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dontbeafraid
20-05-2010, 08:01 PM
He is just a tool of the NWO. He was paid yearly 180k usd by the CIA.

The REAL Dalai Lama - YouTube

snapdragon
20-05-2010, 08:04 PM
Of course.

dontbeafraid
20-05-2010, 08:05 PM
Of course.

I know, I was just posting it for the really asleep members who have'nt figured it out yet. :)

himitsunomiko
20-05-2010, 08:06 PM
Yeah, I read about that in the "Whistleblower" blog.

She states that he was getting his followers to invoke the god Indra.

dontbeafraid
20-05-2010, 08:12 PM
Yeah, I read about that in the "Whistleblower" blog.

She states that he was getting his followers to invoke the god Indra.

I know. What I find weird is that people actually listen to the Dalai Lama on tapes to relax and get closer to the source...thats like Arabs listening to Obama for change and hope.

kryst
20-05-2010, 08:12 PM
Fake gandhi

halliburton crusher
20-05-2010, 08:26 PM
i know. What i find weird is that people actually listen to the dalai lama on tapes to relax and get closer to the source...thats like arabs listening to obama for change and hope.

excellent analogy - l.o.l.

dontbeafraid
20-05-2010, 08:30 PM
Here is another mess of hate the DL has made.

Tibetans Gone WILD!!! HOT HOT HOT - YouTube

size_of_light
20-05-2010, 08:34 PM
You all couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

soul_traveller
20-05-2010, 08:36 PM
Does he 'play' with children?

size_of_light
20-05-2010, 08:39 PM
Does he 'play' with children?

Do you?

nectars
20-05-2010, 08:41 PM
You all couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

^^

bobbydiva
20-05-2010, 08:42 PM
You all couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

I've seen more evidence that suggests he's a pacified shill than a legitmate spiritual leader.

My feeling is that the TPTB have got a hold on him, just like every one else, even if he doesn't know it himself.

dontbeafraid
20-05-2010, 08:43 PM
Does he 'play' with children?

Interesting question...lets see if he fits any pedo profiles. Usually pedos are not married or have fake marriages, like priests, mike Jackson, cause its probably hard to hide ones sexuality from ones wife. So they don't marry or if they do, they have a really weird marriage.
I don't think the DL is married. So far he fits the profile.

bobbydiva
20-05-2010, 08:43 PM
Here's one idea:

CrossTalk on Dalai Lama: CIA monk exposed - YouTube

purplepebble
20-05-2010, 08:49 PM
The Dali Lhama is a Dugpa.

Erm his connections with Himmler etc.. He is no different than the Pope FFS. Recently photographed with Obama. What just because he is a Buddhist he is pure as the driven snow? I think that he will have a big hand ushering the New World Religion.

mrindigo
20-05-2010, 08:53 PM
The Dali Lhama is a Dugpa.

Erm his connections with Himmler etc.. He is no different than the Pope FFS. Recently photographed with Obama. What just because he is a Buddhist he is pure as the driven snow? I think that he will have a big hand ushering the New World Religion.

^^ You beat me to it. The Nazi connections are sketchy. The whole thing runs very deep. That much said, I couldn't agree with you more.

Good thread, dontbeafraid.

size_of_light
20-05-2010, 08:56 PM
I've seen more evidence that suggests he's a pacified shill than a legitmate spiritual leader.

My feeling is that the TPTB have got a hold on him, just like every one else, even if he doesn't know it himself.

If I was a reincarnated bodhisattva who'd taken a vow many lifetimes ago to return time and time again to benefit all beings and found myself currently playing a pivotal role in the future survival of this world in one of the most sacred and potentially dangerous flashpoints on the planet, I'd seek a dialogue with the CIA and accept a little pocket money from them too.

northern star
20-05-2010, 09:01 PM
ofcourse the dalai lama is a shill. He's not even a real buddhist. Loves meat and money.

These people are put in place to make believe change is happening, when nothing changes. Same goes for Nelson Mandela. On one superficial level change happens but if you look at the bigger picture, nothing positive happens on a world scale.

angelthecat
20-05-2010, 09:07 PM
for someone who believes in reincarnation and the ever lasting spirit he soon done a runner when the bullets started flying. why did he go into exile ? why was he afraid to die ? why did he desert his people ? he could have died yesterday and been born again tomorrow that is if he believed what he preached :D
The infinate oneness is straight from the book of aleister crowley and is written to make murder acceptable, you cant really kill because man cannot die he is infinate !

so you can NUKE them ?

evenus_cinatus
20-05-2010, 09:10 PM
ofcourse the dalai lama is a shill. He's not even a real buddhist. Loves meat and money.

These people are put in place to make believe change is happening, when nothing changes. Same goes for Nelson Mandela. On one superficial level change happens but if you look at the bigger picture, nothing positive happens on a world scale.

