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princessofwands
09-05-2010, 03:36 PM
Picture the scenario......a new shopping centre is about to open. Hordes of consumers converge on the city centre, eager to get in there and find out what they can experience and buy. Returning home with bags of new clothes, they feel an urgency to wear their new purchases and show them off to impress people.
Isn’t this also what we do with a new book or a website that promises us a new ‘idea’, a conspiracy theory or a faster route to awakening and enlightenment? The mind is eager to read it as quickly as possible. Our thoughts shape themselves into an imitation of the thoughts in the book. We copy those thoughts and paste them into our own writings. We’re playing the 'awakening' game.
Unfortunately, this kind of spiritual shopping is not true awakening, though it can point us towards it. And just as too much shopping leaves us tired and confused, the choice of so many theories to follow can leave us mentally exhausted and bewildered. Where is the Truth to be found?
At home. By ‘staying home‘, we no longer go through the endless process of re-shaping our minds around a new idea at regular intervals. Eventually, we realise that none of the thoughts that we get from our reading are ‘better’ than the thoughts we had the previous times. They are all variants of what truth is, filtered through the mind of a writer according to his experience of life.
Experience is the key. Truth is in the things that happen all around us and these truths are configured to be exactly apt for the stage that we are at and the lessons that we need to learn. Life is speaking to us all the time, in fact ‘we’ are speaking to ourselves. Truth comes from what we are inside at this precise moment, and our environment mirrors this. No-one else can speak our truth for us and we cannot truly understand another person’s truth either.
Let the new shopping centre open without us: we do not need the goodies that it promises to contain.
:D
dryadlover
09-05-2010, 05:10 PM
Wise words. :)
Just follow the path of Love and you will find all the truth you need. Love is the truth. Really, no matter how much truth seeking you do, you always come to where you started from, which is Love.
:)
princessofwands
09-05-2010, 06:20 PM
^ thank you, this is very true! :D
lee13
10-05-2010, 01:01 AM
Brilliant, bang on
princessofwands
10-05-2010, 09:40 AM
He he, I'm a spiritual shopping junkie, really. That's why I wrote the piece, to MYSELF. When will Amazon send the new DI book......?
:D :D :D
rubynuts
10-05-2010, 09:45 PM
+1
..although there is couple of books I'd recommend..;):D
windowpane
11-05-2010, 04:28 AM
Hi Princess (Ms Wand), :)
This is my first post on this website, and I'm happy to begin by engaging in your great thread. It's nice to see good 'ol common sense combined with spirituality. Your thoughts are brilliant in their simple Truth. If only...
Lines crossing circles, intersected by arrows, encased in pyramids with eyes; spiraling into themselves, lifting off, settling back, twirling; spewing pinpoints of Light in every direction. Aha! OMG! This is it! well, maybe not. Capes and jewels, mystics and alchemists; numbers and signs. Holograms and parallels. Auras and incense. And Nordics, lizards, & almond eyes.
The fascinating, chaotic, addictive journey of the truth-seeker...and I can't get out of it! My soul longs to rest, bask in the delights of life in the slow-lane, notice the dewdrops, the beautiful , loving, life-giving dewdrops. But I can't!
Movement, comparison, exploration, discovery (shopping?) drive me, won't allow me to slow and sip the cool, refreshing water you offer, Princess.
Yes, what you say makes perfect sense. If only...
whiteknightd
11-05-2010, 06:58 AM
Picture the scenario......a new shopping centre is about to open. Hordes of consumers converge on the city centre, eager to get in there and find out what they can experience and buy. Returning home with bags of new clothes, they feel an urgency to wear their new purchases and show them off to impress people.
Isn’t this also what we do with a new book or a website that promises us a new ‘idea’, a conspiracy theory or a faster route to awakening and enlightenment? The mind is eager to read it as quickly as possible. Our thoughts shape themselves into an imitation of the thoughts in the book. We copy those thoughts and paste them into our own writings. We’re playing the 'awakening' game.
Unfortunately, this kind of spiritual shopping is not true awakening, though it can point us towards it. And just as too much shopping leaves us tired and confused, the choice of so many theories to follow can leave us mentally exhausted and bewildered. Where is the Truth to be found?
