Igot it,i got it, how to change the world..

[clint_giles]

The only way we can change the world is,we need to change the children born into this world...........


Change for the better.

No more indoctrinating the youth with lies.....

Be open and honest and tell it like it is......

Money is fake.
People are fake.
Reality as you see it now is fake.

Im going to say from the ages 6-7 and on we need to open up their little minds to wonder and not belief !


From birth until 5 years old......let them be innocent.
After that shock and awe them so they do not become
everyday robots

like the rest of them !

[unlockthepower]

True

[billycourty]

Mmm might lead to hopeless depression though.

[ronisron]

The only way we can change the world is,we need to change the children born into this world...........


Change for the better.

No more indoctrinating the youth with lies.....

Be open and honest and tell it like it is......

Money is fake.
People are fake.
Reality as you see it now is fake.

Im going to say from the ages 6-7 and on we need to open up their little minds to wonder and not belief !


From birth until 5 years old......let them be innocent.
After that shock and awe them so they do not become
everyday robots

like the rest of them !

I do raise my children to be more aware. They don't go for the same things most of their friends do. They are aware of and notice subliminals and symbols. They know the government is run by crazy people whose true face is always kept hidden.

[clint_giles]

I do raise my children to be more aware. They don't go for the same things most of their friends do. They are aware of and notice subliminals and symbols. They know the government is run by crazy people whose true face is always kept hidden.

EXACTLY

my own boy is 7 now and more aware than most adults...hey could teach them a thing or two...lol


as for my 2 step kids, cody 13,and jessica 18

i have completely changed them for the better,well maybe not changed 100% but they are more aware then most also and continue to make very good decissions in life.........mostly inpart because of my guidance and opinions....


i also try my best to voice my opinon to teenagers whenever i can,after evestroughing on them in line ups,or whatever..

listen to their converstions and correct their ignorance....lol
most laugh but then again most listen
50/50 i would say...

todays youth has gotta be changed or things will get bad ,very quick.

[ronisron]

clint, the only true way to change the world is to change the way you think, and how you do things. Talk is cheap, doing is another. Lead by example. Changing yourself is the best way to do it.

Here is a metaphorical example. I am an avid recycler, always have been. When the government started handing out "blue bins" back in the '90's. most people used them for storage containers. I religiously set my organized recyclables out week after week..... eventually everyone on my block started doing it, as well as my family members who I challenged about it. It wasn't my doing, but I was at least partially repsonsible for that turnaround, by sending out that vibe, and sticking to it. It wasn't a fad, it's a way of life. Hey, the City charging 2 dollars a pickup for garbage helped too :), but you understand what I'm saying. You can quietly make a difference by changing your mindset and how you do things.

[clint_giles]

clint, the only true way to change the world is to change the way you think, and how you do things. Talk is cheap, doing is another. Lead by example. Changing yourself is the best way to do it.

Here is a metaphorical example. I am an avid recycler, always have been. When the government started handing out "blue bins" back in the '90's. most people used them for storage containers. I religiously set my organized recyclables out week after week..... eventually everyone on my block started doing it, as well as my family members who I challenged about it. It wasn't my doing, but I was at least partially repsonsible for that turnaround, by sending out that vibe, and sticking to it. It wasn't a fad, it's a way of life. Hey, the City charging 2 dollars a pickup for garbage helped too :), but you understand what I'm saying. You can quietly make a difference by changing your mindset and how you do things.

agreed 100%

lead by example.

[bemore]

A huge significant part of the worlds population need to "drop" out of using the system for it to even affect any agenda.

That aint gonna happen is it.

This applies to nearly everybody but you may just be exempt from....

.....owning a television.
.....going to work.
.....Using money.
.....Voting.
.....Using the internet.
.....Anything that involves what you would class as "the system".

When they finally/if fuck us over it will be short and sharp, no time to prepare and the prepared will get quashed quite quickly.

[rreeve]

If only it were that simple!
By the time kids get to 5 years old it's probably too late already. We don't realise it but as adults all we do is try to get our kids to adapt to this reality. Every parent get excited when their child takes it's first steps. It's the same as parents enjoy watching their kids reactions to tasting new foods, feeling new textures and they buy big bright colourful toys to train their eyes. So as you see by the time they reach 5 years old their fully locked into this reality.

I dunno if it's possible to make a differance really. What would a child be like or would their perception of this reality be different if they were never trained to walk, talk and try new things etc. Would it just be an undeveloped, uneducated child or would their perception of this reality stay as it is from when they were born. It'll be too cruel to test this experiment because everyone deservse childhood development so we can never really know either way.

