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gorgeousbutterfly
12-10-2007, 07:21 AM
i heard of something dhhp? exerise is not working enough for me. so what else?

do you think my depression can be from a lot of diet soda? it just pops out of nowhere even when i am enjoying life.

thanks

orgo knight
12-10-2007, 07:27 AM
St Johns Wort has worked ok for me in the past. It's natural and your health food store should stock it.
Keep away from the diet drinks.They're bad with a capital B :)

gorgeousbutterfly
12-10-2007, 07:29 AM
St Johns Wort has worked ok for me in the past. It's natural and your health food store should stock it.
Keep away from the diet drinks.They're bad with a capital B :)


i heard the dhhp or whatever it was was better. why are diet drinks bad? where can i get that info?

orgo knight
12-10-2007, 07:35 AM
I've never heard of dhhp.I'll have to check it out.
Diet drinks will more than likely contain aspartame which is poison.It will affect your health. Here's some info
http://www.sweetpoison.com/

gorgeousbutterfly
12-10-2007, 07:44 AM
i use spelenda and drink spelenda drinks

orgo knight
12-10-2007, 07:51 AM
i use spelenda and drink spelenda drinks

Do yourself a favour and chuck it in the bin :D

gorgeousbutterfly
12-10-2007, 07:56 AM
Do yourself a favour and chuck it in the bin :D

OK. will be very hard i'm addicted. :(

orgo knight
12-10-2007, 08:01 AM
Yeah, your health will thank you for it. Got a few unhealthy dietry things myself to eliminate.All the best.

anoninnyc
12-10-2007, 08:28 AM
bee pollen works wonders.

megafish33
12-10-2007, 08:36 AM
hey gorgeous,

Don't drink diet sodas... they're not healthy at all really. The phosphoric acid in it needs to be neutralized in the body, which is done with calcium leeched off your bones. There are studies that link soda, diet or not, with osteoporosis. Buy some juices and some carbonated water to make yourself your own sodas. Use 1/4 fruit/veggie juice and 3/4 sparkling water. Splenda is actually mostly sugar, since the sucralose chemical needs to be bound by dextrose and maltodextrin. Sucralose contains chlorine in it. About 15% of the actually sucralose chemical does indeed get absorbed by your body, and out of that we have no clue how much chlorine gets in and how much gets flushed out. While artificial sweeteners probably won't cause half the problems people claim they do, if used only several times a year or less, we have no idea about long-term damage. Also interesting... It's been noted that when people try to restrict caloric intake by just buying diet and low-fat/carb products they just feel it's a ticket to eat more. Many people have actually been found to have eaten extra calories during consumption of regular diet and low-this or that products. Consider Stevia extract, Trader Joe's carries them.

I don't know if you eat animal products, but have you considered increasing your intake of polyunsaturated fats? Some studies indicate that omega 3 fatty acids in wild fish, and properly fed animals(as well as some plant sources, though your body can use animal sources more readily when your sick), can help you better cope with symptoms of depression, especially if you have pain, fatigue, and manic phases associated with your illness.

If you want a "natural" remedy specifically designed for depression you should check out a bunch of natural health-care practitioners. Look up local N.D.'s or M.D.'s who use natural treatments. Various internal cleanses can really help some people. Prescription homeopathy is also an option. Psychotherapies are also different, so try to find one that works for you. Research mind-body medicine.

Hope you feel better!

gremlin
12-10-2007, 09:06 AM
get yourself a playstation 3, game resistance and play online and just go round killing people, well not people, more like blips on screen, very pleasureable

gorgeousbutterfly
12-10-2007, 09:11 AM
hey gorgeous,

Don't drink diet sodas... they're not healthy at all really. The phosphoric acid in it needs to be neutralized in the body, which is done with calcium leeched off your bones. There are studies that link soda, diet or not, with osteoporosis. Buy some juices and some carbonated water to make yourself your own sodas. Use 1/4 fruit/veggie juice and 3/4 sparkling water. Splenda is actually mostly sugar, since the sucralose chemical needs to be bound by dextrose and maltodextrin. Sucralose contains chlorine in it. About 15% of the actually sucralose chemical does indeed get absorbed by your body, and out of that we have no clue how much chlorine gets in and how much gets flushed out. While artificial sweeteners probably won't cause half the problems people claim they do, if used only several times a year or less, we have no idea about long-term damage. Also interesting... It's been noted that when people try to restrict caloric intake by just buying diet and low-fat/carb products they just feel it's a ticket to eat more. Many people have actually been found to have eaten extra calories during consumption of regular diet and low-this or that products. Consider Stevia extract, Trader Joe's carries them.

