The Next 911 and my two other predictions!

[alleendewaarheid]

I believe everyone has the ability to see the future. I predicted the Amsterdam Exchanges (AEX) falling to 300 by October 2001 two years before it happened. I also get feelings about other things. Here are my predictions to happen by the end of 2008

1) The next 911 will be government made spaceships landing in Los Angeles. The illuminati will hope to use that to get the populace to rally for government protection and a further erosion of civil liberties throughout the world. I believe it will backfire due to expanded consciousness from the ascension.

2) Ron Paul will be the next president of the USA.

3) The truth about 911 will come out before end next year.:eek:

I'm usually pretty good with my predictions so we shall see.

Anyone else with their own predictions?

[iro_]

I think you couldnt be more wrong with any of them

maybe you should ask for a spiritual refund ;)

[gorgeousbutterfly]

what excatly will happen in los angeles?

[rossus]

http://www.wereldomroep.nl/images/assets/10919047

I think Ron Paul might make it for president too.
the other predictions i don't see happening.

[jaanus]

Nothing I could compete with you. I DO feel, however, that we are living in a very interesting time and if you are right and all this happens before the end of the 2008, then I can't imagine what the following years would bring.

[alleendewaarheid]

I'll bet you $10,000 911 truth will come out by end next year!

[tinmenace]

I believe everyone has the ability to see the future. I predicted the Amsterdam Exchanges (AEX) falling to 300 by October 2001 two years before it happened. I also get feelings about other things. Here are my predictions to happen by the end of 2008

1) The next 911 will be government made spaceships landing in Los Angeles. The illuminati will hope to use that to get the populace to rally for government protection and a further erosion of civil liberties throughout the world. I believe it will backfire due to expanded consciousness from the ascension.

2) Ron Paul will be the next president of the USA.

3) The truth about 911 will come out before end next year.:eek:

I'm usually pretty good with my predictions so we shall see.

Anyone else with their own predictions?

Interesting. Time will tell. :)

[tinmenace]

By the way, are you Afrikaans?

[alleendewaarheid]

Kissinger had mentioned long ago that "one day spaceships would be landing in Los Angeles".

I believe all UFOs seen out there are actually only government made UFOs.

What i believe they will do is have many government spaceships fly over LA and fire onto the ground and scare americans. I'm sure you'll see great coverage on the TV to really try and scare the crap out of people.

[alleendewaarheid]

No I'm american but have lived in amsterdam 11 years and vancouver, canada for 4 years. Currently I'm living in Florida.

[tinmenace]

No I'm american but have lived in amsterdam 11 years and vancouver, canada for 4 years. Currently I'm living in Florida.

Ah, ok, so the name is Dutch. Afrikaans is so similar.

[alleendewaarheid]

alleendewaarheid = only the truth!

[tinmenace]

alleendewaarheid = only the truth!

Right! :)

[joss classey]

i predict an increase in death, violence, disease, crime, police brutality, paedophilia, general public fear, alcoholism, drug abuse, religious fanaticism and suicide

i also predict an increasing division between the 'sane' and 'insane'. i predict plenty of 'messiahs' and an even larger division between extreme forms of unconditional love and demented hate

i predict a bumpy ride for the next 4 years where i predict a transcendental explosion of self-awareness

[iro_]

is this bryanamsterdam?

god help us, thought you had ascended

[chris]

I hate predictions they are usually done by researchers to get ahead and creditability and despite what they say, these people make many predictions and conveniently forget all those which they get wrong. These predictions are 99.99% wrong and create a lot of paranoia and tension. That billion dollar put option on the US economy crashing 30% in three weeks was the last one to piss me off but I’m glad that yours are absolutely ridiculous and seeing as you’re a no one you have no weight whatsoever. So knock yourself out...

I predict that we will all forget by 2008 that you have made these predictions.

[tintin]

is this bryanamsterdam?

god help us, thought you had ascended

Hi IROBOY
How are you my friend?

Cruise here.

[lapis]

I've mentioned on another (ufo) thread that I too feel the US will at some point in the next 3 years probably create a holographic image of mass UFOs flying low overhead and probably also landing out in rural areas in the USA. (Many of us have been having repeated dreams of this over the past few years which I believe is the first layer of this USA manufactured electronic con.) This would be, like alleendewaarheid said, another attempt to unite the masses against this new American Made fake alien "threat". Discernment will become increasingly necessary for people still deep in layers of numerous illusions of the old lower world.

On the other hand here's a quote from Barbara Hand Clow's latest The Mayan Code - Time Acceleration and Awakening the World Mind 2007, which I also think will need to happen just to stop the hard core idiots and open their Hearts.

"During the Fifth Night, it will be obvious to everyone that the Jewish state necessitates a Palestinian state. I predict that, just for sheer survival, the ancient brothers in Israel will make peace between August 15 and November 13, 2008, just because nobody will be able to stomach the violence anymore, and because countries outside of Israel will be so preoccupied with their own problems that they will no longer be involved. Also, as you will see in a moment, it is possible that an outside agency, one that is extraterrestrial, will force Israel and Plaestine to make peace...."

"Night Five" of the Mayan calendar begins on November 19th 2007 and runs through November 12th, 2008.

[chris]

Hi IROBOY
How are you my friend?

Cruise here.

Hey Cruise and Iro, this is Christophe from The Forum:D

[tinmenace]

I've mentioned on another (ufo) thread that I too feel the US will at some point in the next 3 years probably create a holographic image of mass UFOs flying low overhead and probably also landing out in rural areas in the USA. (Many of us have been having repeated dreams of this over the past few years which I believe is the first layer of this USA manufactured electronic con.) This would be, like alleendewaarheid said, another attempt to unite the masses against this new American Made fake alien "threat". Discernment will become increasingly necessary for people still deep in layers of numerous illusions of the old lower world.



Yes, David has said the same thing. Also, a holographic coming of Christ, or whatever deity is relevant to that region.

[tintin]

Hey Cruise and Iro, this is Christophe from The Forum:D

look chris,

this FREAK went after me time and time
again.

I never Knew why.
But when I saw all the fuss abobout the
old forum and the SHUTDOWN, i knew exactly
why this IROBOY was going after me all the time.

[iro_]

Hi IROBOY
How are you my friend?

Cruise here.

er hello, why are you talking crap about me on other threads here?
:eek:

hope it makes you feel big! peace crusie! ;)

[iro_]

Hey Cruise and Iro, this is Christophe from The Forum:D

hi chris - are you on illusions?

[alleendewaarheid]

someone mentioned the ascension...the ascension is very real...

i'm what they call a "1st waver"...basically have had many physical symptoms that were tied to transmuting energies and bringing in the new energies...

since we've passed september 2006 things have changed remarkably...there is no going back now and we've crossed the threshold of no return..

with the influx of the feminine energies this planet now is balancing...ascension, in the end, is about balance as well expanded consciousness...the 4th wavers (the ordinary people on the planet) have begun recently their shift and will become more aware as they move higher and higher....only love and truth will prevail.

the illuminati have played their role well but now there time of power is over...with the amount of light on this planet lower vibrating energies can no longer dominate...with the higher energies duality will cease and a planet of joy and beauty is on its way.

now that i have 5th dimensional expanded consciousness and awareness there comes with that an inner "knowingness" about things including events....i also can sense energetically what is happening on the planet and also can sense people's level of vibration.

i could go on and on but let's just say that everyone on the planet will have what i have now..so many abilities...and they will "see" with expanded consciousness what is truth. it's that simple!

[neutron flux]

alleendewaarheid, are you bryanamsterdam per chance?

[tinmenace]

someone mentioned the ascension...the ascension is very real...

i'm what they call a "1st waver"...basically have had many physical symptoms that were tied to transmuting energies and bringing in the new energies...

since we've passed september 2006 things have changed remarkably...there is no going back now and we've crossed the threshold of no return..

with the influx of the feminine energies this planet now is balancing...ascension, in the end, is about balance as well expanded consciousness...the 4th wavers (the ordinary people on the planet) have begun recently their shift and will become more aware as they move higher and higher....only love and truth will prevail.

the illuminati have played their role well but now there time of power is over...with the amount of light on this planet lower vibrating energies can no longer dominate...with the higher energies duality will cease and a planet of joy and beauty is on its way.

now that i have 5th dimensional expanded consciousness and awareness there comes with that an inner "knowingness" about things including events....i also can sense energetically what is happening on the planet and also can sense people's level of vibration.

i could go on and on but let's just say that everyone on the planet will have what i have now..so many abilities...and they will "see" with expanded consciousness what is truth. it's that simple!





You're exactly right. Do you have a blog?

Here is the LINK (http://lapis.spiritual-nature.com/) to the blog of Lapis, who started an ascension thread HERE. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3883)

Of course there are agents all over the forum that will argue the ascension, or start "anti-ascension" threads, but that is to be expected I suppose.

