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eternal_spirit
12-10-2007, 01:03 PM
The making of a Sayanim
The Secret Jewish Network http://judicial-inc.biz/pyschos/Levine.jpeg http://judicial-inc.biz/Sayani5.jpg http://judicial-inc.biz/Sayani36.jpg http://judicial-inc.biz/Sayani8.jpg What Is A Sayanim ?
The Sayanim is a Jewish person, that can be called on to assist another Jew in any cause. Since birth, the Jewish people have been taught of their superiority and need for cohesion. The Sephardic Jews are the upper level of the network, and the Ashkenazim, which constitute 95% of all Jews, are the worker ants. Since the Sephardics first converted the Ashkenazim, they brainwashed them into the idea that the world is their enemy, but their fellow Jew is a "Quiet Guardian". http://judicial-inc.biz/Sayani10.jpg
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Who Is A Sayanim?
Every Jewish person is expected to be a potential agent, in varying degrees.
What Will They Do?
If the Jewish people sense a potential threat, the Jewish Sayanim is authorized to commit anything from simple harassment to business ruin, and even multiple murders. The Columbine Massacre (http://judicial-inc.biz/columbine_killers.htm) was a perfect example. The police knew there were seven people involved, but five students, two sets of parents, one employer and psychiatrists, provided alibis and corrupted evidence.
Examples
Your Jewish accountant will relay any bookkeeping info to a Jewish competitor, your friendly Jewish pharmacist will assist, your Jewish doctor, a clerk at VISA will supply credit information, the list is endless.
Sayanim Indoctrination Starts At Childhood:
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Family Life
Jewish child rarely are allowed to play with the gentiles. Around the house the child is constantly bombarded with the word Goy. .
Goy relates to menial occupations. The family maid, nannies, gardener, plumber, etc are referred to as " The Goy ".
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Grammar School
A public Jewish school will receive grants, and the best teachers are put in the district. 6th graders at these ' Magnet schools ' are the equivalent of an 8th graders at a normal school. Jewish kid's will always be eligible for the 'Gifted Programs'.
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Exceptional Jewish children are turned over to the Rabbi for future guidance.
eternal_spirit
12-10-2007, 01:04 PM
High School
In heavily Jewish communities the public schools will always have a 'Gifted program'.
For those with the resources, they will attend exclusive schools.
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College
Here is the big payoff. Entrance into the finest school is assured. All the larger Universities have Sayanims placed in key locations from the Dean (http://judicial-inc.biz/pics/Piagio86.jpg) to the Admission Officers, to the loans, and the scholarship personnel. Societies, such as Hillel, (http://www.hillel.org/) will shepherd a young Jew throughout his college career.
Jewish professors will always favor the Jewish student. Jewish students make up 30% of the Ivy League (http://judicial-inc.biz/Sayanim_supplement.htm), which they credit to their extraordinary IQ's, which is a myth. (http://judicial-inc.biz/jewish_iq.htm)
Law schools, such as Yale (http://judicial-inc.biz/Yale_Law.htm), can have an enrollment of 60% +.
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Business World
In any Jewish controlled company, you are given first preference in job interviews
If you are a businessman, you get the preferential treatment on contracts where another Jewish person is involved.
Getting a bank loan is a cinch.
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Government
Jews have lined government offices with their people.
Student loans get erased
A business competitor can have a regulatory agency put on him.
The Judicial is 40% Jewish and another 35% are minorities they control.
So What Is Expected Of A Sayanim?
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The standard Sayanim routine is basically favoring other Jews in ordinary transactions, but you can be called on to protect any criminal enterprise. From the traffic court Judge to to an Appellate Judge - fellow sayanims receive special treatment.
The special Sayanim ( 200,000 of them worldwide ) will be expected to cooperate in any Mossad enterprise including murder, sabotage and any form of Fifth Column activity. A division of the Mossad ( Katsas (http://feralnews.com/issues/israeli_espionage/bwod_86-9.html) ) keeps records, and stays in active contact with this group.
Most daring Sayanim operation (http://judicial-inc.biz/pyschos/Boca_teenager_shot.htm)
Typical Sayanim operation (http://judicial-inc.biz/mosul_mess_hall.htm)
Venezuela Assassination (http://judicial-inc.biz/venezuela_assassination.htm)
Gary Webb (http://judicial-inc.biz/Gary_webb.htm)
The hoax of Entebbe (http://judicial-inc.biz/entebbe.htm)
tinmenace
12-10-2007, 01:09 PM
Fascinating!
eternal_spirit
12-10-2007, 01:32 PM
Webb Wrote About the South American Drug Trade
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Gary Webb Was Digging A Little Too Deep Into S.A. Drug Politics
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Toledo is married to a elite Jewish woman , and his Vice-President is Jewish.
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Background
Gary Webb, a Pulitzer Prize-winning investigative reporter who wrote a series of stories linking the CIA to crack cocaine trafficking in Los Angeles, is dead at age 49. Webb was found Friday morning at his home in Sacramento County, dead of an apparent suicide (shot twice in the head).
eternal_spirit
12-10-2007, 01:33 PM
Going A Little Deeper
As Webb became more involved, his research showed that Jewish interests were the ones really controlling the South American drug trade.
Webb was working on a new book that exposed the real masters of the drug trade, when two Mossad agents paid him a visit.
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Rumors Of A New Book
Drug battle about to begin.
The book speculated on a trans-national drug war about to explode in South America. Speculation was that Chavez of Venezuela was going to buck Colombia, and that Argentina's Kirschner and Guatemala's Berger would back Colombia. Colombia is the coca capitol of the world.
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Chavez Would Ride In As the "White Knight"
Venezuela is the fifth greatest oil exporter in the world. A South American reformer to clean up the drug trade. President Chavez has ordered 50 Mig-29 fighters, 40 Mi-35 helicopters, and 100,000 AK-47 assault rifles to help his nation defend against Colombia.
Colombia received $3.3 billion in US military assistance (Used to protect the drug trade and fight rebels) from Clinton in 2000. But, this was mainly for helicopters and transport planes - No match for Mig-29's.
Gary Webb would never be allowed to write his book about this.
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Israel in Colombia
Five IDF helicopters (http://www.ynetnews.com/Ext/Comp/ArticleLayout/CdaArticlePrintPreview/1,2506,L-3166377,00.html) were found in the possession of a South American drug Mafia (http://www.nationalvanguard.org/story.php?id=2995) operation.
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Chavez Cracks Down
On 11/15/05, Venezuela has razed ten drug laboratories along the border with Colombia, during an operation that also stamped out 597 acres of poppy, marijuana, and cocaine fields.
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The Real Truth - There Are No Colombian Cartels.
Drugs are a $400 billion dollar a year business, and it has always been controlled by Jewish traders since the days when Sassoon ran the Chinese heroin trade in the 1700's. South America has a $50 billion dollar per year cocaine and marijuana trade.
eternal_spirit
12-10-2007, 04:54 PM
It's easy to see the them and us mentality they live by. These people are like a secret society for themselves.
mr jones
12-10-2007, 05:09 PM
Fascinating!
its Fascinating that you find it Fascinating!
raffles
12-10-2007, 05:44 PM
Great post eternal, some very good info there.
mr jones
12-10-2007, 06:06 PM
its sick!
tiswas
12-10-2007, 06:25 PM
why is it sick?
mr jones
12-10-2007, 06:29 PM
jewish supremacy makes me sick. calling the non-jewish "Goyem" is racist
joss classey
12-10-2007, 06:33 PM
this thread stinks of bullshit
raffles
12-10-2007, 06:35 PM
jewish supremacy makes me sick. calling the non-jewish "Goyem" is racist
Very true, imagine if the boot was on the other foot.
They would be shouting anti-semitic from the rooftops.
eternal_spirit
12-10-2007, 09:58 PM
this thread stinks of bullshit
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And when they try to cover it in bullshit the truth sure as shit is shit shines through.
damagedbrainn
13-10-2007, 01:59 AM
And they're able to get away with all this corruption and secrecy due to their uncanny ability to assimilate or "blend in" with virtually any culture. Their ability and compulsion to mask their identity makes them quite adept at infiltration and usurption of wealth and power.
If only there were some way to force them to identify themselves in order to subvert these methods of theirs. Something which would make it impossible for them to conceal themselves. Like maybe some sort of badge they could wear, or a tattoo.
eternal_spirit
13-10-2007, 12:51 PM
If only there were some way to force them to identify themselves in order to subvert these methods of theirs. Something which would make it impossible for them to conceal themselves. Like maybe some sort of badge they could wear, or a tattoo.
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As if they would, same could be said for Masons.
mr jones
13-10-2007, 01:32 PM
And they're able to get away with all this corruption and secrecy due to their uncanny ability to assimilate or "blend in" with virtually any culture. Their ability and compulsion to mask their identity makes them quite adept at infiltration and usurption of wealth and power.
If only there were some way to force them to identify themselves in order to subvert these methods of theirs. Something which would make it impossible for them to conceal themselves. Like maybe some sort of badge they could wear, or a tattoo.
:D like somekind of star that they wear ;)
Like maybe some sort of badge they could wear, or a tattoo.
:D like somekind of star that they wear ;)
I am sure you people meant this as a joke but I doubt that the people who survived Nazi Germany, and who were subjected to being branded with tattoos and stars, would find it very amusing.
A little insensitive perhaps?
mr jones
13-10-2007, 02:43 PM
I am sure you people meant this as a joke but I doubt that the people who survived Nazi Germany, and who were subjected to being branded with tattoos and stars, would find it very amusing.
A little insensitive perhaps?
a joke in bad taste perhaps. although i think that was the reason they had to wear those badges
eternal_spirit
13-10-2007, 02:52 PM
The point is the Jews work together like some secret society. They are for themselves and against you/us/me. If anyone else worked like this they would be called racist, prejudiced.
There has been enough posts to prove this point over and over. If you still think I'm the racist, you are blind to reality, which is after much research the only conclusion I can conclude is that some Jews are the most racist people on the planet.
tiswas
13-10-2007, 02:56 PM
Go into the website Jewish task force, I have seen some really completely racist drivel in that.
Did you know Eternal, that they hate black people and they love Ann 'take a woman's vote' Coulter. But eternal, you cannot blame all the people of the Jewish faith for certain things.
mr jones
13-10-2007, 03:13 PM
eternal spirit, it was a good post. people seem to accept jewish supremacist views and attack any opposition to non-white supremacy.
there is something seriously wrong with a society that condones racially exclusive organisations for non-whites while outlawing racially exclusive organisations for white people.
whatever happend to racial equality?
tinmenace
13-10-2007, 03:23 PM
I just have an objection to making fun of real suffering, whether it be toward Jews or Christians, or Muslims. I'm talking about the insensitive comments about the stars and the tattoos. Those people were the fodder for the Zionist war and agenda against mankind, and making fun of their suffering is beyond my comprehension.
The Holocaust may be overstated as far as numbers go, but there WERE victims who suffered more than any of us have ever suffered, and to joke about it is fucking sick.
Why don't we start joking about children being molested?
Or, animals being tortured?
It's the same thing. It's suffering, and it was enforced by people that had no right to do it.
How are jokes like this even tolerated? It has nothing to do with the Zionist agenda, which IS wrong. Thinking it's funny that people, along with children and the elderly were tattooed like animals, and had to wear a star to make an example of them, to incite further hatred toward them is beyond my understanding.
What the fuck is going on here? :confused:
peachped
13-10-2007, 03:26 PM
"The point is the Jews work together like some secret society. They are for themselves and against you/us/me. If anyone else worked like this they would be called racist, prejudiced."
What, all Jews? Surely not.
razed1
13-10-2007, 03:26 PM
very interesting posts eternal, thanks!
mr jones
13-10-2007, 03:34 PM
tinmenace, wearing star badges on clothes is older than the nazy party. and long before any Holocaust. i'm not atacking what you said though. its wrong isnt it
tinmenace
13-10-2007, 04:00 PM
tinmenace, wearing star badges on clothes is older than the nazy party. and long before any Holocaust. i'm not atacking what you said though. its wrong isnt it
I just think that in this context, it's wrong to joke because there were REAL victims involved that weren't there by choice, or by accident.
It was forced upon them by a hidden agenda, which chose THIS particular group of people to victimize, even to this day. The Zionists continue to abuse the Jews by brainwashing them that they ARE entitled to more than anyone else, and that they ARE entitled to more protection, simply because they're Jewish.
This ongoing victimization is perpetuated so that the Zionists can do their thing behind the scenes, which has nothing to do with religion.
I think that to attack the Jews because the Zionists have placed them as the pawns in the front row, is missing the entire plot of the agenda. They are being used as fodder, and a lot of people are totally taking the bait by attacking Jews personally when many Jews are also just victims of mind-control and manipulation. A front!
razed1
13-10-2007, 04:10 PM
eternal spirit, it was a good post. people seem to accept jewish supremacist views and attack any opposition to non-white supremacy.
there is something seriously wrong with a society that condones racially exclusive organisations for non-whites while outlawing racially exclusive organisations for white people.
whatever happend to racial equality?
yea this is true
just look at the existence of the STATE of israel, (not a country, but state owned by british)
the only purpose and reason for its existence, is becuase these jews (who populate it) beleive they are the 'chosen' ones by god, all other races on earth are below them
we know that the illuminati has created certain situations and paradigms where jews around the world were taught to think they are being vicitmized by every1 else, thus they need a country of their own, so they ripped up palestinian neighbourhoods, so yuppy jews can live in their subdivisions
the blame is obviously on the elites who serve neither the jewish cattle, or any other races cattle
but these jewish ppl who buy into all this chosen ppl crap, and there are quite a few, look how many ppl chose to move to israel, theyre gonna learn a very devious lesson
the very first toy a jew boy gets, is a dradel, a GAMBLING toy
while the other cultures of around the world, blacks in africa, east indians, native indians, aborigines, these cultures at the ROOT tech spriituality, a teaching of something beyond this 5 sense world
the jewish 'culture' is strictly designed from the get-go, to keep a person's consciousness in the 5 sense reality, circumcision is a part of this
i put modern day crhistian culture and muslim cutlure in the SAME catergory as the jewish culture above
these arent natural to humans beings, but to the modern man, who has no place for spirituality in his life, then the jewish/x-tian/muslim paradigms make ALOT of sense
thats why alot of jewish last names are like, newMAN, freeMAN, goldMAN, cashMAN
lol at the last one, thats an actual last name, and just shows you the #1 priority in some ppl's lives
mr jones
13-10-2007, 04:22 PM
there are even racially exclusive organisations like NAACP which are acceptable organisations. a group of people started an organisation called NAAWP and were defamed as racists because it questioned why can't white people have some racially exclusive organisations just like all other ethnic groups
seanx
13-10-2007, 04:34 PM
Tinmenace wroe:
I just think that in this context, it's wrong to joke because there were REAL victims involved that weren't there by choice, or by accident.
