This forum needs to get real and wake up .

[tracker]

OK , please read this thread before judging me on what I have to say .

Yes I have made the odd big brother thread .
Yes I have made many comments about reptilians , 9/11 , conspiracies , 2012 , and more .

BUT , it has just occurred to me .

Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .

SO


what reality do you want to live in ?

1 )
where the moon is full of aliens creating this false reality and we are being poisoned on every level.
paedophilia rules in the White House and parliaments.
humanity being poisoned by chem trails and aspartame.
Big brother is watching you in your homes and electronically harassing you .
Aliens eating children alive .
the TV is controlling your mind .
The world government is planning to kill us all in fema camps .
DRs want to kill you .
the devil runs this system ( more alien control )
people are all mind controlled .
Nazis have taken over .




OR

2 ) that it is all going to be OK . There is nothing to worry about .



Its up to you .

I know what reality I prefer .

Ive been there , seen loads , learned loads ,

but guess what ?

My big brother threads ? yes , well big brother does not bug me any more , reptilians don't come near me and my life is now peaceful , its quiet , and bliss .

do you know why ?

because I refuse to give those things my energy !

I no longer , through protest or compliance , give them any energy of my focus , other than creating this thread .

because


Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .


Now















its up to you .:)



May be , just may be , its not humanity that has to wake up
















IT'S YOU !:cool:

[torus]

In my best Deepak Chopra voice. "why are you slowly dying? who told you that you had to die? why are you doing it"

[ozpixie]

OK , please read this thread before judging me on what I have to say .

Yes I have made the odd big brother thread .
Yes I have made many comments about reptilians , 9/11 , conspiracies , 2012 , and more .

BUT , it has just occurred to me .

Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .

SO


what reality do you want to live in ?

1 )
where the moon is full of aliens creating this false reality and we are being poisoned on every level.
paedophilia rules in the White House and parliaments.
humanity being poisoned by chem trails and aspartame.
Big brother is watching you in your homes and electronically harassing you .
Aliens eating children alive .
the TV is controlling your mind .
The world government is planning to kill us all in fema camps .
DRs want to kill you .
the devil runs this system ( more alien control )
people are all mind controlled .
Nazis have taken over .




OR

2 ) that it is all going to be OK . There is nothing to worry about .



Its up to you .

I know what reality I prefer .

Ive been there , seen loads , learned loads ,

but guess what ?

My big brother threads ? yes , well big brother does not bug me any more , reptilians don't come near me and my life is now peaceful , its quiet , and bliss .

do you know why ?

because I refuse to give those things my energy !

I no longer , through protest or compliance , give them any energy of my focus , other than creating this thread .

because


Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .


Now















its up to you .:)



May be , just may be , its not humanity that has to wake up
















IT'S YOU !:cool:

+1

[the perfect one]

Nice thought. Unfortunatly though, kids are abused by these monsters and changing my outlook wont bring back my missing siblings. I hear what you are saying but sometimes you can think all the good in the world but someone else is doing all the bad right behind your back. Still in a way you are right. But it wont work for everything. I take it as equivalant to sticking head in sand. If it works for you though,then I am happy for you. It's nice to see happy people living in harmony. I used to be one till I got a big dose of reality . I want that back.

[cosmo1]

Yes, yes and yes; good one tracker :D

[the perfect one]

Question meant with sincerity,:)

How does that help tortured children ? How can using your method help them? I'm not being a smart butt just curious about this method and how it could help them? Wouldnt going on with the "everything is gonna be ok method ,be really just ignoring problems? Help me understand please. I'm listening.

[ownoiz]

Some things do cease to exist when we ignore them and stop feeding them energy.

But some things just come and manifest themselves in our reality no matter how much we ignored and didnt want it to be real.

Nothing is black and white, but in principle i agree with the OP if circumstances are correct.

Especially when it comes to turning off the TV! Nothing cultivates hive mind mentality like the TV and especially news and current affairs programs.
.

[the perfect one]

Some things do cease to exist when we ignore them and stop feeding them energy.

But some things just come and manifest themselves in our reality no matter how much we ignored and didnt want it to be real.

Nothing is black and white, but in principle i agree with the OP if circumstances are correct.

Especially when it comes to turning off the TV! Nothing cultivates hive mind mentality like the TV and especially news and current affairs programs.
.

Oh I understand it better now. Basically , try to be good and think good and live in harmony -good vibrations type thing.

I totally agree with turning off the tv. I stopped with politics too.

Thanks for explaining it to me.:)

[ownoiz]

I totally agree with turning off the tv. I stopped with politics too.


It kinda goes hand ind hand now doesnt it, the TV is mostly politics :D

Yes its been a while since i subscribed to getting emotionally involved in that puppet show, they are all working towards the same policies.

But that doesnt stop me from wanting to amuse myself with politics, If i had some spare time, i want to get that image program that blends faces, like some of the Bush-Obama avatars ive seen here,

http://t0.gstatic.com/images?q=tbn:wBL87TtFOK0-FM:http://mycrazydream.net/wp/wp-content/uploads/2010/02/bush-obama.jpg

being australian, i want to do Penny Wong-Malcolm Turnbull blend since they both Macquarie-Cintra-Goldman Sachs carbon tax puppets, even though they appear to be on opposite sides. I would find the result amusing, and would have to think of a good caption to go with it. :D

:cool:
.

[innerlight]

Question meant with sincerity,:)

How does that help tortured children ? How can using your method help them? I'm not being a smart butt just curious about this method and how it could help them? Wouldnt going on with the "everything is gonna be ok method ,be really just ignoring problems? Help me understand please. I'm listening.

same questions i have. if the OP is on to something though, what if millions of people worldwide simply focused on stoping these tortures instead of griping about how awful they are?

yes, they are awful! but what if we focused as a human race on saying "we end you now!"

the power of thought is sooooooooo powerful.

[the perfect one]

same questions i have. if the OP is on to something though, what if millions of people worldwide simply focused on stoping these tortures instead of griping about how awful they are?

yes, they are awful! but what if we focused as a human race on saying "we end you now!"

the power of thought is sooooooooo powerful.

I'm game . How do we do it ? Just think about it stopping? If so, really you guys think it might work? That would be wonderful. Has there been any success before in applying this method to other horrible events? This is a cool thought and if it really could work,I'm game.

[1964]

What you're proposing is that opposed realities can co-exist. You mentioned two: One reality where big brother and reptilians finally take over the world; and a second reality where you, and the people who follow you, will always live in a free, peaceful society. But, in truth, there are many imagined realities by many people. And it's impossible for them to all be true, especially when they contradict each other. One person imagines global peace; another person imagines Armageddon, and total global destruction. They can't both be right.

[the perfect one]

What you're proposing is that opposed realities can co-exist. You mentioned two: One reality where big brother and reptilians finally take over the world; and a second reality where you, and the people who follow you, will always live in a free, peaceful society. But, in truth, there are many imagined realities by many people. And it's impossible for them to all be true, especially when they contradict each other. One person imagines global peace; another person imagines Armageddon, and total global destruction. They can't both be right.

Then there's the reality of it. Right there. Still, I guess some more positive is better then the other option. I guess we should prepare for the worst but hope and think and pray for the best.

[verndewd]

same questions i have. if the OP is on to something though, what if millions of people worldwide simply focused on stoping these tortures instead of griping about how awful they are?

yes, they are awful! but what if we focused as a human race on saying "we end you now!"

the power of thought is sooooooooo powerful.

it is, for example my brother and i both have stalkers and recently mine passed by initiating a fear energy so i let the fear energy stay in my body and opened my heart and told the energy to look there, it took some meditation but the energy stopped.

We are immensely powerful.

[ozpixie]

Each person focussing their energy and time on the positive outcomes we want to see all the while balancing that with knowing what the other side wants. Here are some examples of what I mean. Not buying into the paranoia that our neighbours are terrorists, paedophiles, snowdroppers or identity thieves. Sharing some trust with each other. Speak up for the voiceless and expose corruption. Write letters to MP's people at council and the press, regardless of their response to you. Keep doing it. Refuse to engage in road rage. Don't vent frustration on the poor shop assistant, bank teller or telemarketer. If someone is truly in need, share with them knowing they will probably never be able to pay you back. Looking between the lines of newspaper articles, not giving in to advertising hype and social engineering tactics. Wherever possible take nothing from the system in terms of payments. Tell everyone you know what is really going on. If you live according to your principles then that will show others that you are not easily conned or hoodwinked even though it might take time for the penny to really drop for some.

The Bible has a saying, be as wise as serpents but as gentle as doves.

[ozpixie]

We are in this predicament because of misplaced trust, belief that gaining 'stuff' /greed is good and that somehow we must get one up on the other guy. There has been altogether too much hatred, mistrust of our peers and greed, mostly borne out of fear that is largely unjustified. We should have been in fear, not of awe of the political and church leaders that have shaped the world into the mess it's in. We shouldn't have listened to them and now we are paying the price.

[verndewd]

We are in this predicament because of misplaced trust, belief that gaining 'stuff' /greed is good and that somehow we must get one up on the other guy. There has been altogether too much hatred, mistrust of our peers and greed, mostly borne out of fear that is largely unjustified. We should have been in fear, not of awe of the political and church leaders that have shaped the world into the mess it's in. We shouldn't have listened to them and now we are paying the price.

were in this position because we offload our responsibility for our part in creation to leaders.

[ozpixie]

The Hollie Grieg story could have been on the front page of every Pommy paper by now if all the Brits in here had gotten together and written to every MP and the editors of all the papers, magazines, radio and TV stations and kept hammering away with 1/2 page letterbox drops (for less than 1c per copy) so that thousands or even millions of people knew what was going on. You have to lose all fear to do that. They have the power but fail to use it because fear stops them. No threats need to be made, no slander, no foul language. Just the truth. That would stop the rape of these young people.

[shed7628]

what reality do you want to live in ?

1 )
where the moon is full of aliens creating this false reality and we are being poisoned on every level.
paedophilia rules in the White House and parliaments.
humanity being poisoned by chem trails and aspartame.
Big brother is watching you in your homes and electronically harassing you .
Aliens eating children alive .
the TV is controlling your mind .
The world government is planning to kill us all in fema camps .
DRs want to kill you .
the devil runs this system ( more alien control )
people are all mind controlled .
Nazis have taken over .




OR

2 ) that it is all going to be OK . There is nothing to worry about .




I don’t see why you have to separate them for me both are true,
Most of what you outline in option 1 is going on.
Me wishing it will all go away won’t make it disappear, but personally I couldn’t careless about the reptiles, big brother, evil aliens etc if they want to fuk with me then they are fuking with the wrong person. I don’t sweat any of them, that’s how they will lose their energy, imho.

[cosmo1]

You can know that stuff is going on in the world, and you can empathise with the people it is happening to, but don't dwell on the base energy level where it is happening.
Lift your energy level to one of 'knowing' that all is well; a high vibration of energy will attract more and more of the same. Snowball effect. Imho :).

[jackson82]

In my best Deepak Chopra voice. "why are you slowly dying? who told you that you had to die? why are you doing it"

Is deeppockets chopra choosing to get old then, and what will people say to him when he is dying?:rolleyes:

[tracker]

In my best Deepak Chopra voice. "why are you slowly dying? who told you that you had to die? why are you doing it"
That made me laugh . :D

however , there is a point , where wanting to live is denied by death .

:)

[tracker]

Nice thought. Unfortunatly though, kids are abused by these monsters and changing my outlook wont bring back my missing siblings. I hear what you are saying but sometimes you can think all the good in the world but someone else is doing all the bad right behind your back. Still in a way you are right. But it wont work for everything. I take it as equivalant to sticking head in sand. If it works for you though,then I am happy for you. It's nice to see happy people living in harmony. I used to be one till I got a big dose of reality . I want that back.



I see your point , and I know children are abused .

I do my bit when it concerns the health and safety of children .

I have helped eject one pedo from the village , and also helped a couple see the errors of their ways on how their alchoholic lives affect their children , so do not missunderstand me , I do my bit when I can .

I know what you are saying about trusting folks and then things happen behind ones back , that is true , bad people exist and thats reality .

I do my bit when I can but I refuse to make my life on this stuff , epecially all the other stuff like , HAARP , the moon matrix , big brother , Nazis , bla bla bla bla bla -------------------can do ones mental health absolutey no good .

is what I am trying to get across .

:)

[velma]

I was thinking the same thing the other day, while sitting in my garden (sanctuary) that if I simply refuse to recognise or acknowledge the ghastly system, it might just... go away... and cease to exist, because I have denied it entry to my consciousness. :)

[tracker]

Some things do cease to exist when we ignore them and stop feeding them energy.

But some things just come and manifest themselves in our reality no matter how much we ignored and didnt want it to be real.

Nothing is black and white, but in principle i agree with the OP if circumstances are correct.

Especially when it comes to turning off the TV! Nothing cultivates hive mind mentality like the TV and especially news and current affairs programs.
.

yes thanks for that one .

I was hoping that I did not come across to say it wasnt real , bloody hell lol I know the TV programs the mind , but it no longer programs mine because it has no attention from me , there for , Tv in my reality does not program the mind .

you are right though , some bad people and situations come , no matter how we think and act , but we must stop giving a lot of these things our energy , be it in protest of compliance .

:)

[tracker]

same questions i have. if the OP is on to something though, what if millions of people worldwide simply focused on stoping these tortures instead of griping about how awful they are?

yes, they are awful! but what if we focused as a human race on saying "we end you now!"

the power of thought is sooooooooo powerful.


yes , something like this , the only reason why fearworks is because people think "bloody hell thats bad " bla bla bla bla bla .

we end you now ?

thats a good start actually .

what if every one did start to think that ?
what if people went around saying it ?

could you imagine if some of the masses went on question time and every time the mike went to a person to ask a question , the person said

"we are not going to give you our energy any more , we end you now"

could you imagine the looks on the faces of the pannel ?


:)

[tracker]

I'm game . How do we do it ? Just think about it stopping? If so, really you guys think it might work? That would be wonderful. Has there been any success before in applying this method to other horrible events? This is a cool thought and if it really could work,I'm game.


the thing is this , when we train our brain to think "now this stops , now you have no more of our energy" , our bodies soon follow suit .
the laws of physics then slowly manifests situations that lead us to situations and cercumstances that WILL help us bring it to an end . END , the REAL -------END !

We need to make our brains know this as fact , and sooner or later we become in tune with events and nature that will bring us to this conclusion .

but it needs clean , unhindered , undoubtful thoughts on the matter .

no doubts , rather like a knowing .:)

[weeme]

Serenity Prayer

(God) grant me the serenity
to accept the things I cannot change;
courage to change the things I can;
and wisdom to know the difference.

Change the word God to what ever you believe in.

That is what I live by.

[tracker]

What you're proposing is that opposed realities can co-exist. You mentioned two: One reality where big brother and reptilians finally take over the world; and a second reality where you, and the people who follow you, will always live in a free, peaceful society. But, in truth, there are many imagined realities by many people. And it's impossible for them to all be true, especially when they contradict each other. One person imagines global peace; another person imagines Armageddon, and total global destruction. They can't both be right.

But if you researched alternate reality states , they can both coexist .

you see

the person who always thinks of armogedon , is the one that dies in a catastrophe , the other lives through it .


:cool:

[tracker]

Each person focussing their energy and time on the positive outcomes we want to see all the while balancing that with knowing what the other side wants. Here are some examples of what I mean. Not buying into the paranoia that our neighbours are terrorists, paedophiles, snowdroppers or identity thieves. Sharing some trust with each other. Speak up for the voiceless and expose corruption. Write letters to MP's people at council and the press, regardless of their response to you. Keep doing it. Refuse to engage in road rage. Don't vent frustration on the poor shop assistant, bank teller or telemarketer. If someone is truly in need, share with them knowing they will probably never be able to pay you back. Looking between the lines of newspaper articles, not giving in to advertising hype and social engineering tactics. Wherever possible take nothing from the system in terms of payments. Tell everyone you know what is really going on. If you live according to your principles then that will show others that you are not easily conned or hoodwinked even though it might take time for the penny to really drop for some.

The Bible has a saying, be as wise as serpents but as gentle as doves.


totally echo that one ! well done .

yes I do stand up against manyat times , yes I do feel sorry for the village idiot and yes I do stand up for them .

but also , I do not place my energy upon wrong doings and those who do them , I only give the meek my energy , not the tyrrants .

