Not going to try to wake anyone up.

[blackstar76]

I'm am done trying to wake other people up. I have sent videos and links to everyone I know and all I got in return in negative feedback. I am just going to keep this to myself from now on and use it for my own growth. Waking someone who is sleeping just makes them cranky. When the world starts to change these people won't have a clue on whats going on. Too bad.

[kappy0405]

shame on you...

[kappy0405]

what i mean is... start going to strangers and trying to tell them. you'll see how bad it really is.. :D

[lizard_monkey]

always look on the bright side of life RMX - YouTube

[redorbluepill]

As you can not force a child to mature; you can not force someone to 'wake up.' You most likely try to use logic, but we do not live in a logical world or else they would already be awake. Peace to you.

[whiteknightd]

I'm am done trying to wake other people up. I have sent videos and links to everyone I know and all I got in return in negative feedback. I am just going to keep this to myself from now on and use it for my own growth. Waking someone who is sleeping just makes them cranky. When the world starts to change these people won't have a clue on whats going on. Too bad.

you'll start to notice, as i have, that the more you awaken yourself, you will start attracting others to you that are open-minded and won't view you as crazy.

it's like our open-mindedness and the truth energy that we resonate is attracting others.

from my experience, when i try to shove it down people's throats they don't really care, or choose to take the blue pill due to fear.

so i just "roll with it" by living in the moment and letting everything unfold naturally and spiritually instead of trying to focus on manipulation of others.

just like morpheus said "nobody can be shown the matrix, they have to see it for themselves".

don't try to "comb the mirror" as David Icke says, by trying to change the outside. the more people that change the inside, the more others will be "infected" by the truth energy.

[noewhan]

you'll start to notice, as i have, that the more you awaken yourself, you will start attracting others to you that are open-minded and won't view you as crazy.

it's like our open-mindedness and the truth energy that we resonate is attracting others.

from my experience, when i try to shove it down people's throats they don't really care, or choose to take the blue pill due to fear.

so i just "roll with it" by living in the moment and letting everything unfold naturally and spiritually instead of trying to focus on manipulation of others.

just like morpheus said "nobody can be shown the matrix, they have to see it for themselves".

don't try to "comb the mirror" as David Icke says, by trying to change the outside. the more people that change the inside, the more others will be "infected" by the truth energy.

+1!! I have had a similar experiences.

At first some people laugh it off... But more & more.. you know what I am bout to say. :)

No feedback is negative.

[blackstar76]

Yeah I hope so. Good advice. It just makes me angry when most people still don't even realize the truth about 9-11. How can you tell them anything beyond that lol. It would be nice to have some real time people in my life to talk with it about. But you are right. I just need to focus on what I believe and maybe some people will show up in my life.

[vladmir]

I'm am done trying to wake other people up. I have sent videos and links to everyone I know and all I got in return in negative feedback. I am just going to keep this to myself from now on and use it for my own growth. Waking someone who is sleeping just makes them cranky. When the world starts to change these people won't have a clue on whats going on. Too bad.
Yep, in 2006 it hit me like a ton of bricks that 9-11 was an inside job.
i thought if i just alert enough people, we would all join together for a common goal of getting the truth out, and it would be so easy.
Nah.
It was easy for me to see that what i had believed was a lie,
and that i was deceived by the very people we had entrusted to protect us.

Forget strangers, even my mother and father still dont get the big picture.
I cannot describe in words, how pissed off that makes me.
Thats when i decided to just let go.
I really, really wanted to expand their minds and their understanding of who they really are, but it all fell on deaf ears.
Well, fuck it.
I dont give a fuck about people who dont want to see what i am seeing.
I suppose they feel the same way. fuck them.
As you can see, its hard for me to let go,
and its only me that responsible for it apparently.
So be it.
I am staying on this planet,
and no matter how many incarnations i have to take,
i want to be someone who is like a permanent ,
rooted in this densest of all planes, 3D.
I want to be a permanent member of the light-force,
with enough power to stay put and continue shining the light of truth.
I have a long way to go,
but this is my answer to the dark side.
One fine day, i will conquer myself, my fears, my expectations, my desires,
and my stupid mind which is like a monkey on crack most of the time.
One fine day, i will be my own master.
Then, instead of ascending,
i will stay put,
because i will have the Prime Cause with me,
wherever i am.
And i will KNOW IT.

[kappy0405]

Yeah I hope so. Good advice. It just makes me angry when most people still don't even realize the truth about 9-11. How can you tell them anything beyond that lol. It would be nice to have some real time people in my life to talk with it about. But you are right. I just need to focus on what I believe and maybe some people will show up in my life.

maybe you can join your local 'wearechange' meetup? or if you have at least a few friends who know what's going on, you can get together with them and take your message to the public. Make a hobby out of it.. Go to malls, intersections, etc.. and pass out information. I do this all the time, and some people are willing to listen. It can be a bit depressing at times, but eventually you reach someone, & the struggle becomes well worth it in the end.

