What is the catch, Ron Paul?

[gullick]

I can't see how Ron Paul was allowed to get this far.

Is there a way to backtrack his ancestory?

Reckon its a psy-op to make people believe there is no hope if he doesn't get ellected?

I'm just clutching for straws I know.

I don't agree with all of Ron Pauls policies, but he actually stands for freedom and liberty.

Shocking!

Edit: Just a little something (http://fredthompsonforum.com/showthread.php?p=14500)

[razed1]

watch 0:58 - 0:53

Ron Paul give the hand sign for LOVE you ColbRepor FreeMe.TV - YouTube

what do u think of this?? :(

[razed1]

see this is what confuses

[gordonfreeman]

Great, just like the rest of political congress men. They are nothing but puppets to the NWO, but his patriotic campaign for peace might be a lie.

The crowd seems excited to meet him in person.

[razed1]

i think hes wanting to get rid of the fed reseve, and irs, so thats a good thing, and thatll really get them outta the rothschilds grip

but he did do it, and this happend a LOOONG time ago and i dont recall if I heard Alex Jones bring it up, or any acknowledgment


and you can say this does fit into the ritual 'contract' the lummies have with their "macrobes" power source, the contract by putting the truth out there in plain sight


i just dont knwo waht to think, i really hope someone can shed some light into and follow up of this...:

:confused:

[Anders Lindman]

One guess, this is just my speculation, is that Ron Paul represents power interests opposed to the current power elite. It could also be the current power elite playing some tricky games controlling all sides. Or Ron Paul actually represents a pure grassroot effect.

In either case, I am curious about the possibility of changing the fractional reserve banking system. Maybe it can be changed without having to change the monetary and financial infrastructures such as central banks, private banks, stock markets, currency markets and other financial markets. To only change how money is related to value, not to change how the markets work today. Of course, changing the root of money will have a fundamental impact on the entire economy, but by not having to change the financial infrastructure, the transition would be smooth and stable. I hope. :confused:

[Anders Lindman]

Here is an interesting comment:

"The corporate media will not give Ron Paul any Exposure. Because, NBC is owned by GE. GE is one of the world's largest war-makers. They make things that go boom. They make $Billions on war. A Ron Paul administration would be bad for business. CNN is owned by AOL. Majority share holder is Saudi Royal Talal who is also partners with GHWBush in The Carlyle Group. Another major warmaker. And on and on. You get the picture. This is why they are doing a Media Blackout on him. Because they don't WANT YOU TO KNOW THE TRUTH!!!!!"

From: http://talkback.zdnet.com/5208-11422-0.html?forumID=1&threadID=39354&messageID=723784&start=0

[Anders Lindman]

Here's another sinister speculation: General Electric is promoting Ron Paul to take over the banksters' power. GE may profit from war, but they are probably more into energy markets. By changing the Fed's fractional reserve banking system, General Electric can pull the rug from under the banksters and set up a new monetary system tailormade for GE who can use that as a beachhead from which to start its global crusade for world domination. :D

[synak]

I can't see how Ron Paul was allowed to get this far.

Is there a way to backtrack his ancestory?

Reckon its a psy-op to make people believe there is no hope if he doesn't get ellected?

I'm just clutching for straws I know.

I don't agree with all of Ron Pauls policies, but he actually stands for freedom and liberty.

Shocking!
[/URL]

One of the methods they routinely use to control our minds involves having the people appear to make a free decision while actually being made to select the item that is desired. Essentially this relies on controlling the options of the subject so that only one decision, the one desired, is possible, while at the same time creating the illusion that the subject is free to choose as he or she pleases. The NWO play all sides of the field whenever they engage in this tactic. The prime example of course can be found in 'politics' where the NWO pretends to oppose one another as republicans and democrats when in fact they are both the same group. By leading is to rely on these preconceived choices they are simultaneously distracting us from seeking the truth somewhere else.

[freedomnonfighter]

Regardless of whether Ron Paul this or Ron Paul that, it is a distraction from knowing oneself - as that is the only thing that matters.

The External = Reflection

"Combing the mirror" ;)



"Things don't change, we do."

[h1s_l0rdsh1p]

Regardless of whether Ron Paul this or Ron Paul that, it is a distraction from knowing oneself - as that is the only thing that matters.

