing the shootings in schools (Or words very close to that effect) in his book 'The Indigo Children - Ten Years Later) Which is published by Hay House and can be linked to the United Nations.

Alice Bailey and Helena Blavatsky have had a profound effect on shaping the 'One World Religion' through the United Nations. (There is so much more to be said on the United Nation's role in the proposed 'New World Religion', but it could literally take up pages and pages)

I would also like to point out that Diane Cooper is a firm advocate of the Ascended Masters and their role in the evolution of man.

Meeting Thoth


Quote:
Well, a Very Wise and Ancient Person appeared before Drunvalo Melchizedek in 1972, not long after Drunvalo "arrived" on this planet. This phantasmal Being gazed intensely with babylike eyes at Drunvalo, as if scrutinizing him without judgement... and then disappeared!

Twelve years later on November 1, 1984 (Drunvalo seems very specific about particular dates), the Strange Apparition appeared again, at first in the form of a golden, egg-shaped light; and then as a compact, brown-skinned, twinkling-eyed Man. This time, Drunvalo was ready to receive his distinguished visitor, whose name - or one of them at least - was Thoth.

His mission, it turned out, was to transmit to Drunvalo (and whoever was interested) everything he knew of Earth's tumultuous history since 50,000 B.C., when he was a mighty Atlantean king named Chiquetet Arelich Vomalitos. Actually, Thoth was a bit of a Time Traveller and had juicy information dating back 5.5 million years. Beyond that point, Thoth said, the Akashic Records had been scratched or completely deleted by an Inexplicable Occurrence. Now, any mystic worth his sacred mantram will tell you that every thought, word and deed is indelibly imprinted in the akasha (etheric timetrack). What could possibly have happened 5.5. million years ago around this planet to have obliterated the records? Oh well, never mind the hoary Past but what of the Future?

http://www.magickriver.net/immortality.htm


Quote:
It’s 1972. You’ve been on a spiritual quest for some time, studying many traditions with different teachers. Today you’re working with an instructor who has been teaching you about alchemy. You’re sitting across from your teacher with your eyes open doing a meditation.

All of a sudden, your teacher disappears before your eyes and you see in his place an odd-looking man. He’s about five foot three and wearing simple clothing in an ancient Egyptian style. The man has gentle eyes and appears to be in his seventies.

This strange man communicates to you. He says that there are three missing atoms in the universe and he wants YOU to find them. Then he demonstrates in a mysterious vision exactly what he means. And then he disappears. Your alchemy teacher is sitting in front of you as if nothing happened. Your teacher didn’t see this strange Egyptian man or know that anything unusual was going on during the meditation.

http://custodialsmackdown.wordpress....-in-the-flesh/

What is Melchizedek


Quote:
A sacred and Divine name that speaks of a theme that is timeless. Melchizedek is not necessarily just the name of an individual who once lived upon Earth, as many may presume. It is also the name of the Cosmic Priesthood that exists through every dimension upon every sacred planet. In ancient days, Melchizedek temples were set up for the purpose of teaching dedicated initiates how to unfold their spiritual gift so they in turn could help their brothers and sisters to freedom. The Melchizedek Priesthood comes in many forms. All of your favorite Ascended Masters and Gurus are each Melchizedeks in their own right. No matter what ideology or religion, every saint, sage, guru and master must go through the Melchizedek Initiations, whether in a temple or in the inner planes.

http://www.melchizedekusa.com/order_of_melchizedek.htm

The Melchizedek Mystery


Quote:
"Melchizedek’s a mystery,
He’s called the hidden Lord,
For he’s the sovereign Lord of Light
Who teaches souls God’s Law."

http://www.timstouse.com/EarthChanges/melchizedek.htm

Dead Sea Scrolls and the Melchizedek Order of Mastery


Quote:
Glossary section of the Keys of Enoch.

