Matthew Delooze on the Moon Matrix

[princessofwands]

http://www.oneballmedia.com/node/2344

Matthew rambles on about how he was told by his mum that the moon was made of cheese.....

..... then he moves on to a much more important point: what would we actually DO if we were told by our authorities that the moon was a hollowed-out spaceship and we were all living in a deception controlled from the moon?

He makes the important point that realising our OWN true nature is more important than finding out what the moon is, or isn't.

"What scares you the most my friend, the theory itself or actually dealing with the fact if the theory was proved true? I believe the pampered and the comfortable don’t want a theory like this to be true because it will no doubt take away their comforts. Indeed I’m sure of it.

After all it is far easier for all of us to have thoughts about the existence of spaceships and hollow celestial bodies etc than it is to actually think about what would happen if the theory became fact and that fact kicked us right up the arse one morning and destroyed our comfort bubbles. Let’s face it 99.9% of the human race couldn’t actually cope with the moon being properly exposed as a spaceship even if it truly was one, could it? 99.9% of the human race wants to keep things like this as a fantasy and a ‘hobby’ and discuss it over a coffee and a hob nob.

Indeed if the moon was officially exposed as a con trick, apart from actually thanking the book writers that initially told you the truth about the moon, what else ‘could’ you actually do anyway? Or did you not think that far ahead? No?

I thought so.

So thinking ahead far in the past lets get thinking. I can say to friends, or even those that see me as an enemy, that as far as I can see, it is not whether certain theories about the moon are true that matters. Oh no, my little band of moon cheese munchers, not by a long chalk, it is whether you could actually cope with such things actually 'being true' that matters. I say this simply because if the moon is ever shown or proven to be fake then its appearance is immediately rendered a literal bag of shit in disguise. Sadly if the moon conspiracy is ever shown to be fact then what would that fact make of the real appearance of the human race?

It makes the real appearance of the human race 'fake' and a literal bag of shit too doesn't it?

Indeed I can smell the rising odour on a daily basis. We would look a right bunch of idiots if our moon was proved to be a phony wouldn't we? Especially so when it is claimed we actually landed on it over 40 years ago by our elected 'leaders'. Going off experience I can tell you that the realisation that we have been deceived on a massive scale, and had access to our true awareness and power blocked, by an alien force is just too much to take for some. Can you admit that you have been turned in to a muppet by a deceptive alien force and will your ego allow you to admit that you are a spiritual slave to the same deceptive force or do you believe you are fully in control of yourself and in charge of your comforts in this world?

If you are in full control of yourself why are you interested in seeking spiritual freedom and interested in conspiracies then? Are you simply playing games to escape from your humdrum existence? Hey please believe me I see people who will never be free in my opinion, simply because their ego won't ever allow them to be. I see people wallow in material pleasures and vanity and they would literally murder their kids for earthy luxuries. I realise I sound arrogant saying that but I believe it is true and I believe i need to say it. So please don't miss the boat simply because your ego doesn't like the colour of it.

I am 100% positive that before we begin to look at possible conspiracies being true, even as daft as some of them seem, we need to look how 'true' we are too. How true are the people telling of conspiracies and how true are those listening to conspiracy information. If you or I are not 'true' to each other and ourselves then how can anything else be true or how can anything ever be true. My friend it can't and it's time to realise that kidding others and kidding ourselves is not on the agenda if you want to go forward in to truth. Well is it? Are you going to carry on kidding yourself? Are you going to say one thing and then do another?

The main question I ask as we go through 2010 is how true are you my friend? Do you want the truth or do you want to play at fantasy games?

It is so easy playing intellectual conspiracy punters on the forums and playing clever intellectuals going to hyped conferences for the awakened darlings isn't it? It's nice to latch on to a clever Guru so you can play sheep too, after all they suppy your thoughts for you when you bullshit the novices eh. Some have been at that for decades and are still no wiser. Some of us are dafter now than we have ever been. It is also easy for the sceptics and hecklers to play clever buggers too but there is only ever a very thin line of embarrassment between a confirmed loyal conspiracy buff and a bullish heckler.