It was forced upon them by a hidden agenda, which chose THIS particular group of people to victimize, even to this day. The Zionists continue to abuse the Jews by brainwashing them that they ARE entitled to more than anyone else, and that they ARE entitled to more protection, simply because they're Jewish.
This ongoing victimization is perpetuated so that the Zionists can do their thing behind the scenes, which has nothing to do with religion.
I think that to attack the Jews because the Zionists have placed them as the pawns in the front row, is missing the entire plot of the agenda. They are being used as fodder, and a lot of people are totally taking the bait by attacking Jews personally when many Jews are also just victims of mind-control and manipulation. A front!
A becaon of light among all the dribble in this thread.
They are being used as fodder, and a lot of people are totally taking the bait by attacking Jews personally when many Jews are also just victims of mind-control and manipulation. A front
No matter how many times you say it - some people can't get beyond
their own hate. Can't get beyond the label.
Do some Jews think they are the chosen people? I have, no doubt
there are many.
But go back a few years, when they had a Empire - and many British
people thought ( and lot still do- go to any Tory party conference)
that they were ( are) superior to all other races.
Why? Because that's what they were taught ( brainwashed) in their
posh private schools and by their leaders. Should we condemn all
British people then. Of course not.
mr jones
13-10-2007, 04:39 PM
true, we should all feel superior to others. there's no point wishing to be weaker than others
razed1
13-10-2007, 05:11 PM
Tinmenace wroe:
A becaon of light among all the dribble in this thread.
No matter how many times you say it - some people can't get beyond
their own hate. Can't get beyond the label.
Do some Jews think they are the chosen people? I have, no doubt
there are many.
But go back a few years, when they had a Empire - and many British
people thought ( and lot still do- go to any Tory party conference)
that they were ( are) superior to all other races.
Why? Because that's what they were taught ( brainwashed) in their
posh private schools and by their leaders. Should we condemn all
British people then. Of course not.
yea but just because they are exposed to brainwashing attempts, doesnt excuse them,
many ppl wake up amidst the brainwashing, if there are weak willed ppl , then call them on that, lets not make excuses for them
just like god, its nothing personal
tinmenace
13-10-2007, 05:18 PM
yea but just because they are exposed to brainwashing attempts, doesnt excuse them,
The majority of Jews are brainwashed into believing that they are more special and privileged than others. A lot of non-Jews are brainwashed into believing that it's all the Jews' fault.
It's misdirected blame.
The same people brainwashing them into believing they are special, are the same people brainwashing us that it's actually a JEWISH problem, when the reality of it is that it's a ZIONIST problem.
The more they keep us busy focusing on the Jews, the less we're watching the hidden hand manipulating the agenda behind the scenes.
mr jones
13-10-2007, 05:25 PM
zionists are jewish supremacists
razed1
13-10-2007, 05:35 PM
The majority of Jews are brainwashed into believing that they are more special and privileged than others. A lot of non-Jews are brainwashed into believing that it's all the Jews' fault.
It's misdirected blame.
The same people brainwashing them into believing they are special, are the same people brainwashing us that it's actually a JEWISH problem, when the reality of it is that it's a ZIONIST problem.
youre right it is the zionists, but if the head is zionists, then the body is made up of these brainwashed jews, if these jews were alerted to the truth, then the zionists wouldnt have a leg to stand on
so whereas i agree that this isnt the jewish cattle's fault, but it is becuase they kept the system going, that i do put the blame in on em,
dont forget, youre making this into just a country, national level,
the whole reason that freemasonry has been able to keep its secrets hidden and passed on all these centuries, is mostly becuase of it is an occult jewish tradition, the ceremonies, rituals are moslty based on hebrew teachings,
so theres a much more dark nature to the reason why ppl 'bash jews'
they didnt have ADL and bnai brith back in the middle ages, but ppl still most ppl had an antagonistic view towards a person calling himslef a 'jew'
if do your research, a very sinister pictures starts to evolve that they dont want you to kno about
so i disagree that ppl just 'hate jews' becuase the their racist, or they just need to blame someone, theres something more sinister goin on....
tinmenace
13-10-2007, 05:42 PM
youre right it is the zionists, but if the head is zionists, then the body is made up of these brainwashed jews, if these jews were alerted to the truth, then the zionists wouldnt have a leg to stand on
so whereas i agree that this isnt the jewish cattle's fault, but it is becuase they kept the system going, that i do put the blame in on em,
dont forget, youre making this into just a country, national level,
the whole reason that freemasonry has been able to keep its secrets hidden and passed on all these centuries, is mostly becuase of it is an occult jewish tradition, the ceremonies, rituals are moslty based on hebrew teachings,
so theres a much more dark nature to the reason why ppl 'bash jews'
they didnt have ADL and bnai brith back in the middle ages, but ppl still most ppl had an antagonistic view towards a person calling himslef a 'jew'
if do your research, a very sinister pictures starts to evolve that they dont want you to kno about
so i disagree that ppl just 'hate jews' becuase the their racist, or they just need to blame someone, theres something more sinister goin on....
That's the thing, it's not just the Jews that keep this system in place. The Christians also believe that the Jews are the chosen people. It's a whole network of mind-control and the USA is the country with the largest population of Christians, I believe.
Once again, you're blaming the Jews for not seeing past their manipulated state of mind, but you are unable to maneuver your own self out of your manipulated mind set which tells you that the Jews are responsible because they aren't holding the Zionists responsible, many of which aren't even Jewish, btw.
We have to step completely back and away, and look at it from a neutral angle.
mr jones
13-10-2007, 05:55 PM
dont forget Judeo-Christianity was forced onto the people punishable by death. Judeo-christianity murdered millions of people.
the way i see it, Christians dont really benefit from a religion that calls them second class to god's chosen people. who benefits?
seanx
13-10-2007, 05:57 PM
youre right it is the zionists, but if the head is zionists, then the body is made up of these brainwashed jews, if these jews were alerted to the truth, then the zionists wouldnt have a leg to stand on
How can you blame the jews for not been alert to their brainwashing-
when you're not ALERT to yours.
You can't see beyond the jews - or beyond the Christians
or whatever mind-controlled religion people belong to - to the
MIND-SET , the state of TOTAL fear that is pulling and
creating all these strings.
It like been a kid and watching Punch & Judy - and blaming the
puppets for what's happening. And forgetting all about the 'entity'
behind them that has his hands up their arse!
seanx
13-10-2007, 05:59 PM
who benefits?
Exactly. Who benefits?
razed1
13-10-2007, 06:05 PM
That's the thing, it's not just the Jews that keep this system in place. The Christians also believe that the Jews are the chosen people. It's a whole network of mind-control and the USA is the country with the largest population of Christians, I believe.
Once again, you're blaming the Jews for not seeing past their manipulated state of mind, but you are unable to maneuver your own self out of your manipulated mind set which tells you that the Jews are responsible because they aren't holding the Zionists responsible, many of which aren't even Jewish, btw.
We have to step completely back and away, and look at it from a neutral angle.
you should do more research into where the jewish belief system really got formed, and you should find out why through time , jews have always been thought of as greedy money grubbers
of course, i blame the so called american good ol boys for letting them ruin the usa, but also blame regular jews for populating the elites 'main engine' for world domination, which is israel, if these ppl didnt move there and populate their system, then israel wouldnt have been formed, or would rather be joke in the world, for thoose zionists who wanted to create it, they wouldnt have an excuse, but the truth is millions of ppl went to israel, and blindly overlook the fact that millions of palestinians lost the ir homes and lives so their can 'settle' in
i know ppl can say, oh theres evil ppl and elites in every race, so why single out the jews, well the truth is, as far as races are concernd jews are occupying a priveleged status,
the fact that they can blend in with the living culture, and parasisitcally live off it, while openly being patriotic, lets say to the USA, and secretly having allegiance to their own kind, this has been used and reused over time, throught various countries, russia, europe etc,
^^^ so far in all my research, this is unlike any behaviour demonstrated by anothr other race/creed
eternal_spirit
13-10-2007, 06:10 PM
Exactly. Who benefits?
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The Jews not me or you.
eternal_spirit
13-10-2007, 06:13 PM
you should do more research into where the jewish belief system really got formed, and you should find out why through time , jews have always been thought of as greedy money grubbers
of course, i blame the so called american good ol boys for letting them ruin the usa, but also blame regular jews for populating the elites 'main engine' for world domination, which is israel, if these ppl didnt move there and populate their system, then israel wouldnt have been formed, or would rather be joke in the world, for thoose zionists who wanted to create it, they wouldnt have an excuse, but the truth is millions of ppl went to israel, and blindly overlook the fact that millions of palestinians lost the ir homes and lives so their can 'settle' in
i know ppl can say, oh theres evil ppl and elites in every race, so why single out the jews, well the truth is, as far as races are concernd jews are occupying a priveleged status,
the fact that they can blend in with the living culture, and parasisitcally live off it, while openly being patriotic, lets say to the USA, and secretly having allegiance to their own kind, this has been used and reused over time, throught various countries, russia, europe etc,
^^^ so far in all my research, this is unlike any behaviour demonstrated by anothr other race/creed
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I have come to the same conclusion
tinmenace
13-10-2007, 06:14 PM
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The Jews not me or you.
But it's orchestrated that way. So that the Jews will relish in their fake sense of entitlement, and the rest of the people will resent them for it.
Ongoing manipulation using the DIVIDE AND CONQUER tactic.
Most Jews today aren't even Semites, so clearly this whole thing is orchestrated and constructed on a bunch of bullshit lies.
Hating the Jews for what the manipulators do is equally as ignorant as their fake sense of importance over the rest of mankind.
I have nothing more to say on this thread. I've said all I can say.
razed1
13-10-2007, 06:22 PM
How can you blame the jews for not been alert to their brainwashing-
when you're not ALERT to yours.
You can't see beyond the jews - or beyond the Christians
or whatever mind-controlled religion people belong to - to the
MIND-SET , the state of TOTAL fear that is pulling and
creating all these strings.
It like been a kid and watching Punch & Judy - and blaming the
puppets for what's happening. And forgetting all about the 'entity'
behind them that has his hands up their arse!
yes but humans are not puppets are they?
we have been given rational intelligence, the victims of religious and govt brainwashing in the end ultimately have to turn off their intelligence in order for the brainwashing to work/make sense
there are MANY writers of jewish background, who saw throught the brainwashing and wrote materials condemning zionists and zionist philosphy
but what im saying is there is still many ppl who are buying
so what makes these ppl different from lets say a black person beleiving in their respective religious/gopvt brainwashing??
jews happen to occupy a peculiar role in the world politics, business, etc, ill admit this makes it harder for a person born jewish nowadays, to 'do the right thing'
but that still doenst negate the TRUTH of the reality
you talk how im brainwashed into blaming jews, not doing that, but rather id say YOUR under brainwashing, to just blame everything on zionists, and not really look at the mechanics at work
the brainwashing that jews cattle face, is different (obviously) than other brainwashing to otehr groups, but to buy into it?
now that requires a really satanic mindset, even moreso thatn other races
seanx
13-10-2007, 06:27 PM
know ppl can say, oh theres evil ppl and elites in every race, so why single out the jews, well the truth is, as far as races are concernd jews are occupying a priveleged status,
the fact that they can blend in with the living culture, and parasisitcally live off it, while openly being patriotic, lets say to the USA, and secretly having allegiance to their own kind, this has been used and reused over time, throught various countries, russia, europe etc,
But you could say the same about the Irish in the USA?
There are over 40 million Irish-americans - in fact, at one stage,
in the ninities, over 75% of the leading American CEO were
of Irish-American decent.
Now - why do you think that Ireland for such a small country
gets the lion's share of American investment in Europe?
Why have Google, Intel, Paypal, etc all base their european
headquathers and main investment in Ireland?
People think it's only because of low corporation tax rates here -
but the main reason is: influence
If all things are equal, in terms of tax rates and availability of
skilled labour, Irish-American business leaders will always choose
Ireland. Simply human nature. The country their grandparents or
great grandparents came from.
Likewise, jewish people will naturally favour israel.
It's human nature.
What's wrong, of course is the terrible imbalance in the funds
the America Government gives to israel - and the pittance, if any
if gives to the poorer arab countries.
So the Arabs need to wake up - and organize in America.
Learn the power-game that the Irish and Jewish people did
when they arrived in America.
eternal_spirit
13-10-2007, 06:33 PM
Yes seanx can just see Bush and his looney boys waving the Irish flag, a pint of guinness in other hand and shamrock leaf in mouth. And all the Irish names heading big business, media and Banks NOT!
mr jones
13-10-2007, 06:39 PM
i have enjoyed reading this thread. alot of decent thoughts and opinions have been shared. it helps to get a better understanding of things.
usually the word racist gets thrown at people too easily
razed1
13-10-2007, 06:41 PM
But you could say the same about the Irish in the USA?
There are over 40 million Irish-americans - in fact, at one stage,
in the ninities, over 75% of the leading American CEO were
of Irish-American decent.
Now - why do you think that Ireland for such a small country
gets the lion's share of American investment in Europe?