"Dead Sea Scriptures/Scrolls - The sacred teachings of YHWH used by Qumran Covenanters, a spiritual community "of Melchizedek," dedicated to the greater "Covenant of the Age to Come." Their teachings included 'the sons of heaven,' and also the 'collective Messiahship' of Aaron and Israel, as meshihe, symbolizing how the 'priesthoods' of the heavens, and the true remnant seed of Israel on earth, would be united when the 'Son of Man' returned triumphantly with the Order of Melchizedek and the B'nai Or. In terms of the scriptures of YHWH connected with the preaching of the Word of God, the work of Enoch, Melchizedek and Michael, the Qumran community of 'Light' testifies to the larger corpus of the Torah Or, and the ecumenical seed of Joseph and his brothers which Enoch calls 'the implanting of Light.' "

May Lord Sananda and the Holy Masters of the Melchizedek Order of Mastery guide, inspire and offer you wisdom now and in the years ahead.

http://www.holisticwebs.com/orbital/qumran.html


Quote:
THE ASHTAR COMMAND is a Brotherhood of Light under the spiritual leadership of Prince Sananda, Jesus the Christ. It is composed of millions of spaceships and members of various cosmic civilizations. It is here to assist the planet Earth and its humanity in this cycle of cleansing and realignment. They are universal ambassadors of peace. Their main teaching and message is spiritually focused, above anything else, to the recognition, realization and manifestation of the divine nature. The ASHTAR COMMAND is sending proofs of its presence and existence to Earth, shutting down forever the negative arguments with respect to its protection. The ASHTAR Command, also known as THE GALACTIC COMMAND, COMMAND OF THE EXTRATERRESTRIAL FORCES OF THE INTERGALACTIC CONFEDERATION and THE FLEET OF THE SOLAR CROSS, is composed of personnel represented in many dimensions, civilizations and points of cosmic origin.

http://www.luisprada.com/Protected/t...ar_command.htm

I could honestly go on and on and on, and this is just the tip of the iceberg.

You will find the name 'Melchizedek' referred to in Catholicism many times.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...licism&spell=1

As well as Freemasonry.
http://www.google.co.uk/search?hl=en...G=Search&meta=

Also, if you enjoy the reptilian theory and/or interested in reverse speech, then Peggy Kane has written a small article about Drunvalo Melchizedek at her site 'EVP'.

Drunvalo Melchizedek, Native American Elders Gathering
http://www.evpreversespeaking.com/20...ers-gathering/

Another blog shedding 'undesirable' links on Drunvalo. Mostly to do with the Stan Tenen case.
http://www.zenatode.org.uk/ian/misc/drunvalo.xhtml

And the link to the Dan Winter site. They guy who was quite literally 'in the middle' of the Stan Tenen case.
http://www.danwinter.com/

Apologies for such a long post, but your question opened up a can of worms, and I have genuinely tried to keep it as short and sweet as possible[/QUOTE]

[chaozine]

Interesting stories to say the least but is there any truth in them? I'd be careful what i believe and what i don't.

[gaias child]

I agree, and that also goes for the Pleiadian material and david icke and anyone else for that matter.

Most stuff out there is mind distraction

Try and stay in your own heart and own consciousness, and not be influenced by others, which is predominantly mind distraction, that is more important. IMHO

[largejack]

I have found information that supports Icke's theory from another writer.

Barbara Marciniak has written several books and is a channeler for the Pleiadian race of beings. I know about half of you wouldn't believe that and some of you might consider....

Anyway in her book, 'Earth: Pleidians Keys to the Living Library' I came across something very similar to what is expounded in Icke's latest, 'Human Race Get off Your Knees The Lion Sleeps No More.'

Because there is such a parallel I really think Icke might be exactly right.

In Marciniak's book on page 202:

"The moon is a satellite that was constructed. It was built and anchored outside Earth's atmosphere as a mediating and monitoring device, a supercomputer or eye in the sky. It affects all life forms on this planet, beyond what you can currently grasp. In your history there are references to two moons around earth...."

(In reference to the two moons I give a nod to whoever started another thread....Someone on this forum mentioned they had a dream of two moons. You may have been right and had a psychic dream!)

"Earth must be owned by those who dwell here; however it is not. You have outside gods, creator energies who prevent you as a species, from having free rein with your kundalini. The influence of the moon, as a main satellite computers affects all of earth.....

"There have been many, many battles over the moon. Parts of the moon are owned, and parts are utilized. There is a plan to gradually insert different programs of influence on earth when the moon becomes occupied by forces that would assist you in your growth, rather than limit you. The moons programs as for eons have been of great limitation toward human beings. The tales about the full moon and insanity, madness and heightened bleeding are all quite true. There are repetitive cycles that the moon creates to which you respond. You know that television influences you to a great degree. The moon is the same way. You simply have not been able to tune into the moon's programs and learn how to turn them off. You cannot. Others must turn the moon off for you or reprogram the moon, which is taking place right now.

