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david chow
28-04-2010, 09:15 PM
I posted this in the General forum but got no responses, should have done it here to begin with.

I often find when discussing aliens/other intelligent life with religious(Christian) friends, they can have a bit of a problem with the idea. They often think I am trying to take them "away from god" and they just find all things negative about just even researching it. They get absolutely furious over the idea that we were created by an alien race. When I discuss things on the subject of UFOs/aliens, they often tell me to "research god, read the bible, not this garbage". They get offended very easily.

What IS god to most religious people? They never actually say what it/he is. I have not read the entire bible, but I do know there are PLENTY of events that were written of that depict what I, and many others believe was some type of alien intervention. The 10 commandments, etc... I do believe we were(hopefully still are) being looked over by a higher intelligence and shown the correct path to go on, the correct laws of the universe, things that are just righteous. I would have no problem accepting the idea that "god" and his angels are aliens from another world that are MUCH more advanced than we are.

So my MAIN question goes, what REALLY is the difference? What's the big difference between god/angels being a higher intelligence from another world, compared to what religious people have their minds already set on? This is an honest question, no offense toward anyone is intended here and it's not a generalization.

the perfect one
28-04-2010, 09:49 PM
I dont think there is a difference but people get turned off by the word alien I think. I think they are one in the same.

innerlight
29-04-2010, 01:18 AM
perhaps because the Book of Enoch was taken out by the founder of modern Christianity, Constantine?

i don't see aliens as inherently bad. when i was in church, i was close minded to it. when i left church and put down the bible, i started exploring.

i also had the benefit of the Dulce experience to go by that we talked about.

the true demons I see operate in the name of Jesus. they are in churches world wide, on TV begging for money, on Forums condemning in the name of Jesus, etc etc...this also goes for Islamic/Judaic killers and rapists.

simply calling a UFO demonic b/c u don't understand it is, to me, ignorance. why Christians rant and proseltyze instead of researching, I've no idea. part of the conditioning i suppose.

orlibonurb
29-04-2010, 01:20 AM
What IS god to most religious people? They never actually say what it/he is.


Well, I'm a born-again Christian (not religious). Nonetheless, it is a good and honest thread.


The living God is,

• Supernatural in nature (as He exists outside of His creation)

• Incredibly powerful (to have created all that is known)

• Eternal (self-existent, as He exists outside of time and space)

• Omnipresent (He created space and is not limited by it)

• Timeless and changeless (He created time)

• Immaterial (because He transcends space)

• Personal (the impersonal can’t create personality)

• Necessary (as everything else depends on Him)

• Infinite and singular (as you cannot have two infinites)

• Diverse yet has unity (as nature exhibits diversity)

• Intelligent (supremely, to create everything)

• Purposeful (as He deliberately created everything)

• Moral (no moral law can exist without a lawgiver)

• Caring (or no moral laws would have been given)



The 10 commandments, etc... I do believe we were(hopefully still are) being looked over by a higher intelligence and shown the correct path to go on, the correct laws of the universe, things that are just righteous.

Yup, that's why we are all sinners. We aren't sinners because we break the commandments, but we break the commandments because we are sinners (hopefully this made some sense).

We just can't help it, it's our fallen nature. For instance, we are told not to lie, not even once. We have all done it obviously, but try and go for a week not lying. Let me know how you go. The purpose for the 10 commandments is to simply show us our true sinful nature and the need for redemption because the living God is super Holy & perfect. Of course He also absolutely loves you, that's why he became a man to die for you on the cross, for all the crimes you have commited against Him.

Romans {5:8} But God commendeth his love toward us, in that, while we were yet sinners, Christ died for us.




As for "UFO's / Aliens", I have no problem talking about this. I actually welcome it. They are demons / fallen angels. It can be easily proven. One example is that, all "alien abductions" stop at the name of Jesus. This is very, very blatant. Talk like a demon, act like a demon = you are a demon.

Most people who have those kind of experiences were somehow involved with the occult before, so they opened "doors". I just didn't say "UFO's / Aliens" are demons without having a proper understanding of what I'm saying, there's more to this of course.