Buddhists can eat meat if its offered to them. They can't if the animal is killed to supply meat on their request. The historical Buddha allowed meat eating as long as a buddhist does not take the animal's life or get others to kill to supply the meat directly.

purplepebble
20-05-2010, 09:12 PM
Just what is being protected in Tibet is the question. The original Ayrans anyone? That might be worth looking in to if you havne't done it already.

Isn't the ENTIRE planet sacred?

merlincove
20-05-2010, 09:13 PM
Interesting question...lets see if he fits any pedo profiles. Usually pedos are not married or have fake marriages, like priests, mike Jackson, cause its probably hard to hide ones sexuality from ones wife. So they don't marry or if they do, they have a really weird marriage.
I don't think the DL is married. So far he fits the profile.

So anybody who believes in celebacy and does not have an urge for sexual gratification is a pedo?

Your post is full of fail.

time for a Reality Check geeza?

purplepebble
20-05-2010, 09:14 PM
Buddhists can eat meat if its offered to them. They can't if the animal is killed to supply meat on their request. The historical Buddha allowed meat eating as long as a buddhist does not take the animal's life or get others to kill to supply the meat directly.


Oh so it is ok for someone else to get blood on their hands then. Still guilty by association. ;)

merlincove
20-05-2010, 09:15 PM
You all couldn't be more wrong if you tried.

:D

+1

Having met His Holliness i can honestly say that i have never met a more caring and beautiful human being, his aura is like nothing i have ever seen, what an amazing energy he has.

He has no Ego and radiates love and understanding, unlike the OP :rolleyes:

merlincove
20-05-2010, 09:16 PM
Just what is being protected in Tibet is the question. The original Ayrans anyone? That might be worth looking in to if you havne't done it already.

Isn't the ENTIRE planet sacred?

Yes, the entire planet is sacred.

Maybe there is a stargate in Tibet?

dontbeafraid
20-05-2010, 09:19 PM
So anybody who believes in celebacy and does not have an urge for sexual gratification is a pedo?

Your post is full of fail.

time for a Reality Check geeza?

If I wrote what is marked in bold it would have read:
"anybody who believes in celebacy and has an urge for sexual gratification is a pedo.

merlincove
20-05-2010, 09:23 PM
If I wrote what is marked in bold it would have read:
"anybody who believes in celebacy and has an urge for sexual gratification is a pedo.

ok then

:rolleyes:

so simply because the Dalai Lama believes in celebacy, has no children and no desire for sexual relationships - by you account:

Interesting question...lets see if he fits any pedo profiles. Usually pedos are not married or have fake marriages, like priests, mike Jackson, cause its probably hard to hide ones sexuality from ones wife. So they don't marry or if they do, they have a really weird marriage.
I don't think the DL is married. So far he fits the profile.

this makes him a predator and abuser of children, in your opinion?

mrindigo
20-05-2010, 09:24 PM
Just what is being protected in Tibet is the question. The original Ayrans anyone? That might be worth looking in to if you havne't done it already.

Isn't the ENTIRE planet sacred?

*nod*

Then there's the interesting connection between the Vimanas mentioned in Buddhist texts and the flying discs the Nazis were supposed to have been developing. Oddly, the space race between the US and Russia happened after operation paperclip.

hadabusa
20-05-2010, 09:25 PM
Buddhists can eat meat if its offered to them. They can't if the animal is killed to supply meat on their request. The historical Buddha allowed meat eating as long as a buddhist does not take the animal's life or get others to kill to supply the meat directly.

oh,the i like sausage but not how its made thing.

northern star
20-05-2010, 09:31 PM
nobody spiritually evolved would consider eating meat. If you eat meat then life isnt sacred to you, so how can you in any way be a spiritual leader?

tony le mesmer
20-05-2010, 09:31 PM
The old Lama game? All the orange robes and enlightenment? Hardest game in the world. Done it meself, you see. 30 years man and boy.

http://www.bbc.co.uk/comedy/fastshow/characters/images/archie2.jpg

dontbeafraid
20-05-2010, 09:31 PM
ok then

:rolleyes:

so simply because the Dalai Lama believes in celebacy, has no children and no desire for sexual relationships - by you account:



this makes him a predator and abuser of children, in your opinion?

He is a shill, and he fits one of the lifestyle traits pedos have. Another one is they are usually late middleaged men.

evenus_cinatus
20-05-2010, 09:38 PM
Oh so it is ok for someone else to get blood on their hands then. Still guilty by association. ;)

Buddhism is a wholly personal quest for enlightenment. Everything is illusionary with regard to the seeker's awareness. Besides once life leaves the gross body why waste the good meat and let other creatures feed off it and convert it into another form of matter? The soul-awareness cannot be defiled by any form of matter. If you think it does you are aiding in your own imprisionment in this sphere of reality. Every gross body is a disposible shell for the soul. If meat-eating disgusts you don't eat it. But don't criticise others who love to eat meat. Your own inner enlightenment should occupy your mind. Why interact and try to change the habits of the other illusionary forms surrounding you on the outside.

merlincove
20-05-2010, 09:40 PM
He is a shill, and he fits one of the lifestyle traits pedos have. Another one is they are usually late middleaged men.