:cool:

[tracker]

were in this position because we offload our responsibility for our part in creation to leaders.

absoluety outstanding comment !:cool:

[lauren_almighty]

We shouldn't be letting such negativity bring us down. How many times have we all read a thread that says something along the lines of "I am miserable and I don't want to live in this world anymore blah blah blah...." There is no point hearing about the shit that is happening and letting it affect us whilst in the meantime do nothing about it. If we all thought positive then it will be easier to fight against it. Anybody who is letting the negativity wear them down is just going to feel like giving up and not be motivated to help make a change even though that is what they want.

(I hope that makes sense. I'm rubbish at putting my thoughts into words and I've just woken up.)

[tracker]

You can know that stuff is going on in the world, and you can empathise with the people it is happening to, but don't dwell on the base energy level where it is happening.
Lift your energy level to one of 'knowing' that all is well; a high vibration of energy will attract more and more of the same. Snowball effect. Imho :).

yep , very much what I am trying to say here , thank you .

we can see things happen or know about them , we can do something about them

but we must not dwell on the baselevel of them .

thank you .:)

[weeme]

We shouldn't be letting such negativity bring us down. How many times have we all read a thread that says something along the lines of "I am miserable and I don't want to live in this world anymore blah blah blah...." There is no point hearing about the shit that is happening and letting it affect us whilst in the meantime do nothing about it. If we all thought positive then it will be easier to fight against it. Anybody who is letting the negativity wear them down is just going to feel like giving up and not be motivated to help make a change even though that is what they want.

(I hope that makes sense. I'm rubbish at putting my thoughts into words and I've just woken up.)

I agree Lauren. That is why we need a bit of humour every now and again.

[tracker]

We shouldn't be letting such negativity bring us down. How many times have we all read a thread that says something along the lines of "I am miserable and I don't want to live in this world anymore blah blah blah...." There is no point hearing about the shit that is happening and letting it affect us whilst in the meantime do nothing about it. If we all thought positive then it will be easier to fight against it. Anybody who is letting the negativity wear them down is just going to feel like giving up and not be motivated to help make a change even though that is what they want.

(I hope that makes sense. I'm rubbish at putting my thoughts into words and I've just woken up.)


yes this is what i am saying here .

Could you imagine running your whole life around reality one in the OP ? :eek:

fk me you wouldnt go out , speek to people , talk on the phone , go on the internet , eat food , drink water :eek:

I am also rubbish at expressing what it is I am trying to say which is why at times I come across as a blunt trolling git .

You see , this thread , what with all the possative thoughts on it and how to express knowing how to do things when it counts , and things like , doing something about things but not dwelling on the energy base levels of those situations etc etc ( you have to read some of the comments on the other pages ) will help me make a good thread some time to help others .

from the OP , it might seem to others that I am saying that people here are nuts , well some are and I am one of them , but I create threads like this to gather attention .

it works ! lol.

good people come to it with good comments some times , and this helps me create a better thread some time .
I even apreciate the negatives , if thats what they can be called , not because I just want numbers of replies , but because I am an optomist and can see the use of all comments .

You comment here is good enough and makes sense .

I am glad that you got involed with this thread .

I am glad others have too , not forgetting , I am learning every time I come here .

it is why I do come here .

:)

[tracker]

I agree Lauren. That is why we need a bit of humour every now and again.

we do need to liven up a bit , have a laugh from time to time .

how many threads out there making folks smile ?

:cool:

[geewhizz]

Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .


When I was a small child, I used to think that there was a monster under my bed.

The monster never showed up?

[tracker]

I was thinking the same thing the other day, while sitting in my garden (sanctuary) that if I simply refuse to recognise or acknowledge the ghastly system, it might just... go away... and cease to exist, because I have denied it entry to my consciousness. :)

thats is how I started Velma , getting away from it all in an allotment and my garden .
I then got on to hobbies etc .

I am not saying it doesnt exist , but it doesnt affect my world any more .

If you read my big brother threads etc , you will see that I defo do not deny the big brother state of nazi fascists that rule

but guess what ?

They do not hassle me any more , they can no longer make me feel funny or control my life
mainly because
other than this thread , they only live in other peoples minds and life now , not mine , and this is why they can no longer affect me .

Even David Icke has said this to his viewers , that big brother and all the elite can not affect him because he refuses to give them his energy .

people might read his books , they might listen to his interviews and shows and vids , but they do not take in the information he gives .

:)

[lauren_almighty]

yes this is what i am saying here .

Could you imagine running your whole life around reality one in the OP ? :eek:

fk me you wouldnt go out , speek to people , talk on the phone , go on the internet , eat food , drink water :eek:

I am also rubbish at expressing what it is I am trying to say which is why at times I come across as a blunt trolling git .

You see , this thread , what with all the possative thoughts on it and how to express knowing how to do things when it counts , and things like , doing something about things but not dwelling on the energy base levels of those situations etc etc ( you have to read some of the comments on the other pages ) will help me make a good thread some time to help others .

from the OP , it might seem to others that I am saying that people here are nuts , well some are and I am one of them , but I create threads like this to gather attention .

it works ! lol.

good people come to it with good comments some times , and this helps me create a better thread some time .
I even apreciate the negatives , if thats what they can be called , not because I just want numbers of replies , but because I am an optomist and can see the use of all comments .

You comment here is good enough and makes sense .

I am glad that you got involed with this thread .

I am glad others have too , not forgetting , I am learning every time I come here .

it is why I do come here .

:)



+1

That's why I come here too - to learn. :)

[tracker]

When I was a small child, I used to think that there was a monster under my bed.

The monster never showed up?

NAH ? that was me :D

I understand what you are saying though , just trying to put some humor in to this thread lol.:D

[cosmo1]

yep , very much what I am trying to say here , thank you .

we can see things happen or know about them , we can do something about them

but we must not dwell on the baselevel of them .

thank you .:)

Thanks for your opening post too tracker.:)

You sound like you are really fed up - i've been reading your other thread re twitter.
You're not usually 'down' are you?
You're always going to get a diverse mix anywhere you go - it's human nature. This is where you've got to lift your energy and not let it drag you down; not easy i know.
Live and let live cause it doesn't matter in the long run; they're only words, and there's a whole different way of life once you lift your energy :).

[tracker]

+1

That's why I come here too - to learn. :)


read my comment to Velma , its just above this post ^^^^^^^^ you made .


:)

[radio illuminati]

I agree. My life is also very peaceful even-though I listen to Alex jones every day and is 100% committed to deal with New World Order.

I think in solutions and how to navigate though hell. It is like being in a chaotic death road and if we just look at the traffic and figure out how to steer towards freedom then things will be all right. Many things indicate that we are simply being tested on our soul. Judged for our actions or lack of them. Everything is exactly how it should be and reality is a mirror of our selfs. When we hit a roadblock it is only because we have a weak spot we have avoided to deal with for too long. It is "reality" trying to tell us to get our act together.

What ever they do we are free if we seek that mindset and we can find solutions to what ever crape they come up with.

[tracker]

Thanks for your opening post too tracker.:)

You sound like you are really fed up - i've been reading your other thread re twitter.
You're not usually 'down' are you?
You're always going to get a diverse mix anywhere you go - it's human nature. This is where you've got to lift your energy and not let it drag you down; not easy i know.
Live and let live cause it doesn't matter in the long run; they're only words, and there's a whole different way of life once you lift your energy :).

my other thread on twitter ?

:eek:



:D


which one ?


lol.

[lauren_almighty]

thats is how I started Velma , getting away from it all in an allotment and my garden .
I then got on to hobbies etc .

I am not saying it doesnt exist , but it doesnt affect my world any more .

If you read my big brother threads etc , you will see that I defo do not deny the big brother state of nazi fascists that rule

but guess what ?

They do not hassle me any more , they can no longer make me feel funny or control my life
mainly because
other than this thread , they only live in other peoples minds and life now , not mine , and this is why they can no longer affect me .

Even David Icke has said this to his viewers , that big brother and all the elite can not affect him because he refuses to give them his energy .

people might read his books , they might listen to his interviews and shows and vids , but they do not take in the information he gives .

:)

That's how I choose to live too. There's no point in letting all the bad stuff get you down and ruin your life. Some people may think that we are choosing to be ignorant whilst all this stuff goes on but even if we acknowledged it, the only difference it would make is to us.

I agree that people listen to David Icke but they don't pay attention to the advice that he gives out.

[cosmo1]

my other thread on twitter ?

:eek:



:D


which one ?


lol.

No sorry, i meant your thread on here; 'David Ickes forum = twitter :o:D

Doh! I see it was done back in Feb and i haven't quite reached the end of it; beg pardon double :o

[tracker]

I agree. My life is also very peaceful even-though I listen to Alex jones every day and is 100% committed to deal with New World Order.

I think in solutions and how to navigate though hell. It is like being in a chaotic death road and if we just look at the traffic and figure out how to steer towards freedom then things will be all right. Many things indicate that we are simply being tested on our soul. Judged for our actions or lack of them. Everything is exactly how it should be and reality is a mirror of our selfs. When we hit a roadblock it is only because we have a weak spot we have avoided to deal with for too long. It is "reality" trying to tell us to get our act together.

What ever they do we are free if we seek that mindset and we can find solutions to what ever crape they come up with.

yes , yes , yes , definately that !

:)

[tracker]

No sorry, i meant your thread on here; 'David Ickes forum = twitter :o:D

Doh! I see it was done back in Feb and i haven't quite reached the end of it; beg pardon double :o

No its OK , you made me panic and laugh at the same time , so all is good .

well , I made my self panic , you made me laugh , at the same time its quite a feeling lol.

Yes , this forum is becoming like twitter .

even face book at times .

it has become -------------------------petty .

we should all be spreading the knowledge of how energy affects our reality and how our focus attracts situations to us etc etc .

if we do not , this forum becomes like all the rest , dull , boaring , and not in to spreading truth that matters .

there are so many media type hype threads now that it is destroying it.:)

[tracker]

That's how I choose to live too. There's no point in letting all the bad stuff get you down and ruin your life. Some people may think that we are choosing to be ignorant whilst all this stuff goes on but even if we acknowledged it, the only difference it would make is to us.

I agree that people listen to David Icke but they don't pay attention to the advice that he gives out.

yep , too true .

we can acknowledge things , but that does not change anything id at that time we are unable to do anything about it .

we must learn to let go at times too .

sometimes all we can do , is act when we can , but learn to let go too .

is my opinion .

:)

[mr stoppitall]

When I was a small child, I used to think that there was a monster under my bed.

The monster never showed up?

So the fear you had was not real?
This fear was the start of your manifestation.

I am not saying the beast existed, I am saying that your fear itself was the beast. How this fear may have manipulated your choices and your true potential.

Without it, your reality could be very different right now.
Reality as I understand opens like the endless pattern within a fractal, all based on choice, the more your choices can be manipulated by external stimuli the further away from your true reality you become, yet you still exist within a construct of the moment.

Realise what power you behold and choose to relenquish the key to your own self created dungeon.

[tracker]

So the fear you had was not real?
This fear was the start of your manifestation.

I am not saying the beast existed, I am saying that your fear itself was the beast. How this fear may have manipulated your choices and your true potential.

Without it, your reality could be very different right now.
Reality as I understand opens like the endless pattern within a fractal, all based on choice, the more your choices can be manipulated by external stimuli the further away from your true reality you become, yet you still exist within a construct of the moment.

Realise what power you behold and choose to relenquish the key to your own self created dungeon.


yep , the film moster inc should cap that just fine .

mainly our own fear is the invisible monster in our rooms .

:cool:

[cosmo1]

No its OK , you made me panic and laugh at the same time , so all is good .

well , I made my self panic , you made me laugh , at the same time its quite a feeling lol.

Yes , this forum is becoming like twitter .

even face book at times .

it has become -------------------------petty .

we should all be spreading the knowledge of how energy affects our reality and how our focus attracts situations to us etc etc .

if we do not , this forum becomes like all the rest , dull , boaring , and not in to spreading truth that matters .

there are so many media type hype threads now that it is destroying it.:)

Lol re the panic.

As for the rest that's where the higher/baser energy can come in; you can see the threads/posts that you don't agree with but just leave it at that, don't even acknowledge it; move onwards and upwards.
It's the higher energy thing where hopefully if enough of it is spread around, eventually the um, 'irrelevant stuff will go away.

[tracker]

Lol re the panic.

As for the rest that's where the higher/baser energy can come in; you can see the threads/posts that you don't agree with but just leave it at that, don't even acknowledge it; move onwards and upwards.
It's the higher energy thing where hopefully if enough of it is spread around, eventually the um, 'irrelevant stuff will go away.

yes , thats why at times I take a break from forum things , then I can come back with some energy .


:)

[white horse]

OK , please read this thread before judging me on what I have to say .

Yes I have made the odd big brother thread .
Yes I have made many comments about reptilians , 9/11 , conspiracies , 2012 , and more .

BUT , it has just occurred to me .

Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .

SO


what reality do you want to live in ?

1 )
where the moon is full of aliens creating this false reality and we are being poisoned on every level.
paedophilia rules in the White House and parliaments.
humanity being poisoned by chem trails and aspartame.
Big brother is watching you in your homes and electronically harassing you .
Aliens eating children alive .
the TV is controlling your mind .
The world government is planning to kill us all in fema camps .
DRs want to kill you .
the devil runs this system ( more alien control )
people are all mind controlled .
Nazis have taken over .




OR

2 ) that it is all going to be OK . There is nothing to worry about .



Its up to you .

I know what reality I prefer .

Ive been there , seen loads , learned loads ,

but guess what ?

My big brother threads ? yes , well big brother does not bug me any more , reptilians don't come near me and my life is now peaceful , its quiet , and bliss .

do you know why ?

because I refuse to give those things my energy !

I no longer , through protest or compliance , give them any energy of my focus , other than creating this thread .

because


Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .


Now















its up to you .:)



May be , just may be , its not humanity that has to wake up
















IT'S YOU !:cool:

BINGO!!!

The Shawshank Redemption - YouTube


I am very very positive at the moment.

We would appear to have the very gates of hell ready to open and spew forth all the palgues of demons upon humanity, and yknow what I have never been more hopeful or positive about the future or happy about the present.

I'm not worried!

Why?

Cos - like you say, if we all collectively bring these things about in our minds, we will bring them about in reality.

I am focusing and concentrating on the lot of life of our family unit and making sure we are provisioned for today and provisioned for tomorrow. If I can manage that then mission accomplished.

I am trying to focus my energies on what I can control in my immediate environment.

So sure, it looks like millions of people may be on the verge of being rounded up and put in camps. I believe it is my duty to stop that! But I can't and I wont. If I stand up then I will end up in the same lot. So I will bow down and protect the family unit. I will fight them over this few square yards of ground.

Until they come knocking at my door, I will be trying to prepare to be an enemy of my own government.

Keep your mind focussed on your immediate reality tracker - it's all you can do. 'They' will need people like us - not to be on teh streets facing riot police and throwing stones when the NWO bring the hammer down - no - 'they' will need people like us to stay alive and remain active and keep 'this reality' alive in our heads. Humanity will not shirk off the NWO in the traditional way of running street battles. We will only win when humanity changes its own reality inside its own heads.

If you understadn that you are a long way towards controlling your own future!

It aint easy!

[jesusistruth]

I think it is sad that Icke is promoting this "salvation" mindset. Makes me think if he isn't a disinfo agent.

If you act like a sheep, you are a sheep, regardless of what you think and say.

[energi]

I think it is sad that Icke is promoting this "salvation" mindset. Makes me think if he isn't a disinfo agent.

If you act like a sheep, you are a sheep, regardless of what you think and say.

Well that includes you then, baaa :D

[jesusistruth]

Well that includes you then, baaa :D

In what way? On tuesday I will be out of here.

[white horse]

In what way? On tuesday I will be out of here.

Is it the rapture this Tuesday already?

[seercirra]

sorry but.. bollocks. pretty thinking but no true application.

9/11 didnt occur because i thought it up.
we didnt go to war in iraq because it was all in our subconscious.

these things occured because of evil people that need to be stopped.

'the world is what you believe it is' is a bad cop-out. the world is what it is.

[radio illuminati]

Is it the rapture this Tuesday already?