I tell you the truth. There is a battle on to rescue your mind. There is a battle on to awaken your soul. There is a battle on to help you move forward and there is a battle on to stop you going backward. It is not a fantasy battle of new age warriors of light versus warriors of dark either. It is simply you versus you battle. It is the real you getting past the phony you. I have tried to get this across to people for a few years now. I am running out of time and I won't be saying it much longer. You will have either won or lost the battle of you over you.

The biggest conspiracy in this world is about you. Solve that and the moon will follow.

If the real you gets past the phony you, just like Truman did in the Truman Show, then you willl have the right to really look at the moon, just as you want to look at it and just as you were always meant to look at it. If that happens you will indeed find the exit door out of this shithole of a world you fester in, just like Truman did and I will be glad if you do. If the real you surrenders to the phony you then you will simply be left with the other actors living phony existence.... just as you do now.

So let’s hope the 'real you' wins through then eh? The choice will be yours but it will not be an easy choice."

[hunter77]

genius as usual, just about sums it all up imo. i think matts work is great and think he's spot on about the fact , that certain people follow researches like guru's beliving blindly in what thye say and attacking anyone who dares say otherwise.

he's right what he says the only battle is with " oneself ":)

[crisitunity]

The events going on are the alarm bells, but the real goal is to wake up no question.

[subl1minal]

I love Matthew's work but damn he's seriously condescending and cynical at times.

He might aswell just say ''What if the Government told you all of the conspiracies were true? what would you do then you bunch of fucking mind controlled idiots? tell me what would you do??''

What about the people that know everything there is to know like you Matthew, but are still interested in the Moon Matrix and other conspiracies? well? tell me! ;)

[jojo]

genius as usual, just about sums it all up imo. i think matts work is great and think he's spot on about the fact , that certain people follow researches like guru's beliving blindly in what thye say and attacking anyone who dares say otherwise.

he's right what he says the only battle is with " oneself ":)

yep agreed. Matts got his head screwed on when it comes to this 'reality' alright. his words resinate with me more that any other researcher.

I quite like his northern blunt writing style tbh.

[suzedelooze]

I love Matthew's work but damn he's seriously condescending and cynical at times.

He might aswell just say ''What if the Government told you all of the conspiracies were true? what would you do then you bunch of fucking mind controlled idiots? tell me what would you do??''

What about the people that know everything there is to know like you Matthew, but are still interested in the Moon Matrix and other conspiracies? well? tell me! ;)

I suggest you ask him yourself, hop over to here and post your question ...

www.oneballradio.com

I am sure he will be happy to answer you, he doesn't come on this Forum I'm afraid

Susie Delooze
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[subl1minal]

I suggest you ask him yourself, hop over to here and post your question ...

www.oneballradio.com

I am sure he will be happy to answer you, he doesn't come on this Forum I'm afraid

Susie Delooze
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I didn't think of doing that :o Thanks!

[hagbard_celine]

I love Matthew's work but damn he's seriously condescending and cynical at times.

He might aswell just say ''What if the Government told you all of the conspiracies were true? what would you do then you bunch of fucking mind controlled idiots? tell me what would you do??''

What about the people that know everything there is to know like you Matthew, but are still interested in the Moon Matrix and other conspiracies? well? tell me! ;)

Matthew is excersising his right to free speech I suppose. He's entitled to do that. But of course that means we have that same right;):cool:, so we can tell him that we don't like being addressed in that demeaning tone.

[subl1minal]

Matthew is excersising his right to free speech I suppose. He's entitled to do that. But of course that means we have that same right;):cool:, so we can tell him that we don't like being addressed in that demeaning tone.

And then he'll probably say ''I don't give a shit'' haha Maybe that's why his conspiracy work isn't as popular as he'd like it to be.

I read some new articles of his yesterday and damn does he sound a lot like Icke at times, as in referring to his awakening experience all the time. Which obviously isn't a bad thing but yeah..

Just like with John Harris (TPUC) though, he started getting really arrogant with his 'knowledge' and it just puts people off. But that's just my opinion :)

[astrochicken]

To be honest, i much prefer Matt's blunt, no-bullshit "fuck you" attitude
than icke's book-selling, banner-ad renting pander-to-the-conspiracy-masses niche. He's human.


Matt's writings on the serpent cult and the vampire-like harvesting of energy via obelisks and pyramids at mass public gatherings resonates intuitively, there's nothing david's written that strikes me as "original".. s'just
other researchers repackaged blurb with a healthy dose of ego.