Do you really not see the absurdity in that post in the context given?

So in your reality, middle aged men who are not married and believe in celebacy are pedo's?

Yes, i am sure that the Dalai Lama loves children, in the same way that he loves everyone else on the planet, but to equate his being toward being a sexual deviant simply because he chooses to live a certain way shows your total lack of awareness, imo.

Your reality must be a hugely frightening one to be in.

dontbeafraid
20-05-2010, 09:42 PM
Do you really not see the absurdity in that post in the context given?

So in your reality, middle aged men who are not married and believe in celebacy are pedo's?

Yes, i am sure that the Dalai Lama loves children, in the same way that he loves everyone else on the planet, but to equate his being toward being a sexual deviant simply because he chooses to live a certain way shows your total lack of awareness, imo.

Your reality must be a hugely frightening one to be in.

In my reality people who are on the CIA payrole are shills. If thats not in yours then fine.

evenus_cinatus
20-05-2010, 09:43 PM
nobody spiritually evolved would consider eating meat. If you eat meat then life isnt sacred to you, so how can you in any way be a spiritual leader?

The soul and the body are separate. Once the soul is gone the body is nothing but matter. In fact the body has aways been matter. Killing is wrong but meat eating is not. There is a difference. Matter decays and is worthless. Why worship any form of matter? Worship the soul and spirit.

tony le mesmer
20-05-2010, 09:44 PM
what a sad cliche this use of the word 'shill' is and has become. You may aswell divide everyone into goodies and baddies and have done with any pretence that you are applying a level of measured intelligence and rational analysis to events.

dontbeafraid
20-05-2010, 09:46 PM
what a sad cliche this use of the word 'shill' is and has become. You may aswell divide everyone into goodies and baddies and have done with any pretence that you are applying a level of measured intelligence and rational analysis to events.

lol you are joking right? He is on the CIA payrole and you dont think that means he is a shill? What if Alex Jones was on the CIA payrool? Would you still say thats not a shill?

merlincove
20-05-2010, 09:48 PM
In my reality people who are on the CIA payrole are shills. If thats not in yours then fine.

But in your reality it is just conjecture :D

tony le mesmer
20-05-2010, 09:52 PM
The situation is full of ambiguity. From his perspective the Chinese invasion of his land and people might have led him to consider involvement of another power.
Its not so simple to go labelling as good or bad, damned or saved. People are more complex than that on the whole.

purplepebble
21-05-2010, 12:10 AM
nobody spiritually evolved would consider eating meat. If you eat meat then life isnt sacred to you, so how can you in any way be a spiritual leader?

So native people all over the world who have been more or less living the same way for thousands of years are not spiritually evolved because they eat meat? Yet I could be spiritually evolved because I buy organic at Sainsburys?

purplepebble
21-05-2010, 12:44 AM
If meat-eating disgusts you don't eat it. But don't criticise others who love to eat meat. Your own inner enlightenment should occupy your mind. Why interact and try to change the habits of the other illusionary forms surrounding you on the outside.

It wasn't a criticism.
If, as part of the enlightenment process involves abstaining from eating meat, but it is OK to eat meat that you haven't killed, it is because there is belief or fear that in doing so will hamper the enlightenment process.

I couldn't care less who eats meat and who doesn't, what a person eats has nothing to do with spirituality, being "evolved" or anything else. I agree that carcasses can be recycled, I don't have a problem with it at all.

For the record, I am partial to fish, Red Snapper.

petercookie
21-05-2010, 12:56 AM
I am skeptical of the dalai lama.......... I dont think he is "enlightened" at all in all honesty......

Buddism and zen are diffrent though, i have alot of respect and agree with alot of the teachings........ Just something seems a miss with "his holiness"......I could be wrong though.

merlincove
21-05-2010, 01:01 AM
I am skeptical of the dalai lama.......... I dont think he is "enlightened" at all in all honesty......

Buddism and zen are diffrent though, i have alot of respect and agree with alot of the teachings........ Just something seems a miss with "his holiness"......I could be wrong though.

i think it is good to be sceptical :D

it keeps the mind open

I'd question why people would choose to make wholly unfounded allogations that he is a CIA shill and a pedo without any proof though.

;)

thetonic
21-05-2010, 01:04 AM
Buddhists can eat meat if its offered to them. They can't if the animal is killed to supply meat on their request. The historical Buddha allowed meat eating as long as a buddhist does not take the animal's life or get others to kill to supply the meat directly.

lol... how convenient :rolleyes:

I realized long ago that the so called peaceful and advanced religions of the east 'Buddhism' , 'Hinduism', etc ... Are nearly as complete a shammy crock of shit as the westernized ones

The Dali Llama is a key illuminati figure in the east . He is not a 'good guy'. Dont kid yourselves

crypticmystic
21-05-2010, 01:07 AM
I am skeptical of the dalai lama.......... I dont think he is "enlightened" at all in all honesty......