Why have Google, Intel, Paypal, etc all base their european
headquathers and main investment in Ireland?
People think it's only because of low corporation tax rates here -
but the main reason is: influence
If all things are equal, in terms of tax rates and availability of
skilled labour, Irish-American business leaders will always choose
Ireland. Simply human nature. The country their grandparents or
great grandparents came from.
Likewise, jewish people will naturally favour israel.
It's human nature.
What's wrong, of course is the terrible imbalance in the funds
the America Government gives to israel - and the pittance, if any
if gives to the poorer arab countries.
So the Arabs need to wake up - and organize in America.
Learn the power-game that the Irish and Jewish people did
when they arrived in America.
no you cant equate irish influence = jewish influence
thats simply not true
irish ppl, they have a history, the irish folklore, the country, the tradition
i dont think the same cannot be said for jewsih ppl
the culture of a jewish person is the culture of whatever country they happen to be in, jew in morrocco, morrocan, jew in germany, german
so theres something fishy going on here
eternal_spirit
13-10-2007, 06:45 PM
the culture of a jewish person is the culture of whatever country they happen to be in, jew in morrocco, morrocan, jew in germany, german
so theres something fishy going on here
...................
Some researchers say there is no such thing as a Jewish race. So it must be more of a religion or an exclusive club. Seems more Satanic than Godly too me.
razed1
13-10-2007, 06:49 PM
you should hear a interview of tsarion on rense
he was listing mad quotes of ppl (mostly jewish writers themselves) who were basically saying that the WHOLE rituals and hierarchy system of freemasonry was based on jewish
so if there is anything culture or 'system' that CAN be attributed to the jewish system, it is freemasonry
well if thats the case, then you should ask,
"hey whats the big secret for??" why do these common jewish ppl patronize a system where the whole thing is based on secret and elitist classes
like i said something fishy is goin on here, and it stinks!
eternal_spirit
13-10-2007, 06:50 PM
The Babylonian Talmud may hold some clues. The tile is the first clue.
eternal_spirit
13-10-2007, 06:54 PM
you should hear a interview of tsarion on rense
he was listing mad quotes of ppl (mostly jewish writers themselves) who were basically saying that the WHOLE rituals and hierarchy system of freemasonry was based on jewish
so if there is anything culture or 'system' that CAN be attributed to the jewish system, it is freemasonry
well if thats the case, then you should ask,
"hey whats the big secret for??" why do these common jewish ppl patronize a system where the whole thing is based on secret and elitist classes
like i said something fishy is goin on here, and it stinks!
..............
Not something I've looked into but was going to raise this question which has been bothering me for a while now ( The Jew Masonic connection?) by starting another tread. But the Jewish lapdog thought control forum members would be onto me faster than the AD(J)L.
razed1
13-10-2007, 07:04 PM
yes that would be nice
is any1 reading this has info on the jewish/masonic roots connection
plz feel free to post, it would be most interesting
mr jones
13-10-2007, 07:12 PM
freemasonry never used to be jewish, the founding fathers of america were all freemasons and none of them were jewish.
razed1
13-10-2007, 07:19 PM
freemasonry never used to be jewish, the founding fathers of america were all freemasons and none of them were jewish.
freemason themselves, their not all jewish, thats just ridiculous
but who set up the system of freemasonry? where do the rituals these freemasons participate in, where do they come from??
tinmenace
13-10-2007, 07:23 PM
freemasonry never used to be jewish, the founding fathers of america were all freemasons and none of them were jewish.
Yes, but consider this:
Mormonism and Freemasonry are so intimately interwoven and interrelated that the two can never be dissociated.
freemason.org (http://www.freemason.org/cfo/may_june_2001/mormon.htm)
Latter-day Saints believe themselves to be either direct descendants of the House of Israel, or adopted into it. As such, Judaism is foundational to the history of Mormonism; Jews are looked upon as a covenant people of God, held in high esteem, and are respected in the Mormon faith system. The LDS church is consequently very philo-Semitic by doctrine.
Source (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Mormonism_and_Judaism)
It's a web. There's a trap and angle for every person they're trying to control.
tintin
13-10-2007, 07:26 PM
I have posted a lot on unhived mind forum.
The boss of that forum talks a lot about other sites
being "JEW BASHING" sites.
He says that all those ROTSCHILDS are just
HOFJUDEN, working fo the JESUITS.
That's all nonsense of course.
Those jews are not stupid.
Do people really think that those millions of jews would
accept to be ruled byJESUITS?
No, of course not, because they aren't.
The KAHAZARIAN jews are fully integrated in
all the ROYAL bloodlines and once in a while
they sacrifice a bunch of their own FAKE jews.
Important members of the ILLUMIES....
razed1
13-10-2007, 07:31 PM
yea thats another HYPOCRISY that needs to be exposed
like 80+% of ppl who call themselves jewish nowadays are KHAZARIAN jews
mass conversion to jewish that happened some time ago
and these ppl have NO descendcy or bloodties (imo i dont think any jews lving today have any ties) to the so called god chosen ppl who llived in israel 2000 yrs ago
these khazars probabaly wont even be able to trace their family tree back a coupl generations
but yet all these so called 'chosen' who occupy israel today are of this khazarian background
just more proof of the hypocrisy of it all
mr jones
13-10-2007, 07:33 PM
a real jew is ethnically jewish so a fake jew will be jewish by religion of choice.
tinmenace
13-10-2007, 07:34 PM
yea thats another HYPOCRISY that needs to be exposed
like 80+% of ppl who call themselves jewish nowadays are KHAZARIAN jews
mass conversion to jewish that happened some time ago
and these ppl have NO descendcy or bloodties (imo i dont think any jews lving today have any ties) to the so called god chosen ppl who llived in israel 2000 yrs ago
these khazars probabaly wont even be able to trace their family tree back a coupl generations
but yet all these so called 'chosen' who occupy israel today are of this khazarian background
just more proof of the hypocrisy of it all
Agreed!
eternal_spirit
13-10-2007, 07:35 PM
I have posted a lot on unhived mind forum.
The boss of that forum talks a lot about other sites
being "JEW BASHING" sites.
He says that all those ROTSCHILDS are just
HOFJUDEN, working fo the JESUITS.
That's all nonsense of course.
Those jews are not stupid.
Do people really think that those millions of jews would
accept to be ruled byJESUITS?
No, of course not, because they aren't.
The KAHAZARIAN jews are fully integrated in
all the ROYAL bloodlines and once in a while
they sacrifice a bunch of their own FAKE jews.
Important members of the ILLUMIES....
................
Oh what a coincidence I'm always accused of being a Nazi or posting info from alleged far right groups ( Which I don't think really exist ) The ones that do are usually set up by the Zionists, to make it appear that other races/peoples are anti semitic.
I don't buy the whole black pope and Jesuits are the main controllers either, there just isn't enough evidence to prove this. ( or just evidence put out by Zionist agents as usual so people will point the finger away from them )
seanx
13-10-2007, 07:49 PM
Eternal spirit wrote:
Yes seanx can just see Bush and his looney boys waving the Irish flag, a pint of guinness in other hand and shamrock leaf in mouth. And all the Irish names heading big business, media and Banks NOT!
Maybe you want to see conspiracy everywhere - especially if
Jews are involved - when there can be simpler, more common-sense
reasons.
Here are the figures from US Department of Commerce figures.
They show that US companies investment in Ireland exceeds
$73 billion
Now why do you think one of the smallest countries in Europe gets
the lions share of US investment?
Attractive tax rates - and the influence of the Irish-American
Lobby.
The Jewish lobby is even more organized and poweful in US. And what
these two groups got in common?
For the Irish in America - it was the horror of the
Famine - over 1 and a half million deaths - and for the Jews - the
holercaust.
People always tend to help their own.
mr jones
13-10-2007, 07:58 PM
They show that US companies investment in Ireland exceeds
$73 billion
u.s.a. gives more money than that to isreal in "loans" that dont have to be paid back.
Since 1973, Israel has cost the United States about $1.6 trillion. If divided by today's population, that is more than $5,700 per person.
Economist tallies swelling cost of Israel to US
http://www.csmonitor.com/2002/1209/p16s01-wmgn.html
razed1
13-10-2007, 08:02 PM
Now why do you think one of the smallest countries in Europe gets
the lions share of US investment?
cause theyre magically delicious! and theyre so darn cute in their green lil clothes and four leaf clovers all up in their bowler hat!
razed1
13-10-2007, 08:04 PM
but seriously could it be that they want the whole ireland/NRA warring state to continue??
mr jones
13-10-2007, 08:09 PM
but seriously could it be that they want the whole ireland/NRA warring state to continue??
no its because america used to be a part of the british empire. so by supporting the republic of ireland they can defy great britain :D
megafish33
13-10-2007, 08:31 PM
ES, we are the chosen people! Just look at all the threads about some big global conspiracy run by Jews. It must be a conspiracy. ;)
There is no "sayanim secret jewish society." Sayanim is a word used to describe Jews living outside of Israel, as foreign citizens, who volunteer to help the Mossad. Help includes money, logistical support, intelligence, and medical care. While this may be obvious to others, it clearly isn't more you, so let me just bring out that NOT ALL JEWS help the Mossad! Half of us(or more) don't agree with Israeli policy so why even bother?! The same can be said of over intelligence agencies. That's how they work. It's not exclusive to Jews, especially not those who really do think they're "chosen people," since those types believe some man from the sky will help them... despite all the defamation and ridicule their people receive from. Speaking of those people... their core belief isn't "racist," despite being religious garbage. Being "chosen" by their god, "G-d," means they are supposed to be a light to the nations and a witness to their creator. Many Jewish communities embrace gentiles(which isn't a racist term, get over yourself), especially religious ones who believe in the god of Abraham and live by the Noahide laws. In Jewish history these laws came before the separate laws for Jews. The only difference between those universal laws and the Torah is that the Jews are supposedly in some covenant contract with that invisible man in the sky.
Also, a frat or club or group is not evidence of anything more than what it is in face value. Without evidence, I can post a picture and link of any fucking group, claim it's own and run by Jews and only helps Jews, post it here with a different screen name, and watch as a applauds and cheers come in, without having actually posting anything relevant to conspiracies that actually occur. :rolleyes:
Search for all the clubs and groups that help out their various minority communities, you'll find that there's a lot more of them than specifically Jewish clubs. My neighborhood has Indian, Arabic, Pacific Islander, and Chinese groups, yet I don't scream conspiracy. I actually think it's awesome. Just like Jewish immigrants from a different time, the next generations are becoming "elites," in that they're embracing the American constitution, starting businesses, and sending their kids off to great universities! Just like secular Jews before them, that's all they care about, their families, they aren't trying to take over the world... think outside your box dude.
razed1
13-10-2007, 08:45 PM
do you megafish, as what youve seen on forums like this and others
see that the god, that did the choosing all that long time ago, was nothing more than a what you might call 'annunaki' visitor to earth, jehovah, being a humanoid alien with whatever 'psychic' or technological powers he might have had
do you agree with the above??
tintin
13-10-2007, 09:02 PM
ES, we are the chosen people! Just look at all the threads about some big global conspiracy run by Jews. It must be a conspiracy. ;)
There is no "sayanim secret jewish society." Sayanim is a word used to describe Jews living outside of Israel, as foreign citizens, who volunteer to help the Mossad. Help includes money, logistical support, intelligence, and medical care. While this may be obvious to others, it clearly isn't more you, so let me just bring out that NOT ALL JEWS help the Mossad! Half of us(or more) don't agree with Israeli policy so why even bother?! The same can be said of over intelligence agencies. That's how they work. It's not exclusive to Jews, especially not those who really do think they're "chosen people," since those types believe some man from the sky will help them... despite all the defamation and ridicule their people receive from. Speaking of those people... their core belief isn't "racist," despite being religious garbage. Being "chosen" by their god, "G-d," means they are supposed to be a light to the nations and a witness to their creator. Many Jewish communities embrace gentiles(which isn't a racist term, get over yourself), especially religious ones who believe in the god of Abraham and live by the Noahide laws. In Jewish history these laws came before the separate laws for Jews. The only difference between those universal laws and the Torah is that the Jews are supposedly in some covenant contract with that invisible man in the sky.
Also, a frat or club or group is not evidence of anything more than what it is in face value. Without evidence, I can post a picture and link of any fucking group, claim it's own and run by Jews and only helps Jews, post it here with a different screen name, and watch as a applauds and cheers come in, without having actually posting anything relevant to conspiracies that actually occur. :rolleyes:
Search for all the clubs and groups that help out their various minority communities, you'll find that there's a lot more of them than specifically Jewish clubs. My neighborhood has Indian, Arabic, Pacific Islander, and Chinese groups, yet I don't scream conspiracy. I actually think it's awesome. Just like Jewish immigrants from a different time, the next generations are becoming "elites," in that they're embracing the American constitution, starting businesses, and sending their kids off to great universities! Just like secular Jews before them, that's all they care about, their families, they aren't trying to take over the world... think outside your box dude.
I have done a lot of research into Hollywood.
And btw not at all interested in JEWS or whatever, or
fucking KHAZARIANS whatever.
Every movie was dominated by KHAZAR jews.
Now can you explain me that?
But still I don't care.
But dont tell me there's no conspiracy.
JEWS and HOLLYWOOD are one.
Now if that means that POOR JEWS are again being set up
for a fall or whatever, don't know.
And WHOEVER RUNS HOLLYWOOD, those "innocent" friendly
jews are fully part of the game...
Jewish conspiracy?
Of Course there is.
And of course there will be be a new HOLOCAUST.
All by design.
RICH SATANISTS KHAZARS sacrificing poor fellow jews...
razed1
13-10-2007, 09:06 PM
the following is from dictionary.com:
hol·o·caust /ˈhɒləˌkɔst, ˈhoʊlə-/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[hol-uh-kawst, hoh-luh-] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation
–noun 1. a great or complete devastation or destruction, esp. by fire.
2. a sacrifice completely consumed by fire; burnt offering.