The External = Reflection

"Combing the mirror" ;)



"Things don't change, we do."

Yeah, you're right. But you can't really know yourself if you are imprisoned for walking down the street in the wrong coloured clothes.

Remember:

Citizen A's must wear Red monday through Friday, and green on weekends.

Citizen B's must wear Grey mond through saturday, and navy blue on sunday

Citizen C's must atleast cover their "no-no spots" with any of the rags they find.

This is a message from your local Big Brother.

[albie]

Sigh.

This shows how you guys can't differentiate real evidence from incident.

[klinker]

Ron Paul is a chosen puppet no different to any other.

[anoninnyc]

Ron Paul is a chosen puppet no different to any other.

i am afraid that you are right. i hope you are wrong.

[freespark]

He's not pulling 'the sign'....pause it and look closer. His thumb is outstretched. The 'sign' has no thumb.

[jologriffiths]

watch 0:58 - 0:53

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=D5HWR8NdIoM

what do u think of this?? :(

Yes its confusing and disappointing, but essential to see, thanks for posting!
It indicates that all of what we see and hear on controlled mainstream radio & TV, is constructed and we are being well played.
Ron Paul is a polititician, and would never have been allowed to rise to this level without the help of the media and American Government.
From what I can gather to fulfil 'their prophesy' a new banking system has to come into being as part of the NWO, we will see these apparent 'saviours' that will seduce the desperate people with seemingly nowhere to turn.
Ron Paul could be perfectly genuine in his desire for justice regarding the corrupt Federal Reserve, it is easy to get fired up when we look at the blatant theft of the peoples wealth, but we have to look further on at what happens next regarding the control of money.
I don't think that a spiritually well informed man would use those hand signals (if he does?) if he knew what club they currently refer to.
if he's not fully conscious and aware of what we are up against he is not going to be able to guide effectively.

I've just watched this vid on Davids latest headlines!


The Ring of Power on redicecreations.com

its very long... but very useful!:)

ONE LOVE

[chris]

lol, I remember on the old board there was a thread with David Icke doing the exact same thing...It's just a stupid hand signal, I give it to people and it doesn't mean jack shit. Just conspiracy nonsense.

[1 2 free]

He's not pulling 'the sign'....pause it and look closer. His thumb is outstretched. The 'sign' has no thumb.

It's 'I Love You' in sign language.

http://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/topics/i_love_you.htm

[chris]

It's 'I Love You' in sign language.

http://www.lifeprint.com/asl101/topics/i_love_you.htm

Your avatar is pulling it you disinfo satanic troll! You must be getting £30 per hour to spout this rubbish. Now I'll vanquish thee by pretending you don't exist in my 5 sense reality. Now I feel better, it's so good to be free.

[freespark]

Guys there has got to come a point where common sense prevails. Use it.

[1 2 free]

Your avatar is pulling it you disinfo satanic troll! You must be getting £30 per hour to spout this rubbish. Now I'll vanquish thee by pretending you don't exist in my 5 sense reality. Now I feel better, it's so good to be free.


I get £7.85 an hour. :o If you know who pays trolls £30 an hour let me know. I'd troll the O'Reilly forums for that money.

[synergy777]

http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/121007Smearing.htm

The International Murdoch Media Smearing Of Ron Paul Begins Darryl Mason
YOUR NEW REALITY
Friday October 12, 2007



The Rupert Murdoch media in the United States mostly pretends Ron Paul doesn't exist, or simply doesn't matter. As hard a myth that is to maintain, Murdoch is clearly backing Giuliani and Billary and no-one else for the White House in 2008. Like most American elites, Murdoch doesn't care if it's Billary or Giuliani, just as long as it isn't Ron Paul in the White House come 2008.

In Australia, now that Ron Paul's infamy is spreading fast, and his reputation as one of the more credible and interesting Republican candidates is taking root, the Murdoch media has decided to kill off the story of a real presidential underdog before it excites too many journalists down under.

The first shot from Murdoch's Australian media claims that Ron Paul's impressive dominance of internet campaigning is merely the result of a "fake online campaign."