So my MAIN question goes, what REALLY is the difference? What's the big difference between god/angels being a higher intelligence from another world, compared to what religious people have their minds already set on? This is an honest question, no offense toward anyone is intended here and it's not a generalization.

It's a spiritual war for your soul.

The whole thing about this is that we are being deceived like there's no tomorrow.

2 Corinthians {11:14} And no marvel; for Satan himself is transformed into an angel of light.


When we talk about fallen angels (Satan and his minions), we are not talking "mythological" per say, but talking about REAL spiritual beings, who have one purpose only (well, Satan does want to be worshipped like GOD Almighty too - Jesus, the one who is truilly looking and yearning for you to get saved), and that is to deceive you. To blind you from the truth,

2 Corinthians {4:4} In whom the god of this world hath blinded the minds of them which believe not, lest the light of the glorious gospel of Christ, who is the image of God, should shine unto them.


YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

metacomet
29-04-2010, 01:26 AM
perhaps because the Book of Enoch was taken out by the founder of modern Christianity, Constantine?

Yep.

Icke explains that Rome is the product of Babylon.

Babylon is the product of reptilians and demons setting up empires on Earth.

Babylonians do not want people to know the truth about all of this...

So, the Catholic Church/Constantine/Rome/Babylon highjacked the Christian religion and got rid of Christian texts which pretty much explained verbatim that we were the creation of 'Angels' intermingling with what was previously an untouched human race.

The Elohim and mention of the Watchers etc. remains untouched in the Bible, however... it's still there in Genesis.

And the "Let us create them in our image" line is still in there as well.

These all allude to us being the creation of other beings. Not just the one single God.

orlibonurb
29-04-2010, 01:32 AM
simply calling a UFO demonic b/c u don't understand it is, to me, ignorance. why Christians rant and proseltyze instead of researching, I've no idea. part of the conditioning i suppose.

Actually it's the exact opposite as usual.

If you trully research you'll find they are demons for a variety of reasons.


UFOs & Aliens: The Great Deception pt.1/8
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


UFOs: Fallen Angels & God(s) pt.1/3
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.


UFO's are from SATAN
UFO's Are From SATAN - YouTube


There is much, much more, but if you trully "research" as you said, then you got to take this in account, because there's undeniable evidence, unless you are skeptical (kinda like "evolutionists"), but if that's your case, then don't bring words like, "research", "open minded", "ignorance" or "conditioning" to the table.

Your logic right of the bat was fallable anyways, because calling a "UFO" of "evidence for life outside our planet" when they don't understand it is just as ignorant. It goes either way for the ones who say they are demons. One group is right thou, guess which is - ye, you guessed it "the closed minded" one (aka Christians) lol ....

but you see, for me - people who say "UFO's" are evidence for inteligent life out there are actually UNBELIEVABLY CLOSE MINDED lol ............. it goes either way, so the approach to such subject needs to be done in a different way, because if we go by the road of "ignorance", "conditioned", then I think the "UFO group" is the most blatantly ignorant and brainwashed I see on this planet (on top with the "evolution" cult).

01cobravortech
29-04-2010, 01:33 AM
If Christians studied the Nephilim topic and all that the Bible reveals regarding this enemy that took a 3rd of the angels in heaven with him, then they should have no problem realizing the deceptive nature of these so called "alien entities." God warned that in the last days He would send a strong delusion on the people to believe a lie because they did not love the truth. He event went as far as stating that if it were possible, this lie would deceive the elect (Christians). I've always wondered what could possibly get committed Christians to turn from the faith if it were possible? Maybe a mass appearance of ETs all over the planet, claiming to be the "builder gods" or claiming to have engineered mankind. Then following up that whopper with statements that Jesus was a bad ET that sent the earth a phony message? And how about this mass appearance of ETs occurring at the same time the "rapture" occurs. And these ET clowns claiming they had to take certain people off the planet in order for mankind to take its next step in evolutionary consciousness? As far as I see it, this planet is on the brink of facing a satanically driven, cosmic deception. And so many people are completely oblivious to what's headed this way. Plenty of abductees have been told about a coming "evacuation." You just need to use your wisdom to see what's right under your nose. Darwinism and the theory of evolution has been a global killer in terms of souls.

innerlight
29-04-2010, 01:57 AM
Yep.