3. (usually initial capital letter) the systematic mass slaughter of European Jews in Nazi concentration camps during World War II (usually prec. by the).
4. any mass slaughter or reckless destruction of life.
aask yourself why the mainstrea media (t.v., books, history class etc) always use this word to describe what supposedly happened during WW2
so as you can see, they are more than happy to tell you the truth, the truth is always put out there
but the question, are you able to see it??
btw, this is the symbol for the website
http://cache.lexico.com/g/d/dictionary_logo.gif
megafish33
13-10-2007, 09:10 PM
do you megafish, as what youve seen on forums like this and others
see that the god, that did the choosing all that long time ago, was nothing more than a what you might call 'annunaki' visitor to earth, jehovah, being a humanoid alien with whatever 'psychic' or technological powers he might have had
do you agree with the above??
I don't know, I don't have enough evidence. If it was a visitor from elsewhere I still can't be sure if it singled out Jews or not. I do know that Zoroastrian beliefs played a major role in shaping the biggest three Western religions: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Those beliefs were also influenced by still older beliefs. While Canaan did have Israelite Kingdoms at one time, it was also controlled by Egypt prior. At the time of Darius and the Persian Empire, the Israelite Kingdoms were like a tiny island surrounded by imperial Zoroastrian belief. It's not hard to imagine that the Hebrew speaking peoples were influenced by this. Before King David, Egypt had already gone through three major phases, including the building of pyramids. While the Jews were to be kept separate as the prophets told them, I can't imagine their religious beliefs and ideas of god not being influenced by others. If an alien visited Earth and is the person who carries the name of the Hebrew god, I don't know. If he did come here, I can't be sure if he set up shop with the Hebrews first. Most evidence leads me to believe that it was just a means of controlling people of tribal groups. They might of have also had internal revolutions and experiences from being under the influence of drugs. What I do see is one of the most spiritual aspect of being human, sexuality, being suppressed by all major beliefs, although I don't have enough info on the various earth cults in Europe and whatnot. To me this is a red flag. All the elites of those societies, including royalty, had many women and in turn, much offspring.
megafish33
13-10-2007, 09:13 PM
But still I don't care.
But dont tell me there's no conspiracy.
JEWS and HOLLYWOOD are one.
Yeah, plenty in Hollywood. Many of them are Jews by conversion though.
If you don't care than what's the point of replying?
Where in Hollywood have you lived and done business in?
razed1
13-10-2007, 09:18 PM
I don't know, I don't have enough evidence. If it was a visitor from elsewhere I still can't be sure if it singled out Jews or not. I do know that Zoroastrian beliefs played a major role in shaping the biggest three Western religions: Judaism, Christianity, and Islam. Those beliefs were also influenced by still older beliefs. While Canaan did have Israelite Kingdoms at one time, it was also controlled by Egypt prior. At the time of Darius and the Persian Empire, the Israelite Kingdoms were like a tiny island surrounded by imperial Zoroastrian belief. It's not hard to imagine that the Hebrew speaking peoples were influenced by this. Before King David, Egypt had already gone through three major phases, including the building of pyramids. While the Jews were to be kept separate as the prophets told them, I can't imagine their religious beliefs and ideas of god not being influenced by others. If an alien visited Earth and is the person who carries the name of the Hebrew god, I don't know. If he did come here, I can't be sure if he set up shop with the Hebrews first. Most evidence leads me to believe that it was just a means of controlling people of tribal groups. They might of have also had internal revolutions and experiences from being under the influence of drugs. What I do see is one of the most spiritual aspect of being human, sexuality, being suppressed by all major beliefs, although I don't have enough info on the various earth cults in Europe and whatnot. To me this is a red flag. All the elites of those societies, including royalty, had many women and in turn, much offspring.
the jewish religion in itself is DEFINED by the ppl (jews) being obedient to a god jehovah
so its not like an alien being wouldve come here and singled out jews, lol, theres was no jews to begin, but its becuase certain ppl , were obedient to this alien visitor (or leader of visitors) that a new beleif system was created
ppl now would scoff at the idea, that pope benedict is an incarnation of god itself, but is it really a stretch too see if an alien would come here and claim the same thing, impressing the humans, with their technology/psychich abilities
and i like when you said how sexualiy is being supressed/skewed, do you agree that circumcision is a part of this sexual manipulation? can you tell us what reason jews have given for inventing circumcision??
tintin
13-10-2007, 09:20 PM
Yeah, plenty in Hollywood. Many of them are Jews by conversion though.
If you don't care than what's the point of replying?
Where in Hollywood have you lived and done business in?
Jewish wiseguy?
megafish33
13-10-2007, 09:51 PM
and i like when you said how sexualiy is being supressed/skewed, do you agree that circumcision is a part of this sexual manipulation? can you tell us what reason jews have given for inventing circumcision??
Jews didn't invent circumcision, it was an Egyptian rite before Judaism existed. I don't think circumcision for males is part of sexual manipulation in and of itself. Female circumcision should never be done, ever! Some Jews weren't circumcised as babies in Eastern Europe and some had foreskin restoration done to avoid being singled out as Jewish in times of war. My mother rejected the religion and never had me circumcised. To this day certain rabbis will tell me that I won't have my full share in the world to come since I'm not observant of all the laws that I can be observant in(obviously a kohanim can't be at the temple today since it doesn't exist). Circumcision is shown to help reduce certain diseases though. I think it's all a matter of personal hygiene and cleanliness. Back in the day, most people didn't have hot showers and lather rich soaps, nor did they regularly bath. An uncircumcised penis was prone to harboring infectious diseases in the foreskin.
megafish33
13-10-2007, 09:52 PM
Jewish wiseguy?
Answer the question?
tintin
13-10-2007, 10:03 PM
Answer the question?
Come on,
People are just fed up up
with all this JEW STUFF.
So fuck off with cheap ANTISEMITISM.
Poison the world.
damagedbrainn
13-10-2007, 11:10 PM
I am sure you people meant this as a joke but I doubt that the people who survived Nazi Germany, and who were subjected to being branded with tattoos and stars, would find it very amusing.
A little insensitive perhaps?
Oh, don't give me that. Anyone with half a brain would be able to recognize what my point was.
So my small example of sarcastic satire was so insensitive to holocaust survivors, but a group of people shouting the same anti-semitic nonsense which originally motivated the Nazis to brand Jews in such ways is not insensitive at all, huh?
You have people here insisting that Jews mask their identities in order to infiltrate various levels of society without the "goyim" become wise to their intentions. Where the hell do you think that sort of thinking leads? If people really believe that the above theory is true, then what do you think they would conclude the solution to this problem to be?
I know I've said this before, and I'll keep repeating: It's really shocking how much this bullshit is tolerated around here, even by the mods. It's becoming increasingly clear that the reason it's tolerated is because many, perhaps even most, here secretly agree, even if you all are too chickenshit to admit it in such explicit terms.
peachped
13-10-2007, 11:20 PM
http://www.biblestudysite.com/judea%20declares%20war%20-800px.jpg
damagedbrainn
13-10-2007, 11:24 PM
http://www.biblestudysite.com/judea%20declares%20war%20-800px.jpg
And why in the world would Jews have wanted to boycott German goods during the 1930's? Big fuckin' mystery, that is.
damagedbrainn
13-10-2007, 11:44 PM
a joke in bad taste perhaps. although i think that was the reason they had to wear those badges
Exactly. And do you believe that that was a good idea?
damagedbrainn
13-10-2007, 11:50 PM
I just have an objection to making fun of real suffering, whether it be toward Jews or Christians, or Muslims. I'm talking about the insensitive comments about the stars and the tattoos. Those people were the fodder for the Zionist war and agenda against mankind, and making fun of their suffering is beyond my comprehension.
The Holocaust may be overstated as far as numbers go, but there WERE victims who suffered more than any of us have ever suffered, and to joke about it is fucking sick.
Why don't we start joking about children being molested?
Or, animals being tortured?
It's the same thing. It's suffering, and it was enforced by people that had no right to do it.
How are jokes like this even tolerated? It has nothing to do with the Zionist agenda, which IS wrong. Thinking it's funny that people, along with children and the elderly were tattooed like animals, and had to wear a star to make an example of them, to incite further hatred toward them is beyond my understanding.
What the fuck is going on here? :confused:
Yet you seem to agree that there is a Jewish Conspiracy.
Your mind works in a very odd way.
Honestly, despite your ultimately meaningless disclaimer, you would fit right in with the atmosphere which was responsible for committing those atrocities. I'm sure you have some dumbass, twisted way of rationalizing that, but it remains true nonetheless.
tinmenace
13-10-2007, 11:57 PM
Yet you seem to agree that there is a Jewish Conspiracy.
Your mind works in a very odd way.
Honestly, despite your ultimately meaningless disclaimer, you would fit right in with the atmosphere which was responsible for committing those atrocities. I'm sure you have some dumbass, twisted way of rationalizing that, but it remains true nonetheless.
Where have I EVER said it was a JEWISH conspiracy?
It's a Zionist conspiracy. I've always said that, but specifically JEWISH? Never.
damagedbrainn
14-10-2007, 12:11 AM
Christians dont really benefit from a religion that calls them second class to god's chosen people. who benefits?
Christian Zionists don't believe that they're second class to god's "chosen people." In fact, they believe that they are more enlightened than them....a step ahead.....because they've already accepted Jesus as the messiah.
They believe that once Israel and its temple is rebuilt, and the original Israelites return to their "homeland", then Jesus will return, convert all the Jews of Israel to Christianity, and cleanse the world of all non-christians (including the Jews who refuse to convert), and everyone lives happily ever-after.
damagedbrainn
14-10-2007, 12:16 AM
Where have I EVER said it was a JEWISH conspiracy?
It's a Zionist conspiracy. I've always said that, but specifically JEWISH? Never.
Bleh. Sorry. I disagree with you about Zionism (at least in part), but yeah, I've read the rest and you aren't saying it's a Jewish Conspiracy. So I apologize for that. I'm getting too irritated and defensive.
tinmenace
14-10-2007, 12:17 AM
Bleh. Sorry. I disagree with you about Zionism (at least in part), but yeah, I've read the rest and you aren't saying it's a Jewish Conspiracy. So I apologize for that. I'm getting too irritated and defensive.
No problem :)
eternal_spirit
14-10-2007, 01:02 AM
Bleh. Sorry. I disagree with you about Zionism (at least in part), but yeah, I've read the rest and you aren't saying it's a Jewish Conspiracy. So I apologize for that. I'm getting too irritated and defensive.
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So you'll play blame it on the Christ or Germans and shift the blame away from the Jews.
Nice try but doesn't fool the wise here,
eternal_spirit
14-10-2007, 01:10 AM
Christian Zionists don't believe that they're second class to god's "chosen people." In fact, they believe that they are more enlightened than them....a step ahead.....because they've already accepted Jesus as the messiah.
They believe that once Israel and its temple is rebuilt, and the original Israelites return to their "homeland", then Jesus will return, convert all the Jews of Israel to Christianity, and cleanse the world of all non-christians (including the Jews who refuse to convert), and everyone lives happily ever-after.
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Here is proof of the Jewish anti christ
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=11268
eternal_spirit
14-10-2007, 01:20 AM
You have people here insisting that Jews mask their identities in order to infiltrate various levels of society without the "goyim" become wise to their intentions. Where the hell do you think that sort of thinking leads? If people really believe that the above theory is true, then what do you think they would conclude the solution to this problem to be?
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Yes but they do don't they? Just like the masons do. They both work in the same manner. Think of this......A group of Jewish business people hold an allegiance to each other, the Jewish bankers loan money to them etc etc they have the upper hand right from the start over the other none Jewish business people, that's the basics, then apply that to all other areas of the system and society, then you'll be getting closer to finding out who runs this freak show on Planet Earth.
Same old question? What is the solution you imagine 'they' would have in mind?
seanx
14-10-2007, 02:58 AM
Quote:
Originally Posted by tinmenace
I just have an objection to making fun of real suffering, whether it be toward Jews or Christians, or Muslims. I'm talking about the insensitive comments about the stars and the tattoos. Those people were the fodder for the Zionist war and agenda against mankind, and making fun of their suffering is beyond my comprehension.
The Holocaust may be overstated as far as numbers go, but there WERE victims who suffered more than any of us have ever suffered, and to joke about it is fucking sick.
Why don't we start joking about children being molested?
Or, animals being tortured?
It's the same thing. It's suffering, and it was enforced by people that had no right to do it.
How are jokes like this even tolerated? It has nothing to do with the Zionist agenda, which IS wrong. Thinking it's funny that people, along with children and the elderly were tattooed like animals, and had to wear a star to make an example of them, to incite further hatred toward them is beyond my understanding.
What the fuck is going on here?
And damagedbrainn relpy:
Yet you seem to agree that there is a Jewish Conspiracy.
Your mind works in a very odd way.
Honestly, despite your ultimately meaningless disclaimer, you would fit right in with the atmosphere which was responsible for committing those atrocities. I'm sure you have some dumbass, twisted way of rationalizing that, but it remains true nonetheless.
As far as I can see, the ONLY person who is speaking ANY
sense in this thread is Tinmenace.
She is clearly the only person who understands what Icke
is getting at.
I have to tell you one thing; reading all this crap racist crap- and,
beyond all the fancy words, that is all it is is all it is: rasist crap;
what I find hard to understand is the fucking Silence
Where all are ALL the people who read icke's
books and understand them?
By not adding your voice to these threads - these race
haters think the majority are supporting them.
They think silence IS support.
The silence of most people on this site does make one think.
Now, what person who reads icke and understands him
could not disagree with this
Originally Posted by tinmenace
I just have an objection to making fun of real suffering, whether it be toward Jews or Christians, or Muslims. I'm talking about the insensitive comments about the stars and the tattoos. Those people were the fodder for the Zionist war and agenda against mankind, and making fun of their suffering is beyond my comprehension.
The Holocaust may be overstated as far as numbers go, but there WERE victims who suffered more than any of us have ever suffered, and to joke about it is fucking sick.
Why don't we start joking about children being molested?
Or, animals being tortured?
It's the same thing. It's suffering, and it was enforced by people that had no right to do it.
How are jokes like this even tolerated? It has nothing to do with the Zionist agenda, which IS wrong. Thinking it's funny that people, along with children and the elderly were tattooed like animals, and had to wear a star to make an example of them, to incite further hatred toward them is beyond my understanding.
What the fuck is going on here:
and yet there is silence. from the majority on this forum.
Maybe most people Eternal spirit is right: Al our problems are the
cause of one race. As simple as that.
Pass the sick bucket. And get me out of here.
tinmenace
14-10-2007, 03:07 AM
Thanks for the support ;)
eternal_spirit
14-10-2007, 03:11 AM
As far as I can see, the ONLY person who is speaking ANY
sense in this thread is Tinmenace.
She is clearly the only person who understands what Icke
is getting at.
I have to tell you one thing; reading all this crap racist crap- and,
beyond all the fancy words, that is all it is is all it is: rasist crap;
what I find hard to understand is the fucking Silence
Where all are ALL the people who read icke's
books and understand them?
By not adding your voice to these threads - these race
haters think the majority are supporting them.
They think silence IS support.
The silence of most people on this site does make one think.
Now, what person who reads icke and understands him
could not disagree with this
and yet there is silence. from the majority on this forum.
Maybe most people Eternal spirit is right: Al our problems are the
cause of one race. As simple as that.
Pass the sick bucket. And get me out of here.
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You are sick lol
damagedbrainn
14-10-2007, 03:50 AM
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So you'll play blame it on the Christ or Germans and shift the blame away from the Jews.
Nice try but doesn't fool the wise here,
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showpost.php?p=148171&postcount=12
And I don't believe that Jesus Christ ever existed, so it would be difficult for me to blame him for anything.
seanx
14-10-2007, 03:53 AM
You are sick lol
Thanks mate.
How a man like yourself who used to post such great threads has got
caught up in this bloody jewish stuff is a mystery to them.
It's the jews this ...and the Jews that...
Why are some people obsessed with jewish people?
What about the Germans?
The Swedish?
The Bloody Welsh - any nation who inflicts Tom Jones upon the world
must be evil.
Or the Austrailians - and their secret weapon - Neighbours.
I lived in a house for three years with my girlfriend AND my three
sisters - and they would record Neighbours - and everytime one of
them would come home from work - they'd play it!
If that tune- Neighbours is not evil - nothing is.
I'd gladly give up our country's full independence if the
Aussies promise not to send any more epidoses!!
eternal_spirit
14-10-2007, 03:58 AM
:D Lol
tintin
14-10-2007, 08:17 AM
Thanks mate.
How a man like yourself who used to post such great threads has got
caught up in this bloody jewish stuff is a mystery to them.
It's the jews this ...and the Jews that...
Why are some people obsessed with jewish people?
What about the Germans?
The Swedish?
The Bloody Welsh - any nation who inflicts Tom Jones upon the world
must be evil.
Or the Austrailians - and their secret weapon - Neighbours.
I lived in a house for three years with my girlfriend AND my three
sisters - and they would record Neighbours - and everytime one of
them would come home from work - they'd play it!
If that tune- Neighbours is not evil - nothing is.
I'd gladly give up our country's full independence if the
Aussies promise not to send any more epidoses!!
Are you serious?
We will have a WORLD WAR pretty soon
about this piece of desert.
Not about Wales....
Jews this jews that.....
I hear every day about those jews, who aren't jews,
so who is obsessed here.
mountain
14-10-2007, 11:07 AM
So much anti-semitism here...
Were the Jews responsible for the slaughter of
millions of Native Americans in Americas?
How about the 400 year long holocaust of the
black slaves?
These TOO were holocausts, and still no compensation!
eternal_spirit
14-10-2007, 12:35 PM
From Wiki.......Kolyma ( Gulag camp; created and run by Communists ) with 4 million exterminated prisoners has by far the highest death toll out of all extermination sites in history (Auschwitz concentration camp - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia only 1.5 milion).
In all, perhaps more than 18 million people passed through the Gulag, with a further millions being deported and exiled (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Population_transfer_in_the_Soviet_Union#Timeline) to remote areas of the Soviet Union.[8] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag#_note-7)[9] (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Gulag#_note-8)
Wonder why it's never mentioned that the Communist Jews put people in camps too before and after the WARS.
razed1
14-10-2007, 03:04 PM
Jews didn't invent circumcision, it was an Egyptian rite before Judaism existed. I don't think circumcision for males is part of sexual manipulation in and of itself. Female circumcision should never be done, ever! Some Jews weren't circumcised as babies in Eastern Europe and some had foreskin restoration done to avoid being singled out as Jewish in times of war. My mother rejected the religion and never had me circumcised. To this day certain rabbis will tell me that I won't have my full share in the world to come since I'm not observant of all the laws that I can be observant in(obviously a kohanim can't be at the temple today since it doesn't exist). Circumcision is shown to help reduce certain diseases though. I think it's all a matter of personal hygiene and cleanliness. Back in the day, most people didn't have hot showers and lather rich soaps, nor did they regularly bath. An uncircumcised penis was prone to harboring infectious diseases in the foreskin.
I don't think circumcision for males is part of sexual manipulation in and of itself. Female circumcision should never be done, ever!
ok so its ok to cut off skin of a little boys penis, but female crimucision should never be done?? i guess god intends 2 different standards for boys and girls, rite?
To this day certain rabbis will tell me that I won't have my full share in the world to come
i c, ineteresting insight into the mind of these 'holy' rabbis, i guess this god has promised them the world for being obedient to HIM
what about the rest of the ppl, are they gonna have there world stolen from them? or will we be living serfs, while the jews that follow the law get to strut around in robes?
Circumcision is shown to help reduce certain diseases though. I think it's all a matter of personal hygiene and cleanliness. Back in the day, most people didn't have hot showers and lather rich soaps, nor did they regularly bath. An uncircumcised penis was prone to harboring infectious diseases in the foreskin
i dont agree with all that, just more bs to justify having this STUPID practice of circumcision,
i dont think the creator or G-d as you like call it, made a mistake by giving boys a skin cover over like the most sensitive part on you body,
how deluded can you get?
eternal_spirit
15-10-2007, 12:56 AM
So much anti-semitism here...
Were the Jews responsible for the slaughter of
millions of Native Americans in Americas?
How about the 400 year long holocaust of the
black slaves?
These TOO were holocausts, and still no compensation!
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I don't know maybe some where. Blacks sold black to each other before white man ever did. And yes some blacks have had much money and help from the whities.
The white lower class working peoples where just white slaves to their white Elite owners ( see Industrial Revolution of Britain for good examples of slavery) The people where forced off their farms and into towns to work in the factories and coal mines etc, some worked till they dropped dead of malnutrition they would work from sun rise until sundown. (the average life expectancy was 27!)
The indigenous British people where murderd by Romans who converted them to Christianty or death. Then the Normans came along put a false foreign king on the throne ( and the same fuckin bloodlined asses sit on that throne till this day!) massacred the Brits. Taxed them for living on their own land caused much famine and War.
Many Irish had a choice of starving, being killed by Royalist English troops or going to America on a ship. Many didn't wan't to go there, some where forced , they would drug peoples drinks and when they woke up the next day they would find themselves on a boat to America.
Yes it was bad what happened to the Indians and yes some blacks also had it bad, but my point is the people of Britain have had foreign invasions for thousands of years, so most of us come from a long line of lower class slaves, forced into accepting a false religion then conned/forced into fighting other peoples wars for them. Will we ever learn?
Some of us have.
megafish33
15-10-2007, 05:31 AM
my reply in bold
ok so its ok to cut off skin of a little boys penis, but female crimucision should never be done?? i guess god intends 2 different standards for boys and girls, rite?
Hey, razed,
I never said circumcision should be done on anyone, but there are plenty of males that are circumcised and wouldn't want it any other way. Their bits and pieces still function and they can still derive pleasure form sex. Female circumcision is worse IMHO, although I'm not female... Look it up, I wouldn't want any girl to go through that shit!
i c, ineteresting insight into the mind of these 'holy' rabbis, i guess this god has promised them the world for being obedient to HIM
what about the rest of the ppl, are they gonna have there world stolen from them? or will we be living serfs, while the jews that follow the law get to strut around in robes?
I don't know lol but hey it's a religious idea, bullshit from the beginning.
i dont agree with all that, just more bs to justify having this STUPID practice of circumcision,
Good for you, no one is asking you to believe it.
i dont think the creator or G-d as you like call it, made a mistake by giving boys a skin cover over like the most sensitive part on you body,
Hey buddy, I don't believe in a god, I was saying "G-d" because that's how religious Jews refer to him in English. I agree, if it's a "mistake" it will be rooted out by natural selection, so far that hasn't happened. Proper use of soap isn't hard to master lol.
how deluded can you get?
razed1
16-10-2007, 02:33 AM
my reply in bold
you didnt reply to nothing, the inconsistencies of your 'beleifs' have been exposed
megafish33
16-10-2007, 05:55 AM
you didnt reply to nothing, the inconsistencies of your 'beleifs' have been exposed
Huh? What inconsistencies? Perhaps you have made assumptions you shouldn't have.
razed1
16-10-2007, 06:00 AM
whatever you know deep down im right :rolleyes:
razed1
16-10-2007, 06:04 AM
if it's a "mistake" it will be rooted out by natural selection, so far that hasn't happened. Proper use of soap isn't hard to master lol.
and exactly what does this mean
u think using soap is a part of natural selection????
megafish33
16-10-2007, 06:42 AM
and exactly what does this mean
u think using soap is a part of natural selection????
What the hell are you talking about? You're confused razed. I was saying if penises w/ foreskin were a mistake we would have, or will, evolve out of it. (Ok, here I'm implying that foreskin serves a purpose) That and "soap," as in washing your dicks foreskin, isn't hard. We both don't agree with circumcision, although I feel it's someones personal choice(and disagree with mothers and fathers determining that when the boy is an infant). Again... am I missing something here?
whatever you know deep down im right :rolleyes:
Again, I'm not followin'... Sorry.
razed1
16-10-2007, 08:23 PM
What the hell are you talking about? You're confused razed. I was saying if penises w/ foreskin were a mistake we would have, or will, evolve out of it. (Ok, here I'm implying that foreskin serves a purpose) That and "soap," as in washing your dicks foreskin, isn't hard. We both don't agree with circumcision, although I feel it's someones personal choice(and disagree with mothers and fathers determining that when the boy is an infant). Again... am I missing something here?
whatever you know deep down im right :rolleyes:
Again, I'm not followin'... Sorry.
this whole idea that having a foreskin leads to disease and more chance of the penis being dirty, this is just illuminati brainwashing, simply not true
and if you agree that having a foreskin serves a purpose, then why cut it off!
theres nothing to defend th act of circumcision, it was just created as a way to sexually manipulate the followers, and you made a good point when you first said that religions are here to sexually control us, but then you just showed your cognitive dissonance, when you said, no circumcision is NOT a part of this sexual manipulation
yea, so deep down, i think you feel im right about this,, does that clear it up a lil bit???
megafish33
16-10-2007, 08:41 PM
this whole idea that having a foreskin leads to disease and more chance of the penis being dirty, this is just illuminati brainwashing, simply not true
and if you agree that having a foreskin serves a purpose, then why cut it off!
theres nothing to defend th act of circumcision, it was just created as a way to sexually manipulate the followers, and you made a good point when you first said that religions are here to sexually control us, but then you just showed your cognitive dissonance, when you said, no circumcision is NOT a part of this sexual manipulation
yea, so deep down, i think you feel im right about this,, does that clear it up a lil bit???
Yes, getting clearer.
I agree foreskin serves a purpose, and so did my mother, who isn't religious, so I never had it removed via medical ritual, nor am I planning to have it done. I was merely saying what those in the medical community and those who are conditioned to circumcised penises bring out. Reread my posts, my personal views aren't hard to see because they contrast.
I haven't shown cognitive dissonance razed. You asked if circumcision is part of sexual manipulation, and I feel at this time, that being circumcised does not make you "sexually manipulated." I mentioned religion as a whole, may at times, contribute to manipulation of a sexual nature. I wasn't singling out one thing that started as a religious rite and sort of morphed into something many opt for. While that may be a part of something grander I don't know, but I speculate. Some males have reported that there is loss of feel during intercourse, if that's the case then yes, an old ritualistic procedure may have taken that away from your life. However, and this is a big however, many who have had their soldiers snipped report no difference, with a minority claiming that sex is actually better. Female circumcision is sexual manipulation IMHO.
There is no "deep down" anything in what we're discussing. Have a good one!
tintin
16-10-2007, 09:21 PM
Yes, getting clearer.
I agree foreskin serves a purpose, and so did my mother, who isn't religious, so I never had it removed via medical ritual, nor am I planning to have it done. I was merely saying what those in the medical community and those who are conditioned to circumcised penises bring out. Reread my posts, my personal views aren't hard to see because they contrast.
I haven't shown cognitive dissonance razed. You asked if circumcision is part of sexual manipulation, and I feel at this time, that being circumcised does not make you "sexually manipulated." I mentioned religion as a whole, may at times, contribute to manipulation of a sexual nature. I wasn't singling out one thing that started as a religious rite and sort of morphed into something many opt for. While that may be a part of something grander I don't know, but I speculate. Some males have reported that there is loss of feel during intercourse, if that's the case then yes, an old ritualistic procedure may have taken that away from your life. However, and this is a big however, many who have had their soldiers snipped report no difference, with a minority claiming that sex is actually better. Female circumcision is sexual manipulation IMHO.
There is no "deep down" anything in what we're discussing. Have a good one!
You're using intellectual words, like cognitive dissonance.
Means you're hiding something.
Complete nonsense to use that language.
Have read somewhere that you were jewish?
or partly jewish?