Welcome to the forum! :)

[chris]

You're exactly right. Do you have a blog?

Here is the LINK (http://lapis.spiritual-nature.com/) to the blog of Lapis, who started an ascension thread HERE. (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=3883)

Of course there are agents all over the forum that will argue the ascension, or start "anti-ascension" threads, but that is to be expected I suppose.

Welcome to the forum! :)





Was that post a joke?

Are you really saying people are being paid money to come on here to say we are not ascending? Anyway, it's usually those that think they are ascending because they are having vivid dreams are the ones that are also saying we don't need to do anything about the NWO because the world is an illusion. The NWO love those types.

It just seems like you rather make a paranoid assertion simply because you don't want to face reality.

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/emotes/masterbaiter.jpg


Was that post a joke?

If you perceive it as a joke, then it's a joke, isn't it? :rolleyes:

Are you really saying people are being paid money to come on here to say we are not ascending?

No, I don't believe I mentioned money at all, did I? And, everyone is ascending, so what you getting your knickers in knot for?


Anyway, it's usually those that think they are ascending because they are having vivid dreams are the ones that are also saying we don't need to do anything about the NWO because the world is an illusion.

What ARE you so worked up about? Calm the fuck down, Daisy.

It just seems like you rather make a paranoid assertion simply because you don't want to face reality.

What reality? YOUR version of reality? Uh, no thanks. I have my own reality based on MY life experience and MY spiritual nature. It's personal to each person. Mmmmkay?

[joss classey]

watch out for the new-age bullshit

[tinmenace]

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/emotes/boring.png

[joss classey]

http://img503.imageshack.us/img503/9114/hmmmj3.jpg

[tinmenace]

I guess you're trying to get this into the Rant Room?

So silly, and useless really.

PS. Your sentence is nearly up ;)

[joss classey]

look! he's enlightened! he's hanging from the tree of knowledge

[Mo0n5tar]

I go through ascensions and descensions all the time, just part of the natural cycle of life.

[tinmenace]

look! he's enlightened! he's hanging from the tree of knowledge

You're such a troll. You've given me inspiration for my next troll post. Thanks ;)


Nuff said. I won't respond to you any further. Troll.

[alleendewaarheid]

thanks tinmenace!

it's understandable that there are those that "poo-poo" the idea of ascension.

it has to do with a person's level of awareness.

obviously you have a higher level of awareness then those that "poo-poo" it.

when i read their comments i just tell myself that they are on their own path and aren't ready for it.

i'm just trying to say that they're right where they choose to be at this moment...they don't understand the ascension so obviously when people don't understand things they "poo-poo" it.

i know with the symptoms, expanded awareness and other new abilities i have (as well as other 1st wavers i know) that the ascension is very real

in the end it really doesn't matter what other people feel about it...it's irrelevant really, isn't it?

everyone on this planet will be ascending to 5D..those that choose not to will leave..it's gonna happen whether they are aware or not..

[alleendewaarheid]

wanted to say one other thing...the best thing you can do is ignore those type of people..don't give them energy..when you give them energy you give your power away.

:)

[tinmenace]

thanks tinmenace!

it's understandable that there are those that "poo-poo" the idea of ascension.

it has to do with a person's level of awareness.

obviously you have a higher level of awareness then those that "poo-poo" it.

when i read their comments i just tell myself that they are on their own path and aren't ready for it.

i'm just trying to say that they're right where they choose to be at this moment...they don't understand the ascension so obviously when people don't understand things they "poo-poo" it.

i know with the symptoms, expanded awareness and other new abilities i have (as well as other 1st wavers i know) that the ascension is very real

in the end it really doesn't matter what other people feel about it...it's irrelevant really, isn't it?

everyone on this planet will be ascending to 5D..those that choose not to will leave..it's gonna happen whether they are aware or not..

Precisely.

Arguing with the rest of us is not going to change the ascension process. It's happening, whether they like it or not.

It's that simple.

:)

[alleendewaarheid]

also wanted to say what they're doing we like to call "ENERGY FEEDING"...don't allow them to feed off of you..just ignore them:)

[tinmenace]

wanted to say one other thing...the best thing you can do is ignore those type of people..don't give them energy..when you give them energy you give your power away.

:)

You're right! I just like to mock them, every now and again. I like to remind them that there IS resistance to their darkness.

[tinmenace]

also wanted to say what they're doing we like to call "ENERGY FEEDING"...don't allow them to feed off of you..just ignore them:)


Ok, I'll work harder at it.

Thank you :)

[abrilliantone]

You're right! I just like to mock them, every now and again. I like to remind them that there IS resistance to their darkness.






:)

[joss classey]

obviously you might want to consider ascending to adulthood first

i have absolutely no problem with the awakening and spirituality

i just hate it when people present it like some sort of hierarchical system

this is the david icke forum after all and i believe if you have a look in his books he will talk about this in terms of the 'new age' program

forget the '5th dimension'

why not unlock the 'infinite dimension'?

[lookfar]

wanted to say one other thing...the best thing you can do is ignore those type of people..don't give them energy..when you give them energy you give your power away.

:)

Hi elleendewaarheid.

That's a very true comment, I totally agree.

Good thread & welcome to the forum :)

[alleendewaarheid]

tinmenace,

i wouldn't categorize them as "dark"...they just are lacking awareness..."dark" just means absence of light..

it's better not to separate people into "us and them" categories...we are all one, aren't we?

[alleendewaarheid]

thanks lookfar!

[abrilliantone]

obviously you might want to consider ascending to adulthood first

i have absolutely no problem with the awakening and spirituality

i just hate it when people present it like some sort of hierarchical system

this is the david icke forum after all and i believe if you have a look in his books he will talk about this in terms of the 'new age' program

forget the '5th dimension'

why not unlock the 'infinite dimension'?

:)

[abrilliantone]

tinmenace,

i wouldn't categorize them as "dark"...they just are lacking awareness..."dark" just means absence of light..

it's better not to separate people into "us and them" categories...we are all one, aren't we?

:)

[alleendewaarheid]

joss,

actually..it is hierarchical...not everyone leaves this reality and goes to 12D

to go "higher" requires more awareness...

for example..myself...i know i'm come from the angelic realms which is 9D.....i chose to come here and help during ascension...i already knew i was different at a young age..i "saw" things that adults around me didn't...i had a knowingness already as a kid and didn't "buy into the matrix" as most people did..

expanded consciousness is about awareness...with more awareness comes spinning faster and vibrating higher..

it just has to do with energy...we all are indeed one but that doesn't mean everyone who leaves this planet go straight up to 9D with me...get my drift?

[Mo0n5tar]

So now anyone you disagree with is an energy vampire?

What ever happened to understanding through discussion?

p.s "for example..myself...i know i'm come from the angelic realms which is 9D"

WTF??

This just sounds a bit much for me, you come from where?

[tinmenace]

tinmenace,

i wouldn't categorize them as "dark"...they just are lacking awareness..."dark" just means absence of light..

it's better not to separate people into "us and them" categories...we are all one, aren't we?

I'm not sure about that, truth be told. There are a few things that don't resonate with me. Maybe I'm just not ready to understand it yet.

I have tried to embrace the "oneness with others" idea and you'll even see that in some of my early posts, but I have to admit that it is not something that I'm fully comfortable with. Maybe in a different context to what I'm processing, maybe eventually I'll understand. But, I have never felt "oneness", and so I cannot pretend to embrace something if it doesn't feel right.

[alleendewaarheid]

tinmenace,

i understand and wouldn't want you to force feelings..

i'm just trying to say that your reacting to them has more to do with you than them..do you understand?

i feel nothing but love towards them..because in the end they are me and i am them...

i'm just saying you could look at them differently..you know suggest an automatic thought to yourself when you come across those types of people like "they're on their own path" or "they just aren't aware"..something to counteract their responses which will bounce their responses right back to them..

like i said..when you give it energy you make it bigger...

i know a technique for people who have difficulty with others and it does work...for example..if you have a problem at work with someone...picture a mirror between you and that person with the mirror facing that person...you'd be surprised how their "lower vibrational" energy will just bounce back to them...

thoughts create matter..so send them thoughts of love...that's more effective!

[joss classey]

it just has to do with energy...we all are indeed one but that doesn't mean everyone who leaves this planet go straight up to 9D with me...get my drift?

honestly, no.