[jojo]

To be honest, i much prefer Matt's blunt, no-bullshit "fuck you" attitude
than icke's book-selling, banner-ad renting pander-to-the-conspiracy-masses niche. He's human.


Matt's writings on the serpent cult and the vampire-like harvesting of energy via obelisks and pyramids at mass public gatherings resonates intuitively, there's nothing david's written that strikes me as "original".. s'just
other researchers repackaged blurb with a healthy dose of ego.

yep, well said!

[anthony1965]

This thread has a lot of potential. Thanks to Susie for the reminder that Matthew is prepared to answer questions on his site.

Rather than loads of us hopping over and asking the same things, maybe someone could take some questions and post the answers here as well?

Maybe Jojo could do the honours?

[jojo]

This thread has a lot of potential. Thanks to Susie for the reminder that Matthew is prepared to answer questions on his site.

Rather than loads of us hopping over and asking the same things, maybe someone could take some questions and post the answers here as well?

Maybe Jojo could do the honours?

i have no questions to ask him anthony. if i do i just email him directly as he is a mate.

if you have questions, then i think it should be you who asks him directly. I do not want to get involved with any negative questions about his work/attitude/ethos from members of this forum.

thanks, Jo

[runciter]

To be honest, i much prefer Matt's blunt, no-bullshit "fuck you" attitude
than icke's book-selling, banner-ad renting pander-to-the-conspiracy-masses niche. He's human.


Matt's writings on the serpent cult and the vampire-like harvesting of energy via obelisks and pyramids at mass public gatherings resonates intuitively, there's nothing david's written that strikes me as "original".. s'just
other researchers repackaged blurb with a healthy dose of ego.

i don't trust delooze

he gives me the impression of a self-worshiper who's subtlely promoting the cult

[anthony1965]

i have no questions to ask him anthony. if i do i just email him directly as he is a mate.

if you have questions, then i think it should be you who asks him directly. I do not want to get involved with any negative questions about his work/attitude/ethos from members of this forum.

thanks, Jo

Fair enough. I haven't got negative questions for him.

His work is brilliant. I just have a problem with his attitude to his readers (and to "truth seekers" in general), but that's not what would interest me if I was asking him questions. I think it's brilliant that we have the opportunity to share with people like Matthew who have so much knowledge in their respective areas.

[runciter]

Fair enough. I haven't got negative questions for him.

His work is brilliant. I just have a problem with his attitude to his readers (and to "truth seekers" in general), but that's not what would interest me if I was asking him questions. I think it's brilliant that we have the opportunity to share with people like Matthew who have so much knowledge in their respective areas.

i have read two of his books, reread one of them recently, and there is very little substance

maybe he's honest in his intentions, surely "the stars are falling" could have been about 1/10 long

as a contactee and self-perceived enlightened individual, he may be entrapped in his own visions

[jojo]

Fair enough. I haven't got negative questions for him.

His work is brilliant. I just have a problem with his attitude to his readers (and to "truth seekers" in general), but that's not what would interest me if I was asking him questions. I think it's brilliant that we have the opportunity to share with people like Matthew who have so much knowledge in their respective areas.

fair play. yes, if you email him, he does respond. thats how I became friendly with him, i just emailed him one day and he replied and it went from there. Ive met up with matt and his beautiful wife suze, on a number of occasions.

His style may get some peoples back up, but i have only ever found him true, honest and generous with his time and knowledge. his talks cost next to nothing and he even gives many of his books away. all in the name of spreading the word and hoping that more and more people become aware of the deceptive, controlling forces that rule this world. He is not egotistical in the slightest, nor is he cultish in any way (:D that made me chuckle some what) And he is especially such a good laugh when you share a beer down the pub.

[subl1minal]

To be honest, i much prefer Matt's blunt, no-bullshit "fuck you" attitude
than icke's book-selling, banner-ad renting pander-to-the-conspiracy-masses niche. He's human.


Matt's writings on the serpent cult and the vampire-like harvesting of energy via obelisks and pyramids at mass public gatherings resonates intuitively, there's nothing david's written that strikes me as "original".. s'just
other researchers repackaged blurb with a healthy dose of ego.

Well if you want people to listen to you, you don't talk to them like they're inferior pieces of shit on the ground.

