Shining Ones by Philip Gardiner

[haukipesukone]

Has anyone heard about this book or read it? Do you know what it says, what are the "shining ones"? Just some secret cult of people or some sort of light beings? Seems interesting at least.


The Shining Ones: The World's Most Powerful Secret Society: Amazon.co.uk: Philip Gardiner, Suzanne J Barbieri, John Gardiner: 9781904126003: Books@@AMEPARAM@@http://ecx.images-amazon.com/images/I/41KFSR76DJL.@@AMEPARAM@@41KFSR76DJL

[lightgiver]

Hmm interesting,

Review

"Just when you thought you had heard the latest conspiracy theory, another one crops up. Or at least that's what I thought until I read the amazing new book by Philip Gardiner called The Shining Ones. Thoroughly expecting to be greeted by a barrage of government hating men in black UFO nonsense I was remarkably surprised. Not only is this a truly massive project of historical research it is also a world changing and insightful work from a relatively unknown author. The book stakes it's claim on having uncovered the world's most powerful and ancient secret society. It is with huge claims like this that most of us, who have some knowledge of the conspiracy world, get that familiar sinking feeling. Surely, if the secret was so great and those in power so powerful, then such secrets would not be allowed to be printed. That is where I came across my first problem. This book has been published by a brand new publishing company, strategically set up to print books that other publishing companies are too scared to publish. Not only that the author himself is a co-founder and director of the publishing company. Immediate respect, putting his money where his mouth is. So what about the book? Does it stand up to it's claim? In a word, and a surprising one, yes! It may start out a little slow, it may go on about backing up it's claim with science and some startling ideas about strange phenomena, but it does get to the point fairly quickly, and what a point! I have read just about every book there is, I have searched the conspiracy websites, but never before have I found such evidence placed before me in such a balanced and well researched format. This book has, without doubt, entirely changed my entire outlook on world history. Unless something else, equally as strong, comes along soon then I shall firmly believe for the rest of my life that there was and probably is a secret brotherhood of men calling themselves, quite blatantly, The Shining Ones. They have, without doubt in my mind, merged into our history, moulded it and set it on a self fulfilling future. If I have any complaints about the book at all, it is simply that I wanted to know more. The author claims that simply for the purposes of length that he must end his story just after Mohammed, promising a follow up book to bring us up to date. I wish he would hurry the process along and let us have the next installment..." -- Ernest Scott.

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The story of The Shining Ones is the real history of mankind. Every twist and turn on the pathway of human evolution was put there deliberately by this secret priesthood for a mysterious and extremely long-term goal. On our journey to uncover the Shining Ones we will learn that history, as we know it, is a lie. History is, as Justice Holmes said, "what the people who won say it is." It has been warped over vast periods of time to fit with each generation's idea of what is fact and what is truth. Our belief systems, whether religious, scientific or political, have been manipulated by a secret and deadly group of individuals who have a history going back thousands of years. They have a name, they have a power base and they have a secret, locked away within their initiated few, which has major implications for the future of mankind. We will discover the secret and reveal it. Once we decipher the Shining Ones' clues, we will see how the mysteries of the ancient and not so ancient world can now be solved, from megalithic standing stones, the Holy Grail and alchemy to the truth behind religion and our present political systems. We must forget the false interpretations of myth and religion we have heard so many times, and know them for what they really are: the secret language of the Shining Ones.

[haukipesukone]

Thanks, but that review is on the Amazon page mentioned in the OP. Still it's sort of an annoying cock tease, I'd like have some idea what the Shining Ones are. All it does is mention how ancient, secretive and mysterious they are. So basically it says nothing.

Basically I wanna know is there some actual significance to their "shining", or is it just a name they've given themselves because they're so luminously brilliant?

[novymir]

Has anyone heard about this book or read it? Do you know what it says, what are the "shining ones"? Just some secret cult of people or some sort of light beings? Seems interesting at least.


http://www.amazon.co.uk/Shining-Ones-Worlds-Powerful-Society/dp/1904126006

This may shed some light on the subject...

http://www.bibliotecapleyades.net/vida_alien/alien_watchers18.htm
http://www.illuminati-news.com/ufos-and-aliens/html/elohim.htm
http://books.google.com/books?id=twm-qEmxw38C&printsec=frontcover&dq=the+shining+ones&source=bl&ots=kF_en9qDUp&sig=cjPAw7WOiSJTFPcLxoVclcI9m2I&hl=en&ei=Qq3oS_DEMpDiNaqSkYQK&sa=X&oi=book_result&ct=result&resnum=2&ved=0CBwQ6AEwAQ#v=onepage&q&f=false
http://salemos.tripod.com/index-50.html

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http://www.youtube.com/user/FreedomOfTheSoul

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daniela1771's Channel - YouTube

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[beldazar]

Thanks, but that review is on the Amazon page mentioned in the OP. Still it's sort of an annoying cock tease, I'd like have some idea what the Shining Ones are. All it does is mention how ancient, secretive and mysterious they are. So basically it says nothing.