Icke explains that Rome is the product of Babylon.

Babylon is the product of reptilians and demons setting up empires on Earth.

Babylonians do not want people to know the truth about all of this...

So, the Catholic Church/Constantine/Rome/Babylon highjacked the Christian religion and got rid of Christian texts which pretty much explained verbatim that we were the creation of 'Angels' intermingling with what was previously an untouched human race.

The Elohim and mention of the Watchers etc. remains untouched in the Bible, however... it's still there in Genesis.

And the "Let us create them in our image" line is still in there as well.

These all allude to us being the creation of other beings. Not just the one single God.

that was perfectly put Metacomet. very nice.

yes I've heard Jewish Christians talk before about the Elohim, I had it all wrong and thought it was a fancy name for Yahweh. Didn't realize it was plural.

i knock on the bible frequently, usually just to take the piss, but to me it is like a torn map. it has very important pieces missing. Book of Enoch being one piece.

the King James seems to be part of the Constantinian religion that we now have, which puts up with corrupt leadership in church and state, and is given over to the love of money.

Do you think the Watchers fell to other planets?

david chow
29-04-2010, 02:55 AM
Actually it's the exact opposite as usual.

If you trully research you'll find they are demons for a variety of reasons.




Do you believe all "aliens" are demons? All UFO's? I am only going half-way with you on this one. I do believe some UFO's/aliens are demonic. However I do believe there are good ones. How do you explain angels, even those mentioned in the bible? I do not believe every angel that visits earth has been banished from heaven and is here to deceive you, aka fallen angel. Why do they all have to be bad?

orlibonurb
29-04-2010, 03:01 AM
Do you believe all "aliens" are demons? All UFO's? I am only going half-way with you on this one. I do believe some UFO's/aliens are demonic. However I do believe there are good ones. How do you explain angels, even those mentioned in the bible? I do not believe every angel that visits earth has been banished from heaven and is here to deceive you, aka fallen angel. Why do they all have to be bad?

Good question again.

You are right, I know I kinda generalized it in the last post, but let's go over it all.


Question: "What does the Bible say about angels?"
http://www.gotquestions.org/angels-bible.html

Answer: Angels are personal spiritual beings who have intelligence, emotions, and will. This is true of both the good and evil angels (demons). Angels possess intelligence (Matthew 8:29; 2 Corinthians 11:3; 1 Peter 1:12), show emotion (Luke 2:13; James 2:19; Revelation 12:17), and exercise will (Luke 8:28-31; 2 Timothy 2:26; Jude 6). Angels are spirit beings (Hebrews 1:14) without true physical bodies. Although they do not have physical bodies, they are still personalities.

Because they are created beings, their knowledge is limited. This means they do not know all things as God does (Matthew 24:36). They do seem to have greater knowledge than humans, however, which may be due to three things. First, angels were created as an order of creatures higher than humans. Therefore, they innately possess greater knowledge. Second, angels study the Bible and the world more thoroughly than humans do and gain knowledge from it (James 2:19; Revelation 12:12). Third, angels gain knowledge through long observation of human activities. Unlike humans, angels do not have to study the past; they have experienced it. Therefore, they know how others have acted and reacted in situations and can predict with a greater degree of accuracy how we may act in similar circumstances.

Though they have wills, angels, like all creatures, are subject to the will of God. Good angels are sent by God to help believers (Hebrews 1:14). Here are some activities the Bible ascribes to angels:

They praise God (Psalm 148:1-2; Isaiah 6:3). They worship God (Hebrews 1:6; Revelation 5:8-13). They rejoice in what God does (Job 38:6-7). They serve God (Psalm 103:20; Revelation 22:9). They appear before God (Job 1:6; 2:1). They are instruments of God's judgments (Revelation 7:1; 8:2). They bring answers to prayer (Acts 12:5-10). They aid in winning people to Christ (Acts 8:26; 10:3). They observe Christian order, work, and suffering (1 Corinthians 4:9; 11:10; Ephesians 3:10; 1 Peter 1:12). They encourage in times of danger (Acts 27:23-24). They care for the righteous at the time of death (Luke 16:22).

