View Full Version : The coming GOLD RUSH.
tintin
11-10-2007, 09:49 PM
Yesterday we saw a HUGE headline
in a freely distributed paper in Holland.
(Very widely distributed)
THE GOLD RUSH!
Supposedly hat to do with mega jackpot in the
lottery. But the secret mesage is clear.
We will enter a real GOLD RUSH phase now.
that means an EXPLODING GOLD PRICE.
Had a big thread on the old forum about
all the secret messages that pointed to that.
And now, about a year later, we are thirty percent higher.
But from now on we will enter the ACCELERATION Phase.
That means prices will go through the roof.
We are currently at 746 dollars, but you will see
it go to THOUSANDS of dollars per troy ounce.
But just go to Wiki and you will see the message.
TROY ounce gold. That originates from the city of TROYES
in france.
So we go to the TROYES page on wiki.
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/c/ce/A_street_in_Troyes_France.jpg
This is the picture you see.
WIKI is an real "message" site.
See those GOLDEN letters on the right?
ECU D'OR
The ECU and GOLD, Or is Gold in french.
http://www.joostdevries.com/pictures/te%20koop/1990v%202%205ecu.jpg
The ECU is the EUROPEAN CURRENCY UNIT.
Was the predecessor of the EURO.
synergy777
11-10-2007, 09:56 PM
with freefall of the dollar, to accomodate the arrival of the amero, gold is going to be a very safe best to hedge against dollar devaluation. also the euro is going to grow stronger. i have moved everything into gold since last year and the euro 2 weeks ago.
tintin
11-10-2007, 10:08 PM
with freefall of the dollar, to accomodate the arrival of the amero, gold is going to be a very safe best to hedge against dollar devaluation. also the euro is going to grow stronger. i have moved everything into gold since last year and the euro 2 weeks ago.
Yes, the freefall of the dollar is the key.
I think SILVER will do even better as that is
a very small market.
Once you have real demand for silver then it's of to the
races.
Silver is often called poor man's Gold.
Last SILVER rush was with the Hunt Brothers i believe.
Silver went to 50 dollars, and is now trading at 13.7 dollars.
So has a lot of potential IMO.
synergy777
11-10-2007, 10:15 PM
most commodities will go up. as devaluation of the dollar means you need more dollars to buy the same quanitity due to their lower value/devaluation of the dollar, inflation, or hyper inflation is the result of this.
how do you control inflation, by increasing interest rates, which they can't as it would cripple the economy, and the sub prime fallout. so they are in a catch 22 situation.
tintin
11-10-2007, 10:35 PM
most commodities will go up. as devaluation of the dollar means you need more dollars to buy the same quanitity due to their lower value/devaluation of the dollar, inflation, or hyper inflation is the result of this.
how do you control inflation, by increasing interest rates, which they can't as it would cripple the economy, and the sub prime fallout. so they are in a catch 22 situation.
Catch 22, exactly.
They will chose for the easy option, lowering the rates,
sacrificing the dollar.
synergy777
11-10-2007, 10:39 PM
not only that, by causing it to go on longer, they make sure the fallout is deeper, as they need a slow, long crash, to wipe everyone out. the banks will not lose, they will buy the property back up at low prices, or get free when the buyer defaults. as they own the houses when the mortgage defaults. the banks never lose.
tintin
11-10-2007, 10:43 PM
not only that, by causing it to go on longer, they make sure the fallout is deeper, as they need a slow, long crash, to wipe everyone out. the banks will not lose, they will buy the property back up at low prices, or get free when the buyer defaults. as they own the houses when the mortgage defaults. the banks never lose.
The Banks....
Isn't it ironic that when an individual is a bit behind
with payments he will be punished immediately, but when
the banks lose billions the central banks step in....
What a world we live in...
carlg1212
11-10-2007, 10:45 PM
Bring back the gold standard.
Anders Lindman
11-10-2007, 10:55 PM
Bring back the gold standard.