Basically I wanna know is there some actual significance to their "shining", or is it just a name they've given themselves because they're so luminously brilliant?

David Ickes new book mentions them, The reptilians, illuminati, faces shining like the sun (although I didn't think crocodiles had shining faces) also known as the Watchers, illuminated ones

He is writing about the reptilians who are cotrolling our lives :mad:

[haukipesukone]

Thanks novymir. I'll check it out.


David Ickes new book mentions them, The reptilians, illuminati, faces shining like the sun (although I didn't think crocodiles had shining faces) also known as the Watchers, illuminated ones

He is writing about the reptilians who are cotrolling our lives :mad:


The thing is I'm not so convinced the reptilians are the Illuminati. I'm leaning toward the reptilians being an adversary of the illuminated ones, who are some sort of light beings, projections without true soul/consciousness.

There are some myths that somehow connect reptiles with light like this one:
"Fafnir
The great worm who, in the Old German Tale of the Volsungs, guards the treasures of light, and is slain by Sigurd."

Could mean reptiles have a connection to light or could be that the reptilians somehow prevented the illuminated ones from gaining that knowledge. Also are snakes, reptiles and dragons in mythology the same thing? Maybe they're separate entities/concepts/factions.

But to simplify a lot of conjecture:
Light is usually perceived as good. Age of Enlightenment vs Dark Ages. The supposed innate goodness of light is something I've always had a hard time accepting. At first maybe because I was a bad ass rebel "goth", but now there's more.

Reptiles, snakes and dragons, particularly in the West, are seen as evil. There's the serpent in paradise. Evil reptilians in V and other fictional works. One thing has always bothered me when Icke says St. George is associated with a serpent, but didn't he slay the dragon?

A: The people who rule us are evil.
B: The evil people who rule us say light is good and reptiles bad.
Therefore light is not good and reptiles are not bad.

I'm not saying all light is evil or that reptilians are good. But I believe that from the viewpoint of the Illuminati light is good, whereas it's simply light, and to them reptiles are bad because they are enemies.

[haukipesukone]

Wasterzhi

The most popular deity in the pagan pantheon of the Ossetians, an ethnic group claiming descent from the Indo-Iranian Sarmatians and living on the border between Russia and Georgia. A warrior god (also linked with sun worship), Wasterzhi is generally portrayed as a horseman with a long beard, riding a white horse. The site most sacred to him is Hetag's Grove, a wooded area in the mountains near the North Ossetian capital of Vladikavkaz.

When the Ossetians adopted Christianity, they identified Wasterzhi with the figure of St. George the Dragon-Slayer. Since the collapse of Soviet power in the Caucasus, there has been something of a revival of Wasterzhi's cult in North and South Ossetia.

Radiant warrior god from the region of the Khazars who is identified with St. George the Dragon-Slayer. Light/sun vs reptile.

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/w/wasterzhi.html

[novymir]

David Ickes new book mentions them, The reptilians, illuminati, faces shining like the sun (although I didn't think crocodiles had shining faces) also known as the Watchers, illuminated ones

He is writing about the reptilians who are cotrolling our lives :mad:

That's interesting, speaking literally of "shining faces" because when I awake out of the dream state and am between that and the 3d realm I can see a fluid energy field all around me, and on my ceiling I can see 2 dimensional translucent shining(the intensity and size varies, I think they are like proxy thoughtforms(projected) that are parasitic in nature, (but I don't assume they are necessarily "evil" or harmful) using my energy) faces "watching" me, usually 1 or 2. So Iwake up in this "in-between" realm lucid, I look up at the ceiling and see this shining face that looks like a hand-drawing in light, as soon as I focus on the thing it seems to realize I see it and it glides away across the ceiling towards the wall behind me, as this is happening I'm transitioning into the fully "awake" concrete realm.
These things are not animated beyond linear movement.

[beldazar]

Radiant warrior god from the region of the Khazars who is identified with St. George the Dragon-Slayer. Light/sun vs reptile.

http://www.pantheon.org/articles/w/wasterzhi.html

This is something that has been confusing me for ages. A couple of years ago I visited the local church, St Michaels. There in the front was St. Michael standing on a dragon, presumably dead. I had thought that St Michael was also a dragon :confused:

Ah! Maybe its ALL of us, including the saints, that need to defeat the 'dragon within' the 'R' complex.

