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dontbeafraid
20-05-2010, 12:54 AM
I know some members have had "experiences" with mind control cults, and other "groups, and would like to ask you 2 questions:

What are some "must haves" to be a successful cult? Such as, "every member has to have a crew cut."

What are some of the "bad things" about a cult? Such as, "having to wake up before sunrise."

:)

planet murderer
20-05-2010, 01:03 AM
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/look-it-way/200906/how-start-cult
http://www.startyourowncult.com/
http://www.mudrashram.com/Howtostartyourowncult1.html
http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1296&Itemid=5

Good luck

dontbeafraid
20-05-2010, 01:07 AM
http://www.psychologytoday.com/blog/look-it-way/200906/how-start-cult
http://www.startyourowncult.com/
http://www.mudrashram.com/Howtostartyourowncult1.html
http://www.culthelp.info/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=1296&Itemid=5

Good luck

Thanks, do you have any personal cult stories to tell related to my 2 questions above?

planet murderer
20-05-2010, 01:16 AM
Fortunately i don't have any personal cult experiences.
If you look at the 4rth link there is a video witch covers it pretty good. :)

dontbeafraid
20-05-2010, 01:18 AM
Fortunately i don't have any personal cult experiences.
If you look at the 4rth link there is a video witch covers it pretty good. :)

I am working my way thru the links. The first link was pretty good. I am checking the others....:)

mayorofcydonia
22-05-2010, 02:36 AM
This is a nice, easy introduction on how to start a cult and the techniques you should employ to make it successful,

Mind Control Cults - YouTube

dontbeafraid
02-07-2010, 09:13 PM
After researching what cults really are, they are just groups held together by mind control, they don't even have any goals other than keeping the cult alive.

The Moon Matrix Corp.
I have come to the conclusion, it is better to start a non-profit corperation. Like churches or grants. One goal will be to amass thrown away electronics and recycle them to aquire the necessary electronic parts and metals needed for a moon mission.
The other goal of the moon matrix corp. will be to supply jobs to people who will be our workers. So we can concentrate on the mission.

I think the first mission will have to be to send up a satellite to orbit and recon the surface of the moon. Send back data and pictures.

Then once we have actual real data, not that fake nasa world order propaganda, we can plan for a manned mission.

Moon Matrix Corp. Goal... powering down the moon matrix, for a brighter tomorrow.:)

The first 500 members who join get to wear gold moon matrix space suits . Everyone after that, silver.

baelsfire
02-07-2010, 09:35 PM
Im in!

energi
02-07-2010, 09:44 PM
I know some members have had "experiences" with mind control cults, and other "groups, and would like to ask you 2 questions:

What are some "must haves" to be a successful cult? Such as, "every member has to have a crew cut."

What are some of the "bad things" about a cult? Such as, "having to wake up before sunrise."

:)

Perform an initiation where there is sex involved. And retain some of your cult's knowledge to those who increase their rank within the group.

Another important factor to consider is the amount of people - successful cults are small and within closed circles.

dontbeafraid
02-07-2010, 09:55 PM
Perform an initiation where there is sex involved. And retain some of your cult's knowledge to those who increase their rank within the group.

Another important factor to consider is the amount of people - successful cults are small and within closed circles.

Sex is human, of course sex is involved. Only a nutcase would go into space and not have sex in weightlessness and with a view of the universe out the porthole.

I was thinking, 500 main mission members, gold members, who we get on the surface of the moon. And about 500,000 workers who collect old electronic parts and run the smelting ovens. With todays unemployment, it will be easy getting that many people to work.

And the way the moon matrix plays peoples egos and turns them into consumers, we will have a surplus of broken electronics to recycle. And since the people who made those electronics are curropt and greedy and always add one cheap part that breaks, we can almost be sure we have good used electronic parts.

We will be using the moon matrix against itself, and power it down. Its just a computer, it can't outsmart mankind.

dontbeafraid
02-07-2010, 10:00 PM
And in case there are some of you mind controlled people out there interested in this. But say, "it took 10 years for a whole nation to get a couple guys on the moon".
That was the con to keep everyone from trying. Tptb want it all for themselves and are masters of putting on a show. I estimate it will take about 2 years if we started tonight.

baelsfire
02-07-2010, 10:07 PM
Ive got a cupboard full of faulty toaster, leaky kettles and broken phones i can donate to the cause!

Also, the cult needs a good name. It can have an inner name (the secret name) and an outer name

dontbeafraid
02-07-2010, 10:20 PM
Ive got a cupboard full of faulty toaster, leaky kettles and broken phones i can donate to the cause!

Also, the cult needs a good name. It can have an inner name (the secret name) and an outer name

Bro, I am kind of serious about this. I have started and ran sucessful businesses before. And this one is a natural. Do you know who one of the richest woman in the world is, a lady who recycles old paper.

But if you are not going to be needing those broken things, like the toaster, leaky kettles and broken phones, just put them into the Moon Matrix Corp, recycling bin that will be in your neighborhood soon...hopefully.