Who says horses don't have great humor haha

[jesusistruth]

Is it the rapture this Tuesday already?

I'll be out of the system of oppression. I already am as I've quit the job and won't be asking for money, but on tuesday I'll have a take on my little adventure.

[tracker]

I'll be out of the system of oppression. I already am as I've quit the job and won't be asking for money, but on tuesday I'll have a take on my little adventure.


I wont say good luck , because when we do the right thing , eventually we get rewarded so ,

here's to you , well done .

:)

[hunter77]

OK , please read this thread before judging me on what I have to say .

Yes I have made the odd big brother thread .
Yes I have made many comments about reptilians , 9/11 , conspiracies , 2012 , and more .

BUT , it has just occurred to me .

Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .

SO


what reality do you want to live in ?

1 )
where the moon is full of aliens creating this false reality and we are being poisoned on every level.
paedophilia rules in the White House and parliaments.
humanity being poisoned by chem trails and aspartame.
Big brother is watching you in your homes and electronically harassing you .
Aliens eating children alive .
the TV is controlling your mind .
The world government is planning to kill us all in fema camps .
DRs want to kill you .
the devil runs this system ( more alien control )
people are all mind controlled .
Nazis have taken over .




OR

2 ) that it is all going to be OK . There is nothing to worry about .



Its up to you .

I know what reality I prefer .

Ive been there , seen loads , learned loads ,

but guess what ?

My big brother threads ? yes , well big brother does not bug me any more , reptilians don't come near me and my life is now peaceful , its quiet , and bliss .

do you know why ?

because I refuse to give those things my energy !

I no longer , through protest or compliance , give them any energy of my focus , other than creating this thread .

because


Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .


Now















its up to you .:)



May be , just may be , its not humanity that has to wake up
















IT'S YOU !:cool:



IAM LIKING THE NEW POSITIVE TRACKER:)

people will debate how much we can create our own reality and how much we can truly change things around us, but i for one carry the same oppinion as you, being possitive and not getting bogged down in the day to day shit is the way forward:)

[tracker]

IAM LIKING THE NEW POSITIVE TRACKER:)

people will debate how much we can create our own reality and how much we can truly change things around us, but i for one carry the same oppinion as you, being possitive and not getting bogged down in the day to day shit is the way forward:)

thank you for that comment , it is taking time but I do tell the truth .

I am sure you might ( or others have ) seen my big brother threads and how they harrassed me , but they no longer do because they do not have my focus or energy .

David icke also said the same thing as to why big brother cant touch him .

they cant touch him because he isnt on the same wave length energy base level .

its a shame that people hear what he says but do not listen to him .


:)

[jesusistruth]

I wont say good luck , because when we do the right thing , eventually we get rewarded so ,

here's to you , well done .

:)

Yup, that's what the Nazis thought. :thumbsup:

Have a nice New World Order.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114538

[grenadene]

Researching conspiracies can be an isolating business and whilst being aware of global events can only set you in good stead, to make it a hobby in itself is not very healthy and leads to paranoia. Another thing that worries me is when the shit finally does hit our survival is not going to rest on being able to recite lists of attendees to the last 10 years of Builderberg meetings. Likewise it's a bit unhelpful if you know everything there is to know about Monsanto if you're not going to get your name down for an allotment. To me it's not about constantly adding to the academia it's about translating this into how I life my life....and being part of the solution not part of the problem :)

[energi]

In what way? On tuesday I will be out of here.

If you think Icke is a disinfo agent because of promoting a "salvation mindset", then I'd assume that you, as a christian, are... confused. I'd like to hear your thoughts on what he could be saying, according to you.

[jesusistruth]

If you think Icke is a disinfo agent because of promoting a "salvation mindset", then I'd assume that you, as a christian, are... confused. I'd like to hear your thoughts on what he could be saying, according to you.

Excuse me for a second.

ARE FUCKING STUPID? CAN'T YOU SEE MY AVATAR? COULD I MAKE IT ANY MORE CLEAR TO YOU THAT I AM AN APOSTATE!!!?


Now, David Icke has said that the way to end this all is not civil disobidience but to use the law of attraction and attract it. You just basically sit on your couch and dream of a better world, awaiting your "salvation".

I can find the sources if you need to.

[haukipesukone]

I think the forum should more like go to sleep. Since the less people spend time here, the more they seem to doing something worth while. At least that usually goes for me. So get the fuck out and do something.

I'm gonna go clean my apartment.

[energi]

Excuse me for a second.

ARE FUCKING STUPID? CAN'T YOU SEE MY AVATAR? COULD I MAKE IT ANY MORE CLEAR TO YOU THAT I AM AN APOSTATE!!!?


Now, David Icke has said that the way to end this all is not civil disobidience but to use the law of attraction and attract it. You just basically sit on your couch and dream of a better world, awaiting your "salvation".

I can find the sources if you need to.

Yes, I know that you are an apostate. You also have the nickname of "JesusisTruth", so you'll have to forgive me if I sound ignorant when associating you with other christians/christianity. Sorry :o

Putting that aside, I don't want to 'sit on my ass and wait for a better world' either ;).

Could you post those sources?

[lauren_almighty]

I think the forum should more like go to sleep. Since the less people spend time here, the more they seem to doing something worth while. At least that usually goes for me. So get the fuck out and do something.

I'm gonna go clean my apartment.

I'm gonna go out and do something. I spend way too much time on here. Thanks for the encouragement :p

[why_do_it_to_yourself]

Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .


Very true ;)


All of this whole thing that we all on this forum look into is all negative we then take on board this negative energy and give it power!




I do my bit when I can but I refuse to make my life on this stuff , epecially all the other stuff like , HAARP , the moon matrix , big brother , Nazis , bla bla bla bla bla -------------------can do ones mental health absolutey no good .

is what I am trying to get across .

:)


People get consumed in this whole thing I know I did a while back and OP ( nice thread BTW :)

I to

refuse to make my life on this stuff



Life is way to fucking short for all that :) ( well this one is and maybe the one before and most probably the next one will be )


:cool:

[jesusistruth]

Yes, I know that you are an apostate. You also have the nickname of "JesusisTruth", so you'll have to forgive me if I sound ignorant when associating you with other christians/christianity. Sorry :o

Putting that aside, I don't want to 'sit on my ass and wait for a better world' either ;).

Could you post those sources?

:)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058847855

At the end of the segment.

[seercirra]

there is no difference between 'Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth '

and


'im going to bury my head in the sand because i cant take it anymore and fantasize a better world because reality is too scary'

otherwise all it equates to is 'ignorance is bliss'.

sorry, i really dont mean any offense but thats the way i see it.

what is real, is real. not what you think is real.

if you make your own reality, you'd have never had a surprise in your life.
im sure youve had many surprises in your life. this is because you react to the world, not the other way around.

you cant change the world by putting blinkers on. you need to face the problems, accept them and try and work them through.

[the perfect one]

Excuse me for a second.

ARE FUCKING STUPID? CAN'T YOU SEE MY AVATAR? COULD I MAKE IT ANY MORE CLEAR TO YOU THAT I AM AN APOSTATE!!!?


Now, David Icke has said that the way to end this all is not civil disobidience but to use the law of attraction and attract it. You just basically sit on your couch and dream of a better world, awaiting your "salvation".

I can find the sources if you need to.


That really sounds like a joke. Are you joking? LOL

[princessofwands]

Great book on reality creating is by Frederick Dodson - Parallel Universes of Self.

Here are some relevant extracts -

p50 "Any event or circumstance is a door to different versions of that event, depending on the observer. Most people will perceive what the masses have agreed upon, but even among the individuals, the event will be interpreted and experienced many different ways." For any event that we participate in, we provide "the mood, the setting and its outcome" because we enter any event with "a preconceived belief which acts as an intention that creates the event".

p33 He teaches us to view the reality that we want, as if we were inside the image and it was already manifested. "Your viewpoint shifts from observer of the reality to observing from the reality. Act as you would act in that reality .... notice the shift and difference between the viewpoints of looking-at and looking-as".

Here's a reflection of what Icke says - p21 "It's impossible for others to enter your world if you haven't invited them by vibratory resonance (desire or resistance)."

The Law of Correspondence makes it all happen. p19 "Things you are neutral towards (neither desiring nor resisting) are not created/attracted. Everything you are afraid of, and everything you intend wholeheartedly, shows up eventually".

It's emotion that makes things manifest, either powerful emotion FOR or AGAINST something. I think this is why the PTB show us disaster movies like 2012, they want us to fear this reality, and therefore make it happen (for their own purposes). If you just look at conspiracy information but don't get worked up about it, you neutralise those events/conditions, you don't make more of it happen. But if you get outraged and pour loads of attention and expectation into those happenings, there's a real risk of more of it turning up.

p128
"Attention charged with desire - creates reality
Attention charged with resistance - creates reality
Neutral attention (uncharged attention) - does not create reality.

His book also contains a fascinating chapter called 'Personal Experiences in Magic' including his encounters with blue-skinned entities.

Truly a magical and inspiring book, contains so much more than I have time to type out.

The guy's website is here -

http://www.oceanofsilence.com/

:)

[the perfect one]

The Hollie Grieg story could have been on the front page of every Pommy paper by now if all the Brits in here had gotten together and written to every MP and the editors of all the papers, magazines, radio and TV stations and kept hammering away with 1/2 page letterbox drops (for less than 1c per copy) so that thousands or even millions of people knew what was going on. You have to lose all fear to do that. They have the power but fail to use it because fear stops them. No threats need to be made, no slander, no foul language. Just the truth. That would stop the rape of these young people.


I hear what you're saying. I don't get why people sit back and do nothing. But they'll spend tons of time n the net fighting about stuff. I guess it's not them being child abused. Maybe they could just think good thoughts about Holly and it will all go away. Sorry had to be sarcastic.

Part of this feel good energy thing is true but I dont think sitting around just thinking about how nice you want the world to be ,will make the bad guys stop doing what they do.

[the perfect one]

Great book on reality creating is by Frederick Dodson - Parallel Universes of Self.

Here are some relevant extracts -

p50 "Any event or circumstance is a door to different versions of that event, depending on the observer. Most people will perceive what the masses have agreed upon, but even among the individuals, the event will be interpreted and experienced many different ways." For any event that we participate in, we provide "the mood, the setting and its outcome" because we enter any event with "a preconceived belief which acts as an intention that creates the event".

p33 He teaches us to view the reality that we want, as if we were inside the image and it was already manifested. "Your viewpoint shifts from observer of the reality to observing from the reality. Act as you would act in that reality .... notice the shift and difference between the viewpoints of looking-at and looking-as".

Here's a reflection of what Icke says - p21 "It's impossible for others to enter your world if you haven't invited them by vibratory resonance (desire or resistance)."

The Law of Correspondence makes it all happen. p19 "Things you are neutral towards (neither desiring nor resisting) are not created/attracted. Everything you are afraid of, and everything you intend wholeheartedly, shows up eventually".

It's emotion that makes things manifest, either powerful emotion FOR or AGAINST something. I think this is why the PTB show us disaster movies like 2012, they want us to fear this reality, and therefore make it happen (for their own purposes). If you just look at conspiracy information but don't get worked up about it, you neutralise those events/conditions, you don't make more of it happen. But if you get outraged and pour loads of attention and expectation into those happenings, there's a real risk of more of it turning up.

p128
"Attention charged with desire - creates reality
Attention charged with resistance - creates reality
Neutral attention (uncharged attention) - does not create reality.

His book also contains a fascinating chapter called 'Personal Experiences in Magic' including his encounters with blue-skinned entities.

Truly a magical and inspiring book, contains so much more than I have time to type out.

The guy's website is here -

http://www.oceanofsilence.com/

:)


I just dont see this working for people who are being attacked by a violent criminal.

[the perfect one]

there is no difference between 'Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth '

and


'im going to bury my head in the sand because i cant take it anymore and fantasize a better world because reality is too scary'

otherwise all it equates to is 'ignorance is bliss'.

sorry.

what is real, is real. not what you think is real.

if you make your own reality, you'd have never had a surprise in your life.
im sure youve had many surprises in your life. this is because you react to the world, not the other way around.

you cant change the world by putting blinkers on. you need to face the problems, accept them and try and work them through.



Yup, facing reality .It's all nice and fluffy to be in denial on things,it's nice to pretend .Facing reality -It's kinda hard for a lot of people.

[tracker]

Yup, that's what the Nazis thought. :thumbsup:

Have a nice New World Order.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114538

hold on a mo , you say that you are going to do a right thing and taking on an adventure , i say well done and you insinuate i am like a nazi ?

help me out here ,

have we crossed wires ?


:)

[tracker]

Excuse me for a second.

ARE FUCKING STUPID? CAN'T YOU SEE MY AVATAR? COULD I MAKE IT ANY MORE CLEAR TO YOU THAT I AM AN APOSTATE!!!?


Now, David Icke has said that the way to end this all is not civil disobidience but to use the law of attraction and attract it.

and so with the laws of attraction you rant like a kid with no manners banging on about the laws of attraction .

you seriousely need to calm down .

for a guy who says jesus is truth , your actions as a believer is contradictory and descusting to relate your nature with his name !!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

:cool:

[tracker]

Researching conspiracies can be an isolating business and whilst being aware of global events can only set you in good stead, to make it a hobby in itself is not very healthy and leads to paranoia. Another thing that worries me is when the shit finally does hit our survival is not going to rest on being able to recite lists of attendees to the last 10 years of Builderberg meetings. Likewise it's a bit unhelpful if you know everything there is to know about Monsanto if you're not going to get your name down for an allotment. To me it's not about constantly adding to the academia it's about translating this into how I life my life....and being part of the solution not part of the problem :)


bang on it girl , well done !

so right .

:)

[dreamweaver]

OK , please read this thread before judging me on what I have to say .

Yes I have made the odd big brother thread .
Yes I have made many comments about reptilians , 9/11 , conspiracies , 2012 , and more .

BUT , it has just occurred to me .

Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .

SO


what reality do you want to live in ?

1 )
where the moon is full of aliens creating this false reality and we are being poisoned on every level.
paedophilia rules in the White House and parliaments.
humanity being poisoned by chem trails and aspartame.
Big brother is watching you in your homes and electronically harassing you .
Aliens eating children alive .
the TV is controlling your mind .
The world government is planning to kill us all in fema camps .
DRs want to kill you .
the devil runs this system ( more alien control )
people are all mind controlled .
Nazis have taken over .




OR

2 ) that it is all going to be OK . There is nothing to worry about .



Its up to you .

I know what reality I prefer .

Ive been there , seen loads , learned loads ,

but guess what ?

My big brother threads ? yes , well big brother does not bug me any more , reptilians don't come near me and my life is now peaceful , its quiet , and bliss .

do you know why ?

because I refuse to give those things my energy !

I no longer , through protest or compliance , give them any energy of my focus , other than creating this thread .

because


Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .


Now















its up to you .:)



May be , just may be , its not humanity that has to wake up
















IT'S YOU !:cool:

"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi.

[tracker]

If you think Icke is a disinfo agent because of promoting a "salvation mindset", then I'd assume that you, as a christian, are... confused. I'd like to hear your thoughts on what he could be saying, according to you.


funny ah ?

believe science and your wrong about laws of attraction yet christians want us to meditate on god only , the silence bliss .

I always find religouse folks ( not those who truly understand the words of god but ) who are religouse minded , always contradict them self .

:cool:

a true man or person of god and or follower of the king jesus christ would NEVER act the way that jesusistruth is acting right now .

they are descusting in their contradictory nature to relate thier actions and name avaata to the man and god they so try to think they represent .

its people like that , which gives believers a bad bad name !:cool:

[tracker]

I think the forum should more like go to sleep. Since the less people spend time here, the more they seem to doing something worth while. At least that usually goes for me. So get the fuck out and do something.

I'm gonna go clean my apartment.


:D

yes , it needs cleaning , or so THEY say :D

only joking , good comment though .