I don't know if you eat animal products, but have you considered increasing your intake of polyunsaturated fats? Some studies indicate that omega 3 fatty acids in wild fish, and properly fed animals(as well as some plant sources, though your body can use animal sources more readily when your sick), can help you better cope with symptoms of depression, especially if you have pain, fatigue, and manic phases associated with your illness.

If you want a "natural" remedy specifically designed for depression you should check out a bunch of natural health-care practitioners. Look up local N.D.'s or M.D.'s who use natural treatments. Various internal cleanses can really help some people. Prescription homeopathy is also an option. Psychotherapies are also different, so try to find one that works for you. Research mind-body medicine.

Hope you feel better!


Wow, this is very excellent advise. i eat a lot of fish,mostly salmon and tuna , and both raw and but mostly cooked. i also eat a lot of eggs. i have taken omega 3 supplements and haven't noticed a difference other then healthier hair and skin. and maybe a little boast in mood. i'm not as moody but thats it.

i think i will try to find someone who is into alternative therapy.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
12-10-2007, 09:16 AM
i heard of something dhhp? exerise is not working enough for me. so what else?

do you think my depression can be from a lot of diet soda? it just pops out of nowhere even when i am enjoying life.

thanks

Hi GB,

Originally, I was going to do an asshole thing, like post pictures of razor blades, and poison, and other deadly things. I thought it would be funny.

But I thought for a second and realized maybe this is someone who is serious about their problem, and I know if I was feeling this shitty, I would be hurt to have someone just telling me to kill myself. For that, I'm sorry I even thought that.

In my opinion, although you may not want to try it, go into the bathroom. Make sure you are alone in the house. Stand naked infront of the mirror. And just look at yourself in the eyes. No matter what happens, just keep looking at yourself in the eyes. If you start to cry, go with it. Just cry. But once you have it under control, smile at yourself. Start to remember all the good things that have happened, and try to remember all the nice things people have said to you. Smile about those things, and tell yourself while looking into your own eyes "I love you".

john white
12-10-2007, 09:30 AM
what are some natural remedies for depression?

Working to understand, accept and love yourself :)

anoninnyc
12-10-2007, 09:46 AM
Wow, this is very excellent advise. i eat a lot of fish,mostly salmon and tuna , and both raw and but mostly cooked. i also eat a lot of eggs. i have taken omega 3 supplements and haven't noticed a difference other then healthier hair and skin. and maybe a little boast in mood. i'm not as moody but thats it.

i think i will try to find someone who is into alternative therapy.

watch out for all that mercury- that could be the culprit. pregnant and i don't eat tuna at all because of it. also all of those artificial sweeteners are poison.

gorgeousbutterfly
12-10-2007, 09:50 AM
Hi GB,

Originally, I was going to do an asshole thing, like post pictures of razor blades, and poison, and other deadly things. I thought it would be funny.

But I thought for a second and realized maybe this is someone who is serious about their problem, and I know if I was feeling this shitty, I would be hurt to have someone just telling me to kill myself. For that, I'm sorry I even thought that.

In my opinion, although you may not want to try it, go into the bathroom. Make sure you are alone in the house. Stand naked infront of the mirror. And just look at yourself in the eyes. No matter what happens, just keep looking at yourself in the eyes. If you start to cry, go with it. Just cry. But once you have it under control, smile at yourself. Start to remember all the good things that have happened, and try to remember all the nice things people have said to you. Smile about those things, and tell yourself while looking into your own eyes "I love you".



don't worry . i have love for myself , i reallly do and i love people a lot cause of this. i don't think my depression stems from anything like this , for example i can be having the time of my life and everything going on and then it pops up out of nowhere. there is evidence that some depression can be biological. i don't know. i have done this exercise though. not naked, but i am comfortable with my nudity that i don't have to do this. if anything my depression stems more from lack of connection with people and my family not being there for me.

anoninnyc
12-10-2007, 10:00 AM
if anything my depression stems more from lack of connection with people and my family not being there for me.

sorry about that. think this is a problem for many people. is your family not close by or are you just not close? humans are social creatures and the solitary life is not for most of us. you need a few close friends or family members who live nearby. if you don't have that then you can always make new friends and work on it and over time you will have good friends.

gorgeousbutterfly
12-10-2007, 10:10 AM
sorry about that. think this is a problem for many people. is your family not close by or are you just not close? humans are social creatures and the solitary life is not for most of us. you need a few close friends or family members who live nearby. if you don't have that then you can always make new friends and work on it and over time you will have good friends.

I am not close with any of my family members. they alll work A LOT. are never home and make excuses. I don't have a lot of friends, i had one who moved away last year, and another one is making excuses not to hang out. so i am really pretty bad i have no one to talk to. i am a very social creature , i like to socialize. but is also very hard for me to make friends because i am so different . i always felt like an alien. nobody understands me. i'm happy i found this board because i feel i relate to people here more then people in real life. i mean peolpe here are OPEN. i live in a very shallow area in los angeles. and i just can't associate with the society here. i have tried i have done it in high school. i feel more lonely with them and i am not going to be freinds with people for the sake of friendship.

father ted
12-10-2007, 10:18 AM
Looking into your dark side, recognising the problem(s) and working on a way of fixing them. Rather than denial and feeling sorry for yourself.

gorgeousbutterfly
12-10-2007, 10:21 AM
Looking into your dark side, recognising the problem(s) and working on a way of fixing them. Rather than denial and feeling sorry for yourself.


you obviously never had depression. and did you read the whole thread? :rolleyes:

anoninnyc
12-10-2007, 10:29 AM
i live in a very shallow area in los angeles. and i just can't associate with the society here.

wow. l.a., huh? that is enough to depress anyone who is a genuine and real person. even in a plastic city like l.a., i wonder, maybe there is a way for you to meet like-minded individuals. sorry, not offering you any good advice right now, but there must be a few decent people out there- just need to figure out how to find them. any activities related to gardening that you could join up with? may sound odd, but it is a very calming and enjoyable hobby and not the type of thing your typical l.a. person would be into.

father ted
12-10-2007, 12:23 PM
you obviously never had depression. and did you read the whole thread? :rolleyes:


I did read the whole thread, I have had depression which is why I posted on this thread, maybe you just don't like the answer or maybe you did not understand that this is a natural remedy? My post is as it stands, if you don't like it there's still no need to be negative about it.

Diet sodas, exersize, herbal remedies and whatever else does not get to the root of the problem. Using your mind is the most natural way of helping yourself.

malvern
12-10-2007, 12:36 PM
you are the natural remedies... in base terms depression is a bloked goal, or goals. the course of the goal is a subject.....

Looking into your dark side, recognising the problem(s) and working on a way of fixing them.

both statements are about you understanding and coming to terms.... if something helps you along the way, ie herb, or an inner calm, even just talking, so be it ... but remember it might not work for others...

Depression is no joke..... :mad:


freedom for all :)

tinmenace
12-10-2007, 12:39 PM
Depression or Ascension Symptoms? - Try Vitamin B-Complex - THREAD (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8892)

Anders Lindman
12-10-2007, 06:12 PM
i heard of something dhhp? exerise is not working enough for me. so what else?

do you think my depression can be from a lot of diet soda? it just pops out of nowhere even when i am enjoying life.

thanks

My guess is that the root cause of depression is because of the beliefs that we have been programmed with, such as "I must struggle in this world". One must attack those beliefs with full force and anger. To totally obliterate those fuckers!!!!!!!!!!!

intruder
12-10-2007, 06:23 PM
See Candace Pert's "The Molecules of Emotion" for a scientific discussion of the body/mind. FOR SURE....the "soda" is not helping, especially if synthetic sweeteners are used. Changes is diet, more exercise...these are beginnings. Chemical intervention should be the LAST resort.

eat_a_grey
12-10-2007, 06:49 PM
Actually Father Ted is on to something.

As I have mentioned before I have chronic ptsd and I am bi-polar.

Again I can only speak for myself and what worked for me.

I think acceptance plays a huge role in overcoming some areas of depression.

I have self mutilating problems,that is I used to cut the shit out of my self,I have scars all over my body.And NO Im not some emo crying for attention.Its one thing to cut your self,and its another to cut yourself and then self promote yourself as a cutter.I am only saying this because it was a very serious problem for me.