Buddism and zen are different though, i have alot of respect and agree with a lot of the teachings........ Just something seems a miss with "his holiness"......I could be wrong though.

nah you ain't

he is too agreeable, esp to 'western sympathisers' and it's 'controllers'

a shill for sure, a wankstain that is an abomination to the beliefs of buddhism

i.e. a potential needless killing, a waste of life on the spurt of ecclesiastical acceptance of westernisim

soul_traveller
21-05-2010, 01:10 AM
Taken from the Americian researcher Stewart Swerdlow's website:
http://www.expansions.com/News.cfm?DOP=2010-2-1&pnl=1_2

February 24, 2010

Dalai Lie-ma

The Dalai Lama recently met with President Obama to discuss Tibet and other issues. The Dalai lama also met with the news media where he made a few statements.

He claims that the 6 million people of Tibet need education and infrastructure that can only be given by the Chinese. He says that the Tibetans do NOT want independence from China, just a bit more personal freedoms.

Nothing could be further from the truth. I just drove all across Tibet last October from Nepal to China. I can tell you with certainty that the Tibetan people WANT true independence and despise their Chinese overlords. I heard this over and over, even from tour guides who were supposed to spew Chinese dogma.

The Dalai Lama has just proven himself to be a patsy of the NWO and not a leader for the Tibetan people. He is a programmed, mind-controlled robot who does what he is told.

The Chinese have massive troops in Tibet and many spies. That is not a sign of freedom or peaceful coexistence.

coco
21-05-2010, 01:14 AM
*nod*

Then there's the interesting connection between the Vimanas mentioned in Buddhist texts and the flying discs the Nazis were supposed to have been developing. Oddly, the space race between the US and Russia happened after operation paperclip.

Bingo!

I sometimes wonder if the Nazi explorers didn't advance their knowledge of flying machines when they visited the far corners of the planet to include Tibet, learning of the Vimanas.

northern star
21-05-2010, 01:24 AM
So native people all over the world who have been more or less living the same way for thousands of years are not spiritually evolved because they eat meat? Yet I could be spiritually evolved because I buy organic at Sainsburys?

i reckon the most successful and sustainable lives of native peoples were either vegetarian or ate meat minimally and with respect. The mass production of meat and its inevitable barbarism is keeping people from evolving spiritually, along with pornography, violent films, love of war etc.

Humanity hasnt evolved spiritually in a successful and sustainable way on a world scale up until now, and we are at the lowest level. Thats why this is an amazing time to be alive now on earth because this is the time to evolve, all human civilisations have been leading up to this point. Thats why the decisions we all make on every level are vital.

purplepebble
21-05-2010, 01:35 AM
:D


Having met His Holliness i can honestly say that i have never met a more caring and beautiful human being, his aura is like nothing i have ever seen, what an amazing energy he has.

He has no Ego and radiates love and understanding, unlike the OP :rolleyes:

What if for that moment when you met him, you experienced and aspect of yourself and didn't realize it though? If everything is an illusion?

Why would a supposed spiritual leader rub shoulders with the Pope, Bush, Obama, Himmler and the likes? Because if you are that Spiritual and if you have done your homework, you know what they are all about. So the real question is, does he know what TPTB are all about? Of course he does.

Would people think the same of David Icke and his work if he acquainted himself The Queen ?

purplepebble
21-05-2010, 01:45 AM
i reckon the most successful and sustainable lives of native peoples were either vegetarian or ate meat minimally and with respect. The mass production of meat and its inevitable barbarism is keeping people from evolving spiritually, along with pornography, violent films, love of war etc.
.



I do not consider someone who eats lets say McDonalds less spiritual or evolved than myself, in fact I don't consider myself to be more or less evolved than anyone else at all........and I don't think my decision to eat fish tonight will shift the poles.

impermanence
21-05-2010, 01:52 AM
I've read one of the Dali Lamas books and I found nothing "shill" about him whatsoever, I found him a beautiful, enlightened, almost child like man speaking profound wisdom.


The sooner people on this forum realise EVERYBODY on this planet is here to help them, by playing roles they need to confront, the sooner they'll find peace in their hearts.


Even the "evil" :rolleyes: NWO is helping you, you just can't see it and you're clinging to the Earth illusion.


Everything in life is testing you all the time, testing your reactions, if you keep perceiving through the eyes of fear and reacting negatively, you're inviting more negativity into your life and the world. Challenge yourself for just one week to feel unconditional love towards those you fear / despise most, see how your reality changes, see how the beauty unfolds before your eyes.

LIFE IS AN ILLUSION, when will people here begin to really understand that, stop clinging to your pre-conceived ideals on how you think things should be, and start ACCEPTING the external world as it is. The world illusion is TESTING YOUR REACTIONS, this is the point of our lives, stop reacting negatively!!

Choose to perceive beauty in everything, choose to see EVERYBODY as an angel in disguise, read between the lines, see the TRUTH, not the ILLUSION.