[tinmenace]

tinmenace,

i understand and wouldn't want you to force feelings..

i'm just trying to say that your reacting to them has more to do with you than them..do you understand?

i feel nothing but love towards them..because in the end they are me and i am them...

i'm just saying you could look at them differently..you know suggest an automatic thought to yourself when you come across those types of people like "they're on their own path" or "they just aren't aware"..something to counteract their responses which will bounce their responses right back to them..

like i said..when you give it energy you make it bigger...

i know a technique for people who have difficulty with others and it does work...for example..if you have a problem at work with someone...picture a mirror between you and that person with the mirror facing that person...you'd be surprised how their "lower vibrational" energy will just bounce back to them...

thoughts create matter..so send them thoughts of love...that's more effective!




Thanks, I'll try that.

I look forward to seeing this in practice here on the forum.


:)

[joss classey]

i'll make it easy for you

regardless of anything that can be argued or disagreed on

at the heart of it i don't really care

because i know

i know one thing. we are all in this together

and regardless of superficial differences / beliefs,

i love you all :)

[alleendewaarheid]

tinmenace,

it's the group consciousness on the forum that will decide how this forum operates.

the best way is to lead by example...

[alleendewaarheid]

joss,

you're right...we're all in this together..there is no separation...

the power of love is what will change this planet in the end.

the illuminati have held power by keeping us divided and in fear...keeping us in duality.

once we learn that we are all one and when we treat others with love we are actually treating ourselves to love.

like i said, i am you and you are me...

the physics of the hierarchy is not important...it's just how energy works..but it doesn't lead to separation because there is none..

[tinmenace]

tinmenace,

it's the group consciousness on the forum that will decide how this forum operates.

the best way is to lead by example...

I'll watch to see how you do it.

It'll be a great thing to learn in the TRUE sense, not on a superficial level. It's a personal journey, but I look forward to it.

Thanks again.

[sunyatta60]

are the ones that are also saying we don't need to do anything about the NWO because the world is an illusion. The NWO love those types.


Can you prove the World is real Then?

[Mo0n5tar]

simply fascinating..

[Anders Lindman]

I believe everyone has the ability to see the future. I predicted the Amsterdam Exchanges (AEX) falling to 300 by October 2001 two years before it happened. I also get feelings about other things. Here are my predictions to happen by the end of 2008

1) The next 911 will be government made spaceships landing in Los Angeles. The illuminati will hope to use that to get the populace to rally for government protection and a further erosion of civil liberties throughout the world. I believe it will backfire due to expanded consciousness from the ascension.

2) Ron Paul will be the next president of the USA.

3) The truth about 911 will come out before end next year.:eek:

I'm usually pretty good with my predictions so we shall see.

Anyone else with their own predictions?

I would only bet on Ron Paul as the next president.

I have a prediction. The oil price will reach above $200 per barrel before the end of 2007! :eek: :D The oil price is probably heavily manipulated, still I think they will not be able to hold the oil price down.

[joss classey]

simply fascinating..

entertaining is it not?

we are but a zoo in essence

[chris]

are the ones that are also saying we don't need to do anything about the NWO because the world is an illusion. The NWO love those types.


Can you prove the World is real Then?

I don't want to it to be proven that if we don't do something because we are pretending to ascend that we will all be pretending to ascend in dept camps.

[abrilliantone]

joss,

you're right...we're all in this together..there is no separation...

the power of love is what will change this planet in the end.

the illuminati have held power by keeping us divided and in fear...keeping us in duality.

once we learn that we are all one and when we treat others with love we are actually treating ourselves to love.

like i said, i am you and you are me...

the physics of the hierarchy is not important...it's just how energy works..but it doesn't lead to separation because there is none..

:)

[alleendewaarheid]

sunyatta60,

with ascension and expansion of consciousness by everyone on the planet will lead naturally to the demise of the current system of domination and control.

people will begin to wake up and see naturally...that's what the ascension will do..it will awaken all the "sleepyheads" on the planet.

also with ascension you vibrate at a higher frequency and spin faster. only truth and love prevail in the new energy. the illuminati will naturally lose power because of the amount of light on the planet...

you can't have illuminati "lower vibrational" energy on a planet in 5D with people operating on 5D consciousness. you currently have different levels on the planet but eventually everyone will be at 5D...no lower vibrating energy will be here in the end...get my drift?

i'll promise you this...you'll notice by the end of next year that something has changed for the better on this planet...by 2012 this planet will be full of love! i promise you no more illuminati control..

it's true what they say also....everything in this reality is an illusion the only truth is love!

[sunyatta60]

I don't want to it to be proven that if we don't do something because we are pretending to ascend that we will all be pretending to ascend in dept camps.

That is a No then LOL

Reality is an illusion albeit a very persistent one.
Albert Einstein

[alleendewaarheid]

sunyatta60,

you have the free will to believe anything you want to believe...

i'm not gonna bother trying to convince you...it's your choice to believe whatever you choose to believe.

[chris]

I don't want to it to be proven that if we don't do something because we are pretending to ascend that we will all be pretending to ascend in dept camps.

That is a No then LOL

Reality is an illusion albeit a very persistent one.
Albert Einstein

I never said I could prove reality, I simply said that people who think they are out the 5 sense reality haven't been doing a very good job in displaying it...In fact they are pretty shit at displaying it.

So save the condescending Einstein quotes;)

[rossus]

with ascension and expansion of consciousness by everyone on the planet will lead naturally to the demise of the current system of domination and control.
is this truth or is it just another belief system to keep people inactive and asleep?

also with ascension you vibrate at a higher frequency and spin faster. only truth and love prevail in the new energy. the illuminati will naturally lose power because of the amount of light on the planet...
yeah and only people who join "the church of jesus christ" will go to heaven, the other people will go to hell. :rolleyes:
i mean, where do you get this information man? i know it's all over the net, but who originally wrote it? why would you trust it? how do you know that is the truth?

it's true what they say also....everything in this reality is an illusion the only truth is love!
"everything is an illusion" is a nice mantra... but when i kick you in the nuts... does it feel like an illusion or not?
i agree when you say it is an illusion,

but there's a different in saying "it is an illusion" and experiencing pain no longer as a problem because you know it's only an illusion.

in 2012 everything will be full of love, ...
spiritual enlightenment is not since 2012, it is since the beginning of the universe.
it is here available now, to everyone who wishes it.

"Blessed are the Pure in Heart, for they shall see god"
many of the prophets in religions like Islam & Christianity,
Buddhism, Taoism, Hinduism...

it's all about the same thing.
people have been speaking about it since as long as we can trace back history. one religion is more polluted than the other religion.
but it's nothing new and it's nothing to do with 2012.


now i don't mean that nothing is going to happen in 2012. i'm open to the possibility that there will be, but.....

it just smells like a belief system created to fool people. just like tom cruise believes aliens will soon invade the earth,
just like millions of people are trapped in christian, muslim, hindu, etc beliefs,
many people are also trapped in the belief... that the earth will ascend in 2012.

alleendewaarheid, how do you know the guy who invented all this 5 dimensional vibrational shift 2012 theory stuff wasn't bullshitting others... bullshitting himself or being bullshitted by others?

You say it like it is a fact! Have you seen any proof?
And i don't mean theory, but proof.

[alleendewaarheid]

rossus,

the battle you're having is within yourself

that's the beauty of this reality..you can choose to believe as you choose to..

lots of love!

gotta go to sleep..cheers!

[sunyatta60]

I never said I could prove reality, I simply said that people who think they are out the 5 sense reality haven't been doing a very good job in displaying it...In fact they are pretty shit at displaying it.

How are people out the 5 sense reality that makes no sense it does not compute.

So save the condescending Einstein quotes

You find the Einstein quote condescending LOL One of the world's greatest physcist gives it to you straight and you don't like it.

From the viewpoint of positivist philosophy, however, one cannot determine what is real. All one can do is find which mathematical models describe the universe we live in. It turns out that a mathematical model involving imaginary time predicts not only effects we have already observed but also effects we have not been able to measure yet nevertheless believe in for other reasons. So what is real and what is imaginary? Is the distinction just in our minds?
Stephen Hawking

[tinmenace]

"...why can't we 'feel' and 'know' our reality instead of insisting that the conditioned and manipulated mind must be the only arbiter of 'truth' through the production of evidence that it believes to be 'proof'? What is 'proof', anyway? Proof is only that which the conditioned mind accepts to be so...." - David Icke, Tales From The Time Loop (http://www.davidickebooks.co.uk/index.php?act=viewProd&productId=3/affiliate/idevaffiliate.php?id=288_0_1_7)

[alleendewaarheid]

one thing i forgot to mention about having ascended that has been a frustrating adjustment is how in 5D that my mind doesn't work anymore.

it has been very frustrating because when i try to use my mind is just doesn't work...it's hard to explain but with ascension you will end up using your heart more.

the mind is a 3 dimensional linear limited organ...it served its purpose in 3D but once you are all in 5D you'll not be using it anymore..your heart will take over

i'm just beginning to feel the pluses to not being able to use my mind but it has been a major adjustment.

anyways..just wanted to point that out before i go sleepy sleepy!

love to you all!