[the perfect one]

I'm am done trying to wake other people up. I have sent videos and links to everyone I know and all I got in return in negative feedback. I am just going to keep this to myself from now on and use it for my own growth. Waking someone who is sleeping just makes them cranky. When the world starts to change these people won't have a clue on whats going on. Too bad.


I completely understand . Besides , maybe some have been taken over already. Walk ins or possession. But you know, I can feel your pain. I really, really can.

It's a disgusting, deep down in the pit of your stomach pain. You know things are wrong and you want to warn people and help organize. Meh, I almost dont want to do sheet no more either. After all no one cares. I care -so I guess I do it for me and my family. Take care of yourself. The world has done gone crazy.

[blackstar76]

No kidding Vladmir. Even when you have people that realize the truth they will never do anything about it. I only realized a few years back and until then I didn't believe in any conspirecy theories. I decided to see what else those "quacks" were on about. Seemed liked everything they were asking questions about deserved as such. I am now a quack too and thankful for it.

I do have one friend Kappy who believes in Illuminati and such just debating if I should introduce him to Ickes stuff?

[blackstar76]

I completely understand . Besides , maybe some have been taken over already. Walk ins or possession. But you know, I can feel your pain. I really, really can.

It's a disgusting, deep down in the pit of your stomach pain. You know things are wrong and you want to warn people and help organize. Meh, I almost dont want to do sheet no more either. After all no one cares. I care -so I guess I do it for me and my family. Take care of yourself. The world has done gone crazy.

Exactly and most people will admit that the world is gone crazy and evil but they never ask why.They just go back to trying to fit in as best they can. I hope the truth comes out soon cause it is making me bonkers.

[kappy0405]

I do have one friend Kappy who believes in Illuminati and such just debating if I should introduce him to Ickes stuff?

I guess it depends on how opened minded he is. If he's into spirituality, I'm sure you can feel him out about Icke's ideas, which in comparison to standard religion, aren't really as extreme as some people like to make them out to be.. Just look for the common ground and work from there.

As far as spreading the truth to the public in general, imo it's best to leave highly controversial topics out of the discussion for now.. Most people have no idea what's even going on politically, they can't even grasp the reality of the banking system, so introducing people to Icke off that bat is probably activist-suicide. :p

The Federal Reserve is actually a hot-topic nowadays, so people might be keen to listen to what you have to say about that... from there work your way into more detail about Rockefeller, Rothschild, etc.. Then introduce their lobbying systems like the CFR, Trilateral Commission.. Unfortunately, people need to be walked through the truth gradually... It's best to start with the more 'down to Earth' topics.

[the perfect one]

I guess it depends on how opened minded he is. If he's into spirituality, I'm sure you can feel him out about Icke's ideas, which in comparison to standard religion, aren't really as extreme as some people like to make them out to be.. Just look for the common ground and work from there.

As far as spreading the truth to the public in general, imo it's best to leave highly controversial topics out of the discussion for now.. Most people have no idea what's even going on politically, they can't even grasp the reality of the banking system, so introducing people to Icke off that bat is probably activist-suicide. :p

The Federal Reserve is actually a hot-topic nowadays, so people might be keen to listen to what you have to say about that... from there work your way into more detail about Rockefeller, Rothschild, etc.. Then introduce their lobbying systems like the CFR, Trilateral Commission.. Unfortunately, people need to be walked through the truth gradually... It's best to start with the more 'down to Earth' topics.

Yeah , I have to laugh because I couldnt imagine starting to wake up at this late date. I cant imagine just now figuring it out. Wow,talk about wasted time huh. Good luck fellow truth travelers-it's a long road to hoe. It's a thank less job at that. I wish you all well.

[zone2012]

“First they ignore you, then they laugh at you, then they fight you, then you win.”
Mahatma Gandhi

[picha]

I'm am done trying to wake other people up. I have sent videos and links to everyone I know and all I got in return in negative feedback. I am just going to keep this to myself from now on and use it for my own growth. Waking someone who is sleeping just makes them cranky. When the world starts to change these people won't have a clue on whats going on. Too bad.

Probably a good idea. I once tried to wake my mum and dad up about ID cards and I got 3 days of ridicule and at they end of it they tried to make me go and see some mental health people. Being a sheeple is very much like a religion, you will often make people violently angry when you try and tell them its wrong.

[princessofwands]

The trouble is, you're talking to the part of people that is embedded in matrix-thinking.

Everyone's aura is full of conditioned, habitual thoughts. Those thoughts have a life of their own (called an 'elemental'). That elemental sees a contrary thought trying to get into the aura and it fights like mad for its life because you can't have opposing thoughts in your mind at the same time, the tension between them tears you apart. One minute the sheeple-thought, the next minute the conspiracy-thought bobs up into your awareness. This is called cognitive dissonance, having 2 truths in mind at the same time and being unable to reconcile them.