Yes, what's the point?
Do I have to tell people that I am a HUMAN BEING?
Or a KHAZARIAN FAKE JEW?
No of course not.
So when people start with their JEWISH identity
i am very suspicious about their motives.
megafish33
17-10-2007, 03:00 AM
You're using intellectual words, like cognitive dissonance.
Means you're hiding something.
Complete nonsense to use that language.
Have read somewhere that you were jewish?
or partly jewish?
Yes, what's the point?
Do I have to tell people that I am a HUMAN BEING?
Or a KHAZARIAN FAKE JEW?
No of course not.
So when people start with their JEWISH identity
i am very suspicious about their motives.
tintin, reread our posts. I didn't use "intellectual words" out of the blue, but he did. I was refuting his claim since he didn't quite understand one of my posts. How does using so called intellectual words mean you're hiding something? Please explain. Why is it nonsense to use the term "cognitive dissonance?" Was it nonsense when razed used the term? Or is it only nonsense when a Jew uses it? What are your thoughts?
You read somewhere that I was Jewish or partly Jewish and you're asking me what is the point? Uhhhhh hell if I know man, someone probably asked me. At one point a member commended me on my honesty about it, as if to say being Jewish is like having some disease that kills others on sight. lol Jeez...
You should proclaim your humanity!
I didn't "start" with my "Jewish identity." I did feel the need to provide my views when antisemitic posts were made though, especially considering the nature of this forum. People asked, what was I gonna say? No no, I'm Icelandic? Why lie? Being Jewish doesn't make me part of a world wide conspiracy to suck your lifeforce and receive interest on your payments to buy it back. Get over it. If you did read one of my earlier posts where I mention that I'm culturally Jewish, you will have also read, if both eyes were open, that I associate myself more with being an American. Why? I donno, I don't care for labels, but hey I live here, so if I'm gonna have two labels tacked on they might as well be truthful.
So we've established that you're suspicious of Jews, and those who use intellectual words... Jeez, your radar must have went through the roof when you read my post then huh?
Have a nice day tintin.
gorgeousbutterfly
17-10-2007, 05:19 AM
:(:(:(:( yep my family is jewish and they do this crap. i find it revolting. thanx god i didn't become one of "Them". their superiority complex is beyond annoying. i do not take these people seriously...
razed1
17-10-2007, 05:43 AM
I haven't shown cognitive dissonance razed. You asked if circumcision is part of sexual manipulation, and I feel at this time, that being circumcised does not make you "sexually manipulated."
anyone who has had a penis, will know that you cannot pull the foreskin all the way back while you are a child
then it magically just lets go when puberty hits, then you can pull it back
now it seems to me, that if nature has intended you not to pull it all the way back until at least 12-13 years, then its VERY strange (to ME anyway) that a religious creed would develop to CUT the skin off PERIOD, right at BIRTH
and you're gonna say that this is not part of manipulation of a person's sexual health??
thats just beyond me megafish, and that IS what you call cognitive dissonance
the muslims (who do this) should also think about this too
:p
megafish33
17-10-2007, 07:23 AM
a
and you're gonna say that this is not part of manipulation of a person's sexual health??
thats just beyond me megafish, and that IS what you call cognitive dissonance
That's fine man, we can disagree on the dissonance lol. I feel circumcision's a part of it, but more of a psychological manipulation than a sexual one IMHO... so many other variables will complete the picture of the manipulation of sexuality. The confusing media children are exposed to are just as bad IMHO. One day sex is taboo, the next it's the "in" thing. People are losers for being virgins, then they're praised for keeping clean. It's a mindfuck.
oiram
23-05-2008, 08:55 PM
The point is the Jews work together like some secret society. They are for themselves and against you/us/me. If anyone else worked like this they would be called racist, prejudiced.
There has been enough posts to prove this point over and over. If you still think I'm the racist, you are blind to reality, which is after much research the only conclusion I can conclude is that some Jews are the most racist people on the planet.
Was he really a crazy idiot as the school and the Jewish owned MSM presented him??
Use your reason & logic not your lifetime Brainwashing!
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=366509&posted=1#post366509
eternal_spirit
01-06-2008, 03:51 PM
Authority of Babylonian Talmud revealed The Truth About the Talmud
A Documented Exposé of Supremacist Rabbinic Hate Literature
By Warrant of John 18:37, Galatians 4:16
Copyright ©2000-2006 by Michael A. Hoffman II All Rights Reserved
Introduction
The Talmud is Judaism's holiest book (actually a collection of books). Its authority takes precedence over the Old Testament in Judaism. Evidence of this may be found in the Talmud itself, Erubin 21b (Soncino edition): "My son, be more careful in the observance of the words of the Scribes than in the words of the Torah (Old Testament)."
The supremacy of the Talmud over the Bible in the Israeli state may also be seen in the case of the black Ethiopian Jews. Ethiopians are very knowledgeable of the Old Testament. However, their religion is so ancient it pre-dates the Scribes' Talmud, of which the Ethiopians have no knowledge. According to the N.Y. Times of Sept. 29, 1992, p.4:
"The problem is that Ethiopian Jewish tradition goes no further than the Bible or Torah; the later Talmud and other commentaries that form the basis of modern traditions never came their way."
Because they are not traffickers in Talmudic tradition, the black Ethiopian Jews are discriminated against and have been forbidden by the Zionists to perform marriages, funerals and other services in the Israeli state.
Rabbi Joseph D. Soloveitchik is regarded as one of the most influential rabbis of the 20th century, the "unchallenged leader" of Orthodox Judaism and the top international authority on halakha (Jewish religious law). Soloveitchik was responsible for instructing and ordaining more than 2,000 rabbis, "an entire generation" of Jewish leadership.
N.Y. Times religion reporter Ari Goldman described the basis of the rabbi's authority:
"Soloveitchik came from a long line of distinguished Talmudic scholars...Until his early 20s, he devoted himself almost exclusively to the study of the Talmud...He came to Yeshiva University's Elchanan Theological Seminary where he remained the pre-eminent teacher in the Talmud...He held the title of Leib Merkin professor of Talmud...sitting with his feet crossed in front of a table bearing an open volume of the Talmud." (N.Y. Times, April 10, 1993, p. 38).
Nowhere does Goldman refer to Soloveitchik's knowledge of the Bible as the basis for being one of the leading authorities on Jewish law.
The rabbi's credentials are all predicated upon his mastery of the Talmud. Other studies are clearly secondary. Britain's Jewish Chronicle of March 26, 1993 states that in religious school (yeshiva), Jews are "devoted to the Talmud to the exclusion of everything else."
The Talmud Nullifies the Bible
The Jewish Scribes claim the Talmud is partly a collection of traditions Moses gave them in oral form. These had not yet been written down in Jesus' time. Christ condemned the traditions of the Mishnah (early Talmud) and those who taught it (Scribes and Pharisees), because the Talmud nullifies the teachings of the Holy Bible.
Shmuel Safrai in The Literature of the Sages Part One (p.164), points out that in chapters 4 and 5 of the Talmud's Gittin Tractate, the Talmud nullifies the Biblical teaching concerning money-lending: "Hillel decreed the prozbul for the betterment of the world. The prozbul is a legal fiction which allows debts to be collected after the Sabbatical year and it was Hillel's intention thereby to overcome the fear that money-lenders had of losing their money."
The famous warning of Jesus Christ about the tradition of men that voids Scripture (Mark 7:1-13), is in fact, a direct reference to the Talmud, or more specifically, the forerunner of the first part of it, the Mishnah, which existed in oral form during Christ's lifetime, before being committed to writing. Mark chapter 7, from verse one through thirteen, represents Our Lord's pointed condemnation of the Mishnah.
Unfortunately, due to the abysmal ignorance of our day, the widespread "Judeo-Christian" notion is that the Old Testament is the supreme book of Judaism. But this is not so. The Pharisees teach for doctrine the commandments of rabbis, not God.
The Talmudic commentary on the Bible is their supreme law, and not the Bible itself. That commentary does indeed, as Jesus said, void the laws of God, not uphold them. As students of the Talmud, we know this to be true.
Jewish scholar Hyam Maccoby, in Judaism on Trial, quotes Rabbi Yehiel ben Joseph: "Further, without the Talmud, we would not be able to understand passages in the Bible...God has handed this authority to the sages and tradition is a necessity as well as scripture. The Sages also made enactments of their own...anyone who does not study the Talmud cannot understand Scripture."
There is a tiny Jewish sect which makes considerable effort to eschew Talmud and adhere to the Old Testament alone. These are the Karaites, a group which, historically, has been most hated and severely persecuted by orthodox Jewish rabbinate.
To the Mishnah the rabbis later added the Gemara (rabbinical commentaries). Together these comprise the Talmud. There are two versions, the Jerusalem Talmud and the Babylonian Talmud.
The Babylonian Talmud is regarded as the authoritative version: "The authority of the Babylonian Talmud is also greater than that of the Jerusalem Talmud. In cases of doubt the former is decisive." (R.C. Musaph-Andriesse, From Torah to Kabbalah: A Basic Introduction to the Writings of Judaism, p. 40).
This study is based on the Jewish-authorized Babylonian Talmud. We have published herein the authenticated sayings of the Jewish Talmud. Look them up for yourself.
We publish the following irrefutable documentation in the hope of liberating all people, including Jewish people, from the corrosive delusions and racism of this Talmudic hate literature, which is the manual of Orthodox and Hasidic Jews the world over.
The implementation by Jewish supremacists of Talmudic hate literature has caused untold suffering throughout history and now, in occupied Palestine, it is used as a justification for the mass murder of Palestinian civilians. The Talmud specifically defines all who are not Jews as non-human animals.
Some Teachings of the Jewish Talmud
Where a Jew Should Do Evil
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Moed Kattan 17a: If a Jew is tempted to do evil he should go to a city where he is not known and do the evil there.
Penalty for Disobeying Rabbis
Erubin 21b. Whosoever disobeys the rabbis deserves death and will be punished by being boiled in hot excrement in hell.
Hitting a Jew is the same as hitting God
Sanhedrin 58b. If a heathen (gentile) hits a Jew, the gentile must be killed.
O.K. to Cheat Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . A Jew need not pay a gentile ("Cuthean") the wages owed him for work.
Jews Have Superior Legal Status
Baba Kamma 37b. "If an ox of an Israelite gores an ox of a Canaanite there is no liability; but if an ox of a Canaanite gores an ox of an Israelite...the payment is to be in full."
Jews May Steal from Non-Jews
Baba Mezia 24a . If a Jew finds an object lost by a gentile ("heathen") it does not have to be returned. (Affirmed also in Baba Kamma 113b). Sanhedrin 76a. God will not spare a Jew who "marries his daughter to an old man or takes a wife for his infant son or returns a lost article to a Cuthean..."
Jews May Rob and Kill Non-Jews
Sanhedrin 57a . When a Jew murders a gentile ("Cuthean"), there will be no death penalty. What a Jew steals from a gentile he may keep.
Baba Kamma 37b. The gentiles are outside the protection of the law and God has "exposed their money to Israel."
Jews May Lie to Non-Jews
Baba Kamma 113a. Jews may use lies ("subterfuges") to circumvent a Gentile.
Non-Jewish Children are Sub-Human
Yebamoth 98a. All gentile children are animals.
Abodah Zarah 36b. Gentile girls are in a state of niddah (filth) from birth.
Abodah Zarah 22a-22b . Gentiles prefer sex with cows.
Insults Against Blessed Mary
Sanhedrin 106a . Says Jesus' mother was a whore: "She who was the descendant of princes and governors played the harlot with carpenters." Also in footnote #2 to Shabbath 104b of the Soncino edition, it is stated that in the "uncensored" text of the Talmud it is written that Jesus mother, "Miriam the hairdresser," had sex with many men.
Gloats over Christ Dying Young
A passage from Sanhedrin 106 gloats over the early age at which Jesus died: "Hast thou heard how old Balaam (Jesus) was?--He replied: It is not actually stated but since it is written, Bloody and deceitful men shall not live out half their days it follows that he was thirty-three or thirty-four years old."
Jesus in the Talmud:
Horrible Blasphemies Against Jesus Christ
While it is the standard disinformation practice of apologists for the Talmud to deny that it contains any scurrilous references to Jesus Christ, certain Orthodox Jewish organizations are more forthcoming and admit that the Talmud not only mentions Jesus but disparages him (as a sorcerer and a demented sex freak). These orthodox Jewish organizations make this admission perhaps out of the belief that Jewish supremacy is so well-established in the modern world that they need not concern themselves with adverse reactions.
For example, on the website of the Orthodox Jewish Hasidic Lubavitch group--one of the largest in the world--we find the following statement, complete with Talmudic citations:
"The Talmud (Babylonian edition) records other sins of 'Jesus the Nazarene':
1) He and his disciples practiced sorcery and black magic, led Jews astray into idolatry, and were sponsored by foreign, gentile powers for the purpose of subverting Jewish worship (Sanhedrin 43a).
2) He was sexually immoral, worshipped statues of stone (a brick is mentioned), was cut off from the Jewish people for his wickedness, and refused to repent (Sanhedrin 107b; Sotah 47a).
3) He learned witchcraft in Egypt and, to perform miracles, used procedures that involved cutting his flesh, which is also explicitly banned in the Bible (Shabbos 104b).
End quote from http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm (Lubavitch website (http://www.noahide.com/yeshu.htm)) June 20, 2000.
[Note: we have printed and preserved in our files a hard copy of this statement from the Lubavitch"Noah's Covenant Website," as it appeared on their website at http://www.noahide.com (http://www.noahide.com/) on June 20, 2000, in the event that denials are later issued and the statement itself suppressed].
Let us examine further some of these anti-Christ Talmud passages:
Gittin 57a. Says Jesus is in hell, being boiled in "hot excrement."
Sanhedrin 43a. Says Jesus ("Yeshu" and in Soncino footnote #6, Yeshu "the Nazarene") was executed because he practiced sorcery: "It is taught that on the eve of Passover Jesus was hung, and forty days before this the proclamation was made: Jesus is to be stoned to death because he has practiced sorcery and has lured the people to idolatry...He was an enticer and of such thou shalt not pity or condone."