But as I said, I do love Matthew's work and it's just something I'll have to look past! The whole Ferris Wheel thing blew my mind.

[runciter]

all in the name of spreading the word and hoping that more and more people become aware of the deceptive, controlling forces that rule this world.

well that's fine, but how do you deal with an interdimensional force that uses humans as vehicles?

pray the lord jesus christ? :D

[jhado]

Matthew Delooze is doing a couple of talks later in the year.

One in London, and one in the East-Midlands.

Why not come along and ask him stuff yourself.

[anthony1965]

Matthew Delooze is doing a couple of talks later in the year.

One in London, and one in the East-Midlands.

Why not come along and ask him stuff yourself.

I don't live in the UK.

I'm not flying over for a pint and some jaffa cakes with Matthew Delooze.

I think e:mail is the best bet, or maybe someone else could provide some answers here if they are familar with Matthew and his work?

[jhado]

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[anthony1965]

Here you are anthony

matthewdelooze@aol.com

Thanks! :)

I hope he doesn't object to gruff northerners like me! :p

[runciter]

according to delooze, diana knowingly participated in her own sacrifice

unpleasant way to present things, considering that he obviously can't prove it

no information on how the system works from a practical point of view, in his research

i would call it a dissociative approach, not my cup of tea

[engelsblume]

according to delooze, diana knowingly participated in her own sacrifice

unpleasant way to present things, considering that he obviously can't prove it

no information on how the system works from a practical point of view, in his research

i would call it a dissociative approach, not my cup of tea

Oh I very much doubt that. Even some of the ppl involved in the ritual, didn't know who exactly they were killing or that the ritual was for anyone's death in the first place. So I doubt Diana knew.

[edelweiss pirate]

I suggest you ask him yourself, hop over to here and post your question ...

www.oneballradio.com

I am sure he will be happy to answer you, he doesn't come on this Forum I'm afraid



He isn't missed. Not by me anyway.

This guy is the king of self promotion and very little else.


He used to be on this forum in the early days... but I slept right through him..... remember nothing of interest from him at all.

[jojo]

Matthew Delooze is doing a couple of talks later in the year.

One in London, and one in the East-Midlands.

Why not come along and ask him stuff yourself.

ill be there this time, as i missed his last talk. I think the one in london is on the 18th of sept and the midlands gig is on the 25th

[nutrition]

i think this guy raises a lot of interesting points, as well as reference material (especially for those who have no idea and wouldn't have taken a look otherwise at moon theories)... i didn't read the entire article - but i don't think i saw him mention Hoagland at all - and he's got the best factual info out there.

one thing that i was actually really interested in, was the info he posted about HG Wells and his First Men In The Moon book... Several years later, Wells eventually wrote his book The New World Order... which was non-fiction (and a push toward the NWO reality).... obviously he was clued in on some stuff... I haven't looked into Wells.... doing so now ;)

[hagbard_celine]

And then he'll probably say ''I don't give a shit''

And then I'll say: "I do." What's more I'll add that it's not a request but a statement: He shall not address me like that, and he doesn't because I have no contact with him. I've got hospital Porters' Pride and Dignity and nobody is going to take that away from me.:cool::)

Pity because his research is very valuable and I always recommend him to people.

[jhado]

So, some of you think Matthew is:- full of himself, arrogant, a know-it-all, a self-worshipper, the king of self-promotion (that one cracked me up, especially on this forum).

Those who still cling to ego would possibly come to those conclusions. However, I think he's done certain things deliberately, to make us challenge our egos. He isn't about 'conspiracy', he's about YOU.

Honestly my friends, come to one of his talks, meet the guy...your perceptions may change.

He doesn't talk down to his audience, and he'll happily have a pint with you afterwards, and try to answer your questions. How many gurus do that ,eh? , (sorry Matt, I know you hate the word "guru").

I love David Icke, because he showed me which windows to look through.

But, I love Matthew Delooze more, because he cleaned those windows for me.

He is not my "guru"...but I do owe him a pint.

Love and peace, Jhado.

[pound]

To be honest, i much prefer Matt's blunt, no-bullshit "fuck you" attitude
than icke's book-selling, banner-ad renting pander-to-the-conspiracy-masses niche. He's human.