And since we are not in it for the money, but for the mission, and supplying jobs to half a million people, we are going to be a pretty powerful lobying group. And politicians are curropt, and usually cheap, so it won't cost much to buy alot of them.

baelsfire
02-07-2010, 10:45 PM
Im not kidding either! We live in a throw-away society and i agree about all the crap electrical "goods" that are pushed onto us.

Just two days ago i was at the local council trying to get information on the recycling situation here. Ive heard, but not verified it yet, that the masses of recycling collected is nt beign recycled its just being stacked up in warehouses.

In the past year ive gone through several toasters and kettles and countless mobile phones, keyboards and mouse.. i dont feel good about throwing it out in the trash so it has all accumulated.

Want to know what schemes are operating here which take this equipment and re-use it? NONE. Which i think is unacceptable. Im all for an initiative on this issue, and well travelling to the moon is on my "to-do" list so you are combining several things im very much into.

dontbeafraid
02-07-2010, 11:42 PM
Ok Bfire.
I have been observing the trucks that haul the electronics away at my local recycling place, and have already asked around what they pay per ton to the city to get the contract to haul the electronics away. It would be easy on my side here in Germany to get in on it.

I have a business plan on how to get started at no investment or loans or any of those reptilian braintraps. It does require some basic electronic repair knowledge, online there are many manuals on electronics. Even a monkey can do it.

Your side is more problamatic because your country is pretty curropt. But it is important that you start doing some footwork. Find out who is hauling the electronics away. Or are your people not advanced enough yet to recycle like we do here in Germany? If they really are just dumping the stuff in the rivers or woods, then this is going to be even easier than one can ever imagine.

baelsfire
02-07-2010, 11:48 PM
Britain is like a glorious decadent palace which you approach in awe.. only to find once you enter through the door its actually a giant cardboard façade, with a whole load of rubbish behind it.

I'll get onto the footwork, people leave fridges and washing machines and tellies out on the street. Its that easy to get parts - drive up and down roads.

We will need a load of magnets, if i can suggest we build gravity discs because rocket propelled craft are not very eco-friendly.

dusthead
03-07-2010, 12:08 AM
I know some members have had "experiences" with mind control cults, and other "groups, and would like to ask you 2 questions:

What are some "must haves" to be a successful cult? Such as, "every member has to have a crew cut."

What are some of the "bad things" about a cult? Such as, "having to wake up before sunrise."

:)

My family were abused and manipulated by a cult for many years. It took them a very long time to recover. Some still carry the mental scars. We are free of them now and thankfully most of us lead happy lives.

I would say a 'successful cult' is one that can attain total dominance over it's members to a point where they will even lay down their own lives. The leaders of the cult will also make some sort of financial profit from their members - a 10% tax on members' income is incurred in some cults. Members of other orders are simply encouraged to hand over everything they own.

Members should also be indoctrinated to an extent where they will go to desperate measures to recruit new members. This may include sexual favours. All members will be encouraged to see the rest of society as inferior and contact with outsiders will be discouraged except in cases of new recruits. Interest in mainstream education would be discouraged. Considerable knowledge of brainwashing techniques would be essential for any cult leader (remember to destroy their confidence first). Oh! And write your own bible and back story. Make up any old tosh. Tell your followers that God speaks through you (or aliens if you like) and that your word is final - it says so in the sacred scriptures. Either that or claim to be a reincarnation of someone like Jesus. They'll buy anything once you have destroyed their lives to the point where you are the only thing left. Works a treat.

In cases such as the one above I hardly need to point what the 'bad things' are!

Are you sure you want to do this?

dontbeafraid
03-07-2010, 12:27 AM
Britain is like a glorious decadent palace which you approach in awe.. only to find once you enter through the door its actually a giant cardboard façade, with a whole load of rubbish behind it.

I'll get onto the footwork, people leave fridges and washing machines and tellies out on the street. Its that easy to get parts - drive up and down roads.

We will need a load of magnets, if i can suggest we build gravity discs because rocket propelled craft are not very eco-friendly.
Whatever you do, don't go taking fridges or tvs. That part of recycling costs a fortune!! We want to get to the moon not clean up Britian.

It works like this in the beginning. First find out who is hauling the electronics away. Do it in the wealthiest area near you. Location is everything. Go to the wealthy recycling area.
Then find out what they pay the city per ton. Once you have that information make an appointment with the manager of the warehouse where the electronics are taken down into pieces or ground up.
Wear a pair of overalls and have a plastic hardhat, both with a logo on it of the Moon Matrix Corp. on it. It does'nt have to look fancy, you can make it easily, MM Corp. would be best for now.
Don't go to the interview looking like a scrub off the streets, shave and smell good. You have to look like you do this all the time and work in a dangerous place, like they do. Don't look out of place. Observe what the workers are wearing and the bosses, fit in. Check them out before you actually go to the appointment. If you can borrow a nice handheld 2-way radio, clip that on your belt. And carry an old clipboard with a bunch of your water bills or electric bills on it. Stuff with the towns logo on it. Its a prop, you are not trying to make them think you are from the state or anything, its just for when he looks you up and down to check you out.
Then you go to their warehouse and ask if you can buy some of their electronics for recycling by the ton. Trust me, they pay nothing for it. Handle with him, I can't teach that in a thread, you have to know how to do business. Ask a few bucks over what they pay and start from there. And tell them you plan on regularly buying,probably weekly, but at the moment are working out the details and can't say exactly how much on a regular basis you want.