Angels are an entirely different order of being than humans. Human beings do not become angels after they die. Angels will never become, and never were, human beings. God created the angels, just as He created humanity. The Bible nowhere states that angels are created in the image and likeness of God, as humans are (Genesis 1:26). Angels are spiritual beings that can, to a certain degree, take on physical form. Humans are primarily physical beings, but with a spiritual aspect. The greatest thing we can learn from the holy angels is their instant, unquestioning obedience to God’s commands.

Recommended Resource: Angels: Elect & Evil by C. Fred Dickason.


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Question: "What are the different types of angels?"
http://www.gotquestions.org/types-of-angels.html

Answer: Angels fall into two categories: the “unfallen” angels and the fallen angels. Unfallen angels are those who have remained holy throughout their existence and accordingly are called “holy angels” (Matthew 25:31). In Scripture, generally when angels are mentioned, it is the class of holy angels in view. By contrast, the fallen angels are those who have not maintained their holiness. Holy angels fall into special classes, and certain individuals are named and mentioned. Michael the archangel is likely the head of all the holy angels, and his name means “who is like unto God?” (Daniel 10:21; 12:1; 1 Thessalonians 4:16; Jude 9; Revelation 12:7-10). Gabriel is one of the principal messengers of God, his name meaning “hero of God,” and was entrusted with important messages such as those delivered to Daniel (Daniel 8:16; 9:21), to Zacharias (Luke 1:18-19), and to Mary (Luke 1:26-38).

Most holy angels are not given names but are described only as “elect angels” (1 Timothy 5:21). The expressions “principalities” and “powers” seem to be used of all angels whether fallen or holy (Luke 21:26; Romans 8:38; Ephesians 1:21; 3:10; Colossians 1:16; 2:10, 15; 1 Peter 3:22). Some angels are designated as “cherubim,” which are living creatures who defend God’s holiness from any defilement of sin (Genesis 3:24; Exodus 25: 18, 20; Ezekiel 1:1-18). “Seraphim” are another class of angels mentioned only once in Scripture in Isaiah 6:2-7 and are described as having three pairs of wings. They apparently have the function of praising God, being God’s messengers to Earth, and are especially concerned with the holiness of God. Most of the references to holy angels in Scripture refer to their ministries which cover a wide field of achievement. They were present at creation, the giving of the Law, at the birth of Christ and at His resurrection, at the Ascension, and they will be present at the Rapture of the Church and the Second Coming of Christ.

In stark contrast to the company of holy angels, the fallen angels are also innumerable and are described as fallen from their first estate. Led by Satan, who was originally a holy angel, the fallen angels defected, rebelled against God, and became sinful in their nature and work. Fallen angels have been divided into two classes: those who are free and those who are bound. Of the fallen angels, Satan alone is given particular mention in the Bible. When Satan fell (John 8:44; Luke 10:18), he drew after him one third of the angels. Of those, some are reserved in chains awaiting judgment (1 Corinthians 6:3; 2 Peter 2:4; Jude 6), and the remainder are free and are the demons, or devils, to whom reference is constantly made throughout the New Testament (Mark 5:9, 15; Luke 8:30, 1 Timothy 4:1). They are Satan’s servants in all his undertakings and share his doom (Matthew 25:41; Revelation 20:10).

Recommended Resource: Angels: Elect & Evil by C. Fred Dickason.


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http://www.gotquestions.org/questions_angels.html

armoured_amazon
29-04-2010, 03:04 AM
I dont think there is a difference but people get turned off by the word alien I think. I think they are one in the same.

Yeah. God created everything. I think some religious people (like my mum) refuse to accept that if God is Infinite, then we're not necessarily the only creations. For example, the Bible doesn't mention irrelevant stuff, so it had no need to mention non-Earth data in detail, because it's largely irrelevant to Earth dwelling. Basic Information Before Leaving Earth. Plus, what some people experience as aliens, some experience as demons. :)

blackyblue
29-04-2010, 04:01 AM
I posted this in the General forum but got no responses, should have done it here to begin with.

