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flint island
28-04-2010, 11:59 PM
I been reading things on David Icke on various websites.

Some religious people, etc - believe he is teaching a demonic doctrine.

He is a false prophet, etc

Telling alot of truths and secrets - but at the same time leading people away from God and the Bible, etc.

What are your thoughts on this ?

seanx
29-04-2010, 12:01 AM
Hopefully, he is leading people away from the Elite's version of the
'bible and all their organized religions.

meksar
29-04-2010, 12:03 AM
I been reading things on David Icke on various websites.

Some religious people, etc - believe he is teaching a demonic doctrine.

He is a false prophet, etc

Telling alot of truths and secrets - but at the same time leading people away from God and the Bible, etc.

What are your thoughts on this ?

I don't think he is demonic and Icke points out in The Biggest Secret that Christianity is used to hold back the patriot/truth movement and keep them in fear and ignorance. I know quite a bit about satanism and the new age connection, a lot of the new ager's don't like to accept it while Informed Christians know all about it.

flyermay
29-04-2010, 12:04 AM
I been reading things on David Icke on various websites.

Some religious people, etc - believe he is teaching a demonic doctrine.

He is a false prophet, etc

Telling alot of truths and secrets - but at the same time leading people away from God and the Bible, etc.

What are your thoughts on this ?

I guess that anyone who deviates from the bible could be considered a demon by fundamental Christians; even me, for the simple fact of being an atheist. :eek:

Nothing to worry about, I also consider most of those in the Catholic Church, the Vatican, and those running most organised religions "demons". :)

fillupmycup
29-04-2010, 12:04 AM
You said it yourself, he is exposing alot of truths and secrets, which leads people away from the Bible. Religion is dumb, spirituality is something that need to be taught, but it cant be due to the society we live in, I really wish we didnt kill all the native americans. So now we are left to find it on our own.. which is quit a challenge seeing there is no social support for spirituality anymore.

zen_anarchy
29-04-2010, 12:05 AM
if you do not believe in gods and demons then it's pretty obvious that david is not posessed by anything ,
but sometimes religious folk like to throw their weight around and brand anyone that takes people away from their cause (be it christian ,muslim,jew )as some kind of devil

david aint evil he's just a person like the rest of us

meksar
29-04-2010, 12:21 AM
David Icke himself states that the elite contact and communicate with baphomet and demons.

Go to 4:30

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

blackyblue
29-04-2010, 12:52 AM
I been reading things on David Icke on various websites.

Some religious people, etc - believe he is teaching a demonic doctrine.

He is a false prophet, etc

Telling alot of truths and secrets - but at the same time leading people away from God and the Bible, etc.

What are your thoughts on this ?

To be honest with you i think David Icke's experience on wogan has taught him to cover up the subject of christ!

But he difinitely believes in the workings of demonic entities and doe's use the bible as proof of those demonsterous entities. He has been heard to acknowledge that there is a god, or a higher force so to speak and he does acknowledge that there are good entities and not just monsterous ones!

This would lead me to the conclusion that David Icke to a certain extent believes in the same essence's as Christians and what all spiritual believers believe, and let's not forget, David Icke was ridiculed and laughed at on wogan for talking about Christ, and i suspect that he avoids the subject largely down to the fact that by being a conspiracy researcher more people will listen to him, and he knows if he was to constantly mention christ he would run the risk of been seen as a preacher or bible basher and quite frankly no-one would listen!

mauviene
29-04-2010, 12:55 AM
David Icke has kundalini..that is it.

You get huge spurts of creative energy and high levels of charisma and power.