There is a grave danger in that. It's very easy to corner the market when the currency is based solely on gold. Those who get control over most gold will control the currency. A better method would be to base the currency on a portfolio of several valuable things, such as gold, silver, oil, cotton, corn, real estate and company shares and so on.
synergy777
11-10-2007, 10:57 PM
tintin, the central banks, are the lender of last resort for the banks. if it wasn't for them, we would be in full crash already, they switched the life support on. when the central banks have had enough, its over.
this is why when the central banks came in, those in the know, knew it was the time to to have one last bit of fun/rally (which we are now in), soon the market will turn. what we are seeing now is those with dollar reserves cashing in, while their dollars are still worth something. hence the exploson in foreign companies buying up american/english companies, they are spending their reserves, china gets 40bn in reserves every month from the usa !
why are american/usa companies pulling out of mergers, whilst foreign companies are buying up? look at the investments into arabia, russia, china, india, brazil & australia, everyone is repostioning.
see it takes time, months to repostion. even the last 4/5 interest rate hikes in the uk wiill soon factor in. it takes 8 to 12 mths for a montly rise to factor in. we have had many, the first one has not even set in.
synergy777
11-10-2007, 11:01 PM
http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=7322
The World According to… Lynn Forester de Rothschild
Lloyd Grove – Cond’e Nast Portfolio.com October 5, 2007
The American entrepreneur —and friend of the Clintons and the Blairs — talks about India, telecom, Conrad Black, and her marriage to Sir Evelyn Rothschild
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601039&sid=aaoSD9kt9YJE&refer=home
Smart Money in India Rides on Small Companies: Andy Mukherjee
http://www.bloomberg.com/apps/news?pid=20601109&sid=a0KNVHzhOCZ8&refer=exclusive
Treasuries Fueled by Petrodollars From Mideast Funds
synergy777
11-10-2007, 11:09 PM
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article2414.html
Act Now to Invest in Booming Austrailia Before the Dollars Winter of Discontent
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/Article2401.html
Gold Stocks to Soar as Credit Crisis Turns Into Currency Crisis
http://online.wsj.com/public/us?
http://www.forbes.com/
http://agorafinancial.com/index.php
http://www.bullnotbull.com/bull/
http://www.financialsense.com/index.html
http://www.dailyreckoning.com/
http://www.thestreet.com/
http://www.moneycontrol.com/
http://www.247wallst.com/
http://www.marketoracle.co.uk/
http://www.undollars.com/index.html
http://onlinejournal.com/artman/publish/article_2401.shtml
http://www.tyche-group.com/en/index.php
http://www.moneycontrol.com/india/news/fii-view/asian-economies-to-replace-world-super-powers-tyche-grp/16/25/306697
Martin Hennecke, Senior Manager, Tyche Group says the US economy and economies in Europe are in dire straits and will definitely get worse but it doesn't mean that the markets will fall.
He further adds that there are still opportunities in the Asian markets and having some exposure to equities in Asia is a good hedging. "Long-term Asian economies will be replacing the other world super powers." said Hennecke.
this guy is one of the best imho, tells it the way it is, uses economic fundamentals not cooked up fed stats. appears on bloomberg tv.
synergy777
11-10-2007, 11:12 PM
http://news.moneycontrol.com/india/news/fii-view/see-signs-great-depression-ustyche-group/18/00/294798
See signs of a great depression in US: Tyche Group
http://news.moneycontrol.com/india/news/fii-view/bullish-precious-metalstyche-group/00/59/298372
Bullish on precious metals: Tyche Group
Martin Hennecke, Senior Manager at Tyche Group believes sub-prime is not the only issue and that debt in many countries is out of control. He remains bullish on precious metals
moneycontrol is an indian finance site, see the difference in news they get and we get.
anoninnyc
11-10-2007, 11:14 PM
hey synergy. i have a little bit of money that i need to invest. what are your thoughts of gold v. silver. v. commodities fund v. euros v. asian fund?
synergy777
11-10-2007, 11:20 PM
being in the states, i would opt for metals, commodities or euro. stay away from the dollar, to try to diversify as much as possible.
what options do you have. the gold market, be sure of what you are getting and govt legislation. some cases the govt can seize your gold, if they want to. imho, the euro is the safest bet, as its the nwo pet project, so they will look after it. the amero will come in, once the american union gets under way.