Wait. Here's the full headlines from news.com.au :

Republican Ron Paul In Possible 'Fake Online Campaign'

In the story, journalist Mark Schliebs makes a fistful of accusations of online fraud, based on little more than his own opinion and the strategic use of words like 'possible' and 'may'. If the headline wasn't bad enough, check out the opening paragraph :


A candidate for the US presidency is being buoyed by a massive online campaign that may be a fake grassroots movement organised by party staff.
It gets worse, and far more dubious :

YouTube footage of Texan Republican Congressman Ron Paul, whose candidacy has been overshadowed in the media by competitors Rudy Giuliani, Fred Thompson and John McCain, has been viewed by tens of thousands of people in the last week.

As of 11am (AEST) today, a compilation of different clips of Dr Paul was the “Top Rated” video of the past 24 hours.

The clip had been viewed nearly 60,000 times since it was uploaded yesterday.

But it was not the only clip of the Congressman receiving kudos from Youtube users, with another 10 videos appearing in today’s list of the site’s 100 "Top Rated" recordings.

Of the 11 featured clips of Dr Paul, only one user uploaded more than one of them in the last 24 hours.

Just one of the 11 clips in the list was actually featured in today's top 100 "Most Viewed" videos.

Head of Flinders University’s Department of American Studies Don De Bats told NEWS.com.au that it “sounded like” an astroturfing campaign.

Astroturfing is the term used to describe a fake grassroots campaign, where members of an organisation create the illusion that “ordinary people” are behind the movement.

Professor De Bats said that for a relatively unknown candidate like Dr Paul to have so much prominence online was suspicious.

“I would not put any credibility on those results,” Prof De Bats said.

“I find it terrifically surprising and unlikely (that Dr Paul would attract that level of response).”

Earlier this week, the Republican's campaign team issued a press release that said: “Dr Paul's video channel has been viewed 4.5 million times by supporters who embrace his message of freedom and limited government, making him one of the most-watched presidential candidates in internet history.”

Those figures were only based on clips uploaded by one user, RonPaul2008dotcom, who didn’t have any clips in today’s 100 Top Rated list.

What the hell is this guy talking about? Can anyone make sense of this nonsense? The RonPaul2008 channel is an election channel, which every presidential wannabe who is seriously pursuing an online audience also has, including Billary, Giuliani and Barack Obama.

It's an online campaign, so of course Ron Paul supporters or Ron Paul's own office is going to post clips, just as the teams behind Giuliani, Billary and Obama are now also doing.

Similar claims of 'astroturfing' have been made about Ron Paul's extraordinary showing in online polls after Republican debates, where he often heartily trounces higher profile candidates like Rudolph Giuliani. Despite the fact that most major media organisations only allow one vote from each IP address for such polls, the smear campaign continues to claim that Ron Paul staffers, and a small pool of supporters, are stacking the polls.

So when there is clear evidence that Ron Paul is making a deep impression with hundreds of thousands of Americans online, via impressive viewing numbers for videos on YouTube, a Murdoch journo tries to claim that this is merely yet another example of astroturfing?

There's many reasons why it is in the interest of the 'establishment' media to try and discredit Ron Paul every chance they get. Here's one reason why - Ron Paul talks like this about the international Murdoch media campaign to ramp up support for a War On Iran:

"Why don't we just open up the Constitution and read it? You're not allowed to go to war without a declaration of war. Now, as far as fleeting enemies goes, yes-- if there's an imminent attack on us. We've never had that happen to us in 220 years. The idea that Iran could pose an imminent attack on the United States is preposterous. There's no way."

"This is just war propaganda preparing this nation to go to war and spread this war not only into Iraq but into Iran unconstitutionally. It is a road to disaster for us as a nation. It is the road to our financial disaster if we don't read the Constitution once in a while."

No wonder they want to shut him up, and shut him down.


What the Murdoch media journo also failed to point out is how miserable the YouTube viewing numbers, and online poll results, are for presidential wannabes like Giuliani, who is supposed to be the chief Republican contender for the White House, and is "electrifying" the Republican heartland, if you believe what you hear on Fox News.

Tens of millions of Americans spend more than three or four hours online every day, but how many of them are drawn to check out Giuliani videos on YouTube? Not many. This Giuliani YouTube video, where he espouses on one of his key platforms, attracted a measly 370 viewings after a week. The clips where Giuliani scores tens of thousands, or hundreds of thousands of viewings, are the ones where he and Ron Paul are going at each other during Republican debates.