But going back to your point, I suppose It would still do humaity a lot of good because kids wouldn't feel the pressure to achieve financial ambitions and become more successful than their peers. They would learn to live life through love and nothing else would matter which must be a good thing.

[codie]

I had a conversation with a sort of relative about all this yesterday, she said she didn't give a shit all she cared about was her family unit and nothing else, as long as they are ok thats all that matters as she can't change anything. (she got quite angry with me but i found it quite amusing)
I said thats exactly why the world is fcked, because she is in the majority and you have the idea that you can't change shit but we could if we wanted to. (I was in no way rude about it thats not how I said it to her)
She took it personal and now hates me lol. All because I challenged her belief system.
She said none of it affected her, I said one day it will..... she should take a gander at this little pearl of wisdom.............
"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Then somebody else told me they got taken to court over not having a TV licence for half a day. I said well thats never gonna happen, but it did and she played along like a good little drone. Somebody commented that when the TV licence people come round you should be alll "yes sir, No sir" (apparently he procecuted her coz she didn't play ball at the front door, but still all illegal bollocks, she should never have agreed to understanding the point of procecution ect ect....)

Then THEN :mad: somebody tried to calm the situation by saying well thats why you must vote as your 1 vote can swing the result *face to palm*

We really REALLY are surrounded by a massive amount of sleep walkers. :rolleyes:

[rubynuts]

Yes, as an idea it's great but then.. you cannot cotrol life, what happens happens. Yes, sure you can be an inspiration.:)
Anyhow I for example am truly grateful for all the "mistakes" and all the times I felt bad in this society and for what my parets did and said because seeing and feeling that there is something totally fucked up in the world made me question and look the other way ("inside"). So in the end there was nothing wrong with growing up with the lies.. it was all just part of remembering the truth.

[danster82]

you cant change a child for the better until you change yourself, then you wont be looking to change the child but the child will change by its own choice when in your presence

[rreeve]

you cant change a child for the better until you change yourself, then you wont be looking to change the child but the child will change by its own choice when in your presence

This is absolutly correct. Thank you, very good point.

[the nine]

I had a conversation with a sort of relative about all this yesterday, she said she didn't give a shit all she cared about was her family unit and nothing else, as long as they are ok thats all that matters as she can't change anything. (she got quite angry with me but i found it quite amusing)
I said thats exactly why the world is fcked, because she is in the majority and you have the idea that you can't change shit but we could if we wanted to. (I was in no way rude about it thats not how I said it to her)
She took it personal and now hates me lol. All because I challenged her belief system.
She said none of it affected her, I said one day it will..... she should take a gander at this little pearl of wisdom.............
"THEY CAME FIRST for the Communists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Communist.

THEN THEY CAME for the Jews,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a Jew.

THEN THEY CAME for the trade unionists,
and I didn't speak up because I wasn't a trade unionist.

THEN THEY CAME for me
and by that time no one was left to speak up."

Then somebody else told me they got taken to court over not having a TV licence for half a day. I said well thats never gonna happen, but it did and she played along like a good little drone. Somebody commented that when the TV licence people come round you should be alll "yes sir, No sir" (apparently he procecuted her coz she didn't play ball at the front door, but still all illegal bollocks, she should never have agreed to understanding the point of procecution ect ect....)

Then THEN :mad: somebody tried to calm the situation by saying well thats why you must vote as your 1 vote can swing the result *face to palm*

We really REALLY are surrounded by a massive amount of sleep walkers. :rolleyes:

Are you aware of the flaws in that 'pearl of wisdom' you posted?
it relates to the conduct of the people in the second world war..there were thousands of german people who spoke out in outrage at the actions of the government and forces, they were rounded up en masse by the authorities and sent to the concentration camps..they were slaughtered en masse too..but these small details are omitted when the stories are thrown around about the evil the germans caused on the jews..its not got quite the same impact with full truth.

hope this helps. :)

[andyh]

I've already been doing this with all of my kids.
Taken them out of the UK too to avoid what's coming.

[verndewd]

we need to start a running dialogue, one specifically designed to incorporate enlightened common views and break from this paradigm of not sharing information in condensed fashion.

My idea is to get bunch of people from here to doing live conversation web casting where people ask those who have escaped the ego can respond as a group to questions in dealing with evolving.

I have a subdomain called ruthless awareness I plan on using for this platform. I really dont care if others rip the idea because it needs to happen. but the ruthless awareness idea is mine :D you canno haff teh name.