the sites i have posted are mostly america based, the oracle, financial sense, the daily reckoning, agora are great in my eyes. watch bloomberg aswell, but remember its very polished and try's to keep up market sentiment, they use many financial code words, so be careful. also its what made mayor bloomberg his billions, lol
anoninnyc
11-10-2007, 11:25 PM
yeah, well obviously i will stay away from the dollar. as for the daily reckoning, not such a fan. so many of these financial websites are funded by advertisers or special interests, in fact all of them probably. i read everything from mainstream stuff like the wall st. journal and morningstar.com to more out there stuff like the daily reckoning. take it all w a grain of salt and make my own opinion.
synergy777
11-10-2007, 11:31 PM
you have to pay for good info/advice, market eonomics. they know they are good, make huge gains, returns, so they will charge for it. look at their stock picks, you can't argue with those returns.
i don't know if there any funds that specialise in commodities in the usa market, although i guess there should be. the only company that makes "consistently" great gains is goldman sachs/citibank, they are the best.
steevo
11-10-2007, 11:32 PM
There is a grave danger in that. It's very easy to corner the market when the currency is based solely on gold. Those who get control over most gold will control the currency. A better method would be to base the currency on a portfolio of several valuable things, such as gold, silver, oil, cotton, corn, real estate and company shares and so on.
I agree with you Anders about this...to an extent :-
But, can anyone please explain to me why gold is "valuable"? Why do people perceive it as valuable ? You can't eat gold. So what is it good for ? Please explain cos this has always confused me :confused:
Yeah they may bring back the gold standard because they hold all the gold already and therefore they will then be able to buy anything that they want such as grain, land, other commodities that are of REAL use and REAL value.
Again, I ask someone to explain, why GOLD ? Why not wood, potatoes, rice, or dog shit or anything else ? Well To be honest, I probably already know the answer :( I think it's cos the Illuminati wanted to create a system where we are all slaves and they TELL US gold is valuable when it isnt really and if we want to live happily we need it to buy food/possessions. And the bad thing is, if we dont agree with the system we starve cos there is no food for us in the meadows cos the people with the gold own it.
Go on then, someone explain it to me please :D
synergy777
11-10-2007, 11:41 PM
gold is a commodity used in many industrial applications not just jewellery. its purity/scarcity and many uses make it valuable.
steevo
12-10-2007, 12:17 AM
gold is a commodity used in many industrial applications not just jewellery. its purity/scarcity and many uses make it valuable.
That's very true and as far as I can remember, from doing chemistry at school, it is the least reactive (most stable) metals (or at least one of the most stable) so that makes it very useful, but lets face it, it just sits in a safe doing nothing most of the time, maybe i am wrong about that i dont know.
Gold has always (according to "history") been used as the "currency" so when the US dollar etc goes bust, Gold is the obvious thing. So yes, it would appear that gold is the stuff to invest in, unless that is misinformation, cos create a rumour and the value of that commodity goes up/down. But like I say gold has always been the "currency" so it would appear to be the safe investment.
synergy777
12-10-2007, 12:32 AM
silver, platinium, silicon, hey even wheat.
things are the new thing in wealth, lol
Anders Lindman
12-10-2007, 04:48 AM
That's very true and as far as I can remember, from doing chemistry at school, it is the least reactive (most stable) metals (or at least one of the most stable) so that makes it very useful, but lets face it, it just sits in a safe doing nothing most of the time, maybe i am wrong about that i dont know.
Gold has always (according to "history") been used as the "currency" so when the US dollar etc goes bust, Gold is the obvious thing. So yes, it would appear that gold is the stuff to invest in, unless that is misinformation, cos create a rumour and the value of that commodity goes up/down. But like I say gold has always been the "currency" so it would appear to be the safe investment.
The history of the gold price is interesting. How much has it been based on actual useful value and how much of it has been psychology? I'm not against gambling, that's entertainment, but a rigged gold price sounds pretty awful.
I don't think the leading traders gamble. More likely they manipulate the price of gold, oil, stock market shares etc. That's a pretty shitty casino.