"At this time, the moon is quite controlled. Extraterrestrials and others have many bases on the moon, and those from Earth have little influence when it comes down to it."

It all very similar to Icke's theory isn't it? And this was channeled and written back in 1994-1995!!! I suggest reading some of Barbara Marciniak's books like the excerpt from "earth" above or her other books.

What do you think? It sounds a lot like a matrix like thing where the moon is controlling and influencing us more than we think! It is astonishing that Icke has also proclaimed that they're are ET bases on the moon!

I was watching the moon last night, and I could feel the energy, pull and vibrational effects going right through my head? In fact the whole things literally quivers with vibration when you look at it? I have no reason to doubt these claims.

[gaias child]

I was watching the moon last night, and I could feel the energy, pull and vibrational effects going right through my head? In fact the whole things literally quivers with vibration when you look at it? I have no reason to doubt these claims.

I agree. And listen your own self/heart first.

someonelse's interpretation will never be the same as yours.

[justin_pushka]

Its not that marcinak agrees with david but rather david would agree with marcinak. David is familiar with the pleiadean stuff and quotes from marcinaks books in either robots rebelion or and the truth i forget which one. Theres alot of really way out forward thinking in marcinaks books. Ive re read and re read them and always come across info that ive missed. I think some of the info may have alot of truth but i doubt the way she came across the info, she may be less a channeler and more an insider speaking some insider truths for proffit or as a gate keeper. thats just my opinion and is based only on gut instinct. Thinking about the moon too much wil drive you mad tho! lol. :) Anyway enough rambling from me, its my day off and its sunny so im off out....

[twilighterheart]

I have read a couple of her books. I like how she calls the reptilians 'reppies' to take the edge off of the subject matter.

Some of her other topics like men embracing women's menses is a thought provoker for good or ill.

[twilighterheart]

Thinking about the moon too much wil drive you mad tho! lol. :) Anyway enough rambling from me, its my day off and its sunny so im off out....
Pun about the moon and 'luna'cy!

[ant777uk]

Barbara Markianiak's books are good, I have read a few of them.

Books by Patricia Cori also are brilliant.

She has channeled about 5 books and again their contents are very similar to the conclusions of David Icke and others. Instead of Pleadians she claims to be channeling beings from Sirius.

There is also loads of channeled stuff out there that is contradictory.

In the same way humans all believe different things and have different experiences, so it would seem do those on different frequencies of existence.

So trust nothing except yourself; however if you connect truly with your own intuition you should be led to books, people and events which contain the access code information to activate your own DNA and life force.

[twilighterheart]

Barbara Markianiak's books are good, I have read a few of them.

Books by Patricia Cori also are brilliant.

She has channeled about 5 books and again their contents are very similar to the conclusions of David Icke and others. Instead of Pleadians she claims to be channeling beings from Sirius.

There is also loads of channeled stuff out there that is contradictory.

In the same way humans all believe different things and have different experiences, so it would seem do those on different frequencies of existence.

So trust nothing except yourself; however if you connect truly with your own intuition you should be led to books, people and events which contain the access code information to activate your own DNA and life force.
:)

[beldazar]

Just subbing for 'ron :)

[mountain]

OP, I have come across those references to the moon in Earth Pleaidian Keys as well. One of my favourite reads too, I must say along with Bringers of the Dawn and Path of Empowerment.

Thanks for posting it on the forum :) It definitely gets the mind cogs churning.

[gaias child]

Barbara Markianiak's books are good, I have read a few of them.

Books by Patricia Cori also are brilliant.

She has channeled about 5 books and again their contents are very similar to the conclusions of David Icke and others. Instead of Pleadians she claims to be channeling beings from Sirius.

There is also loads of channeled stuff out there that is contradictory.

In the same way humans all believe different things and have different experiences, so it would seem do those on different frequencies of existence.

So trust nothing except yourself; however if you connect truly with your own intuition you should be led to books, people and events which contain the access code information to activate your own DNA and life force.

I like Patricia Cori books too, I've read all her books and i particularly like the first one Cosmos of the Soul.

[shiyoken]

I have just started reading Bringer of the new dawn. My brother brought himself and me one from Amazon. I brought him a Carl Sagan book before, so he returned the favor, though it was not intended that way lol.

So far the book seems pretty good. I've read on the Reptilian forum a few days ago about that interview with the Reptilian name Lacerta. Only on chapter 2 at the moment in BotnD, but they have some synchronicity. What I remember from the interview is that the Reptilian made out that they were the good guys and the beings who they were fighting with, was the bad guys (I'm guessing she was referring to the Pleiadians's). If anyone who has read BotnD with good understanding, maybe read the interview if you haven't yet, I would like to hear your opinions on it (nothing to in depth) but something that gives a clear picture.

I may be wrong about the whole thing though, I read it all in one go, which wasn't intended to lol!

Thanks!

http://www.whale.to/b/lacerta.html

[beyonddimensions]

Which Patricia Cori books are best and/or most interesting?

[indolering]

@Raven Patronus

Great thread, Raven. I think it was in Tales From the Time Loop where David mentions being drawn to one of Barbara's books which then led to visits with a psychic which started his awakening.

It's fascinating indeed that Barbara's channeled material concerning the moon corresponds so closely with David's recent work. Having read 'Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon' by Don Wilson, I also became convinced that the moon is an artificial construct deliberately parked into orbit around Earth for purposes of monitoring and manipulation.

I think this information is important because it represents one more piece of the puzzle of how we're being manipulated. I'm no longer enamored by the moon and all the fancy mythological tales of love and madness.... It's just another celestial orb and not a completely natural one at that. It's the heart that matters, and the energy it conducts - Love.;)

[twilighterheart]

@Raven Patronus

Great thread, Raven. I think it was in Tales From the Time Loop where David mentions being drawn to one of Barbara's books which then led to visits with a psychic which started his awakening.

It's fascinating indeed that Barbara's channeled material concerning the moon corresponds so closely with David's recent work. Having read 'Our Mysterious Spaceship Moon' by Don Wilson, I also became convinced that the moon is an artificial construct deliberately parked into orbit around Earth for purposes of monitoring and manipulation.

I think this information is important because it represents one more piece of the puzzle of how we're being manipulated. I'm no longer enamored by the moon and all the fancy mythological tales of love and madness.... It's just another celestial orb and not a completely natural one at that. It's the heart that matters, and the energy it conducts - Love.;)

What's with all of the hating on the poor moon? If it wasn't there we wouldn't be here. It helps to keep the Earth orbit much more stabilize and allows all life on Earth to be. It is something to think about at least.

[starshine]

This lady is sound, and hey I am going to research her more and more.:)

[mountain]

I have just started reading Bringer of the new dawn. My brother brought himself and me one from Amazon. I brought him a Carl Sagan book before, so he returned the favor, though it was not intended that way lol.

So far the book seems pretty good. I've read on the Reptilian forum a few days ago about that interview with the Reptilian name Lacerta. Only on chapter 2 at the moment in BotnD, but they have some synchronicity. What I remember from the interview is that the Reptilian made out that they were the good guys and the beings who they were fighting with, was the bad guys (I'm guessing she was referring to the Pleiadians's). If anyone who has read BotnD with good understanding, maybe read the interview if you haven't yet, I would like to hear your opinions on it (nothing to in depth) but something that gives a clear picture.

I may be wrong about the whole thing though, I read it all in one go, which wasn't intended to lol!

Thanks!

http://www.whale.to/b/lacerta.html

I have read the Lacerta files and they do seem to tie in with one another. Try reading the other Marcianiak books like Family of Light, Path of Empowerment and Earth Pleiadian Keys To the Living Library.

[ant777uk]

Which Patricia Cori books are best and/or most interesting?

I would say that Atlantis Rising is the best overall; however Cosmos of Soul is the 1st one.

I would still buy Cosmos of Soul 1st; even though Atlantis Rising is possibly the best.

However you may feel more compelled to buy one of the other books...so go for whichever magnetically draws you to it the strongest. Read some of the reviews on Amazon...this will give you a pretty good idea about each one

[indolering]

Here is Barbara's "Bringers of the Dawn" in audio format.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=i7l0cJL7e4w

Also, for those who like to read, you can find the book in PDF on torrent and similar websites.

She is mentioning the same thing as David Icke is. Here is an interesting excerpt:

"These new creator gods who were the new owners were also master geneticists. They understood how to create life, and they wanted this territory for their own reasons. Territories are created and held by certain energies for many reasons, one of which is that there is consciousness within all things.