At home. By ‘staying home‘, we no longer go through the endless process of re-shaping our minds around a new idea at regular intervals. Eventually, we realise that none of the thoughts that we get from our reading are ‘better’ than the thoughts we had the previous times. They are all variants of what truth is, filtered through the mind of a writer according to his experience of life.
Experience is the key. Truth is in the things that happen all around us and these truths are configured to be exactly apt for the stage that we are at and the lessons that we need to learn. Life is speaking to us all the time, in fact ‘we’ are speaking to ourselves. Truth comes from what we are inside at this precise moment, and our environment mirrors this. No-one else can speak our truth for us and we cannot truly understand another person’s truth either.
Let the new shopping centre open without us: we do not need the goodies that it promises to contain.
:D
ya i always think it's ridiculous when people charged hundreds of dollars to help you "awaken". rubbish
rubynuts
11-05-2010, 07:05 AM
hey window, welcome!
no worries, nothing wrong with the self inquery.. it happens in one way or another until the self realization takes place..and it's seen (by no-one) that there was never nothing to seek and no-one who has lost or found anything;) but thats just the game, the divine commedy:p
always now-here:)
princessofwands
11-05-2010, 10:33 AM
Welcome to the forum, Mr Pane ;) (please correct me if you are a lady...) :D
I'm pleased you were drawn into my confession of an addiction to wolfing down spiritual and conspiracy information.
This description of yours - "Lines crossing circles, intersected by arrows, encased in pyramids with eyes; spiraling into themselves, lifting off, settling back, twirling; spewing pinpoints of Light in every direction. Aha! OMG! This is it! well, maybe not. Capes and jewels, mystics and alchemists; numbers and signs. Holograms and parallels. Auras and incense. And Nordics, lizards, & almond eyes"
sums my inner consciousness up to a tee. You missed out a coupla things though.....the density of info packed into my mind is far worse than that!! I'm just starting a new book written by Pleiadeans!! :eek: :D :eek:
When will I tear myself away? Notice the dewdrops and the cherry blossom?
They say, to 'receive' from the inner/higher Self, you have first to empty yourself. There was a cool Buddhist guy in the film 2012 who demonstrated this by pouring tea into a cup until it flowed over, to show the young lad that you can't put any more into a cup that is too full.
Hmmm...:D
Rubynuts, it certainly is a divine comedy-tragedy. We're seekers in the game, hopping from square to square on the game board, picking up points, falling back, being overtaken by people who know more than we do....why don't we just say to the Game Masters, HALLLLLOOOOOO! I'm not playing any more........
:)
whiteknightd
11-05-2010, 10:44 AM
Welcome to the forum, Mr Pane ;) (please correct me if you are a lady...) :D
I'm pleased you were drawn into my confession of an addiction to wolfing down spiritual and conspiracy information.
This description of yours - "Lines crossing circles, intersected by arrows, encased in pyramids with eyes; spiraling into themselves, lifting off, settling back, twirling; spewing pinpoints of Light in every direction. Aha! OMG! This is it! well, maybe not. Capes and jewels, mystics and alchemists; numbers and signs. Holograms and parallels. Auras and incense. And Nordics, lizards, & almond eyes"
sums my inner consciousness up to a tee. You missed out a coupla things though.....the density of info packed into my mind is far worse than that!! I'm just starting a new book written by Pleiadeans!! :eek: :D :eek:
When will I tear myself away? Notice the dewdrops and the cherry blossom?
They say, to 'receive' from the inner/higher Self, you have first to empty yourself. There was a cool Buddhist guy in the film 2012 who demonstrated this by pouring tea into a cup until it flowed over, to show the young lad that you can't put any more into a cup that is too full.
Hmmm...:D
Rubynuts, it certainly is a divine comedy-tragedy. We're seekers in the game, hopping from square to square on the game board, picking up points, falling back, being overtaken by people who know more than we do....why don't we just say to the Game Masters, HALLLLLOOOOOO! I'm not playing any more........