[raginggran]

Hi bryanamsterdam!

Glad to see you made it to Florida for the winter.

I have alot of the ascention symptoms..but they could be chalked up to creeping age.
When I was much younger, I lived in a love bubble..loving all..but had lots of rude awakenings.. its tough to maintain sweet harmony in a 3dworld..

love
gran

[rossus]

you can choose to believe as you choose to
so can you, but if you believe you can fly and you jump of a bridge...
you will not fly.

you may get a sense that you are going to be able to fly soon.
if not today... maybe tomorrow.
you may get a sense that today you are a couple of steps closer towards flying.

you may even see yourself growing wings one day. this is the power of the mind.
but if you jump of the bridge, you will not fly. this is reality.

so you my friend, you can believe also whatever you wish.
just be prepared that there's a reasonable chance in 2012 nothing extraordinarily spiritually positive will happen.



by the way,
i don't believe it's not possible to fly with the power of the mind. maybe it is, i do not know.
i just used this as an example. there's many people out there who believe they are jesus,
and in their reality they are jesus... but in real-ity they are not jesus.
just a normal man with a belief system manipulating his perception of reality... but not reality itself.

[de_shit]

My predictions are:

Death for innocent people.
Death for people that "deserve it".
Poverty in every nation.
Me getting laid before I turn 30 (yay).

All jokes of course but still dude thats some good shit man. It would be beasty as hell if that stuff did happen.

[alleendewaarheid]

like i said before it's about what i know that is important.

if you all decide to stay and ascend you'll get the same symptoms as i have now..everyone will...

what you believe is irrelevant and not a concern of mine...

by the way...the planet is in 4D...people like me are at 5D...4th wavers (ordinary people) are beginning to shift from 3D to 4D...there are different levels that can only exist side by side for a short time...

the further the ordinary people ascend "higher" the more aware they will become and the collective consciousness will further change this reality.

no amount of mind-control or disinformation will change the ascension. the illuminati can't compete with the physics of it all.

WE THE COLLECTIVE CONSCIOUSNESS have created the dualistic system with illuminati control.

WE THE PEOPLE will now create a beautiful planet with love and truth and the illuminati will be able to do NOTHING about it...

the power comes from we the people or we the collective consciousness

we gave the illuminati power and now we taketh away!

[father ted]

Here are my predictions to happen by the end of 2008

1) The next 911 will be government made spaceships landing in Los Angeles. The illuminati will hope to use that to get the populace to rally for government protection and a further erosion of civil liberties throughout the world. I believe it will backfire due to expanded consciousness from the ascension.

I'm usually pretty good with my predictions so we shall see.

Anyone else with their own predictions?

My prediction is that there won't be any Los Angeles fairly soon, so that goes against you're 1st prediction. I think most of California will be destroyed/sink due to earthquakes, if not the end of this year, then at least by the end of 2008.

Here's the U.S. Geological Survey Earthquake Hazards Program (why do they call it program at the end?) website:

http://www.earthquake.usgs.gov/

And that's just the ones they are reporting:eek:

[tintin]

Ha, BrianAmsterdam,
Cruise here.

I still live in Amsterdam.
Yesterday got a taste of the big city again.
My mother in law was robbed, and was completely in schock.
Had to comfort her.

Good old Amsterdam.....

[herebynightfall]

The thing about predictions is...

it takes one of the three to fulfill a prophecy.

1 - actions to help get that outcome.
2 - non-action which in turn, gets that outcome.
3 - mis-action which gets that outcome.

and what you're predicting in that first post...

requires numero UNO on your part.

you are infinite conciousness in a vessel of awesomeness.
use the former to get the latter in a situation where you can make all 3 predictions happen.

[alleendewaarheid]

i was in amsterdam for the last time in february this year. the illuminati seems to have done a good job with identificatie verplicht and the rest....haha...they're getting a bit nervous with all the changes going on..they actually believe they can change what is happening...

i don't believe i'll go back to amsterdam again..11 years was long enough...i wouldn't mind going back to vancouver though..i kind of miss the mountains. florida is nice and warm everyday...today's high 30c and low 22c...it has been cooling off..brrrr...hahaha

i'm amazed by the people...americans are nice people...after 15 years it's very nice to be here..the space and the warmth...i don't understand the american bashing...i've done it myself in the past but i was wrong..they're mostly interesting and decent people...

i do miss the food in albert heijn though....that's a big battle here everyday looking for some proper food to eat...north american food tastes pretty bad...

what is new in amsterdam? i hope your mother-in-law is okay!

[tintin]

i was in amsterdam for the last time in february this year. the illuminati seems to have done a good job with identificatie verplicht and the rest....haha...they're getting a bit nervous with all the changes going on..they actually believe they can change what is happening...

i don't believe i'll go back to amsterdam again..11 years was long enough...i wouldn't mind going back to vancouver though..i kind of miss the mountains. florida is nice and warm everyday...today's high 30c and low 22c...it has been cooling off..brrrr...hahaha

i'm amazed by the people...americans are nice people...after 15 years it's very nice to be here..the space and the warmth...i don't understand the american bashing...i've done it myself in the past but i was wrong..they're mostly interesting and decent people...

i do miss the food in albert heijn though....that's a big battle here everyday looking for some proper food to eat...north american food tastes pretty bad...

what is new in amsterdam? i hope your mother-in-law is okay!

Ha, hope she is not OK and dies soon,
so I can grab her money and move to Australia!!

Albert Heyn, yes, that's where we buy our stuff.
but I recently went to Australia, and have seen
the supermarkets over there
and to quote Crocodile Dundee,

Albert Heyn? that's no supermarket
This is a supermarket.....

http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/c/cd/Lakeside_Joondalup_Shopping_City_Coles.jpg/800px-Lakeside_Joondalup_Shopping_City_Coles.jpg

As for Amsterdam,
Don't go into the city very much,
Am not completely up to date on that front....

[mountain]

This is a very interesting thread. The planet has been suffering for so long and it is time for her to heal, along with her inhabitants. We will do this together for sure, but not everyone appreciates her yet. This begins with a LOVE of self and others and I feel that people are changing. I agree that we "feel" rather than see, sights can be deceiving.

[alleendewaarheid]

tintin,

most "anglo-saxon" countries have poopy food including australia..yeah sure they have big stores but the food in them tastes really gross.

i'm glad they have whole foods here in the USA..at least the food there taste good...too bad it's so expensive for your average american

same problem i had in vancouver...canadians have the same disgusting food as here in the USA.

i'm gonna get dutch food delivered to my home here...it costs alot but well worth the $$

what city do you live in in nederland?

[alleendewaarheid]

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This is a very interesting thread. The planet has been suffering for so long and it is time for her to heal, along with her inhabitants. We will do this together for sure, but not everyone appreciates her yet. This begins with a LOVE of self and others and I feel that people are changing. I agree that we "feel" rather than see, sights can be deceiving.
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well said!

[mountain]

tintin,

most "anglo-saxon" countries have poopy food including australia..yeah sure they have big stores but the food in them tastes really gross.

i'm glad they have whole foods here in the USA..at least the food there taste good...too bad it's so expensive for your average american

same problem i had in vancouver...canadians have the same disgusting food as here in the USA.

i'm gonna get dutch food delivered to my home here...it costs alot but well worth the $$

what city do you live in in nederland?

Whole Foods is great, and some of the Asian markets have great fresh food, too. But the Safeway and Shoppers Food Warehouse? YUCK!!!

[mountain]

Speaking of food, one of my predictions is that there will no longer be any dehydralyzed crap available anymore for the people to consume!

That means no more foods laced with MSG and Aspartame especially!

The only foods that will exists will be super fresh untainted delights! YUM!!
And we will detoxify ourselves as a result.

[tintin]

tintin,

most "anglo-saxon" countries have poopy food including australia..yeah sure they have big stores but the food in them tastes really gross.

i'm glad they have whole foods here in the USA..at least the food there taste good...too bad it's so expensive for your average american

same problem i had in vancouver...canadians have the same disgusting food as here in the USA.

i'm gonna get dutch food delivered to my home here...it costs alot but well worth the $$

Well brian,
have to make a little confession here,
I am not so much interested in food,
it's more the liqueur section....

But about australian food.
I have been there and was pleasantly surprised.
Been to some ordinary restaurant close to
melbourne and it was delicious.
And in a warm atmosphere and damn cheap!
(for european standards).

Just go to that wonderful country and
you will be surprised, garantueed.