Consciousness communicates continuously. Consciousness vibrates, or can be led to vibrate, at certain electromagnetic frequencies. Electromagnetic energies of consciousness can be influenced to vibrate in a certain way to create a source of food. Just as apples can he prepared and eaten in a variety of ways, consciousness can be prepared and ingested in a variety of
ways.

The new owners of this planet had a different appetite and different preferences than the former owners. They nourished themselves with chaos and fear. These things fed them, stimulated them, and kept them in power.

These new owners who came here 300,000 years ago are the magnificent beings spoken of in your Bible, in the Babylonian and Sumerian tablets, and in texts all over the world. They came to Earth and rearranged the native human species. They rearranged your DNA in order to have you broadcast within a certain limited frequency band whose frequency could feed them and keep them in power."

Also, Carlos Castaneda speaks about the same thing:

"Don Juan, the Mexican Yaqui Indian shaman, tells Carlos Castaneda the following:

"We have a predator that came from the depths of the cosmos and took over the rule of our lives. Human beings are its prisoners. The predator is our lord and master. It has rendered us docile, helpless. If we want to protest, it suppresses our protest. If we want to act independently, it demands that we don't do so... I have been beating around the bush all this time, insinuating to you that something is holding us prisoner. Indeed we are held prisoner!

"This was an energetic fact for the sorcerers of ancient Mexico ... They took us over because we are food for them, and they squeeze us mercilessly because we are their sustenance. Just as we rear chickens in chicken coops, the predators rear us in human coops, humaneros. Therefore, their food is always available to them."

"No, no, no, no," [Carlos replies] "This is absurd don Juan. What you're saying is something monstrous. It simply can't be true, for sorcerers or for average men, or for anyone."

"Why not?" don Juan asked calmly. "Why not? Because it infuriates you? ... You haven't heard all the claims yet. I want to appeal to your analytical mind. Think for a moment, and tell me how you would explain the contradictions between the intelligence of man the engineer and the stupidity of his systems of beliefs, or the stupidity of his contradictory behaviour. Sorcerers believe that the predators have given us our systems of belief, our ideas of good and evil, our social mores. They are the ones who set up our hopes and expectations and dreams of success or failure. They have given us covetousness, greed, and cowardice. It is the predators who make us complacent, routinary, and egomaniacal."

The same information comes out from different sources. I guess Marciniak is channeling valid, true information.

link :)

[iceblue]

I am currently reading The Path of Empowerment and I must say it is one fine read. This is a rather practical book that gives advice on how to ride out these times of planetary shift. The topics are about consciousness, creation, health, food, sexuality. There is nothing about the lizzies & co which fine for a change, a rest. Just the important things about yourself: here and now, your health, your life, your well-being.

The main theme is, of course, that each and every one of us is creating her/his own reality with the power of thought and intention.

Here are some nice quotes to quench your curiosity and thirst for knowledge:

In all truth, your world is just beginning to discover the multitude of capabilities inherent within the human form.

Creative expression and supreme responsibility are key components for awakening and developing your spiritual intelligence.

You came to Earth to anchor this ancient knowledge into the human form, knowing that life here offers as many opportunities and gifts as you may choose to experience.

Awareness and control of the breath are the essential keys for understanding and developing the higher mind...

Reality adjusting, or using your frequency by way of intent, is the wave of the future.

One of the primary laws is: Thought creates reality.

Denial will be a choice by those who stand in ignorance despite commonly available knowledge.

The excessive use of medication to deal with the problems of life is a warning sign that something of major significance is occuring, and people are choosing to use drugs to block it out.

And there are great reasons, as well, why the controlling forces of your world seek to divert your attention and manage every nuance of your thinking: to keep you from figuring out what is happening inside.

The only way to really learn about your free will is to have what you create return to you.

A key to vital health is the ability to sustain love for yourself and excitement for life.

Remember that forgiveness is a self-healing act that releases you from the lower vibrations of anger and judgement...

We ask you to consider, what have you learned about yourself and life through your sexual experiences, and even more, what new realizations hover on the horizon of your awakening mind?

Sex is a dance of energy; it is your contact point with the vital force of creation as well as a declaration of your identity in physical reality.

[iceblue]

Barbara Markianiak's books are good, I have read a few of them.

Books by Patricia Cori also are brilliant.