:)

[tracker]

there is no difference between 'Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth '

and


'im going to bury my head in the sand because i cant take it anymore and fantasize a better world because reality is too scary'

otherwise all it equates to is 'ignorance is bliss'.

sorry, i really don't mean any offense but thats the way i see it.

what is real, is real. not what you think is real.

if you make your own reality, you'd have never had a surprise in your life.
im sure you've had many surprises in your life. this is because you react to the world, not the other way around.

you cant change the world by putting blinkers on. you need to face the problems, accept them and try and work them through.


dont get me wrong , i am not saying that being ignorant is better , but then ignorant folk do have a better life .

we can ACT against oppression , ignorance and the NWO , but make it your life , and you HAVE----------NO--------------LIFE !
only a fight !

we have to learn to relax is what I am saying .

some of us here seriously need a hobby or two .

we can still act against a nwo , but I ain't making it my life ambition to fight for a fight that millions don't care about .

they will reap what THEY SEWE , and so will I .


I have not been born to make my whole life a fight .

that is my chioce , and so peaceful events shall come my way .

it is the laws of physics and attraction .

[tracker]

That really sounds like a joke. Are you joking? LOL


well done .

saw your thread , well done ! its a good thread and so true .

:)

[tracker]

Great book on reality creating is by Frederick Dodson - Parallel Universes of Self.

Here are some relevant extracts -

p50 "Any event or circumstance is a door to different versions of that event, depending on the observer. Most people will perceive what the masses have agreed upon, but even among the individuals, the event will be interpreted and experienced many different ways." For any event that we participate in, we provide "the mood, the setting and its outcome" because we enter any event with "a preconceived belief which acts as an intention that creates the event".

p33 He teaches us to view the reality that we want, as if we were inside the image and it was already manifested. "Your viewpoint shifts from observer of the reality to observing from the reality. Act as you would act in that reality .... notice the shift and difference between the viewpoints of looking-at and looking-as".

Here's a reflection of what Icke says - p21 "It's impossible for others to enter your world if you haven't invited them by vibratory resonance (desire or resistance)."

The Law of Correspondence makes it all happen. p19 "Things you are neutral towards (neither desiring nor resisting) are not created/attracted. Everything you are afraid of, and everything you intend wholeheartedly, shows up eventually".

It's emotion that makes things manifest, either powerful emotion FOR or AGAINST something. I think this is why the PTB show us disaster movies like 2012, they want us to fear this reality, and therefore make it happen (for their own purposes). If you just look at conspiracy information but don't get worked up about it, you neutralise those events/conditions, you don't make more of it happen. But if you get outraged and pour loads of attention and expectation into those happenings, there's a real risk of more of it turning up.

p128
"Attention charged with desire - creates reality
Attention charged with resistance - creates reality
Neutral attention (uncharged attention) - does not create reality.

His book also contains a fascinating chapter called 'Personal Experiences in Magic' including his encounters with blue-skinned entities.

Truly a magical and inspiring book, contains so much more than I have time to type out.

The guy's website is here -

http://www.oceanofsilence.com/

:)

very good post here ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^:cool:

[tracker]

"You must be the change you wish to see in the world." - Gandhi.

exactly .

I am glad that you have not missread my OP like others here who have INTERPERATED it for their own ends to insinuate that I am saying we should ignore it , because that is not what I am saying .
yes we should act , yes we should spread truth
but let this whole thing in every subject rule your life and life becomes a fight and not a good experience .

many people have come to this thread and seen what it is I am saying just like you have , but as you can easily see , it doesnt take much to spot the trouble minded ones .
one can see how they fill their minds .
mainly with problems .

:)

[jesusistruth]

hold on a mo , you say that you are going to do a right thing and taking on an adventure , i say well done and you insinuate i am like a nazi ?

help me out here ,

have we crossed wires ?


:)

Maybe I misunderstood you, but you said

"I wont say good luck , because when we do the right thing , eventually we get rewarded so ,"

And I thought you were mocking the rather uncomfortable situation you end up in when you decide not to pay tax and use the government's money.

Also look up 'apostasy' in your dictionary.

[rydeon]

You can know that stuff is going on in the world, and you can empathise with the people it is happening to, but don't dwell on the base energy level where it is happening.
Lift your energy level to one of 'knowing' that all is well; a high vibration of energy will attract more and more of the same. Snowball effect. Imho :).

That is a cool post cosmo!
Well said.

[the perfect one]

well done .

saw your thread , well done ! its a good thread and so true .

:)

Thanks I worked hard to get what info I could before they caught on to me. I'm trying to save my immediate family and I have learned a lot on here and came a long ways in a short time. I hoped that my story woudl help others and also help me. It did help me . Thanks for taking the time to read it. :)

[the perfect one]

exactly .

I am glad that you have not missread my OP like others here who have INTERPERATED it for their own ends to insinuate that I am saying we should ignore it , because that is not what I am saying .
yes we should act , yes we should spread truth
but let this whole thing in every subject rule your life and life becomes a fight and not a good experience .

many people have come to this thread and seen what it is I am saying just like you have , but as you can easily see , it doesnt take much to spot the trouble minded ones .
one can see how they fill their minds .
mainly with problems .

:)

I get it , I do . I think parts are very true -like trying to be a more positive person in the world. I guess we can still be positive while helping the abused people of the world,without ignoring the problems at the same time.

[tracker]

I get it , I do . I think parts are very true -like trying to be a more positive person in the world. I guess we can still be positive while helping the abused people of the world,without ignoring the problems at the same time.

My problem was orignally big brother and the local councils hounding my life , playing games with my income .

they use banks etc to get at you too .

they stopped my tax credit payments with out any notice , upped my bills at the same time and then played cat and mouse games upon me making it hard for me to get my tax credits , pay my bills etc etc and all the time the amount owing got bigger .

in the end

i had to let go of it all .

I just stopped worrying about it
laughed it off
told them that they have to sort it out between them selves .

in the end

i was left alone .

why ?

because I stopped dancing to their tunes .

when we let them go in our minds , situations then come about to show us what and when to do things to make it stop .


I know , and if you look at my profile and go through my threads you will see that I am not telling any jokes or lies , even though Im sure you are not saying it , im just saying it for other viewers to do that .

I am not joking , when we stop dancing to their tunes , they have to dance to them self , they soon find some one else to do it on .
eventually , they will only have them self to sing and dance with , providing every one just stops dancing to their tunes that is .

lol , if only I knew then what I know now .

:)

[zone2012]

Fantastic! :)
Well, what are we waiting for?

[tracker]

Fantastic! :)
Well, what are we waiting for?


lol ,

Im about to go off line now and relax ,

i have been doing this for a while now , just having what I call easy time .

easy time = never rushing things
never thinking I HAVE TO DO such and such
or
I have to go there or i am late for such and such .

when we force life , it fights back

when we relax and take it in our stride , life becomes pleasent .

lol , have a good night folks


have some easy time , only do something -----------when you feel like it .

:)

[haukipesukone]

because I stopped dancing to their tunes .

when we let them go in our minds , situations then come about to show us what and when to do things to make it stop .


I know , and if you look at my profile and go through my threads you will see that I am not telling any jokes or lies , even though Im sure you are not saying it , im just saying it for other viewers to do that .

I am not joking , when we stop dancing to their tunes , they have to dance to them self , they soon find some one else to do it on .
eventually , they will only have them self to sing and dance with , providing every one just stops dancing to their tunes that is .

lol , if only I knew then what I know now .

:)

I'm gradually stopping the dancing too. The hard part is to learn to dance to your own tune. I have to find it, and I'm not good at music.


Did sort of clean my apartment... not completely yet, but if the apartment is too messy it can really make that tune go crappy.

[cosmo1]

That is a cool post cosmo!
Well said.

Thank you rydeon :)

[cosmo1]

lol ,

Im about to go off line now and relax ,

i have been doing this for a while now , just having what I call easy time .

easy time = never rushing things
never thinking I HAVE TO DO such and such
or
I have to go there or i am late for such and such .

when we force life , it fights back

when we relax and take it in our stride , life becomes pleasent .

lol , have a good night folks


have some easy time , only do something -----------when you feel like it .

:)

That is so true! I have been putting this into pracitse for the last few months and it's incredible how much more 'flow' you get in your life; really mellow :D

[tracker]

I'm gradually stopping the dancing too. The hard part is to learn to dance to your own tune. I have to find it, and I'm not good at music.


Did sort of clean my apartment... not completely yet, but if the apartment is too messy it can really make that tune go crappy.


I have always told people , if they want to START to make a real change in their life , other than starting in their own mind set , they must 1st start with their bed room lol.

why ?

because it is the 1st room they wake up in every day .
it is a reminder every day .
it can either remind them that nothing has changed

or

if cleaned out , from all clutter and mess , can remind them that an instant change has taken place .

no , cleaning ones room does not change ones life

but does it ?

no mess = easy movement
saves time in the future when looking for things

and also

shows the person every day that a change has taken place .=======

==========================================


its all good for the psyche .

:)

[tracker]

That is so true! I have been putting this into pracitse for the last few months and it's incredible how much more 'flow' you get in your life; really mellow :D

YEP !

Me too , and it works .

:)

[white horse]

When I was a small child, I used to think that there was a monster under my bed.

The monster never showed up?

Yeah but did it have an effect on you as a small child? Did you lie awake 'worrying' about the monster under your bed?

If you did then that monster was clearly there (whether you 'saw it' or not) because it had an effect on you!

See how this thing works?! :D

I was reading a story about a battle in a Norse saga somewhere - a band of Vikings were on a beach when another ship rolls up. One of the Vikings recognises the ship from another raid - it is a band of warriors even more fearsome than the Vikings themselves. The Viking who recognised htem told his comrades that they were so fierce they were undefeatable, probably used magic to win fights, and that it was folly to even attempt to fight; so they all laid down their swords and rpepared to die.

The monster under the bed.

You can make it real!

(While they were being cut down one of the Vikings rememberd a moral story about never giging up or something - so he struck his sword out. When his fellow Vikings saw that their opponents could actually be wounded with swords, they stood up and fought back driving them back to their boat.)

[haukipesukone]

I have always told people , if they want to START to make a real change in their life , other than starting in their own mind set , they must 1st start with their bed room lol.

why ?

because it is the 1st room they wake up in every day .
it is a reminder every day .
it can either remind them that nothing has changed

or

if cleaned out , from all clutter and mess , can remind them that an instant change has taken place .

no , cleaning ones room does not change ones life

but does it ?

no mess = easy movement
saves time in the future when looking for things

and also

shows the person every day that a change has taken place .=======

==========================================


its all good for the psyche .

:)

Agreed. Too much mess can make your thoughts bounce from one object to another so that you can't focus on any single thing. But then too clean and clinical isn't good either, not that I would have to worry my apartment being too clean.

Like they say even the greatest journey starts with a single step, and a million begins with a penny. Cleaning up the whole world starts with your room.

[white horse]

Agreed. Too much mess can make your thoughts bounce from one object to another so that you can't focus on any single thing. But then too clean and clinical isn't good either, not that I would have to worry my apartment being too clean.

Like they say even the greatest journey starts with a single step, and a million begins with a penny. Cleaning up the whole world starts with your room.

Maybe I should do that tonight... :)

[explorer]

What luxury - If I pretend nothing is happening then it's not happening thats fine if you are not living in the Congo, Iraq, Afganistan, Dafur, Paraguay, Haiti inmate of guantanamo, in fact anywhere where there is not mass murder, and abuse going on.

Lucky old us to be able to choose 'our reality'

This is Eckhart Tolle brainwashing

[seanx]

OK , please read this thread before judging me on what I have to say .

Yes I have made the odd big brother thread .
Yes I have made many comments about reptilians , 9/11 , conspiracies , 2012 , and more .

BUT , it has just occurred to me .

Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .

SO


what reality do you want to live in ?

1 )
where the moon is full of aliens creating this false reality and we are being poisoned on every level.
paedophilia rules in the White House and parliaments.
humanity being poisoned by chem trails and aspartame.
Big brother is watching you in your homes and electronically harassing you .
Aliens eating children alive .
the TV is controlling your mind .
The world government is planning to kill us all in fema camps .
DRs want to kill you .
the devil runs this system ( more alien control )
people are all mind controlled .
Nazis have taken over .




OR

2 ) that it is all going to be OK . There is nothing to worry about .



Its up to you .

I know what reality I prefer .

Ive been there , seen loads , learned loads ,

but guess what ?

My big brother threads ? yes , well big brother does not bug me any more , reptilians don't come near me and my life is now peaceful , its quiet , and bliss .

do you know why ?

because I refuse to give those things my energy !

I no longer , through protest or compliance , give them any energy of my focus , other than creating this thread .

because


Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .


Now















its up to you .:)



May be , just may be , its not humanity that has to wake up
















IT'S YOU !:cool:

Excellent post, mate. Inspiring.

[grenadene]

What luxury - If I pretend nothing is happening then it's not happening thats fine if you are not living in the Congo, Iraq, Afganistan, Dafur, Paraguay, Haiti inmate of guantanamo, in fact anywhere where there is not mass murder, and abuse going on.

Lucky old us to be able to choose 'our reality'

This is Eckhart Tolle brainwashing

Ignoring things is not what anyone is suggesting, it's about making a positive confident contribution and not letting fear of what might happen, prevent you from doing what you can. Fearful and paranoid people are easily manipulated and controlled.....AND most importantly are not much opposition. Seriously, no one is suggesting we become blissfully ignorant.... more like powerfully aware :)

[explorer]

'My big brother threads ? yes , well big brother does not bug me any more , reptilians don't come near me and my life is now peaceful , its quiet , and bliss'

Quoting seanx


I understand this argument and powerfully aware is important but its the above quote which is dangerous. Living in fear is also counter productive. But this new wave of thinking seems to involve waking up and then going back to sleep again.

I had a good listen to Eckhart Tolle (endorsed by Oprah) who seems to be a main propeller of this kind of thinking and very nearly fell for it myself.

As I said this kind of thinking is a luxury. The majority of people on the planet do not have that choice.

I do believe in the power of the collective conscious but I think this approach is fully rooted in the individual ego.

[the perfect one]

What luxury - If I pretend nothing is happening then it's not happening thats fine if you are not living in the Congo, Iraq, Afganistan, Dafur, Paraguay, Haiti inmate of guantanamo, in fact anywhere where there is not mass murder, and abuse going on.

Lucky old us to be able to choose 'our reality'

This is Eckhart Tolle brainwashing
Ah, a new name to look up. So it is a form of brainwashing. I can understand thinking positive and how that helps but I agree we cannot live in fantasy world because it just dont work that way. What is real- is real -no matter what.

Think good thoughts people but dont turn your back on reality.

[energi]

About Eckhart Tolle, I'd like to add a personal anecdote of mine:

When I was trying to articulate stuff like "living in the now" or "energies, maaaaaan!" to a psychology student - we actually hit a brick wall until I asked her if she had read Eckhart Tolle.

Surprised and flabbergasted, she said yes and asked me if I had heard of him through watching Oprah.

I said no. ;)

[xpleet]

Ok I won't focus on the ruling elite and the NWO so they don't exist in my reality but I let them take over the world in the meantime :D

Genius plan, let's tell the New-Age community!

[white horse]

Ok I won't focus on the ruling elite and the NWO so they don't exist in my reality but I let them take over the world in the meantime :D

Genius plan, let's tell the New-Age community!

Exactly!!

If everyone in the world 'ignored' the NWO and their nefarious schemes then what world would there be to take over? :D

[twenty4hell]

That is like putting your head in the sand, ignoring it will not make it go away..

[curtaincat]

That is like putting your head in the sand, ignoring it will not make it go away..

I bet you have not read through this whole thread, or anything else by Tracker, otherwise, you would not post something like that.

( but as you said, twenty4hell, you are into putting your head in the sand.... my advice is to search for posts by Tracker, it will change your head in the sand attitude and will be really good for you. :)

So, start searching and learning :) , you will be glad you did! :cool:

[twenty4hell]

I bet you have not read through this whole thread, or anything else by Tracker, otherwise, you would not post something like that.

( but as you said, twenty4hell, you are into putting your head in the sand.... my advice is to search for posts by Tracker, it will change your head in the sand attitude and will be really good for you. :)

So, start searching and learning :) , you will be glad you did! :cool:

hehe i can admit that i only read the 1st page, will take your advice :D

[curtaincat]

hehe i can admit that i only read the 1st page, will take your advice :D

excellent , twenty4hell, u will not regret it, Tracker has the best advice and will really help you , if you really want to learn stuff.