[alleendewaarheid]

i wish i could still drink alot..but alas with this ascension business i can't handle it anymore...tends to magnify the effects now...we had a huge house party on friday night and i drank quite a bit and really felt like major crap yesterday..i do miss buying my DUVEL for cheap in amsterdam..here it costs $3.50 for one duvel...

have you ever been to new zealand...i've been thinking about going and living there for awhile...

my bio-brother lives in melbourne but we haven't seen each other in years..maybe i'll go visit sometime..

[neutron flux]

by the way...the planet is in 4D...people like me are at 5D...4th wavers (ordinary people) are beginning to shift from 3D to 4D...there are different levels that can only exist side by side for a short time...


How is the planet 4d? So you've finally assended - I don't think so! Where do you get your info now bryan? I remember one of your other predictions - NESARA - lol :p

i wish i could still drink alot..but alas with this ascension business i can't handle it anymore...tends to magnify the effects now...we had a huge house party on friday night and i drank quite a bit and really felt like major crap yesterday..

Wow, being assended gives you a hangover if you drink too much, well I never would have guessed that!

[tintin]

i wish i could still drink alot..but alas with this ascension business i can't handle it anymore...tends to magnify the effects now...we had a huge house party on friday night and i drank quite a bit and really felt like major crap yesterday..i do miss buying my DUVEL for cheap in amsterdam..here it costs $3.50 for one duvel...

have you ever been to new zealand...i've been thinking about going and living there for awhile...

my bio-brother lives in melbourne but we haven't seen each other in years..maybe i'll go visit sometime..

DUVEL!!
Now we're talking, that's my favourite one.
the best there is....

http://www.globalbeer.com/Merchant2/graphics/Greetingcards/big/Duvel.jpg

[chris]

I never said I could prove reality, I simply said that people who think they are out the 5 sense reality haven't been doing a very good job in displaying it...In fact they are pretty shit at displaying it.

How are people out the 5 sense reality that makes no sense it does not compute.

So save the condescending Einstein quotes

You find the Einstein quote condescending LOL One of the world's greatest physcist gives it to you straight and you don't like it.

From the viewpoint of positivist philosophy, however, one cannot determine what is real. All one can do is find which mathematical models describe the universe we live in. It turns out that a mathematical model involving imaginary time predicts not only effects we have already observed but also effects we have not been able to measure yet nevertheless believe in for other reasons. So what is real and what is imaginary? Is the distinction just in our minds?
Stephen Hawking

I'm not saying Einstein was condescending, I was saying you are condescending by using that cliche to make your point that had nothing to do with my original premise.

[alleendewaarheid]

cruise,

how naughty of you putting that big beautiful duvel photo on here..yummmm...

i could use some oude kaas...no better yet...gras kaas!!!!! and some pinda marinade Duyves...oh yeah..and some worst!! YUMMY!!!

oh yeah..forgot...albert heijn salami pizza...

ok..another duvel please..one is not enough...

[alleendewaarheid]

neutron flux,

doesn't work..boring and ineffective..

5D is great...you'll experience it yourself unless you leave before 2012..

i used to drink quite a bit in amsterdam..never affected me..but with a crystalline body and the spatial stuff i have now it's kind of difficult to drink like i used to.

i've gotta go for my walk before it gets too hot...33c today and with humidity that's roughly 38c...

have a nice day!

[tejas]

so can you, but if you believe you can fly and you jump of a bridge...
you will not fly.

you may get a sense that you are going to be able to fly soon.
if not today... maybe tomorrow.
you may get a sense that today you are a couple of steps closer towards flying.

you may even see yourself growing wings one day. this is the power of the mind.
but if you jump of the bridge, you will not fly. this is reality.

so you my friend, you can believe also whatever you wish.
just be prepared that there's a reasonable chance in 2012 nothing extraordinarily spiritually positive will happen.



by the way,
i don't believe it's not possible to fly with the power of the mind. maybe it is, i do not know.
i just used this as an example. there's many people out there who believe they are jesus,
and in their reality they are jesus... but in real-ity they are not jesus.
just a normal man with a belief system manipulating his perception of reality... but not reality itself.

Well said!

[tejas]

neutron flux,

doesn't work..boring and ineffective..

5D is great...you'll experience it yourself unless you leave before 2012..

i used to drink quite a bit in amsterdam..never affected me..but with a crystalline body and the spatial stuff i have now it's kind of difficult to drink like i used to.

i've gotta go for my walk before it gets too hot...33c today and with humidity that's roughly 38c...

have a nice day!

Can I ask you how man D's there are? And why do we need to 'ascend' through each one rather then just getting to the jackpot?

Also I find it interesting that some versions string theory coincides with there being 11-13 dimensions... any light on that?

[sunyatta60]

I'm not saying Einstein was condescending, I was saying you are condescending by using that cliche to make your point that had nothing to do with my original premise.

Pointing out that Einstein said the world is an illusion is to you a Cliche is it LOL You seemed to be pouring cold water on the idea that the world is an illusion and denigrating anyone who holds to that concept/idea.
Now state your position clearly if you can are you a Materalist/Atheist who believes the world is real? If that is your position then the onus is clearly on you you prove your case. I know you cannot do it because the World's greatest Scientists and Philosophers have been unable to do so. Materalism is based on Dualism which is based on the Spurious and specious Philosophy of that mad Frenchman Descartes you know the guy who was attacked by Demons everywhere he looked. :)

[sunyatta60]

sunyatta60,

you have the free will to believe anything you want to believe...

i'm not gonna bother trying to convince you...it's your choice to believe whatever you choose to believe.


Mate I was not talking to you but the other idiot who claims the world is real.
BTW I don't agree with you that we have freewill, freewill is all part of the illusion imho :)

[chris]

Pointing out that Einstein said the world is an illusion is to you a Cliche is it LOL You seemed to be pouring cold water on the idea that the world is an illusion and denigrating anyone who holds to that concept/idea.

http://education.yahoo.com/reference/dictionary/entry/cliche

Definition of cliché

cli•ché also cliche

NOUN:
A trite or overused expression or idea: "Even while the phrase was degenerating to cliché in ordinary public use . . . scholars were giving it increasing attention" (Anthony Brandt).
A person or character whose behavior is predictable or superficial: "There is a young explorer . . . who turns out not to be quite the cliche expected" (John Crowley).
Seeing as you and your quote fitted both of the above criteria and the cringe worthy feeling I got when I read it, I dubbed it correctly:)
Now state your position clearly if you can are you a Materalist/Atheist who believes the world is real? If that is your position then the onus is clearly on you you prove your case. I know you cannot do it because the World's greatest Scientists and Philosophers have been unable to do so.

This is where you’ve been wrong everytime, just look at my threads in the meditation section :rolleyes:

Since you asked nicely my position clearly is…Though the higher truth might be that life is an illusion, it is very hypocritical of people who pretend they live that truth are mostly the ones that do not participate in important situations while still are hooked to the Television, addicted to bad food and do not even meditate. Yet they’ll make up any excuse not to help Ron Pauls campaign because they are above it and all the other excuses I’ve seen…

If you had read my posts before and not resorted to semantics you could easily see this and not made a fool of yourself;)

[alleendewaarheid]

tejas,

there are 12 dimensions...the top being the original energy or creator as many people call it..

all dimensions were created from the top or creator..."stepping-down" in frequency is how the lower density "solid" dimensions were created.."thoughts" created matter...

one ascends through experience thus achieving a certain sense of awareness..with awareness there is an expansion of consciousness..

to operate at higher levels one must have the necessary matching energy..that comes through an expansion in consciousness.

you could say the creator created from the top down to experience more denser realities...the "all that is" expands through experience..

the higher one goes the more faster things spin and the higher the frequency and the more pure the light..obviously also in the higher dimensions there is no physical form...the higher one goes also the more pure love..

it just has to do with like energy attracting like energy...it's not that simple to explain...especially not with the way my mind doesn't work anymore...

my partner is an ascended angel...he has come here many thousand times..he has ascended higher to where i come from through experience and gained awareness..

I, on the other hand, am a descended angel and have come here less frequently..was here during atlantis and leumeria as a civil servant and mostly to enjoy earthly pleasures like eating and drinking (i was a drunken sailor at one point..LOL)...the reason i descended was because i come from the Archangel Michael energy and have been around longer..i've just come to help people on the planet during this ascension in physical form which has never been done before...it is creating a new energy and new crystalline humans...it's an experiment that has succeeded!

you might also come from higher up...with the veil many have forgotten who they really are..

all of us are creators or gods...we have all forgotten how grand we are...

you are also important and must remember you are grand!

hope that helps a bit!

love...

[sunyatta60]

Since you asked nicely my position clearly is…Though the higher truth might be that life is an illusion, it is very hypocritical of people who pretend they live that truth are mostly the ones that do not participate in important situations while still are hooked to the Television, addicted to bad food and do not even meditate.