And even 'serious' companies fool the public many times. I read in a Swedish newspaper that the so-called eco and ethic funds were almost exactly the same as ordinary funds, but that the financial companies charged a much bigger fee for the funds they have smacked the label 'green', 'eco' or 'ethic' on. Talk about greed. :D
synergy777
12-10-2007, 03:30 PM
http://prisonplanet.com/articles/october2007/111007_b_gold.htm
Gold price rockets to 27-year high, platinum nears record
AFP
Thursday, October 11, 2007
The price of gold soared Thursday to the highest level since 1980 on the back of the weak US dollar, while platinum neared a record level on fresh supply woes, analysts said.
Gold prices leapt as high as 748.10 dollars per ounce on the London Bullion Market.
Platinum, meanwhile, hit 1,399.25 dollars an ounce on the London Platinum and Palladium Market. That was close to its record high 1,402.50 dollars hit in November 2006.
The high points came as the European single currency bounced back above 1.42 dollars, rising close to its record high 1.4283 dollars that was struck on October 1.
Gold tends to rise when the US unit weakens because it makes commodities that are priced in dollars cheaper for buyers using stronger currencies, analysts say.
"Gold prices strengthened again as US dollar weakness underpinned solid gains," noted analysts at Barclays Capital.
The precious metal is also supported by strong crude oil prices, which in turn spark inflationary concerns. However, gold is regarded as a safe bet in times of rising inflation.
Platinum, already beset with tight supplies, took another hit on Thursday from fresh concerns in South Africa.
"The rise in (platinum) prices has been supported by concerns over supply following news of electrical power shortages in South Africa -- the world's largest producer of platinum," added Barclays Capital analysts.
"The power supply to smelters owned by Anglo Platinum was disrupted and reignited fears that the power situation could worsen over the next few years."
steevo
12-10-2007, 06:45 PM
There was that video that David Icke put in his "Latest Headlines" about a month ago which advised us to buy gold because of the impending breakdown of the banks and the economy.
To be quite honest i had been considering buying gold over the last couple of years but I never looked into it. Synergy, if you have time, could you please give me some very quick advice on the very first steps on how to do it, i mean is it from the stock market or something ?
It may sound like I have loads of money but I have virtually none but I know people who I want to advise on the subject, i advised them to buy gold at least a year ago cos I told them the banks would go bust. Now that the Northern rock thing has happened maybe they will listen but I doubt it.
synergy777
12-10-2007, 06:51 PM
give me a couple of days, as the weekend is here, full of friends, beer and cheer.
will hook it up no probz bro.
anoninnyc
12-10-2007, 06:54 PM
couldn't decide, so put half into a commodities fund and half into a precious metals fund. commodities are a good hedge against inflation and the deterioration of the us dollar.
synergy777
12-10-2007, 06:57 PM
what company, a good bet, diversified/spreading risk and in growth areas.
anoninnyc
12-10-2007, 07:04 PM
what company, a good bet, diversified/spreading risk and in growth areas.
Franklin Gold and Precious Metals
Oppenheimer Commodity Strategy Total Return
Also have a diversified portfolio with exposure to asian markets,
GLD (gold), euros, and i am a big believer in investing in water companies (distillation, purification strategies, etc.) also have some inflation protected bonds (TIPS) and your standard mutual funds (i like Vanguard as they have low fees).
steevo
12-10-2007, 07:11 PM
give me a couple of days, as the weekend is here, full of friends, beer and cheer.
will hook it up no probz bro.
There is no rush Synergy. It's not urgent at all. Cheers!
punjabibeard
12-10-2007, 07:19 PM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.
synergy777
12-10-2007, 07:25 PM
anon the franklin seems good, a wide range of miners etc. the oppenehimer, at 17%ytd looks ok aswell. were they through a tied or independent financial advisor.
anoninnyc
12-10-2007, 07:39 PM
anon the franklin seems good, a wide range of miners etc. the oppenehimer, at 17%ytd looks ok aswell. were they through a tied or independent financial advisor.
independent, never would ever used a tied financial advisor. problem with commodities funds in general is that the management fees (not from my financial consultant, but from the actual fund) are a touch higher than i would like. i do some of my investing through a financial consultant that i really like and then a large portion of it through e-trade. my financial consultant provides good services and i have a very fair fee arrangement with him. for the most part i never recommend using a financial advisor though- many can kill you in fees and provide very little value added.
synergy777
12-10-2007, 09:20 PM
good stuff sis, you have you head screwed on, its refreshing.