In DI's book I read last night that the 'HU' bit to humans relates to the reptilian so all humans must be part reptilian, some with more reptilian than others, dominant 'R' complex or more of their genetics.
I'm glad you brought this up hauke.
I also read a book called From the Ashes of Angels
http://www.andrewcollins.com/page/books/ashes.htm and this seems to separate the two. The shining ones/watchers, in the centre of the earth who have to watch their children suffer, blonde haired blue eyed children.. DI references this book in one of his so I know he has read it. I just trust he has done more research in this area

Also the sentence here, reminds me of......
Our belief systems, whether religious, scientific or political, have been manipulated by a secret and deadly group of individuals who have a history going back thousands of years. They have a name, they have a power base and they have a secret, locked away within their initiated few, which has major implications for the future of mankind.

nothing but the reptilians :confused:


sounds like you had a really weird experience there novymir!



Edit -Just read the link I posted. No I reckon DI is right. They could hardly have appeared in dragon form to sway us like they had and are shape-shifters, could take on any form

Still doesn't sort out the 'saints and dragons' bit though...?

[haukipesukone]

From the Ashes of Angels seems interesting. I actually started writing down a list of books I should read, like here, when someone mentions a book I'm bound to forget about it in a day or two, unless I write it down. So *writing*

In the Biggest Secret Icke mentions Cathy O'brien's experiences where she saw Bush senior turn into a reptile. She thought it was a hologram, but Icke figured it was real. I'm more inclined to believe Cathy on this one. Reptilians have been demonized so much I can't help but believe it's for a reason.

About the Shining Ones. I do believe they are fairies or somehow connected to what we call fairies. In the roleplaying game Changeling: The Dreaming fairy souls inhabit human bodies to hide from hostile forces, sort of like reptilian possession. Shining Host is a term in the game used to refer to fairies.

In fairy myth, in times of legend fairies ruled people as gods, but their power dwindled in the middle-ages they were reduced to fair folk hiding in forests and mounds. In the modern times, perhaps they've taken bodies of flesh to use as vessels.

Graham Hancock's Supernatural compares fairy experiences with alien abduction experiences.

[beldazar]

From the Ashes of Angels seems interesting. I actually started writing down a list of books I should read, like here, when someone mentions a book I'm bound to forget about it in a day or two, unless I write it down. So *writing*

In the Biggest Secret Icke mentions Cathy O'brien's experiences where she saw Bush senior turn into a reptile. She thought it was a hologram, but Icke figured it was real. I'm more inclined to believe Cathy on this one. Reptilians have been demonized so much I can't help but believe it's for a reason.

About the Shining Ones. I do believe they are fairies or somehow connected to what we call fairies. In the roleplaying game Changeling: The Dreaming fairy souls inhabit human bodies to hide from hostile forces, sort of like reptilian possession. Shining Host is a term in the game used to refer to fairies.

In fairy myth, in times of legend fairies ruled people as gods, but their power dwindled in the middle-ages they were reduced to fair folk hiding in forests and mounds. In the modern times, perhaps they've taken bodies of flesh to use as vessels.

Graham Hancock's Supernatural compares fairy experiences with alien abduction experiences.

Yes I do recomment that book. Very small writing, lots crammed into it. I read it before I heard DI speak of the reps so it was easier to digest. The author also writes his thoughts as he is going along. I laughed at one bit, him and a woman visit a zoroastrian priest and she is asked if she is menstruating because the priest finds it offensive when thats the case. I wondered if it was because he was worried he would shapeshift :D

Well couldn't DI and Cathy both be right? Aren't we meant to be holograms? We aren't solid we just decode it as solid. Perhaps during the shift he didn't completely manifest by Cathys decoding ability?

I always thought that perhaps the fairies were the greys or something else entirely.
Like with the film Pans labyrinth, perhaps insects are fairies, we just decode them to be insects now (how awful if true? The amount I have squished :eek:)

[size_of_light]

Like with the film Pans labyrinth, perhaps insects are fairies, we just decode them to be insects now (how awful if true? The amount I have squished :eek:)

Form a clear decision within your own mind right now not to squish any insects ever again unless it is absoutely necessary to your survival.

Fairies or not they're stuck here just like you and I and going about their own business just trying to get the job done. ;)

[beldazar]

Form a clear decision in your mind right now not to squish any insects ever again unless it is absoutely necessary to your own survival.

Fairies or not they're stuck here just like you and I and going about their own business just trying to get the job done. ;)

oh I don't any more, haven't for years. In fact I rescue them.
My mum used to get us to pour boiling water in ant nests when we were kids.