01cobravortech
29-04-2010, 01:01 AM
People should be careful what they take as "truth" from someone that enjoys using ayahuasca recreationally to tune into other dimensions. For all we know, Icke could be doing his part for the NWO by attacking Christianity and its claims. There's disinformation in every facet of our reality. By what standard do people measure Icke, when it comes to providing absolute truth? People have always loved the we are one message and the no judgment of any moral behavior message. The do what feels good message and let it all hang out message has been peddled before. This guy's claims and motives should be weighed just as carefully as you would that of any other peddling an "I got it all figured out" message. Just because you find the message attractive and appealing, doesn't mean you aren't being led to your destruction.

blackyblue
29-04-2010, 01:09 AM
People should be careful what they take as "truth" from someone that enjoys using ayahuasca recreationally to tune into other dimensions. For all we know, Icke could be doing his part for the NWO by attacking Christianity and its claims. There's disinformation in every facet of our reality. By what standard do people measure Icke, when it comes to providing absolute truth? People have always loved the we are one message and the no judgment of any moral behavior message. The do what feels good message and let it all hang out message has been peddled before. This guy's claims and motives should be weighed just as carefully as you would that of any other peddling an "I got it all figured out" message. Just because you find the message attractive and appealing, doesn't mean you aren't being led to your destruction.

But lets not forget that when you watch David Icke on you-tube 'or wherever' he turns to chapters in the bible for scripture and proof and uses exodus and genesis a lot when talking about aliens that invaded humanity, and entities that possess the world elite.
You cannot just use the bible when it suits you then dismiss everything else when it suits.
I think deep down he does believe to some extent in good over evil and is not a possessed demon.
Let's not forget that god works in mysterious ways and like i pointed out in my above post, if David Icke started jibbering about the bible no-one would listen to his workings and he would be laughed at like he was on wogan, and would be put down as just another bible basher!

Perhaps in due course David Icke will tackle the issue that is Jesus, but lets be honest, we did not exactly encourage him when we as a nation laughed at him! Infact, i would go as far as to say the national criticism he endured after mentioning christ probably deep down made him resent everything to do with Jesus Christ!

01cobravortech
29-04-2010, 01:19 AM
But lets not forget that when you watch David Icke on you-tube 'or wherever' he turns to chapters in the bible and uses exodus and genesis a lot when talking about aliens that invaded humanity, and entities that possess the world elite.
You cannot just use the bible when it suits you then dismiss everything else when it suits.
I think deep down he does believe to some extent in good over evil and is not a possessed demon.
Let's not forget that god works in mysterious ways and like i pointed out in my above post, if David Icke started jibbering about the bible no-one would listen to his workings and he would be laughed at like he was on wogan, and would be put down as just another bible basher!

Perhaps in due course David Icke will tackle the issue that is Jesus, but lets be honest, we did not exactly encourage him when we as a nation laughed at him! Infact, i would go as far as to say the national criticism he endured after mentioning christ probably deep down made him resent everything to do with Jesus Christ!

Well that doesn't say much about this man having any sure footing in what he's talking about if he's disregarded his beliefs in Christ because the public laughs at the whole idea. Ok so now he's giving you folks a message that you like to hear, rather than what he truly believes in. And that makes you trust him more? Gimme a break. He's a compromised man then. If Icke had convictions about who Christ is and cast that aside because your nation laughed at him, then he's just giving you the message you want to here. And that makes him a fraud and makes anyone that believes what he has to say nothing more than a grade A fool.

01cobravortech
29-04-2010, 01:23 AM
Personally mate, I know Icke is interacting with entities in our 10 dimensional world. But in my humble opinion, they are demonic. The more you screw around with mind altering drugs and occult practices, the more contact you find yourself having with demonic entities that can claim to be benevolent and make all kinds of absurd claims. There's a reason why God told the first Israelites to kill anyone involved in occult practices. There was serious danger there. And I can't even begin to tell you how many millions of people today are involved in occult practices all over the world and how many millions are opening themselves up to demonic experiences due to the use of mind altering drugs. Its an epidemic.

blackyblue
29-04-2010, 01:35 AM
Well that doesn't say much about this man having any sure footing in what he's talking about if he's disregarded his beliefs in Christ because the public laughs at the whole idea. Ok so now he's giving you folks a message that you like to hear, rather than what he truly believes in. And that makes you trust him more? Gimme a break. He's a compromised man then. If Icke had convictions about who Christ is and cast that aside because your nation laughed at him, then he's just giving you the message you want to here. And that makes him a fraud and makes anyone that believes what he has to say nothing more than a grade A fool.

You could be right!
But i don't think he is a fool. A fool would be someone that preaches the same stuff over and over again to people that are not listening.
David Icke has now got people listening and if WE believe in god then the good forces that be will guide mr Icke in the right path.