Matt's writings on the serpent cult and the vampire-like harvesting of energy via obelisks and pyramids at mass public gatherings resonates intuitively, there's nothing david's written that strikes me as "original".. s'just
other researchers repackaged blurb with a healthy dose of ego.


I like them both, but Icke is a living legend...nuff said:)

[binkbonk]

MD's belief that rock concerts and football games are looshe feasts for the overlords makes me think there must be a medical word that I can't spell, that describe his extreme paranoia perfectly.

[astrochicken]

MD's belief that rock concerts and football games are looshe feasts for the overlords makes me think there must be a medical word that I can't spell, that describe his extreme paranoia perfectly.

The words you're looking for may be complacency, ignorance or verbal diarrhoea.

[edelweiss pirate]

So, some of you think Matthew is:- full of himself, arrogant, a know-it-all, a self-worshipper, the king of self-promotion (that one cracked me up, especially on this forum).

Those who still cling to ego would possibly come to those conclusions. However, I think he's done certain things deliberately, to make us challenge our egos. He isn't about 'conspiracy', he's about YOU.

Honestly my friends, come to one of his talks, meet the guy...your perceptions may change.

He doesn't talk down to his audience, and he'll happily have a pint with you afterwards, and try to answer your questions. How many gurus do that ,eh? , (sorry Matt, I know you hate the word "guru").

I love David Icke, because he showed me which windows to look through.

But, I love Matthew Delooze more, because he cleaned those windows for me.

He is not my "guru"...but I do owe him a pint.

Love and peace, Jhado.

I just don't like the way he looks down on this forum. He's always at pains to say he 'never comes here and neither does David Icke' and always says things like 'this idea's all mine and noone else's.' Fine, why do you have to keep banging on about it? Just get over not liking this forum, no need to tell everyone how crap you think we all are. He used to come here and from what I can tell this forum and David Icke basically made him (made what I don't know yet).

To be honest, the man has put me off the message and I see no reason to change my views of him.



If you can here and now tell me something ground-breakingly interesting that Delooze has put out there then I will reconsider. But like I say, nothing stands out, he just seems to repackage all Icke's ideas.

[moondancer]

MD's belief that rock concerts and football games are looshe feasts for the overlords makes me think there must be a medical word that I can't spell, that describe his extreme paranoia perfectly.


Maybe.. but maybe there is sumat in it? Why do you think its wrong? Im interested.. I did a thread on rave flyers after reading Matts words... I think theres something in it.. but the magic word there is think. Will we ever know for sure

Of course, if you know 100% that youre right and matts wrong, fair play..but seeing as I know you dont,not really.. im just interested in your thoughts on it

Thanks!

And not just aimed at you - but it always makes me smile when people who visit this forum can have a total shutdown on some ideas / beliefs or whatever :) (well, apart from the ones who clearly only come here to wind people up) Not forgetting when people, who also have what others could consider 'way out ideas', calls someone else mental for their beliefs..

classic

[hunter77]

Maybe.. but maybe there is sumat in it? Why do you think its wrong? Im interested.. I did a thread on rave flyers after reading Matts words... I think theres something in it.. but the magic word there is think. Will we ever know for sure

Of course, if you know 100% that youre right and matts wrong, fair play..but seeing as I know you dont,not really.. im just interested in your thoughts on it

Thanks!

And not just aimed at you - but it always makes me smile when people who visit this forum can have a total shutdown on some ideas / beliefs or whatever :) (well, apart from the ones who clearly only come here to wind people up) Not forgetting when people, who also have what others could consider 'way out ideas', calls someone else mental for their beliefs..

classic

very well put miss moon:) one mans junk is anothers treasure;) and as you say the guy can't prove he's a hundred percent sure he's right as matt can't.
youve just got to go with what resonates with you and not be afraid to open ourselves to new ideas, without this life , reality of whatever you wan't to call it would be very boring ,wouldn't it?:)

[subl1minal]

I just don't like the way he looks down on this forum. He's always at pains to say he 'never comes here and neither does David Icke' and always says things like 'this idea's all mine and noone else's.' Fine, why do you have to keep banging on about it? Just get over not liking this forum, no need to tell everyone how crap you think we all are. He used to come here and from what I can tell this forum and David Icke basically made him (made what I don't know yet).

To be honest, the man has put me off the message and I see no reason to change my views of him.