Who are you to judge other people in fact I would say that most people who have seen through the illusion do not engage in the hypocrisy you describe. What you describe is the mindset of the masses.
As for the word Cliche you don't need to give me the definition I know what it means, but you seem to think that quoting a Scientists who points out that the world is an illusion is some sort of trite comment LOL
If it was that cliched more people would be awake to what is going on and the True Nature of Reality.
I personally get the feeling that you are a Materalist trying but failing to pass yourself off as some enlightened person. Enlightened people do not engage in Judgment they just make observation!:rolleyes:

[intruder]

I appreciate your visions....but personally, I don't think ANY will manifest, aside from another engineered terror event.

I can't see Ron Paul becoming Pres., at all.

And unfortunately, I believe that 9/11 is going down the same path as JFK's murder.

Another engineered terror event could potentially accomplish two things. Depending when it is perpetrated, it would ensure continuity of the current administration and allow Bush to seize total control. Barring any and all candidates from office.

2nd, a NEW and IMPROVED terror event would really relegate 9/11 into the dustbin wouldn't it? Aside from countless eyes looking to Bush and company as the perpetrators, they will, as usual, just shrug their shoulders and say "awwwwww shucks!!!!!....what dumb luck, I mean, what horror....what horror."

[chris]

Since you asked nicely my position clearly is…Though the higher truth might be that life is an illusion, it is very hypocritical of people who pretend they live that truth are mostly the ones that do not participate in important situations while still are hooked to the Television, addicted to bad food and do not even meditate.

Who are you to judge other people in fact I would say that most people who have seen through the illusion do not engage in the hypocrisy you describe. What you describe is the mindset of the masses.
As for the word Cliche you don't need to give me the definition I know what it means, but you seem to think that quoting a Scientists who points out that the world is an illusion is some sort of trite comment LOL
If it was that cliched more people would be awake to what is going on and the True Nature of Reality.
I personally get the feeling that you are a Materalist trying but failing to pass yourself off as some enlightened person. Enlightened people do not engage in Judgment they just make observation!:rolleyes:

okay:rolleyes:

[synergy777]

there will no false flag in my view, its too risky, considering the 911 inside job. they will concentrate on the theatres of war, iran, syria, iraq, israel.

[alleendewaarheid]

hi intruder,

the main reason i give these predictions is the expansion of consciousness going on...with the ascension people will become more aware..it might not seem that way to you but i'd advise turning off your TV and not reading newspapers..that's not where the truth is...it's happening all around you..people are waking finally up!

you'd be surprised how many people here in florida who know about the illuminati and about the ascension...it has changed considerably from years ago...

[bigus_dickus]

there are 12 dimensions...the top being the original energy or creator as many people call it..

hey bryan, whassup

you've been ascending for the last 3-4 years now, however you're still here, the same ol' bryan saying the same things as 4 years ago.

guess what: the dimensions are not numbered or labeled. we make that structure so that such a concept can fit in our structured minds. numbers do not exist, they are figures. we figure them, so we can count separate objects, events and time.

but since you are up there, you already know this shit don't you. :)

[alleendewaarheid]

actually my own personal physical ascension has been going on since 1999. i've arrived and am in 5D in physical form.

i'm far more different than i was even just 6 months ago.

we are all one and there is no separation but energetically yes there are different levels..

it's not "up there" either... it's going within...

it's kind of freakin awesome to feel what i feel....people i attract now vibrate at the same level so i don't have any "lower vibrational" stuff happen to me...we get "miracles" all the time..you wouldn't believe the great things happening to us.....things just come to us now...no work anymore...no negative anything...it's wonderful!

though as i type i make constant spelling mistakes because my mind doesn't work anymore so that can be frustrating..

if you stay around on the planet you'll experience it yourself..

it has taken roughly 8 years because it can't go fast (ascending) otherwise your body would "explode"..

love...

[chris]

there will no false flag in my view, its too risky, considering the 911 inside job. they will concentrate on the theatres of war, iran, syria, iraq, israel.

Were you breastfed as a child? There's gonna be Alien landings by 2008 and we're gonna forget all about it if there isn't...

[sunyatta60]

[QUOTE=alleendewaarheid;157511]actually my own personal physical ascension has been going on since 1999. i've arrived and am in 5D in physical form.

i'm far more different than i was even just 6 months ago.

we are all one and there is no separation but energetically yes there are different levels..

it's not "up there" either... it's going within...

This has always been the message of Christ in its various manifestations I heard you say something about thinking with the heart in an earlier post. Did you know that Scientists have discovered what amounts to a second brain in the human gut. Here is the article enjoy :)

Scientists Discover 'Second Brain' in the Stomach

Scientists are claiming to have discovered a second brain - in the human stomach.

The breakthrough, involving experts in the US and Germany, is believed to play a major part in the way people behave.

This 'second brain' is made up of a knot of brain nerves in the digestive tract. It is thought to involve around 100 billion nerve cells - more than held in the spinal cord.

Researchers believe this belly brain may save information on physical reactions to mental processes and give out signals to influence later decisions. It may also be responsible in the creation of reactions such as joy or sadness.

The research is outlined in the latest issue of German science magazine, Geo, in which Professor Wolfgang Prinz, of the Max Planck Institute for Psychological Research in Munich, says the discovery could give a new twist on the old phrase "gut reaction".

He said: "People often follow their gut reactions without even knowing why, its only later that they come up with the logical reason for acting the way they did. But we now believe that there is a lot more to gut feelings than was previously believed."

Professor Prinz thinks the stomach network may be the source for unconscious decisions which the main brain later claims as conscious decisions of its own.

The second brain was rediscovered by Michael Gershorn, of the University of Colombia in New York, after it was forgotten by science. He says it was first documented by a 19th century German neurologist, Leopold Auerbach.

He discovered two layers of nerve cells near a piece of intestine he was dissecting. After putting them under the microscope he found they were part of a complex network.

Recent research has already raised the idea that many reactions may be made in the stomach. Benjamin Libet, of the University of California found the brains of volunteers asked to raise their arms only registered activity about half a second after the movement had been made. He believes his work implies another part of the body may have been involved in making the decision.

Source: Ananova

[alleendewaarheid]

sunyatta60,

actually saying "gut" is figurative...like trusting your intuition..

multidimensional knowledge comes through the heart chakra...it comes through as a "subtle knowingness"...i used the expression "trust your gut" to simplify it..

i can tell you actually some interesting things that have happened to me physically...one in particular might interest you...i get this symptom and so does my friend...i get a sound similar to "stomach noises" or like "a toilet flushing" often... right where my heart is located..it is energy streaming in...1st wavers transmute energy...we bring in the new energy and basically get rid of the lower denser energies...there are many of us on the planet..

anyways..thanks for your interesting response...what i really mean't to say is to trust your heart...

thinking and using your mind is very 3 dimensional in nature...

in the 5th dimension one operates multidimensionally through the heart...the mind...with ascension "takes a backseat"...i can tell you honestly that my mind doesn't function very well anymore nor my friend...

anyways..everyone will be ascending and i'm here to tell you these things and help..that's all..i've been through it so i can prepare people for it...

[bigus_dickus]

i've arrived and am in 5D in physical form.

does this even mean something? i am 899D in physical form, what did you understand?

i'm far more different than i was even just 6 months ago.

we all are.

we are all one and there is no separation but energetically yes there are different levels..

it's not "up there" either... it's going within...

so, can you see me too "up there"? ("up there" is a figure of speech, there is no "up" and "down", nor there is "within" and "without", but you already know that since you've ascended, right?)

it's kind of freakin awesome to feel what i feel....people i attract now vibrate at the same level so i don't have any "lower vibrational" stuff happen to me...we get "miracles" all the time..you wouldn't believe the great things happening to us.....things just come to us now...no work anymore...no negative anything...it's wonderful!

did you get lazy before or after ascension?

about the rest, yeah it happens to everyone else too as a matter of fact.

though as i type i make constant spelling mistakes because my mind doesn't work anymore so that can be frustrating..

oh, i have no doubt about this, trust me :)

if you stay around on the planet you'll experience it yourself..

like, where else would i go? do they have pool tables and cold beer in mars?

it has taken roughly 8 years because it can't go fast (ascending) otherwise your body would "explode"..

love...

tough ride.. it took me just a moment. :D

[teslafire]

I'm still waiting for gold to rise to $8000/oz. by the end of '06

[abrilliantone]

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[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

HA! I just noticed your name. Alleen de waarheid.

Question though;
Is "waarheid" "vrouwlijk" or "manelijk"? I always get confussed when using "de" and "het".

[alleendewaarheid]

Awareness is increasing with the ascension. The more than 1/3 below will increase with expanded consciousness.