I feel that David has made a hell of a lot of money from his books and enjoy's a higher class of living than the average person and i just hope after-all the good work he has done that his best is still to come and that his incredible talents do get used for the greater cause.

I personally would be very interested to read a book based upon Jesus and the bible and think that this would be his greatest work and he is making a big mistake by choosing to ignore Jesus as an important figure in all this.

Maybe i am wrong and that this is not his destiny, but i would still refuse to believe that he is driven by demons worse than any other human in society.

I see no reasons for the paranoia that David Icke is actually working for the people he so called pretends to be attacking and i don't think he attacks christianity, but points to the satanism that has infultrated christianity and has taken the truth, turned it into a lie from which they can manipulate and profit from.
The only reason i could see for him being paid by the secret societies to do all this, would be to scare us into NOT standing up to them when the curtain comes down, what with all this shape-shifting blood drinking lizards related to aliens and stuff. Because when you look on it from another point of view, if we where not scared of those people before, WE BLOODY WELL ARE NOW!!!!

BLOOD DRINKING SHAPE SHIFTING LIZARDS FROM MARS THAT HAVE RULED HUMANITY FOR NEONS! ARE THOSE REALLY THE TYPE OF PEOPLE WE WANT TO STAND UP AND BE COUNTED AGAINST??????

But hey, i don't believe this either, just give it time see what unfolds!

blackyblue
29-04-2010, 01:52 AM
Personally mate, I know Icke is interacting with entities in our 10 dimensional world. But in my humble opinion, they are demonic. The more you screw around with mind altering drugs and occult practices, the more contact you find yourself having with demonic entities that can claim to be benevolent and make all kinds of absurd claims. There's a reason why God told the first Israelites to kill anyone involved in occult practices. There was serious danger there. And I can't even begin to tell you how many millions of people today are involved in occult practices all over the world and how many millions are opening themselves up to demonic experiences due to the use of mind altering drugs. Its an epidemic.

aM I MISSING SOMETHING?

I have watched David Icke documentaries, at least 20 of them, and he does nothing but attack the occult and it's drivel worshippers.
He is not the one running around with the 'Mano cornuto' hand signals and building statue's and other symbols regarded with drivel worship and satanism, is he?
Ok, some of his theories may at first glance 'even 2nd and 3rd glance' seem a little outlandish, but it is all part of the research he has done and in actual fact none of his claims are 100% original and most of his work is plagiarism, and he just chooses to build on words already spoken and makes himself available as a force willing to distribute this knowledge to main-stream society.
Even if all this working with super-natural entities has taken it's toll and some of his philosiphies are a little delusional, i don't see how this makes him an anti-christ.

Although my knowledge of David Icke as a person is limited and it seems you know more about him than me.

Could you please tell me where you found the evidence of him worshipping the occult so i can see for myself please?

meksar
29-04-2010, 01:56 AM
Well David Icke believes that infinite consciousness is god and taping into that is a connection, he shows how the religions are connected to ancient mysteries and the secret societies. When he said he was the son of god on Wogan, im sure he meant we are all the sons and daughters of god existing in infinity.

Altered states of consciousness and the occult have been kept out of public circulation for various reasons. I do agree that they can be dangerous and have been proven to be, the reptilian/demonic entities can hide behind various forms including human. This means that people who may not intend to summon them may do so by accident and fall into this higher evils plan by proxy.

orlibonurb
29-04-2010, 01:57 AM
Didn't David "Agent" Icke also claim to have had a "supernatural spiritual experience / awakening" which led him to Peru or something like this ?!

This, along with him being a mega New Ager (which has satanic roots via the theosophical society) and claiming to be the son of God should be a strong HINT that something is very wrong there. This last detail is, right of the bat, anti-Christ.

Let's not even start with him having place in state controlled Tell-A-Vision (but this has nothing to do with the actual thread itself).

blackyblue
29-04-2010, 02:10 AM
Didn't David "Agent" Icke also claim to have had a "supernatural spiritual experience" which led him to Peru or something like this ?!

This, along with him being a mega New Ager (which has satanic roots via the theosophical society) and claiming to be the son of God should be a strong HINT that something is very wrong there.