If you can here and now tell me something ground-breakingly interesting that Delooze has put out there then I will reconsider. But like I say, nothing stands out, he just seems to repackage all Icke's ideas.


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I totally agree.

Every one bangs on about Icke repacking other researchers ideas, when all he does is reference them and even give you all the links in his books. I don't see Matthew doing that in his blogs. It's always ''I would go in further detail, but you're too stupid to even read my next paragraph..''

[binkbonk]

Maybe.. but maybe there is sumat in it? Why do you think its wrong? Im interested.. I did a thread on rave flyers after reading Matts words... I think theres something in it.. but the magic word there is think. Will we ever know for sure

Of course, if you know 100% that youre right and matts wrong, fair play..but seeing as I know you dont,not really.. im just interested in your thoughts on it

Thanks!

And not just aimed at you - but it always makes me smile when people who visit this forum can have a total shutdown on some ideas / beliefs or whatever :) (well, apart from the ones who clearly only come here to wind people up) Not forgetting when people, who also have what others could consider 'way out ideas', calls someone else mental for their beliefs..

classicThe idea of overlords feasting on our energy just seams silly to me, and extremely paranoid. I am in a band that has played festivals with tens of thousands of people in attendance. I get something out of it, it's exhilarating, it's a release, it's energizing, it's an experience that everyone attending feels. The experience makes us feel good, not the loosh sucking "overlords"... Football matches and other sporting events are fun, and a positive social experience (barring a few scuffles). We, the humans get positive energy from these huge events. These events are good for humanity.

Knowing that I am very active in researching and spreading the message of freedom and truth, and have been for years, and because of my personal experience with some of the topics MD talks about, it is my opinion that his idea of loosh sucking overlords elaborately conspiring to put together rock concerts so that they can eat dinner is, paranoid.

[subl1minal]

The idea of overlords feasting on our energy just seams silly to me, and extremely paranoid. I am in a band that has played festivals with tens of thousands of people in attendance. I get something out of it, it's exhilarating, it's a release, it's energizing, it's an experience that everyone attending feels. The experience makes us feel good, not the loosh sucking "overlords"... Football matches and other sporting events are fun, and a positive social experience (barring a few scuffles). We, the humans get positive energy from these huge events. These events are good for humanity.

Knowing that I am very active in researching and spreading the message of freedom and truth, and have been for years, and because of my personal experience with some of the topics MD talks about, it is my opinion that his idea of loosh sucking overlords elaborately conspiring to put together rock concerts so that they can eat dinner is, paranoid.


Some of it makes sense though when he mentions Glastonbury being one of the main Vortex points through the Leylines, plus they have the Pyramid stage. Lot's of energy going into the Earth.

But like you said, these festivals etc. are positive... most of the time. So I don't see how it would work, unless it's male, sexual energy Icke talks about.

[moondancer]

very well put miss moon:) one mans junk is anothers treasure;) and as you say the guy can't prove he's a hundred percent sure he's right as matt can't.
youve just got to go with what resonates with you and not be afraid to open ourselves to new ideas, without this life , reality of whatever you wan't to call it would be very boring ,wouldn't it?:)

thanks sweetheart :) x

[felakuti]

Some of it makes sense though when he mentions Glastonbury being one of the main Vortex points through the Leylines, plus they have the Pyramid stage. Lot's of energy going into the Earth.

But like you said, these festivals etc. are positive... most of the time. So I don't see how it would work, unless it's male, sexual energy Icke talks about.

Well, we create our own reality just like the 'aliens'.

It's the BELIEF you hold with regard to an event or festival that manifests as reality to you. Thus the exhilirating effect of concerts on humans can exist perfectly alongside the more sinister uses to which such activity is put by extraterrestrial powers.

[hunter77]

Well, we create our own reality just like the 'aliens'.

It's the BELIEF you hold with regard to an event or festival that manifests as reality to you. Thus the exhilirating effect of concerts on humans can exist perfectly alongside the more sinister uses to which such activity is put by extraterrestrial powers.

well put , matts point should i understand hom correctly is the way we change ourselves is by being aware of things. it's not about not going to gigs or festivals , its just being aware of the way our energy is directed. knowlege is all powerfull, some one said that iam not sure who , but they did:D

[moondancer]

The idea of overlords feasting on our energy just seams silly to me, and extremely paranoid. I am in a band that has played festivals with tens of thousands of people in attendance. I get something out of it, it's exhilarating, it's a release, it's energizing, it's an experience that everyone attending feels. The experience makes us feel good, not the loosh sucking "overlords"... Football matches and other sporting events are fun, and a positive social experience (barring a few scuffles). We, the humans get positive energy from these huge events. These events are good for humanity.