Read the whole thread, then search for Tracker's stuff. He is the man! He has done the walk, so he has the right to talk the talk, ( but he is super kind and friendly, u will luv him :) ) :cool:

So glad u want to live and learn, smiles galore. :):):)

[blackstar76]

I agree. I only have a bed in my room and a sword on the wall that my best friend gave me. Two lamps a phone and a fan. I also hear that removing things like that ie phones,clock is better for you. Anything electrical can screw up your sleep. I may remove them.

I am just a neat freak by nature. I am more relaxed when things are in order. I also have too much free time on my hands.lol.

[rusticformer]

Its the system that is the problem that is where theys things are happening, in the system.

We really need to stop giving the system our energy.

Every time you pay your taxes, or bend to its will you are giving it energy.

you are supporting tyranny every time you fund it with your energy.

Also projecting hate towards it is another way of funding it, negative thoughts and feeling manifest into reality as negative events, its kind of self perpetuating.

If you want it to stop. Dont fund it.
Instead put your energy into projecting Love and harmony from the holographic blue print of your soul. This is a holographic universe, if you wish to change things you must start from the source.

Love. and best wishes.

[pessi_optimist]

It is not about ignoring what is happening in the world, and if i were to use my intelligence and rationale to judge by the OP's original post, then he was not saying that either.

Go to the 'Today's News' forum. It is one of the worst places on the internet to go, purely because of the garbage that is written there. Almost everything i read there is put into the negative sense-whether it be a financial thread, or immigration, or political, extra terrestial, and so on. It seems people are completley resigned to the shit storm coming and are only focused on the damage it'll cause and how to survive it. It's 100% negative. And with this mentality, only 100% negativity will come to us. It's just a fact. Most are focuse entirely on what bad is happening, and never on anything good. And there are good things happening.

Whenever we say we must fight against something, it is negative. Peodophilia in whatever circumstance cannot be fought against, it cannot be eradicated through new laws, through protest or petitioning. Peodophilia is one fraction of whole entity of evil. This 'evil', whatever it is, wherever it originates from, will not be vanquished through fear-mongering, or hate, or aggression, or through any sort of tension whatsoever. I'm not a new age dipshit, some, maybe even most of them are doing more harm than good with their fluffy wankery, but i thoroughly believe what i just wrote.

[decode reality]

OK , please read this thread before judging me on what I have to say .

Yes I have made the odd big brother thread .
Yes I have made many comments about reptilians , 9/11 , conspiracies , 2012 , and more .

BUT , it has just occurred to me .

Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .

SO


what reality do you want to live in ?

1 )
where the moon is full of aliens creating this false reality and we are being poisoned on every level.
paedophilia rules in the White House and parliaments.
humanity being poisoned by chem trails and aspartame.
Big brother is watching you in your homes and electronically harassing you .
Aliens eating children alive .
the TV is controlling your mind .
The world government is planning to kill us all in fema camps .
DRs want to kill you .
the devil runs this system ( more alien control )
people are all mind controlled .
Nazis have taken over .




OR

2 ) that it is all going to be OK . There is nothing to worry about .



Its up to you .

I know what reality I prefer .

Ive been there , seen loads , learned loads ,

but guess what ?

My big brother threads ? yes , well big brother does not bug me any more , reptilians don't come near me and my life is now peaceful , its quiet , and bliss .

do you know why ?

because I refuse to give those things my energy !

I no longer , through protest or compliance , give them any energy of my focus , other than creating this thread .

because


Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .


Now















its up to you .:)



May be , just may be , its not humanity that has to wake up
















IT'S YOU !:cool:

Tracker, that's exactly the point I arrived at.

[shiny]

a big +1 from me!

what i've been thinking lately is that there are several groups of people in the world, esp approaching 2012 (in order of size...)

1) people that are completely ignorant to what's going on and believe what the media and governments tell us.

2) people that are focusing on what's wrong with the world (and there is a lot that's wrong), they are working on exposing the truth, breaking down the current systems of control, waking up the people in group 1 to what's really going on.

3) people that are focusing their energies on manifesting positivity in the world- healers, visionaries, artists, lightworkers. There aren't enough of these people imo, because our thoughts and feelings do shape our experience and reality and for this reason they shouldn't be paying attention to what's wrong in the world.

Of course, some people are a mixture of 2 and 3, I count myself as one. Every now and then I delve into this forum, read about all the shite that's going on with the nwo and various conspiracies, etc. But what I'm feeling is that it lowers my energy and creates this underlying tension (fear?) that takes a while to shake off. So what I've decided to do is to try to move fully into no 3 and not pay attention or give my energy to negativity.

I think that perhaps if enough people do this, we'll raise the vibration of the planet to such a degree that negativity and negative people can't reside. This, in a way, is what I think 2012 (or thereabouts) is all about. Theres another thread here about time getting faster, what I think is happening is that the rate of manifestation is getting faster, so we're seeing the result of our thoughts and feelings come back to us a lot quicker. Perhaps we'll be forced to focus on the positive otherwise we'll create an even shittier shitstorm than the one we're in now.

so... say no to negativity!

[kitler]

OK , please read this thread before judging me on what I have to say .

Yes I have made the odd big brother thread .
Yes I have made many comments about reptilians , 9/11 , conspiracies , 2012 , and more .

BUT , it has just occurred to me .

Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .

SO


what reality do you want to live in ?

1 )
where the moon is full of aliens creating this false reality and we are being poisoned on every level.
paedophilia rules in the White House and parliaments.
humanity being poisoned by chem trails and aspartame.
Big brother is watching you in your homes and electronically harassing you .
Aliens eating children alive .
the TV is controlling your mind .
The world government is planning to kill us all in fema camps .
DRs want to kill you .
the devil runs this system ( more alien control )
people are all mind controlled .
Nazis have taken over .




OR

2 ) that it is all going to be OK . There is nothing to worry about .



Its up to you .

I know what reality I prefer .

Ive been there , seen loads , learned loads ,

but guess what ?

My big brother threads ? yes , well big brother does not bug me any more , reptilians don't come near me and my life is now peaceful , its quiet , and bliss .

do you know why ?

because I refuse to give those things my energy !

I no longer , through protest or compliance , give them any energy of my focus , other than creating this thread .

because


Reality is what we make it , there is no denying it .

what we believe is real , such is the truth .

our energy flows where our focus goes , such is physics .


Now















its up to you .:)



May be , just may be , its not humanity that has to wake up
















IT'S YOU !:cool:

For the past year I have been imagining a reality where council tax doesn't really need to be paid. Then last week a man turned up at my door with a van which he said he was going to use to imagine a reality where I didn't have any furniture. Go figure.

[freedom1st]

For the past year I have been imagining a reality where council tax doesn't really need to be paid. Then last week a man turned up at my door with a van which he said he was going to use to imagine a reality where I didn't have any furniture. Go figure.

Brilliant!

[impermanence]

For the past year I have been imagining a reality where council tax doesn't really need to be paid. Then last week a man turned up at my door with a van which he said he was going to use to imagine a reality where I didn't have any furniture. Go figure.

:D

[seanx]

Kilter wrote:

For the past year I have been imagining a reality where council tax doesn't really need to be paid. Then last week a man turned up at my door with a van which he said he was going to use to imagine a reality where I didn't have any furniture. Go figure.

Sorry, MR Kilter but you know that is rubbish.

The law of conscious creation as highlighed by icke and others is
nothing like this simplistic rubblish of just imaging what you want and expecting to get it.

You know that it involves allowing yourself to uncover the belief
patterns that you hold consciously and unconsciously.

if you took the time, the persistence and the discipline required for
example in understanding what BELIEFS you hold about the
availability of money - and then allied these new BELIEF PATTERNS with
images of yourself succeeding financially - you wouldn't have to
worry about the council tax or any tax!!

[cultofexperience]

Kilter wrote:



Sorry, MR Kilter but you know that is rubbish.

The law of conscious creation as highlighed by icke and others is
nothing like this simplistic rubblish of just imaging what you want and expecting to get it.

You know that it involves allowing yourself to uncover the belief
patterns that you hold consciously and unconsciously.

if you took the time, the persistence and the discipline required for
example in understanding what BELIEFS you hold about the
availability of money - and then allied these new BELIEF PATTERNS with
images of yourself succeeding financially - you wouldn't have to
worry about the council tax or any tax!!



So it's your own darn fault for being poor you stupid losers! You just don't know how to think right.

The only attitude adjustment that brings in more money is being willing to do whatever it takes to get some.

[white horse]

I'm dead tired and need to go to bed right now! I'll go through this thread a bit closer later and leave some comments. Some people have got it, but are finding it difficult to put into words. Other people are leaving flipant comments that only prove they have not understood what is being said here - either they really don't get it, or they are being immature and pretending they don't understand! (Actually - the latter is no bad thing. Let's not loose our sense of humour here! We gottta still take the piss out of each other, and ourselves right! :D )
example.
For the past year I have been imagining a reality where council tax doesn't really need to be paid. Then last week a man turned up at my door with a van which he said he was going to use to imagine a reality where I didn't have any furniture. Go figure.

this comment made me laugh, really funny, glad you posted it, glad I took you off ignore to read it! ;) but I trust this isn't your closing argument but just a humourous knee-jerk reply?!?! :D Funny as it is you know it is not as straight forward as just 'wishing' - ;like Icke said, realising the matrix is not real but is created by us all moment by moment in a group hallucination, does not just mean you can 'think really hard' then get home to find a Ferrari in your garage or a million in your account. It will happen if you 'want' it enough - but it wont just go 'ping' in a flash of smoke and appear suddenly. But it will appear one day...

VEry important point tracker - and it has repercussions for everything in our reality both personally and universally.

Too tired right now, i'll try to add more later - cos this is a path I have put a lot of thought into this year... let's discuss!

[pessi_optimist]

So it's your own darn fault for being poor you stupid losers! You just don't know how to think right.

The only attitude adjustment that brings in more money is being willing to do whatever it takes to get some.

Not true, in my experience. I wasn't getting paid, but then i realised i would like more money, and that i would have more money, and i put it to the test. Now i'm receiving money in one way or the other from people and it's srt of streaming in. I'm not pimpin', nor hustlin', working for most of it, but i'm getting more money than i've really worked for. Now i know it's possible, and this is only a small example. Now i'm gonna give something back to those who sent these bills my way, and those who have helped me out. That is the key imo. Pay your dues. But i'm not going to do anything to hurt other people to have money. Being poor for the sake of being poor is not noble. It's only money, a stupid manufactured piece of crap that means nothing, but having it in our world does give you a bit of breathing space, materially speaking.

A kid living in a slum cannot be held accountable for being born into poverty, it's pretty much an inescapable prison-But those of us who are fortunate not to have endured that in our lives don't really have any excuse to sit around complaining about being poor. We can attract that, or we can attract $$$, it really is a matter of choice. But in the end, money is totally insignificant.

[ladygoogoo]

Ok my retort is
since WHEN has the idea or thought it's all going to be ok
worked when you look at history.
There are cycles, up and down, sometimes and often repeating.
We are trying to BREAK free of our programming not drill deeper into
it. You want to go stick your head in the sand go for it.
The powers that be will be very happy to hear that.

It's more complicated than that. One alone can do very little.
we all have to wake up and gather our ideas thoughts beliefs
together to make the swing lurch toward freedom from the
constraints of the overlords who control this planet and everyone on it.

I don't think everything is "OK". I hope we will all realize we need
to get our act together and create a world more in alighment with
universal truth rather than the ugly one we have now.
But just expecting it all to be ok really strikes me as pollyanna-ist.
We're here to inform ourselves, discuss, and see what rings true
or not.

Your philosophical meandering will not be best seller material anytime soon.
So you go about your business and tell us we are all wasting our time.

I have had a lot of experiences to know that we are living in a critical
time in human history and we are all being called to do what we can
to make this world better by ACTION and if we are not capable of that
then to resist the NWO and control mechanisms that are leading us
toward despotism.

[pessi_optimist]

Of course, some people are a mixture of 2 and 3, I count myself as one. Every now and then I delve into this forum, read about all the shite that's going on with the nwo and various conspiracies, etc. But what I'm feeling is that it lowers my energy and creates this underlying tension (fear?) that takes a while to shake off. So what I've decided to do is to try to move fully into no 3 and not pay attention or give my energy to negativity.



I think this is a very noble action.

We know this planet is ruled, we know we are being fucked. By what? By whom? Why? Conspiracy theorists will not answer these for you, they will only give you more questions and you will be chasing your own tail. So really the only thing left to do is learn the true meaning of love, and how to give it, and not be distracted by Reptilians or economics. You live in that world and you will not leave it. And it is a sad, lonely, and dark world to inhabit

[white horse]

Not true, in my experience. I wasn't getting paid, but then i realised i would like more money, and that i would have more money, and i put it to the test. Now i'm receiving money in one way or the other from people and it's srt of streaming in. I'm not pimpin', nor hustlin', working for most of it, but i'm getting more money than i've really worked for. Now i know it's possible, and this is only a small example. Now i'm gonna give something back to those who sent these bills my way, and those who have helped me out. That is the key imo. Pay your dues. But i'm not going to do anything to hurt other people to have money. Being poor for the sake of being poor is not noble. It's only money, a stupid manufactured piece of crap that means nothing, but having it in our world does give you a bit of breathing space, materially speaking.

A kid living in a slum cannot be held accountable for being born into poverty, it's pretty much an inescapable prison-But those of us who are fortunate not to have endured that in our lives don't really have any excuse to sit around complaining about being poor. We can attract that, or we can attract $$$, it really is a matter of choice. But in the end, money is totally insignificant.

Positive Mental Attitude:

I spent 5 years sitting alone in a room with suicidal depression.

I decided to change my life and improve it; within two weeks I had moved house, got a job, and got a girlfriend.

Tune your energies into the frequencies of the cosmos and you can do anything and make anything happen. It aint easy, it takes mental discipline and patience. I am still pissing around on the peripheries. But since climbing out of depression I have slowly accumulated everything into my life sphere that I have wanted. I have done this by focussing on things step at a time.

It all sounds so obvious when I type it. But thankfully I am past the stage of screaming up at teh cosmos cos thiings have gone wrong. You have to focus inwardly and task your energies to making things go right. (Having said that it is so hard to keep them negative waves in check when you are out on the street. Seems the entire environment is engineered to prevent you from entering your true mind-state when you go out. Hmmmmm..... :(

It is not yet complete, and I am about to embark on a Big Plan. Using the techniques I have mustered, and the research I have done, it is time to embark on the biggy - a life's ambition - can I realise it?? If I could choose one thing, if I have one wish...

Well then - let's wish for it and then follow that wish to the end! :)

[pessi_optimist]

Positive Mental Attitude:

I spent 5 years sitting alone in a room with suicidal depression.

I decided to change my life and improve it; within two weeks I had moved house, got a job, and got a girlfriend.

Tune your energies into the frequencies of the cosmos and you can do anything and make anything happen. It aint easy, it takes mental discipline and patience. I am still pissing around on the peripheries. But since climbing out of depression I have slowly accumulated everything into my life sphere that I have wanted. I have done this by focussing on things step at a time.

It all sounds so obvious when I type it. But thankfully I am past the stage of screaming up at teh cosmos cos thiings have gone wrong. You have to focus inwardly and task your energies to making things go right. (Having said that it is so hard to keep them negative waves in check when you are out on the street. Seems the entire environment is engineered to prevent you from entering your true mind-state when you go out. Hmmmmm..... :(

It is not yet complete, and I am about to embark on a Big Plan. Using the techniques I have mustered, and the research I have done, it is time to embark on the biggy - a life's ambition - can I realise it?? If I could choose one thing, if I have one wish...

Well then - let's wish for it and then follow that wish to the end! :)

I wish for it too, if it's what you want.

What specific avenues did you research in? I'm trying to find a lead into something

[seanx]

Cultfor experience wrote:
So it's your own darn fault for being poor you stupid losers! You just don't know how to think right.

The only attitude adjustment that brings in more money is being willing to do whatever it takes to get some.

it has nothing to do with thinking right. Read icke's tales of the time loop
if you actually want to understand what we are talking about

And yes, you are responsible if you are poor and broke.

Who else but you could be responsible?

Most of us are doing it unconsciously - but we are still responsible.

We need to wake up to the law of conscious creation

[relentless]

So it's your own darn fault for being poor you stupid losers! You just don't know how to think right.

The only attitude adjustment that brings in more money is being willing to do whatever it takes to get some.