WAKE UP, WAKE UP, WAKE UP......


IT'S AN ILLUSION!!!!


EVERYTHING EXTERNAL IS AS IT SHOULD BE!! All that needs to change is your perceptions!!

northern star
21-05-2010, 01:53 AM
you are consuming the fish's freedom and curtailing its natural time on this earth though

spiritual evolution means never having to impact on another creatures existence on this plane

not meaning to lecture, each to their own, but i think an evolved humanity will look back in astonishment that creatures ate each other for pleasure. So refusing to do so does shift the poles.

northern star
21-05-2010, 01:58 AM
and please, dont present the "vegetables have feelings too" argument :)

fruit, vegetables, herbs and spices were put here by the creator in endless abundance to supply the needs and maintain the health of every human being, without cruelty

purplepebble
21-05-2010, 02:13 AM
you are consuming the fish's freedom and curtailing its natural time on this earth though

spiritual evolution means never having to impact on another creatures existence on this plane

not meaning to lecture, each to their own, but i think an evolved humanity will look back in astonishment that creatures ate each other for pleasure. So refusing to do so does shift the poles.

Native people when hunting say, the fish surrendered it's life, it offered itself as food in turn for evolving....So do I.

impermanence
21-05-2010, 02:15 AM
Native people when hunting say, the fish surrendered it's life, it offered itself as food in turn for evolving....So do I.


That's really interesting, cheers.

purplepebble
21-05-2010, 02:23 AM
LIFE IS AN ILLUSION, when will people here begin to really understand that, stop clinging to your pre-conceived ideals on how you think things should be, and start ACCEPTING the external world as it is. The world illusion is TESTING YOUR REACTIONS, this is the point of our lives, stop reacting negatively!!


Isn't your post a reaction in and of itself though?
An illusion cannot test me. It is an illusion.

northern star
21-05-2010, 02:30 AM
Native people when hunting say, the fish surrendered it's life, it offered itself as food in turn for evolving....So do I.


yes the native goes and interacts with its prey - healthy wild animals...and doesnt deplete the species he's eating - there is a balance. Im on about the mass production of meat where people mindlessly demand and consume without the respect that it was once an animal...its not even real meat, its grown in a factory, pumped with chemicals so it can be stored unnaturally for the most part. Such bad spiritual karma and a block to humanity living in balance and peace on this planet.

impermanence
21-05-2010, 02:36 AM
Isn't your post a reaction in and of itself though?
An illusion cannot test me. It is an illusion.


I didn't react negatively and I didn't intend my post to appear negatively (if it did to you), I offered advice that I believe will bring contentment and joy into peoples lives.

There's nothing wrong with reacting positively, it's reacting out of fear that is the problem, and all negativity stems from fear (accept in the case of sociopaths who have irregular frontal lobes, thus a medical condition).


Of course an illusion can test you, that is, until you recognise it's an illusion!! ;) You see many on this forum believe they see the illusion, yet they fear the end of the world and fear the NWO, they just don't get it, neither does David Icke for that matter.

mrindigo
21-05-2010, 02:44 AM
Bingo!

I sometimes wonder if the Nazi explorers didn't advance their knowledge of flying machines when they visited the far corners of the planet to include Tibet, learning of the Vimanas.

The SS explorers had their hands in many obscurities/oddities. As you can see, I share similar thoughts on the matter. There is much more going on than what's shown at the surface, that's for sure.

People like the Dali Lama are keyholders, and have ties to many different types of people. Clearly the CIA stipend shows some level of involvement with the powers that be. Whether or not he's a 'shill', I can't say beyond reasonable doubt, but I can say he has some sketchy connections. It could simply be a tribute/payment for access to ancient archives. Some of those archives may contain information on ancient technology like the vimanas. Who knows, maybe some of those ancient blue-prints/manuscripts contained information on the emerging technology we're seeing today? I have always found the rapid technological growth from the beginning of the industrial revolution to present times to be rather odd, especially considering how long technology went unchanged in previous eras.

crypticmystic
21-05-2010, 03:04 AM
one thing for sure is...

dali lama hasn't united the interweb nor interworld like carlos casteneda or eckhart tolle et al

perhaps i am missing something....

:)

impermanence
21-05-2010, 03:38 AM
one thing for sure is...

dali lama hasn't united the interweb nor interworld like carlos casteneda or eckhart tolle et al

perhaps i am missing something....

:)



Eckhart Tolle and Carlos Castaneda united the internet and the world?

Perhaps I'm missing something! :p

crypticmystic
21-05-2010, 03:50 AM
Eckhart Tolle and Carlos Castaneda united the internet and the world?

Perhaps I'm missing something! :p

'united' is too strong a word, said in the heat of the moment

i mean to say, in comparison

dali lama hasn't captivated the net like said above

impermanence
21-05-2010, 03:53 AM
'united' is too strong a word, said in the heat of the moment

i mean to say, in comparison

dali lama hasn't captivated the net like said above

I've read both Eckhart Tolle and Carlos Castaneda, I'm a big fan of both. I honestly don't see how either united anything, maybe I just don't frequent the same forums as you. Then again, maybe if you visited other forums you'd see the massive positive effect the Dali Lama has on millions of people around the world.

crypticmystic
21-05-2010, 03:59 AM
I've read both Eckhart Tolle and Carlos Castaneda, I'm a big fan of both. I honestly don't see how either united anything, maybe I just don't frequent the same forums as you. Then again, maybe if you visited other forums you'd see the massive positive effect the Dali Lama has on millions of people around the world.

i am knowledgeable of the toltec and of it's ways...

if you believe in the dali lama

then peace be with you

because it's that which is at peace with you now

...samanvaya...

silvermonkey
21-05-2010, 05:06 AM
listen to your enlightened god-kings words on compassion

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=JlWrpR1tBXA

thesloth
21-05-2010, 05:17 AM
He is just a tool of the NWO. He was paid yearly 180k usd by the CIA.

What else... I always thought he was a fake. To me, his speeches and talks always seemed superficial and lacking depth.

BTW, my wife had an audience with his holiness ages ago before we were married.

impermanence
21-05-2010, 05:57 AM
i am knowledgeable of the toltec and of it's ways...

if you believe in the dali lama

then peace be with you

because it's that which is at peace with you now

...samanvaya...


I don't actually follow the Dali Lama, or any person or dogmas, I just like him, I feel he's a genuinely compassionate man and anything but a shill, I could be wrong but I don't really care. This forum has ridiculous levels of paranoia and fear, members point fingers at everybody but themselves, I just like to play devils advocate and bring some balance. ;)

Peace be with you too brother.

silvermonkey
21-05-2010, 06:21 AM
I don't actually follow the Dali Lama, or any person or dogmas, I just like him, I feel he's a genuinely compassionate man and anything but a shill, I could be wrong but I don't really care. This forum has ridiculous levels of paranoia and fear, members point fingers at everybody but themselves, I just like to play devils advocate and bring some balance. ;)

Peace be with you too brother.


did you take the time to click my link?. if so you would realise this man has no concept of compassion .infact i believe he has no concept of any of the teachings he pretends to stand for

the media gives the impression he is and advocate of religious tolerance and equality . It gives very little to no coverage of the dorje shugden problem though ???. as for equality you only have to do a little research into the history of tibet to understand that no dalai lama has ever embraced equality.

but i agree with you on 2 points. first i dont think hes a shill. i believe he believes he has a birth right to importance and is playing that role. also i doubt he has the intelligence. second point yes people on here are indeed over paranoid

ben87
21-05-2010, 08:07 AM
Peace to the lama, all of you are psyoped, one person says cia money and you all pick up your swords and shields, this is how the pulled of 9/11, by tricking gimps like you.

silvermonkey
21-05-2010, 08:18 AM
Peace to the lama, all of you are psyoped, one person says cia money and you all pick up your swords and shields, this is how the pulled of 9/11, by tricking gimps like you.


gimps like?? please name them. so they may defend themselves.

oh and wernt you on another thread talking about hate???. i can see you have much love to give

merlincove
21-05-2010, 08:36 AM
i am knowledgeable of the toltec and of it's ways...

if you believe in the dali lama

then peace be with you

because it's that which is at peace with you now

...samanvaya...

i dont think so :D

While i have a great deal of respect for the guy, i do wonder why he has not found his place on the world stage and used it to address the tyranny and abuse that is rife in the world and possitioned himself as a major player with a voice for worl peace across the board.

He chooses not to address the state of the planet and the abuse man meters out upon the Mother Earth through destructive attitude in the rain forests as well as the constructs of religion in whose name millions of people have perished. He chooses to side with Obama and Brown when he could appose their regime, perhaps because he hopes his friendship with them will better stay Chinese occupation. Maybe looking at the bigger picture and seeing that Brown and Obama are a part of the problem would allow him and his people to move on energetically and allow the world to understand the rolls that are bveing played by the power elites.

All it needs is a spokesperson, i am saddened that that spokesperson can not be the Dalai Lama.

astrochicken
21-05-2010, 09:43 AM
nah you ain't

he is too agreeable, esp to 'western sympathisers' and it's 'controllers'

a shill for sure, a wankstain that is an abomination to the beliefs of buddhism

i.e. a potential needless killing, a waste of life on the spurt of ecclesiastical acceptance of westernisim


Spot on!


I've no doubts that there is a real Dalai Lama but this guy's not him.. he annoys me just as much as Bono.

hadabusa
21-05-2010, 11:28 AM
Native people when hunting say, the fish surrendered it's life, it offered itself as food in turn for evolving....So do I.

nothing2do with hook,line,sinker.

sure.

native americans also tought they can stop bullets.


yeah, ill make deadly traps(seen CUBE?)and when ppl die,ill say"the fuckers really surrendered"

:cool:

metacomet
21-05-2010, 01:57 PM
What if for that moment when you met him, you experienced and aspect of yourself and didn't realize it though? If everything is an illusion?

Why would a supposed spiritual leader rub shoulders with the Pope, Bush, Obama, Himmler and the likes? Because if you are that Spiritual and if you have done your homework, you know what they are all about. So the real question is, does he know what TPTB are all about? Of course he does.

Would people think the same of David Icke and his work if he acquainted himself The Queen ?

Good post, and logic.

A genuine spiritual master can sense what others are made of. You wouldn't expect them to spend too much time with politicians etc, so either he lacks the sense as a spiritual master or the Lama is simply too passive to avoid contact with them. Or he is one of them.

Spiritual masters are learned, I believe, and not necessarily born.

I have seen documentaries proving that children lama's have been born with pre-birth memories of past lives, but so have many other children.

Even though Lama's can usually prove that they were spiritual masters in past lives, they are still running on the platform of 'divine descent' which is the same that European royalty used to stake their claim on the world. "I am born from Gods / God / Christ" etc. etc. And it's an inherently non-Buddhist agenda to demand respect for whatever reason. Buddha hardly wanted people to take instruction from him, let alone be eager to lead.

Perhaps the Dalai Lama is as opposite to Buddha as Pope Benedict is to Christ? And being the heads of attempted organized religion perhaps their role has been replaced many times by different people, and they are not who we think we are?

metacomet
21-05-2010, 02:04 PM
By the way the DL is coming here next year for a local buddha garden.

http://i47.tinypic.com/t0gutl.jpg

purplepebble
21-05-2010, 05:34 PM
Of course an illusion can test you, that is, until you recognise it's an illusion!! ;) You see many on this forum believe they see the illusion, yet they fear the end of the world and fear the NWO, they just don't get it, neither does David Icke for that matter.




I don't think illusions have conciousness, so I don't think illusions are capable of generating tests specifically designed to test me.

I do agree with the latter part of your post though.
I didn't think your post was negative at all btw.

purplepebble
21-05-2010, 08:37 PM
nothing2do with hook,line,sinker.

sure.

native americans also tought they can stop bullets.


yeah, ill make deadly traps(seen CUBE?)and when ppl die,ill say"the fuckers really surrendered"

:cool:

I haven't seen Cube - too busy fishing. ;)
Just for your info - I was almost murdered by a vegetarian.

tinyint
22-05-2010, 01:50 AM
*nod*

Then there's the interesting connection between the Vimanas mentioned in Buddhist texts and the flying discs the Nazis were supposed to have been developing. Oddly, the space race between the US and Russia happened after operation paperclip.

Agreed. ;)

The following citation from wiki will further shed some light on this.

Harrer became a friend of the young 14th Dalai Lama Tenzin Gyatso, who had summoned him to the Potala Palace after having seen him repeatedly in the streets below the palace through his telescope. He taught the Dalai Lama (who was eleven years old when they met) much about the outside world and effectively served as his tutor, in subjects ranging from geography to English.[7] The Dalai Lama has often credited Harrer's later writings about Tibet as having helped focus international attention on the plight of the Tibetan people after Communist Chinese control.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Heinrich_Harrer


and hollow earth again in this context...

In the 1920s, psychic R. C. ("Doc") Andersen of Georgia, traveling with an old monk in a Stanley Steamer, investigated the Buddhist belief in the land of Agharta. In a Tibetan monastery, he came across an ancient book bound in animal hide which showed an egg-shaped device, an Aghartan car, flying over a high mountain. He also heard that the Dalai Lama, spiritual leader of Tibet, was supposed to be in contact with the King of the World. In Agharta, according to legend, the people have 2 tongues which speak different languages, and strange animals, like birds with teeth, exist. The Aghartans have tremendous power:They can dry up oceans, make trees grow, and resurrect the dead. On the high mountains, it is said, physical evidence has been left: strange footprints in the snow, tablets and inscriptions in Aghartan, and wheel tracks from the cars in which the Aghartans travel.
http://www.trivia-library.com/a/inside-planet-earth-modern-believers-in-hollow-earth-part-2.htm


and reference to the german http://img171.imageshack.us/img171/9149/bmwiiiur8.jpgBMW Flügelrad(flying wheel--today called UFO), Operation Highjump - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia...

"Our interest rightly begins just after your race exploded the first atomic bombs over Hiroshima and Nagasaki, Japan. It was at that alarming time we sent our flying machines, the "Flugelrads", to your surface world to investigate what your race had done."

The King of the Hollow Earth

In the previous chapter I spoke of the greatest cover-up of all time being the fact that extraterrestrials were visiting us from other planets. If that is the biggest cover up of all time, then the second biggest cover-up of all time is the fact that there is a civilization of people living in the center of the earth, whose civilization's name is known as "Agartha". This may be hard for some of you to believe. I know it was for me at first, however, I now have an absolute knowingness of the truth of this.
http://www.iamuniversity.org/iamu/mobile/literature/lodges/spiritual_extraterrestrials_lodge/3669-Agartha-The-Hollow-Earth.html


http://www.gufon.no/hollowearth2.gif

practicaltheorist
22-05-2010, 10:50 AM
nobody spiritually evolved would consider eating meat. If you eat meat then life isnt sacred to you, so how can you in any way be a spiritual leader?