Here's Giuliani on free trade (94 viewings), on combating internet predators (113 viewings), and on energy independence for the US (120 viewings) - at the time of this blog posting.

But when an anti-war Republican, who personifies the core values of real American conservatism, and who 'courageously speaks the truth', finds a massive online audience who flock to each new video in their hundreds of thousands, it's all supposed to be fake?

If Ron Paul supporters are so easily stacking YouTube viewing numbers, and online polls, then why aren't Giuliani supporters doing the same?

The Australian Murdoch media story on Ron Paul is a beat-up, hack work, nasty and vindictive and a standard example of the kind of insidious propaganda that gets flung at anyone who hits the American heartland talking of changing the status quo of an American in deep, deep trouble.

The Murdoch journalist also failed to mention the biggest Ron Paul story of the last few weeks - the fact that he has managed to raise $5 million in only a few months, with the vast majority of donations coming in small amounts from tens of thousands of supporters, as opposed to Giuliani who gets a handful of checks worth hundreds of thousands of dollars each instead.

The 'Fake Online Campaign' story has gone up on News Limited's central media website for Australia, and it is likely to filter out into city newspapers across the country tomorrow, and also become fodder for talk back radio. Remember that Rupert Murdoch controls 70% of all Australian newspapers. That's some distribution system for propaganda like the Schliebs story.

The lies propagated by Mark Schliebs will stick, and the rest of the Australian media will follow the Murdoch media line : that Ron Paul's remarkable grassroots support base is nothing more than a fake campaign, organised by his staffers, instead of a revolutionary change to the way Americans elect their presidents, or at least hear what they have to say and what they stand for.

Another voice of rational American politics, which could help change the blood-stained international reputation of the United States, has been maligned, and discredited in Australia today.

If more Australians, Europeans, Asians and Russians heard what Ron Paul had to say, the horrific international poll results showing anti-American dissent is soaring across the world might level off a bit.

This Ron Paul video (and remember this is a video clip about politics, not Paris Hilton nude or skateboarding dogs) has been viewed an extraordinary 472,000 times.

Astroturfing? They wish.

[freespark]

It fucking makes me sick. Dirty hardball....scumbags the lot of them. Fucking scumbags. :mad:

That Gulianni i just wanna smash his fucking face in. Jeesus it makes me mad.

[synergy777]

yep, but it shows ron paul, and us his supporters are making them a little bit anxious. ron paul is on record stating the plans for a world government/dollar collapse.

when a republican speaks of these matters, i don't care who you are, but you damn well listen.

everybody add ron paul to your myspace/facebook websites etc.

power to the people!

onelove/peace

[synak]

Regardless of whether Ron Paul this or Ron Paul that, it is a distraction from knowing oneself - as that is the only thing that matters.[/i]

True. Though one must also know thy enemy.

[thetonic]

I am tired of listening to naysayers," he might be illuminati, look at this hand signal", bla bla bla... And "Oh i like Ron Paul, but hes never gonna win" :mad: THAT IS NOT HOW PEOPLE WIN ELECTIONS PERIOD... YOU CANNOT LIVE IN FEAR OR DOUBT! OR IT WILL MANIFEST!

WE HAVE GOT TO BRING THE MASSES TO THE CLICKING POINT OF CONSCIOUSNESS AND THIS ELECTION WILL FALL LIKE A SET OF DOMINOES , AND RON PAUL WILL BE OUR NEXT PRESIDENT!

Look at the mans voting record for the last 10 years...If he is illuminati , well then he is totally out of step with what they want...

Just like RP says - This isnt just about an election, this is about a conscious movement to restore values that people hold dear, and making this country great again.

SO STOP YOUR BITCHING AND WHINING AND , AND PUT GOOD ENERGY TOWARDS THIS MOVEMENT!

[freedomnonfighter]

True. Though one must also know thy enemy.

There are no enemies - unless of course you create an enemy within yourself, then you'll perceive an enemy 'out there'

[joss classey]

Yeah!

[supertzar]

I'm on board.

I can clearly see a reality in which Ron Paul is the winner.

[chris]

I am tired of listening to naysayers," he might be illuminati, look at this hand signal", bla bla bla... And "Oh i like Ron Paul, but hes never gonna win" :mad: THAT IS NOT HOW PEOPLE WIN ELECTIONS PERIOD... YOU CANNOT LIVE IN FEAR OR DOUBT! OR IT WILL MANIFEST!