Whatever it takes to get some?:eek::cool:

[relentless]

Positive Mental Attitude:

I spent 5 years sitting alone in a room with suicidal depression.

I decided to change my life and improve it; within two weeks I had moved house, got a job, and got a girlfriend.

Tune your energies into the frequencies of the cosmos and you can do anything and make anything happen. It aint easy, it takes mental discipline and patience. I am still pissing around on the peripheries. But since climbing out of depression I have slowly accumulated everything into my life sphere that I have wanted. I have done this by focussing on things step at a time.

It all sounds so obvious when I type it. But thankfully I am past the stage of screaming up at teh cosmos cos thiings have gone wrong. You have to focus inwardly and task your energies to making things go right. (Having said that it is so hard to keep them negative waves in check when you are out on the street. Seems the entire environment is engineered to prevent you from entering your true mind-state when you go out. Hmmmmm..... :(

It is not yet complete, and I am about to embark on a Big Plan. Using the techniques I have mustered, and the research I have done, it is time to embark on the biggy - a life's ambition - can I realise it?? If I could choose one thing, if I have one wish...

Well then - let's wish for it and then follow that wish to the end! :)

Well done for getting back on that horse :)

[white horse]

I wish for it too, if it's what you want.

What specific avenues did you research in? I'm trying to find a lead into something

I'll write more later cos I am really flagging with a triple hang-over that needs to be killed!! Lol!

It's Not really just one school of specific thought; it has been more about recognising the processes and the patterns.

Recovering from depression was 3+ years ago now. Literally overnight, as quickly as it had happened, it vanished. I wake up one morning, and my first thought was "I'm bored of derpession". I had had 'false dawns' before but this one felt different. Before, in an attempt to get better, had tried to change things but just ended up thrashing randomly aroun dwith no purpose.

This time I decided to take each day as a new day. And try to achieve one positive action that added something.

So for instance - re-write CV. I don't care if the house brns down. Today I will re-write my CV.

Or clean the kitchen.

Or apply for five jobs today.

Forget all of lifes other issues. and concentrate on accomplishing that one task. For someone recovering from severe depression, the fabric of their life after 5 years is in tatters! It is hard to focus. But just pick one thing at a time, one day at a time, give yourself day's off and rewards.

Before you know it you are sitting down one night laughing out loud to yourself trying to remember how shit life was two weeks ago. :D Then it just goes on improving.

When bad shit hits - as it invariably does - DONT PANIC! - pause, assess and think about the problem. There is always a way. There is always a way. These events are your opportunity to come out ahead. For every bad thing there will be a good thing to balance it and vice versa. So look for the good in the bad cos it will be there. It's just a question of perspective and point of view.

OK then, I didn't want to do this now cos it will come out in an unorganised drivel;

Let's look at some 'techniques';

The Historian - Greates thing I ever did was study history. I absorbed it voraciously at school college and university. I was fortunate to have extraordinary teachers early on. I was also lucky to be born in October making me a cast iron down the line Libran.

Personally this is like a perfect storm for me! Trust me whne I say i can agree and disagree with an academic argument at the same time. I can also promote an idea that I disagree with. This is because I can seperate from the ego and look at things from any point of view - it has taken great training to be able to do this, and not many people can do it. So I am pleased, because it means I can become a dispassionate Vulcan at times when others let emotions make decisions.

This is a personal skill that needs development, augmented by a natural talent... :)

Skills gained by historians primarily teach you how to focus on information.

The Corporate

I've spent many years working in large corporations. There is an emourmous internal market for 'personal development' training where employees can pick up all kinds of techniques to improve themselves and their current skills. Some of them are 'touchy-feely' other approaches are more hard-core managment training. They all have certain elements in common.

Manifesting your thoughts - for example, on these types of course you will be asked to act out or role play certain sittuations; you will also be encouraged to write things down; very often you will create a 'mind-map' of a situation. All these activities are putting the first physical manifestations of the idea into reality. So, for instance, you might do an exercies of a list of wishes; on one of the wishes you wished for a red sofa. The exercise is you have to write down 'Red Sofa' on a piece of paper each day and carry it around with you; you will have a red sofa within 15 days.

What these courses all have in common is the message that you can very subtely bend the cosmos around you very very slightly in your immediate locale. By writting things down in these various ways, you are keeping a reminder to yourself and the cosmos; writing is an extremely powerful tool that is totally misunderstood by linguists but fully comprehended by occultists! An occultist will tell you that writting something down is the first step on the road to moting it so!

It is claimed that repeating a word or phrase 8 times in succession burns it into the memory.

These corporate managment programmes are a goldmine for psyological clues to this game; they delve into neurology and psychology, even headology to find out how people's minds work so that the tricks and traps can be exploited. This is also the main apporach for Sales and Marketting in a more cynical way. (*spit)

The Occultist - Occultism, Magic, Mysticism, all work on the personal goals model same as the Corporate. The occultist works on methods that can bend the local cosmos by force of will. Writing things down, in spells, and spell books, is a part of the rituals, and in fact many things are not written down because of the understanding of the power of the written word. The Occultist recognises that once something is thought about, it becomes reality, but once something is written down it becomes manifest. The trick is on controllign and manipulating the manifestation to see it through to closure, or else the manifestation may evaporate.

Wiccas write spells down to reinforce there strength and augment the spoken word. Spells are often written down and burnt as part of a ritual.

I have cast roughly half a dozen 'spells' in my life - they have all manifested themselves. The trick I have looked for is to move away from rituals and develop it as a permanent mind-set... Which is the path I am on now... (synchronicity with your post there tracker!! :cool: )

Let me give you an example, very trivial, but good example. I had arranged with friends to go for a pic-nic, but we were totally skint (not like just got no money, this was when things were real bad and was more than a few occassions would go without food for 24hrs or more due to lack of funds. Bad bad fucking times!), so we resigned to not bothering. It turned out to be a beautiful day - so that morning I performed a spell.

Later on, I was absent mindedly walking the house when I noticed 2 pc monitors stuck away in a corner; I had totally forgotten about them, they had been there for eons; I'd stopped noticing them ages ago. BINGO!

i took them down the local 'robbing shop' and got a tenner for them!! We went out and had an awesome picnic on that tenner and a truly wonderful day.

I know how a lot of people may react to that story. But that knee-jerk reaction prevents you from understanding the underlying pattern. The spell did not create soemthing from fresh air. The monitors were already 'in existance'. But they had perhaps begun to slip out of existence as I had totally phased them from my conscious mind. I was truly surprised when I noticed them and spent a few bewildered moments trying to remember where they had come form a few years before!

What the spell had done, was put the task of getting money for a picnic at the top of the day's priorities. It also, if you beleive this, (and that is the journey we are on here at this thread, this forum, this cosmos) put a reminder to the cosmos - like sticking a post-it-note on the cosmos' desk. Your request is in the cosmic frontal consciousness.

(I once also performed a complex ritual/spell that had the lifespan of a year. It was half way thru that year that I 'recovered', moved house, got a job, a partner' etc, and by the end of the year I had allowed my concentration on the spell to pretty much wain away because the main 8 of the 12 'wishes' had come off and I was happpy with that!! )

Cosmic Ordering - While I was recovering from depression I was struck by Noel Edmunds talking about Cosmic Ordering.

Basically you ask the cosmos for something. You write it down on a piece of paper. That's it.

Noel Edmunds asked to be back on telly. Within 12 months he was presenting Deal or No Deal.

Ask and ye shall receive.

I ask a lot, all the time. Generally I do get what I ask for (which is true isn't it... ask yourself deep down). When I don't get it - if you examine it there is often a good reason why not. Asking for small things though at the mo...

Madonna apparantly used Cosmic Ordering. It is apparantly similar to methods in celeb fads like Kabala and Scientology. Using your will to act upon the cosmos, and developing techniques to do so.

Scott Adams (Dilbert) has said that when he wants something he will write it down for 15 days on the trot. He said everything he has asked for has come true, and he is a multi-millionare comic strip writer, which is what he wanted to be!!

Self Determination

At the start of this year, I decided, inwardly, to make changes in my life. 3 years after the end of depression, we have at last create a foundation to live life upon. However, as the plan was to give a solid bed-rock, it was accomplished, so it now remains solidly static! Now we are stronger, and (hopefull!) wiser, we want to move onwards and upwards.

So at the start of the year I started to put directed thoughts into process. Targetting specific elements that 'need sorting' in our lifes and generally improving things all round; focussing on the specifc aims and goals. Sometimes taking detailed steps to make thigns happen, sometimes it just flows your way after thinking about it for a while. It will just appear.

Everything I have targetted has become manifest. so far!!

I am still a low novice. I am still missing lots of signs. But I am slowly tuning in. Beginning to recognise the patterns, develop the tools and techniques, practise the skills. I am in the process of now of flexing and preparing for a couple of very big 'asks'. I need to 1) get the question right and 2) make sure I want it... :)

You'll have to forgive me but I am very cagey about my own life. Partly because I am intensley private; partly becasue some of these things are still on-going and I don't want to diveulge them until they are complete.

I am no longer just randomly running my life. There is now a directed plan. Need to put the training into practis and do the plan!!


***********
- o and btw way, thanks for wiching for it too... :) it really is my one single dream. I decided at the start of this year to make it happen... so... it means a lot!

[white horse]

Well done for getting back on that horse :)

Thank you :)

[tracker]

WHITE HORSE , some brilliant insights here coming from your experience .

Mine was a 4 year deep depression and I too was alone with nothing , not a home , money , let alone even my self .
Like you I got it together .

Do you know what though ?

I would go through it all again .

mainly because , waking up to it all , yes was frightening at times what with synchronocity happening and me mistaking it and getting parranoid , but it was also the most exiting time of my life too .

If life repeats it self over and over , if we live the same life again , what an exiting time I am in for .
what a brilliant ride its going to be .

with out me going through what I did , I would never have learned what I know now .

:)

[john white]

Well its the old ostrich head in the sand business, isn't it?

If we choose not to percieve things, we have the relief of not perceiving them, but we also forgo the ability to influence the things we choose not to be aware of

Ignorance is certainly bliss: but ignorance also has little to do with any "awakening", whether for the human race or for the individual

Which obviously includes yourself Tracker

Not to say all things we think may be true are true: that's very unlikey

However, hiding what we think is true from ourselves is little more than comforting oneself about what we would rather not see

The Cypher and Steak scene from the Matrix also springs to mind

I prefer to be aware of what may be and learn to live with it instead

[cosmo1]

Well its the old ostrich head in the sand business, isn't it?
If we choose not to percieve things, we have the relief of not perceiving them, but we also forgo the ability to influence the things we choose not to be aware of

Ignorance is certainly bliss: but ignorance also has little to do with any "awakening", whether for the human race or for the individual

Which obviously includes yourself Tracker

Not to say all things we think may be true are true: that's very unlikey

However, hiding what we think is true from ourselves is little more than comforting oneself about what we would rather not see

The Cypher and Steak scene from the Matrix also springs to mind

I prefer to be aware of what may be and learn to live with it instead

It's not that at all; many of you are missing the point - and not reading posts or not understanding them.

Not one of us has said anything about 'hiding what we think is true'. And as far as i can make out from the positive posts, we are aware and we are living with it, but trying to do so on a higher energy level.

What good does it do anyone at all to angst or bemoan or hate; that feels to me like indulging ones own emotions - which only adds to the negative soup of the planet.

Not for me. :)

[john white]

It's not that at all; many of you are missing the point - and not reading posts or not understanding them.

Not one of us has said anything about 'hiding what we think is true'. And as far as i can make out from the positive posts, we are aware and we are living with it, but trying to do so on a higher energy level.

What good does it do anyone at all to angst or bemoan or hate; that feels to me like indulging ones own emotions - which only adds to the negative soup of the planet.

Not for me. :)

ah well if we are talking extremes of imbalance...

Of course its no good to be lost in paralysis at the darkness of the world

Neither is it any good to be lost in self inflicted deafness

That's the whole point:

Its tough

It's a life long challenge to be the best one can be, to forgive oneself for all ones failings, to face oneself openly and honestly, which can only mean painfully

But that is what Freedom requires

To wilfully put oneself into a "see no evil" trance is nothing more than a failure: a failure to be understood and got past: or forever remain entrapped in self imposed limitations

It also means being responsible for what one believes and doing one's own thinking

But that doesn't mean saying to oneself "oh evidence for mass child abuse, I'm going to pretend I didn't know about that so it doesn't exist in my reality": or any one of a thousand horrors that do go on and can't get better as long as "good" people allow themselves to be co-opted into doing nothing, and therefore furthering the aims of "evil"

[blah]

i agree 100% tracker which is why i rarely visit this board. its just awful at times. some people on here are full of bs and dont see it. forget the white house plenty of children in afghanastan getting abused my peodophiles thousands and thousands openly but will anyone on this board get off their butt and go there to do something about it , i doubt it. just moan moan moan... about the people in the white house. or what ever nonsense... And whats worse is the elite who are in the know and their watchers would be laughing at the type of things people say here and just see folk here as an interesting experimental lab rat thing, its more like sub culture tabloid stuff, plenty of half truths.

[ozpixie]

yep , very much what I am trying to say here , thank you .

we can see things happen or know about them , we can do something about them

but we must not dwell on the baselevel of them .

thank you .:)

Well put. Some of the respondents have got the idea that we are denying the reality of what is happening or that we think we can somehow wish it away which is not true.

[the perfect one]

i agree 100% tracker which is why i rarely visit this board. its just awful at times. some people on here are full of bs and dont see it. forget the white house plenty of children in afghanastan getting abused my peodophiles thousands and thousands openly but will anyone on this board get off their butt and go there to do something about it , i doubt it. just moan moan moan... about the people in the white house. or what ever nonsense... And whats worse is the elite who are in the know and their watchers would be laughing at the type of things people say here and just see folk here as an interesting experimental lab rat thing, its more like sub culture tabloid stuff, plenty of half truths.

But what are you doing about it ? You are now moaning about people who dont want to keep quiet. ;)

I understand about being positive, but did any of you think you can help/and be positive by exposing these child abusers- and that requires more then sitting around saying people are negative about the way the world is run and we should stop complaining and think good thoughts. Becasue you know damn well no one is doing anything. Not people who complain about it , not people who want only positive words and thoughts coming out of people's mouths.

No, it takes more then people just moaning or being in the "In my world there is no bad". mindset.

I have a thread about child abuse and all the horrible stuff you can imagine.

Do you know what was said to me on that thread? "In my world there is no bad".

Tell that to the kids. It's irresponsible to do either without actually doing something to make it come out positive.

[the perfect one]

Originally Posted by tracker View Post
yep , very much what I am trying to say here , thank you .

we can see things happen or know about them , we can do something about them

but we must not dwell on the baselevel of them .

thank you .

Tracker - I think you are a good person. I do understand what you are saying about dwelling on their baselevel. But what are you guys doing about any of it.?

I'm just curious ....if by not dwelling if this changes anything -other then people not dwelling on it.

I dont understand how it helps the kids?

[the perfect one]

Quite honestly I like you guys ,I'm not trying to be snotty . I want you all to know that. I'm just trying to figure out how exactly that helps the kids. Other then that -I understand about positive energy. :)

[lizard_monkey]

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[cosmo1]

ah well if we are talking extremes of imbalance...

Of course its no good to be lost in paralysis at the darkness of the world

Neither is it any good to be lost in self inflicted deafness

That's the whole point:

Its tough

It's a life long challenge to be the best one can be, to forgive oneself for all ones failings, to face oneself openly and honestly, which can only mean painfully

But that is what Freedom requires

To wilfully put oneself into a "see no evil" trance is nothing more than a failure: a failure to be understood and got past: or forever remain entrapped in self imposed limitations

It also means being responsible for what one believes and doing one's own thinking

But that doesn't mean saying to oneself "oh evidence for mass child abuse, I'm going to pretend I didn't know about that so it doesn't exist in my reality": or any one of a thousand horrors that do go on and can't get better as long as "good" people allow themselves to be co-opted into doing nothing, and therefore furthering the aims of "evil"

I'm not talking extremes, there's no need for it; balance is the thing.

Of course it's bloody tough - and painful, but it does get easier. You seem to get to a point where it just 'clicks'. You realise what you have been doing to yourself - and others - all these years and you think, bugger me, what a twit.