Although I did put down salt the other day and unfortunately slugs crawled into it. Well I was fed up with them eating my clematus, it was the 5th one I had put there :mad: :o :o

(oops, just remembered, my dog got fleas 2 years ago and had to resort to poison, he was really suffering from the biting)

Edit...ok, don't know if you are taking the piss now or not since its you, lol

[size_of_light]

oh I don't any more, haven't for years. In fact I rescue them.
My mum used to get us to pour boiling water in ant nests when we were kids.

Although I did put down salt the other day and unfortunately slugs crawled into it. Well I was fed up with them eating my clematus, it was the 5th one I had put there :mad: :o :o

(oops, just remembered, my dog got fleas 2 years ago and had to resort to poison, he was really suffering from the biting)

Reminds me of friends who had a Buddhist Lama come to stay with them in Melbourne.

Because they didn't want to harm other sentient beings they allowed a flea infestation to run rampant in their home.

When he came to stay, he started getting bitten alive and told them to flea bomb the carpet and let him know when they had - he was checking into a motel!

The apparent moral of the true story was not to become dogmatic and crazy about such things to the point where they interrupt your ability to function in a beneficial way, but also to not unecessarily kill and destroy little beings just because they're smaller than you and an occasional nuisance.

[beldazar]

Reminds me of friends who had a Buddhist Lama come to stay with them in Melbourne.

Because they didn't want to harm other sentient beings they allowed a flea infestation to run rampant in their home.

When he came to stay, he started getting bitten alive and told them to flea bomb the carpet and let him know when they had - he was checking into a motel!

The apparent moral of the true story was not to become dogmatic and crazy about such things to the point where they interrupt your ability to function in a beneficial way, but also to not unecessarily kill and destroy little beings just because they're smaller than you and an ocassional nuisance.

Yeah that seems fair enough :D
Sometimes these things just have to be done hey? I'm sure nobody would want to live with crabs, although I do remember a story in a magazine where this couple had learnt to live with them :eek: :confused:

So you weren't taking the piss, I just have the picture you posted of the anteater :)

[size_of_light]

Yeah that seems fair enough :D
Sometimes these things just have to be done hey? I'm sure nobody would want to live with crabs, although I do remember a story in a magazine where this couple had learnt to live with them :eek: :confused:

So you weren't taking the piss, I just have the picture you posted of the anteater :)

Crabs? :eek:

My only experience with them is from watching the "Porkys" trilogy.

Something you're not telling us? :eek:

Perhaps the Shining Ones can help. ;)

[beldazar]

Crabs? :eek:

My only experience with them is from watching the "Porkys" trilogy.

Something you're not telling us? :eek:

Perhaps the Shining Ones can help. ;)

Na not me mate, I'm totally innocent!!!! :eek:




:D

[size_of_light]

Na not me mate, I'm totally innocent!!!! :eek:




:D

hadabusa * sub * !!!!!!

[beldazar]

hadabusa * sub * !!!!!!

NOOOOOO!!!!

Keep that guy away! :eek:

[haukipesukone]

Hey keep it down you bastards, hi-jacking my ego-thread!


Yes I do recomment that book. Very small writing, lots crammed into it. I read it before I heard DI speak of the reps so it was easier to digest. The author also writes his thoughts as he is going along. I laughed at one bit, him and a woman visit a zoroastrian priest and she is asked if she is menstruating because the priest finds it offensive when thats the case. I wondered if it was because he was worried he would shapeshift :D

Well couldn't DI and Cathy both be right? Aren't we meant to be holograms? We aren't solid we just decode it as solid. Perhaps during the shift he didn't completely manifest by Cathys decoding ability?

I always thought that perhaps the fairies were the greys or something else entirely.
Like with the film Pans labyrinth, perhaps insects are fairies, we just decode them to be insects now (how awful if true? The amount I have squished :eek:)

I think we're holograms, but I think Cathy's point was that Bush's transformation was somehow false. That it wasn't his real form. Perhaps they wanted Cathy to "break free" and tell everyone how reptilians are bad.

I think that the reptilians are as "real" as we are (though perhaps not as physical), but the Shining Ones are not. They are true holograms (I would recommend you watch Star Trek Voyager seasons 5-7 but it sucks), thus shapeshifting is very easy for them, but not necessarily for reptilians.

I haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth but I was talking just today that I should watch it.

There is also the notion of insects, that they have some sort of meaning. Was it Credo Mutwa who said (or perhaps some myths I read recently about Nommos) that before we were changed into our current form we were being taken care of by ant people? Possibly Hancock's Supernatural mentioned something about African shamans and them turning into insects... but that's not all. There's some weird hunch I have. Either insects are more than we think they are or there are spirits that resemble insects.