Let's not even start with him having place in state controlled Tell-A-Vision.

No. Mekar made a great point.

"WE ARE ALL THE SONS OF GOD".

Even Jesus accepts that he is not the only son of God!

And yes, i am sure there are entities beyond our realms that we are unaware of and for those that believe the concepts of Jesus then you will know that even Jesus found himself possessed and spent 40days and 40nights in the desert while he faught with the temptations within himself and begged forgiveness from his father for he had sinned.
If anything, David Icke proves his humanity by being just as susceptible to being wrong as anyone else on the planet.

What are we saying? that it's ok for US to be wrong about somethings but when David Icke stray's a little of the beat and trail he has become possessed?

And maybe there are forces revolving around him that would gladly point him in the wrong direction and this is something he will have to deal with on a daily basis and not just from supernatural entities but human ones.

I have absaloutaly no doubt that secret societies will try to feed him through moles ridiculous stuff, so when he repeats it to the public it will do nothing but discredit him!

But essentially i think David Icke is driven by a good heart and a good nature and i don't think he has ill intentions.

As for the guy that ran off to Peru! He was just following his instincts, and if anything, points to the fact that he does believe in god! BUT, now we are showing our complexity as humans and the reason David Icke possibly like to avoid the subject. As on the same thread we have managed to ridicule him for being possessed by demons, then ridicule him for following a spirit which could be god!

Lets just be thankful that whatever entity drove him to Peru has not possessed him to turn into a mano cornuto blood drinking shape-shifter

pound
29-04-2010, 02:12 AM
Hopefully, he is leading people away from the Elite's version of the
'bible and all their organized religions.


+1

01cobravortech
29-04-2010, 03:46 AM
But essentially i think David Icke is driven by a good heart and a good nature and i don't think he has ill intentions.

As for the guy that ran off to Peru! He was just following his instincts, and if anything, points to the fact that he does believe in god! BUT, now we are showing our complexity as humans and the reason David Icke possibly like to avoid the subject. As on the same thread we have managed to ridicule him for being possessed by demons, then ridicule him for following a spirit which could be god!

Lets just be thankful that whatever entity drove him to Peru has not possessed him to turn into a mano cornuto blood drinking shape-shifter

Plenty of people in this world have destroyed many posing as being people that were doing good with the best intentions. We have a guy in America that is almost a replica of Icke, named Jordan Maxwell. I wonder how many Icke followers even follow up any of Icke's claims. How many even really do their own research. God knows I study the Bible and its been a life long process. But I've done my historical research over secular texts which confirmed Jesus was real. I would simply be cautious about taking everything Icke says as gospel. That man uses ayahuasca quite often from what he's indicated. I'm sure he's interacting with some entities but how does he know if what he's interacting with is even telling him the truth? He's just taking its word for it. So the chance these entities are telling him the truth about anything, is 50/50. Sounds like the same odds the Bible gives people. :D

alder
29-04-2010, 04:07 AM
At least Jesus didn't charge admission for his lectures/sermons. His message was love. He allowed himself to be killed in order to show that the spirit reality (the eternal) is greater than temporal reality of the flesh.

ben87
29-04-2010, 04:24 AM
I been reading things on David Icke on various websites.

Some religious people, etc - believe he is teaching a demonic doctrine.

He is a false prophet, etc

Telling alot of truths and secrets - but at the same time leading people away from God and the Bible, etc.

What are your thoughts on this ?

Non-religious people know that the bible and its lies are fascist,racist,classist,hateful,deceitful,vain doctrine

When was icke a "prophet"??? WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING?

You sound like a priest who is worried about his sheeple waking up and realising the bible and christianity is bullshit.

ben87
29-04-2010, 04:26 AM
To clear things up. I am anti-christ, I happily share space with a daemon and his name is Ralph.