:)
i totally relate to this post
windowpane
12-05-2010, 04:42 AM
Thank you Rubynuts and Princess
for the thoughtful welcomes. :)
...and the encouraging words. Think I'll clean out my clothes closet and take the unnecessary items to Goodwill. Really. A symbolic message to inner self.
rubynuts
13-05-2010, 03:19 PM
"..it certainly is a divine comedy-tragedy. We're seekers in the game, hopping from square to square on the game board, picking up points, falling back, being overtaken by people who know more than we do....why don't we just say to the Game Masters, HALLLLLOOOOOO! I'm not playing any more........"
it sure looks like that:D
although, when the self realization happens the game still continues but it's seen that all the players, the game board and the Game Master, is the same one... I Am.. and i am you...:):)
purplepebble
13-05-2010, 07:17 PM
I like this type of thread because I think it is really important to realize that Spirituality cannot be bought or sold.
One thing that really peeves me is the Massage Therapy/New Age healer type of stuff. I dont think I have ever met a "healer/healing facilitator" or anyone that claims to be one who isn't in it for the money, charging ridiculous amounts of money that most people can't afford. Yeah, thats healing:(
Some of these "healers" have the brilliant comeback of - "well if you can't afford it, you are not ready for it, you haven't healed the poverty programming within" type of crap.
I have met a lot of people who are addicted to this type of stuff as well though. One therapy after another, a trap within a trap within a trap. DNA activation,energy work, light work blahblahblah
princessofwands
14-05-2010, 10:02 AM
Purplepebble, they couldn't get away with it if there weren't people addicted to chasing the carrot of enlightenment/healing/salvation/whatever. So long as the carrot is always dangled just out of reach, people will go to silly lengths of effort and expense in the hope that this time, the carrot will prove to be real.
They forget (or don't realise) that we already ARE what we are 'supposed to be' and that healing and a true understanding of our universal nature can also come from within and cost us nothing other than the loss of 'ego'.
:D
vajra
14-05-2010, 10:27 AM
on a personal level is true what you say.
On a mass level it doesnt apply so easy, cause its a conflict between thoose multiperceptions.
princessofwands
14-05-2010, 10:40 AM
could you expand on that please Vajra?
vajra
14-05-2010, 12:23 PM
Hi dear Princess
As diffrent kinds of system are created in our socitys, people has a perception how it should be, as you saying, everybody stay at their home and follow their own inner guidence, cause reality unfold in each second infront of their eyes, this will work out if we dont have common failing systems, witch all people are together creating good or bad.
So when our commond good failing we have to step out of our livingroom, and do something.
As you say spiritualshopping is food for thoughts (or not), and can bring you futher inturping the reality thats unfold infront of you, sure but we need to shape up our awareness(not awakening) about the world now...regarding the ultra ideas, you dont have to think true or not true? just look and grasp at the politicalsystem alround the world, its lot of lies and corruptions every were, as im swedish (sorry for my spellings here) there is lot of scams going on here and all politics people lies to us. there are plenty of work for an intelligent person, spirituality is a misconception if somebody thinks that cleaning this mess up is not
So the personal perception has no clue or knowledge whats actually happens in our systems, thats why we need to be educated about it, but we have to use our intution and intelligence and do the research to find out the truth for all of our sake, this just one area to work on, banks are another etc, so what i mean is meditation doesnt help on a flat tire :-) i know you havent said it, but personal transformations often comes biting you hard, an we cannot sleep no more.
true sense of spirituality is not a float of ideas or methods, it is to beat the opponent on their homefield with intelligens and same rules, an idiot is always failing playing an intellectual game cause hes an idiot, only in our world he can get away with it, cause we are not aware or sleeping
armoured_amazon
14-05-2010, 12:26 PM
Picture the scenario......a new shopping centre is about to open. Hordes of consumers converge on the city centre, eager to get in there and find out what they can experience and buy. Returning home with bags of new clothes, they feel an urgency to wear their new purchases and show them off to impress people.
Isn’t this also what we do with a new book or a website that promises us a new ‘idea’, a conspiracy theory or a faster route to awakening and enlightenment?