[enga]

I wasn't overly impressed with his book which lacked depth and information, spent a lot of time repeating and came to the conclusion (the jist of it was) that if you want to know more buy his next book.

[beldazar]

Hey keep it down you bastards, hi-jacking my ego-thread!




I think we're holograms, but I think Cathy's point was that Bush's transformation was somehow false. That it wasn't his real form. Perhaps they wanted Cathy to "break free" and tell everyone how reptilians are bad.

I think that the reptilians are as "real" as we are (though perhaps not as physical), but the Shining Ones are not. They are true holograms (I would recommend you watch Star Trek Voyager seasons 5-7 but it sucks), thus shapeshifting is very easy for them, but not necessarily for reptilians.

I haven't seen Pan's Labyrinth but I was talking just today that I should watch it.

There is also the notion of insects, that they have some sort of meaning. Was it Credo Mutwa who said (or perhaps some myths I read recently about Nommos) that before we were changed into our current form we were being taken care of by ant people? Possibly Hancock's Supernatural mentioned something about African shamans and them turning into insects... but that's not all. There's some weird hunch I have. Either insects are more than we think they are or there are spirits that resemble insects.

Haw haw haw so insect people now???

Seems like perhaps evolution may just fit in somewhere in all this...just not in the way we have been told?
What came before insects? Bacteria? What will come after reptilians? Mammals? So we will be ruled over by giant bloody polar bears???

Where are these answers, lol

[haukipesukone]

Haw haw haw so insect people now???

Seems like perhaps evolution may just fit in somewhere in all this...just not in the way we have been told?
What came before insects? Bacteria? What will come after reptilians? Mammals? So we will be ruled over by giant bloody polar bears???

Where are these answers, lol

I don't think it's insect people. More like insects represent something, like the fairy-thing you mentioned. Perhaps some of sort of inhabitants of other realms that we can't perceive properly, so we see them as something that resemble insects to us.

[beldazar]

I don't think it's insect people. More like insects represent something, like the fairy-thing you mentioned. Perhaps some of sort of inhabitants of other realms that we can't perceive properly, so we see them as something that resemble insects to us.

Or maybe we are just waiting for these freaking reptilians to evolve :D

[haukipesukone]

Or maybe we are just waiting for these freaking reptilians to evolve :D

What do you mean?

[beldazar]

What do you mean?

well if there were insects controlling us then reptilians, whats the next supposed stage of evolution, mammals (i e polar bears :D)

(or however evolution was meant to develop)

[haukipesukone]

well if there were insects controlling us then reptilians, whats the next supposed stage of evolution, mammals (i e polar bears :D)

(or however evolution was meant to develop)

Were there insects controlling us?

[beldazar]

Were there insects controlling us?

I'm sure someone posted on this thread that insectiods used to be in control of us according to......ah yes, it's in DI's new book! Credo said it! :rolleyes::o

[haukipesukone]

I'm sure someone posted on this thread that insectiods used to be in control of us according to......ah yes, it's in DI's new book! Credo said it! :rolleyes::o

I said something like ant people used to take care of us, meaning something more benevolent than a secret society of ants working in the shadows. But anyway I don't believe in insect people like this:

http://www.hauntedventures.com/2007NEWTEMPLATES/TwistedMasksAndCostumes/CostumeSets/BugManLEFT.jpg


I am interested in insect people in a more symbolic sense.

[haukipesukone]

I read the Shining Ones, and found it to be quite assy in general. It had little new info for me. It consisted mostly of randomly mentioning one thing, and then jumping onto a new random thing. It didn't really say anything. Vague hints here and there.

Basically it's the usual conspiracy story. There's some conspiracy that dates back to ancient times and they've been controlling us ever since. It claims the Shining Ones were the original shamans of tribal cultures who were selling their fake religion to control people. Then the shamans had to adopt to create new religions. In the end the book even questions if the Shining Ones exist anymore.

Gardiner hardly even tries to prove anything, he doesn't seem to have any message. No solution about what to do except that religion is a lie that has been sold to us, which is nothing new (the book is copyrighted 2002). The book is somehow so passionless, I didn't get the impression he's writing it for the good of humanity and truth.

There are a few interesting observations that made me think, but overall it's so half-assed and it's hard to say what Gardiner tried to accomplish with the book, so I'll say it's either written for money or distraction. I feel fucking cheated, wasting couple of weeks reading that watered down cheap wine. The book ends with the words: "The Shining Ones. I salute you."

Shillage if I ever saw one.