Knowing that I am very active in researching and spreading the message of freedom and truth, and have been for years, and because of my personal experience with some of the topics MD talks about, it is my opinion that his idea of loosh sucking overlords elaborately conspiring to put together rock concerts so that they can eat dinner is, paranoid.

Made me laugh bout the overlords chowing down :)

Thanks for your reply

Hmm... Im getting where you're coming from... but if its all about vibration / positive and negative energy being used for whatever, than this is a perfect setting? Get thousands of people on a high, get drugs mixed in.. they create the positive energy and then also the come down negative energy.

I take it you dont believe anything which is linked with human energy / vibe / ley lines or whatever being manipulated..

I dunno... :confused:

Like I say, when I read this from Matt, I started thinking back to the rave days.. why were we all allowed to gather n take shit loads of drugs blah blah blah.. when you see the symbology on the flyers, it really does make you wonder. Please do take a look at the thread I did.. I included a lot of flyer pics and it moved from those, onto the music... I thought it got well interesting :)

The fact you were in a band, id be interested to know your thoughts... Or maybe you cant be arsed, and thats cool too :cool: :p

Some of it makes sense though when he mentions Glastonbury being one of the main Vortex points through the Leylines, plus they have the Pyramid stage. Lot's of energy going into the Earth.

But like you said, these festivals etc. are positive... most of the time. So I don't see how it would work, unless it's male, sexual energy Icke talks about.

Hmmm they are, I agree.. (and yes, only most of the time)

I wonder though, its not even just about drugs.. people who dont do them still get their own high, just being there.. and they can still go on a downer after the event has happened.. sometimes just the feeling of loss or longing to be back, to those few hours of false reality.. which helps them forget their worries, money problems etc etc..

Thousands of people unleashing positive and negative vibes...

If we believe they control the music industry and is all part of the agenda.. then im guessing, these huge events must be a bonus for them

who knows

Well, we create our own reality just like the 'aliens'.

It's the BELIEF you hold with regard to an event or festival that manifests as reality to you. Thus the exhilirating effect of concerts on humans can exist perfectly alongside the more sinister uses to which such activity is put by extraterrestrial powers.

yes :)

[subl1minal]

Made me laugh bout the overlords chowing down :)

Thanks for your reply

Hmm... Im getting where you're coming from... but if its all about vibration / positive and negative energy being used for whatever, than this is a perfect setting? Get thousands of people on a high, get drugs mixed in.. they create the positive energy and then also the come down negative energy.

I take it you dont believe anything which is linked with human energy / vibe / ley lines or whatever being manipulated..

I dunno... :confused:

Like I say, when I read this from Matt, I started thinking back to the rave days.. why were we all allowed to gather n take shit loads of drugs blah blah blah.. when you see the symbology on the flyers, it really does make you wonder. Please do take a look at the thread I did.. I included a lot of flyer pics and it moved from those, onto the music... I thought it got well interesting :)

The fact you were in a band, id be interested to know your thoughts... Or maybe you cant be arsed, and thats cool too :cool: :p



Hmmm they are, I agree.. (and yes, only most of the time)

I wonder though, its not even just about drugs.. people who dont do them still get their own high, just being there.. and they can still go on a downer after the event has happened.. sometimes just the feeling of loss or longing to be back, to those few hours of false reality.. which helps them forget their worries, money problems etc etc..

Thousands of people unleashing positive and negative vibes...

If we believe they control the music industry and is all part of the agenda.. then im guessing, these huge events must be a bonus for them

who knows



yes :)

I totally agree, I had a bit of that today after seeing one of my favourite bands last night and meeting one of my huge influences on my guitar playing last night, getting to chat with him about all this stuff, was awesome, but I was like daaaamn, I want that moment again!

But I find you get that from any amazing time you've had anywhere, not just festivals. Either they don't understand the force that comes together at festivals every year or they do benefit energetically from some of them i.e Glastobury (which is based on a leyline)