And there goes the spirituality of the native americans, inuites, saami, aborigines, maori, and a dozen other folks that are more spiritually minded than any white man I have ever met out the window...

totalrecall
22-05-2010, 01:57 PM
yes the native goes and interacts with its prey - healthy wild animals...and doesnt deplete the species he's eating - there is a balance. Im on about the mass production of meat where people mindlessly demand and consume without the respect that it was once an animal...its not even real meat, its grown in a factory, pumped with chemicals so it can be stored unnaturally for the most part. Such bad spiritual karma and a block to humanity living in balance and peace on this planet.

I'm with you on the latter, but the former about the native not depleting the species may not be true.

I read a book about the effect of native Americans on the buffalo and it wasn't pretty for the buffalo. They kind of used up the resources around them and moved on. I think on some levels, hunter-gatherer natives were much more attuned to their surroundings as they didn't have the artificial web of modernity around them, such as electronics and electric wiring, metal and plastic boxes to get them from A to B and square box buildings to contain them. The motives to get as much money as possible into bank accounts and put chemicals in their food and on their bodies were also lacking. I'd say the natives had respect for nature as they weren't too far removed from it and knew that nature could also be dangerous and lethal.

However, I don't buy the notion that they were more advanced in their relationship to each other by a long stretch. Hunter-gatherers don't or didn't seem to be friendly towards each other's tribe. There was no unification. Tribes fought other tribes and held generational grievances. Were the native Americans united as one tribe hundreds of years ago? What about the Aborigines? There were many many tribes of Aborigines with completely different languages. They were the opposite of civilised and united with one another. Look at European history of tribes and city states and the wars between them. I mean Lancashire fought against Yorkshire only a few hundred years ago! (allegedly, some say this is bunk though).


So, IMO respect for nature yes, guardians of nature no, respect for each other no.

I know it's easy to see the old way of life as good, modern as bad, but it's not black and white like that. I believe there are some good things about our modern civilisation, some things which can spring board us into the next one. Of course there is a lot of bad stuff as well which needs to be eliminated, but I don't want the baby thrown out with the bathwater.

Instead of living and working in boxes, why not use other geometric shapes? Why use toxic chemicals, why not other "chemicals" or methods which are not only harmless, but beneficial. Why use oil? Why use toxic medicine and dentistry? Why wish to get as much money as possible when only a fairly "lowish" amount is more than enough for a "luxurious" lifestyle. Why use the current frequency and method of electro magnetics and use a totally new one that uses "cold" electricity? Why cement ourselves to negative emotions such as hurt and annoyance and bad habits and think this is who I am. Why not become more godly by detaching these from ourselves?

Or we can say bollocks to it all and just revel in our own dramas. Each to their own.

I believe life is better without dramas, others say life is the drama (for them). So enjoy.

hobo
22-05-2010, 02:48 PM
Interesting question...lets see if he fits any pedo profiles. Usually pedos are not married or have fake marriages, like priests, mike Jackson, cause its probably hard to hide ones sexuality from ones wife. So they don't marry or if they do, they have a really weird marriage.
I don't think the DL is married. So far he fits the profile.

Your "logic" is the same as saying I´ll prove to you that you are a stone: stones cannot fly, you cannot fly; therefore you´re most likely a stone...

merlincove
22-05-2010, 02:55 PM
Your "logic" is the same as saying I´ll prove to you that you are a stone: stones cannot fly, you cannot fly; therefore you´re most likely a stone...

Was my point exactly, but you managed to word it much better :D

Logic = if i believe it then it must be true :eek:

She's a witch! - YouTube

hobo
22-05-2010, 02:59 PM
nobody spiritually evolved would consider eating meat. If you eat meat then life isnt sacred to you, so how can you in any way be a spiritual leader?

It´s not that black and white. The life of a carrot or a cabbage is also life. Furthermore, many animal/insect lives are lost during the process of cultivating and harvesting the "spiritually correct" vegetable/grain crops.

aronia
22-05-2010, 07:33 PM
Anyone that`s promoted by The Establishment like Dalai Lama is - is a shill

A Jesuit stooge or Temporal Coadjutor.

A Temporal Coadjutor is one there is usefull for them.

tinyint
22-05-2010, 07:36 PM
Anyone that`s promoted by The Establishment like Dalai Lama is - is a shill

A Jesuit stooge or Temporal Coadjutor.

A Temporal Coadjutor is one there is usefull for them.

:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Are you a scripted bot?

aronia
22-05-2010, 08:09 PM
:rolleyes::rolleyes::rolleyes:

Are you a scripted bot?

No i`m not - im very much a real person. :):):)