[codie]

Are you aware of the flaws in that 'pearl of wisdom' you posted?
it relates to the conduct of the people in the second world war..there were thousands of german people who spoke out in outrage at the actions of the government and forces, they were rounded up en masse by the authorities and sent to the concentration camps..they were slaughtered en masse too..but these small details are omitted when the stories are thrown around about the evil the germans caused on the jews..its not got quite the same impact with full truth.

hope this helps. :)

The point I am making was that if you are under the assumption that keeping your head down because..for example:CCTV everywhere is fine because I do not do anything that needs to be hidden, and then you Mock and laugh at those who think its an invasion of privacy.....then one day it will reach thier little cozy life in an intrusive way that they feel is no longer acceptable, and TBH it will then be too late, and TBH i will laugh too i imagine, I don't know for certain but I think I will. Because you can't force people to think in any way and thats just the way it is, even though I have gently made small points to try and make them aware of this crazy world. Anyway, its only my opinion and I may well be wrong, I am aware of this. It is a little frustrating when you try and get people thinking and you get nothing (NOTHING) from them, not a flicker lol.
I apologise if me using that paragraph scenario made you feel it was inappropriate, But thanks for the heads up.:)

[rubynuts]

My idea is to get bunch of people from here to doing live conversation web casting where people ask those who have escaped the ego...

..the ruthless awareness idea is mine :D you canno haff teh name.

:D:D looks like you escaped the ego:rolleyes: (joking, lol:))

[lakkimakki]

The only way we can change the world is,we need to change the children born into this world...........


Change for the better.

No more indoctrinating the youth with lies.....

Be open and honest and tell it like it is......

Money is fake.
People are fake.
Reality as you see it now is fake.

Im going to say from the ages 6-7 and on we need to open up their little minds to wonder and not belief !


From birth until 5 years old......let them be innocent.
After that shock and awe them so they do not become
everyday robots

like the rest of them !

bullshit

[verndewd]

:D:D looks like you escaped the ego:rolleyes: (joking, lol:))

oh noes you di int :p

[1964]

Mmm might lead to hopeless depression though.

I was thinking something similar. Unless you can offer them a true solution, you're setting them up for utter hopelessness.

[hey_jude]

...as I said to my son recently "I know I told you to question everything ...but quit questioning me when I tell you to go tidy your room" :rolleyes:

[clint_giles]

bullshit

go down another brewwsky

lol

[clint_giles]

...as I said to my son recently "I know I told you to question everything ...but quit questioning me when I tell you to go tidy your room" :rolleyes:

lol

absolutely true

or when you get
but how come your doing it?????

[1964]

...as I said to my son recently "I know I told you to question everything ...but quit questioning me when I tell you to go tidy your room" :rolleyes:

hehe ...... kids are great

[theperceivingeye]

bullshit

Wow, what an eloquent response. You make some really good points an have given us all a lot to ponder. :rolleyes:

To the OP: the idea in and of itself makes sense as ONE part of the solution (albeit a big one) but when you think about how many parents are asleep at the wheel and have basically given their children over to the control-system (& that includes parents who bring their kids up religiously thinking they are teaching them morals, etc.), things aren't looking too good for the "truth" side of things...

However a comforting thought is that some kids just seem to be immune to the control-system. They are the black sheep who never fit in for as long as they can remember.. I am proud to say I was one. Though my parents did put me in a religious school to get me away from the public education system at grade 6 so who knows what effect that had (they weren't trying to force religion on my they were just picking what they thought were the lesser of the true evils)..

How big a part do you guys & gals think the education system plays in all this? Is home-schooling the answer (assuming it's still legal by the time I have a kid:() or will that deprive the child of contact with it's peers to the point of being detrimental?

[scubadiver007]

If your kids are thinking of joining the forces, you know what to do!

[makemyday]

Old news, that children is the future, but consider this, that EVERYONE is born with a "troyan" DNA, which changes psychics (view of the world, people, desires, addictions, phobias and so on), physical and spiritual paramaters (weakened souls, karmas and bodies also lead to giving up to deception) etc.

The mass deception weapon is NOT outside of us, it is within.

So I suggest to annihilate everyone. The only way out the prison, is to die...

[dusthead]

The only way we can change the world is,we need to change the children born into this world...........


Change for the better.

No more indoctrinating the youth with lies.....

Be open and honest and tell it like it is......

Money is fake.
People are fake.
Reality as you see it now is fake.

Im going to say from the ages 6-7 and on we need to open up their little minds to wonder and not belief !


From birth until 5 years old......let them be innocent.
After that shock and awe them so they do not become
everyday robots

like the rest of them !

The Jehova's Witnesses already do that with their kids. It's cruel and has led to suicide on more than one occasion.

They force their own children to cut themselves off from the rest of society, (which they arrogantly deem 'inferior' to their own group). Having an interest in academia is also discouraged as is friendship with anyone outside the religion. The media is largely seen as a force for evil, as are politicians and everything else 'non-JW'. Children are shut away from society.