I often find when discussing aliens/other intelligent life with religious(Christian) friends, they can have a bit of a problem with the idea. They often think I am trying to take them "away from god" and they just find all things negative about just even researching it. They get absolutely furious over the idea that we were created by an alien race. When I discuss things on the subject of UFOs/aliens, they often tell me to "research god, read the bible, not this garbage". They get offended very easily.

What IS god to most religious people? They never actually say what it/he is. I have not read the entire bible, but I do know there are PLENTY of events that were written of that depict what I, and many others believe was some type of alien intervention. The 10 commandments, etc... I do believe we were(hopefully still are) being looked over by a higher intelligence and shown the correct path to go on, the correct laws of the universe, things that are just righteous. I would have no problem accepting the idea that "god" and his angels are aliens from another world that are MUCH more advanced than we are.

So my MAIN question goes, what REALLY is the difference? What's the big difference between god/angels being a higher intelligence from another world, compared to what religious people have their minds already set on? This is an honest question, no offense toward anyone is intended here and it's not a generalization.

I find people use the term 'christian' loosely!

I am sorry but i feel people in this day and age use anything they can find to further insult religion and make the believers feel stupid and under-educated!

Infact i feel that insulting religion has in it'self become a religion that people have become obsessed with.
I take it by your almost blasphemous use of the word Christian that you yourself do not consider yourself christian.
What exactly do you mean when you say ALL christians? Do you mean to say that you interviewed a couple of people that just happened to be christian and did not believe in the possibility of aliens? Or do you mean to say you conducted a world-wide study into your awakening 'BELIEF', in which case i would take your findings to the news of the world because this will be very interesting. I myself am a christian that believes we are direct descendants of ET.
And this thing works both ways. I am sure there are plenty of UFO believers out there that DON'T accept god. But i would not say that ALL UFO believers don't accept god.
Perhaps the christians don't dis-believe the possibility of other things outside the realms of this world, after-all this is what christianity 'and MOST other religions' is about DUH, and they may well be bigger believers than you, perhaps it is the way you came across to them, that makes them not wish to discuss there beliefs with you as they sense you are just another athiest trying to mock their beliefs and their general knowledge.
And you would have proved them right as you come onto a public forum with nothing other than over assumptious thoughts and 'BELIEFS' with no basis nor evidence and try to portray it as fact! NONSENSE

But what is your concepts on religious devide? i would love to hear. Would it be possible just for one second that religious devides are created by slightly differing beliefs and icons of worship due to the fact that we are descended from different inter-planetoid species? Do you think this is not a belief among the radical extremists and shared among the followers or is it just your blurred and hazed vision of what it is you believe the 'CHRISTIANS' "or whatever" to be thinking when they talk about believeing in things OUT-WITH THIS DIMENSION, never mind planet!

Also what you have to remember is that from a christian point of view all Jesus was, was a messenger from a different dimension that came with a devine message that we are ALL the sons and daughters of GOD.
Now i don't know what picture YOU would paint on this GOD. But god is the creater and ruler of ALL things and species 'and this includes your little green men', and to TRUE believers what lies in-between does not really matter because it all comes down to one thing, GOD EXISTS. DO YOU UNDERSTAND THIS?

Also i would like to add, that for a long time it has been a FALSE 'belief' "not fact" that ALL christians get mad because others don't believe and they get called bashers. Now, this is false as in actual fact it is only SOME christians and a very small minority at that. But, after listening to all the complaints why is it that those same non believers get so MAD when others don't buy into all this sci-fi technology stuff? And you said yourself in your post that it makes you MAD! Or, am i being over assumptious?

Also you will find that when your friends tell you to read the bible. It is NOT because they don't believe in things out-with this realm, it is to show you that you are only half way there with your theories but you fail to understand the greater scale and so is no point having the conversation because what you are telling them is nothing that they have not been believing in since Genesis and blinkin exodus!