Yup. Good post :)
princessofwands
14-05-2010, 01:48 PM
Well said Vajra! :cool: :D :)
We have to sharpen up our own powers of perception and this has to be a different perception than our normal, everyday one. We have to see quite differently. This is not just about spotting the scams happening around us but seeing the agenda behind the scams, what the powers-that-be really want to acheive. And that takes us into a world of energy manipulation, where the prime objective is to keep our frequencies low, and our emotions turbulent and angry, because this is the vibration that feeds the dark energies in control of our world. They want to stop the obvious awakening that's happening. Not just the awakening to how we're being controlled by governments, etc, but much more importantly the awakening to our true universal nature.
By dealing with the 'scam' at vibrational level, we have more chance of truly revealing the darkness and filling it with light.
Some 'awakening' books seem designed, intentionally or not, to keep our minds buzzing round so many facts and figures and theories and speculations that we're still trapped in the matrix. We're not standing back and looking properly at what's going on. In fact by pouring all our intention into tales of misdeeds, we might even be feeding those actions and perpetuating their existence. :eek:
vajra
14-05-2010, 02:47 PM
Princess
you wrote "taking a step back a looking properly",i suggest "and think and be pissed of and turn that energy into creative force to challange the rutten eggs in our basket", i totally agree with you,
In my day to day living experince, is that people are just slightly pissed and are not doing nothing and never mentions unfair problems until i by accident pick up the subject.
(no im not a negative who search trouble to wain about hehe)
then i notice the anger inside of them, and they just accept it, strangely or by my heritage i get pissed of, if somebody trespass human rights and can not just drop the subject or carry it deep down, cause love its so fundamental rooted in our being and should be expressed throu good acts and speak. and if you are in a position with repsonsibility over others, how can you have the heart to let the evil side of you rule?
Anyway i dont belive in people going to react, its part of the effective programming, look at this all over the news is raporting war and death every day, with coldness the reporter shift between the weather, death and idol.
hollywood make incredible ridiculous movies killing 10 mens while hanging with 1 finger on a cliff, the after making love to a pretty woman, hehe no remorse no nothing, and we are paying to se this shit, likewise goes for pc games and others.
Another programming is by shocking your world with diffrent horror like 9 11, it makes your mind soft and paralysed for later accept more criminal acts to fight these horrors.
Ok enough haha, you heard it before what is more great and challagin is to do some creative to change our world to the better, we can not just talk and get negative about it.
So i have some ideas some more the 12 years old, and some new,
lets share some creative powers and do something :-)
purplepebble
14-05-2010, 04:20 PM
Purplepebble, they couldn't get away with it if there weren't people addicted to chasing the carrot of enlightenment/healing/salvation/whatever. So long as the carrot is always dangled just out of reach, people will go to silly lengths of effort and expense in the hope that this time, the carrot will prove to be real.
They forget (or don't realise) that we already ARE what we are 'supposed to be' and that healing and a true understanding of our universal nature can also come from within and cost us nothing other than the loss of 'ego'.
:D
Agreed. Do you think that the same goes for Conspiracy Theories too?
Do people need to be paying attention to the Moon for instance? To me this seems like a diversion.
princessofwands
14-05-2010, 07:19 PM
purplepebble, I think a certain amount of info about the conspiracies is very helpful as it makes sense of a lot of weird things that go on in our world. But you can certainly overload your brain too much with too much info, and not actually be able to do anything with that info.
I don't yet know the full moon theory as I haven't read the new book. I'm curious to hear how 'the matrix' is supposedly controlled from there. Whether 'knowing' is any help in getting out of the matrix though, remains to be seen.
Love and enlightenment seems to be about hate and re-lie-ability. Make as many individuals depend on you while being independent yourself... If you can really see, this is what the 'enlightened masters' are all doing. Why are they all so kind to everyone? Because they are like everyone; hating and lying. Up to the point of trance-action.
Is this a matter of good and bad? I'm inclined to think that everything is just about power.
purplepebble
14-05-2010, 08:52 PM
Prince of Wands - Nice reply.
Arch-
I do think that the Enlightenment industry is just like any other business venture, I can't stand the word "Master" - I also think though that there are quite a few people in the conspiracy industry who are "Masters" but aren't calling themselves such.