Gentle infiltration is the only way. You want to slip little thoughts in (new 'elementals') which are not too contrary to what's there. And you need to do it over and over again. It's said that an idea, once heard, can't be unheard again. So, a tiny thought has been slipped in. Now, you need to gradually feed that thought for them, again not too scarily. Just slip more thoughts in, slowly and gradually.

Sooner or later, the new conspiracy mindset will seriously challenge the sheeple mindset. That's when it gets interesting because they will then find the inner conflict is pretty strong and they'll have to decide where to go with this...into the new conspiracy mindset or throw it out altogether and go back into the sleep of the sheeple.

Slowly, one complex of mind-elementals is replaced by another.

We all remember what it was like when the more worrying details of the global manipulation came into our mind. We fought back, we didn't like it, we didn't want it to be true! Oh no, we didn't want to think that our political masters really were as soulless and evil as the conspiracy field says. It was hard to get over this conflict. I still fight with it sometimes, especially when a sheep tries to tell me that 'they' only mean the best for us. There are still remnants of matrix-thinking elementals in my mind and they love any opportunity to re-assert themselves so I can fall back into the illusion that it's all love-n-light everywhere.

The battle for truth is out there, and it's also in each one of us. Funny thing is, once you're getting awakened, the universe helps out too. You 'accidentally' pick up books that just happen to feed your newer elementals, strange how you never noticed those books before. This kind of 'food' arrives spontaneously. People arrive too, as someone said previously on this thread. Your new elementals are fed by their corresponding elementals too.

Of course there'll come a point where you realise you've become 'a repeater' of other people's thoughts: you've allowed their mind-elementals to take up residence in your mind. Their mindset has become your mindset. But if you get the same ideas from a large number of different sources, you might be confident that they are true.

Or is it simply the Law of Attraction, bringing 'more of the same' into your life?

That's one to which I don't have an answer. In the end, we have to try and find out for ourselves what is true, and not just because other people say so. And for that, we probably need to go inter-dimensional and avoid the illusions that are also found on the lower levels of the astral plane.

Better stop there or I'll go off on so many tangents I'll lose the point of this thread altogether...

:D

[boeing727]

you'll start to notice, as i have, that the more you awaken yourself, you will start attracting others to you that are open-minded and won't view you as crazy.

it's like our open-mindedness and the truth energy that we resonate is attracting others.

from my experience, when i try to shove it down people's throats they don't really care, or choose to take the blue pill due to fear.

so i just "roll with it" by living in the moment and letting everything unfold naturally and spiritually instead of trying to focus on manipulation of others.

just like morpheus said "nobody can be shown the matrix, they have to see it for themselves".

don't try to "comb the mirror" as David Icke says, by trying to change the outside. the more people that change the inside, the more others will be "infected" by the truth energy.

Very true my friend. Last week one of my friends just started talking to me about conspiracies in religion. It was a complete shock not only because this area appears to have very few who are awake but he come to me which is a first. I had a conversation about it with him infront of freinds and family for which me and him got ridiculed. In the end I let him borrow my copy of the biggest secret and we shall see what happens in the future.

As for trying to awaken people yes its a hard game but you have to have (or develop) the patience and character traits to do it successfully. I am still learning from my own mistakes and trust me its not an easy game.

here are the lessons I have picked up using trial and error methods

1) If someone is starting to warm to some of it don't force feed every other thing you know on them. It will turn them off not only you but the info. Be gentle and go at thier pace.

2) if they really are not going to take the bait then don't bother carrying on. Yes its a bummer but as icke says "you can never unhear something"

3) If they brign up an issue that relates to the conspiracy then you can test the waters. Example they say "Greece and Iceland are having a hard time financially at the moment" now the time to test the waters and see what they say when you briefly mention the monetary system.

[practicaltheorist]

Yeah I hope so. Good advice. It just makes me angry when most people still don't even realize the truth about 9-11. How can you tell them anything beyond that lol. It would be nice to have some real time people in my life to talk with it about. But you are right. I just need to focus on what I believe and maybe some people will show up in my life.

I am one of those people who need to think it up for myself in order to think stuff is a good idea. Or at least I have to seek the information I am looking for in order to bother actually thinking about it. In my head its like a road block being built when people start telling me what the truth is.

Sometimes people (or at least I) need to figure it out for themselves. Using evangelism is the equivalent of taking a sledgehammer to someones beliefs or perceptions of reality.

Sometimes its better to plant the seed and watch it grow.

I can only speak for myself, but asking people if they`ve heard whats in the swine flu vaccine or who Tim Osman is (and then explaining it when they say "no"), is usually far more effective in terms of making people think for themselves.

Thats my take on it, not sure if I`m making sense but... still :)

[boeing727]

That is also true that some have to seek it themselves and no one can wake certain people up. That individual will wake themselves up when the time is right.