Cos everything that science is discovering today and everything that science will discover till the end of days and everything David Icke talks about today has ALREADY BEEN WRITTEN ABOUT IN THE BIBLE FOR THOUSANDS OF YEARS! and if you think that everything we are learning today is new and eye-opening then READ THE BIBLE!!!! The reason you think this is all new and that you are a messenger of the new belief is cos you AINT BLOODY READ IT!!

READ THE BIBLE!!!!!!

david chow
29-04-2010, 05:14 AM
I find people use the term 'christian' loosely!

I am sorry but i feel people in this day and age use anything they can find to further insult religion and make the believers feel stupid and under-educated!

Infact i feel that insulting religion has in it'self become a religion that people have become obsessed with.
I take it by your almost blasphemous use of the word Christian that you yourself do not consider yourself christian.
What exactly do you mean when you say ALL christians? Do you mean to say that you interviewed a couple of people that just happened to be christian and did not believe in the possibility of aliens? Or do you mean to say you conducted a world-wide study into your awakening 'BELIEF', in which case i would take your findings to the news of the world because this will be very interesting. I myself am a christian that believes we are direct descendants of ET.
And this thing works both ways. I am sure there are plenty of UFO believers out there that DON'T accept god. But i would not say that ALL UFO believers don't accept god.
Perhaps the christians don't dis-believe the possibility of other things outside the realms of this world, after-all this is what christianity is about and they may well be bigger believers than you, perhaps it is the way you came across to them, that makes them not wish to discuss there beliefs with you as they sense you are just another athiest trying to mock their beliefs and their general knowledge.And you would have proved them right as you come onto a public forum with nothing other than over assumptious thoughts and 'BELIEFS' with no basis nor evidence and try to portray it as fact! NONSENSE

Also i would like to add, that for a long time it has been a FALSE 'belief' "not fact" that ALL christians get mad because others don't believe and they get called bashers. Now, this is false as in actual fact it is only SOME christians and a very small minority at that. But, after listening to all the complaints why is it that those same non believers get so MAD when others don't buy into all this sci-fi technology stuff? And you said yourself in your post that it makes you MAD! Or, am i being over assumptious?

Also you will find that when your friends tell you to read the bible. It is NOT because they don't believe in things out-with this realm, it is to show you that there is no point having the conversation because what you are telling them is nothing that they have not been believing in since Genesis!

Yes, in fact you are being very assumptive and out of line. Re-read my post, it seems you did not read it very clearly. If you are looking to rant on the subject of atheists insulting religion and the blasphemous use of the word "Christian", start a new thread please. Once again, there was no intent to offend anyone in my first post and it was NOT a generalization of "all Christians" by any means.

lawliet
29-04-2010, 10:02 PM
Religious people have this religious glasses that filtrates anything they can see, hear and understand, they are close minded idiots. If they get offended by what you say, they can suck it up, dominant pigs trying to control others.

I also think this is a possibilty, that god and his angels were aliens. I believe might have been several alien races, a conflict between angels and then some of them lose and become fallen angels. "the gods arrived in heavenly boats, from the sky" what kind of retard doesn't understand that this might have been a UFO aircraft? Allot of things like this in religious texts =\

01cobravortech
29-04-2010, 10:11 PM
Religious people have this religious glasses that filtrates anything they can see, hear and understand, they are close minded idiots. If they get offended by what you say, they can suck it up, dominant pigs trying to control others.

I also think this is a possibilty, that god and his angels were aliens. I believe might have been several alien races, a conflict between angels and then some of them lose and become fallen angels. "the gods arrived in heavenly boats, from the sky" what kind of retard doesn't understand that this might have been a UFO aircraft? Allot of things like this in religious texts =\

Its funny just about every country in the world is controlled by secular leadership, not religious leadership. But religious people are the dominant pigs? Why don't you really come out and say what you feel inside? What you're really trying to say is that you can't stand people that reject today's politically correct messages and ultra tolerant messages telling people that there should be no moral judgments made by anyone. That's probably the issue at the center of your feelings. In this day and age, no one is being forced to believe anything the Bible has to say. Religious bigots have always existed. Today it isn't any different. We have plenty in America.