Man these people piss me off so much...The worst are those talking about how they are above it because they are living out of the 5 sense reality yet they are probably hooked on MSG and coffee...

If anyone is from America, Ron Paul is going for 12 Million this quarter, if he can make that then he will have to receive the nomination because...

McCains down 55% this quarter
Gulliani is down 40%+ this quarter
Thompson is down 40+ this quarter
Romney is down 27% this quarter (and 55% of his donations are from his own pocket)...

Ron Pauls donations have doubled for the last two quarters each time and this time the staff are pushing for over 12 million to be raised in three months, this will absolutley overshadow all the other candidates and shock the GOP. We really need to be doing all we can to get him the nomination because there will be no other chance like this EVER! The average donation has been $40 to his campaign in the last quarter and everyone in the US can easily manage that. I'd rather people in the know at least double this as they know what's really on the line as people out of touch see how good he is yet they don't really understand the bigger picture.

[supertzar]

I got to see him speak on Tuesday here in Ann Arbor. It was a healthy crowd in more ways than one. No suprises from Dr. Paul, just solid rhetoric that spoke to the people.

[supertzar]

Why was the "Focus on Ron Paul Winning" thread Frankensteined onto this thread? :confused:

[chris]

Why was the "Focus on Ron Paul Winning" thread Frankensteined onto this thread? :confused:

That's what I was wondering, TheTonics post was the best post I've seen in a long time...Deserves to have it's own thread at least.

[rossus]

That's what I was wondering, TheTonics post was the best post I've seen in a long time...Deserves to have it's own thread at least.
i agree, it should not be moved into this thread.
bad move from the administrator!

[Anders Lindman]

Why was the "Focus on Ron Paul Winning" thread Frankensteined onto this thread? :confused:

I didn't know it was possible to frankenstein threads. :eek: That was a new word for me, 'frankensteined'. I must remember that. Could come in handy. :D

[thetonic]

WTF just happend?... Sometimes i really wonder about the mods and goals of David icke forum:confused:....

Taking a positive vibe thread and shoving it under a rock eh?

[thetonic]

Actually i would like an explanation of why this just happend , as my thread had nothing to do with "why is ron paul still in the race thread?" in fact it was meant to be the exact opposite of this thread

Im waiting...:confused:

[jologriffiths]

Here's another sinister speculation: General Electric is promoting Ron Paul to take over the banksters' power. GE may profit from war, but they are probably more into energy markets. By changing the Fed's fractional reserve banking system, General Electric can pull the rug from under the banksters and set up a new monetary system tailormade for GE who can use that as a beachhead from which to start its global crusade for world domination. :D

This thread has turned into a hybrid!
Which is not a problem as the above speculation I think is a very valid one, considering that the NWO are and will be looking for their peacekeeping representatives to pave the way for them to control all: One World Bank, Army and Leader.
The Illuminati are obsessed with prophesy, and I believe it is the Bible prophesy that is relevant here...surprise surprise!
Written by Hebrews 'The Chosen Ones'.

They will have to convince us to submit to a NWO under the guise of an convincingly good man/woman
Ron Paul looks and sounds like a good guy, I believe him! especially in these very desperate times, but don't they all look good at first?
I was taken in by Tony Blair once upon a time, more fool me!:(
Mind control of the Polititians is paramount, its what the ringmasters do!

Don't believe for one moment that the leading families don't have a very tight grip on your reality! and Ron Pauls for that matter.
Problem, Reaction, Solution!

I really wish he were the one to take America into a positive future, but you have to be aware of the controllers tactics.

For me politics is useless until all the relevent families have been exposed and removed from all positions of power: banksters, media moguls, aristocracy and all current polititians etc.
We have to figure out how to do this...
Until then I wouldn't trust them as far as I could throw 'em


has anyone else watched Ring of Power redicecreations.com? ;)

ONE LOVE

[Anders Lindman]

Don't believe for one moment that the leading families don't have a very tight grip on your reality! and Ron Pauls for that matter.
Problem, Reaction, Solution!


I suspect that some big powers are behind Ron Paul. I picked GE as one possible candidate. The Ron Paul campaign is a new kind of campaign. Could be a pure grassroot effect, or promoted by someone like GE, or promoted by the elite families. I'm not sure yet.