As odd as it may sound,not caring anymore really worked.Now hear me out here.

Once I came to truly believe that our life on this planet is not that long,and death lurks around every corner,and to enjoy what little time we actually have here,the trivial problems soon went away,I dont take life for granted anymore

I have overcame many hurdles in my life,I have been on deaths bed before,and for some reason I keep on ticking.I eventually came to realize that I must be here for some purpose,and wallowing in my sorrow's is just not going to cut it anymore.I mean I slit my own throat before because I was so miserable in life that I just could not bear to wake up in the morning anymore.

Personally,I dont believe in such things as foods/diet to really be a root of any 'depression' I think it lies much deeper in your soul than that.

One must face their own demons head on,and either it will make you stronger,or it will kill you.

However,you have made the first step,and thats realizing that you do have a problem.This is a huge hurdle to overcome.Its just time to do some serious soul searching and think about what your true meaning in life is.

Anders Lindman
12-10-2007, 06:52 PM
See Candace Pert's "The Molecules of Emotion" for a scientific discussion of the body/mind. FOR SURE....the "soda" is not helping, especially if synthetic sweeteners are used. Changes is diet, more exercise...these are beginnings. Chemical intervention should be the LAST resort.

Molecules of Emotion, that's a brilliant book. I am training my mind to not go into destructive emotional modes. For example I read today that the mortgage interest rates are rising in Sweden, and then I started to worry and have all sorts of unpleasant emotions, but instead of doing that I should think: "Nooooo!!! Fuck those interest rates. They are not MY problems" Technically speaking the are my problems, but I am looking at it in a totally wrong way when I get overly nasty emotions. So instead I start to attack my own thoughts and emotions to change them, and that seems to be a good strategy for improving my emotions.

stickylolly
12-10-2007, 07:18 PM
I am a Bach Practitioner (flower remedies), The depression that you are describing would benefit from a remedy called mustard. You can buy the remedy in any health food shop .. I would recommend the Rescue Remedy also. Take 2 drops on your tongue or into drinks 4 times a day, this should see your sudden bought of depression lifted, take as long as required. If you want to ask any questions ... ask away .....

x

anoninnyc
12-10-2007, 07:26 PM
Depression or Ascension Symptoms? - Try Vitamin B-Complex - THREAD (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=8892)








yeah, that is why i said bee pollen- it is a super food very rich in the b complexes and all natural.

joss classey
12-10-2007, 08:11 PM
for ideas on curing depression look to Epicurus (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Epicurus)

punjabibeard
12-10-2007, 09:05 PM
http://www.seeknatural.co.uk/product-1806.html :p

rossus
12-10-2007, 09:53 PM
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~acceptance/ACourseInHappinessSabine/Happinesslogo.gif

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~acceptance/ACourseInHappinessSabine/HappinessCover.htm

joss classey
12-10-2007, 10:13 PM
http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~acceptance/ACourseInHappinessSabine/Happinesslogo.gif

http://www.members.optusnet.com.au/~acceptance/ACourseInHappinessSabine/HappinessCover.htm

hey that's pretty good!

serpentoffire
12-10-2007, 10:55 PM
http://www.hot-screensaver.com/wp-myimages/make-love.jpg

gorgeousbutterfly
12-10-2007, 11:13 PM
I did read the whole thread, I have had depression which is why I posted on this thread, maybe you just don't like the answer or maybe you did not understand that this is a natural remedy? My post is as it stands, if you don't like it there's still no need to be negative about it.

Diet sodas, exersize, herbal remedies and whatever else does not get to the root of the problem. Using your mind is the most natural way of helping yourself.

Ok thats cool, i should have stated that i was already working on my mental, but i feel using vitamins or natural remedies might amplify my results. so that was my purpose of this post.

father ted
13-10-2007, 11:24 AM
Ok thats cool, i should have stated that i was already working on my mental, but i feel using vitamins or natural remedies might amplify my results. so that was my purpose of this post.

Using vitamins or natural remedies as I understand it do provide help, in a way that allows you to ease the problem in order for you to be able to have the peace of mind enough to be able to work through the problem mentaly. I have found things like vitamins ( vitamin b ) and herbs and what have you, to work, but only temporalily, which is I suppose that's when you need to use that window of opportunity to work with your inner self.