:)

i_am
29-04-2010, 04:31 AM
Plenty of people in this world have destroyed many posing as being people that were doing good with the best intentions. We have a guy in America that is almost a replica of Icke, named Jordan Maxwell. I wonder how many Icke followers even follow up any of Icke's claims. How many even really do their own research. God knows I study the Bible and its been a life long process. But I've done my historical research over secular texts which confirmed Jesus was real. I would simply be cautious about taking everything Icke says as gospel. That man uses ayahuasca quite often from what he's indicated. I'm sure he's interacting with some entities but how does he know if what he's interacting with is even telling him the truth? He's just taking its word for it. So the chance these entities are telling him the truth about anything, is 50/50. Sounds like the same odds the Bible gives people. :D

Err! No he doesn't :rolleyes:

jesusistruth
29-04-2010, 08:30 AM
People should be careful what they take as "truth" from someone that enjoys using ayahuasca recreationally to tune into other dimensions.

He has only taken it on two occasions and has had the opportunity to take more but refrained. And you have got to be one boring fuck not wanting to see on the other frequencies.

Not that I think he has the solution for anything though. He still serves the Hierarchy by paying tax and using their money. If people don't get it on the immediate level why Fascism is bad, they won't get it even if you prove them the world is run by reptiles.

For all we know, Icke could be doing his part for the NWO by attacking Christianity and its claims.

Why on earth would they want to attack Christianity, when you already believe they have been Ordained by God?

PLEASE GET SOME BRAINS

elirien
29-04-2010, 10:02 AM
Personally mate, I know Icke is interacting with entities in our 10 dimensional world. But in my humble opinion, they are demonic. The more you screw around with mind altering drugs and occult practices, the more contact you find yourself having with demonic entities that can claim to be benevolent and make all kinds of absurd claims. There's a reason why God told the first Israelites to kill anyone involved in occult practices. There was serious danger there. And I can't even begin to tell you how many millions of people today are involved in occult practices all over the world and how many millions are opening themselves up to demonic experiences due to the use of mind altering drugs. Its an epidemic.

Everyone is in contact with all dimensions right this moment. One doesn't need to drink anything or do any "magic". Many people are in unconscious contact and thus calls all of these aspects "I". It is even evident in writings. These "I"s are called demons in Christian circles.

Also the terms occult and magic are being used very interestingly lately. Occult just means hidden. If one prays to God it is hidden and rightly should be so. One doesn't go in the middle of thousands of people and shout out. Also everyone is a practicing magician. When someone "flicks on the tube" at a specific point in time after consuming a specific diet then he/she is part of a ritual already. It is occult only for those who wish it to be.

Plenty of people in this world have destroyed many posing as being people that were doing good with the best intentions. We have a guy in America that is almost a replica of Icke, named Jordan Maxwell. I wonder how many Icke followers even follow up any of Icke's claims. How many even really do their own research. God knows I study the Bible and its been a life long process. But I've done my historical research over secular texts which confirmed Jesus was real. I would simply be cautious about taking everything Icke says as gospel. That man uses ayahuasca quite often from what he's indicated. I'm sure he's interacting with some entities but how does he know if what he's interacting with is even telling him the truth? He's just taking its word for it. So the chance these entities are telling him the truth about anything, is 50/50. Sounds like the same odds the Bible gives people. :D

We know only of one occasion he had used Ayahuasca. Also chemically speaking Ayahuasca is what you drink every night when you go into Theta sleep. One just has to be conscious of it. It is ones birthright given by God.

To discern truth from falsehood is our job not his.

What is quite unnecessary though is the Maxwell approach to religion which is just sensational input like a bad advertising campaign "call the life of beings astrotheology and get a free "I luv Acharya S" T-Shirt. Quite unnecessary and factually wrong as far as it has been shown to us.

1964
29-04-2010, 10:43 AM
I been reading things on David Icke on various websites.

Some religious people, etc - believe he is teaching a demonic doctrine.

He is a false prophet, etc

Telling alot of truths and secrets - but at the same time leading people away from God and the Bible, etc.

What are your thoughts on this ?

I found this video for you. David Icke talking about his spiritual experiences - hearing voices; voices commanding him to do things; invisible forces controlling his body. The most shocking part, for me, is where David Icke explains how he was told through a "psychic" that he would face immense opposition, but that "they" would be there to protect him. And then the shocking part: David Icke says he doesn't know who "they" are, and he doesn't care!

That's fine for David Icke to say - every person has a right to make his own decisions. But Icke has made a public figure of himself, so what about the thousands of people who now follow him? They're following a man who, himself, doesn't know what he's following; and who doesn't care.