She has channeled about 5 books and again their contents are very similar to the conclusions of David Icke and others. Instead of Pleadians she claims to be channeling beings from Sirius.

There is also loads of channeled stuff out there that is contradictory.

In the same way humans all believe different things and have different experiences, so it would seem do those on different frequencies of existence.

So trust nothing except yourself; however if you connect truly with your own intuition you should be led to books, people and events which contain the access code information to activate your own DNA and life force.

I agree 100%. Because everyone has a unique life path and purpose, that's why everyone must research for themselves - to find their destiny, their task in this life on Earth.

[beldazar]

I am currently reading The Path of Empowerment and I must say it is one fine read. This is a rather practical book that gives advice on how to ride out these times of planetary shift. The topics are about consciousness, creation, health, food, sexuality. There is nothing about the lizzies & co which fine for a change, a rest. Just the important things about yourself: here and now, your health, your life, your well-being.

The main theme is, of course, that each and every one of us is creating her/his own reality with the power of thought and intention.

Here are some nice quotes to quench your curiosity and thirst for knowledge:

Many thanks for the quote ice-blue, I really needed to read that right now :)

[thirdwave]

I have found information that supports Icke's theory from another writer.

Barbara Marciniak has written several books and is a channeler for the Pleiadian race of beings. I know about half of you wouldn't believe that and some of you might consider....

Anyway in her book, 'Earth: Pleidians Keys to the Living Library' I came across something very similar to what is expounded in Icke's latest, 'Human Race Get off Your Knees The Lion Sleeps No More.'

Because there is such a parallel I really think Icke might be exactly right.

In Marciniak's book on page 202:

"The moon is a satellite that was constructed. It was built and anchored outside Earth's atmosphere as a mediating and monitoring device, a supercomputer or eye in the sky. It affects all life forms on this planet, beyond what you can currently grasp. In your history there are references to two moons around earth...."

(In reference to the two moons I give a nod to whoever started another thread....Someone on this forum mentioned they had a dream of two moons. You may have been right and had a psychic dream!)

"Earth must be owned by those who dwell here; however it is not. You have outside gods, creator energies who prevent you as a species, from having free rein with your kundalini. The influence of the moon, as a main satellite computers affects all of earth.....

"There have been many, many battles over the moon. Parts of the moon are owned, and parts are utilized. There is a plan to gradually insert different programs of influence on earth when the moon becomes occupied by forces that would assist you in your growth, rather than limit you. The moons programs as for eons have been of great limitation toward human beings. The tales about the full moon and insanity, madness and heightened bleeding are all quite true. There are repetitive cycles that the moon creates to which you respond. You know that television influences you to a great degree. The moon is the same way. You simply have not been able to tune into the moon's programs and learn how to turn them off. You cannot. Others must turn the moon off for you or reprogram the moon, which is taking place right now.

"At this time, the moon is quite controlled. Extraterrestrials and others have many bases on the moon, and those from Earth have little influence when it comes down to it."

It all very similar to Icke's theory isn't it? And this was channeled and written back in 1994-1995!!! I suggest reading some of Barbara Marciniak's books like the excerpt from "earth" above or her other books.

What do you think? It sounds a lot like a matrix like thing where the moon is controlling and influencing us more than we think! It is astonishing that Icke has also proclaimed that they're are ET bases on the moon!


I find allot of her work very good and also Ether Hicks... But I do not believe they are completely genuine.

I think they may have channeled something and allot of the info and ideas they speak of I support very much and resonate with allot of people..

For a start I do not think you can just go on tour and press a button when an audience is there and expect a being to be there in full convo... I don't really think it works that way... I think that part is more or less put on to sell seats and a marketable way to promote info...

I would not call them frauds as such... just very marketed and staged... although of course some of them are blatant frauds..

I think channeling would usually come where you are not expecting it, or on occasion after very intense deep mediation.. I don't believe one can have a 2 hour convo with a room full of people..

So while I would urge people to take much of the ideas and view points seriously, I would take the scenario with a pinch of salt. personally.

[archemis]

I agree, and that also goes for the Pleiadian material and david icke and anyone else for that matter.

Most stuff out there is mind distraction

Try and stay in your own heart and own consciousness, and not be influenced by others, which is predominantly mind distraction, that is more important. IMHO

A gem of advice! Much of the New Age stuff is propoganda, and engineered by the cabal. There are 'traps' for every mindset and belief system. The True way is within.