Kallah 51a."The elders were once sitting in the gate when two young lads passed by; one covered his head and the other uncovered his head. Of him who uncovered his head Rabbi Eliezer remarked that he is a bastard. Rabbi Joshua remarked that he is the son of a niddah (a child conceived during a woman's menstrual period). Rabbi Akiba said that he is both a bastard and a son of a niddah.
"They said, 'What induced you to contradict the opinion of your colleagues?' He replied, "I will prove it concerning him." He went to the lad's mother and found her sitting in the market selling beans.
"He said to her, 'My daughter, if you will answer the question I will put to you, I will bring you to the world to come.' (eternal life). She said to him, 'Swear it to me.'
"Rabbi Akiba, taking the oath with his lips but annulling it in his heart, said to her, 'What is the status of your son?' She replied, 'When I entered the bridal chamber I was niddah (menstruating) and my husband kept away from me; but my best man had intercourse with me and this son was born to me.' Consequently the child was both a bastard and the son of a niddah.
"It was declared, '..Blessed be the God of Israel Who Revealed His Secret to Rabbi Akiba..."
In addition to the theme that God rewards clever liars, the preceding Talmud discussion is actually about Jesus Christ (the bastard boy who "uncovered his head" and was conceived in the filth of menstruation). The boy's adulterous mother in this Talmud story is the mother of Christ, Blessed Mary (called Miriam and sometimes, Miriam the hairdresser, in the Talmud).
"The Editio Princeps of the complete Code of Talmudic Law, Maimonides' Mishneh Torah -- replete not only with the most offensive precepts against all Gentiles but also with explicit attacks on Christianity and on Jesus (after whose name the author adds piously, 'May the name of the wicked perish')... --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21.
"The Talmud contains a few explicit references to Jesus...These references are certainly not complimentary...There seems little doubt that the account of the execution of Jesus on the eve of Passover does refer to the Christian Jesus...The passage in which Jesus' punishment in hell is described also seems to refer to the Christian Jesus. It is a piece of anti-Christian polemic dating from the post-70 CE period..." --Hyam Maccoby, Judaism on Trial, pp. 26-27.
"According to the Talmud, Jesus was executed by a proper rabbinical court for idolatry, inciting other Jews to idolatry, and contempt of rabbinical authority. All classical Jewish sources which mention his execution are quite happy to take responsibility for it; in the talmudic account the Romans are not even mentioned.
"The more popular accounts--which were nevertheless taken quite seriously--such as the notorious Toldot Yeshu are even worse, for in addition to the above crimes they accuse him of witchcraft. The very name 'Jesus' was for Jews a symbol of all that is abominable and this popular tradition still persists...
"The Hebrew form of the name Jesus--Yeshu--was interpreted as an acronym for the curse, 'may his name and memory be wiped out,' which is used as an extreme form of abuse. In fact, anti-zionist Orthodox Jews (such as Neturey Qarta) sometimes refer to Herzl as 'Herzl Jesus' and I have found in religious zionist writings expressions such as "Nasser Jesus" and more recently 'Arafat Jesus." --Dr. Israel Shahak, Jewish History, Jewish Religion, pp. 97- 98, 118.
Talmud Attacks Christians and Christian Books
Rosh Hashanah 17a. Christians (minnim) and others who reject the Talmud will go to hell and be punished there for all generations.
Sanhedrin 90a. Those who read the New Testament ("uncanonical books") will have no portion in the world to come.
Shabbath 116a. Jews must destroy the books of the Christians, i.e. the New Testament.
Dr. Israel Shahak of Hebrew University reports that the Israelis burned hundreds of New Testament Bibles in occupied Palestine on March 23, 1980 (cf. Jewish History, Jewish Religion, p. 21).
Sick and Insane Teachings of the Talmud
Gittin 69a . To heal his flesh a Jew should take dust that lies within the shadow of an outdoor toilet, mix with honey and eat it.
Shabbath 41a. The law regulating the rule for how to urinate in a holy way is given.
Yebamoth 63a. States that Adam had sexual intercourse with all the animals in the Garden of Eden.
Yebamoth 63a. Declares that agriculture is the lowest of occupations.
Sanhedrin 55b. A Jew may marry a three year old girl (specifically, three years "and a day" old).
Sanhedrin 54b. A Jew may have sex with a child as long as the child is less than nine years old.
Kethuboth 11b. "When a grown-up man has intercourse with a little girl it is nothing."
Yebamoth 59b. A woman who had intercourse with a beast is eligible to marry a Jewish priest. A woman who has sex with a demon is also eligible to marry a Jewish priest.
Abodah Zarah 17a. States that there is not a whore in the world that the Talmudic sage Rabbi Eleazar has not had sex with.On one of his whorehouse romps, Rabbi Eleazar leanred that there was one particular prostitute residing in a whorehouse near the sea, who would receive a bag of money for her services. He took a bag of money and went to her, crossing seven rivers to do so. During their intercourse the prostitute farted. After this the whore told Rabbi Eleazar: "Just as this gas will never return to my anus, Rabbi Eleazar will never get to heaven."
Hagigah 27a. States that no rabbi can ever go to hell.
Baba Mezia 59b. A rabbi debates God and defeats Him. God admits the rabbi won the debate.
Gittin 70a. The Rabbis taught: "On coming from a privy (outdoor toilet) a man should not have sexual intercourse till he has waited long enough to walk half a mile, because the demon of the privy is with him for that time; if he does, his children will be epileptic."
Gittin 69b. To heal the disease of pleurisy ("catarrh") a Jew should "take the excrement of a white dog and knead it with balsam, but if he can possibly avoid it he should not eat the dog's excrement as it loosens the limbs."
Pesahim 111a. It is forbidden for dogs, women or palm trees to pass between two men, nor may others walk between dogs, women or palm trees. Special dangers are involved if the women are menstruating or sitting at a crossroads.
Menahoth 43b-44a. A Jewish man is obligated to say the following prayer every day: Thank you God for not making me a gentile, a woman or a slave.
Tall Tales of a Roman Holocaust
Here are two early "Holocaust" tales from the Talmud: Gittin 57b. Claims that four billion Jews were killed by the Romans in the city of Bethar. Gittin 58a claims that 16 million Jewish children were wrapped in scrolls and burned alive by the Romans. (Ancient demography indicates that there were not 16 million Jews in the entire world at that time, much less 16 million Jewish children or four billion Jews).
read full article here
http://www.revisionisthistory.org/talmudtruth.html
synergy777
01-06-2008, 04:47 PM
torah jews do not follow the talmud, there are good jews. i think jews get a bad press, we have to discern. there are good/bad people in every religion/nation, we must not judge unfairly or fall for the divide and rule/propaganda of the elite.
zero1
01-06-2008, 04:53 PM
Sayanim means "infiltrators", the Jews/Zionists are supposed to have people in the East and West working undercover, ready to strike upon command from Israel (or whatever).
I don't bear the Jewish people any ill will as they've never done anything to me (that I know of or can prove), but @ the same time there is always a lingering doubt that they really do believe all of that racist "Chosen People" BUNK and are acting with some preconcived notion of divine right to acquire world power on a scale that would deprive the vast majority of the human race of their autonomy and sovreignty as nations and individuals.
If this is so, and they're doing it through Banking and Economic hegemony, I would be very disappointed. And angry.
synergy777
01-06-2008, 05:01 PM
every religion/nation has a similar religous/nationalistic philosophy to zionism. just look at religous and imperial history from africa, asia and europe, all use god to justify their imperial actions, all claim to be the master race/chosen people, all claim theirs is the only true religion.
its all divide and rule/opposames
the fact is i know its sounds corny, but we should love everyone, as we are all one/connected, we are all manipulated, all have done things wrong, made mistakes etc, to err is human, to forgive is divine. compassion, unity etc is the way forward.
zero1
01-06-2008, 05:12 PM
every religion/nation has a similar religous/nationalistic philosophy to zionism. just look at religous and imperial history from africa, asia and europe, all use god to justify their imperial actions, all claim to be the master race/chosen people, all claim theirs is the only true religion.
its all divide and rule/opposames
the fact is i know its sounds corny, but we should love everyone, as we are all one/connected we are all manipulated, all have done things wrong, made mistakes etc, to err is human, to forgive is divine. compassion, unity etc is the way forward.
Right. You're a good man, Syn, almost too good and genuine for this world. Peace and blessings anyway, dude. :)
synergy777
01-06-2008, 05:23 PM
its only because i think we should see things accurately, see all sides, understand all motives etc.
i have made many mistakes and most probably will make many more, lol, as i am not perfect etc, but the trick is to ask yourself why you did it and what have you learnt from it. that way it adds experience/knowledge which gives us a database of wisdom (knowledge and experience), which then helps us to empathise(understand) with others and not judge them etc.
personally no one who ever lived on this planet was perfect and never will be, so we must all be real to eachother. as perfection is subjective/relative to the observer, what is perfection anyway, lol
also compassion means loving those we want to hate eg the elite/clergy etc, as its easy to love people you like, but hard to love those you hate. if you love everyone, you understand why they did the thing or do the things they do, eg the elite. they have done bad, but why, they seek power, control, security etc like us, but they are also under control/manipulated by the higher dark powers.
also if the source/creator/god can love me, all of us from the poor to the elite, after all our mistakes/evil actions etc, then we should love eachother too.
1love = peace.
razed1
01-06-2008, 05:29 PM
i think some of you might be oversimplifying the situation
yes there are torah loving jewish ppl,
but what ppl in the world know as "Jews" today, and the state of Israel
this is ALL coming from the talmud
and the talmudists outnumber those jews who dont consider the talmud and its teachings by a WIDE margin
call them zionists , or talmudists or whatever,
but the reality of the world is that the vast majority of ppl who can be callsified as "jews" are talmudists
and so to just say we love torah lovers and not talmudists is oversimplifying
the fact is the torah itself is not some divine creation from god, its just like its appendages of christianity and islam, are creations of the elites,
this Moses person, who created a "LAW" for the jews to follow, didnt do it for their best interest in mind
its becoming more and more clear in my research that from the torah and onwards, you have this legion of religious ideologies which are ANTI nature, anti feminine, control prisons which were created to control the growing number of the sheep
the shamanic traditions and nature worshipping theologies of the druids and others, have been eradicated by this whole judeo-christian behemoth
thats just the plain truth
synergy777
01-06-2008, 05:34 PM
the texts have some good truths but are unfortunately the tool/creation of the masucline priesthood, thus they will promote the priesthoods views on nature, women, genetics, spirituality etc. the vedic priesthood corrupted the vedas, to include the caste system etc
we must remember that the teachers like yeshuah/buddha were against the priesthood/elite, and its they the priesthood who plotted to kill yeshua, and then had the audacity to say they were his messengers/keepers of the wisdom.
thats like the elite today saying they support democracy/peace etc, lol
razed1
01-06-2008, 05:41 PM
this is the BASIS for jewish beleif as is currently beleived by all jews,
the 10 commandments
http://www.winfieldbaptistchurch.com/images/The_Ten_Commandments_lg.gif
just look at these commands,
this doenst sound like an infinite creative force of the universe, but rather more like a PERSONALITY, ie. an EGO that is making sure HIS power is absolute
synergy777
01-06-2008, 05:43 PM
some of them are good, some of them need clarifying, but the fact is no one, especially the elite/clergy follows them. also they may have come from egyptain texts.
hewrote
01-06-2008, 05:46 PM
Sabbath's are decreed by phases of the moon!!
ARE NOT!!
ARE SO!!!
ARE NOT!!!
ARE SO!!!!
The Sabbath is on Sunday!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!
IS NOT!!
IS TOO!!!!
IS NOT!!!!
IS TOO!!!!!!
When he said to "not take the name of the lord thy god in vain" he meant YHVH!!
DID NOT!!
DID TOO!!!
DID NOT!!!
DID TOO!!!!
"Thou shall not kill is meant to be read as THOU SHALL DO NO MURDER!!
IS NOT!!!
IS TOO!!!
IS NOT!!!
IS TOO!!
IS NOT!!!!