Fast-forward to about 23minutes - he says it at about 23:15

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=y4UyEUldOLQ&feature=player_embedded#!

dragon fang
29-04-2010, 10:48 AM
I don't think he is, Good demons would rather stay hidden and rarely interact with humans, While evil demons are the ones who loves to possess.

nicolaj
29-04-2010, 11:34 AM
Personally mate, I know Icke is interacting with entities in our 10 dimensional world. But in my humble opinion, they are demonic. The more you screw around with mind altering drugs and occult practices, the more contact you find yourself having with demonic entities that can claim to be benevolent and make all kinds of absurd claims. There's a reason why God told the first Israelites to kill anyone involved in occult practices. There was serious danger there. And I can't even begin to tell you how many millions of people today are involved in occult practices all over the world and how many millions are opening themselves up to demonic experiences due to the use of mind altering drugs. Its an epidemic.

Good post

flint island
29-04-2010, 05:35 PM
Non-religious people know that the bible and its lies are fascist,racist,classist,hateful,deceitful,vain doctrine

When was icke a "prophet"??? WHAT ARE YOU SMOKING?

You sound like a priest who is worried about his sheeple waking up and realising the bible and christianity is bullshit.

I dont give a fuck mate

I am not religious or a priest -

But by the Bibles standard - anyone who teachs that Christ is not God is classed as a flase prophet.

I am not reglious as such but believe there is alot of truths in the Bible

And in fact much of what Icke says is backed up by the Bible

I dont care what is proven wrong or right

I think all anyone can ever hope for is to know the truth - whatever the truth may be - good bad or ugly.

Bible says - Jesus is God

Icke says - Jesus is not God

Only one can be telling the truth

One is lying

Which one is which is all I am wondering - ?

lifeofbrian
29-04-2010, 05:46 PM
I been reading things on David Icke on various websites.

Some religious people, etc - believe he is teaching a demonic doctrine.

He is a false prophet, etc

Telling alot of truths and secrets - but at the same time leading people away from God and the Bible, etc.

What are your thoughts on this ?

Hello there.

If you listen to what David Icke says you will soon find out that he says:

"Think for yourself and make your own mind up."

Now, has David Icke fallen for the prophet-business and reckoned he could make a bob or two?

Think for yourself.

That's what David says.

He doesn't say: Follow my sandal.

Take good care.

mauviene
29-04-2010, 07:29 PM
Man you bible thumpers. If Jesus has his dick that far up your ass then what the hell else would you let him do to you?

clachan
29-04-2010, 08:12 PM
To be honest with you i think David Icke's experience on wogan has taught him to cover up the subject of christ!

But he difinitely believes in the workings of demonic entities and doe's use the bible as proof of those demonsterous entities. He has been heard to acknowledge that there is a god, or a higher force so to speak and he does acknowledge that there are good entities and not just monsterous ones!

This would lead me to the conclusion that David Icke to a certain extent believes in the same essence's as Christians and what all spiritual believers believe, and let's not forget, David Icke was ridiculed and laughed at on wogan for talking about Christ, and i suspect that he avoids the subject largely down to the fact that by being a conspiracy researcher more people will listen to him, and he knows if he was to constantly mention christ he would run the risk of been seen as a preacher or bible basher and quite frankly no-one would listen!

Then why say things like the queen mother could shape shift into a 9 foot tall blood drinking reptillian ?

lifeofbrian
29-04-2010, 08:24 PM
Man you bible thumpers. If Jesus has his dick that far up your ass then what the hell else would you let him do to you?

Jesus was an interesting fellow.

I wouldn't mind having him as a dinner guest.

Now, whether there was a Jesus, Nimrod, Osiris; or they all are Sun-myths, that's another conundrum.

Zoroaster was the first to voice the Sermon of the Mount.

What do we make of that?

lawliet
29-04-2010, 09:13 PM
what the fuck? how the fuck do you people believe god is "good" god is fucking evil, i'd rather worship demons than god (if he existed), if a god figure exists A. he must be evil to make us go through this or B. he doesn't give a shit, if it's B i am glad, then i don't give a shit about him either.

pound
29-04-2010, 09:17 PM
Jesus was an interesting fellow.