Third of Americans suspect 9-11 government conspiracy
National News | News | Politics
By THOMAS HARGROVE
Scripps Howard News Service

More than a third of the American public suspects that federal officials assisted in the 9/11 terrorist attacks or took no action to stop them so the United States could go to war in the Middle East, according to a new Scripps Howard/Ohio University poll.

The national survey of 1,010 adults also found that anger against the federal government is at record levels, with 54 percent saying they "personally are more angry" at the government than they used to be.

Widespread resentment and alienation toward the national government appears to be fueling a growing acceptance of conspiracy theories about the 2001 attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon.

Suspicions that the 9/11 attacks were "an inside job" _ the common phrase used by conspiracy theorists on the Internet _ quickly have become nearly as popular as decades-old conspiracy theories that the federal government was responsible for President John F. Kennedy's assassination and that it has covered up proof of space aliens.






Seventy percent of people who give credence to these theories also say they've become angrier with the federal government than they used to be.

Thirty-six percent of respondents overall said it is "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that federal officials either participated in the attacks on the World Trade Center and the Pentagon or took no action to stop them "because they wanted the United States to go to war in the Middle East."

"One out of three sounds high, but that may very well be right," said Lee Hamilton, former vice chairman of the National Commission on Terrorist Attacks Upon the United States (also called the 9/11 commission.) His congressionally appointed investigation concluded that federal officials bungled their attempts to prevent, but did not participate in, the attacks by al Qaeda five years ago.

"A lot of people I've encountered believe the U.S. government was involved," Hamilton said. "Many say the government planned the whole thing. Of course, we don't think the evidence leads that way at all."

The poll also found that 16 percent of Americans speculate that secretly planted explosives, not burning passenger jets, were the real reason the massive twin towers of the World Trade Center collapsed.

Conspiracy groups for at least two years have also questioned why the World Trade Center collapsed when fires that heavily damaged similar skyscrapers around the world did not cause such destruction. Sixteen percent said it's "very likely" or "somewhat likely" that "the collapse of the twin towers in New York was aided by explosives secretly planted in the two buildings."

Twelve percent suspect the Pentagon was struck by a military cruise missile in 2001 rather than by an airliner captured by terrorists.

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That lower percentage may result from an effort by the conservative Washington-based Judicial Watch advocacy group to debunk the claim. The group filed claims under the Freedom of Information Act and got two fill loops released from Pentagon security cameras.

"Some people claim they can't see anything, but I see a plane hitting the Pentagon at incredibly high speed," said Judicial Watch President Tom Fitton. "I see the nose of the plane clearly entering the frame of one video and the tail of the plane entering the Pentagon in the other video."

Many conspiracy Web sites have posted the video loops and report the films are inconclusive or were manipulated by the government.

"Some folks will never be convinced," Fitton said. "But I'm hoping that these videos will dissuade reasonable people from falling into a trap with these conspiracy theories."

University of Florida law professor Mark Fenster, author of the book "Conspiracy Theories: Secrecy and Power in American Culture," said the poll's findings reflect public anger at the unpopular Iraq war, realization that Saddam Hussein did not have weapons of mass destruction and growing doubts of the veracity of the Bush administration.

"What has amazed me is not that there are conspiracy theories, but that they didn't seem to be getting any purchase among the American public until the last year or so," Fenster said. "Although the Iraq war was not directly related to the 9/11 attacks, people are now looking back at 9/11 with much more skepticism than they used to."

Conspiracy-believing participants in the poll agree their suspicions are recent.

"I certainly didn't think of conspiracies when 9/11 first happened," said Elaine Tripp, 62, of Tabernacle, N.J. "I don't know if President Bush was aware of the exact time it was going to happen. But he certainly didn't do enough to stop it. Bush was so intent on having his own little war."

Garrett Johnson, 19, of Manassas, Va., said it was "well after the fact" before he started questioning the official explanation of the attacks. "But then people I know started talking about it. And the Internet had a lot to do with this. After reading all of the different articles there, I started to think we weren't being told the truth."

The Scripps Survey Research Center at Ohio University has tracked the level of resentment people feel toward the federal government since 1995, starting shortly after Timothy McVeigh bombed the federal building in Oklahoma City. Forty-seven percent then said they, personally, feel "more angry at the federal government" than they used to. That percentage dropped to 42 percent in 1997, 34 percent in 1998 and only 12 percent shortly after 9/11 during the groundswell of patriotism and support for the government after the attacks.

But the new survey found that 77 percent say their friends and acquaintances have become angrier with government recently and 54 percent say they, themselves, have become angrier _ both record levels.

The survey also found that people who regularly use the Internet but who do not regularly use so-called "mainstream" media are significantly more likely to believe in 9/11 conspiracies. People who regularly read daily newspapers or listen to radio newscasts were especially unlikely to believe in the conspiracies.

"We know that there are a lot of people now asking questions," said Janice Matthews, executive director of 911Truth.org, one of the most sophisticated Internet sites raising doubts about official explanations of the attacks. "We didn't have the Internet after Pearl Harbor, the Gulf of Tonkin or the Kennedy assassination. But we live in different times now."

Matthews' Web site averaged 4,000 "hits" a day last year, but currently has at least 12,000 visits every 24 hours. The site, according to its online policy statement, is dedicated to showing the public that "elements within the U.S. government must have orchestrated or participated in the execution of the attacks for these to have happened the way in which they did."

Participants in the poll were asked to respond to "several serious accusations that some people have made against the federal government in recent years." Five conspiracy theories were described and participants were asked if each was "very likely, somewhat likely or unlikely."

The level of suspicion of U.S. official involvement in a 9/11 conspiracy was only slightly behind the 40 percent who suspect "officials in the federal government were directly responsible for the assassination of President Kennedy" and the 38 percent who believe "the federal government is withholding proof of the existence of intelligent life from other planets."

The poll found that a majority of young adults give at least some credence to a 9/11 conspiracy compared to less than a fourth of people 65 or older. Members of racial and ethnic minorities, people with only a high school education and Democrats were especially likely to suspect federal involvement in 9/11.

The survey was conducted by telephone from July 6-24 at the Scripps Survey Research Center at the University of Ohio under a grant from the Scripps Howard Foundation. The poll has a margin of error of 4 percentage points.

(Thomas Hargrove is a reporter for Scripps Howard News Service. Guido H. Stempel III is director of the Scripps Survey Research Center at Ohio University.)

[alleendewaarheid]

For those of you interested I'll be popping in from time to time to help anyone who has questions or is interested in talk about the "new energy" and 5D existence on this planet.

Going into forums like this is kind of "old energy" for me so I'll just pop in now and then.

Just remember these forums are here to promote duality, division and disinformation. There is no difference..rense.com..prisonplanet.com..davidicke .com...all are here to create the illusion of power.

With the current planetary level and the beginning of the 4th wavers ascension the illuminati is in its dying days. Next year the illuminati will be irrelevant and powerless!

The secret governments get their power by maintaining an illusion of greatness...they really aren't that grand..trust me..

Look at the discussions in here...about jews etc. etc...by keeping you focused on division and fear they want to keep you away from your own divinity.

I suggest you leave this forum because duality is over! The New Earth is about love and truth and community.

These forums are dying "old energy".

For those that remember...I did tell you that davidickeforum.com would be closing down and it did, didn't it? That was a pretty good prediction of mine.

This forum will also be closing down by the middle of 2008.

Duality, division, fear and all the rest is "old energy" and is dying...the "new energy" of higher vibration is pushing it out...the two cannot exist side by side.

Be positive...be loving...be ONE!

Ignore those who wish to divide you or keep you in fear.

FEAR IS AN ILLUSION!

The only truth is LOVE!

we created collectively the illuminati because we wanted to experience duality..that time is now over...the illuminati have had their power through us...WE CAN MAKE THEM GO AWAY IN AN INSTANT and WE WILL!

Lots of love!

[chris]

The only thing that is ascending is the rod up your arse.

Seriously, if this is enlightenment, I'm joining the NWO.

[damagedbrainn]

1) The next 911 will be government made spaceships landing in Los Angeles. The illuminati will hope to use that to get the populace to rally for government protection and a further erosion of civil liberties throughout the world. I believe it will backfire due to expanded consciousness from the ascension.

I've heard that theory before, and while I'm not sure if I believe in it since I think there's more behind the whole UFO thing than a simple government conspiracy or Alien intervention, I can admit that if they have the capability to pull something like that off, it certainly would work in uniting the world under a "secure" police state. Also anyone who had previously openly claimed to have had contact with ET's or UFO's will likely be killed or imprisoned.

2) Ron Paul will be the next president of the USA.

Ron Paul won't win the Presidential election. He won't even win the Repubican primary.