But even with all that, there are of course still times when the black dog comes a calling and the low energy tries to kick in but it's it easier now to 'rise above it' ;).

I haven't seen anyone say they put themselves in a 'see no evil trance'. And
I've seen lot's of 'good' people do heaps to help; they just do it on a higher energy level.

Again, balance is the thing.

I really don't know how else to put it; it's been said in so many posts on this thread, if you don't 'get it' theres nothing else to say. A lot of the other posts are more explanatory than mine i think.
And i really don't mean that in a pompous or condescending way :D.

[ozpixie]

WHITE HORSE , some brilliant insights here coming from your experience .

Mine was a 4 year deep depression and I too was alone with nothing , not a home , money , let alone even my self .
Like you I got it together .

Do you know what though ?

I would go through it all again .

mainly because , waking up to it all , yes was frightening at times what with synchronocity happening and me mistaking it and getting parranoid , but it was also the most exiting time of my life too .

If life repeats it self over and over , if we live the same life again , what an exiting time I am in for .
what a brilliant ride its going to be .

with out me going through what I did , I would never have learned what I know now .

:)

Many years ago now, I suffered terrible depression that required going to hospital because didn't realise that I stopped eating and drinking. I have to agree with everything you have said. Without that experience I would never have faced my black side and self but I do wish that there had been an easier way. It's also made it easier to understand other people as well and take time to try and fathom why they are being difficult or horrible etc. Being the family nutcase is no fun and decades there are a few who still whisper about it, and if I get passionate or upset about anything they all think ''oh here she goes again getting all worried''. Not that it stops me though because I agree with David when he says you cannot even begin to understand freedom until you stop worrying about what others will think.

[cosmo1]

But what are you doing about it ? You are now moaning about people who dont want to keep quiet. ;)

I understand about being positive, but did any of you think you can help/and be positive by exposing these child abusers- and that requires more then sitting around saying people are negative about the way the world is run and we should stop complaining and think good thoughts. Becasue you know damn well no one is doing anything. Not people who complain about it , not people who want only positive words and thoughts coming out of people's mouths.

No, it takes more then people just moaning or being in the "In my world there is no bad". mindset.
I have a thread about child abuse and all the horrible stuff you can imagine.

Do you know what was said to me on that thread? "In my world there is no bad".

Tell that to the kids. It's irresponsible to do either without actually doing something to make it come out positive.


I don't think anyone in this thread has said that; imo that is head in the sand behaviour.

It is impossible for an individual to 'heal the world' of course, but you do what you can - if you choose - but do it with a positive mindset. And i don't mean all hearts and flowers and fairy dust stuff; just in a balanced, positive way.

I'm repeating myself so i will shut up now :o, i can't say anymore than i have - or what others have written here :D.

[ozpixie]

Quite honestly I like you guys ,I'm not trying to be snotty . I want you all to know that. I'm just trying to figure out how exactly that helps the kids. Other then that -I understand about positive energy. :)

When you can get your 'head' in the right place you can become motivated to do more than type stern words onto a computer screen. Nobody that I am aware of has responded to my post about helping Hollie and all the other kids by actually taking physical action. The Brits in here have SO MUCH power to embarrass and humiliate these perpertrators. They have the power to say 'hey you guys in these snobby schools have to stop sodomising little boys as rite of passage into the world of the rich and powerful. Hey you TV and radio stations we aren't going to buy your advertised products until you do something, we won't buy your papers and magazines until you run a story. The list is endless. Right now the economy sucks despite what you read in the paper. We have reps in here begging and doing us deals and favours, but at the end of the day we have the power to say yes or no.

Over the past year and half, in our tiny little shop we have managed to take over 1/4million$$$ per year away from the big multinational food suppliers and give it back to small family or local businesses instead. That hurts them. They cannot just put us on a list and presume to have the business. Imagine if 100 more tiny little shops did that in just our State? Less GM crap, less imported garbage, more farms, less lording it over us with prices and minimum orders, more employment with employers who actually care.

Charity begins at home and in the old days the word charity meant love.

[noewhan]

You can know that stuff is going on in the world, and you can empathise with the people it is happening to, but don't dwell on the base energy level where it is happening.
Lift your energy level to one of 'knowing' that all is well; a high vibration of energy will attract more and more of the same. Snowball effect. Imho :).

+1.

I don't stress about certain topics. But no doubt, the people who are directly effected by certain topics, have every right to feel stressed or preach & try to wake more people.

Than again, if a comet was going to hit Earth & destroy it tomorrow, would you rather know about it? Or not know about it?

In one aspect, I'd rather not know because I'd probably freak out... But then again, I would probably just talk to my family & others - tell them I love them if I knew it was all gone soon.

And, as much as I dislike some theories they all have a role - and that is to interest people to look for answers themselves. Sometimes it gets to the point where there's to many theories so there has to be a new investigation.

[tracker]

Well its the old ostrich head in the sand business, isn't it?

If we choose not to percieve things, we have the relief of not perceiving them, but we also forgo the ability to influence the things we choose not to be aware of

Ignorance is certainly bliss: but ignorance also has little to do with any "awakening", whether for the human race or for the individual

Which obviously includes yourself Tracker

Not to say all things we think may be true are true: that's very unlikey

However, hiding what we think is true from ourselves is little more than comforting oneself about what we would rather not see

The Cypher and Steak scene from the Matrix also springs to mind

I prefer to be aware of what may be and learn to live with it instead

Ignorance is bliss including my self ?

are you on drugs or what ?

I am telling you , if you can understand English , that since I have refused to give those who had for over 10 years played games with my life , my energy , they no longer bug me , they can not bug me because I am not in their wave length any more .

can you understand those words ?

I was harassed for over ten years by local councils etc etc , and they used banks , large business , volunteer departments , tax departments , you name it , they played it on me .

but not any more , simply because I LET THEM GO !

you obviously have not read all my gang stalking and big brother threads have you ?

and since you have not I will let you in on something .

They are big , Illustrated , and very real indeed .
the amount of big brother threads I joined in on , the threads about gang stalking that I took part in

all very real .

why ?

because I have been there , so now who is looking IGNORANT ?

ITS YOU !

because you are unable to grasp the simple premise , that I have not as one might say beaten them , I have refused to acknowledge them as part of my life , which is why they are unable to get at me .

David Icke also says the same thing about why big brother and the PTB are unable to get at him for the same reasons .

funny ah ?

sounds like you have never read his books , and if you have , you have not taken in the information he gave you .

talk about being ignorant .

so , there you have it , you've jumped straight in head 1st , and taken a belly flop for your height of achievement .

[tracker]

Either way john white , if you wish to have hell as life you have it .

you have your life and I wil have mine .

whether you think this is ignorant or not is not my problem , its yours .

there you go , not only is your life filled with conspiracy , you can not even affect my descision .

ive been there , had enough of it , and now have a peaceful life .

you have your reality

Ill have mine .


:cool:

[tracker]

It's not that at all; many of you are missing the point - and not reading posts or not understanding them.

Not one of us has said anything about 'hiding what we think is true'. And as far as i can make out from the positive posts, we are aware and we are living with it, but trying to do so on a higher energy level.

What good does it do anyone at all to angst or bemoan or hate; that feels to me like indulging ones own emotions - which only adds to the negative soup of the planet.

Not for me. :)

Cosmo1

you are right about what you say here let alone you are also right about this not meaning we are putting our heads in the sand .

but

ignorant folks act like this cosmo1 , they do not gather the facts , they only see what they wish to see which is why they post crap like they do which has nothing to do with what we are saying .

let them make fools of them self ,

its their reality

not ours .:cool:

[tracker]

But that doesn't mean saying to oneself "oh evidence for mass child abuse, I'm going to pretend I didn't know about that so it doesn't exist in my reality": or any one of a thousand horrors that do go on and can't get better as long as "good" people allow themselves to be co-opted into doing nothing, and therefore furthering the aims of "evil"

do you know what John white

you are the only person saying ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^that .

not us .

this post of yours is a reflection of your reality

not mine .:cool:

I do my bit when the time is right and when these situations present them self to me .

since you say so much


why arent you doing anything about it your self ?


:cool:

[tracker]

i agree 100% tracker which is why i rarely visit this board. its just awful at times. some people on here are full of bs and dont see it. forget the white house plenty of children in afghanastan getting abused my peodophiles thousands and thousands openly but will anyone on this board get off their butt and go there to do something about it , i doubt it. just moan moan moan... about the people in the white house. or what ever nonsense... And whats worse is the elite who are in the know and their watchers would be laughing at the type of things people say here and just see folk here as an interesting experimental lab rat thing, its more like sub culture tabloid stuff, plenty of half truths.


^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^YEP ! EXACTLY !

IF THEY REALLY BELIEVED IT AND STOOD BY THEIR HYPOCRITICAL CRAP , THEY WOULD NOT HAVE TIME TO BE HERE .

THEY ARE FULL OF BULLSHITE !:cool:

[tracker]

Originally Posted by tracker View Post
yep , very much what I am trying to say here , thank you .

we can see things happen or know about them , we can do something about them

but we must not dwell on the baselevel of them .

thank you .

Tracker - I think you are a good person. I do understand what you are saying about dwelling on their baselevel. But what are you guys doing about any of it.?

I'm just curious ....if by not dwelling if this changes anything -other then people not dwelling on it.

I dont understand how it helps the kids?

WELL WHAT ARE YOU DOINF RIGHT NOW ABOUT IT ?

I see


NOTHING !

[tracker]

Quite honestly I like you guys ,I'm not trying to be snotty . I want you all to know that. I'm just trying to figure out how exactly that helps the kids. Other then that -I understand about positive energy. :)

this reality you keep bringing here

belongs to


YOU !

you keep naging on about how this helps kids .

so tell me already ,

how is all your replies helping them right now ?
how does

bringing your mind here and forcing upon us ,

none stop comments of pedos raping kids

help them ?

right now you are being hypocritical .

either get to work and do something about it now , since you believe it so much or stop being hypocritical and totally contradictory just for the sake of having an agruement .:cool:

[tracker]

Many years ago now, I suffered terrible depression that required going to hospital because didn't realise that I stopped eating and drinking. I have to agree with everything you have said. Without that experience I would never have faced my black side and self but I do wish that there had been an easier way. It's also made it easier to understand other people as well and take time to try and fathom why they are being difficult or horrible etc. Being the family nutcase is no fun and decades there are a few who still whisper about it, and if I get passionate or upset about anything they all think ''oh here she goes again getting all worried''. Not that it stops me though because I agree with David when he says you cannot even begin to understand freedom until you stop worrying about what others will think.

yep i was the family blacksheep as they once said so many years ago , and wow , did they make every one know about it .

I am currently writing a book about how to change reality based on my 18 years of abuse at home and in school experiences .
I dont care if it is a best seller or even if I have to pay outright and only publish two books .
( one for my self )
because success is not my ultimate happyeness , but happyness is the ultimate success .

It helped me much more when I woke up upon the facts , that not only must I not cooperate or give my energy to them , but also I had to ignora what people thought and said .
At one time , I even struck my family out of my life .

but that was then , not now , but I would still go through it again .

I wouldnt change a sinlge day .

:)

[tracker]

When you can get your 'head' in the right place you can become motivated to do more than type stern words onto a computer screen. Nobody that I am aware of has responded to my post about helping Hollie and all the other kids by actually taking physical action. The Brits in here have SO MUCH power to embarrass and humiliate these perpertrators. They have the power to say 'hey you guys in these snobby schools have to stop sodomising little boys as rite of passage into the world of the rich and powerful. Hey you TV and radio stations we aren't going to buy your advertised products until you do something, we won't buy your papers and magazines until you run a story. The list is endless. Right now the economy sucks despite what you read in the paper. We have reps in here begging and doing us deals and favours, but at the end of the day we have the power to say yes or no.

Over the past year and half, in our tiny little shop we have managed to take over 1/4million$$$ per year away from the big multinational food suppliers and give it back to small family or local businesses instead. That hurts them. They cannot just put us on a list and presume to have the business. Imagine if 100 more tiny little shops did that in just our State? Less GM crap, less imported garbage, more farms, less lording it over us with prices and minimum orders, more employment with employers who actually care.

Charity begins at home and in the old days the word charity meant love.

actually , thats not true about that young girl .

I did read your thread , AND I did physically do something about it .

A door to door campain person came here two days ago for the green party .
I asked her
"and what will the green party do about the massive cover up of Hollie Wells"

She claimed she had never heard of her .
so i told her never to knock on my door until the green party do something about it .
she wrote it down and did say she would get back to me on it .

bet she dont either !

anyway , I did not get involved on your thread , but I did do something .

you see , this is a prime example though of what many of us are saying to others here .

we can appear as though we are uninterested from their point of view , but that does not mean we do not act when we can .

thus ,
yes , i did something about it , but that was then , not now , right now , im here , writing on a chat forum .

I spend most of my days doing my allotment , writing a book , doing other things , and yes I have a bliss life

but

i still acted when the occasion presented it self to me .

thus , my life is still bliss , and unlike others who keep posting their bullshit here about heads in sand ( NOT YOU ) having a blissful life does not mean we are ignorant or none active to a good cause .

some people though just dont get it do they ?

:)

[cosmo1]

I don't know tracker; perhaps you have to experience this stuff for yourself before you 'get it'; maybe that is why some can't :confused:.

In the past i have thought as some of the others here have, but i did finally 'get it'.

Well done you - and white horse and ozpixie, and all the rest - for achieving what you have; really brave :cool:.
And i can relate to what you say about not changing a single thing.

We are the sum of all our parts and it is what makes us what we are today; i feel so fortunate :D.

Without being smug or up myself or anything like that. Just glad.

[noewhan]

This forum needs to get real and wake up?

That's a bit of a generalization, don't you think? Considering that people only know each other though text & sometimes get the wrong idea.

[ozpixie]

actually , thats not true about that young girl .

I did read your thread , AND I did physically do something about it .

A door to door campain person came here two days ago for the green party .
I asked her
"and what will the green party do about the massive cover up of Hollie Wells"

She claimed she had never heard of her .
so i told her never to knock on my door until the green party do something about it .
she wrote it down and did say she would get back to me on it .

bet she dont either !

anyway , I did not get involved on your thread , but I did do something .

you see , this is a prime example though of what many of us are saying to others here .

we can appear as though we are uninterested from their point of view , but that does not mean we do not act when we can .

thus ,
yes , i did something about it , but that was then , not now , right now , im here , writing on a chat forum .

I spend most of my days doing my allotment , writing a book , doing other things , and yes I have a bliss life

but

i still acted when the occasion presented it self to me .

thus , my life is still bliss , and unlike others who keep posting their bullshit here about heads in sand ( NOT YOU ) having a blissful life does not mean we are ignorant or none active to a good cause .

some people though just dont get it do they ?

:)

Thank you for the reply. I have never thought of you as a non-doer. Your OP proves that by itself. I have a friend here who is organising rallies and a petition to stop the Internet Censorship here and it has been such a huge slog for them but today a customer told me that he and his friends are also involved in the same thing so there are victories happening everywhere. People are becoming more aware and more willing to take risks. I reckon a blissful life is one where you know what's important and what isn't. Cheers and warm hugs :)

[tracker]

This forum needs to get real and wake up?

That's a bit of a generalization, don't you think? Considering that people only know each other though text & sometimes get the wrong idea.

agreed .

I could have taken my time a bit more and thought about how this all comes across.

:)

[tracker]

Thank you for the reply. I have never thought of you as a non-doer. Your OP proves that by itself. I have a friend here who is organising rallies and a petition to stop the Internet Censorship here and it has been such a huge slog for them but today a customer told me that he and his friends are also involved in the same thing so there are victories happening everywhere. People are becoming more aware and more willing to take risks. I reckon a blissful life is one where you know what's important and what isn't. Cheers and warm hugs :)

Thankyou for your kind comments back .

It is true , I am actually a bit of a "Have a go hero" even with coppers when they get out of order .

I just find , that at times , if we fill our minds with nothing but bad subjects , like all thoughts , they can accumulate , gather in what I call "Word and pattern associations" and sooner or later , can really play on ones mind .
Not forgetting this ; that we are what we do , and our actions are based upon our thought patterns .

This all sounds so protective and closed off , but it isnt really , its the truth .

yes I do what I can , and already have helped evict a pedo from our village .