Coffee and organic coffee I have tried, and it's good, but wears off after a while, like with most things. Plus, it wasn't that good for my liver. However, organic coffee was much much better... if you haven't tried that already.

It's interesting that vitamin b complex, and coffee give you kind of the same results (make you more awake, that sort of thing). I have heard that truck drivers use bitamin complex to help them stay awake and to concentrate (that's what they're supposed to use:rolleyes:).

Anders Lindman
13-10-2007, 11:42 AM
Ken Wilber:

"Many psychological symptoms--interior feelings of anxiety, depression, phobia, obsession, compulsion--are the disguised forms of feelings and impulses that, for whatever reason, are too dangerous to the I-space to allow them to arise in their raw and naked forms, and thus they have to be "clothed" in more acceptable fashions. Put bluntly, the psyche lies to itself, becomes false to itself, is no longer being truthful about its own interiors--the price of which is psychological pain and suffering."

From: http://wilber.shambhala.com/html/books/kosmos/excerptC/part2-3.cfm

limelady
13-10-2007, 01:14 PM
The advice you've been given so far is all very good, but sometimes we need a little extra help to get us out of a slump so we can tackle the real issues head on. At times like these, there are some very good mood brighteners that can literally change your brain chemistry for long enough for you to get control again.

St John's Wort helps some, but many others have reported a worsening of symptoms or allergies to this herb, so I usually avoid recommending it willy-nilly. Instead, I advise people take S-Adenosyl methionine (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/S-adenosyl_methionine)(SAMe) or
5-Hydroxytryptophan (http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-HTP) (5-htp)

Both of these natural depression treatments are IMO superior in every way to doctor prescribed depression medications, and work very effectively for the vast majority, without the side-effect of their drug cousins. Within just a few days you'll find you are far more in control of your moods and feeling relaxed again. If one is severely depressed, I would also suggest taking L-tyrosine as well.

The suggestion of a vitamin B-Complex is VERY sound advice, and I would add to that 1000mcg (1mg) 'chewable vitamin B12 and 5mg Folic Acid, as both these B-group vitamins are only included in minimal amounts in tableted formulations, and most brands do not include B12 at all. B12 is crucial for overcoming stress, and many people are very deficient in BOTH of these B nutrients due to our faulty food-chain and chronic 'low-level' life stress.

Once your mood has brightened, then its up to you to do inner-work or change the situations that have lead to your depression.
Good luck! :)

gorgeousbutterfly
13-10-2007, 06:44 PM
Thanks everybody! i will be taking the above advice

:D

Anders Lindman
13-10-2007, 07:58 PM
sometimes we need a little extra help to get us out of a slump so we can tackle the real issues head on.

Good point. When in a deeper state of depression, the mind has often by itself not the capacity for taking itself out of the low psychological state. That would be like saying to a person who has temporary become lame in his or her legs: "Why don't you stand up already!" So in these cases external substances can be useful. At least as a help to the brain and the body in the beginning which the mind is dependent on.

joyful
13-10-2007, 10:28 PM
I find St John's Wort helps. I swear by it actually. Also going for a long bike ride resets my mind and body.

razed1
13-10-2007, 10:39 PM
Working to understand, accept and love yourself :)

the hardest but most rewarding course :cool:

adimon
14-10-2007, 04:12 PM
Butterfly, you live in LA? Have you been to places like Death Valley or Big Sur?

They are both beautiful places. I think Death Valley could cure me of anything.

As for all the above suggestions, I think serpentoffire's is probably the one I'd recommend. :)

sunyatta60
14-10-2007, 04:20 PM
Sex, Running and Bananas :D

de_shit
20-10-2007, 05:32 PM
I used to have a shitty depression that lasted all day for two years. Then I came into possession of Infinite Love, one of Ickes books and it cured me. You should read it, and if it doesn't heal you, read it again :). I related to the stuff that Icke said in the book, so I connect to what he is saying. I am learning so much shit on this forum dude, I'm glad I was "told by Infinite Consciousness/god" to join this forum. Whatever I'm told to do, I do it.

thorleyart
24-10-2007, 10:30 PM
1) Stop putting poisons into your body

Splenda and aspartame are poisons. All soft drinks contain aspartame, if you look, most soft drinks are made by the coca cola company.. Don’t touch them they are dogshit.

Looking in to how you think is a good thing to do too, there are some really good cognitive behavioural therapy techniques which teach you to view and think about situations in life differently, to process them in a healthy way, a lot of depression happens because of negative thinking with can be changed. I had depression really badly as a teenager, (about ten years ago) and had it on and off, for years after, I haven’t really had it so much in the last year or two, occasionally for a short while maybe, but there are so many things that you can do to avoid it and alleviate it when it does come, there's really no need to carry on suffering it. The trick is to find as many things that work for you and keep doing them.

Another thing is how to think about and view yourself, do you view yourself as someone who gets depressed? It’s a simple statement in the mind about yourself, I used to have it 'I am a person who gets depressed' - shift that, completely reverse it, don't let the term depression even enter your mind, go with things like 'I am a healthy, happy person' or 'I can effectively deal with problems I experience, as they arise'

I think depression can arise from a feeling of loneliness or hopelessness too. Try to keep in contact with friends and do things you enjoy. Take control of your life, steer it in ways you want it to go.. Check out www.abraham-hicks.com the law of attraction works, Big time!!

Personally I exercise regularly, I love running, if I don't run for a week or more, I can feel myself getting irritable and moody and eventually worse. I eat healthily and sleep well too. Just some thoughts on the topic…..

2013
24-10-2007, 11:21 PM
Yes exercise and diet are big factors in how the body affects the mind .By maintaining a healthy body it helps to promote a healthy mind .As has already been posted here it then makes it easier to deal with the root cause of the problem .Coming at it from a fresh and focused perspective is beneficial .I was diagnosed manic depressive schizophrenic in my late teens ealry twenties the labels change but symptoms produced by society largely remain the same .Diet and exercise helped me and reading a lot of positive books .The brain sends the depressive chemicals thru thebody so you get to feel this is normal and when you do feel good for a change th body and brain says hey what gives wheres my usual fix .It takes time and i only learnt to overcome the depression thru self analysis .The schizo bit i knew was just accessing other levels of reality so that was never a problem .The self searching to reveal causes once hit upon can then be addressed and released .It may be a bit cliche'd but watch good comedy to make you laugh and lift your mood because it doesnt do to stay in the depression if and when you can avoid it .It's a vicious circle ,part of the reason you have your depression is lack of friendship companionship with people you can connect with .If you can take up a hobby or join a class that would be good art maybe or exercise just to help meet new people but do it for yourself as a means to an end not as a quick fix .The longest journey starts with the first step .Look into the russian scientists work stating that our DNA is a biological internet and responds to language .So positive affirmations can help there reprogramme your thinking .If i find the link t othis i will post it here .Good luck :Dyou are already a gorgeous butterfly so you are used to transformation if you can do it once you can do it again:)

lacey
12-02-2008, 11:15 PM
5htp worked 4 me. Think it's from an African plant-something 2 do with seratonin.
Also, found that it curbs appetite aswell; which could be gud if u overeat when depressed.
Can cause sleepiness though.

cytro
13-02-2008, 12:39 AM
i heard of something dhhp? exerise is not working enough for me. so what else?

do you think my depression can be from a lot of diet soda? it just pops out of nowhere even when i am enjoying life.

thanks


St. John's Wort

Serotonin

adimon
13-02-2008, 05:33 AM
http://www.kokeshnet.com/wordpress/wp-content/forrest-gump-running-beard.jpg

I jus fel' li' run-nin...

madthumbs
13-02-2008, 06:06 AM
We're trained to look for remedy's, solutions, fixes. Why not look for causes?

At this point in the thread, I doubt many people suffering from depression will be reading this.

Based on my personal experience with chronic depression, and countless hours of research, here's what I compiled:

Help for Depression (http://www.opposingdigits.com/forums/viewtopic.php?t=1964)

I no longer suffer from depression, but I do happen to live in a very high stress environment, and am a HSP (http://www.hsperson.com/), and wish I'd never been born (to avoid the long term suffering I've endured).