Once that is all set up, you have to start picking out the good items, like laptops, radios, anything that looks like it was cared for and people would buy on ebay. Because that is how we are going to make the start capital.
This business starts up fast, so you have to be ready to invest time and energy. And be in a position to make the next step, and it is a big one. But first, just getting it rolling is enough in one bite.

the propulsion system is not going to be difficult. TPTB squash everything so easily because moon matrix mind control people can't work together properly. And the system is designed to alienate an individual. I know how to get around that.
We can find a few "youtube scientists" who would jump at the chance to work for the Moon Matrix Corp. and design a craft that is based on electromagnetics. Real scientists are too brainwashed to even design a flashlight properly. Youtube is where the real scientific genisuses are in this world.

dontbeafraid
03-07-2010, 12:40 AM
My family were abused and manipulated by a cult for many years. It took them a very long time to recover. Some still carry the mental scars. We are free of them now and thankfully most of us lead happy lives.

I would say a 'successful cult' is one that can attain total dominance over it's members to a point where they will even lay down their own lives. The leaders of the cult will also make some sort of financial profit from their members - a 10% tax on members' income is incurred in some cults. Members of other orders are simply encouraged to hand over everything they own.

Members should also be indoctrinated to an extent where they will go to desperate measures to recruit new members. This may include sexual favours. All members will be encouraged to see the rest of society as inferior and contact with outsiders will be discouraged except in cases of new recruits. Interest in mainstream education would be discouraged. Considerable knowledge of brainwashing techniques would be essential for any cult leader (remember to destroy their confidence first). Oh! And write your own bible and back story. Make up any old tosh. Tell your followers that God speaks through you (or aliens if you like) and that your word is final - it says so in the sacred scriptures. Either that or claim to be a reincarnation of someone like Jesus. They'll buy anything once you have destroyed their lives to the point where you are the only thing left. Works a treat.

In cases such as the one above I hardly need to point what the 'bad things' are!

Are you sure you want to do this?
your family went thru exactly what 99% of the world is currently in. This planet is a cult. And people die on it all the time for paper money. But I hope your family has recovered and are doing well.

am I sure I want to start a moon matrix corp? If enough people are interested in it yes, I can't do it alone or with 20 people, it will take a few hundred thousand. But I have to give it a try, one can't pin the date down to 2012 when the earth changes. it could be 2016 ...who knows for sure.

I am not interested in mind control, or any other kind of control over the members. I just was interested in the perks, that make a person happy enough to stay in the group or join a group that has a goal. And money is the wrong reason, I do not want 500 moon matrix astronauts on the moon looking for money on the moon mission.
I want to attract people who are interested in reaching the moon. And it would have to be someone who was as devoted to the mission as the people who one sees in a cult are devoted to their guru.

Because only that type of devotion will make the whole thing sucessful. I did think about just using what the moon matrix uses, money, to get people motivated, but that type of person would not have the right stuff.

dontbeafraid
03-07-2010, 12:53 AM
We could probably recruit moon matrix astronauts at the David Icke lectures while they are waiting in line to go in. From the looks of the crowds that go there we could probably run a manned Mars mission parallel to the moon mission. An organization is only as good as its members. And those people are quality.

And an added bonus recruiting for the moon matrix corp at the DI lectures would be we would'nt have a bunch of masons or reptiles on the missions wearing aprons. Its no wonder it took nasa so long to get into orbit. Look who they have as members and sent on missions, masons and probably reptile infected mission control managers. I would'nt climb into one of their spaceships, one would never really know if it was planned to blow up on some masonic date.

dusthead
03-07-2010, 08:38 PM
I forgot to mention.

When my family were under the control of a cult I learned the most important lesson of leading a successful cult.

Always, ALWAYS target potential recruits. They are easy to spot. Most of them will be misfits, or people who feel they don't belong in society. A lot of them will have been very hurt by something or someone and be looking for an escape. It is possible to provide these people with a 'secure lifestyle' outside of normal everyday humdrum society.

Basically you look for a gap in the market and fill it.

A lot of people who join cults are very often unloved, unsupported or unfairly rejected by society. I saw many of them destroyed. It was very very sad. In fact it was horrible.

Reading your intentions, it doesn't sound like you are trying to form a cult, more of a 'group', 'society', 'club' or 'gang'.

Don't tar yourself with the word cult, if your intentions are noble.