I wouldn't mind having him as a dinner guest.

Now, whether there was a Jesus, Nimrod, Osiris; or they all are Sun-myths, that's another conundrum.

Zoroaster was the first to voice the Sermon of the Mount.

What do we make of that?

+1.......All of the 'little' contradictions such as the ones you mentioned are always itching away at my mind. What was the deal with 'Tammuz' and 'Damuzi'?? This is what the archetype known as 'Jesus' was called in Babylon and Sumer.
:confused:

Icke explains all of this thoroughly in most of his books. Its been a minute since I thumbed through some of those chapters dealing with those topics. But it is quite fascinating, all of this astro-theology.

lifeofbrian
29-04-2010, 09:25 PM
what the fuck? how the fuck do you people believe god is "good" god is fucking evil, i'd rather worship demons than god (if he existed), if a god figure exists A. he must be evil to make us go through this or B. he doesn't give a shit, if it's B i am glad, then i don't give a shit about him either.

If you ever have a spare moment, maybe you want to check out who said the following:

If there is a God, who says he must be sane?

Chilling, isn't it.

lifeofbrian
29-04-2010, 09:31 PM
+1.......All of the 'little' contradictions such as the ones you mentioned are always itching away at my mind. What was the deal with 'Tammuz' and 'Damuzi'?? This is what the archetype known as 'Jesus' was called in Babylon and Sumer.
:confused:

Icke explains all of this thoroughly in most of his books. Its been a minute since I thumbed through some of those chapters dealing with those topics. But it is quite fascinating, all of this astro-theology.

Those Qs can make a person crazy. I was there.

What I figured after two decades of head scratching was that life is here and now, right in front of my nose, and, I choose escapism. To me, it was more fascinating to ponder riddles I would never find an answer to, and in the meantime my life drifted away.

Maybe some of us are detectives at heart. Maybe some of us just get distracted from real life and real questions, because. Because real life demands more from us.

Cheers.

elirien
29-04-2010, 11:10 PM
If you ever have a spare moment, maybe you want to check out who said the following:

If there is a God, who says he must be sane?

Chilling, isn't it.

Beautiful :D

It is quite weird isn't it? One has to consider the standard or reference point.

Same question, if there is you (as a mental construct) who says you are sane? What is the standard?

Those Qs can make a person crazy. I was there.

What I figured after two decades of head scratching was that life is here and now, right in front of my nose, and, I choose escapism. To me, it was more fascinating to ponder riddles I would never find an answer to, and in the meantime my life drifted away.

Maybe some of us are detectives at heart. Maybe some of us just get distracted from real life and real questions, because. Because real life demands more from us.

Cheers.

We wrote in highschool something like that. You know the time when you pretend that you are in misery and know what the world is about (around the age of 15) :D "Looking to the past and the future, I'm always late for now".

michael christopher
29-04-2010, 11:50 PM
No, he's just a fraud or a lunatic.

blackyblue
30-05-2010, 12:49 AM
Then why say things like the queen mother could shape shift into a 9 foot tall blood drinking reptillian ?

Because human-beings are so insane that we would be more likely to believe something sounds so ridiculous yet fail to grasp the concept of something maybe makes a little sense.
Also, i don't necessarily believe that David Icke himslelf totally believes that the queen is a shape-shifter and feel that he uses this theory as a powerful tool to make people listen to the facts about the reptillian blood-line and feel despite some of his out-landish claims, i think most of his work is based on very good research and 100% proof and evidence and i don't actually ever hear the PTB deny the things 'ADVICE KID' comes up with and some of them are probably flabbergasted that the history of human beings is something the vast majority where unaware of. But ultimately, David Icke is certainly not stupid and knows himself why he does certain things and knows how far he can push it!

ben87
30-05-2010, 08:21 AM
what the fuck? how the fuck do you people believe god is "good" god is fucking evil, i'd rather worship demons than god (if he existed), if a god figure exists A. he must be evil to make us go through this or B. he doesn't give a shit, if it's B i am glad, then i don't give a shit about him either.

How do you know what god is? or isnt?