:p:eek:
razed1
01-06-2008, 05:46 PM
some of them are good, some of them need clarifying, but the fact is no one, especially the elite/clergy follows them. also they may have come from egyptain texts.
yea but dont you see,
god doesnt make mistakes, the real god anyway
so if some of these commandments are good, and some of them are bad...
what does that tell you???
razed1
01-06-2008, 05:50 PM
from my research its clear, what this moses and his god, the CONTRACT between them
this god requires COMPLETE and TOTAL obedience
and in return this god's subjects will be rewarded with all kinds of WORLDLY, MATERIAL pleasures
THIS is the basis for the jewish religion
and you can dress it up, perfume it all you want
but this is the truth of the matter
synergy777
01-06-2008, 05:54 PM
it tells me that man made these, with his hands and although some of them are good, others need clarifying/improving/evolving for todays world. use logic, man should not kill, man should not steal, man should not lie etc are good ones. man should not make a graven image, eg idolatary/statues of god/jesus etc is good aswell, as god is not a bearded man sitting on a throne/zeus clone, and the fact is that man will use the image/idols to promote his own agenda eg cesare borgia/blonde jesus.
man must realise the image of god in us is not our body, but our spirit.
the source is perfect, his creations you and i etc, are not perfect in behaviour/actions/thoughts etc, thus should our own mistakes be blamed on him, we have a certain degree of free will/liberty and need to take responisbility for our own actions and not blame god/source.
if a child does something wrong, is the blame on the parent? how can we on one hand want personal power/liberty/free will etc, then blame bad things on the one who gives us our free will, the source/god, its hypocritical to be frank.
razed1
01-06-2008, 06:08 PM
it tells me that man made these, with his hands and although some of them are good, others need clarifying/improving/evolving for todays world. use logic, man should not kill, man should not steal, man should not lie etc are good ones. man should not make a graven image, eg idolatary/statues of god/jesus etc is good aswell, as god is not a bearded man sitting on a throne/zeus clone, and the fact is that man will use the image/idols to promote his own agenda eg cesare borgia/blonde jesus.
man must realise the image of god in us is not our body, but our spirit.
the source is perfect, his creations you and i etc, are not perfect in behaviour/actions/thoughts etc, thus should our own mistakes be blamed on him, we have a certain degree of free will/liberty and need to take responisbility for our own actions and not blame god/source.
if a child does something wrong, is the blame on the parent? how can we on one hand want personal power/liberty/free will etc, then blame bad things on the one who gives us our free will, the source/god, its hypocritical to be frank.
spoken like a true spiritual slave
i dont know why you make excuses and rationalize what you see,
on one hand you admit that man created these rules, and on the other hand you are trying to say the we humans have been given free will by "the source/god"
when you say
if a child does something wrong, is the blame on the parent? how can we on one hand want personal power/liberty/free will etc, then blame bad things on the one who gives us our free will, the source/god, its hypocritical to be frank.[/
this is mental prison you are in, you were BORN FREE, no one "gave" anything to you, its only these worldy despots that have taken on the authority where they see themselves as your god, and you are more than happy to thank them for your freedom
i think its important to NOT associate this god of the jews, with the creator of the universe,
two completely different things,
synergy777
01-06-2008, 06:18 PM
maybe i am a spiritual slave,
i think like everyone else i am programmed by religous texts, scientific texts, historic texts, media etc.
maybe i will never know god/source, the truth about us, the human race etc.
i have tried to find the truth and i cannot.
all i know is that some supreme entity/creator/source exists and it might have created the cosmos and us, our spirits etc.
i think that the source would want us to be good/compassionate to eachother and nature.
i think that the source would want us to live in equality, unity, liberty and harmony.
maybe i don't know the truth or never will, but these are my views.
how can you free me, how can you show me how to get to the truth,
how can you teach me to use my power and change my life and thus serve/help others ?
hewrote
01-06-2008, 07:14 PM
what is the crown jewel?
In reality a crime involves a crime scene, a victim and weapon and often a motive. This hoax has only a motive. It has no victim, no crime scene and no murder weapon. In truth, no one was gassed, there were no gas chambers, and most of the victims died of disease. The motives for the hoax, however, are plenty.
The holocaust hoax has been used to justify and hide the shame of WW2, the greatest mistake in the history of man. It has been used to cover up the real reasons for WW2: FDR’s plan to destroy the old colonial powers of England, and Europe and to make the USA the greatest power in the world, of Churchill’s dream to destroy Germany, to become the Prime Minister of Great Britain and to maintain the British Empire, of Stalin’s dream to creating international communism, and, of course the Zionist’s dream of creating Israel.
The hoax has also been used to help replace Hitler’s real dreams of destroying the Jewish inspired, created, led, and financed communist revolution that destroyed Czarist Russia and threatened the world, of his taking back the land stolen from Germany after WW1 and of his stealing land from Eastern Europe to create a Greater Germany with the stupid claim of “Hitler wanting to take over the world” or of his murdering Jews for being Jews. For if the hoaxers can get the masses to believe in their hoax, they can get them to believe almost anything and they can get away with all they evil ways. And for the most part they have.
Has the hoax worked? So far it seems to have worked well. Most people have swallowed the phony reasons for WW2 and most people still think six million Jews and an untold number of lesser humans were gassed.
Was WW2 worth it? So where is communism today? Has the creation of Israel been good for Judaism? Are the colonial states any better off today than they were under European rule? And I think the sun has set on the British Empire. As for the USA, it has become the most evil country in the world ever: over 2 million of its citizens in jail, it has supported at least 50 dictators world wide from Saudi Arabia to Turkey to Iran…. And it has destroyed dozens of countries in doing so…it has or has tried to assassinated or overthrown dozens of world leaders from Lamumba to Aristide to Castro to Chavez who have tried to give the wealth of their countries back to their own people…as the USA continues to try to create its 100 year old dream of an American Empire.
Funny how life works out sometimes...so far.
(1) Although we were told all during the war that millions of Jews were being murdered in Germany, by dozens of bogus methods, and although many guards were beaten to a pulp to confess of such crimes and then hanged, it was quickly discovered by American pathologists as early as 1946 that there never were lethal gas chambers in Germany...Recall the guards were hanged for "crimes against humanity" ...not gassing...because we knew at that time that gassing had never happened..
(2) Although we have all seen the pictures of hundreds of dead and dying prisoners, mostly taken at Bergen-Belsen, the victims are obviously of disease. They died of the same fate that killed 2/3 of the 650, 000 victims of the American civil war: dysentery, and typhus.
(3) How many lies to you have to be told before you realize that you are being lied to?
Here is a short list of the some of the lies we have been told
(i) The Nazis fooled the Jews and others by gassing them with fake showers…it is impossible to transmit Zyklon B this way…and Jews are not stupid people…they would not lined up to be gassed by fake showers…
(ii) The gassing took place in a matter of minutes, killing up to 2000 people at a time, no one ever survived and then jad to be shot, and the mess was cleaned up in a matter of minutes for the next hourly killing…a ridiculous assertion...No successful explanation how the gas got into or out of the gas chambers…
(iii) The cremation took place without fuel, people burned up like fire wood, and left just dust…a crematorium impossibility…that somehow the dust just vanished by the ton …about 20 tons a day…
(iv) There were hundreds of people coming and going into the camps all day long, supplying the camps with food, supplies of all kinds, and yet no one has ever mentioned, and yet no has ever admitted to seeing any evidence of gas chambers, the enormous amount of fuel required, the thousands of dead bodies every hour, or the dust. Aerial photos show the same lack of evidence… Even Eli Wiesel never mentioned gas chambers in his first book on Auschwitz, after having been interned there himself.
(v) The Red Cross reports...in order to make the holocaust story stick...the Zionists have had to slander the Red Cross, The Pope, and ignore the fact that neither Churchill, DeGulle, Stalin nor even Eisenhower, ever mentioned a word about gas chambers in their memoires of the war.
(vi) The David Cole video…if that doesn’t do it, nothing will.
(vii) The Babi Yarn…no evidence of bullets or bodies in a ravine in which 50, 000 or more people were supposedly machined gunned to death…no evidence of soil disturbance...no mass graves that could account for the deaths of six million in any other killing fields or camps...
(viii) Finally. Remember these are the same people who lied to us about the creation of Israel…Their motto and lie….” A people less land for a people with no land”…as they looted, stole , murdered and drove 700, 000 defenseless Palestinians out of there homes, villages, farms, orchards and gardens, never to allow them back to where they had been living since the beginning of time… These are the same people who financed, implemented, and controlled the so-called Russian Revolution that killed untold tens of millions of Russian Christian landowners, and then covered up their role in this the greatest slaughter of Christian people, churches and priests of all time…These are the same people who made the Iraqi war a reality....and are trying to create an war against Iran....They are master liars. Believe not a word of which they claim.
synergy777
01-06-2008, 08:38 PM
maybe i am a spiritual slave,
i think like everyone else i am programmed by religous texts, scientific texts, historic texts, media etc.
maybe i will never know god/source, the truth about us, the human race etc.
i have tried to find the truth and i cannot.
all i know is that some supreme entity/creator/source exists and it might have created the cosmos and us, our spirits etc.
i think that the source would want us to be good/compassionate to eachother and nature.
i think that the source would want us to live in equality, unity, liberty and harmony.
maybe i don't know the truth or never will, but these are my views.
how can you free me, how can you show me how to get to the truth,
how can you teach me to use my power and change my life and thus serve/help others ?
http://www.thematrix101.com/matrix/symbolism.php
Matrix [UPDATED] in the dictionary refers to "a situation or surrounding substance within which something else originates, develops, or is contained. The womb."
Additionally, the concept of the Matrix as an illusion or a 'construct' that humans are unaware of resembles the idea of Samsara in Buddhism and Hinduism.
Samsara teaches that the world we consider 'real' is actually a projection of our own desires. From Morpheus Neo learns that how he'd perceived himself in the Matrix was simply a "the mental projection of your digital self." The "real" sensory world "is simply electrical signals interpreted by your brain."
http://www.accesstoinsight.org/lib/authors/thanissaro/samsara.html
Samsara literally means "wandering-on." Many people think of it as the Buddhist name for the place where we currently live — the place we leave when we go to nibbana. But in the early Buddhist texts, it's the answer, not to the question, "Where are we?" but to the question, "What are we doing?" Instead of a place, it's a process:
SaṃsÄra - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Samsara is derived from "to flow together," to go or pass through states, to wander. Mostly a great revolving door between life and death and a new life reincarnated cycle of life. Also known as a game in ancient India
In Hinduism, it is avidya, or ignorance, of one's true self, that leads to ego-consciousness of the body and the phenomenal world. This grounds one in kāma (desire) and the perpetual chain of karma and reincarnation.
The state of illusion is known as Maya.
Hinduism has many terms for the ultimate place like moksha, mukti, nirvana, and mahasamadhi.
The Hindu Yoga traditions hold various beliefs. Moksha may be achieved by love of Ishwar/God (see bhakti movement), by psycho-physical meditation (Raja Yoga), by discrimination of what is real and unreal through intense contemplation (Jnana Yoga) and through Karma Yoga, the path of selfless action that subverts the ego and enforces understanding of the unity of all. Advaita Vedanta, which heavily influenced Hindu Yoga, believes that Brahman, the ultimate Truth-Consciousness-Bliss, is the infinite, impersonal reality (as contrasted to the Buddhist concept of shunyata) and that through realization of it, all temporal states like deities, the cosmos and samsara itself are revealed to be nothing but manifestations of Brahman
In Sikhism, it is thought that due to the commendable past actions and deeds (known as karma or kirat) that people obtain the chance of human birth, which is regarded in Sikhism as the highest possible on Earth and therefore an opportunity that should not be wasted.
And only by continued good actions and the "Grace of the Almighty" can one obtain liberation from the continuous cycle of births and deaths of various bodily forms that the soul has been undergoing since the creation of the universe.
The end of the cycle of transmigration of the soul is known as mukti. For Sikhs, the state of mukti can be achieved whilst still alive, known as "Jivan Mukat", literally "liberated whilst alive".
Maya (illusion) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Maya (Sanskrit माया māyāa[›]), in Indian religions, has multiple meanings. Maya, is the principal deity who creates, perpetuates and governs the phantasmagoria, illusion and dream of duality in the phenomenal Universe.
For some mystics this manifestation is real, but it is a fleeting reality; it is a mistake, although a natural one, to believe that Maya represents a fundamental reality or Truth.
Each person, each physical object, from the perspective of eternity is like a brief, disturbed drop of water from an unbounded ocean.
The goal of enlightenment is to understand this — more precisely, to experience this: to see intuitively that the distinction between the self and the Universe is a false dichotomy. The distinction between consciousness and physical matter, between mind and body (refer bodymind), is the result of an unenlightened perspective.
Moksha - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Moksha is seen as a final release from one's worldly conception of self, the loosening of the shackle of experiential duality and a realization of one's own fundamental nature which is true being, pure consciousness and bliss (satcitananda) an experience which is ineffable and beyond sensation.
According to the branch of Hinduism known as advaita vedanta, at liberation the individual soul or atman is realised to be one with the Ground of all being – the Source of all phenomenal existence known as Brahman. The self-as-individual is realised to have never existed.
lord summerisle
01-06-2008, 11:50 PM
Sayanims are mossad agents for example Robert Maxwell was a sayanim they are hidden all over the world in many different guises. They are jews in jobs who are asked to do their duty for isreal by mossad, they report to katsas. Read Gideons Spies it will delve into this subject very deeply and factual.
eternal_spirit
02-06-2008, 11:04 PM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20549
mauviene
03-06-2008, 01:15 AM
Yea...at least we all know that the supreme part of there racism only exists within there mind. Delusion in the 21st century, what a surprise:rolleyes:. The funny thing is that almost all people who know a good deal about economics and politics realize this simple fact..but no one has the courage to face the ominous ADL and get branded as antisemitic, so it's usually a great dinner time topic.
synergy777
03-06-2008, 04:35 PM
every religion/nation has a similar religous/nationalistic philosophy to zionism. just look at religous and imperial history from africa, asia and europe, all use god to justify their imperial actions, all claim to be the master race/chosen people, all claim theirs is the only true religion.
its all divide and rule/opposames
the fact is i know its sounds corny, but we should love everyone, as we are all one/connected, we are all manipulated, all have done things wrong, made mistakes etc, to err is human, to forgive is divine. compassion, unity etc is the way forward.
i think we should see things accurately, see all sides, understand all motives etc.
i have made many mistakes and most probably will make many more, as i am not perfect etc, but the trick is to ask yourself why you did it and what have you learnt from it. that way it adds experience/knowledge which gives us a database of wisdom (knowledge and experience), which then helps us to empathise(understand) with others and not judge them etc.
personally no one who ever lived on this planet was perfect and never will be, so we must all be real to eachother. as perfection is subjective/relative to the observer, what is perfection anyway, lol
also compassion means loving those we want to hate eg the elite/clergy etc, as its easy to love people you like, but hard to love those you hate. if you love everyone, you understand why they did the thing or do the things they do, eg the elite. they have done bad, but why, they seek power, control, security etc like us, but they are also under control/manipulated by the higher dark powers.
also if the source/creator/god can love me, all of us from the poor to the elite, after all our mistakes/evil actions etc, then we should love eachother too.
1love = peace.
07august
26-07-2011, 06:10 AM
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=20549
911 - Bibi Tells USA when to "Move It"
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4vfp65r_2gg
everything is good for the joos, when you control the money system federal reserve, have bought the elections through AIPAC, run most of the fortune 500 companies, have brainwashed Christians kill Muslims and destablize their governments? Well, they are sitting there getting whatever they want, whenever they want. The fox news machine sways the masses under their tune.bohemianh