3) The truth about 911 will come out before end next year.:eek:

911 conspiracy theories will continue to reach a wider audience. Once this hits its peak, there will be another "investigation" in which some small amount of accountability will be admitted to on the US government's part (most likely in the form of "intelligence failures"). Then there will be a bit of "rabble rabble" from the American people, George Bush will be more hated than he is now, and the rest will be business as usual as all of the 911 conspiracy theories are slowly forgotten.

[cheesedanish]

I predict ....

continued rising prices of ...

fuel, food, interest rates.

[serpentoffire]

I predict ....

continued rising prices of ...

fuel, food, interest rates.

Agree with you. I predict also the end of Lucifer kingdom on earth.
NWO will fall crushed under its weight, bringing with it all its evil slaves.

[majicdragon]

I'll bet you $10,000 911 truth will come out by end next year!

It's out isnt it?

[chris]

It's out isnt it?

I think out means the mainstream media reporting on it as a fact.

But in a year, this person will be long gone and it's not like if you were to gamble money on it, he would pay up;)

[synak]

Agree with you. I predict also the end of Lucifer kingdom on earth.


Indeed my friend, as do I.

I predict all guns and similar weaponry being stripped (or as much as possible) from the civilian populace and complete house raids being done on all their homes to ensure this. Mid to late 08 at the earliest and 2010 at the VERY latest.

[majicdragon]

You won't have to predict terror before the elections. You might want to predict a safe place to be during this terror. Bush team, badly in need of solution, cause problem, anticipate reaction.

[tejas]

tejas,

there are 12 dimensions...the top being the original energy or creator as many people call it..

all dimensions were created from the top or creator..."stepping-down" in frequency is how the lower density "solid" dimensions were created.."thoughts" created matter...

one ascends through experience thus achieving a certain sense of awareness..with awareness there is an expansion of consciousness..

to operate at higher levels one must have the necessary matching energy..that comes through an expansion in consciousness.

you could say the creator created from the top down to experience more denser realities...the "all that is" expands through experience..

the higher one goes the more faster things spin and the higher the frequency and the more pure the light..obviously also in the higher dimensions there is no physical form...the higher one goes also the more pure love..

it just has to do with like energy attracting like energy...it's not that simple to explain...especially not with the way my mind doesn't work anymore...

my partner is an ascended angel...he has come here many thousand times..he has ascended higher to where i come from through experience and gained awareness..

I, on the other hand, am a descended angel and have come here less frequently..was here during atlantis and leumeria as a civil servant and mostly to enjoy earthly pleasures like eating and drinking (i was a drunken sailor at one point..LOL)...the reason i descended was because i come from the Archangel Michael energy and have been around longer..i've just come to help people on the planet during this ascension in physical form which has never been done before...it is creating a new energy and new crystalline humans...it's an experiment that has succeeded!

you might also come from higher up...with the veil many have forgotten who they really are..

all of us are creators or gods...we have all forgotten how grand we are...

you are also important and must remember you are grand!

hope that helps a bit!

love...

Thanks for your response, much appreciated.

But what about Ickes claims that all vibrational levels or D's are illusions as well?

This fits in with buddhism/advaitism etc, what is your stand on that?

[asentinel]

Thanks for your response, much appreciated.

But what about Ickes claims that all vibrational levels or D's are illusions as well?

This fits in with buddhism/advaitism etc, what is your stand on that?[/QUOTE]

I thinks that sounds right, I think the matrix includes the vibrational levels, beyond is ......

Unity, must include everything. The levels are an illusion also.

no, back and forth, just there.... Anything which includes polarity is still in the system.

Reclaim self. No struggle.

[serpentoffire]

The development of a Quantum field theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia of a force invariably results in infinite (and therefore useless) probabilities. Physicists have developed mathematical techniques (Renormalization - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia) to eliminate these infinities which work for three of the four fundamental forces - electromagnetic, strong nuclear and weak nuclear forces - but not for gravity. The development of a quantum theory of gravity must therefore come about by different means than those used for the other forces.
The basic idea is that the fundamental constituents of reality are strings of the Planck units - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (about 10−35 m) which vibrate at Resonance - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia frequencies. Every string in theory has a unique resonance, or harmonic. Different harmonics determine different fundamental forces. The tension in a string is on the order of the Planck force - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (1044 Newton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia). The Graviton - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia (the proposed messenger particle of the gravitational force), for example, is predicted by the theory to be a string with wave amplitude zero (see Tesla ZPE - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia)

Our Space - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia is observed to have only three large Dimension - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia — and taken together with time as the fourth dimension — a physical theory must take this into account. However, nothing prevents a theory from including more than 4 dimensions, per se. In the case of String theory - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, Consistency - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia requires Spacetime - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia to have 10, 11 or 26 dimensions. The conflict between observation and theory is resolved by making the unobserved dimensions http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Compact_dimension.
Our minds have difficulty visualizing higher dimensions because we can only move in three spatial dimensions. One way of dealing with this limitation is not to try to visualize higher dimensions at all, but just to think of them as extra numbers in the equations that describe the way the world works.

http://i241.photobucket.com/albums/ff118/serpentoffire/string.jpg

[synergy777]

serpent can you post the string theory on the remote viewing thread, cheers bro.

[tejas]

Thanks for your response, much appreciated.

But what about Ickes claims that all vibrational levels or D's are illusions as well?

This fits in with buddhism/advaitism etc, what is your stand on that?

I thinks that sounds right, I think the matrix includes the vibrational levels, beyond is ......

Unity, must include everything. The levels are an illusion also.

no, back and forth, just there.... Anything which includes polarity is still in the system.

Reclaim self. No struggle.

Thats exactly what I mean, all the levels are constructs as well and not the absolute truth itself.

[alleendewaarheid]

hi tejas,

this is my last post 'cause i'm going on vacation today..

there is mastery involved to go from one level to the next..those at the higher dimensions have mastered higher states of consciousness..it's not possible to go directly from 3D to 12D unless you are an ascended master like adamus or others and have mastered each level. the ascended masters can raise and lower their frequencies and can multidimensionally shift...mastery comes through experience.

that's why with the current planetary ascension you have people like me and other 1st, 2nd, 3rd wavers here to help because the 4th wavers (ordinary people) have never mastered it before. we are here to help!

icke is incorrect about the other Ds...the other levels are energetically different...one's vibration/frequency must match each dimension's corresponding vibration/frequency..this is achieved through mastery.

buddhism has some things right but most things wrong.

[tejas]

http://www.religiousworlds.com/mystic/ashgita.html

[Mo0n5tar]

hi tejas,

this is my last post 'cause i'm going on vacation today..

there is mastery involved to go from one level to the next..those at the higher dimensions have mastered higher states of consciousness..it's not possible to go directly from 3D to 12D unless you are an ascended master like adamus or others and have mastered each level. the ascended masters can raise and lower their frequencies and can multidimensionally shift...mastery comes through experience.

that's why with the current planetary ascension you have people like me and other 1st, 2nd, 3rd wavers here to help because the 4th wavers (ordinary people) have never mastered it before. we are here to help!

icke is incorrect about the other Ds...the other levels are energetically different...one's vibration/frequency must match each dimension's corresponding vibration/frequency..this is achieved through mastery.

buddhism has some things right but most things wrong.

Sounds quite similar to kaballah imo..

[graflok]

My prediction is that there won't be any Los Angeles fairly soon, so that goes against you're 1st prediction. I think most of California will be destroyed/sink due to earthquakes, if not the end of this year, then at least by the end of 2008.

You think they will destroy the "Entertainment Capital of the World?" Wipe out
the media centers used to control the world's population? Sink Malibu? Wipe
out all their movie studios, recording studios, TV studios, propaganda assets and
playgrounds?

I don't think so.

I think La La Land is the safest place on Earth, baby.

[rossus]

You think they will destroy the "Entertainment Capital of the World?" Wipe out
the media centers used to control the world's population? Sink Malibu? Wipe
out all their movie studios, recording studios, TV studios, propaganda assets and
playgrounds?

I don't think so.

I think La La Land is the safest place on Earth, baby.
indeed.

unless there'd be an attack by non-illuminati-terrorists (which is unlikely)
LA will not be wiped off the map very soon.

[snoopsnuffleopagus]

You think they will destroy the "Entertainment Capital of the World?" Wipe out
the media centers used to control the world's population? Sink Malibu? Wipe
out all their movie studios, recording studios, TV studios, propaganda assets and
playgrounds?

I don't think so.

I think La La Land is the safest place on Earth, baby.

Cordial Felicitations Graflok:

Excellent Point asto the 'Power' of Hollywood. We are all 'Witnessing' the 'Fruit' of that 'Tree'.

But at the 'End of the Day', is it not more the 'Power' of the 'Software', rather than the 'Hardware'?.

Kind Regards: Snoopsnuffleopagus