innerlight
29-04-2010, 10:58 PM
Its funny just about every country in the world is controlled by secualr leadership, not religious leadership. But religious people are the dominant pigs? Why don't you really come out and say what you feel inside? What you're really trying to say is that you can't stand people that reject today's politically correct messages and ultra tolerant messages telling people that there should be no moral judgments made by anyone. That's probably the issue at the center of your feelings. In this day and age, no one is being forced to believe anything the Bible has to say. Religious bigots have always existed. Today it isn't any different. We have plenty in America.


yes you are not a dominant pig who tries to dominate every discussion with your martrydome attitude and self righteous behavior.......everyone else is wrong....not you....certainly not you......you are born again....you have no faults......EVERYONE is wrong......but you.....curious? where in America are you? :D

flint island
29-04-2010, 11:11 PM
God the Father is believed to be the creator of all the Universe.

So if you are suggesting to Christians that some alien race created them - then that dosent sound like a all loving creator father but more a gentic experiemnet by some strange little green men.

I think that aliens if they exist (never had any experience of any myself) are demonic.

I dont think other innocent creatures from other planets have visited here to make friendly contact because I dont think God would have created this earth and for people who didnt belong here from other planets to interfere with this earth.

Maybe other planets / beings exist = but they have no business meddling with earth and human beings

And the Bible suggests that other planets and beings do not exist outside of heaven

As in Gods plan in the Bible - Heaven comes down to Earth and then Earth becomes the centre of all the Universe with Christ and Humans and Angels all dwelling on Heaven on Earth.

01cobravortech
29-04-2010, 11:18 PM
yes you are not a dominant pig who tries to dominate every discussion with your martrydome attitude and self righteous behavior.......everyone else is wrong....not you....certainly not you......you are born again....you have no faults......EVERYONE is wrong......but you.....curious? where in America are you? :D

Oh I'm a dominant pig because I share my opinion? Its funny how that works. I express an opinion that you don't like, so that makes me a dominant pig. But if someone shares an opinion that you like and supports or is similar to your worldview, they aren't a dominant pig. Makes perfect sense to me. :rolleyes: Remember no one is forcing you to believe anything. So just come out state that you don't want any biblical believers to have a RIGHT to express their opinion. Fascists have this very mindset.

dedicate
30-04-2010, 01:54 AM
I didn't have to go very far to figure out what this post was really about. I thought maybe it would be a discussion about what a "religious person" might be. That was an off chance.

Then,, the old aliens-is-the-answer-to-all-deep-questions dismissal theory. That one is starting to grow mold. But it is coming back for some reason, and who knows, they might even have a landing soon for us to observe. Wouldn't that be neat.

I wonder what they are going to look like. Or will it resemble a Philip Dick novel, where we never get to see them except thru some blurry television monitor,,, because they are at constant war with us? Blowing us to smithereens via N-guns and E-rays? But really and secretly, the one-world government is behind it all, working to subvert and enslave the people, building prison like cities for the unsuspecting people to live "saftly"; A Brave New World. The oldest trick in the book. Will they use that?

innerlight
30-04-2010, 03:34 AM
Oh I'm a dominant pig because I share my opinion? Its funny how that works. I express an opinion that you don't like, so that makes me a dominant pig. But if someone shares an opinion that you like and supports or is similar to your worldview, they aren't a dominant pig. Makes perfect sense to me. :rolleyes: Remember no one is forcing you to believe anything. So just come out state that you don't want any biblical believers to have a RIGHT to express their opinion. Fascists have this very mindset.


you are RIGHT!!! :D Just like Christians, I don't want anyone who disagrees with me to have any rights or opinions :D

My real name is Torquemada! You shall bow down to my Inquisition, you DOMINANT PIG, and agree with me, or I will cut your nuts off with a spoon!

Actually it wouldn't be so bloody bothersome if you lot acted like Christ, its just that you seem to mainly talk about Christ but have no understanding of forgiveness and unconditional love. Hense the Zionism and such.

You never got back with me about what Jesus says about lying jews in Revelation? It's up at the front where he is admonishing the 7 churches, not hard to find. Sounds like he wasn't much of a Zionist.

Love you mate :)