Nutrition isn't just for physical fitness: it's for mental too!

child of the sun
22-02-2008, 03:11 AM
Don't believe in it

All pain is mental

enlightenme
22-02-2008, 05:48 AM
I am a Bach Practitioner (flower remedies), The depression that you are describing would benefit from a remedy called mustard. You can buy the remedy in any health food shop .. I would recommend the Rescue Remedy also. Take 2 drops on your tongue or into drinks 4 times a day, this should see your sudden bought of depression lifted, take as long as required. If you want to ask any questions ... ask away .....

x

i am actually starting to study Bach Flower. there are many forms of depression and i dont believe that bach flowers will cure all, though will be a huge 'assitance' with most forms. there are many types of flowers so i sort of go against your suggestion stickylolly to take rescue remedy only and for people to go see a practitioner so they can diagnose the emotional imbalance correctly and prescribe the correct combination.

i am also a fan of diet, excersise as well as Vitamin B and St Johns though as per what i said above, there are many forms of depression (and the sorce) so what works for one dosent necessarily work for another.

love to those sufferers and have faith that there is a light.

sunyatta60
28-02-2008, 03:39 PM
Stay away from the booze it is an anti depressant remener it is all in the mind so you can change a thought faster than anything else.
And watch this because if he does not make you laugh then I don't know what will.

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=3892805257653534598

nickdo
08-04-2008, 08:10 AM
I have a friend that suffered from Chronic depression and I cured him in 30mins. It was a miracle. I have the Bob Beck blood zapper which I use for killing viruses and keeping my blood clean simply by zapping. Anyway I strapped the 2 probes on my friends neck and aligned them with Carotid arteries, switched the zapper on for 30 mins literally electrifying all bacteria passing through the artery dying on impact. Well low and behold his depression was gone. We could not believe it. I would suggest to those suffering from depression to study the Bob Beck protocol and invest into his zapper. It's akin to having a second immune system.

kernelpower
08-04-2008, 02:13 PM
Rhodiola Rosea Is Good

krakhead
08-04-2008, 02:52 PM
Here's a post I made on another thread about 5HTP -

Here are some links to some information on 5-Hydroxytryptophan or 5-HTP

It's a precursor to Serotonin so may help some people cope with mild to moderate depression. I know several people who've tried it and it certainly appeared to do the trick for them. But, for balance, I must mention that these people also began exercising more frequently, eating more healthily, one gave up smoking etc. etc. - not what you'd call a good scientific trial set-up!

Have a read and see what you think.......

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/5-HTP

http://www.5-htp.org.uk/

http://www.5htp.com/

http://community.homeandhealthtv.co....91/m/155107092

On this page there's a scoring chart to see how depressed you are. I'd recommend that people give it a try, if you score high - see a Dr!

http://community.homeandhealthtv.co....91/m/155107092

I personally consider occasional bouts of mild to moderate depression should be considered a natural part of being human, but that people should beware these feelings beginning to have a marked negative impact on their day-to-day lives and then seek professional help.

It seems to me that due to today's culture of 'everyone must be rich/good looking/have the right gadgets/lifestyle etc. etc' that people may have set themselves up to feeling depressed because they cannot live up to what is supposedly expected of them.

changingman
08-04-2008, 02:57 PM
i tried st johns wort never again it made me feel 10 times worse i use a oil burner with natural oils like sage ,rosemary ect it works for me

amethyst
08-04-2008, 03:30 PM
Cure for depression?

A little different angle: gratefulness and thankfulness for what you DO have, as opposed to what you don't have.

If you have a roof over your head and food in your stomach,and a bed to sleep in, you have more than most people in the third world have.

Not to minimize real pain and suffering, but when you can be thankful for the little things you Do have, the bigger stuff just seems to lose it's importance........in the big picture of life.

And also:when faced with an obstacle....taking little baby steps forward as opposed to great big steps, makes finding solutions to your problems that much easier to deal with.....in wee little bites as opposed to big chunks.

When you can handle the little bites....you can deal with the bigger stuff....eventually.

erikneo
08-04-2008, 03:41 PM
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=3agIy5L4JMY

isitfortiamat
09-04-2008, 06:33 AM
Depression is directly linked to nutrients missing from your diet and artificial substances that leech these out. Daily exercise-which can seem overwhelming at best when in a low energy/depressed state- REALLY has helped me.In just a short amount of time-if you commit to just walking for 20 minutes everyday-you will see an upswing in a matter of a week or two.Also try limiting white sugar and carbs and sticking with natural fruits,veggies and small amounts of lean protein.Take a daily vitamin and also a good B complex vitamin.You will see increased energy and a more positive outlook. Eliminate artificial sweeteners and soda-drink plain tea of coffee if you must.Lots of filtered/distilled water, also.