Just because someone says god has a brain and arms and legs, or even the power to conciously alter things doesnt make it true.

blackyblue
30-05-2010, 06:58 PM
How do you know what god is? or isnt?

Just because someone says god has a brain and arms and legs, or even the power to conciously alter things doesnt make it true.

We make our own choices. You will find in the Old testament the prophets speaking the words of god warn us against commiting idol-ism and celebrating saturnalia which is now christmas. We are warned about money being the roots of all evil, but it is us that cannot resist the temptations that come with greed and lust and it is the demons that offer us those temptations. I am sorry, but it is you that chooses to ignore the word of god, you have no one to blame except yourself/ourselves

nectars
30-05-2010, 07:08 PM
Hopefully, he is leading people away from the Elite's version of the
'bible and all their organized religions.

^^

ben87
31-05-2010, 12:55 AM
We make our own choices. You will find in the Old testament the prophets speaking the words of god warn us against commiting idol-ism and celebrating saturnalia which is now christmas. We are warned about money being the roots of all evil, but it is us that cannot resist the temptations that come with greed and lust and it is the demons that offer us those temptations. I am sorry, but it is you that chooses to ignore the word of god, you have no one to blame except yourself/ourselves

That is a crock of shit.
You make your decisions based on a book written by some idiot impersonating god, that is a fallacy.

Do you believe homosexuality is wrong? Why? Because the bibel said? I rest my case.
You are delusional.

blackyblue
31-05-2010, 06:51 AM
That is a crock of shit.
You make your decisions based on a book written by some idiot impersonating god, that is a fallacy.

Do you believe homosexuality is wrong? Why? Because the bibel said? I rest my case.
You are delusional.

Ok, well lets forget about theories and opinions cos to tell you the truth they are worth shit!
Show me the proof via links and evidence that it is a fallacy. Show me where you get your ideas from that the world is pointless and without meaning. And ok, i do believe there is an entity to which is more powerful than us and i call this entity god, but as much as i believe in god i do not condem homosexuals and as long as they do not cause me any harm i would defend them if i saw any injustice done to them like i would for you or any man or woman. But please, before you ask me to give up all my beliefs based on your foul mouthed and simplistic idea's SHOW ME SOMETHING THAT SAYS BEING A HOMOSEXUAL IS OK! PROVE IT!

p,s
I am not saying being a homosexual is right or wrong BTW, before i get people jumping down my throat. Just asking for some evidence to back up your statement cos i hate listening to people speak with impunity!

Modern Science Proves the Bible True(part 1 updated) - YouTube

The Bible and Science: Biblical Insight - YouTube

ben87
31-05-2010, 08:44 AM
When someone impersonates god,that is a fallacy.

"Ok, well lets forget about theories and opinions cos to tell you the truth they are worth shit! "

The bibel is opinion, and theory,none of it is proven.

ben87
31-05-2010, 08:50 AM
"478 AD - In 478 AD, when the remains of Barnabas were discovered the original Gospel was found on his chest. It must be said with a profound regret that the Christians and Churches all over the world have banned the reading of the Gospel of Barnabas.He was a devout monotheist and believed in Allah. Barnabas recorded the true life and teachings of his master Hazrat Isa peace be upon him and never added anything to his record, nor did he omit anything from it. In 478 AD, when the remains of Barnabas were discovered the original Gospel was found on his chest. It must be said with a profound regret that the Christians and Churches all over the world have banned the reading of the Gospel of Barnabas"

"325 AD - Before the year 325 CE, it is known that the Gospel of Barnabas was accepted as canonical in the churches of Alexandria. It is known to have been circulated in the first two centuries after Christ (pbuh) from the writings of Irenaeus (130- 200AD). After ...Before the year 325 CE, it is known that the Gospel of Barnabas was accepted as canonical in the churches of Alexandria. It is known to have been circulated in the first two centuries after Christ (pbuh) from the writings of Irenaeus (130- 200AD). After this council, four Gospels were selected out of a minimum of three hundred available and the rest, including the Gospel of Barnabas, were ordered utterly destroyed. All Gospels written in Hebrew were also ordered "

This is why i am not a christian.

Notice that this was before Paul the deciever satans henchman and the nicene council, where they edited the bibel from 300+ gospels down to 4!!!!