If we are teaching people to be free, it seems a bit hypocritical to restrict their freedom in terms of what they are allowed to believe.

To indoctrinate a child to see all people as 'fake' could be a very damaging thing. Shouldn't they be left to make up their own minds? Surely if they are brought up properly they will know when something is fake and when it is not yes? They will figure it out for themselves.

We should have faith in the abilities of our children to better themselves.

[sf10]

Be open and honest and tell it like it is......

Money is fake.
People are fake.
Reality as you see it now is fake.

Im going to say from the ages 6-7 and on we need to open up their little minds to wonder and not belief !


You're right, you're right, but bombarding a young mind with the truth might be a bit too much. I'd go for subtlety at first. And I think 6 is too early. More like 8-12, we should give children alternative views about reality and let them forge their own path.

Children shouldn't be forced into any religion. Once they finish their basic "education" they shouldn't be forced to go to high school. In the high school system I learned nothing, except how to use a library card. In college it was the same. I used the school as a place to do my reading, that's it. I could have skipped the whole time since I was 12 until I read Icke.

[lakkimakki]

go down another brewwsky

lol

lol burp...

[clint_giles]

lol burp...


ladies and gentlemen
i bring you the king of pointless ,one or two word posts(just go back and look at the history of lakkimaki)
meaningless in everyway.
Pointless to the cause of the betterment of humanity !

The very hypocritical lakkimaki.

(i say hypocritcal,because as you see he loves to drink,but his god
allah,is very much against alcohol)

what gives
lakkimaki?

[lakkimakki]

burp....

[clint_giles]

lol

classic.

[hey_jude]

lol

absolutely true

or when you get
but how come your doing it?????

...I ask myself that too. He's almost 12 and his room is starting to smell real bad :eek:

[cinder_darkskys]

The Human metal virus

What levels of Programing is exceptable, world wide.

What kinds of lifes do peaple really want for them selfs and others around them.

What are you willing to except.

Knowing once you except that level of program, which has to be world wide

All this for just the possabillity of 1,000 of Peace. Still knowing in the progaming, you are creating the next grand illusion, the next conspherecy.

The only way we can change the world is,we need to change the children born into this world...........


Change for the better.

No more indoctrinating the youth with lies.....

Be open and honest and tell it like it is......

Money is fake.
People are fake.
Reality as you see it now is fake.

Im going to say from the ages 6-7 and on we need to open up their little minds to wonder and not belief !


From birth until 5 years old......let them be innocent.
After that shock and awe them so they do not become
everyday robots

like the rest of them !

I agree with some of what you are saying, there needs to be a major change, and its long over do. how ever as a person of 49 going on 50, which is under the 1/2 point of Gods 120 age limit, I see much innocents un till 16 years of age and adult hood starts at about 13 years of age early teens.

Now you try telling a well educated 16 year, he wrong about any thing, which progress throw life, same gos for a 13 year old you need logic, and repatition. every thing after is adaptation. After 16 a person can be educated, but its down to mind lock and mind set, but learning becomes harder, change harder.

the only way to set or reset, a world wide mind set, is throw religion. It fact you can education a person, to take us to the moon, or do brain surgory. These are job related, education tools, to make a human fuction, in the real world, to be productive, non stagnet or non static. A basic mind set has to be world wide.

There are place on this planet that are 100,s of years behind every one else, how do you make it paletable for them, Iran and advance nation, how do you make it all plaletable for them all.

The world is not fake
It was created, but not just for us to use as we see fit. Its a bio sphere, birthing house of life.
The Garden of Eden

the problum is religion seems to have missed the point, of what its about. They have this generalized view, which all relates to one other, but can't seem to agree on this point or, that point.

Then there the exstream, there is no other way, but this way. yet they all seem to relate, by saying the same things in kind of different ways. Because there exstreamist, they fall away from the whole conception of faith.

In other words there no exceptions, so and so is unexceptable because he dose this or that.

Yet the bottem line is we are born, and we live, we all die

There a hole on Mars its a big black hole, there is no rubble around it at all, no signs of constructions, like in other locations. Its just a empty big hole with no damage other then the hole.

Reality as you see it now is fake.

I have to disagree here, whole heartedly.

Reaity can be changed, time can be changed, nothing is limited.
How we precived the world is gone, man is not all powerfull. as compaired, to these much older things. which live in symboius, with our selfs, along side of us.

To change the mind set, you have to fix the suducter of children. In doing so remaking the suducers, in doing so, becoming the suducer.

catch 22. nasty i know, this why I say. We got what we need to make these changes, it useing what we already know.

We dont need another religion. We need what have to work for us, not agaist us.

PeaceLovesAll