I even help grannys across the road etc etc etc ,

but we MUST --------LEARN---------TO HAVE OUR OWN TIME TOO .

My reality is not one of fighting big brother anymore , it is really a blissful life .
Yes from time to time I get trouble minded by what I hear on radio or the Tv in the next room ( I hardly watch the crap ) but I realise , that WE must become the change we seek in this world , if we are unable to look after our own , how on earth can we help others ?

OWNING UP TO A POINT HERE ;
I could have written this OP better , Illestrated it more and thought carefully before making a wide sweeping comment for the title ,

but with peoples help on this thread , I can use these comments to make a better thread .

and I agree with you
having a blissful life is knowing about what is important and what is not

I will add to that ,

that it is also knowing when to act , when not too , beyond that my friend , Im here to enjoy my life .
42 , and its about time too lol.

:)

[the perfect one]

WELL WHAT ARE YOU DOINF RIGHT NOW ABOUT IT ?

I see


NOTHING !

Why are you so hostile to me.I'm just asking a question . I'm tryign to understand this . Also you have no idea how I have helped. You have never read my big thread in the members section. I've exposed a satanic family breeding operation within my own family. I have missing siblings and all sorts of mafia stuff going on. Chill please-You shoudlnt say I have done nothing because you really have no idea. K?-:)

[the perfect one]

this reality you keep bringing here

belongs to


YOU !

you keep naging on about how this helps kids .

so tell me already ,

how is all your replies helping them right now ?
how does

bringing your mind here and forcing upon us ,

none stop comments of pedos raping kids

help them ?

right now you are being hypocritical .

either get to work and do something about it now , since you believe it so much or stop being hypocritical and totally contradictory just for the sake of having an agruement .:cool:

Please ,I am not a troll and you dont even have a clue about what I really do. Dang, sorry I asked a question. Mr. negativity. Just take a deep breath and realize some people dont really understand what you are saying. It does not make me the enemy. I'm asking how it helps,and I really believe that you mean well, you just took me as being hostile to you and I'm not.I narked off my own family-now thats' doing something.:) I exposed a coverup of a missing person -been missing for 14 yrs. I exposed my family bloodline in the illuminati.I exposed corruption and mafia activities.I've done a lot.It's not really appreciated but I keep doing my work. I'm an investigator. It's a thank less job.

[the perfect one]

I don't think anyone in this thread has said that; imo that is head in the sand behaviour.

It is impossible for an individual to 'heal the world' of course, but you do what you can - if you choose - but do it with a positive mindset. And i don't mean all hearts and flowers and fairy dust stuff; just in a balanced, positive way.

I'm repeating myself so i will shut up now :o, i can't say anymore than i have - or what others have written here :D.

There- Cosmos answered what I thought it was about . I wasnt sure if we were talking put head in sand or not. Now I get it. It is simple. Do whatever but do it positively.

Tracker-Like I said before-I think you guys are ok, I wasnt trying to be snot nosed or trollish.

[jmmk]

I know people who tell me I'm being negative when I mention any
truths about the gov't , history, and subjects on this forum. Truths the
Puppet masters don't want you to know. I guess I was being too negative
when I was 5 yrs. old and the greys visited me and did what they wanted to.
Or people say-"Don't worry, Jesus will save us!" Moronic sheep submitting to
the sheepherders.

[verndewd]

the forum with some of the more practical intuitively aware people needs to wake up to what? Whats with the peer pressure bullying?

[jakemaverick]

bottom line is you can't change anything without power. in order to gain the necessary power you really have to sink to their level. pacifists do not win wars.

so it all boils down to what are you prepared to do?

[white horse]

the forum with some of the more practical intuitively aware people needs to wake up to what? Whats with the peer pressure bullying?

TBH I think it is more just Tracker's bombastic style. You get used to it. ;)

[hunter77]

i don't think some people are getting what trackers trying to say, he's not saying go back to being a sheep , forget about the nwo illiuminati ect.
he's trying to say as i understand it , don't let it rule your life and get you down.
now this may be easier said than done but is a step in the right direction imo. theres so much to do ,see, experiance,enjoy in this reality why get bogged down with all the negative stuff , take the positives and move with them.
ive put this into practice in my own life and it's been serving me very well.

now iam no tree hugging, love and light hippy, but ever since i have addopted this attitude my life has become imeasurabley better:)

[white horse]

Well its the old ostrich head in the sand business, isn't it?

If we choose not to percieve things, we have the relief of not perceiving them, but we also forgo the ability to influence the things we choose not to be aware of

Ignorance is certainly bliss: but ignorance also has little to do with any "awakening", whether for the human race or for the individual

Which obviously includes yourself Tracker

Not to say all things we think may be true are true: that's very unlikey

However, hiding what we think is true from ourselves is little more than comforting oneself about what we would rather not see

The Cypher and Steak scene from the Matrix also springs to mind

I prefer to be aware of what may be and learn to live with it instead

Seriously, halfway through your first sentence :rolleyes:

Where in this discussion have we entered ostrich sand heading onto the agenda?? :confused:

A while ago (mid depression) a friend of mine told me to stop watching the news. So I did for a week and I actually felt a lift. I stopped watching TV recently. I've never felt better inside my head. It is starting to ring crystal clear instead of fuzzy cotton wool. TV is the biggest mind control drug on the planet. It is used directly as a pysychological weapon and control mechanism... sheeet jw you've got a billion posts to your credit you know all this stuff.

It is about being aware of your perception of the universe. If you understand how others attempt to control your perceptions, then you can learn to control your own. Once you are in that position you can sense the 'programming' behind the veneer of reality. You can see patterns and mechanisms. You can also use those mechanisms and modify them... <<< that is the key... :cool:

I duck in and out of media land to check out what is happening. I have not watched anything on tv about the election at all. The only tv i have watched was motd reruns on tinterweb.

I try to limit my actual tube exposure time to lexx than 20mins a week. And certainly not more than 4 minutes at one time.

Head in sand? /Denied.

[white horse]

i don't think some people are getting what trackers trying to say, he's not saying go back to being a sheep , forget about the nwo illiuminati ect.
he's trying to say as i understand it , don't let it rule your life and get you down.
now this may be easier said than done but is a step in the right direction imo. theres so much to do ,see, experiance,enjoy in this reality why get bogged down with all the negative stuff , take the positives and move with them.
ive put this into practice in my own life and it's been serving me very well.

now iam no tree hugging, love and light hippy, but ever since i have addopted this attitude my life has become imeasurabley better:)

(I can't find the post), but I'm sure someone on here said about hiding from reality while kids are being abused in Afganistan and what are you going to do about it but sit at home bitchin, certainly not going to Afganistan.

Are you going to go to Afganistan??

And then what??

Huh??

Do you know what - what really nailed my depression was the fucking Iraq war. I travelled down to London once or twice a month, I 'fought' with Police in Parliament Square, Trafalgar Square, and many a confrontation along Whitehall and in Hyde Park. I was very active in the local peace groups and was firmly on the radar (getting followed by helicopter and coppers with video cameras...)

There were 3 enourmous national demonstrations in London in the lead up to the war, no one knows how many people were at teh biggest march but estimates have been agreed at around 1 MILLION PEOPLE <---- wish I coudl make that flash!

WE STILL WENT TO WAR! :mad:

And I retreated from life and sank deeper into a depression. Should i have gone to Iraq and doen more?!?!?! :confused:

It has taken some long hard (dark) years - I am now at a point where I am synthesising the enourmous amount of information and experience I have gained over the years, and if the theories are right, the best way for me to help people who are suffering all over the world is by remaining calm, focusing inwardly, and projectin gpositivity outwardly, where it ripples out and effects the area around you, promoting other entities in range to emit positive vibrations... and on... :)

If you are flooded with deep dark despair you aint gonna get a chance to fire up the ole positive waves and actually do some good.

I cannot affect events in iraq. Well maybe I can, but I can't figure out a way to. I've tried loads of stuff with that one. I gave up. Those fuckers want a war what the fuck am I gonna do about it?

That does not mean I thorugh my hands up in despair! It is a recognistion to focus on what I can change, in an intelligent and disciplined way to maximise any positivity. Come and visit us at the vegetable gardening thread where you'll find a load of DIFers who are helping and encouraging each other in our own backgardens - a space we can attempt to control.

By gardening in this way I am trying to beneficial to those around me. The kids get to understand and enjoy nature, they love it. They will benefit from the good food they eat from the garden. We are creating multiple safe haven zones for various creatures, and planting flowers all over the place. There might be a small business within bee flying range that is on the verge of going out of business, but thanks to our garden, (and the neighbours who have been inspired to plant lots of flowers too! :) ) we can provide a gold mine for bees!

The approach tracker is describing, and that some on here have clearly understood, provides unlimited ways you can improve things by starting with that infinitely small place inside you and working outwards... :)

[jakemaverick]

(I can't find the post), but I'm sure someone on here said about hiding from reality while kids are being abused in Afganistan and what are you going to do about it but sit at home bitchin, certainly not going to Afganistan.

Are you going to go to Afganistan??

And then what??

Huh??

Do you know what - what really nailed my depression was the fucking Iraq war. I travelled down to London once or twice a month, I 'fought' with Police in Parliament Square, Trafalgar Square, and many a confrontation along Whitehall and in Hyde Park. I was very active in the local peace groups and was firmly on the radar (getting followed by helicopter and coppers with video cameras...)

There were 3 enourmous national demonstrations in London in the lead up to the war, no one knows how many people were at teh biggest march but estimates have been agreed at around 1 MILLION PEOPLE <---- wish I coudl make that flash!

WE STILL WENT TO WAR! :mad:

And I retreated from life and sank deeper into a depression. Should i have gone to Iraq and doen more?!?!?! :confused:

It has taken some long hard (dark) years - I am now at a point where I am synthesising the enourmous amount of information and experience I have gained over the years, and if the theories are right, the best way for me to help people who are suffering all over the world is by remaining calm, focusing inwardly, and projectin gpositivity outwardly, where it ripples out and effects the area around you, promoting other entities in range to emit positive vibrations... and on... :)

If you are flooded with deep dark despair you aint gonna get a chance to fire up the ole positive waves and actually do some good.

I cannot affect events in iraq. Well maybe I can, but I can't figure out a way to. I've tried loads of stuff with that one. I gave up. Those fuckers want a war what the fuck am I gonna do about it?

That does not mean I thorugh my hands up in despair! It is a recognistion to focus on what I can change, in an intelligent and disciplined way to maximise any positivity. Come and visit us at the vegetable gardening thread where you'll find a load of DIFers who are helping and encouraging each other in our own backgardens - a space we can attempt to control.

By gardening in this way I am trying to beneficial to those around me. The kids get to understand and enjoy nature, they love it. They will benefit from the good food they eat from the garden. We are creating multiple safe haven zones for various creatures, and planting flowers all over the place. There might be a small business within bee flying range that is on the verge of going out of business, but thanks to our garden, (and the neighbours who have been inspired to plant lots of flowers too! :) ) we can provide a gold mine for bees!

The approach tracker is describing, and that some on here have clearly understood, provides unlimited ways you can improve things by starting with that infinitely small place inside you and working outwards... :)

i love you!

[noewhan]

Somethings in life however, are not in your control. Say, taking a bank loan...
... Okay, bad example :)

If all of the protests were covered on TV, there would be a revolution.

[tracker]

I love you guys lol.

Yep , this is my boombastic style :D

I will try making another thread soon based on this one but not as wide sweeping and a bit more detailed , so that those who always fight , will see that one doesnt have to be ignorant to have a blissful life , and that you can win fights , with out agression .

:)

[tracker]

the forum with some of the more practical intuitively aware people needs to wake up to what? Whats with the peer pressure bullying?


Im talking about the forums "substance".
There is more death/destruction/rape/murder/espionage/and dark subjects on this forum than there is in an uncensored news channel .
for which we all know does not do our minds any good .

Im not saying we should sensor the forum , Im saying people are complaining about things , but are not exactly helping matters with all this media hype crap .




as for the peer pressure ?

there is some , to which I refure to having to accept all these wild accusations and fear mongering subjects as "ALL THERE IS IN THIS WORLD", otherwise you get trolled left right and center .

rescent trolling has put me off the "Survival" sections for EVER !

I do not visit them any more because of an egotistic angry person who obviously hated my ability to make and design good threads there .

I am known for my survival subjects , but that troll put me off for good because they acted like a government troll and acted so big headed as though they had some kind of authority .

now that I dont go there they hardly visit that forum .

Obviousely they now have nothing to troll because thats all they do which is why they dont hardly go there now .

strange folk .



:)

[princessofwands]

White Horse, you said that beautifully!

It helps to remember that we are surrounded and infused by energy, the energy of many dimensions, the same energy that surrounds and infuses everyone and everything else. Empty space contains 'substance' on many levels.

We need to be conscious (rather than unconscious and conditioned) about how our 'stuff', our emotions and thoughts, is imprinting itself on this energy substance.

Every thought makes a little indent, a little pattern, in the one energy.

That pattern resonates outwards and supports all other thoughts and emotions on the same frequency. Happy thoughts support joy, kindness, sharing, gratitude, contentment....EVERYWHERE!

So, when quietly working in our gardens or playing with our children, our vibrational imprint on the one energy is invisibly spreading out to support a world where those more beautiful qualities can manifest everywhere.

Compare with what happens when we watch the nightly news and get OUTRAGED about something that a politician has said or done! What does THAT vibration do to the one energy field? What does it support, what vibration are we sharing with the rest of creation? (shiver).

It's obvious how the media is complicit in holding this planet in a matrix of dense vibrations where it is difficult to manifest joy and happiness. It doesn't mean we shouldn't be aware of what's going on in our environment and the world but we must watch our reactions very carefully so we're not feeding the beast of darkness!

Now think also about what happens when you go for a walk, whether it's along a coastal path or in a vast shopping centre. You leave a little trail of your 'stuff' as you go along. Trails from everyone criss-cross, and feed each other. People wander through our trail and pick up a tiny imprint in their own aura of what we've left there.

So, thinking about our 'stuff', the bits and pieces of feeling and thought that we fill our personal auras with, is quite important. We want to be leaving a sparkling trail of happiness and inspiration for other people to wander into. If we don't let ourselves be stressed out in the shopping centre, we can leave the vibration of its collective aura in a nicer state than we found it.

:)

[tracker]

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^good post ^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^:)

same can be said about this forum at the moment .

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[unenlightened_waffle]

Good post by the OP, I must say that for my part I do not read the news too much and dont take part in this conspiracy stuff anymore, because it simply achieves sweet fa.

I believe in forgiveness and although I cannot achieve it all the time I strive towards it, this means that when I hear about atrocities or conspiracy's I dont bury my head in the sand nor am I passive, I have to accept that there are bad people in this world and if things had have gone bad for me perhaps I would be involved in it.

The solution I came to was I need to make a difference so I do it where it counts in my everyday life, being friendlier every day, forgiving people for being idiots. This made me realise two things 1 I am wrong, 2 so is everyone else (in some way or another)

So when I eventually fix myself to be completely free of wrongness I will automatically be helping the world become a better one.

People who get angry, jealous, greedy, envious etc.. (like me) will not be making the world better until they know what a better world is, and imo, for me a better world is one where I am a better person.

I still dont see the point of moaning and beaching about the world when we are imperfect! We cannot have an perfect world with imperfect people so why not change the only thing you can? :eek:

[unenlightened_waffle]

Good post by the OP, I must say that for my part I do not read the news too much and dont take part in this conspiracy stuff anymore, because it simply achieves sweet fa.

I believe in forgiveness and although I cannot achieve it all the time I strive towards it, this means that when I hear about atrocities or conspiracy's I dont bury my head in the sand nor am I passive, I have to accept that there are bad people in this world and if things had have gone bad for me perhaps I would be involved in it.

The solution I came to was I need to make a difference so I do it where it counts in my everyday life, being friendlier every day, forgiving people for being idiots. This made me realise two things 1 I am wrong, 2 so is everyone else (in some way or another)

So when I eventually fix myself to be completely free of wrongness I will automatically be helping the world become a better one.

People who get angry, jealous, greedy, envious etc.. (like me) will not be making the world better until they know what a better world is, and imo, for me a better world is one where I am a better person.

I still dont see the point of moaning and beaching about the world when we are imperfect! We cannot have an perfect world with imperfect people so why not change the only thing you can? :eek: