is this enough proof

[kimball13]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=48&pictureid=7070

base of skull, there is more detail to it but then i dont have a very high class scanner.

[killuminatiist]

nothings showing?

[decim]

Quote to show?

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=48&pictureid=7070

base of skull, there is more detail to it but then i dont have a very high class scanner.

[killuminatiist]

Nope still cant see anything.

[kimball13]

Nope still cant see anything.

strange, you dont see the rectangle,,,,,,,,owell i supose the must mean ths forum is full of liers and whatnot that just choose to play games.

ohwell i suppose you have your shallow reasons.

[killmicrosoft]

Nothing their

[mr stoppitall]

strange, you dont see the rectangle,,,,,,,,owell i supose the must mean ths forum is full of liers and whatnot that just choose to play games.

ohwell i suppose you have your shallow reasons.
No silly, the pic is still not showing.

[kimball13]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=7067&albumid=48&dl=1272348560&thumb=1


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=7070&albumid=48&dl=1272349209&thumb=1

[kimball13]

No silly, the pic is still not showing.

your saying its not coming up on the internet,,,,,,,,funny i can see it on my page.

[mr stoppitall]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=7067&albumid=48&dl=1272348560&thumb=1


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?pictureid=7070&albumid=48&dl=1272349209&thumb=1

www.upshizzle.com host it here...

[kimball13]

http://upshizzle.com/pfiles/1003/blowup1.jpg


on the originals i can make out more parts to it, it is not known to me, or well it might be im not sure.

[kimball13]

http://upshizzle.com/pfiles/1004/blowup.jpg

[mr stoppitall]

What is it meant to be?

[killuminatiist]

Now its showing, whats that a micro chip?

[mr stoppitall]

can you feel anything under your skin?

For what purpose was the x-ray taken at the time and did the doctor pass comment about the rectangular object?

[kimball13]

there is more, that didnt come out on the scanner,,,,,,,,a kinda coil,,,,,,,,there are others on other films.

they are inhibitors due to dreams i had as a little boy,,,,,,,also for memory repression.


im one of the ones they refuse to allow to be themselves,,,,,as well as not make any reparations or such.

who the fuck was i huh,,,,,,,,,,who the fuck did you use Rama for,,,,,,,,,ya those fucking dreams you fucking assholes.

ya right before i stopped dreaming of that time,,,,,,,,,,you fuckers,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and you constantly justifie it by fucking whti me in public coupled with letting some of my stuff activate and being hit without notice my body doing what i naturaly does,,,,,,,,well,,,,,,,,read the thread.

i dont want to talk about it to much right now.

the King Arthur coverup,,,,,,,,Vadjra and Excalibur,,,,,,,,,,,pendragon, rama, daggobert etc:eek:,,,,,,,,,,,,so now maybe they will let me setttle this crap.


without just enslaving me assholes,,,,,,,,,,,,sorry but ive know for sure for 8 fucking years.

[kimball13]

look up Delgado and Kipkey.

and well i dont want to let that out just now, do to others out there that have taken my reparations and such as well as my honor,,,,,,,,,,,,as in fucking medles ya you motherfucker,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,this is my safty,,,,,,,,,,,,its fucking monday.

what else should i say.

im not Hoot, by the way and im not as old as you might think.


the first mission i can recolect is beruit 1983 to find the guys blowing marines up,,,,,,,,,,,ya i found em and got them,,,,,,,,,and how old,,,,,,,,,,,13.

thing is i think i like going after murders,,,,,,,,,,,thing also is i know the differnce between a freedom fighter and terrorist,,,,,,,,,,,,please read the thread ive spent two years on,,,,,,,,,,,while battleing them that dont want me coming to,.

[mr stoppitall]

Your X-ray proves nothing and your last two posts belong on a shithouse wall somwhere in soho.

[kimball13]

one job ended in 88 and then well,,,,,,,,,,,,,who knows,,,,,,,,,,,,,but think for a moment,,,,,,,,,,what guy went over there and well i will just say it was as far as i feal about it a good thing,,,,,,but what i wasnt aware of is an electronic split or subduing of my memories,,,,,,,,,,,no wonder i have been so mistreated,,,,,,,,,,.

so mutant strain no,,,,,,,,,just something that well simply put evil fears.

after all imagine if Rama did come back.

So actualy just maybe from 77 on a child ran the show,,,,,,,,,and when they think they can do it themselves well i get tortured.

So for the record, it maybe was a father son kinda thing or uncle or whatever,,,,,,,,,,who knows,,,,,,,,,,,thing is why not,,,,,,,,,other proffesions do it and well if Rama is around and is better than the rest:eek: at 13,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,makes sense kimball13, must be part of what was done back in 76.

[runlikehell]

What is it meant to be?


Nibiru! :eek:

[kimball13]

Your X-ray proves nothing and your last two posts belong on a shithouse wall somwhere in soho.

realy,,,,,,,,why not,,,,,,,,,,wow,,,,,,,,,,did i hit a nerve.

so if i tell you what it feals like and such will that make you happy.

im thinking about others here,,,,,,,,so please.

there are more involved in this that my fealings and yours.

is it wrong of me to feal a sense of pride going afte those that killed men that may have acualy treated me with love and respect,,,,,,,even though some of them probley torutred me,,,,,,,,,,,,,but then what do i know.

hate to be so upset about it myself.

but hay, its not a beebee under the skin.

[mr stoppitall]

How do you expect anyone to make sense of anything you have said?
You did not hit a nerve at all, I was trying to provoke a response that I could understand. :confused:

[kimball13]

contempt prior to investigation is very dangerouse to do in my case.

trust me on that.

ive lost every thing,,,,,,,,i have one memorie of one of my children,,,,,,,,,,,,i was hit from behind and tied up,,,,,,,,,,,,and woke up with my son across the room,,,,,,,,,,,,when i had that flash i hit my knees,,,,,,,,,nothing makes me hit my knees but that did.

so, i realy want to just say go fuck yourselvs,,,,,,,,,,,but it is because i wish i could just tell it all in a microsecond.

please check out the link in my sig.


so how many did i say did this in othe posts,,,,,,,,,,,1860 so think about the odds ive been up against.

ive lost everything,,,,,,,,,been slanderd, and files doctored etc.

i dont feal like writting all the details,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe a moderator should put the king arthur coverup thread in the news section.

[kimball13]

How do you expect anyone to make sense of anything you have said?
You did not hit a nerve at all, I was trying to provoke a response that I could understand. :confused:

ok well that path was tried by some.

im sure others have ment well,,,,,,,,,,but that keeps memeories for returning.

ive been having a major change.

what you are reading is what is reality in this stuff,,,,,,,,,,,,not some guy on project camelot.

as in Dan Burisch and Duncan Offinian,,,,,,,,,,who are they supposed to be Dan busch and Mace.:eek:

na i dont think so,,,,,,,,,,,,two guys with bits of my story.

this is why im a bit upset.

i need help to better explain this but then i dont have someone sitting here doing an interveiw and my typeing skills and grammmer and spelling as well as stress levels.


oh and now a helicopter goes by about 100 feat of the ground.

oh and im not by a base by the way.

So i know im coverd,,,,,,,,i also know the Military is pissed just as i am.

Fort hood for example could have been averted,,,,,,,,,the twin towers etc.

the reader digest version.

and the abiotic hydrogen a key to curring aids.

oh ya in experimental testing in coloradoe from what i hear.
howmuch have i done,,,,,,,,,,,,,well injsut the past 8 years while dealing with this also allot,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,im sure enough reward money and such to pay the antional deficit,,,,,,,,,,,,,see spoonerism typeing funny huh,.

well anywasy i need a cigaret.

or a cigar,,been smoking those since 76,,,,,,nice movie scene but i did consult on any of it.

so to thos that blamed me for whatever take a look at what money they got and what i did not.

[kimball13]

more than just a delta theta programing.

more of a deprogramer that is tasked as also well.

dam i wrote it down already.
,,,


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32526

[morphman]

im sure its not just me that has no bloody idea what you are talking about!!!!!!:rolleyes:

[pessi_optimist]

Look man/woman, just write what you have to write IN COHERENT SENTENCES. It is not that difficult. As it stands it's just mass of narccisistic nonsense.

If you don't actually want anyone to understand what you are getting at then don't bother posting this rubbish.

[kryst]

Are you high?

[kimball13]

micro chip's, let me see and then i just noticed most of my ribs are broken int hte x-ray.

must have been worse than i thought so because i wasnt in pain the doctors just let it slide,,,,,,,,dam.

so,,,,,,,,i wonder why and what realy happend.

ohya i forgot there are many out there jeoulouse under the guies of being humble and whatnot.
well sorry for you Cain attitude.

and well my step father used those tactics as well as the group that mistreated me growing up.

such as over lookng broken ribs and basic stuff.

so why am i not more violent or what ever,,,,,,,oh but then i didnt sell out.
i dont agree and never can to pedophiles, sorry but there is no way and well i suppose some places have a few in there midst.

oh dont worry about those like me,,,,,,,,,,just as ive got they have also,,,,,,,,,call it a drop button, a kill switch.

they cannot figure out how i started to break the handicapping mechinisms.,,,,,,,,that basicly made me a kinda punching bag.

and yes there are simple ways to find those that are in the know and still choose to try to stall and such.

maybe othe things such as them doing a botched surgery when iwas a child.


this was when the found i had a sphincer of to the side that was kinda atrafied to i went from zero bowel control to about 5%


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=3390

that was at two and a half


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=3415



http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=5394


here it is, in book form,,,,,,,Psychic dictatorship in the USA, by Ales Constantine.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=5392

and the ones i go after and why they needed me out of the way to do there sick evil crap. and why i was made differnt to perform anther task first and formost, to find and help as well as the ones doing it.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=5395



http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=5393


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=5391


my grandfather was a very high level mason and Templar

[kimball13]

strange i never thought i would thank God for the internet but cool, after all God works in mysterious ways.

and well this is not only personal but also a matter of Human Security, not just national security.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=7071

[killmicrosoft]

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[kimball13]

i refernce this book as well as my medical records because they supply a condensed version of whats up.


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=7073

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=7076


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=7075


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=7074

[ferret]

mate nobody has any clue what your talking about. can u tell your story from the beggining and without so much anger? please, its not that were not interestested, but take a breath man x

[mikey mikey]

@OP
There are very patient an open minded people on DIF that are more than willing to listen to you.

Calm down. Write it down on paper. Then type it in.

I am sure many people will not dismiss nor judge you.

Tell us what happened to you in the least painful way you can.

okay?

[kimball13]

mate nobody has any clue what your talking about. can u tell your story from the beggining and without so much anger? please, its not that were not interestested, but take a breath man x


ya your right, and ive been cutting down on my medication, which puts me into a state of hyper awareness,,,,,,this as well as i realy nead answers and my rightful place.

ya it is kinda complicated.

then false promises and crap, ya its fucked, alright well.

to bad for some, ya im a bit upset in waves, bt then what do you think is happending, after all


when i have memories i get a bit goofy and dizzy, it goea away, but well that is part of it so its not just my medical caniibis,,,,,,,,,ive had to do my own treatment to heal from and preventing ptsd takng hold,,,,
im not angry im just trying to get to the point as quike as possible.

sorry.

oh im not replying to your post here at times im just answering questions about narsism.

oh but then im just supposed to do something everytime, ya thats the way its been, so ohwell i dont realy care about those that think im just some tortured soul,,,,,,,,,my soul is untouched, my heart aches at times from sorrow, not guilt nor shame, but sorrow about the cruel things man does to there neighbors,,,,,,then some even blame me thinking reality is what i create,,,,,,,,,,,are they crazy, no i dont have much say in what God creates but protecting it ya.

this goes into so many areas.

i realy should be recieving medical help as well as reparations as well as my heriditary rights due to there incesant attacks on my person with my own family crowns and property,,,,,,,,,,strange but true, and believe me i tried to disprove.

oh but i suppose they expect some kinda crazy shift in reality, well then just maybe ive had to do the imposible powerd by faith
realy i dont intend to put on air's.

take for example how a paramedic might act at an acident,,,,,,,,that is the frame of mind im in at the moment but for me its like five people.
the way people take such a person on the scene of an acident know out of common sense that its not anger or personal.

actualy im the calmest.

i have a clear acceptance, yet due to some that dont want me to heal and come out of it are realy scared.

thing is i cant write it all down right now, its 315am.


this has to do with allot of what is on this forum.
i should be attending to matters other than telling my story.
i dont have the skills to write it down in the way most are acostome to from public schooling, i am better at instrucinting or teaching,,,,,,,,,,,,,i prefer on directing in emergency's or matters of importance.

not out of some grandiouse scale, it seems in reverse,,,,,,,,,,and when i accept it it scares me to tell you the truth because of the resposobility so to tell you te truth i guess i allow the attacks,,,,,,can you blame me.

have you seen men who stare at goats.

i dont play around like others do because it can be allot more devastating.
especialy if a child is in danger or inocent,,,,,,,,,,,its crazy weird but because of being hinderd constantly and under abusive attacks of all sorts for 39 years,,,,,,,,,,,i have no choice but to accept it.
trust me if you only knew how i feal and how i dont take myself as above anyone,,,,,,,






alright im going to bed, head ache and dizzy, but after im better so maybe what ever it is is finnaly deactivating, just wish it was in a better space and place.

[kimball13]

@OP
There are very patient an open minded people on DIF that are more than willing to listen to you.

Calm down. Write it down on paper. Then type it in.

I am sure many people will not dismiss nor judge you.

Tell us what happened to you in the least painful way you can.

okay?

my hand cramp when i try to write by hand.

since i first held a pencil.

paper work freaks me out.

even thought tests and stuff used to be easy.
still score high for some reason highr than i should.

alright im going to take a deap breath and gather myself and come back to this tomorow,,,,,,,,reason is these are the clearest pictures ive got the other ones its not as detailed.:D

so realy im over joyed,,,,,,,,,,,,but ive been kinda messed with all day and i dont have any cigarets.

so to much oxigen, its a long story.


i just want to say i am greatfull for the member so the david icke forum.

realy, actualy i happy i have proofe enough to feal comfrotabl eenough to compliment others and let people in without worring that they would find themselves in finacial ruin and whatnot, thing is there health mind and body get bette as well as spiritual well being.

but ive been battleing allot of demons, not of my making nore desire to even tolerate.

with that im going to bed, oh and demons come in many forms.

[kimball13]

for example on the thread about king arthur most did not argue nor judge harshly, this helped me greatly and i am thankfull.

[tony le mesmer]

ya your right, and ive been cutting down on my medication, which puts me into a state of hyper awareness.

See a doctor.

peace and love. Get well man.

[ytch]

Well, it´s hard to read through your posts, kimball,
but it seems worth it.

All those newly- joined posters giving
shxx to you in a harsh way without any obvious reason,
just add credibility to yours and others cases.

Be strong,

Love & Laughter,

y

P.S.::)

[whiterain]

hi kimball ill have another look at your king arthur coverup thread because it looked interesting, if massively long the last time i looked. perhaps a new post with a summary of the info in it would help other people be able to understand your problems and try to help. hope you find some peace mate

[whiterain]

See a doctor.

peace and love. Get well man.

my friend there are some ailments that western doctors can only make worse. although seeing someone who actually knows about this stuff could help

[w0rm]

http://i2.photobucket.com/albums/y19/Siavan/cool_story_bro.jpg

[tony le mesmer]

my friend there are some ailments that western doctors can only make worse. although seeing someone who actually knows about this stuff could help

what stuff ? paranoid schizophrenia ?

I'd recommend a good psychiatrist. Who would you suggest ?

[whiterain]

what stuff ? paranoid schizophrenia ?

I'd recommend a good psychiatrist. Who would you suggest ?

im not in the least bit qualified to comment on a persons health simply by reading a couple of their posts.

for a suggestion though you would probably enjoy life more if you just went back to the alan partridge dvd's rather than coming someplace just to argue with people you disagree with. peace

whether or not you think any of kimballs story is true, things just like it, and even weirder are happening now across the world.

[mediatrix]

strange i never thought i would thank God for the internet but cool, after all God works in mysterious ways.

and well this is not only personal but also a matter of Human Security, not just national security.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=7071

“Since “apocalypse” is such an over-used and cheapened term, it is important to recall its precise meaning in the Abrahamic religions. An apocalypse is literally the revelation of the Secret History of the world as becomes possible under the terrible clarity of the Last Days.It is the alternate, despised history of the subaltern classes, the defeated peoples, the extinct cultures.”
Mike Davis, from ‘WHITE PEOPLE ARE ONLY A BAD DREAM’ an essay from DEAD CITIES AND OTHER TALES, 2002, The New Press, New York

A "terrible clarity" made possible by the internet.

[mediatrix]

I'd recommend a good psychiatrist.

No such thing.

[ytch]

No such thing.

++1...

Oh no, wait, there is one!

Just down the street, next to the honest lawyer...

[cultofexperience]

++1...

Oh no, wait, there is one!

Just down the street, next to the honest lawyer...

lol :D

I think they share an apartment with my ex-husband :p

[kimball13]

See a doctor.

peace and love. Get well man.

actualy i have and if you have read the thread then you may have seen just a bit of my medical records.

or is it an agenda that you have that prevents you from noticing a truth about something because it may interrupt a profit margin.

and as a matter of fact, i have, test have shown i am the most mentaly stable person they have ever tested, hence why they offerd to send me to any college in the country for two years to prep for Quantico, so it is rather interesting isnt it, it took over 1800 people to screw me up with false diagnosises of which ended up coutnering eachother, as well as my symtomology correlated with a time line in conjuntion with the medications they were giving me here and else where in the mental health feild.

if you give a person medication for schizophrenia that is not shizo effective in any way then they will display shizo effective symtomology and when the chemical is removed the the person should revert to there normal state has been my expereince personaly.

another example that causes a layman in pscology to misdiagnose, usualy one in school or arrogant.

i am a center brain thinker, not only in left and right, but also front and back.
this helps in multi tasking, and is usualy only found in women, well im not to femanine unless it comes to war then the inner amozon comes out:D

So what you see there is an inhibitor.

look up what an azigos is, or a renal vein, and an inferior vena cava.

the first two are larger by a 1/3, more flow to brain and vital organs.

the inferrior vena cava is what brings the used blood back up from the lower legs, i dont have one, in its place is a large number of colateral arteries.

go look those things up then judge me,,,,,,,,,oh and by the way im naturaly that way, and well i think ah heck check this out,,,,,,,you think maybe they were trying to make others like me:eek:.

Exposure to the equine-derived polyclonal antithymocyte preparation, ATGAM, frequently elicits human anti-ATGAM antibody formation. The influence of concomitant immunosuppressants on this antiantibody response has not been established. We therefore evaluated IgG antibody formation to ATGAM in 47 patients receiving ATGAM as part of a prospective, randomized, double-blinded study of mycophenolate mofetil versus azathioprine for maintenance immunosuppression after primary cadaveric renal transplantation


a fucking mutant that they want to recreate for war industry.
Titre du document / Document title
Reduced human IgG anti-ATGAM antibody formation in renal transplant recipients receiving mycophenolate mofetil
Auteur(s) / Author(s)
KIMBALL J. A. (1) ; PESCOVITZ M. D. ; BOOK B. K. ; NORMAN D. J. (1) ;
Affiliation(s) du ou des auteurs / Author(s) Affiliation(s)
(1) Oregona health sci. univ., lab. immunogenetics transplantation, Portland OR 97201, ETATS-UNIS


http://cat.inist.fr/?aModele=afficheN&cpsidt=2978556

[kimball13]

http://docs.google.com/viewer?pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShomzHo-83MAELH6_LIOBEIfBgKAfHD-7yU6cRPt4oho77SjLlSk3AyI3mbZl4zTz9Se2iLxnR6vG_U79H G5CGItrcDRDkKLv_gFHsQ5iH9ZfqP2CL1QBevzywq_7L6gj4yr N93&q=cache%3AkzCP8n7zBKQJ%3Adocuments.theblackvault.c om%2Fdocuments%2Fmindcontrol%2FADA075694.pdf%20soc ial%20influencing%2C%201979%20black%20vault&docid=19fbe1c82e1bbaa79dbff93950896248&a=bi&pagenumber=3&w=800


this is why i was differnt than the others, my primary mission to put it simply is to shut this crap down to a minumum kinda thing.

[kimball13]

http://docs.google.com/viewer?pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShomzHo-83MAELH6_LIOBEIfBgKAfHD-7yU6cRPt4oho77SjLlSk3AyI3mbZl4zTz9Se2iLxnR6vG_U79H G5CGItrcDRDkKLv_gFHsQ5iH9ZfqP2CL1QBevzywq_7L6gj4yr N93&q=cache%3AkzCP8n7zBKQJ%3Adocuments.theblackvault.c om%2Fdocuments%2Fmindcontrol%2FADA075694.pdf%20soc ial%20influencing%2C%201979%20black%20vault&docid=19fbe1c82e1bbaa79dbff93950896248&a=bi&pagenumber=2&w=800

not that i wasnt around the area just before this was published and classified:eek:

[kimball13]

http://docs.google.com/viewer?pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShomzHo-83MAELH6_LIOBEIfBgKAfHD-7yU6cRPt4oho77SjLlSk3AyI3mbZl4zTz9Se2iLxnR6vG_U79H G5CGItrcDRDkKLv_gFHsQ5iH9ZfqP2CL1QBevzywq_7L6gj4yr N93&q=cache%3AkzCP8n7zBKQJ%3Adocuments.theblackvault.c om%2Fdocuments%2Fmindcontrol%2FADA075694.pdf%20soc ial%20influencing%2C%201979%20black%20vault&docid=19fbe1c82e1bbaa79dbff93950896248&a=bi&pagenumber=4&w=800

just maybe they would pick a boy tht might just be able to pull it off;)

he would have to be a bit of a kinda weird strain, as in have the mental physical emotional and spiritual qualitys to manage to continue on in such a thing.

[kimball13]

http://docs.google.com/viewer?pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShomzHo-83MAELH6_LIOBEIfBgKAfHD-7yU6cRPt4oho77SjLlSk3AyI3mbZl4zTz9Se2iLxnR6vG_U79H G5CGItrcDRDkKLv_gFHsQ5iH9ZfqP2CL1QBevzywq_7L6gj4yr N93&q=cache%3AkzCP8n7zBKQJ%3Adocuments.theblackvault.c om%2Fdocuments%2Fmindcontrol%2FADA075694.pdf%20soc ial%20influencing%2C%201979%20black%20vault&docid=19fbe1c82e1bbaa79dbff93950896248&a=bi&pagenumber=5&w=800

[kimball13]

http://docs.google.com/viewer?a=v&q=cache:kzCP8n7zBKQJ:documents.theblackvault.com/documents/mindcontrol/ADA075694.pdf+social+influencing,+1979+black+vault&hl=en&gl=us&pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShomzHo-83MAELH6_LIOBEIfBgKAfHD-7yU6cRPt4oho77SjLlSk3AyI3mbZl4zTz9Se2iLxnR6vG_U79H G5CGItrcDRDkKLv_gFHsQ5iH9ZfqP2CL1QBevzywq_7L6gj4yr N93&sig=AHIEtbRJuXp2ciwEZdlU45_0q8ypBbu0Rg

[kimball13]

ya, now you know why i was kinda memrorie incapacitated, i was wrongly accused and one of the programers slipped in as they put me where he shouldve been in that fucking chair.

i will put the movie depction of the chair i was put in around 15 years ago.


http://docs.google.com/viewer?pid=bl&srcid=ADGEEShomzHo-83MAELH6_LIOBEIfBgKAfHD-7yU6cRPt4oho77SjLlSk3AyI3mbZl4zTz9Se2iLxnR6vG_U79H G5CGItrcDRDkKLv_gFHsQ5iH9ZfqP2CL1QBevzywq_7L6gj4yr N93&q=cache%3AkzCP8n7zBKQJ%3Adocuments.theblackvault.c om%2Fdocuments%2Fmindcontrol%2FADA075694.pdf%20soc ial%20influencing%2C%201979%20black%20vault&docid=19fbe1c82e1bbaa79dbff93950896248&a=bi&pagenumber=25&w=800

[kimball13]

hi kimball ill have another look at your king arthur coverup thread because it looked interesting, if massively long the last time i looked. perhaps a new post with a summary of the info in it would help other people be able to understand your problems and try to help. hope you find some peace mate

thats why it pissed me off so much being my attempt to go to college twice and both times a car accident when there i stayed on top of there clerical errors,,,,,,,,they knew why i wanted to take english class.

but after that lightning i knew i had to start, i think i mention that ordeal in the thread, i felt i should throw some real time stuff in while it was fresh including the drunk thinking he was gettting away with something, crazy sneaky huh:D

[kimball13]

maybe someone will help condense or add to or whatever someday, thing is i would have to have time to read it, and well i think the person would have to be well versed to assist and perform this task.

due to well im not counting on all of my memories coming back, and well i dont know if i ever did recieve a real edjucation.

spent time at the museum, palace of fine arts, the park, woods, ocean, but not much at school.

sorry bout that realy i am, that is why i have a bit of frustration in my writting.

but who knows maybe the stupid way it looks in a sense to some has allowed it to go unoticed or seen as a small nusance that none wound notice.

ah but then ingnorance and stupididty are differnt.

[kimball13]

what stuff ? paranoid schizophrenia ?

I'd recommend a good psychiatrist. Who would you suggest ?

your are realy a simple minded individual.
and well to bad, that and well dont you know that tnat mental health shit nearly killed me.

fucking idiot, i mean realy,,,,,,,,now if you want to grow up and act as an adult with a mind that can reason the cool but if not please just crawl in a hole and let me do my little ditty here dude.

oh dam reverted to my 80's chill mode,,,,,,,,well at least its not a split personality.

nor a sociopathic tendacy.
or an apathetic, ingnorant, contempt prior to investigation revictimize the victim that tried to save your fucking life asshole.


ok now that i gave you some blanks(as in harmelless amo) why not do some research, or are you one of those that has fabricated a false story.

[kimball13]

No such thing.

i could not put it more simpley:Dnor agree more:cool:

[kimball13]

lol :D

I think they share an apartment with my ex-husband :p

simply put many mental health agency have people in them kidna doing a cheap funded sex ring and asset management or those made pliable through medications.

how do i know,,,,,,,,its my job to know.

refer to the documents, and ask yourself would they train someone at a young age to find out what the major issue is going on around the old mkultra crap and where its coming from.

breeding and prostitition,,,,,,,strange the local brothel tha burned down a couple of years ago was right next door to the agency that helps young mothers and such that are single or whatever,,,,,,,kinda one stop shopping:mad::eek:

or that is what it looks like.

[kimball13]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=7020



and you know it gets even weirder,,,,,,,,,who knows where i might be from:eek:


pay attention and you might see one of em a bit out of place in desert storm era camo's.


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=48&pictureid=1940

and what is on the belt on his right side, and what type of plane is that.

oh and his first name is the same as mine, as well as the guy his smilling at is his great uncle:eek:

[kimball13]

1942

[kimball13]

flight 911

[kimball13]

im the one that survived an underground attack, as in dulce wars kinda stuff.

i was also the one that went in to pull me out:eek:

imagine how confusing it is at times.

hence maybe why that thing in my head, is it a trackig device or something to keep me from divulging things prematurly.

ah crap,,,,,,,,,,,2 esdras,,,,,,,,,of course,,,,,,,,,when man can call back a day from the past as if it was today he willknow the will of God.

anyways it goes along with the othe posts and threads.

[kimball13]

yet the time travel stuff may be a false memorei.

still dont know about that one part.

[verndewd]

first 3 pages of responders need some lessons in abstract thought.

The guy was a guinea pig and expendable resource on the shadow side of government is what he claims.That xray shows a rectangular shape that does appear as if it could be electrical.

judging by the guys ability to speak , it reminds me of a guy that had a knife stuck in his head as a child and was left in the dumpster, couldnt type for shit but was a binary hacker to be extremely cautious of.

[kimball13]

first 3 pages of responders need some lessons in abstract thought.

The guy was a guinea pig and expendable resource on the shadow side of government is what he claims.That xray shows a rectangular shape that does appear as if it could be electrical.

judging by the guys ability to speak , it reminds me of a guy that had a knife stuck in his head as a child and was left in the dumpster, couldnt type for shit but was a binary hacker to be extremely cautious of.

actualy due the the aterial abnormalitys, and stomach medication and to deal wht this stress for the time being causes a bit of loss in well, just say a bit buzzed,,,,,,,,after all it is prescribed and ive proved that there ways do not work for anyone, and this does.

that rectangle has a coil under it, it also looks a bit like circutry.

oh and depending on how active i am and how much i eat effects my speach, but then how do you know how i speak,,,,,,,,,my typing and such is due to lack of formal edjucation,,,,,,,,,,im self taught,,,,,,,not even homeshcooled.

so ya, guese i do kinda fit in the binary hacker catagorie in a War kinda way.
something ive had a hard time accepting.
i dont like seeing something destroyed that will never exist again.

[kimball13]

my only injurie was bieing born.
:(

i looked at those exrays again, and every rib is broken, how is that, and i also niticed a kinda faint glow around the breaks:confused:

i havent looked at them again since, after all how could they its like they just said oh well he doesnt know his rib cage is busted up but wow look at that faint glow holding the bones in place,,,,,,,,,let see what happnes kinda crap.

weird huh.

[verndewd]

heres a method for you; write a date , the earliest date you can remember

1967 for example
Add some memories
1977 add another date
add some more memories

and so on. You dont have to get in depth or strain yourself but that will help people understand what you are going through.

You said you were born with birth defects having a sphincter exiting your side and you seem to allude to being in some form of government war crap so thats a hard thing for any one to believe since the military is really picky.

But you also said you have dreams and more use of your brain than most. I will say that most people will likely think that you are suffering from hallucinations you percieve to be real, the downside to that assertion is that there is a certain amount of patterning to the story that is hard to disbelieve since its relevant in the black annals of the elite frankenstein matrix.

Also having alledgedly taught yourself to read and write is no small feat and unintelligent people simply cannot do that.

So try to structure the story in a successive line from beginning to end as most educated people are taught to understand things in that way.

[kimball13]

http://www.jneurosci.org/content/vol28/issue46/images/large/zns0470856060002.jpeg

Figure 2. A, Schematic of signal flow in R-BCI (Mavoori et al., 2005). B, Neurochip circuit board, electrode connector, and battery in circular chamber implanted on monkey's head [Jackson et al., (2007), their Fig. 1A]. C, Continuous operation of a cortical recurrent BCI leads to long-lasting changes in physiological connections. Top, Intracranial microstimulation at three different motor cortex sites with the monkey at rest evoked three different muscle responses (center) and different isometric torques about the wrist (right). Arrows at right indicate means of 200 ms torque trajectories. Middle, Conditioning involved 2 d of triggering microstimuli at site Nstim for every spike recorded at Nrec during free behavior and sleep. Bottom, After conditioning, the output effects evoked from site Nrec had changed to include those from Nstim, an effect that lasted beyond a week [Jackson et al. (2006a), their Figs. 2, 5]. D, Illustration of a proposed fully implantable integrated microsystem (University of Michigan).



http://www.jneurosci.org/content/vol28/issue46/images/medium/zns0470856060001.gif

Figure 1. A, Photograph of a four-shank silicon neural probe having four electrode sites arranged near the tip, each terminated in a bond pad at the tab (NeuroNexus Technologies). B, High-magnification photographs illustrating four different types of sites layouts for specialized interfaces (NeuroNexus Technologies). C, Photograph of a modular 128-site, three-dimensional array made from several multishank planar arrays (NeuroNexus Technologies). D, Open architecture probe designs to improve tissue integration [Seymour and Kipke (2007), their Fig. 1A]. E, High-density recording of unit activity in rat neocortex. The placement of an eight-shank silicon device in layer V is overlaid on recordings color coded for different electrodes. Note the presence of spikes on several sites of the same shank and lack of the same spikes across the different shanks, indicating that electrodes placed 200 µm laterally record from different cell populations. Spikes and local field potentials are both visible in this wide-band (1 Hz to 10 kHz) recording (Fujisawa et al., 2008). Modified from Buzsáki (2004), his Figure 2A, reprinted with permission. F, Demonstration of functional connectivity in the cortex of behaving animals. A small network of pyramidal cells (red triangles) and putative inhibitory interneurons (blue circles) in layer V of the prefrontal cortex of the rat are mapped. Rectangles are unidentified units. Note a large "hub" formed by an interneuron and its multiple partners [Fujisawa et al. (2008), their supplemental Fig. 11].

[kimball13]

heres a method for you; write a date , the earliest date you can remember

1967 for example
Add some memories
1977 add another date
add some more memories

and so on. You dont have to get in depth or strain yourself but that will help people understand what you are going through.

You said you were born with birth defects having a sphincter exiting your side and you seem to allude to being in some form of government war crap so thats a hard thing for any one to believe since the military is really picky.

But you also said you have dreams and more use of your brain than most. I will say that most people will likely think that you are suffering from hallucinations you percieve to be real, the downside to that assertion is that there is a certain amount of patterning to the story that is hard to disbelieve since its relevant in the black annals of the elite frankenstein matrix.

Also having alledgedly taught yourself to read and write is no small feat and unintelligent people simply cannot do that.

So try to structure the story in a successive line from beginning to end as most educated people are taught to understand things in that way.


no but hole, is all, the rest actualy makes me a bit more suvivable and stronger.

and well im not doing this to just tell a story or write a book im doing this to get back what is mine.

the rest can come later, as well as im sure others out there in the know will come forward and help me in this to heal and fill in the holes.

[kimball13]

made a plan of action a while back;)

and well kinda took a big chance.

[kimball13]

a definatly serouse pun.

Art, as in Arcturus!

[the perfect one]

first 3 pages of responders need some lessons in abstract thought.

The guy was a guinea pig and expendable resource on the shadow side of government is what he claims.That xray shows a rectangular shape that does appear as if it could be electrical.

judging by the guys ability to speak , it reminds me of a guy that had a knife stuck in his head as a child and was left in the dumpster, couldnt type for shit but was a binary hacker to be extremely cautious of.

Yes, and I think anyone with prior knowledge of the shadow gov. can see this man is an mkultra experiment.

[kimball13]

one that was sorely missused for very political reasons.

and well does anyone thing that they will admit to it especialy if i am a hereditary king and chief, ya i suppose it would be a bit of a political mess.

but then they wanted me to comit suicide.


and oh Coast To coast am, well ive supspected for a while, nothing but opurtunists, and well they suck and lie.

coastocoast is heartless, realy.

as well as most of em, gues i will see in a few days.


or is it simply that im the only real one they have ever came across,,,,,,,,,,oh and what would that meen, oh coulc it meen that the king arthur stuff is true.

sorry but im kinda upset, and kinda want to do a War Crie.

But im used to be revictimized and then victimized by other victims,,,,,,,,,,,it gets even worse when they find out ive helped them to comeo out of it.

its a guilt thing for some,,,,,,,,,,,,,,after all they helped the guy that fucked some of them up and harmed me.

i suppose teh ythought,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ah fuck i dont know what they thought,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ive never been cruel or have a problem with imagage or doing the right thing,,,,,,,,,even if i dont like anyone on the good side i always side with good.

So to some victims of mk-ultra out there go fuck yoursevles,,,,,,,every one of you tht ive asked for help has slanderd me at most,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,why is that:eek:oh maybe because they have gotten there story and such from me and others like me and they realy are the perps.
They get that look bullies do when the nerd or whatever grows up,,,,,,,,,and they find out the little fucker is like jason bourne and bruce lee kinda thing.
ohwell.

maybe i should put a picture up so no one confuses someone else as me again.

speculate all yo uwant.


later im going to put up the story in a simple format.


A comic book explaining kinda what has happend.

[kimball13]

fuck i should wait until i have my coffee before i try to write.

not as dizzie as yesterday, so someone that has acces to this thingy must have helped, or i did it on my own, maybe God did it.

dont know yet, andwell i dont want to take all the credit, but hay maybe i should.

after all

Duncan Offinian, thanks allot asshole.

same to you Jim Channon and Dan Burisch.

ya threee guys, arrogant and egotistical, you can hear it in there voices as well as well kinda evil.

but people believed them, did any one of them show any proof,,,,,,,,,,,,,any at all such as i have in this thread.

im not in a pissing contest, im just being honest and truthfull.

i believe the perps hide as a vic, as well as mke money playing victim.

oh they tried to say that about me, dam they tried every angle.

so id better calm down, or might blow a fuse.

But you know what fuck it i dont give a shit if i remember or not.
why well seems some are relieing on it thinking it wll solve a problem,,,,,,,,,,,,,no fuck you fuck of hell know ,,,,,,,,,,,,you motherfuckers havnt helped me one fucking iota out of fear and gread,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so fuck you assholse around here,,,,,,,,,take you condesending opurtunistic only do the right thing if i stick a grenade up your assses go fuck yourselves


how can i help evil, greedy selfish hurtfull arrogant assholes.

no im not going to be patient for those out there in the know, go fuck off.

ya im a bit pissed,,,,,,,,,,,,and realy the words are harsher than my tude,,,,,,,,im just trying to make it clear the War Path im on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they fucked with teh wrong g, as in what they or them like to call and controle us,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,wargod:eek:now tell me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,in all this mkultra bloodline program crap would you fuck with the wargod, funny that video game out now.


alright im done ranting for now.

[the perfect one]

[QUOTE=kimball13;1058846053]

Duncan Offinian, thanks allot asshole.

same to you Jim Channon and Dan Burisch.

ya threee guys, arrogant and egotistical, you can hear it in there voices as well as well kinda evil.

but people believed them, did any one of them show any proof,,,,,,,,,,,,,any at all such as i have in this thread.

im not in a pissing contest, im just being honest and truthfull.

i believe the perps hide as a vic, as well as mke money playing victim.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------from the perfect one-
Hi Kimball, yeah I tell ya what. I've been on the net long enough to spot bad guys . When you have a person come on with as much info as I had and start emailing all these so called "whistle blowers /patriot sites". But the sites that are supposed to be there for you ,are not. They parrot the same as the bad guys did to me all last summer. I've been all over the net telling parts of my story to different sites. I never told them everything because you have to test them first. People would be amazed if they ever really knew. There are so many sites that are fronts .

I couldnt agree with you more on the paragraph I quoted from you.

Take a little comfort in knowing that someday ,maybe even soon,everyone will see the truth. Who they gonna cry to then? There wont be nothing from me -the naysayers and trolls and fakes will get nothing in the form of sympathy from me. I told them so, and they will just have to figure it out for themselves. Nothing says I'm awake more then having first hand experience.

Let's see them deal with that.I can't wait- LOL -Their fools.
Dont worry though , there are many true patriots just watching,the ones who never ever comment on the net. They are the ones that will matter in the end. It's not gonna be these armchair internet warriors /pretenders. It's gonna be the smart ones that will aid the good people.

Perhaps that's why so many dis info people on the net already anyway. The possession has taken place. So stay strong and someday you will be vindicated.

[kimball13]

now that i got my tude at a dull roar.

the simplified version.

and thank you marvel for my story.

http://images2e.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53833%3Enu%3D3382%3E39%3A%3E987%3EWS NRCG%3D32%3A%3B63%3A6%3B%3B347nu0mrj

http://images2e.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53832%3Enu%3D3382%3E39%3A%3E987%3EWS NRCG%3D32%3A%3B687994347nu0mrj


and what happend for saving lives.


http://images2e.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53839%3Enu%3D3382%3E39%3A%3E987%3EWS NRCG%3D32%3A%3B6263%3B2347nu0mrj

http://images2e.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53842%3Enu%3D3382%3E39%3A%3E987%3EWS NRCG%3D32%3A%3B64%3B67%3B347nu0mrj


http://images2e.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53839%3Enu%3D3382%3E39%3A%3E987%3EWS NRCG%3D32%3A%3B6647%3C%3B347nu0mrj

http://images2e.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53842%3Enu%3D3382%3E39%3A%3E987%3EWS NRCG%3D32%3A%3B696956347nu0mrj



http://images2e.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp537%3B%3A%3Enu%3D32%3A%3B%3E668%3E2% 3B%3B%3E239%3C6683%3A%3C256ot1lsi

http://images2e.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53838%3Enu%3D3382%3E39%3A%3E987%3EWS NRCG%3D32%3A%3B73%3C5%3A7347nu0mrj



now the real question is simple,,,,,,,,,,,based on this young mans charecter and morals, values and code of honor and conduct,,,,,,,,,,would you prefer he has contole of his abilitys or some unknown pushing buttons.

you see i have to get angry and dispell the energy when they start triggering a responce.

instead they try to control it.

ok, i have to stop im getting pissed, and well the thing is what there doing is making it to where i can access it a bit more on a larger scale,,,,,,,,,,,so in a sense what they ared oing is realy going to hurt them in the ong run.

scarry but true,,,,,,,,,,hence why the inhibitors,,,,,,,,,,they cannot controle me like a gun, im a human being and i will not use my gifts for there evil crap and they konw it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so they tried to find a way to use me,,,,,,,,,,or to aim me and then pull my trigger:mad:



now im older and wellmy abilitys evovolve or i just hit levels of maturity.

like the new suite

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=3672

[kimball13]

someone asked me to write it out a bit more in a linear fashion and clearer.

welll most of it has been written, even with fillers the truth is still there.

and yes i am like Grant, not only in looks but also my charetor.
see how the treat something to good for them,,,,,,,,,oh i mean too good to believe.

ya im done being nice:eek:
but then i will be nice to my kind that side on the side of God and give me a hand,,,,,,,,,,i dont like putting it that way but for simplicity's puroposes and well i dont like playing politics.

sorry about the scatterd way im writting, i have allot on my mind to sort out,,,,,,,and i have a hard time decideing what to write first.
so i just let it flow to hte best of my ability.

may God's love peirce you hearts and open them up, for those of hardend hearts well nothing i can do for you anymore, sorry but you had you chance and ample warning.:eek:

[kimball13]

[QUOTE=kimball13;1058846053]

Duncan Offinian, thanks allot asshole.

same to you Jim Channon and Dan Burisch.

ya threee guys, arrogant and egotistical, you can hear it in there voices as well as well kinda evil.

but people believed them, did any one of them show any proof,,,,,,,,,,,,,any at all such as i have in this thread.

im not in a pissing contest, im just being honest and truthfull.

i believe the perps hide as a vic, as well as mke money playing victim.
--------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------------from the perfect one-
Hi Kimball, yeah I tell ya what. I've been on the net long enough to spot bad guys . When you have a person come on with as much info as I had and start emailing all these so called "whistle blowers /patriot sites". But the sites that are supposed to be there for you ,are not. They parrot the same as the bad guys did to me all last summer. I've been all over the net telling parts of my story to different sites. I never told them everything because you have to test them first. People would be amazed if they ever really knew. There are so many sites that are fronts .

I couldnt agree with you more on the paragraph I quoted from you.

Take a little comfort in knowing that someday ,maybe even soon,everyone will see the truth. Who they gonna cry to then? There wont be nothing from me -the naysayers and trolls and fakes will get nothing in the form of sympathy from me. I told them so, and they will just have to figure it out for themselves. Nothing says I'm awake more then having first hand experience.

Let's see them deal with that.I can't wait- LOL -Their fools.
Dont worry though , there are many true patriots just watching,the ones who never ever comment on the net. They are the ones that will matter in the end. It's not gonna be these armchair internet warriors /pretenders. It's gonna be the smart ones that will aid the good people.

Perhaps that's why so many dis info people on the net already anyway. The possession has taken place. So stay strong and someday you will be vindicated.

thank you very much, you and your thread have been a big help,,,,,,,,and it has opend me up a bit,,,,,,,,,,,,and got me going on it again,,,,,,,thank you very much,


oh and i like the avatar,,,,,,,,always figured thats my type of woman:Dsorry but had to lighten it up a bit and well,,,,,,,,,,after all ive wondered what kinda woman could ever be romanticly involved with me.

sorry to go off track, but hay im a guy and well im sure youve noticed how ive had my attention on more than romance and dating,,,,,,,and well imagine on a date and saying ohya babe by the way before we go on i should tell you something,,,,,,,,,,,,,,weird things happen around me, so if you notice them tell me and know your safe,,,,,dont give into there storys of offers,,,,,,,,then i leave it at that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i started a two year engagement that way,,,,,,,well i gues all she thought was how good looking i am or whatever and when it started to happend and the gove ops started followoing her she took a payoff from them.

ya she chose money and such over what she knew to be true.

alright im done,,,,,just thought i should add that to this,,,,,,,,,,imagine only being used as a seed factory,,,,,,,,,,gues i got a genetic code they want to reproduce,,,,,,,,crazy fools one of me is enough,,,,,,,,,,and after 39 years im only getting stronger and harder to control;)

[kimball13]

how deep is this rabbit hole, well i aint a fucking rabbit.
so logic dictates that if i have to grab my keys out of that fuking hole then im getting a shovel, a backhoe, some dynomite:eek: they are my keys not the fucking rabbits,


anyways just trying to sound nebulous here:rolleyes:


on the lower left side a chip. oh its on the right actualy, i scanned it backwards.
oh and it dispoves duncans claims that a chip cant go through an mri.

ya its true.
im living proof, maybe one of te few that has come forward, had to wait until most victims were kinda set free enough. and in a place to make up there own minds about things, hard to explain, but my job since 76 has been to shut it down.

yet to do it i suppose they had to do this to me also, im very heart broken, the reason is those ive helped then were manipulated into bleiving i am one of the ones that brainwashed and such to people,,,,,,,,,,,as they sided with the old controlers and ones that started that crap enslavement shit.


http://images2e.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53842%3Enu%3D3382%3E39%3A%3E987%3EWS NRCG%3D32%3A%3B6%3B%3A3%3A%3A347nu0mrj


my apologies to those that the emotions of my words effect, it is not you im angry with, im not to angry anymore, but pissed o fuck ya, and determined to see my enemy's permantly gone as well as there ways.

The fcking vatican has tried to kill and control my family for 2000 years, we always move on, well no where else to move to, no cheek left to turn,,,,,,,,,,,they have pushed a merovingian, pendragon, native american in a corner,,,,,,,,,,,,so realy they have made my gifts grow because God has blessed me abundantly to handle these fools that have chosen to follow Satan,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so Joel's army mount up and ride as with the wings of eagles never tireing,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh why did i say that, its God's army, here is why.


http://www.letusreason.org/Latrain10.htm
Joel's Army

Remember the song that went, "Oh when the saints, come marchin' in, oh when the saints come marchin in, Lord I want to be in that number when the Saints come marchin' in." This is not the tune you'll find Joel's army sings because they are not looking to be brought up to Jesus but waiting for Christ (the anointing) to be brought down upon them to march through the land.


oh i never met tod by the way, had nothing to do with this, ohwell lets see what happens.


http://www.rightwingwatch.org/content/joels-army-and-call
Joel's Army and The Call
Submitted by Kyle on August 28, 2008 - 9:22am
We wrote about The Call a few times before the rally on the National Mall earlier this month, but the Southern Poverty Law Center has released a fascinating new report entitled "Arming" for Armageddon that puts its activities in an entirely new light.

It turns out that The Call and its founder Lou Engle are closely aligned with a militant Christian dominionist movement called "Joel's Army" run by self-proclaimed prophet and faith-healer Todd Bentley:



take a look at the name Kimball and the role weve played in religion's and how even Joseph Smith was assasinated by Brigham Young.
Smith's mother was a kimball.

See how much they have tried to duplicate me and what God has gifted me.

and the enormity of this conspiracy.

notice my join date on forum and his Aug 28 2008.



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LAKELAND, Fla. -- Todd Bentley has a long night ahead of him, resurrecting the dead, healing the blind, and exploding cancerous tumors. Since April 3, the 32-year-old, heavily tattooed, body-pierced, shaved-head Canadian preacher has been leading a continuous "supernatural healing revival" in central Florida. To contain the 10,000-plus crowds flocking from around the globe, Bentley has rented baseball stadiums, arenas and airport hangars at a cost of up to $15,000 a day. Many in attendance are church pastors themselves who believe Bentley to be a prophet and don't bat an eye when he tells them he's seen King David and spoken with the Apostle Paul in heaven. "He was looking very Jewish," Bentley notes.



So how important have they made me while keeping me messed with and such, and still even with there torturouse stuff i still can do better than them, so what if i was allowed to actualy mature without constant attacks, or at least heal,,,,,,,,,,,,,those evil motherfuckers, ya they are true evil.

[kimball13]

i can say this is what to expect assholes if you dont let me heal and such in the way ive asked as well as meating with a few leaders in this gov, inclueding the Pres to resolve certain issues, hard to explain it all.


but here is what some have done over the last 8 or so years, i had no hand in it nor commented until now.

but considering all of this going on, i need to say not my guys, but i think they might have tried to portray themselves as mine,,,,,,,,,,,,so this is the gravity of this situation.

im fucking seriouse.

now imediatly, no telling what might happen, especialy if this is what some are doing,.

and considering my Name is Joel.
well to fucking coincedental and a nother frame job, or was it why i was fucked with they thought i was running it adn were trying to figure out how i ws doing it.




Tattooed across his sternum are military dog tags that read "Joel's Army." They're evidence of Bentley's generalship in a rapidly growing apocalyptic movement that's gone largely unnoticed by watchdogs of the theocratic right. According to Bentley and a handful of other "hyper-charismatic" preachers advancing the same agenda, Joel's Army is prophesied to become an Armageddon-ready military force of young people with a divine mandate to physically impose Christian "dominion" on non-believers.



"An end-time army has one common purpose -- to aggressively take ground for the kingdom of God under the authority of Jesus Christ, the Dread Champion," Bentley declares on the website for his ministry school in British Columbia, Canada. "The trumpet is sounding, calling on-fire, revolutionary believers to enlist in Joel's Army. ... Many are now ready to be mobilized to establish and advance God's kingdom on earth."

but then hopefully the followers are good people and realize they just got rounded up by the wrong leaders, simple to solve, after all think about it.

[kimball13]

the eye's and smile.
as well as when i read his book it was like reading about myself, or the good parts, dont know.
anyways the similarity's are uncanny.

maybe think of this guy multiplied by a few factors.

hence why theythought i would be easeir to deal with, and im handicapped:rolleyes:




how close he and i are/where is still a mysterie to me,,,,,,,,,,,but i will say both his group and red cell, well i think it was redcell i started in, not sure.

But i do remember beruite enough to be sure of my place.

Red Teams or Red Cells are U.S. government parlance for teams or units designed to test the effectiveness of U.S. tactics or personnel. "Red Cell" was purported to be a U.S. Navy SEAL team (comprised primarily of members of SEAL Team Six) which had been organized to attempt to infiltrate and otherwise test the security of U.S. military bases and other installations sensitive to U.S. security interests. The original Red Cell group was led by the former commander of Seal Team Six (DevGru) Richard Marcinko.
"Red Team" was also a term for the opposing force OpFor in a war game by western nations during the Cold War, a reference to the predominantly red flags of Communist nations (i.e. the USSR and China) with the western nation(s) being the Blue Team. The USSR used the same colors in reversed meaning -- they were the Red Team and the OpFor was the Blue Team.

Marcinko and Channon are two men still alive, both involved to some degree either dirrectly or inderectly, or at very least have an idea.

Channon was part of the Delta Program, project means it ends a program is the continuation of one.


Beckwith was part of the b-52 project, later to be called delta project, channon was part of the delta program:eek:

Marcinko spent time in Japan during his red cell stuff, Japan did a form of MK-Ultra type programs, a unit 216 or something like that.


So the dots fell into place in all of this.

especialy when i sat down and read war books which i never did before.


Oh jim Channon was depicted in that movie men who stare at goats, he was played by jeff bridges.


Channon also consulted with the fortune 100 company's on social engenearing:eek:.

so in my opinion i should be sitting in the pentagon or other such instalation doing what i do so well.

im a fucking kick ass interigator, heck dont even have to torture them.

how do you think i got this far, i got people to tell on themselves infront of large groups.

kept telling them shit i created that technique, you fools, your going after the wrong one,,,,and if im so fucking important then i would be in a VA hospital or a base unless someone high up or someones keep hiding traces of me.


And ya i talked to Channon, he laughed when i opend up and said hay what you know about implants.

then my life even got worse, nearly died a few times.

So Jim looks like that kid you like staring at is going to stare back,,,,,,,,,,,,,,get it men who stare at goats(kids).

Cool ac/dc; big gun just came on the radio.


hehehehehhehehehehhehehehehehhheheehhhehhehehh

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh

silence.

i had big balls at a young age, funny i remember that day, i thought ok we going to have problems, or what.


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=48&pictureid=3372


by the way Kimball meens, Bright Shinning Hound of God, so fitting this picture hehe.

funny just like the prophecy, my hair got darker and my skin, its a native american prophecy of a child with white hair.

[kimball13]

even then, look at my right hand, ready to throw down!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

[kimball13]

also it is the kinda hold one might have with a bow.

anyways, i dont like throwing what may be considerd accusations, but hay i dont have all the info, and well if there worth there salt and metal the they understand, as well as the hot water some high ups might be in for this, i do remeber looking out the window of the evac chopper, and seeing a group of guys laughing as if they are getting away with the crime of the cetury, i thought is was gratitude for being alive, but i also rember laying my head back down and thinking no its because there going into the next phase of a plan.



here is a blown up version of that implant, but look at my rib cage,.

the wreck didnt do that much damage if i remember correctly, or am i that tough and resiliant, i also notices a kinda glow, a kinda sheeth where the breaks are, almost as if i phase out where the breaks are and phase back in,,,,,dont know who knows,,,,,,,,,,,,but it explains why the local interest and why they are trying to keep me hiden in plane sight for several reasons.


im not an x-ray tech nor doctor but i can see definate breaks and chips, so why didnt they treat me, or why wasnt in in intense pain.

meta-human like the comics???????????????????????????????????????????

im a bit freaked out.

http://images2e.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp537%3C2%3Enu%3D3382%3E39%3A%3E987%3E WSNRCG%3D32%3A%3B7%3A%3C9%3C4347nu0mrj


now i know why it hurt like hell to do push ups.


http://images2e.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp53834%3Enu%3D3382%3E39%3A%3E987%3EWS NRCG%3D32%3A%3B7%3A4957347nu0mrj


one other interesting thing is after these were taken i did not see them, this as well as i had to defend myself without harming the other person.

a per order by police that i cannot harm anyone even if attacked, if i hurt them i go to prison.

then after they finaly noticed the attacks were ochastrated they said i could protect myself, thing is i know better, i also know that for some reason i am not afforded the same protections in this town as a citizen has a right to.

my court records and everything here have been repeadadly lost or whatever, i have paid for misdomeanors over and over again, even my student loans and deferment requests of which were aproved.
yet after they get aproved i then recieve a bill in the mail, its as if the computer just resets back to before the deferment,,,,,,,,,,,,so it must be Channon or Marcinko in my opinion, or is it the gov, nah i think its wall st to tell you the truth, corporations, not all but a few.

ohwell, they want to bring about a holy war, well seems like so,,,,,,,,,,jihad, well the last time was around Rama times.

and dont get it twisted.
im no terrorist.
not even muslim, but i do know what a holy war is and the rules of conduct just as my heart beats and breath fills my lungs, as well as rules of engagment in such things.
ya think a killer can do what i do, na it takes a protector to defend and attack in a just and ritcheose way, and not of my own understanding, i pay attention and listen,,, then i allow God to show me from his point of veiw and then i get a kinda:eek:lookfealing,and well its hard to retain even a fraction of that sight.


oh and i dont have a violent criminal record.
oh a simple battery, which means i didnt want to be manhandled so i moved out of the way, not my fault he plowed into 3 other bouncers, heck would you stand there and let someone go for a hurtfull hold with 10 others standing there,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya like fucking jason bourne, dont know why but it happens sometimes, it usualy out of instinct,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,alright i feal sick again, but then i also feal like doing a few Kata's oh i have my own style as it seems.

might explain why i took to Aikido and Hung gar so quike, oh hungar is five animal style, traditional shoulin.
hungar is a very hard style in some forms of it, as it is a five animal style, if youve seen moi ti, kickboxing, ya the guys that slam there shins, well hungar is similar yet put that with similar to Jet Li or Bruce Lee and you have Hung Gar,,,, for instance bruce started in hung gar and felt it to hard, so he went soft to wing chung, wata wimp(just kidding).


Check out HUng chung tau or something like that,,,,,,,,its one of the things they taught special forces,,,,,,,,,i think its called Hung Tau, anyways, seems by looking at my mri's something is going on for me.

So after carefull considerations and research, after seeing on the internet all of the older generation talking out of school i felt that there is something realy wrong with this picture and my little suspicions were more than that.

So, i dont like saying all of this because i dont think of myself as all that, but i have to accept i have some abilitys that i repress, not of my choosing nor fault.

i will leave it at that for now.

[the perfect one]

the eye's and smile.
as well as when i read his book it was like reading about myself, or the good parts, dont know.
anyways the similarity's are uncanny.

maybe think of this guy multiplied by a few factors.

hence why theythought i would be easeir to deal with, and im handicapped:rolleyes:




how close he and i are/where is still a mysterie to me,,,,,,,,,,,but i will say both his group and red cell, well i think it was redcell i started in, not sure.

But i do remember beruite enough to be sure of my place.

Red Teams or Red Cells are U.S. government parlance for teams or units designed to test the effectiveness of U.S. tactics or personnel. "Red Cell" was purported to be a U.S. Navy SEAL team (comprised primarily of members of SEAL Team Six) which had been organized to attempt to infiltrate and otherwise test the security of U.S. military bases and other installations sensitive to U.S. security interests. The original Red Cell group was led by the former commander of Seal Team Six (DevGru) Richard Marcinko.
"Red Team" was also a term for the opposing force OpFor in a war game by western nations during the Cold War, a reference to the predominantly red flags of Communist nations (i.e. the USSR and China) with the western nation(s) being the Blue Team. The USSR used the same colors in reversed meaning -- they were the Red Team and the OpFor was the Blue Team.

Marcinko and Channon are two men still alive, both involved to some degree either dirrectly or inderectly, or at very least have an idea.

Channon was part of the Delta Program, project means it ends a program is the continuation of one.


Beckwith was part of the b-52 project, later to be called delta project, channon was part of the delta program:eek:

Marcinko spent time in Japan during his red cell stuff, Japan did a form of MK-Ultra type programs, a unit 216 or something like that.


So the dots fell into place in all of this.

especialy when i sat down and read war books which i never did before.


Oh jim Channon was depicted in that movie men who stare at goats, he was played by jeff bridges.


Channon also consulted with the fortune 100 company's on social engenearing:eek:.

so in my opinion i should be sitting in the pentagon or other such instalation doing what i do so well.

im a fucking kick ass interigator, heck dont even have to torture them.

how do you think i got this far, i got people to tell on themselves infront of large groups.

kept telling them shit i created that technique, you fools, your going after the wrong one,,,,and if im so fucking important then i would be in a VA hospital or a base unless someone high up or someones keep hiding traces of me.


And ya i talked to Channon, he laughed when i opend up and said hay what you know about implants.

then my life even got worse, nearly died a few times.

So Jim looks like that kid you like staring at is going to stare back,,,,,,,,,,,,,,get it men who stare at goats(kids).

Cool ac/dc; big gun just came on the radio.


hehehehehhehehehehhehehehehehhheheehhhehhehehh

hhhhhhhhhhhhhhhhooooooooooooooooooooaaaaaaaaaaaaaa aaaaaaaaaahhhhhhhhhhhh

silence.

i had big balls at a young age, funny i remember that day, i thought ok we going to have problems, or what.


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=48&pictureid=3372


by the way Kimball meens, Bright Shinning Hound of God, so fitting this picture hehe.

funny just like the prophecy, my hair got darker and my skin, its a native american prophecy of a child with white hair.

That is a super adorable pic. You little cutie. And yes it is fitting.My grandma had blonde hair when she was young then it turned dark. They called it "toe head " when she was a blonde baby.

[kimball13]

That is a super adorable pic. You little cutie. And yes it is fitting.My grandma had blonde hair when she was young then it turned dark. They called it "toe head " when she was a blonde baby.

it stayed blond until around 5-6, how old was your grandmother when it changed colors, .

[the perfect one]

it stayed blond until around 5-6, how old was your grandmother when it changed colors, .

same age!

Hey Kimball ,I was gonna save this song for when I came back on here with some new huge news,but your thread deserves this song. It's our song against the bad guys. BTW-you made my day when you said it was in part due to me ,that you came out with info. It's good info too....!!!! Cheers to us!


The bitch is back-Elton John - YouTube

[the perfect one]

Plus I gave your thread a 5 star rate. It deserves it. I can't believe how the whistle blowers get ignored. WE WON'T BE IGNORED FOREVER......I'll make sure of that. Time -that's all I need .

[kimball13]

Plus I gave your thread a 5 star rate. It deserves it. I can't believe how the whistle blowers get ignored. WE WON'T BE IGNORED FOREVER......I'll make sure of that. Time -that's all I need .

sometimes i wish i was a whistle blower.
more victim, and as i was told im a fail safe, or a possible solution, a one in a million chance.

hence the social influence immunity of sorts.

gues maybe a hereditary king/chief might not be as susceptible to it due to it being kinda bred into the bloodline to be the social influence and not influenced by it other than to correct harmfull aspects of how people can get when they think they can just run roughshod over everyone.


no not a whistle blower, i kinda went into this in a way knowing and it was to do just this.

even if only by instinct, even if my mind goes blank its kinda ingrained on autopilot.
weird, but hay im having a very strange thing going on.

fealing fealings i havent felt since childhood, its been going on for a while.

a bit awkward, but im glad to say the least, but my reflexes and mine are on the mend.

weird it happend when i saw those mri's films that realy triggerd it.

so up until i started this thread i was running on maybe half capacity.
ohwell.
and some are still making excuses, very bad excuses, its crazy they cant seem to tell the truth and if you talk to them for 10 minutes and pay attention you will probley hear at least one big lie or a couple little ones, its like they have to lie all the time.

well i do believe it has to do with the energy field needed to camouflage there aura in a weird kinda way.


this should go in another thread but i know those that read that one stop by this one also, so see what this meens to you and pay attention to this type of energy creation and retention they do, and well if of God then not lying wont harm them, but telling the truth without ill intent as in the laugh at telling a truth without you knowing it kinda gives them a lie to tell later, kinda energy shuffling in a sense, i dont know how to explain it, i just do it natrualy.


and well i gues i knew early on it would take making examples on a a large scale with inrefutable proof to back it.

and well starting with those coins of arthur all the way up to the implant, proof spanning close to 2000 years:D;):cool:

[kimball13]

same age!

Hey Kimball ,I was gonna save this song for when I came back on here with some new huge news,but your thread deserves this song. It's our song against the bad guys. BTW-you made my day when you said it was in part due to me ,that you came out with info. It's good info too....!!!! Cheers to us!


http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nujsrspF-k8

perfect song.

God's bright shining hound i am, i like bitches:D
funny when i hear that song i feel like kicking satans ass.


anyways the whistle blower i dont know if i could catagorize myself as that, my orders were before birth, then again by a person and then again around 91-93 again, all of them coincideing with the original orders:confused:

well the last set to the first were from founders.
high ups, includeing God, so sifting through what was programing and not programing i was left with finding that most of those around me were far more programed and conditioned than myself, then i downed on me what my memorie lose was from adn why i looked into the mirror while i was feeling the effects of a drug taking effect,,,,,,,,,so i started to create a kinda time stamp, then while placed in a littlecubby hole closet cuffed to a pip i noticed art work graffiti on the wall so i pulled a marker out of my pocket, comes in handy never know,,,,,,,,,,,,,and put the date 93 and my initials JMK so that there would be a trail,,,,,,,,,,kinda like that movie Paycheck with Ben Afleck kinda stuff.


ah fuck it, i didnt want to say it but hay why not its old technologie and well its in a movie anyways with Kilmer and Dorf.

its diguised as a barger chair, its realy a type of acupunture torture device of sorts, neadles all over hundreds.

Mustve freaked JS out when he visited me at that cottage later on around 2004 with me living right in that very room, redecorated of course, wall panels,,,,,,,,he comment to his woman that he could still feal the energy.

then out of the blue i went to the front room to that little closet with the seat and pipes,,,,,,,,,well there was that sticky tac paper on the wall so i pealed it to see what kinda wall was behind it and walla i saw the graffiti and well tht dream wasnt a dream anylonger.

then for years it was one step forward two steps back one step forward 121(fucking pun intened as in taskforce).

assholes.

like i told them if i work for any of them it would be working for a subordinate.
taking a pay cut or reduction of rank so to speak.

call it looking out for the old mans men, carring on the family tradition of ending war even if it means making war so hellishly quike when we are provoked no one will ever even think of harming there neighbor.


what that man did on 114th street and 88th road in newyork the other day laying his life down for another, then not only her running off but others not lifting a finger is what social influencing has caused and what they have done.
My only fault was being young, as in a child, then some being led to believe that attack theripie would bring me to a place of solving all there problems for them,,,,,,,,,i kept telling them they are wrong,,,,,,,,well i think ive proved my point.

and well for me to be me takes support not neglect.


Bekcwith, Marcinko, Channon and others were given the resorces as well as many others,,,,,,,,,,all ive asked for is what is mine by right.
little did i know that may meen what the queen of england calls hers:eek:

see the political turmoil if it was know what was done to the rightfull heir to the scottish and brittsh crowns just to name two of them.

just this last bit should explain why such the effort and money involved as well as why im still alive,,,,,,,,,,,,,must be some real old taboo of sorts.
and well over 33 trillion in assets is a large chunk of change:eek:mor land than anyone owns, imagine the influence they have used not there own.
Guess they dont want an indian deciding what to do with all that land:D


so to those that asked me where is the proof,,,,,,,well its on servers in England therefore ive laid my claim on British soil.
So i have beaten them at there own game with there own words, never claiming it myself nor asking price or reward,,,,,,,,crazy huh,,,,,,didnt think of it until after the fact, and to tell youthe truth the thought of that money and influence kinda made me say whats the point if its just about money.
then i thought ah crap if i dont at least fuck ther plans up they will have it all and well i can do more good with it,, and all they will do is human trafficking and crap.


im pretty sure allot of minds might be realing or have been since i first sent an email to Michael Lafosse saying hay you pretender wanna dance with the real heir.

so now what, well i suppose its a group effort, i know i have to ask for help, to tell the truth i thought the same thing if God has my back so much then he will just poof em all and all that will be left is the good ones,,,,,,,,,,,but thinking of it that is what is happening,,,,,and well if we didnt do it together then mankind will always want a tyrant to force them into being civil,,,,,,,,,which is not the way of Pendragon, Merovingian or Apache, non of these cultures operates as tyrants, more as shepards as chirst did:D

[kimball13]

best picture i could find on the net, this is the best qulity i could copy.
but wires come down with neadls to deliver elctrical shocks.
from the movie, Xlll the conspiracy, with Val Kilmer and Stephan Dorf, Kilmer also did a movie called conspiracy that gives a bit more of the story, real crazy huh.
http://images2e.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp537%3C7%3Enu%3D32%3A%3B%3E685%3E738% 3E239%3C685829256ot1lsi
when i watched the movie it was similar in some respects, but when i saw this scene i almost doubled over, i tried my best to hold my composure but my company noticed, and well he was part of the cover up so i was watching for his responce durring this movie:D;)ya i know im a kinda sneaky bastard.
but for me to be like this you have to have really fucked up in an intentional way, after all im a good hound loyal to God and well that must meen trained by God himself, might be why i see Jesus as a peer, or little brother, one that i protect no matter what at all costs every turn, i dont worship him, i ask for his voice only as a shoulder to cry on,,,,,,,,,,,and Jesus told his disiples this also,,,,,,,do not worship me, it is God you should worship, i am only the way,,,,,,,,,,there an angel or heavely son of man, as a man, born and hidden, that will defeat satan,,,,,,,,,,this is the fanatial side of things ive had to deal with,,,,,,,,the reason is simple,,,,,,,,,,the mark on my thigh,,,,,,,,other traits and such,,,,,,,,then when i heard the talking about the rider on the white horse being the anti-christ i was like no way your fucking crazy.

heck i even knew he wasnt christ but i did know he was a kinda general of God's army,,,,,,not joel's army,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if those fools said Jehoel's army that may be close to the truth,,,,because this one is the one that can look into the eye's of God, and no he is not satan nor lucifer nor the antichrist,,,,,,,,his title is Heavenly Son of Man, he is the one that destroys satan, he is also the one that leads the people into the temple to great the coming of Christ, then the Heavely Son of man who has a name written on his thy, and that name is King of King's Lord of Lords, and it is on the thy of the one Known as Faithfull and True the rider on the white horse.


The mark on the thigh is whom the riders alegance is with, and when he leads the people to the temple he then hands over the kingdom to Christ and coronates him, then well goes and helps govern, after all what would Christs war horse do after the war is won,,,,,,,,,,,,well simple raise his family and help to bring in the new age, when the old heaven and earth pass away being replaced by a new heaven and earth as one.


one thing to consider is we all have been fooled.

there are only Three that i know of that can never be fooled, and that is God, Mother, Christ, and it is those three that overide all includeing my own idea's,,,,,,,,,and if i am that one that some mistook as the anti-christ known as faithfull and true then that also means i am the one who writes the akashic records as well as leader of the heavely chior, chief or fire, leader of the destroyers of death and lie's,,,,,,,,,,,,see allot of pastors and such leave tht out of my description, im the destroyer of death and lie's the other is just a destroyer(abbabmom, or whatever that idiots name is), guess ambbomoms name isnt in that book and never will be.

and again the close definitions and missinterpitations and why so many have been fooled.

example,

Cybele and Bhaal.


hay heres one.

Noah was born with a brightness and they almost put him to death thinking he was nephlim, but the elders said he was of God,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe the blond hair then turning dark.

one theorie is i think God has a blending of angelic and human, or heaven and earth becomeing one.

You see that is what his plan was to begin with, and Jehoel was the first one,,,,,,then Adam and Eve, or Adam is Jehoel???????????

So satan tried to do it his self before God's time,,,,,,,,,see God's time not our own.

Those with satan jumped the gun, and wanted to create man in there image,,,,,,,,,and the reason was envy and jeolouse of Jehoel because he was the only one that could sit in the presence of God and Look into the eyes of God,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that is the differnce between Jehoel and Jesus, you see by default Jehoel already being part angel is obediant to God, as to where Jesus has all of the human instictual disires that can run rampant and it is for this and his adhearnce to the law,,,,,,,,that is also God's only Son, only one time has a male angel brought seed to a woman, i was a female angels offspring,,,,,,,,,,hard to explane but that is the best i can do.

dont know why its that way, just is.

and well figure i should give what i know,,,,,,,,even if only arhytyple or spiritual, who knows maybe all of the above.

But everything thats happend from my first vision quest camp before and after, all of it says the same thing, in nature, my records, my scars, that implant, the neglect, torture, humiliation, poverty, stomach wounds, brith marks, all of it points to the same thing no matter how much i want to denie it.
The cost it would take to cover it up is possible, even to try to program me and whatnot,,,,,,,,,but the extent and other factors show me it was to keep me from being me,,,,,,,,and well it seems the satanists have been attacking me my whole life,,,,,,,,nah to simple of an answer,,,,,,,,,,but being surrouned by my enemy,,,,,and purifieing a strange people,,,,,,,well merovingians and others are pretty strange,,,,,,,,,and allot of them were fooled into believing they are luciferian or satan bloodline.

The Daggoberts revenge stuff and all,,,,,,Devere and his king of witches starfire cerimony's(realy voodoo love slave potion)crap satanic bloodline 13 family's.

after i e-mailed him about his Cymbeline part of it refering to us dirrectly as Pendragon and while he was claiming being Pendragon.
well after i e-mailed him notifieing him that i am dirrect Pendragon line and did not apreciate being assciated with being a satanist and was highly offended,,,,,,,,well at least he took it down,,,,,,,,and afterwards began to fold up.

and Tracy Twyman is just an oppurtunist, or she would have contacted me if she was all about tracing it all,,,,,,,,after all both merovingian and pendragon in one person and when did we last have a kindom on either the islands or mainland 1,300 years ago,,,,,,,,,,,,,notice my spine,,,,,,the boy,,,,,,Daggoberts son, well gues its a bit hereditary, but well it does come in handy. OH Daggoberts son was a cripple. And they didnot know if we survived.

So ya, Long Haired Kings, thing is i can go without hair to, but hay why not let it grow again.
and by the way any hair stolen or taken without my knowledge being used for ill will or malice intent against me and mine will come imediatly back on the person using it.

Ya had issues of hair,,,,,,,,and as i found refernce to my ansestors handing a hair to some as blessings as well as warriors.
So you are warned and were warned, and now is that time.
And well i put it in God's hands and Wisdom.

Sorry to sound so crazy but its the truth, and this maybe the time for it to come out, and if i am who i am then it is my desicion and choice and im the only one that can make it without any recourse or actions against me for this disclosure.


maybe i will start going by Kalki,,,,,,,,,dont mix it up with Kali, i have an extra K.


Alright maybe i will accetp it soon i dont know, i dont know if its my accptance that makes a differnce or not,,,,,,,but ive fucking looked at this for over 7 years trying to find evidence to disprove it to myself,,,,,,,,,,,,,after all better be sure,,,,,,,,,,talk about a razors edge,,,,,,,,,


crazy 7 years thats a bit spiritual for lakota and others.

oh jubalee, but now its time to collect from the evil ones that have stole from us all these eons.



its said that the men in my family have the love of a female angel of War.
another strange oddity.

guese that would be very helpful in warfare.

[the perfect one]

http://www.us-government-torture.com/

Take a look at this kimball.

[kimball13]

just as i thought,,,,,,,,,,,,people are so sensitized to the truth and desenstized to lies that when they are told a truth the ignore it or attack it.

and well considering that women sex slaves have been helped and deprogramed as well as others, books have been sold and other supported, and every time the only proof was names and or documents.

i have those as well as well look at my avatar.

[venusinpisces]

just as i thought,,,,,,,,,,,,people are so sensitized to the truth and desenstized to lies that when they are told a truth the ignore it or attack it.

and well considering that women sex slaves have been helped and deprogramed as well as others, books have been sold and other supported, and every time the only proof was names and or documents.

i have those as well as well look at my avatar.

Well, there are definitely some people on this board who believe you..

[kimball13]

Well, there are definitely some people on this board who believe you..

i know.

but like the tell eachother, he's been doing it for so long what is another monthor year, i think i remember the 5 year number mentioned, i dont know,,,,,,,,,has something to do with not chanceing something,.

here look at this,,,,,,,oh and right now im going to here suggestible coments like 3 weeks or crap.


check this out on another thread, weird the timeing huh.

According to accounts released Saturday, April 24, 2010, by the coordinator of an e-mail news and information service, officials of the U.S. Defense Intelligence Agency (DIA), U.S. Air Force Office of Special Investigations (AFOSI) and other U.S. government agencies have been involved in security activities involving human-appearing extraterrestrial beings in the U.S.

Victor Martinez, the e-mail information coordinator, is a former federal employee with an interest in space, defense and current affairs. Recipients of his e-mail news items include a wide variety of people interested in emerging and leading-edge scientific and other developments.

In his April 24 information release, Martinez quoted one of his alleged established contacts, one of a handful of current or former officials of the DIA, regarding any new or updated information on extraterrestrial encounters that would be of interest to the public.

The DIA contact reportedly provided information about the monitoring and intervention by U.S. officials regarding a particular extraterrestrial being posing as a human within the U.S., Martinez wrote in his e-mail report.






http://www.americanchronicle.com/img/galleries/496/0/200_US_intelligence_community_1.jpg

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/image.php?u=18086&dateline=1254541089&type=profile


strange coincedence.

[kimball13]

fuck i hate doing this, the reason why is simple, its allot of shoulder weight, and resposobility.

and i am greatfull for God as well as others.

and the clooney charector is very familar, almost a kinda reflection, im just a bit more pissed.


It looks to be a battle over our minds between evil and good. God verses satan sending us messages. I think it's not us that are psychic but rather us being a vessel to receive the message. I really dont know but I know what the Bible says and I think the devil knows there is a fine line to this psychic stuff and I think he uses it to make us think we have power. Maybe I'm wrong. It's just bothered me for awhile now. I dont want to do anything bad. :)

you are the closest ive heard of it.

realy it is the closest ive ever heard outside of my own mind, this is i felt why i keep quiete about things until i hear someone mention them publicly.



ok now im going to speak ot the either:rolleyes:this is not about perfect ones post so ya all know im not bitting into her(i assume a she) ass.


Jim Channons moveie and goal was what, to kill and mame in the most covert way possible and safest to himself and his men:eek:mine is to find every possible way to save lives and remove the things that do not allow one to enjoy the american way,,,,,,,,,,the real one not this corprate crap.


oh there are two paths, both contain within them very similar things, almost indistiguashable,,,,,,,,,,,,,such as my kind, if we have to destroy something permantly then it must be the last resort, the only answer after most all others have been exhausted,,,,,,,,,,,,unless its a bitch of an emergency.


oh im watching men who stare at goats for the first time,,,,,,,,,,,,the book was shit,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,my path was called the Trojan warrior project.


her it is, under others names, one lived close by as a mater of fact.

must be time to tell it, oh i dont have a callender or such, it realy is intuition, not some kinda mind link.

oh but then i havent used it for a while, but just maybe i helped to develope it.


hay i even got a song by national guard and kid rock with dale earnheart JR,,,,,or i like to think so, its a good song,,,,,,,,,its online somewhere,,,,,i just wonder why it wasnt realeased????????????


wow told ya look what i found, looks like that fucking Doctor was caught:D

oh that fine line is like simple,,,,,,,,,,,men who stare at goats,,,,,,,,,,there goal was to kill the goat(kid), my job is to heal it, or you or whatever,,,,,,,,,,funny i was called the Kid,,,,,,,,,,,ok Channon you want to stare,,,,,,,,,,what happens when God winks back;)



and well it looks a bit muddy to me by all of them accept Guy SAvvali, he is the only one i would train with,,,,,,,who knows maybe he trained me.
never know maybe it took my crew a step father.

dont know yet.


http://www.worldkungfu.com/security1.html
Unfortunately, the waters have been muddied sufficiently that I must describe what this program is NOT. First of all, this has nothing to do with the US Army Special Forces now discredited "Trojan Warrior Project". This author has watched with dismay as the term "Warrior" is being slapped on every training program and job description as being fashionable. With all the Ninja warrior schools, books and videos available I find it ironic that while Imperial Japan was the source for both ninja and samurai warriors, it didn't prevent them from losing World War II. I know what you're probably thinking, but I don't recall Merril's Marauders using an atomic bomb to capture the airfield at Myitkyina, Burma.


ok now i know its fucking bullshit those fucking assholes,,,,,,,,just as i thought instead of how Guy does it they reversed it and kept me fucked up and just watched to try and learn how i do what i do.

that is why the run senarios and crap as training,,,,,,,,well funny ha hah ha,,,,,,think about this what if i reversed it and recruited all of there trainy's,,,,,,,,,uhoh Jango:rolleyes:

and all that is left is those that published those books, made those movies, made that money, sold remote veiwing material, remote influencing materieal,,,,,,,conversational hypnotism and a whole myriad of things,,,,,,now just for a moment what if the guy that was supposed to bringing others as in the public up to spead as well as provide a monacher of training incorporated in the public and private schools systems,,,,,,,,,,,,.

as in cultural edjucations blended with a taste of many of the world religiose edjucations,,,,,,,,,if we have freedom of religion, provide edjucation, etc then it should be tought in shcool, the basics to provide a level of knowledge to give a child choice when they become adults.

they teach art, philosophy, music, sports, metal work, wood work, and many other things that all come from what,,,,,,,,,,,,,religion,,,,,,,,,,,,,or cultural expresion of a tribe giving thanks or asking for relief(and again etc)....


So basicly our school system is just a bit upside down,,,,,,,,,,the reason is simple all of it is from our expression as well as prayers answerd through our group prayer and spiritual expressions.

if anyone wants to argue i do hope you have a real edjucation of a proffesorial capacity,,,,,,,,if anyone wants to pursue ther own solution finding then way cool.




http://webcache.googleusercontent.com/search?q=cache:n_MycvXnYgYJ:www.aiki-extensions.org/pubs/aen9.doc+Trojan+warrior+project&cd=2&hl=en&ct=clnk&gl=us&client=safari
For fifteen years I have been doing projects with the U.S. Military, especially the Special Operations Groups – Army Green Berets, Navy SEALS, and Air Force ParaJumpers. Centered on building a warrior ethos in a technological age, these programs incorporate physical fitness, mental discipline, ethics, spiritual values, leadership training, and team cohesion within a martial context. Aikido, in practice and philosophy, has deeply informed all of these programs. For example, in the Trojan Warrior Project with the Army Green Berets we practiced aikido daily for six months with gis and in a formal dojo. The distinctions of the art – blending, center, extension, relaxation, irimi, musubi, shugyo, tenkan, hanmi, zanshin – were integrated into their professional military responsibilities, as well as their personal lives. In other programs we would work only with the principles, outside the dojo environment, in the field, on training operations, and in planning and briefing sessions. In all these instances, including the Marine Warrior Project, the distinctions of aikido produced an operational sensibility that permeated all their practices.

In the mid-nineties I helped design and deliver a series of conferences entitled Marine Vision 21 for the Commandant of the Marine Corps and his General Officers Symposium. The idea was to look at what was required for the Marine Corps to be successful in the 21st Century. At that time I met General Jim Jones, who was captivated by the idea of developing a martial skill for the Marine Corps that was grounded in ethical, moral, and spiritual values. As a Battalion Commander at Camp Pendleton many years before, he had a retired Gunnery Sergeant teach martial arts. General Jones noticed that as his troops pursued their martial arts practice, morale picked up and incidents such as unauthorized absences, drug and alcohol abuse, and domestic violence decreased. He also noticed many of the Marines practicing on their own in a mood of passion and joy. At the conferences we enjoyed lively conversations about this topic. Later, when he became military advisor to Secretary of Defense Cohen, I would drop in when I was at the Pentagon, and we continued to formulate the idea of a martial arts program that would engage what he called "The Whole Marine." When he was named Commandant of the Marine Corps we began to focus on the possibility of designing a program to teach leadership values through a martial skill. From these conversations grew the Marine Warrior Project.

see what has happend for 15 fucking years to me and what it has caused to occur.


ohwell until i am given what i need, or come copletely out of it.


for one,,,,,,i would like to bring to your attention the Green Beret comments,,,,,,,,,,,so why is it the army in a marine project.


ya the marine corps is fucked up good this time,,,,,,,what they did in Mogadishu is a large enough crime in itself to do an intense investigation and hold someone accoutable in the Marine Corps,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh those month long tests,,,,,,,one of the highest ranking,,,,,,,,,or actualy he was going to recieve his promotion,,,,,,,,,,,soon when he was administering the eye hand cordination tests.

The plot thickens,,,,,,,,,,all of the proof and evidence to shut them down and investigate it is there,,,,,,,,,,,,as well as reactivating my guys,,,,,,,,,,sorry Demo Dick,,,,,,,,,,but the finger does point in your direction in so many ways.


as for Jim Channon well that is a differnt story, i just am but hurt about him,,,,,,,,but until i have a chance to read or hear his part or non-part in it,,,,,,,,im going to stay a bit buthurt.

sorry but i am human i think,,,,,,,,,.

But butthurt is what you do with brothers and such,,,,,,,,Richard Macinko i dont know,,,,,,,,,,,after all SEals, Marines, etc, corporations, might explane why his stuff was shut down, When testing our own we should never harm them or humiliate them(fucking idiot),,,,,,,,,,,,thing is i remember climbing up a very cold metal pipe on a oil platform, in vey cold water, oh just as he mentions in his books,,,,,,,,.


ah crap i just saw the crashing computers scene.


but im an angel of life.
cool he said just kidding.


1983???????????????????????????????


and the letter E was the mistake that was made,,,,,it harms the frontal lobe to say the least,,,,,,but healing is possible.

So there you have it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,part of how they infiltrated and took a good thing and tried to turn it bad.

now the question is who.

crazy weird, as im typeing the movie is almost going right along or is it that i have a good idea of what happend.

damit whoi s the clooney charector.


please understand this, i know there must be some good marines, but realy this is out of hand.
no wonder its marines doing well and army on the streets drunk and indegant.
ask what service and then how much they have,,,,,but please dont hate the marines, every group or branch goes off of the path at some point.







http://www.strozziinstitute.com/node/197


Over the last 25 years, he has delivered his programs to an extraordinary range of clients: not only to executives at companies such as Pfizer, Motorola, Cargill, Microsoft, Hewlett-Packard, Cemex, and Capitol One, but to senior military leaders, U.S. Marines, Navy SEALs, and counterinsurgency agents operating behind the front lines. He has also worked with law enforcement officials, urban gang members, prisoners, Olympic athletes, and professional sports teams. The level of conditioning among these highly varied participants runs the gamut from channel surfer to triathlete. Yet in Strozzi’s classes they come together in a choreography of complex movement that is physically challenging but unconnected to the Western understanding of athletics.


Over the next few years, Strozzi would develop similar programs forNavy SEALs, Air Force rescue jumpers, and counterinsurgency operatives in hot spots like Afghanistan. In 1994, Major General Jim Jones, commandant of the U.S. Marines and former supreme allied commander of NATO, along with Assistant Commandant General Richard Hearney, asked Strozzi to create a corps-wide aikido-based program that would become part of basic training for every marine. Hearney was concerned about the values held by younger marines who had been raised in single-parent homes. He felt as if the technical training they received was not enough and was concerned about helping the marines adapt to a changing geopolitical environment. Having been exposed to tae kwon do while a platoon commander in Korea, Jones believed that the discipline, fierceness, and motivation that the practice instilled in the South Korean troops gave them advantages that the young marines would need to face a world of change. In 1986, as a batallion commander at Camp Pendleton, he began teaching martial arts to recruits; as a result, alcohol and drug abuse, along with domestic violence, unauthorized absences, and brawling, decreased. Morale soared.

The Fort Devon pilot also resulted in a significant increase in the participants’ leadership ability, as evidenced by one unit’s performance in leading the action in the 1993 battle of Mogadishu in Somalia. “That was not an original goal, but it was an outcome,” says Strozzi. “The soldiers who’d been through the program had learned to carry themselves in a way that inspired greater confidence and trust. Because they were calmer, they were much better in a crisis. Because they had more awareness of what triggered their aggression, they took more responsibility for their actions. Plus, they were far more attuned to what other people were thinking and feeling. All these changes translated into a leadership presence.”


weird is that near an ARmy base, also weird is it was Rangers and Delta mostly in mogadishu.

so why was it around 93-94 that this realy kicked off for other branches.


that is why i said it isnt time,,,,,,,,,that is why,,,,,,,,,it was planned when it was ready for others then it would be taught by us, .....

So now is the ashole Kevin Spacey scene where hes doing the mk-ultra thing.

makes allot of sense, as to what i was supposed to shut down and clean up then figure out what is good and what is evil,,,,,,,,,,that is why i told them flat out its not time.

damit, so there isa bit more.

So soon i will go out and see how many tails i got this afternoon.

earlier it was like a bad spy movie.

i wish i could just not write this but if i dont then more damage with be done.

if this is not disclosed in a public way to help humanity find out how many techinques they missuse and what there proper use is then the level of cruelty and inhumane crap will continue to grow.

That is what Abu Grab was for, to genrate a vibration, to put it simply.

[kimball13]

realy creepy, that last post was 97, the same time that i was in that testing lab in ST Lou MO


yep in the movie, the goat lab has a upside down pentagram on its sign,,,womak medical center,,,,,,,,,,,so is that Kamow death center backwards.

here is another funny thing about this all.

some say im the one to do this because im hte weakest link, well i say how would you know, especialy if every link is broken but me.
and well it doesnt matter,,,,,,,,,,,,,,who is strongest doesnt matter or whatever.

But then how is it i did not commit suicide or die.
weird huh.


so is the anvil a hammer,,,,,,,,,,the metal of an anvil used for centuries im sure is much better than a chinese track sword,,,,,,,,,,ya the tracks make good metal for making swords because of the constant pressure and temprature changes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,there is a lead into gold analagy,,,,,,,,,,,,and by the way,.



im at the scene, just before 1:16 whatever that is on the disc thingy.

anyways i see why now, i might be the only one not under the curse he speaks of,,,,,,,,,it also coincides with allot of what ive shared about a curse of cain:( like i noticed my life has so many achetypal lessons and such roled into a very short time.

i gotta calm down im starting to get a bit overwelmed, or underwelmed, kinda like when allot of weight comes off of your shoulder that ive carried around for a good portion of my life ot my weight to carry but grown men whom tought to have wisdom,,,,,,,,,well that is up to them to change and God to condem if that is to be,,,,,,,,,,maybe that is why the movie put out,,,,,,and done in a comedic format i dont know.

but ive gotta take a break, it is like an amends, in a strange way, yet this takes place as a kinda way,,,,,,,,after all apache ways can be complicated when dicerning the differnce between avenging and vengence and what corse of actions to take if avenging comes about as well as the solutions that can right it again without just continueing this DArk Side cycle.
maybe that is why that woman at mental health wore that t-shirt embrace the darkside.


So meditate on wise things for yourself, what others say of wisdom let it speak through there actions weather to listen to them or not, is it just words an quotes or do the realy have a bit of wisdom and love.

lets see ok im taking a break now.

or is it going to work and this is a break for me.

realy it is a bit cumbersome doing it this way but then i dont have AT&T or other forune 100 companys to give me a boost up, a new car, a house, etc.

jerks.:eek::D

[drcloak]

Sometimes I tickle myself with fabricated mists of detection. They fail to locate the mingling aspects, a whirling sense of shame and pleasure; in combination with certain names that you can't pronounce. Its great under the cabinet.

[the perfect one]

Sometimes I tickle myself with fabricated mists of detection. They fail to locate the mingling aspects, a whirling sense of shame and pleasure; in combination with certain names that you can't pronounce. Its great under the cabinet.

LOL-What? :confused:

I didnt understand that post. Maybe it's just me.

[the perfect one]

Hi, Kimball do you still have this chip in you?

[kimball13]

Sometimes I tickle myself with fabricated mists of detection. They fail to locate the mingling aspects, a whirling sense of shame and pleasure; in combination with certain names that you can't pronounce. Its great under the cabinet.

are you a p-trap.
or is it a j-whatever, elbow.
a plumber maybe.

freeky weird avatar.

ever here the AC/DC song war machine.

it brings back teen years.

crazy, you just described how i feal about outing all of this about myself.

after all, nobody else wants to admit that they were a bit used by some and neither do i .

i like the queen song better warboys.

but ya its a bit crazy wierd, just as your poem.


funny thing is you remind me of someone, Jim maybe.
Nah couldnt be, that and well nobody is that humorous about such things accept him so it can be,,,,,,,,,,,,,nah.

oh well never know.

but your poem says allot about what im going through,.

something i struggle with is this, and im jsut going to say it,,,,,,,,,back when i got word my dad died i didnt feal a thing.
ive thought well maybe just maybe that sneaky basterd is still kicking somewhere doing something i might do if in a weird crazy situation,,,such as ive described.
nah couldnt be,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but im going to say this much,,,,,,,,,,That movie men who stare at goats was much better than i thought i twould be.

funny also i had the same reaction Channon did,,,,,,,,,,,,i call it a sense of sacraligiouse anger,,,,,,,,,oh thats kidna exatly what he said.

anyways, i just want to say there are a few i aloud myself to be angry with, thing is my anger is combined with love to find the truth no matter how hard or painfull.


a screw it, i dont need to explain my love or the things i understand.

after all im the anvil he's the hammer, and someday a hammer big enough is going to be needed,,,,,,,,and well an anvil is a pretty big hunk of metal:D

strange how that stuck in my head, i think that goes back aways.

oh the hammer anvil thing, well two things you need to make a sword.


i just want to say, i hope STrozzi was thrown out, or at least whatever,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,im just but hurt abotu a few,,,,,,,,,,,,,but his Trojan warrior book, its timming and how i was misstreated and messed with.

well to bad get over it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,people around here treated me like crap,,,,,,,,,,you name it they shamed me for it,,,,,,,,,,,if it was mine i have no problem correcting it if possible,,,,,,,,,,,,but blame me or such for things not of my creating and wamo.


kidna like a lady trying to use sublingual programing suggestive techinique,,,,,,,,,,,,she said you better stop saying you know.

in othe words, part of what was done, some crazy knew more than she should,,,,,,,matter of fact i already knew just by looking at her years ago,,,,,,,,,,the crazy dike with her well i kinda like her, she's just a bit oputunistic and messed up,,,,,,,,,,,,but then so am i,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh and she doenst mind calling herself a dike,,,,,,,,,,,,so why wouldnt a superdike get along with a wargod:D:D

thing is back in 94 or so i remember saying to others i dont know so much it kinda made it an idont remember thing.

and well, even if they didnt know then the found out and then took advantage.


i just wonder, did the marine corps under STrozzi do this crap,,,,,,,,,,why were Green Berets being used in a Marine Corps project.

or were they kidnapped and used as kind like labrats, put in maze's and crap to be watched and shit.

i jsut want to say this to everyone out there.

years back after Jim's litle chuckle about that implant i decided,,,,,,,,,,,,or we dicided to use my anger and crap against them.

its in the movie what Jango Does sometimes.
or do i do it to.
weird freaky stuff.

so am i,,,,,,,,,,,,,a bit off today yet allot more centerd.

last nights show on Coast to Coast said allot of what ive been spewing about for a few years.

testosterone and estragen.
male energy and female energy.
dude broke it down, the same way i already knew about,,,,,,but then im not a Doctor and such,,,,,,,but im a kinda driver to the mechanic kidna thing,,,,,,,,,,.



So Jim if you are reading this, im sure you know about method acting, heck who knows maybe you taught me that,,,,,,,,,,,,,putting ones self in a state until the job is done,,,,,,.
i am going to leave it there for now, i dont like going into those details just yet.
sounds to excusey, but then the truth is the truth sometimes.

and well imve been one confused puppy like how the fuck have i been under there nose this whole time.

dam i hear it everday,,,,,,,,,,how did they miss him of all of them,,,,,,,,,,.

might be why i only feel at ease around Millitary types, especialy the special types,,,,,,,,,,,weird huh,,,,,,,,,,,my heart tells me to protect them,,,,,,,,,,weird huh,,,,,,,,,,,one guy like me fealing like the best need to be protected:rolleyes:is it ego or love,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well my ego is my love,,,,,,,im talking the good ego,,,,,,,,,,my confusion is when my ego gets in the way,,,,,,,like being confused about my fealings towards some,,,,,,,,,,,its love not arrogance,,,,,,,,,,,,and im sure some hearts are warmed,,,,,,,,,,,jsut like mine is when a child waves, i feal blessed when a child acknoledges my deeds,,,,,,,,,,its weird but something if kept secret about why some dont give up,,,,,,,,,.

alright, i getting all teary eyed, .

Oh the Kevil Spacey charector reminds me of the dude that i met at a sundance,,,,,long story but my anger that some thought was Channon was realy that dude,,,,,,,,,,,,,not Jim,,,,,,,,,,,,,the ange about jim, im embarrased to say but its kinda like a child that felt abandoned, you know like when a child blames a parent for not keeping them safe.
weird huh.
but its the truth.
dont konw why and realy i do care, but i dont because until God decides i will just leave it as two kindred souls,,,,,,,,,,he is just older so naturaly a young man expects his older brothers to be there for him, or his mom and dad:(

oh im not whinning, just being honest.


alright billys squire is on, so im going.

[kimball13]

Hi, Kimball do you still have this chip in you?

dont know,,,,,,,,,,,but maybe that is why david house nearly cut my fucking head of in Neb:mad:

good thing he didnt.

i knew he would not,,,,,,,,,oh and i also have a strange gift,,,,,,,,,,,a light bender gift.

imagine all them samurie moveis where they guy disarms or uses there own sword in the own hand and manuvers them to cutting ther own throat.

that same man found out my skills sparring one day with bokens.

i ended up behind him with him on his knees, his sword under his chin, with mine right there also, kinda scissor effect.

gues he was trying to be me or like me,,,,,,,,,,is that the trojan warrior project.

sorry bout that,,,,,,,,,,,,but those films are pretty new,,,,,,,,,,,,,and well dont know,,,,,,,,,,,after all they can knock me out when they want with it,,,,,,,,,,probley because of what i can do.
so i dont blame them nor,,,,,,well whatever,,,,,,,,,,to much right now,,,,,,,,,,,still trying to let some things settle.

and i dont like being a bit dishonest to those around me,,,,,,,,,,maybe that is why i post.

and kinda just be one of the bunch,,,,,,,if they know then cool i dont have much to hide,,,,,,,,,,but i have allot to teach and correct here in this area.

[kimball13]

to start with some more proof.

marine corps recruiters getting female recuite high,,,,,,giveing drugs to and telling them to have sex,,,,,,,,,,,,basicly using recrutement offices for a prostitusion ring for marines:eek:

same area as strozzi???????????????????

now they recrute from prisons,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya department of corrections is there venue now,,,,,,,,,,first millitary,,,,,,,,,then cults,,,,,,,,,,,,then addicts,,,,,,,,,,,then convicts and other such people,,,,,,,,,,,,now only one person has been in it the entire time trying to shut it down.

well more than one,,,,,,,,,,and that one has to bee out in the open while watching those around him trying to front off being me:rolleyes:


howd they do it,,,,,,,,,well they took my stuff and put there names on it and ran amuk.

basicly.

oh and its not about who my father is,,,,,,,,,,assholes,,,,,,,,,,,,,and its not about me getting out of daddys shadow,,,,,,,,,,,reason being is nobody knew and those that used that as an exucuse that is exatly what it is.


now im going to post a sci fi book i havnt read, but it is aprapoh,


ogh by the way, when im given what i nead and comfortable i still do my work,,,,,,,,,but when i get an influx of money's i go shopping to restock and pay my bills which when things build up takes time andthen i end up off track abit shifting gears,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya they have made every exuse based on there shortcommings and charetor defects.


anyone know what an autonomous agent is,,,,,,,,,,,,i do i helped desing that program,,,,,,,,hence why i gave a kinda memorie block when tortured.


this is screwed realy,,,,,the missinfo on a mass scale, a very simple thing done but very complex to undo.

im sure some have heard of the book of 1984, well dont forget that facet,,,,,,,,,but instead of just single words its the context, numbering, format, inflections, etc,,,,,,,,,,,and what is a complex cell type stucture,,,,,,,,and if you master one and gain control then you are top dog,,,,,,,,,just like Robert anton LaVey and Aquino created to control populace and take away any thought of God other than conditioned pavolovian responces.

as ive put up on this thread about social influencing.:eek:
and well its not about a personal relligiouse grudge of mine,,,,,,,,the same could be said for them yet they still interfere with my life and such,,,,,,,,,,,so by there own actions they have shown there biased cruel attitude and even far worse in there actions and manipulations of systems, turning a system into a program that does not change, in a constant state of stagnation, and any new thing is killed and then its husk is stolen and turned into a program:mad:.

and dont twist what a 12 step program is and compare it to an est or scientology type crap

12 steps is a way, a solution, the term program is used for simplicity and such.
see how 1984 crap works,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh ya that is why they say be impecable with your speach.

anyways it would be real nice to have the resorces and such i nead to do what im good at,,,,,,,,,not that i havnt done a bit so far by just being analyzed,,,,,,,,not that im sneaky i just see a way to help even if the avenue starts off as a hinderance or harmfull intent ment for me.


oh thats the same stuff Jim Channon talks about in his first earth battalion stuff,,,,,,,you know men who stare at goats movie,,,,,,,,,,,,,but then he is more able to write and such do to the opurtunity to recieven an edjucation as welll as certain comforts and resorces,,,,,,,,,,,,so just because i can do what he does with far less, even though not as pretty is still as effective,,,,,,,,,,now consider this,,,,,,,,,,what if i had his resorces,,,,,,,,,.

So that is one more of there excuses,,,,,,,and why they ended up using more funds to keep me messed up than if they gave me 13 billion dollar budget a year:eek:is probley where it got to at one point,,,,,,,,,.

i dont know,,,,,but im sure if an investigation is done.

how much did that bridge cost in Fort Bragg CA,,,,,,,,,,,,????????????now the kick backs and such was what locals got, the city's and county recieved infrastucture stuff,,,,,,,,,,,and well i knew that was going on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so tell me what would Beckwith do,,,,,,,,what would Demo Dick do,,,,,,,,,What would Jim Channon do,,,,,,,,,,,,and what would Teddy Roosevelt do,,,,,,,,,,,,and now since Christ was already crusified what would his Man do, guese they didnt think Jesus would have a champion such as i but hay who's to choose,,,,,,,not i or you, and that is my delema and battle, my enemy is of not fealing good enough, responsible enough,,,,,,,less than,,,,,,and then i thought again and reviewed my heart and life's experiences, with the strange memories and such,,,,,,,,,,the vision i had in 94, the visions and dreams as a boy,,,,,,,,,,,the animals calling out to me telling me i wasnt alone,,,,,,,now we speak in a strange way,,,,,,,,,i think animals understand me more than i do them at times.



oh back on topic.

in the area im in there was another city close by,,,,,,,,,,it was a mental hospital that in the early 80's was shut down and all of the patients were released, just told to walk kinda thing,,,,,,,,there were around 5,000 of them,,,,,,,,,,who knows what was done to them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,there were also unmarked graves of uncounted people found,.

so the historie around here is crazy weird.
oh that hospital is now a monastary, budhist, nice place now with what theyve done,,,,,,,,,but there are rooms and building they will not go in because of the energy,,,,,,,,,,.

dont panic though, but one key is emotions, that is part of how to kill the virus, but love an such, morning grief etc, real stuff, it cant be faked emotions,,,,,,,,,realy i am seriose,,,,,,,or is it im sirus and paledies,,,,,,,na couldnt be.


ironic on the first page the chapter titled febuary thirteenth:confused:

oh i suppose my pecular makeup makes i difficult for it to take to much hold, oh and this is kind abstract,,,,,,,,,,,im using this fictional tale for getting it out.

for example that virus is partial congnitive dissonance and pavoloviand combined

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and one more coincedence,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1979,,,,,,,,,,,,,strange i would find and stuble on the right stuff,,,,,,,,go figure,,,,,,,,,,and they want to know how some of us do it,,,,,,,,,well try looking up,,,,,,,,and not at the satilights.

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so, i dont know what to say,,,,,,,,,,but until i have my stuff back this is all i can offer for now,,,,,,,,,,God does most of the work.

but you know i think its kinda like God is makeing the list about comeupanses,,,,,,,,,thats why i let most of it go,,,,,until they form a habit and then well i hate shaking people up to get them to feel emotions again,,,,,,,,,,oh i dont do it cruely or violently,,,,,,,,more i just kinda well hard to explain,,,,,,,,,,,,,its kinda like heart surgerie,,,,,,,,,,,but it cannot be taught and trust me i wish i could just teach it like a college corse sometimes.

and not out of survival, that would be great,,,oh ya that didnt work because of jeoulousey's and crap then caste me aside is that why Two of htem where marine's,,,,,,,,,one was even an embassy guard,,,,,,,,ya both setup,,,,,,,,,,,,but one was real bad and such,,,,,,,,the other well hard to explain but just the same how do you defend one murderer and not the other,,,,,,as well as condem one and not the other,,,,,,,,that is when God steps in and deals with it for me.

anyways,,,,,,,,,,,hang in there if anyone out there is experiencing this,,,,,,,,,,,,,and cool there goes a few more locks.

hard to explain.

thank Hendrix for one, realy.

castles made of sand will drift into the sea eventualy.
and dont forget,,,,,,,,,,,,Stand up next to a mountain and chop it down with the edge of my hand.

simple shit can get you through allot, trust that.



oh, im know doctor, i dont think,,,,,,,but i think i might be a D.R. and i dont want to go into it,,,,,,,,,but i will say it has to do with what i was taught as a boy,,,,,,,and its of apache culture.

So also in my reveiwing my life's experiences,,,,,,,,,,,,,ive been trained in many things without a formal writting or math,,,,,,,,,,,,,i find it strange,,,,,,,,and very weird.

As you probley can tell by now,,,,,,,,,,,,so was it training or my fist goal.

ohwell we will find out together

[kimball13]

oh that marine thing was years ago.

and i had a fealing and then saw it in the news.

old phoenix crap,,,,mkultra shit and such,,,,,,,someone had a bright idea.

basicly the marine corp picked up where the army was jammed up completeing before using certain things,,,,,,,,,,,fucking idiots,,,,,,,,,,thrown in with a few stupid people,,,,,,,,,,the idiots can be taught and correted but stupid,,,,,well.:rolleyes:

[christ4life]

Hopes that Spore has nothing to do with the videogame.

[kimball13]

Hopes that Spore has nothing to do with the videogame.


which one, havnt played them.

last one i played was called baldurs gate,,,,,,,full of weird stuff having to do whith Bhaal.

[kimball13]

Spore is a multi-genre single-player metaverse god game
Covering many genres including action, real-time strategy and RPG, Spore allows a player to control the development of a species from its beginnings as a microscopic organism, through development as an intelligent and social creature, to interstellar exploration as a spacefaring culture. It has drawn wide attention for its massive scope, and its use of open-ended gameplay and procedural generation. Throughout each stage, players are able to use various creators to produce content for their games. These can then be uploaded to the online Sporepedia and downloaded by other players.
Spore was released after several delays to generally favourable reviews. Praise was leveled at the various creators which allowed players to create practically any creature, vehicle and building. However, Spore was criticised for its gameplay which was seen as shallow by many reviewers; Gamespot remarked: "Individual gameplay elements are extremely simple." Controversy surrounded Spore for its DRM because various aspects of it were not disclosed to the player.

migt be part of the social influencing thing to create god's,,,,,,,,or to cause Indigo children or adults to believe something and skirt ona fine line,,,,,,,depending on there understanding of the term biblical and such.

but most believe video game stuff so this causes some to go wonkers and influenced by social influencing and brainwasher types find them that show or exihibit certain traits

but if a person has a wel rounded open place to share ideas and such can learn to dicern as well as have knoweldge to know there is a God then gods,,,,,gods are those that listen to God,,,,,,close to angels ina way.

nephlim are a differnt story.

[kimball13]

but then there is just games and such that are funn and can be a good thing to exercise judgement in a video game and know that is a game and reality is a bit differnt.

[aeroshaft]

You're not completely crazy but you're pretty insane. You won't even answer the questions.

1) What did the physician who looked at the scan say?
2) For what purpose was the scan?
3) IF and I mean IF, it is something implanted meant to fuck with you, posting on a thread and thinking the ones who implanted it will see it is ridiculous.

You're a soldier fighting a battle for your soul. Spiritually and mentally, stay focused. Even if it is some sort of chip built by some alien or government, it's not wise to dwell in it. Your Spirit is stronger than anything in this dimension as it is a vessel for which the Divine Spirit, the cosmic divine channels. Nothing is higher than creation itself. Meditate, try and focus hard and I mean hard on memories you believe to be divine. Mess around with it and see if it truly is doing something thought wise. You can subconsciously be controlled as long as you don't live in the moment and aren't aware of your spiritual essence.

Post the answers to the questions, though. We're all curious bud.

[kimball13]

You're not completely crazy but you're pretty insane. You won't even answer the questions.

1) What did the physician who looked at the scan say?
2) For what purpose was the scan?
3) IF and I mean IF, it is something implanted meant to fuck with you, posting on a thread and thinking the ones who implanted it will see it is ridiculous.

You're a soldier fighting a battle for your soul. Spiritually and mentally, stay focused. Even if it is some sort of chip built by some alien or government, it's not wise to dwell in it. Your Spirit is stronger than anything in this dimension as it is a vessel for which the Divine Spirit, the cosmic divine channels. Nothing is higher than creation itself. Meditate, try and focus hard and I mean hard on memories you believe to be divine. Mess around with it and see if it truly is doing something thought wise. You can subconsciously be controlled as long as you don't live in the moment and aren't aware of your spiritual essence.

Post the answers to the questions, though. We're all curious bud.

you havent read a word and you are also re-vicimizing me with the memorie repression reinforcement.

no not insane,,,,,,,,actualy very sane,,,,,,,,,normal responce is to act a bit crazy in an unhealthy envioroment,,,,,,,,its only the crazy and insane that can feal normal in insanity, capeshes.

so should i re-write it all just so you can feel empowerd:eek:

try reading it, and then look down, at my other thread, now go read it, dont condem or judge until youve read it, ive given more than enough proof,,,,,,,,,,,,,check it out,,,,,,,,,,,but then i know some troll for my kind its like finiding a stray dog isnt it,,,,,,,,,,,,sorry but ive seen that type,,,,,,so if you dont get it twisted i wont.

[kimball13]

You're not completely crazy but you're pretty insane. You won't even answer the questions.

1) What did the physician who looked at the scan say?
2) For what purpose was the scan?
3) IF and I mean IF, it is something implanted meant to fuck with you, posting on a thread and thinking the ones who implanted it will see it is ridiculous.

You're a soldier fighting a battle for your soul. Spiritually and mentally, stay focused. Even if it is some sort of chip built by some alien or government, it's not wise to dwell in it. Your Spirit is stronger than anything in this dimension as it is a vessel for which the Divine Spirit, the cosmic divine channels. Nothing is higher than creation itself. Meditate, try and focus hard and I mean hard on memories you believe to be divine. Mess around with it and see if it truly is doing something thought wise. You can subconsciously be controlled as long as you don't live in the moment and aren't aware of your spiritual essence.

Post the answers to the questions, though. We're all curious bud.

actualy ive answered all of those questions,,,,,,im not on trial,,,,,,,im actual trying to save your fucking ass to put it bluntly,,,,,,,,,,,,,there is a reason i walk in a meek way with humility, even when angry and upset,,,,,,,,,,not because of what i say about me,,,,,,,,,,,,but what others have said about me and my being carefull and responsible for my gifts,,,,,,yet they just feared me,,,,,,,,so why is that,,,,,,,,,heck an airforce blackops colonal even said to me,,,,,,,,,i am his Wargod,,,,,,,,,,,fucking freaked me out,,,,,,,,,,,,,so meditation ya,,,,,,,,,thing is i dont mess around with remote veiwing,,,,,,,,or any of that when it messes with others will,,,,,,,,,,i feel that if God gave us free will then why should i try to take anothers will over,,,,,,,,,now in war and a battle between Life(me) and Death(badguy) i tend to use my will to over power theres, or to let them implode upon there own force of will against mine,,,,,,,,,,,i love Aikido,,,,,,as well as Hungar,,,,,,,,,,Wong Fei Hung and Morehie Usheba are two of my go to guys kinda thing,,,,,,,,,,,i follow Jesus if you want to put it that way,,,,,,,,,but my job is knowing what weopon to use against Satan,,,,,to put it mildly in a simple context kinda what is going on,,,,,,,,,,,,sorry to sould dramatic,,,,,,,,,,,but it is what others have said in a very perverted way as to even dicount the bible's verses,,,,,,,well not discount but read it oposite while takeing the rest verbatem,,,,,,,,and what they said was that the one that defeats satan for God and Jesus, and destroys the anti-christ and his dudes,,,,,,,,,,so how did the confuse him for the anitchrist,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,anyways,.

read a bit.

[kimball13]

sorry to sound like an asshole,,,,,,,,,,but im not doing this for my own benfit,,,,,it is more than that,,,,,,,,,,and well think of Chronicle of Riddick kinda focus on my enemy.

and then think if a man did live and was like that and had allot of freinds similar to him,,, Furrians:Dmount up.

just kidding.

but not realy.

and ive been under a great deal of stress if you read the threads listed below,,,,,,,the king arthur one tells more of the story and is also in the thick of a major shift,,,,,,,,remember wall st.

[kimball13]

here is what i found today, sometime ago within the past couple of years the same man that said there were 1,860 in the know and doing this crap,,,,,,,,also told me Heather was murderd, i puked,,,,,,for me to puke shows how much i feel for her,,,,,,,,,and this is either another cruel attempt to fuck my head up or she lives.

i listend to the first 44 mins so far,,,,,in the first 6-6;40 he says some things about they have her in hidding and keeping her sick,,,,,,,,as well as how him and wife are self centerd,,,,,,,,so,,,,,,,,,,,is it she,,,,,,,or another ruse,,,,,,,,,,do they have what she may have had,,,,,,,those disks and such,,,,,,,,,,or what,,,,,,,,,,,,,anyways,

i will get back to the interview at some point,.

so, you know she was m first love, ive loved her myentire life, she was my best freind:( im talking you know like 5 years old,,,,,,,,,were we both separated because of these programs and projects,,,,,,,,,,,:mad:


She was on the run and Ben Murphy and his wife took her in... And then after a short time she left Florida and went for a time, if Ben's testimony is accurate to the New York area... And after that to perhaps Europe, then disappeared. To this day, beyond the attached 17 page pdf file we have received none of the volumes of material that she supposedly stole from the underground base where she worked. The story goes that she was helped to escape, by a "unit" and a reptilian.

...Everything about the Heather Material is outlandish and stretches the bounds of even the most prolific imagination into the science fiction genre. I guess that is why its attraction is so pervasive. That and the fact that very credible whistleblowers have come forward talking about very similar things... just never in this detail and with this human pathos.. Heather writes...

"I also saw firsthand the psychological issues the units dealt with, when they were activated they would
often just cry, or walk in circles and rock back and forth, the brain could not handle the electrical
outputs of the various devices and implants and it also messed with motor skills of the unit. On paper
these guys were the fastest and strongest humans we have, in theory they were emotional wrecks with
no idea who they were or what they were. This was the start of my turn against the system as they were
all in the ages of 17 and 18 years old, they were just babies, young men that were tortured."

http://www.projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/heather_material/heather_material.html


well those 1,860 individuals know exatly what i am and capable of, as well as,,,,

here is the catch 22 for me personaly,,,,,,,,,,with what i know and experienced,,,,,,,,,,,,,the spiritual stuff could be some crap or the crap could be trying to create doubt about myself as in confidence and such


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a bit similar, something they want to figure out how to do,,,,,,,,,,that wisping of clouds in men who stare at goats, well imagine a boy in that group and because of other factors he is a bit of a natural.

the purpose of the implant im not sure.

but it may be some sort of inhibitor.

can you blame them if i can do such a thing,,,,,,,,,,,or i didnt use to, but now i blame at least 1,860 of them and well its been awhile, exuces have been ran out along time ago,,,,,,,,,the dragging feet might get them cut off.

[aeroshaft]

Bro, everything you deciphered is false. I'm not judging you, I'm not putting you on trial but to the society around, you're pretty fucking insane. You made four posts rephrasing the same things you've been saying.

First of all, take a deep breath and read the words proceeding this sentence.

Meditation is the act of focusing on one thing, whatever that may be (your breath, heartbeat, etc.) and becoming aware and fully conscious of the moments that pass. This can be done sitting in a lotus position with your eyes closed or laying down in bed or any other position that isn't requiring you to physically challenge yourself. Meditation works by becoming conscious and by that, more control over your mind.

This whole Jesus thing is fun and all while you're 8, but seriously, grow up. Quit putting your own destiny in some made up, thousands of years dead zombie who is supposed to come back. He's not coming back, but you know who's already here? You. Learn to work on your outbursts of words. Quit ranting and rambling about things and get off the computer, go on a hike, a walk or something else and enjoy the sun. There is no reason for aliens to implant a chip on someone who just absorbs any idea that is given to him. Don't become psychotic because that's when it gets hard to come back. I've been there, lost all connections to reality and it sucked, but you have to, HAVE TO realize that Spirit is always, always with you. Even in the rough, even in the good, it's always with you. You just need to open your eyes and quit walking up hill with your head down.

Life is hard only if you make it hard. These perceptions you have of the powers of this world are illusions you made up from different movies, cartoons or comic books or just some other fantasy going on in your mind. We have creative minds to utilize for our benefit, not unknowingly stab ourselves with. Don't let your thoughts wander off so much, there is only what you see in this world, nothing more and nothing less.

Relax brother, you need to get a hold of yourself. I know I'm not you and don't know exactly what you feel and think you know, but I do know my ways around the extremities of our mind and you're pulling yourself down an endless pit.

I merely don't have the time to read every post. This is a huge website and I just joined, still trying to separate crazy nonsense talk from absolutely crazy nonsense talk. There are many, many different things to ponder over, but when the pondering is over, you have gained nothing. You haven't raised your awareness, you haven't become more in tune with the Spirit, you haven't done shit. Take it from a guy who's been in the deep -- control yourself, train yourself, utilize yourself. Without a clear mind you can't understand anything.

[kimball13]

example, when one of my children was nearly murderd it created a ripple effect of my hearts pain, as well as battleing with the enemy,,,,,,,,its not easy to explane but when i have to remove my protections due to the abuse adn torture going on then i cannot and am not resposible for what happens.

So like i said, if i have to i will let it all fall,,,,,,,,,,,i can do nothing else,,,,,,its an Aikido thing.

now there is also my defence, its called Hungar shoulin 5 anmimall style.

ya i suppose a bit backwards but it is effective as well as non cruel as well as for an enemy to die means they are of a souless variety, and well i may go hunting at some point, in a very legal way as well as to protect the many i love, ya even though i haven expressed it so much i do have love,,,,,,,,,.

and well my behavior has realy been that of text book stable and emotionaly stable.

crazy as it sounds.


oh ya Dr Lear said it was alien,,,,,,,andhe could not remove it, then he and coast to coast as well as others kinda scatterd a bit like lights on cockroaches action.


oh ive had no neck surgeriery iether.

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there is a better scan of it,,,,,,notice the coil that looks like an antenae.

the motor system, as i thought, probley to shock me and kinda nock me out.

im the real Rhino, not jose pedilia,,,,,,,,,,,his story ironicly came out after i mentioned the rhino exercise i was taught as a boy, some call it iron shirt technique.

so because of just the rhino thing by age six,,,,,,,,,maybe it was put there by good people just playing it safe in case i was an evil one,,,,,,,,,,now take itno consideration that i was framed and such,,,,,,,,,so for the last 16 years another group has used me in private and kinda leased me out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so i think that because i would not go private and mercinary someone in the know and marines kinda used me for the trojan warrior project then as a training tool crap and shit.

So those at the helm and can deactivate my collar,,,,,,,,,,ya that jet li movie.

now i know why some call me a dog.

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http://www.the-trades.com/jpappas/jet_li1[1].jpg

and without collar.

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A man treated like a dog and raised as a fighting machine his entire life, ends up in a coma and is taken in the care of good people, but his sinister owner is looking to retrieve his most prized possession: a non stop human weapon triggered by the collar leashed on his neck. Written by mystic80

This is the story of Danny, a slave who has lived his whole life without any sort of normal human education, with the mind and personality of a young child, with only one lesson learned: how to fight. Treated like a dog by his owner/boss, Bart which includes having to wear a collar. Danny has been raised to be a lethal fighting machine who fights to help Bart extort people and later ends up in illegal gladiator-style fight clubs, where he earns lots of money for Bart as the undisputed champion. After a car accident that lands Bart in a coma, however, Danny meets a kind elderly blind piano tuner, who uses music to teach Danny some things about the world and about being human... Written by austin4577@aol.com

In Glasgow, Danny is a young specialist in martial arts raised like a dog by his owner, the gangster and collector Bart. When Bart unleashes his collar, Danny behaves like a savage animal, hurting and killing people as commanded by Bart. After an accident, the wounded Danny is lodged by the blind tuner of piano Sam and his stepdaughter Victoria. They welcome him in the breast of their family, humanizing Danny, who feels attracted by music. But his past haunts him. Written by Claudio Carvalho, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

Danny is the slave of British crime boss Bart, Bart adopted Danny when he was a child and has turned him into a dog and makes him wear a collar around his neck. When Bart removes the collar from Danny's neck, Danny unleashes his lethal fighting skills and becomes a killing machine, when Bart orders Danny to attack the targets. After being wounded in a accident and Bart ends up in a coma, Danny is befriend by a American blind piano turner named Sam and his teenage stepdaughter Victoria and they welcome him into their family. Sam and Victoria decides to teach Danny about the world and being human. When Bart wakes up from his coma and he and his gangster want Danny back and forces him to take part in a illegal gladiatorial fight club to earn money, Danny decides he doesn't want to hurt people anymore and sets out to protect Sam and Victoria and fight for his freedom. Written by Daniel Williamson

my story is similar, and i have a few not on ops memories that are very similar to those scenes.


you see my early childhood when they did this was in a city, where kung fu and such were a very hot item, as well as special forces back from veitnam, not to mention my Jr high school had a very large cambodian refugee population, i was sent from the most intense school to one with only 30 students in it,,,,,there were gang leaders, drug dealer and prostitutes and the little me, a kid that would turn the othe cheek for awhile then kinda put a big bullie up against the wall:D


so what is that in my neck, simple its a collar,,,,,,in other words the yprobley dont want to chance my being free like every other person on the planet, and now i think i know why.
But now i also think that they have finnaly realy took a close look and realized that bad types like me have been fucking around so just like what kimball meens,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I Am The Bright Shinning Hound of God, in other words the big dog, one of those that is loyal to God alone and nothing else while still being human, hence the name Heavenly son of man, not to be confuse with the Son of God(son of man), im the warrior one, funny the name's are very similar,,,,,,,,,,,,,Jehoel Metatron Kemuel,,,,,,,,,,,,,not to sound so dramatic,,,,,,,,,,,,but it is either the real agenda in my case.

why i say this is i had dreams and memories before th hypnosis at he hearingn and speach clinic of scotish rite.
ya templar family:eek:

my dreams were that of being Rama in a past incarnation.

he is the oldest of warriors, the originator of martial arts also.
the other things, its like playing idiana jones on my own life sometimes.

so it is difficult to remove the emotion from what i right, it is difficult because i do consider it to also be probable programing, but that would require way to much beyond there capability's.

The lightnings strikes on june 20 2008, i posted it.

well i posted in aug, reason being is i was praying and coming out with this all.

in public style.

[kimball13]

Bro, everything you deciphered is false. I'm not judging you, I'm not putting you on trial but to the society around, you're pretty fucking insane. You made four posts rephrasing the same things you've been saying.

First of all, take a deep breath and read the words proceeding this sentence.

Meditation is the act of focusing on one thing, whatever that may be (your breath, heartbeat, etc.) and becoming aware and fully conscious of the moments that pass. This can be done sitting in a lotus position with your eyes closed or laying down in bed or any other position that isn't requiring you to physically challenge yourself. Meditation works by becoming conscious and by that, more control over your mind.

This whole Jesus thing is fun and all while you're 8, but seriously, grow up. Quit putting your own destiny in some made up, thousands of years dead zombie who is supposed to come back. He's not coming back, but you know who's already here? You. Learn to work on your outbursts of words. Quit ranting and rambling about things and get off the computer, go on a hike, a walk or something else and enjoy the sun. There is no reason for aliens to implant a chip on someone who just absorbs any idea that is given to him. Don't become psychotic because that's when it gets hard to come back. I've been there, lost all connections to reality and it sucked, but you have to, HAVE TO realize that Spirit is always, always with you. Even in the rough, even in the good, it's always with you. You just need to open your eyes and quit walking up hill with your head down.

Life is hard only if you make it hard. These perceptions you have of the powers of this world are illusions you made up from different movies, cartoons or comic books or just some other fantasy going on in your mind. We have creative minds to utilize for our benefit, not unknowingly stab ourselves with. Don't let your thoughts wander off so much, there is only what you see in this world, nothing more and nothing less.

Relax brother, you need to get a hold of yourself. I know I'm not you and don't know exactly what you feel and think you know, but I do know my ways around the extremities of our mind and you're pulling yourself down an endless pit.

I merely don't have the time to read every post. This is a huge website and I just joined, still trying to separate crazy nonsense talk from absolutely crazy nonsense talk. There are many, many different things to ponder over, but when the pondering is over, you have gained nothing. You haven't raised your awareness, you haven't become more in tune with the Spirit, you haven't done shit. Take it from a guy who's been in the deep -- control yourself, train yourself, utilize yourself. Without a clear mind you can't understand anything.

thank you and please understand this simple thing, dont ever try to ambush an apache, dude.

ok so you are into the mind alone, with illusions of spiritual awareness is what i could say to you if i were to throw back to you what you are attempting to do by discrediting my posts.

you have no way of know what it is i go through on a daily basis for longer than i care to answer at the moment,,,,,,,,dancing with so many agencys until the figure out what is realy afoot is very difficult.

especialy when those in the so called know localy dragg there feat,,,,,so why the dragging feet,,,,,,,answer that then tell me something.

So how deep have you been, realy, ever been underground in the bases, ever see times past, ever seen a picture of yourself taken in 1942.

actualy ive got a pretty good hold of myself,,,,,,,,,maybe im just putting to much info out for some prosesors to handle and thats good.

So realy i do enjoy debate, but not an arogance of knowing from only deep what.


oh and by the way, i dont think its aliens, so realy,,,,,,,,no that was a DR Lear and a few others.

and realy, the crazy stuff is speculations as well as visions from Sundance, Vision Quest's, Inipi, Etc,,,,,,,,,,,,,so your Jesus argument is mute,,,,,,,so realy.

Dude you suffer from optical rectal retinitis:D
contempt prior to investigation.

or is it you already had you script to play and went for the jugler.

and after the Heather material i found on the Project Camelot.

now isnt that funny.

the site with allot of dissinfo about my very lifes experiences, realy take a gander if you dare to go deep.


So why is it called proeject camelot.

may i ask you this,,,,,,,,,can you meditate and find the answer.

can you remote veiw, remote influence, crash computers, shut down power grids,,,,,,,,,,let me see what else.

and if you ask how can i do this, look below at the king arthur stuff.

now it seems youve put your agenda on trial.


oh meditation for me isnt focusing on one thing,,,,,ive never even heard of that being viable in meditations,,,,,,,,,the simple reason is youve already made up your mind what the answer is, and by doing that it is no longer meditation,,,,,,,,,it is called focusing an intent,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or remote influencing in a basic form,,,,,,,,,,,meditaion is listening to the universe , not voices and crap but that spirit you speak of,,,,,,,,or do you hear voices.


How do you know i just dont come to the answer quiker, would you know, at that moment, or would it take you time,,,,,,,,,and by the way,,,,,,,,its hard bine under the stress i am.

and well im not backing down,

last time i prayed and meditated as youve mentioned if im reading it correctly was June-20-2008 for an answer a dirrection, what to do about this King Arthur stuff, was it true im supposed to destroy Satan, and well look it up.

So imagine that being a constant thing in life, and then tell me were i stand in being deep

[fishonwheels]

Btw Kimball I wanted to mention.

That implant of yours, if it was a three dimensional object, judging by its position would most certainly protrude from your lower jaw......

Do you feel it?

It could be a thin film like object as well though.

Have you tried complaining of jaw pain to see if you could get another x-ray?

[the perfect one]

Kimball, I just wanted to tell you that I love the thread title. LOL

YEAH BABY ! IS THIS ENOUGH PROOF ????

WELL IS IT??? LOL

How much more proof do people need now a days? It seems to me ,that a person could list a mountain of proof and yet -it's just never enough.

[the perfect one]

Bro, everything you deciphered is false. I'm not judging you, I'm not putting you on trial but to the society around, you're pretty fucking insane. You made four posts rephrasing the same things you've been saying.

First of all, take a deep breath and read the words proceeding this sentence.

Meditation is the act of focusing on one thing, whatever that may be (your breath, heartbeat, etc.) and becoming aware and fully conscious of the moments that pass. This can be done sitting in a lotus position with your eyes closed or laying down in bed or any other position that isn't requiring you to physically challenge yourself. Meditation works by becoming conscious and by that, more control over your mind.

This whole Jesus thing is fun and all while you're 8, but seriously, grow up. Quit putting your own destiny in some made up, thousands of years dead zombie who is supposed to come back. He's not coming back, but you know who's already here? You. Learn to work on your outbursts of words. Quit ranting and rambling about things and get off the computer, go on a hike, a walk or something else and enjoy the sun. There is no reason for aliens to implant a chip on someone who just absorbs any idea that is given to him. Don't become psychotic because that's when it gets hard to come back. I've been there, lost all connections to reality and it sucked, but you have to, HAVE TO realize that Spirit is always, always with you. Even in the rough, even in the good, it's always with you. You just need to open your eyes and quit walking up hill with your head down.

Life is hard only if you make it hard. These perceptions you have of the powers of this world are illusions you made up from different movies, cartoons or comic books or just some other fantasy going on in your mind. We have creative minds to utilize for our benefit, not unknowingly stab ourselves with. Don't let your thoughts wander off so much, there is only what you see in this world, nothing more and nothing less.

Relax brother, you need to get a hold of yourself. I know I'm not you and don't know exactly what you feel and think you know, but I do know my ways around the extremities of our mind and you're pulling yourself down an endless pit.

I merely don't have the time to read every post. This is a huge website and I just joined, still trying to separate crazy nonsense talk from absolutely crazy nonsense talk. There are many, many different things to ponder over, but when the pondering is over, you have gained nothing. You haven't raised your awareness, you haven't become more in tune with the Spirit, you haven't done shit. Take it from a guy who's been in the deep -- control yourself, train yourself, utilize yourself. Without a clear mind you can't understand anything.

IF YOU had a chip in you ,would you be completely un-phased by it? You've been in the deep huh? Prove it. I dont believe you at all. You just want to make everyone think Kimballs crazy. I'd be a little shook up too, if I had a chip in me. So, tell me....what's your story? How have YOU been in the deep? Got a link to this thread of your DEEP experiences? Inquiring minds would like to see this . :rolleyes:

Stop playin the crazy card on him. He's been through a lot. If you truly had been in the deep-you would be more understanding.That's why I dont believe you.

[the perfect one]

It's too easy. I can see how these so called forum members, act like they care a tiny bit yet attack the op while cursing and calling them crazy.

It's like- Hey bro you are crazy but here is my advice. Relax and think more clearly-nut case.

See, it's nice candy coated words with stabs intertwined in it.

Pathetic and lame.

[kimball13]

Kimball, I just wanted to tell you that I love the thread title. LOL

YEAH BABY ! IS THIS ENOUGH PROOF ????

WELL IS IT??? LOL

How much more proof do people need now a days? It seems to me ,that a person could list a mountain of proof and yet -it's just never enough.

seems like most only want a story, not reality while it happens.

funny you wold think i would have a news interview.

considering a class action law suit by Vets was done around 2009, jan-6 i think,,,,,,,,down in supreme court in SFCA,,,,,,,,,,,weird huh,,,,,,,you would think i would be there prime evidence,,,,,,,,,,of covering up records and kidnapping special forces for there experiements.

im Macejunas, the one in BHD, i think there was one before me, im not sure,,,,but then i think the other one or ones didnt come until after 93.

not sure yet,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they got me after i went back out in civilian clothes unarmed,,,,,,,,,,so you see why they realy wanted to know why im the way i am.



So, there it is, a POW in USA and being a what,,,,,,,,,so this is how im treated maybe consider what is also being doen.


screw it,,,,,,,,,im going by that now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,fuck it,,,,,,,,,,,my real name well its not like they dont know or havent known the whole time,,,,,,,,,,ive tried.

I think what has ahppend,,,,,,,,,,,,any ways,,,,,,,,,,,,.

fuck it.

[kimball13]

:(




example, when one of my children was nearly murderd it created a ripple effect of my hearts pain, as well as battleing with the enemy,,,,,,,,its not easy to explane but when i have to remove my protections due to the abuse adn torture going on then i cannot and am not resposible for what happens.

So like i said, if i have to i will let it all fall,,,,,,,,,,,i can do nothing else,,,,,,its an Aikido thing.

now there is also my defence, its called Hungar shoulin 5 anmimall style.

ya i suppose a bit backwards but it is effective as well as non cruel as well as for an enemy to die means they are of a souless variety, and well i may go hunting at some point, in a very legal way as well as to protect the many i love, ya even though i haven expressed it so much i do have love,,,,,,,,,.

and well my behavior has realy been that of text book stable and emotionaly stable.

crazy as it sounds.


oh ya Dr Lear said it was alien,,,,,,,andhe could not remove it, then he and coast to coast as well as others kinda scatterd a bit like lights on cockroaches action.


oh ive had no neck surgeriery iether.

http://images2e.snapfish.com/232323232%7Ffp537%3C2%3Enu%3D32%3B2%3E4%3B6%3E%3B% 3B%3B%3E23%3A34%3B6%3C%3A%3C256ot1lsi

there is a better scan of it,,,,,,notice the coil that looks like an antenae.

the motor system, as i thought, probley to shock me and kinda nock me out.

im the real Rhino, not jose pedilia,,,,,,,,,,,his story ironicly came out after i mentioned the rhino exercise i was taught as a boy, some call it iron shirt technique.

so because of just the rhino thing by age six,,,,,,,,,maybe it was put there by good people just playing it safe in case i was an evil one,,,,,,,,,,now take itno consideration that i was framed and such,,,,,,,,,so for the last 16 years another group has used me in private and kinda leased me out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so i think that because i would not go private and mercinary someone in the know and marines kinda used me for the trojan warrior project then as a training tool crap and shit.

So those at the helm and can deactivate my collar,,,,,,,,,,ya that jet li movie.

now i know why some call me a dog.

http://www.londonist.com/attachments/sizemore/unleashed.jpg

http://www.the-trades.com/jpappas/jet_li1[1].jpg

and without collar.

http://moviesmedia.ign.com/movies/image/article/550/550606/unleashed-20040924020131149_640w.jpg

http://images.rottentomatoes.com/images/movie/gallery/1145385/photo_12_hires.jpg
Plot Summary for
Danny the Dog (2005) More at IMDbPro »
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A man treated like a dog and raised as a fighting machine his entire life, ends up in a coma and is taken in the care of good people, but his sinister owner is looking to retrieve his most prized possession: a non stop human weapon triggered by the collar leashed on his neck. Written by mystic80

This is the story of Danny, a slave who has lived his whole life without any sort of normal human education, with the mind and personality of a young child, with only one lesson learned: how to fight. Treated like a dog by his owner/boss, Bart which includes having to wear a collar. Danny has been raised to be a lethal fighting machine who fights to help Bart extort people and later ends up in illegal gladiator-style fight clubs, where he earns lots of money for Bart as the undisputed champion. After a car accident that lands Bart in a coma, however, Danny meets a kind elderly blind piano tuner, who uses music to teach Danny some things about the world and about being human... Written by austin4577@aol.com

In Glasgow, Danny is a young specialist in martial arts raised like a dog by his owner, the gangster and collector Bart. When Bart unleashes his collar, Danny behaves like a savage animal, hurting and killing people as commanded by Bart. After an accident, the wounded Danny is lodged by the blind tuner of piano Sam and his stepdaughter Victoria. They welcome him in the breast of their family, humanizing Danny, who feels attracted by music. But his past haunts him. Written by Claudio Carvalho, Rio de Janeiro, Brazil

Danny is the slave of British crime boss Bart, Bart adopted Danny when he was a child and has turned him into a dog and makes him wear a collar around his neck. When Bart removes the collar from Danny's neck, Danny unleashes his lethal fighting skills and becomes a killing machine, when Bart orders Danny to attack the targets. After being wounded in a accident and Bart ends up in a coma, Danny is befriend by a American blind piano turner named Sam and his teenage stepdaughter Victoria and they welcome him into their family. Sam and Victoria decides to teach Danny about the world and being human. When Bart wakes up from his coma and he and his gangster want Danny back and forces him to take part in a illegal gladiatorial fight club to earn money, Danny decides he doesn't want to hurt people anymore and sets out to protect Sam and Victoria and fight for his freedom. Written by Daniel Williamson

my story is similar, and i have a few not on ops memories that are very similar to those scenes.


you see my early childhood when they did this was in a city, where kung fu and such were a very hot item, as well as special forces back from veitnam, not to mention my Jr high school had a very large cambodian refugee population, i was sent from the most intense school to one with only 30 students in it,,,,,there were gang leaders, drug dealer and prostitutes and the little me, a kid that would turn the othe cheek for awhile then kinda put a big bullie up against the wall:D


so what is that in my neck, simple its a collar,,,,,,in other words the yprobley dont want to chance my being free like every other person on the planet, and now i think i know why.
But now i also think that they have finnaly realy took a close look and realized that bad types like me have been fucking around so just like what kimball meens,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I Am The Bright Shinning Hound of God, in other words the big dog, one of those that is loyal to God alone and nothing else while still being human, hence the name Heavenly son of man, not to be confuse with the Son of God(son of man), im the warrior one, funny the name's are very similar,,,,,,,,,,,,,Jehoel Metatron Kemuel,,,,,,,,,,,,,not to sound so dramatic,,,,,,,,,,,,but it is either the real agenda in my case.

why i say this is i had dreams and memories before th hypnosis at he hearingn and speach clinic of scotish rite.
ya templar family:eek:

my dreams were that of being Rama in a past incarnation.

he is the oldest of warriors, the originator of martial arts also.
the other things, its like playing idiana jones on my own life sometimes.

so it is difficult to remove the emotion from what i right, it is difficult because i do consider it to also be probable programing, but that would require way to much beyond there capability's.

The lightnings strikes on june 20 2008, i posted it.

well i posted in aug, reason being is i was praying and coming out with this all.

in public style.

[kimball13]

what would jesus realy do.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=48&pictureid=5417

:D



here is what i found today, sometime ago within the past couple of years the same man that said there were 1,860 in the know and doing this crap,,,,,,,,also told me Heather was murderd, i puked,,,,,,for me to puke shows how much i feel for her,,,,,,,,,and this is either another cruel attempt to fuck my head up or she lives.

i listend to the first 44 mins so far,,,,,in the first 6-6;40 he says some things about they have her in hidding and keeping her sick,,,,,,,,as well as how him and wife are self centerd,,,,,,,,so,,,,,,,,,,,is it she,,,,,,,or another ruse,,,,,,,,,,do they have what she may have had,,,,,,,those disks and such,,,,,,,,,,or what,,,,,,,,,,,,,anyways,

i will get back to the interview at some point,.

so, you know she was m first love, ive loved her myentire life, she was my best freind:( im talking you know like 5 years old,,,,,,,,,were we both separated because of these programs and projects,,,,,,,,,,,:mad:


She was on the run and Ben Murphy and his wife took her in... And then after a short time she left Florida and went for a time, if Ben's testimony is accurate to the New York area... And after that to perhaps Europe, then disappeared. To this day, beyond the attached 17 page pdf file we have received none of the volumes of material that she supposedly stole from the underground base where she worked. The story goes that she was helped to escape, by a "unit" and a reptilian.

...Everything about the Heather Material is outlandish and stretches the bounds of even the most prolific imagination into the science fiction genre. I guess that is why its attraction is so pervasive. That and the fact that very credible whistleblowers have come forward talking about very similar things... just never in this detail and with this human pathos.. Heather writes...

"I also saw firsthand the psychological issues the units dealt with, when they were activated they would
often just cry, or walk in circles and rock back and forth, the brain could not handle the electrical
outputs of the various devices and implants and it also messed with motor skills of the unit. On paper
these guys were the fastest and strongest humans we have, in theory they were emotional wrecks with
no idea who they were or what they were. This was the start of my turn against the system as they were
all in the ages of 17 and 18 years old, they were just babies, young men that were tortured."

http://www.projectcamelotproductions.com/interviews/heather_material/heather_material.html


well those 1,860 individuals know exatly what i am and capable of, as well as,,,,

here is the catch 22 for me personaly,,,,,,,,,,with what i know and experienced,,,,,,,,,,,,,the spiritual stuff could be some crap or the crap could be trying to create doubt about myself as in confidence and such


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=7081


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=7084


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a bit similar, something they want to figure out how to do,,,,,,,,,,that wisping of clouds in men who stare at goats, well imagine a boy in that group and because of other factors he is a bit of a natural.

the purpose of the implant im not sure.

but it may be some sort of inhibitor.

can you blame them if i can do such a thing,,,,,,,,,,,or i didnt use to, but now i blame at least 1,860 of them and well its been awhile, exuces have been ran out along time ago,,,,,,,,,the dragging feet might get them cut off.

[kimball13]

IF YOU had a chip in you ,would you be completely un-phased by it? You've been in the deep huh? Prove it. I dont believe you at all. You just want to make everyone think Kimballs crazy. I'd be a little shook up too, if I had a chip in me. So, tell me....what's your story? How have YOU been in the deep? Got a link to this thread of your DEEP experiences? Inquiring minds would like to see this . :rolleyes:

Stop playin the crazy card on him. He's been through a lot. If you truly had been in the deep-you would be more understanding.That's why I dont believe you.

thank you from the bottom of my heart.

you would think i wouldnt nead help but i do.

gues teh five for fighting song is true.

even superman has the right to bleed:(

[the perfect one]

No prob Kimball-heres a song to the cointelpro of this website-

Red Rider - Lunatic Fringe - YouTube

[kimball13]

the dow is dropping again.

gues i have more freinds than they counted on:Di do pay attention but my heart is heavy, i need a fucking vacation.

[kimball13]

I can�t stand to fly
I�m not that naive
I�m just out to find
The better part of me

I�m more than a bird...i�m more than a plane
More than some pretty face beside a train
It�s not easy to be me

Wish that I could cry
Fall upon my knees
Find a way to lie
About a home I�ll never see

It may sound absurd...but don�t be naive
Even heroes have the right to bleed
I may be disturbed...but won�t you concede
Even heroes have the right to dream
It�s not easy to be me

Up, up and away...away from me
It�s all right...you can all sleep sound tonight
I�m not crazy...or anything...

I can�t stand to fly
I�m not that naive
Men weren�t meant to ride
With clouds between their knees

I�m only a man in a silly red sheet
Digging for kryptonite on this one way street
Only a man in a funny red sheet
Looking for special things inside of me
Inside of me
Inside me
Yeah, inside me
Inside of me

I�m only a man
In a funny red sheet
I�m only a man
Looking for a dream

I�m only a man
In a funny red sheet
And it�s not easy, hmmm, hmmm, hmmm...

Its not easy to be me

[kimball13]

pink floyd the wall, taught me allot aobut the crap the do to people:D



Stock markets in europe and Usa dropping,,,,,,,,,,,:Dlike i said corporations, have made me an enemy not by my choice, but there actions.

[kimball13]

but then it could also be this.


http://www.cephas-library.com/nwo_big_brother_or_safety_first.html
US soldiers were also thought of as a potential client
in what analysts see as a $70 billion market.
Digital Angel we can tell if the child is still alive while the parents are organising the ransom," said Jackson. "In certain requests people said they wanted this implanted and others said it's not a good idea," he added

[kimball13]

notice the time line.

i just came across this,,,,,,,,in the threads ive just put what ive experienced and can remember, i tried to stay away form others claims and research and only when i can Proove it do i even open my mouth,,,,,,,,well maybe not,,,,,,,,,but just about all the time,,,,,,,,i dont know still waiting to be wrong on certain things.

http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/cooper/operation_majority.htm
"""""This file contain the absolute true information regarding the alien
presence on earth and the US Governments involvement with the aliens.
This file contains only the information as I saw it and only my
information. It does not contain any information from any other source.
It was necessary for me to issue the information previous to this
release in a manner which would deceive the Government until someone
was able to independently confirm my identity, my employment, my
service record, my intelligence background, the identity of the person
to which I gave the information to in 1972, his acknowledgment of the
information and when it was given to him, that the information is
correct, that I have not seen him since 1974, and that I have not
communicated with him in any form since 1976. This was necessary
because this file is my death warrant if MJ-12 continues to operate in
a manner consistent with its history.

All in the last paragraph has been independently verified by 2
different people who have no connection with each other. I will only
list one for obvious reasons.

Tony Pelham, Journalist
Las Vegas Bullet, (Newspap
er) 300 West Boston
Las Vegas, Nevada 89102""""""""


72, colostomy reversal as baby, anal plasty pullthough operation done,,,,,making an asshole basicly,,,,,,,,,,oh and parents break up,,,,,,,,,dad disapears and is not heard from for 6 years by anyone,.

around 74 i accidentaly drank hydrocloric acid at age 3 1/2.

76 scotish rite hearing and speach clinic, tonsil, tubes in ears, hypnotheripie, room with semi circle of beds, a man asking if i want to be a super soldier,,,,,,,and him saying i will be like them but differnt.

maybe it was my dreams of being Rama is why i was chosen to do this task, could be that simple, the dreams of a small boy to solve a problem,,,,,,,,,,dam thats a long shot or some seriouse faith in a little boy.

"MJ-12" is the name of the secret control group. President Dwight D.
Eisenhower commissioned a secret society known as THE JASON SOCIETY
(JASON SCHOLARS) to sift through all the facts, evidence, technology,
lies and deception and find the truth of the alien question. The
society was made up of 32 of the most prominent men in the country in
1972 and the top 12 members were designated MJ-12. MJ-12 has total
control of everything. They are designated by the code J-1, J-2, J-3,
etc. all the way through the members of the JASON SOCIETY. The director
of the CIA was appointed J-1 and is the Director of MJ-12. MJ-12 is
responsible only to the President. :eek:


it wasnt cia director;)

is this why the cops search my vehicle once a month,,,,,,,it this why they thought i was some big time meth dealer or such.


MJ-12 runs most of the world's illegal drug trade. This was done to
hide funding and thus keep the secret from the Congress and the people
of the United States. It was justified in that it would identify and
eliminate the weak elements of our society. The cost of funding the
alien connected projects is higher than anything you can imagine. MJ-12
assassinated President Kennedy when he informed them that he was going
to tell the public all the facts of the alien presence. He was killed
by the Secret Service agent driving his car and it is plainly visible
in the film held from public view. A secret meeting place was
constructed for MJ-12 in MARYLAND and it is described as being
accessible only by air. It contains full living, recreational and other
facilities for MJ-12 and the JASON SOCIETY. It is code-named "THE
COUNTRY CLUB". Only those persons with a TOP SECRET/MAJIC security
clearance are allowed to go there. """"""""""


they must have been going by code words?????????????

now here it gets strange weird hang with me.


Da-Mage,,,,,,,,,,,,as in The Mage,,,,,,,,,get it said in a kinda humorouse way:confused:

kimball13,,,,,,,,,,,my life is inundated with this crap,,,,,,,,,and Dan Burisch's story about Michael dying around when 73 or so,,,,,,,,im not dead.


"MAJI" is the MAJORITY AGENCY FOR JOINT INTELLIGENCE. All information,
disinformation, and intelligence is gathered and evaluated by this
agency . This agency is responsible for all disinformation and operates
in conjunction with the CIA, NSA, and the Defense Intelligence Agency.
This is a very powerful organization and all alien projects are under
its control. MAJI is responsible only to MJ-12.


my Initials are JMK,,,,,,,11-MJ,,,,,,,,,,,or MJ-2,,,,,,,,,,,now i suppose i get ahead of myself has been a real issue,,,,,,,,,and not until someone else not having to play cat andmouse most of there life,,,,,,,,,,and doing it by instinct half the time buying time until it is just right and it can be done quikly instead of just a cat and mouse game.

kinda scarry when i accept what is comming to the surface.

.

K13, or MJ-1 next gen...

gues im reaching in the kimball13 part a bit but no concern, its for me to read and understand.

im sure since allot of this info is out and how sneaky and such MJ types can be.




Damage,,,,,,,,,,,,Delta Alpha(1)MAJORITY AGENCY Group elite

Damage.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=3672

and here is the 13 tie in,,,,,,,,,,,,as well as King Arthur;)


[NOTE: It is known that a special experimental project was launched
some years ago under the auspices of the US Navy to investigate a
special low frequency, pulsed sound and radio wave system. The antennae
for such a system consisted of buried cables that extended radially for
several hundred miles in all directions from the generator site. The
listed purpose of these experiments was to develop a system of
communications that could be used with our submarines world-wide that
could neither be detected by anyone not having this specific equipment
nor jammed by any conventional source known to current technology. This
may or may not have been a "cover story". It is equally interesting to
note that while this "national secret" was being printed in certain
"popular" monthly mechanical and science magazines, articles appeared
in several of the more serious scientific journals concerning
experiments with a sound-wave generating weapon that operates in the 4
to 13 Hertz range that could be fatal to "enemy troops"...perhaps
reducing them, quite literally, to a mass of quivering jelly. =CSW.]


"EXCALIBUR" is a weapon to destroy the alien underground bases. It is
to be a missile capable of penetrating 1000 meters of Tufa or
hard-packed soil such as that found in New Mexico with no operational
damage. Missile apogee not to exceed 30,000 feet AGL and impact must
not deviate in excess of 50 meters from designated target. The device
will carry a 1 megaton nuclear warhead.""""""""""""



So you see operational security,,,,,,,,,,and maybe it was to be this way,,,,,,,,maybe i was so secret and had so many fail safes in place that the only one that could provide proof and properly disclose it without bias.

maybe i said to much,,,,,,,,,,,but given the circumstances,,,,,,,,,,,,,take into consideration a group trying to do a job they are not qualified for.
and still they use these very failsafes in place to stall.

i dont know how or why they have been able to do this,,,,,,,,,,,but that little thing in my neck tells the story.

MJ--------------------------------------------------------------------can also stand for a few other things.

[kimball13]

http://www.rumormillnews.com/cgi-bin/archive.cgi?read=150577


In an era when the officers in charge of the major military units were still part of the generation that looked on young women - potential mothers - as a treasure to be protected, to learn that thousands of young females were being abducted, and even created (cloned, etc.) for use as sex slaves by aliens was simply too much for such men to allow to continue.

The turning point came when National Security Adviser Dr. Zbigniew Brzezinski met with President Jimmy Carter in the White House on June 14, 1977, with a number of other "intelligence operatives and leaders", to bring the President up to speed on a number of top secret programs, including "Project Aquarius", and the work being done at Dulce, Area 51, and other secret bases. Brzezinski, a member of the power elite that backed the "Grey" cause, never guessed that the President would be so shocked that he would soon turn to trusted military advisors in the military intelligence community for options of how to stop what had been going on.

[kimball13]

It's another night in hell
Another child won't live to tell
Can you imagine what it's like to starve to death

And as we sit free and well
Another soldier has to yell
Tell my wife and children I love them in his last breath

C'mon now amen, amen, amen

Habitual offenders, scumbag lawyers with agendas
I'll tell you sometimes people I don't know what's worse
Natural disasters or these wolves in sheep clothes pastors
Now God damn it I'm scared to send my children to church
And how can we seek salvation when our nations race relations
Got me feeling guilty of being white
But faith in human nature, our creator and our savior, I'm no saint
But I believe in what is right

C'mon now amen, amen
I said amen, amen

Stop pointing fingers and take some blame,
Pull your future away from the flame
Open up your mind and start to live
Stop short changing your neighbors
Living off hand outs and favors, and maybe
Give a little bit more than you got to give

Simplify, testify, identify, rectify
And if I get high stop being so uptight
It's only human nature and I am not a stranger
So baby won't you stay with me tonight

When a calls away
to break the sound
I'm faden down, I need someone
Oh to be someone
They just sinken down, and holden back
I hold the dawn and run
They don't save a child
Oh, to save a child

It's a matter of salvation from them patience up above,
So don't give up so damn easy on the one you love, one you love
Somewhere you got a brother, sister, friend, grandmother, niece or nephew
Just dying to be with you
You know there's someone out there who unconditionally, religiously, loves you
So just hold on 'cause you know it's true
And if you can take the pain
And you can withstand anything, and one day
Stand hand in hand with the truth

I said amen, I said amen
I said amen, I said amen,

Amen

More lyrics: http://www.lyricsmode.com/lyrics/k/kid_rock/#share

[kimball13]

maybe i shouldve put my posts up with lyrics.

songs ya i suppose im a bit sentimental, i just dont show it much, you know gotta keep the ego at bay.

point is when your always saying thats my song, dont forget others out there have heard that same song from above.

good iim greatfull,,,,,,,,,,,my verbage is improveing,,,,,,,,,,thta trip to the city mustve helped,,,,,,,you know around where it all started,,,,,,,,,tenderloin, persidio, sunset, 19th avenue,,,,,,and that little bar with the sweet sound of the blues, you see i was a boy back then in the 70's, realy.
even pictures of me at the sign pole, ,the adults looked like they were kinda on my shoulders climbing the pole,,,,,,,,,funny now i think of it,,,,,,,,a little boy under 5,,,,,,how poetic and telling that picture is,,,,,,,,,oh i dont have it,,,,,,,,,,the woman that raised me does.

back then i guese it wasnt nothing for a chld to be at the bar from open to close:eek:now what was happening in that city in the 70's,,,,,crazy thing is owners and others probley had no clue,,,,,,,,.


so,,,,,,,maybe there is something to the Jehoel thing,,,,,,,chief of the heavelny choir,,,,,,,chief of the angels of fire,,,,,,,,,,what else,,,,,,,,,,,its all kinda crazy,,,,,,,,,,,,but strangley true,,,,,,,,,,in my life,,,,,,,,,,example,,fire cheif of the Sioux is an elder position, hard to explane it but i have kinda veto power even above elders and cheifs,,,,might explane why they are a bit scared of me.

funny no stone unturned,,,,,,,well to those familar with the Inipi cerimony's might understand:D


anways here are the lyirics, i will go find that 19 thingy.



"Roll On"

Mmmm
I love it when you play it like that
Come on... Play

Sittin' here alone I'm lookin' back on where I've roamed
And laughing how I swore I'd win and not get burned
Left my family
Left my home
I worked my fingers to the bone
And there was not a stone I did not leave unturned
And I was havin' a good time

Roll on Roll on Roller Coaster
We're one day older and one step closer
Roll on there's mountains to climb
Roll on we're on borrowed time
Roll on Roller coaster
Roll on tonight
Roll on tonight yeah

Money and success
I don't complain about the stress
I wanted this and now it's here
So I don't bitch
And I swear that time's a trick
It disappears in oh so quick
Man I was just sixteen
And now I'm starin' at thirty-six
But I'm still havin' a good time

Roll on Roll on Roller Coaster
We're one day older and one step closer
Roll on there's mountains to climb
Roll on we're on borrowed time
Roll on Roller coaster
Roll on tonight
Roll on tonight

And I know it's hard to see with the sun in your eyes
But one day you're gonna say I saw the light

And now headin' for the hill
And I just cannot wait until
My children grow up to have children of their own
And I'll be telling them about
The times I turned the party out
And how I stood against an army all alone
Drinkin' wine and stayin' high
And realized it couldn't last
And how I turned myself around
And went down another path
And the signs we must observe
When life's changes do occur
But most of all I'll tell them
Just how proud I am of them
And always have a good time
It's all love and good times
Let's all have a good time Yeah

Roll on Roll on Roller Coaster
We're one day older and one step closer
Roll on there's mountains to climb
Roll on we're on borrowed time
Roll on Roller coaster
Roll on tonight
Roll on tonight

[aeroshaft]

IF YOU had a chip in you ,would you be completely un-phased by it? You've been in the deep huh? Prove it. I dont believe you at all. You just want to make everyone think Kimballs crazy. I'd be a little shook up too, if I had a chip in me. So, tell me....what's your story? How have YOU been in the deep? Got a link to this thread of your DEEP experiences? Inquiring minds would like to see this . :rolleyes:

Stop playin the crazy card on him. He's been through a lot. If you truly had been in the deep-you would be more understanding.That's why I dont believe you.

I'm pretty sure he's trolling and what the hell? You all have this fantasy in your head like the world revolves around each of you. You being the something that the world needs, him being some sort of breed of some "intellectual" being and using movies and stuff to try and put an image in my head. He's watched too many fictional movies and you've bought everything he says. No doctor would leave an unknown piece of object in there. If it's a film, it wouldn't look like that, it would distort the x-ray. If you have no incision on the area you feel it, you could be like the few people this guy took the implant out on:
Dr. Leir - Alien Implants Tested - YouTube

The thing is, I never disproved you or said you're crazy; rather you're acting insane by posting 2-5 times each time you post, spazzing out, etc..

I already said I don't know and I don't know how you feel man. What I do know is this universal law you're trying to protrude to apply to you and revolve around you isn't necessarily true unless you believe it to be. Stay chill my friend. You're a warrior, keep fighting the enemy. But sometimes, the so called enemy, uses your own mind against you and that is your strongest enemy, yourself. Fix that man, if you think you have an implant go to the media, use medical forms and documents to back up your letter and send it to the editor of a news company.

[choosewisely]

Kimball.. You need to seriously have a look at yourself in the mirror. stand there for a minute if you can and deeply look at yourself. Do you want to live the rest of your life like that? I sure wouldn't..

[kimball13]

I'm pretty sure he's trolling and what the hell? You all have this fantasy in your head like the world revolves around each of you. You being the something that the world needs, him being some sort of breed of some "intellectual" being and using movies and stuff to try and put an image in my head. He's watched too many fictional movies and you've bought everything he says. No doctor would leave an unknown piece of object in there. If it's a film, it wouldn't look like that, it would distort the x-ray. If you have no incision on the area you feel it, you could be like the few people this guy took the implant out on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA9H2xVe5rQ

The thing is, I never disproved you or said you're crazy; rather you're acting insane by posting 2-5 times each time you post, spazzing out, etc..

I already said I don't know and I don't know how you feel man. What I do know is this universal law you're trying to protrude to apply to you and revolve around you isn't necessarily true unless you believe it to be. Stay chill my friend. You're a warrior, keep fighting the enemy. But sometimes, the so called enemy, uses your own mind against you and that is your strongest enemy, yourself. Fix that man, if you think you have an implant go to the media, use medical forms and documents to back up your letter and send it to the editor of a news company.



funny, real funny,,,,,,,,,,tried that,,,,,,,,and well you do sound like some spec types or spy types ive trusted in the past to handle this do to the conditions ive had to heal in.

so realy, play matrix,,,,dont end up like kimball somewhere in hell,,,,,,,realy, i havvvvve heard every excuse.

ever hear of method acting, well maybe some of us can create a sane insanity to catch the sociopathic ones;)

[kimball13]

Kimball.. You need to seriously have a look at yourself in the mirror. stand there for a minute if you can and deeply look at yourself. Do you want to live the rest of your life like that? I sure wouldn't..

i have.

strange when did you join the form.

ya ok, i look like both Marcinko and Bechwith so what's your point.

you sound like they did back in the early 90's,,,,,,,,,you want a white picket fence and family well let us do what we want.

now ask yourself what is it they wanted, then look around.

[kimball13]

I'm pretty sure he's trolling and what the hell? You all have this fantasy in your head like the world revolves around each of you. You being the something that the world needs, him being some sort of breed of some "intellectual" being and using movies and stuff to try and put an image in my head. He's watched too many fictional movies and you've bought everything he says. No doctor would leave an unknown piece of object in there. If it's a film, it wouldn't look like that, it would distort the x-ray. If you have no incision on the area you feel it, you could be like the few people this guy took the implant out on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA9H2xVe5rQ

The thing is, I never disproved you or said you're crazy; rather you're acting insane by posting 2-5 times each time you post, spazzing out, etc..

I already said I don't know and I don't know how you feel man. What I do know is this universal law you're trying to protrude to apply to you and revolve around you isn't necessarily true unless you believe it to be. Stay chill my friend. You're a warrior, keep fighting the enemy. But sometimes, the so called enemy, uses your own mind against you and that is your strongest enemy, yourself. Fix that man, if you think you have an implant go to the media, use medical forms and documents to back up your letter and send it to the editor of a news company.



funny that is what ive done,,,,,i have put into action exatly what you mention.

heck even called the secret service back around 93-94.


hay hear is a thought seeing as im a bit emotional from dealing with this for over 20 years,,,,,,,,,,how bout someone advocate for me,,,,,,,,,,hay maybe get in touch with you local media and such, tell my crazy story.

oh, the spiritual stuff, well i made no claims, ive only taken a close look at the things others have said and mentioned to better understand where they were coming from.

ive stated most of the evidence ive been able to accumulate.

some of which was broadcaste.
Ward chruchill for one.

when i say ive sundance, im seriose, when i say i spent time working the fire im telling the truth.

when i say i learned to read from the bible im telling the truth.

now when i say men like that depicted in Men who stare at goats again im telling the truth.

for me to heal and come out of the state ive been put in requires de-stressing.

ive been put in an evioroment that does not allow that under the pretenses i have an anger problem.

ive written it all out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,even under durres,,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe i shouldnt have said all.

if i kept it scientific i would only reach that group and so on,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so instead i have did my best to speak of this issue on all levels as ive been able to percieve it.


in the past when i havent given up just as ive done in this situation what ive recieved is real and true,,,,,,,,,,,,,so maybe its time to humble yourselves and realize many of you have helped perps and not the vics,,,,,,,,,,how do i know well that is my fucking job.

and for who is that job for,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well i think i said that one to,,,,,,,,,,,.


Call it a kinda CSI, for %@%,,,,,,,,,,ya that will work,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and who do the recon for:eek:has something to do with HRT and CT,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so my job is a doozy, not of my choosing but since im doing it what the hell.

oh just look at the key board for teh%@% and think of what Fast Factual and Faithfull might entail,,,,,,,,,,,,call it raw intel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,what is raw intel,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well you have been reading it.


i think sometimes we are called NOCS,,,,,,,,,,,now ask yourself,,,,,,,,,,,,what would i be doing with redcell and delta,,,,,,,,,,,,,,fuckit i said it............

why do i have memories and such,,,,,,,,,,,,,but i cant even think about acronyms, or how to use a gun,,,,,,,and a knife in my pocket makes me feel kinda restrained rather than safe.
weird huh,,,,,,,,,,,kinda a safty thing i suppose, no killing unless orderd to and it has to be for good reasons,,,,,,,,,after all i will know,.

but then thats what it takes to be a noc of my type,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,kill only as a finall resort no matter what, no matter what target presents itself you there to figure out and find the source.

So,,,,,,,me going to the media, ya right.

i had to do this in a way, a public way, a way to protect those who were sold out long ago that have been being set up or picked off,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya imagine if a criminal group or terrorist group blackmailed lets say a seal team six member,,,,,,,,,,,just for example.

or like with me they keep trying to say dont you want a better life just give up give in put blinders on,,,,,,,,,,,and all i can think is how can ir raise a family with all ther little desires and crap when i know the neighbors are being torutured,,,,,,,,,,,,,no i cannot and until this crap is rooted out of our armed services and other agency's i cannot give up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,no matter what,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the reason why,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well what would a father do if he wanted his kids to have those good coforts without having to sell others into slavery,,,,,,,,,,,,,yep,,,,,,,,,,,,the human slave trade is allot more complicated than anyone realizes,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya get a program,,,,,,,,,,,people are like atm's crap.

[kimball13]

oh i spoke to Dr Lear,,,,,,,,,,,,,sent him copys of the older mri's,,,,,,,,,then was in a game of phone tag because he then got ill.


i finnaly spoke to his assistant when he veiwed them,,,,,,,,,,,,,he said it could not be taken out.


my point is,,,,,,,,,,,that alien implant crap was part of disinfo to try to get my kind into a slavery type situation.

So realy, imagine if i ended up going for a quike fix, ive been aproached and they began there little MK-ultra crap and when i would finnaly say hay i dont konw if you know what your doing but stop it.

and well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,please.

the resulst of those that do not well mother nature can be a bitch.

by the way ive sought assistance , from a few so called groups that assist in such things, and when they see the real the get freaked out:eek:

[kimball13]

for a moment place yourself in my shoes.
just as ive stated.

now think of a soldier on the battle feild having to be his own corman.
as well as hold of an army.

his support crew has been cut off,,,,,,,his comunications intercepted changed and resent.

then consider this.

to many of you watch to many movies and believe that is how it is in real life.

take bourne identity for example, or The REcruit.

what about Eagle Eye, and several other movies.

good moivies i enjoy them also,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but certain things in them stick out.

but the action, gagets and such, well you think bourne would have such a clear path to gain a life back.

ya sure imagine how far i owuld get in actions such as his.
no what happens is i would end up in the middle east in some terrorist training camp if i just went along with some people that offerd to help,,,,,,,thing is im not talking about middle easterners,,,,,,,,,,,,im talking right here,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and there are others like me that were duped and missused by someone in the know,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so how do you solve such an issue.

so i had to start writting it all down on the internet and create the envioroment in such a way to prove it.

now i spend my day wondering when a humvee is going to role up or a undercover car with guys in suits.

why well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,simple,,,,,,,,,,,,not every one has hardware in them.

so that tells me something went very wrong,,,,,,,,,,,,,and back in 93 i was supposed to be sent to FBNC not FBNCA,,,,,,,,,,,,but then i also know how coverups through clerical errors keep some in the loop,,,,,,,,,,a loop im cutting,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya cut the gordeians knot for thos of college edjucation,,,,,,,,,funny when i heard that story, i kinda laughed because that is what i first thought.


so why, did i say FBNC, well not northern california.


and if im crazy then ohwell its for a reason.

but then i suppose im not a womanizer or cheating on my wife,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or worse,,,,,,,,,so i dont have vices that can be used as a fulcrum to sway my heart.
simple isnt it, gues you could say im a bit unbiased.

[the perfect one]

I'm pretty sure he's trolling and what the hell? You all have this fantasy in your head like the world revolves around each of you. You being the something that the world needs, him being some sort of breed of some "intellectual" being and using movies and stuff to try and put an image in my head. He's watched too many fictional movies and you've bought everything he says. No doctor would leave an unknown piece of object in there. If it's a film, it wouldn't look like that, it would distort the x-ray. If you have no incision on the area you feel it, you could be like the few people this guy took the implant out on:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pA9H2xVe5rQ

The thing is, I never disproved you or said you're crazy; rather you're acting insane by posting 2-5 times each time you post, spazzing out, etc..

I already said I don't know and I don't know how you feel man. What I do know is this universal law you're trying to protrude to apply to you and revolve around you isn't necessarily true unless you believe it to be. Stay chill my friend. You're a warrior, keep fighting the enemy. But sometimes, the so called enemy, uses your own mind against you and that is your strongest enemy, yourself. Fix that man, if you think you have an implant go to the media, use medical forms and documents to back up your letter and send it to the editor of a news company.


Are you talking to me or him? I cant make out what the heck your saying.You quoted me but then talk to him-I think. LOL

[the perfect one]

Ya know I would still love to see this deep story of yours. So if ya wouldnt mind-cough it up.

[kimball13]

this was going to go on another thread but then i thought why not here.
oh i pasted the emotions over the phone stuff from another thread.





mind control electronic harrasmentemotions over the phone, predicts behavior
2010 05 07

By Eric Bland | DiscoveryNews.com
The innovative program can not only predict a caller’s emotional state, but may also diagnose a range of medical conditions.

Less than two minutes into a cell phone conversation, a new computer program can predict a broken heart -- literally and figuratively.

An Israeli company called eXaudios has developed a computer program, known as Magnify, that decodes the human voice to identify a person’s emotional state.

Some companies in the United States already use the system in their call centers. eXaudios is even testing the software’s use in diagnosing medical conditions like autism, schizophrenia, heart disease and even prostate cancer.

"When agents talk with customers over the phone, they usually focus on content and not intonation, unless the customer is screaming," said Yoram Levanon, President and CEO of eXaudios, which recently won a $1 million prize at the Demo 2010 conference. "If a customer is screaming, you don’t need the software. But if we can identify the other emotions of a customer, we can save customers and companies money."

A number of companies sell software that analyzes conversations between a customer service agent and a customer after the conversation is over. Magnify monitors a phone call in real time. The program then lists the caller’s emotions on screen.

When Discovery News’ technology correspondent’s voice was decoded using the Magnify software, the output read like a psychologist’s notebook: "Struggling to contain an inner excitement. Keeping emotions and/or creativity in check. Warm and fuzzy."

In a call center, the Magnify system then suggests various tactics to a customer service representative, depending on the needs of the company.

If a person is interested in a company’s product or service, the software suggests various ways a customer service agent can pitch it. Magnify can also tell if a person is unlikely to buy and suggest the agent end the conversation before angering the client. The program can even predict when a customer will start yelling up to one minute before it happens, said Magnify’s SVP of Business Operations, Alon Klomek.

It’s taken eXaudios well over a decade to develop Magnify, said Levanon. Magnify works by teasing apart a person voice, separating the frequencies and measuring various qualities of those wavelengths, such as their intonation and intensity.

Magnify is not 100 percent accurate, however. Between 17 percent and 24 percent of the time Magnify fails to identify a caller’s correct emotions.

"We tried to find physical rules that explained why we were wrong," said Levanon. "What we found was that there was a medical reason we were wrong."

Certain diseases have an unmistakable impact on a person’s speech. Many autistic patients require speech therapy to communicate effectively. Nearly 90 percent of Parkinson’s disease patients eventually develop some form of soft, mumbled speech.

Yoram Bonneh, an autism researcher at the Weizman Institute of Science in Israel, used the Magnify software in his work with autistic five-year-old children. Out of 80 children -- 40 previously diagnosed with autism and 40 non-autistic children -- Magnify successfully identified 85 percent of the autistic kids.

These were children with very mild forms of autism, said Bonneh. "They can speak, and when you listen to them you cannot tell a difference (between the autistic and non-autistic children)," said Bonneh. "But when you analyze their voices, you find differences that are significant, which allows us to classify a child as autistic or not."

In addition to Bonneh’s autism study, eXaudios cites other research in Parkinson’s disease, schizophrenia, heart disease and dyslexia. The company even has anecdotal evidence that they can diagnose prostate cancer by analyzing a person’s voice. According to Levanon, a person with prostate cancer has a "Grand Canyon" of missing tones that is "catastrophic to the voice."

eXaudios is not the only group that has linked a person’s voice to a medical condition. Cogito Health, a Boston-based company, already uses software originally developed by Alex Pentland of the Massachusetts Institute of Technology to diagnose depression in patients, and more recently, for patient drug compliance and post traumatic stress syndrome.

Analyzing a person’s voice to gain clues about their health and emotional state is nothing new, said Pentland. Humans do it all the time. The computer is just doing a better job at voice analysis than most people because it largely ignores content and focuses on form.

Whether a computer or human is analyzing a conversation, however, "it’s not what you say," said Pentland. "It’s how you say it."


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that check has to do with that phone stuff, its complicated.
















not funny, i went to high school with a
Bland.
i wonder.

and ohya, i ran into that a while back, it was kinda fun because they were also accompanied by other call by con artists,,,,,,,,,,i wonder why they were mixed in with those calls.

durring that time i also got about 20-30 thousand dollars in checks,,,,,,,,,,,,real checks yet part ofa fraud ring out of kenya.:eek:


even took them to the bank and they ran a check and it was real but on a closed acount,,,,,,,,,,closed due to un-authorized charges to accounts, so they would close that acount and open a new one,,,,,,,,then about a year os so later the fraud ones would be sent to guys like me to cash and send a good portion of it back to them.

this could be done for several reasons,,,,,,,,,,fraud being the least of the evils from this crap.

and ya i would get calls that i would sense were actualy done to read my emotions.

havent thought about tht in a few months, ive had more pressing issues.

but im glad my hunch was correct.

see im kinda like a men who stare at goats type.


it is my plan to either compltly destroy those kinda things or make it where any abuse of such tech is met with swift and harsh justice, reason why is simple,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,those Massad aholes got im my bussiness and screwed around,,,,,,,,,,why well i dont know why but i dont like it.

and well an israely connection then the palestinian connection, the problems both have caused me, well looks like im a bit unbiased as far as they stand now in my book,,,,,,,,,,,,,,hate to say it,,,,,,,,,,,but neither is in the position to negotiate or piss me off an more than i already am and ya pissoff pun intended so i see your little MAddoff operative and raise you a Pissoff Operator:eek:


fuck this drives me wonkers, did they all bend me over and not even say thanks,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh well how does the law read when services are given,,,,,,,,lets say like building a house or you put your car in the shop,,,,,,,,,,,,,isnt that property then get owned by the one that built it or fixed it;).

So going by the law in most lands as well as world court, again my case made, the records are there.

heck i even have some of the checks sent.
connected to tht phone thingy.

im sure an ivestigation into my phone records and corelate them to what was occuring in my banking and the checks sent to me provide enough evidence to constitute an ivestigation into some area,,,,,,,,,the checks to say the least.

that check could serve many purposes,,,,if i cashed it and it was bad i would be responsible for one, for two, if i cashed it and sent the money back for taxes to a sweepstakes then i would be out even more money's,,,,,,,,,,,ok thats the small part of it,,,,,,,,,,,,now consider a set up, or a frame job,,,,,,,and it is sending moneys to terrorists thus provideing trumped up evidence even though even just that little could end me up somewhere tyring to prove my sitchuation to some rookie that already has orders to not listen some crazy ramlings about the true low-down.

now what makes me so insanely important to so many and why do they try to keep me fucked up as well as recrute me well i havent been all that honest and well they should have konwn why,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ohya they did.



imagine a boy, a prodigy of sorts,,,,,,,now not just any kinda prodigy but that of lets say Beckwith, Channon, Marcinko,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now consider those three,,,,,,,,,,,,and think of the one that noone knows who he realy is,,,,,,,,,,i think they call that guy MI kinda thing,,,,,,,,,,and that one usualy is also the most deadly in those circles if he's worth his salt in any kinda way.
I dont like those wimpy types, they would crumble if caught or tortured, so spy's there good at paperwork:eek:ya i said it.

im going to get poetic.

im more like a lerps MI type, im fast, im hard, and im heavy, im like a Warthog and Apache in one, being fast factual and faithful is not my duty it is my honor,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i can go undercover and raise up raining hellfire, i can feed the hungry and kill the ravenouse,,,,,,,,,,,,,what am i, i dont know exatly but i know my heart, i also know that war comes about from those that rape and pilage.

What is a Wargod, he is one that subdues war and defeats the cause of it,,,,,,,,,,that is what a wargod is in reality, not in those video games.


not like some warcrazy ravenouse hitler type.

see why not have them say something like that crap in games like whats it called Wargod 3,,,,,,,,,,dam i didnt even know there was a one.

i played a game called Boulders gate, fucking thing pissedme off,,,,,the reason why is i almost believed it was what was going on.

the reason why is i was intorduced to that game by a guy that nearly cut my head off poisoned me and well messed with my life serously, so a couple years later i baought a copy and played it for a while and did some more indepth research int what this guy was percieving in my life,,,,,,,,,,,,asshole could have sat me down and asked some questions.



So to those out there that asked why i didnt go to a news paper,,,,,,,,,,well lets see.

one army intel officer, a navy intel, two marines then a few others thrown in where my mentors in native american cerimonial ways,,,,,,,,,,,and if they were that nutty, and were spreading rumors for about 13 years then you tell me how many avenues would i have left open especialy when theyve doctored some ofmy records and emphasised things never even brought into anything or lets say a simple battery charge, or car accident,,,,,,,,,,the first responce i always get from these people is,,,,,,,,,,,,,whod you beet up or run into,,,,,,,,,,,no the what happend was i stepped out of the way because i didnt whant to get manhandled after in informed the circle of bouncers and one or two wanted to show off in front of the others,,,,,,,,,,well i just kinda moved, didnt touch him and kinda ran:o well i was caught and spent 18 days in jail, the reason why is i didnt want to get hurt and told them i was on meds and was having a bad reaction and neaded help not harm and if i was going to be harmed i may harm you out of reflex.

and the two car accidents last year well, i was rear ended, the next one the person ran a stop sign,,,,,,,,,,,,,.

weird huh,,,,,,,,,,,thing is that is how extensive they slanderd me localy,,,,,,,,and why the secrecy in the slander,,,,,,,,,well i suppose its because of fear not of my making,,,,,,,,,,,,so you see i am a victim,,,,,,,,,,,a sandwiched victim in a pickle kinda scenario.


So the cost of my fealings and opening up this to the public is of little concern for me,,,,,,,,,realy,,,,,,,,,,,,,reason being is i know i could not live with myself if i just kinda layed low and on my bely just to get laid:rolleyes:
nah stakes to high.

so how do you fight someone that realy has nothing to lose and the world to gain(as in gain humanity's freedom once again;))


and what does checks, kenya, and phone emoting detectors have to do with anything.

ya its called Emoting.

or the opisite of Empathic, there is also Emote, which is what most people do anyways,,,,,,,,,,,,,,some can do both,,,,,,,,,,and it pissesmeoff when someone trys playing around on me,,,,,,,,,,,i hate flexing it usualy kinda makes them almost ill,,,,,,,,,,


that should explane more about the Damage superhero comparason earlier in my posts.

i can also take what is sent at me, mold it or even cause it to gane force and then kinda send it back,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and i dont practice because it would not be very good,,,,,,,,,,,,,instead i kinda use God as a filter not some mundane meditation's and emotional detachment techniques, it is that detachment that would make me a danger,,,and well i can handle any faithless fool that does it in a sceintific way,,,,,,,,,,,.

an example of the differnce is compare the Sun to a nuclear reactor,,,,,,,,which one has more potential, which one will last longer, and well which one genrates more energy and gives us a pretty sunset at the end of the day,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well The Sun does all those things, and that is the differnce between the Faithfull True method and the scientific methodical method,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so you want the FTM or the SMM,,,,,,,,,,,


but then my gift is more in the faith category so i suppose im a bit biased there.



not to sound scattered but hay i have all the right im not doing this to make a book or a career in conspiracy theories either.
and anyone realy reading what im saying and not there own prejeduce perceptions then they will understand why im writting this before im fullly capable of doing so in a more profesional way,,,,,,,,,,,and who knows maybe God himself told me to.
ohya i mentioned that,,,,,,,,,JUNE-20-2008 look it up under the complex lightning storm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,funny it is a bit complex.
ya my enemy was working over time trying to get me back on there pills.

[the perfect one]

Kimball.. You need to seriously have a look at yourself in the mirror. stand there for a minute if you can and deeply look at yourself. Do you want to live the rest of your life like that? I sure wouldn't..

And also to the other one-to both of you.


How old are you? What do you do for a living? I know you sent me a pm wanting know any updates on my story. I was thinking about it, but now ,I'm wondering the motive. You want to know what my info is -you'll have to read the thread. I'm not amused at the moment.

I dont think Kimball looking in the mirror and looking deeply into himself is gonna undo everything they have done to him. If you guys cannot see he has been through a lot and that maybe the both of you have no understanding about mind control. Then maybe silence is the answer.

You do not treat people that have been targets, in this condescending manner. You both have no idea what hell this stuff can put a person through. Therefore , I think a quick bowing out of this thread will do you both some good. Take a long look at how you both treated this man. Sure you wernt as bad as the other bloke,but come on....it's easy to see what you were up to, as well. Think real long on what it looks like to other people who read what you write. People are not stupid like some of you think. Carefully written words to lead people in a certain direction maybe? Sure Kimball has problems getting his message across. Some of these whistle blowers type stuff in code to others ya know. I started to but then said the hell with it. Not everyone has balls of steal like me. NO brag -just fact.Some targeted individuals use movies as a way to describe events that happened to them. So stop and take a long look into your heart and find a soul will you two.You never know what another person has been through ,until it happens to you. Maybe a little instant karma would do you both a world of good.

[the perfect one]

areoshaft-I am special . Do you want to know why? Cuz I got heart and soul. I got to beat the evil and I'm damn proud and no one -no fake poser will ever take it away from me. Got it?

You wouldnt have lasted ten seconds in the nest of ugly I was in. You would have folded . You dont have a deep story and I can tell. You have no clue ,you poser.

[kimball13]

thank you perfect one,,,,,,,,,,im kinda going through it,,,,,,,,,,,im starting to open up more honestly to those around me,,,,,,hard to do because my mind is so clutterd,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i could use a vacation:o

i hate to think that the entire millitary is in on it, as well as all the polititions,.

is this how they treat there so called hero's.

is it, fuck.

well sooner or later i might begin to believe it.
scarry thought,.

but after hearing timothy mcveighs interview and him sounding like a guy called Delta Steve realy kinda floored me andwell was a precursor to me coming out of my fucked up state quiker.

ok i better take a break now.

[j35p3r4d0]

i have a serious question in regards to that x-ray of yours.

i can feel a lump on the right side of the base of my skull, it's not present on the other side, and it's in exactly the same position as your own.

when i apply pressure to it, it creates a sense of acupoint pressure that spreads over the outside of my right cranial hemisphere. This also does not occur on the other side.

it's not hard, but its solid, and withstands pressure, and seems to branch down toward my spine along the muscle, and i have been experiencing both bodily asymmetry (not so suspect) and pronounced mental asymmetry (highly suspicious) for a while now, which was something i had somewhat attributed to natural weighting for normal functions and brain processes.

what do you think>?


iv been committed before, when i was 17, due to delusional paranoia brought on by drug use producing unnatural spiritual awakening. From what i'v learnt since, this was an opportunity that was used to somewhat skew my mental processes, including psychic violation as a means of producing psychological submission. I have still not 'submitted' yet.

currently i am battling implanted (mentally) thought patterns as they relate to my life, although previous to most of this i did acquire genuine spiritual knowledge and psychic ability. I'm more of a 'desk type', but my work was always true, and some of it was reasonably original in value.

Do you think 'they' are dependent on the few natural spiritualised psychics to glean their practices from>?

what do you think, man? I trust the path you're on, and i want your opinion.

-peace.

[kimball13]

yes.

example, meth was/is used my nazi info for mk-ultra,,,,,,,,,,,,it opens up parts of the mind,,,,,,,,,,,it is a scientific chemical quiker version that leads to paranoi or even things like wha thappend at forthood.

they are inhibitor chips, to either shut down or stimulate certain parts, such as stomach, adreanal glands, etc.

i veiwed an older set and could make out staple shaped ones on the lower vertabrei.


im going to get back to this.

today someone either spoke out of emotions,not realy it was because there game is falling apart.

but i was asked if i wanted to join my murderd children.

sorry but operational security that ive tried to maintain even in this frame of mind and state has caused this to continue.

when someone says that i clam up,,,,,,,,,or when somone comes around claiming or having mill experience of a spec type,,,,,,,,,,,,out of there safety and such i get quite, yet i dont hide it from them,,,,,,,,,,,,,i do say something.

but when they ask if i joined the service i cant lie,so i say no,,,,,,,,,,,now if they asked if i was drafted/conscripted asa child then i could say yes i am in the millitary.

thats the problem i have with the conditioning i went through, ask the right question and i can answer but ask me to lie and even if its close i still have to correct and explain and by then my heads all jumbled and emotional.

so ya it sounds similar, but i wouldnt go around saying it to much, just use my story for now.

andif you can go to get films or already have a set sitting in a medical record room go request them and take a look,,,,,,they have to let you see them,,,,,,,,,,,,if you can get them right when you ask,,,,,,,if they say fill out a request and come back in 48 hours, let them know please dont alter them.

i have a set of photo shoped ones also,,,,,,,,,and you can tell when you set them side by side,,,,,,,,,,,,im not inot that teck but i have a real good eye.

and well im going to get back to your post a bit later, ive got allot of stuff going on right now, not to mention still calming down.

[kimball13]

i have a serious question in regards to that x-ray of yours.

i can feel a lump on the right side of the base of my skull, it's not present on the other side, and it's in exactly the same position as your own.

when i apply pressure to it, it creates a sense of acupoint pressure that spreads over the outside of my right cranial hemisphere. This also does not occur on the other side.

it's not hard, but its solid, and withstands pressure, and seems to branch down toward my spine along the muscle, and i have been experiencing both bodily asymmetry (not so suspect) and pronounced mental asymmetry (highly suspicious) for a while now, which was something i had somewhat attributed to natural weighting for normal functions and brain processes.

what do you think>?


iv been committed before, when i was 17, due to delusional paranoia brought on by drug use producing unnatural spiritual awakening. From what i'v learnt since, this was an opportunity that was used to somewhat skew my mental processes, including psychic violation as a means of producing psychological submission. I have still not 'submitted' yet.

currently i am battling implanted (mentally) thought patterns as they relate to my life, although previous to most of this i did acquire genuine spiritual knowledge and psychic ability. I'm more of a 'desk type', but my work was always true, and some of it was reasonably original in value.

Do you think 'they' are dependent on the few natural spiritualised psychics to glean their practices from>?

what do you think, man? I trust the path you're on, and i want your opinion.

-peace.

yes it is the gleening that is spot on i can attest to that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the other thing is they have convinced many to keep quite about it while the drones or robots go out and play spiritual guru.

example, the sweet lodge in arizona that people died in is what happens because of THEM.

[kimball13]

:DUS Generals Revolt Against Zionist Policy?well i wounder;)

i told them, an apache is one to recon with, now put that with a very long line of Templar, but not just any Templar line:cool:

now a happy dance, or whatever, maybe a good nights sleep its been a heck of a couple of weeks.:rolleyes:

[kimball13]

Grace an unearned gift from God,,,,,,,,,,,,strange how mace becomes grace to then become war:confused:



i know where the transmitter is here, i was near it and there speakers gave feed back, a bit loud.

now imagine if they were tying to get there guy in a door somewhere.
and because of my incapacitated state they just had to play amnesia crap.

the reason is simple, should i post a group of picts of me thoughout my life that ive managed to hold onto.

as well as a few of others before me, the resemblance is uncanny.

now also consider this, in social groups there are some coming around to create tell story's of there insanity and such while putting in similarity's to my story in order to create a feild of insanity,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thing is that one x-ray should be enough proof, i shouldnt have to say anything to recieve help.

realy think about it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,if a man walked into your office and showed you those pictures and then told you there story,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,would you either say i cannot involve myself it scares me, or let me see what i can do, or i wll help,,,,,,,,,,,,,etc,,,,,,,,,,,,,but what is said is your crazy, you have any proof,,,,,,,,,oh you need medications.

now then why is it that when i speak to a former member im thanked for holding my mud to this day,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,he/we have known of eachother for 19 years,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,other case in point,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,he was also part of what happend to me, he also has remorse,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,yet is i dont know, my heart hurts allot over this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,my own family was paid off by others in the millitary,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the drugg dealling prototute running get what they can,,,,,,,,,and hide behind me.
ya realy.
in veitnam Beckwith dismissed an entire unit i believe because they were more interested in drug and prostitution running and dealing,,,,,,,,,,,than staying alive,,,,,,,,,,,,so he let them go,,,,,,,,,,,,well some of them live near here if i read the name right.

thing also is my story hasnt changed,,,,,,,,,some details have evolved due to lack of memorie of information,,,,,,,,,,,,but the mane body of it has not,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.

that shadow war of human slave trafficing and such, has remained a good part of it all,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,other thing is both sides work for the same goverment and branches of service.

it boils down to which dog are you going to feed the good dog or bad dog.

or should i say good dog or evil dog.

funny that kimball means God's bright shinning hound, also wargod.

ive had to deal with allot of facets to this,,,the conspiracy theorists and such, the paranoid drug dealers, the formar and current service members,,,,,,,,,,,,,both ally's and foe's,,,,,,,,,,,,i say foe's because sometimes i find they switch allot due to confusion and such,,,,,,,,,,,,but after awhile it becomes obviouse,,,,,,,,,,,,,,usualy for me my first judgement is correct,,,,,,,but before that judgement is made i listen with my heart and mind, i dont clutter it with formulae and text book crap.

you cannot ever learn how to do what i do, shit i dont know how i do it half the time.

for instance, they think if they make me mad the sun will comeout and it will get warm,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,finnaly today i said hay stupid, can i let you in on something? in winter it does that, summer it rains,,,,,,,,,,,,,now if i cant figure it out then how the heck can they assume they will,,,,,,,,,,,,,just maybe its God and Mother Earth saying you know what we have kimball13's back and God knows ive realy been a patient and tolerant servant of God.

dont get me wrong im not claiming signs and such,,,,,,,,,,,,what i am saying is because of my faith and such as well as my heart and path when im being hurt to the point i react with a bit of anger the weather is affected, and at times to an extent that causes great fear for some.

The believe if they keep me messed up that im weak, and weakening,,,,,,,,,,thing is do they think they can weaken God, mother earth, the sun,,,,,,,,,,,,,if so then ok i can say there realy crazy,,,,,,,,,,,now over time ive told them not to do certain things because all i know is God wont like it,,,,,,,,,,,now over time after ive noticed them trying to learn how to do it as well as controle it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thing is if they ever did learn how then why would they need me anymore:rolleyes:im still here.

and it does seem the more force the aply them more they will suffer,,,,,,,,,,its sad realy,,,,,,,,,,,,,just like that comic book Damage.

funny thing also is when my life was alright so was the economy, the weather, etc,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just something i noticed.

but when i was attacked and threats on my life stuff pops off big time,,,,,,,,,,and all they can to is pick and do scientific studys,,,,,,,,,,,,,then they say oh you create reality, ya right.

im seriose about this stuff, i hear it, in private or in a kinda inside conversation around others.

But around homeless and such the speach is freareir,,,,,,,,,,,oh but that is where they get some recruites,,,,,,,matter of fact i had to put one in his place kinda.

i hate doing that, i look a bit disrespectfull, but hay, if you a child and you freind is being raped by an adult do you say excuse me but can i help,,,,,,,,,,,,,,heck no you grab something heavy and smash the sicko rapist i would hope.


Now anymore qustions please look up men who stare at goats on youtube, or what they hay rent the movie.
now consider most of those guys went private, now consider if they knew of a young boy that grew up and continued on in that stuff, so the made a plan and used corporations to do it,,,,,,,,,,,,.


take a look at Remote Veiwing, Remote Influencing, conversational hypnotism, and a few other things.

now think how private and corprate some of them are.


basicly they trie to recreate what some do naturaly, they come a bit close on the social front, but paterns break down in nature, formulaes fail with the heart.
sooner or later.
but the natural only does it for survival and what that one is is in direct proportion to there responsibility and authority.


they get $50. each time they upset me, each time they anger me is a fifty in there pocket,,,,,,,,,,,,crazy huh,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i warn them.

funny also is there is another case of looking like an asshole, because to outsiders in this it looks very strange when i just say oh you made a quike fifty,,,,,,,,,,,,,but hay its kinda funny to me realy,,,,,,,,,because its like they paint themselves,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,as in painting targets.

then that guy richard from 160 talking all that 22 stuff,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya i knew that kid,,,,,,,,i also knew when that happend back in highschool what was going on and how sick some around hear realy are.

So i suppose im the only blood hound for this crap, na i donthink so,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ever see the movie killing room,,,,,,,,,well think of it as not a guy blowing something up but a guy that wont stop because he cannot stand by and watch others be tormented to suicide,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,its fucking discusting.

so please tell on yourselves,,,,,,,,,,,but oh what is it this weak, which fomulae to you need to use for this one,,,,,,,,,,,,,is it nice,,,,,,,is it attack,,,,,,,is it ingnore,,,,,,,or send a homeless person that just wants a dollar burger or a pack of smokes.

i already ran there assasin guantlet, the putting it out on the streets im a snitch cop dea etc guantlet of crime,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the mental health guantlet, the legal one, the police one, sherif one, etc realy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,every group they could manipulate under false pretenses and such has failed,,,,,,,,,all accept one.
Fear, i cannot defeat fear for others.
thing is the fear is an illusion until you harm me to much then something always happens,,,,,,,,,then they change and go back to it because of finacial stuff,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya those that stop messing with me run into finacial problems, hence why wall st got slammed,,,,,,,,,,,,the st neaded a lesson which they did not learn.
Maddoff said it was impossible while he was the one doing the dirty deed,
just like with me, so who is it saying impossible.


they say its impossilbe for someone that has been through what i have to be normal in any way or mentaly healthy.

the thing is ive never not known some kinda inhuman suffering to some extent for most of my life from the hands of another, so one excuse they make is im a hitler type due to my lifes experiences, or a manson or somthing along those lines,,,,,.

now way differnt,,,,,,,,,,,now take Sen. John Mcain, he spent 6 years in a pow camp in Veitnam, so he's a senator after that?
now consider this, he was a young man, led a life of privlage, then crashed and had it all taken in an instant, talk about shock.

now take me, just like a weight lifter, or other such iron man athlete, now put that to emotional and pain tolerances for a life time, this is why when im happy i have a very large abundance of energy and joy, i dont go into shock but i do need a bit of guidance at times.

its like forrest gumps braces coming off.

my hard life has been pretty consistent in some things, thing is its been pain and suffering, humilation and slander, neglect and abuse, not much in the way of a hand up, not even proper medical attention.
but they think that if it was them they would get revenge and stab anyone in the back tha looked like a threat if they ever gained power,,,,,,,,,,,thing is im not most of them or most people,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,im me,,,and i see in others what i see in myself,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thing also is i see my good qualitys in others, and those qualitys like mine i overlook unless i can give constructive advice,,,,,,,,,,,my opposites i dont get to mad at, i do get mad at them though i a differnt way,,,,,,,,,,its more like if i have to take them out i will enjoy it, others i dread the thought of even defending myself against because i have love,,,,,,,,,,,,,its weird

[kimball13]

im no lawyer, but looking a bit into Seal Team Six i found this dated 1979.
it was then that things got very strange.
also it was then that the document about social influencing was written, dealing with brainwashing and mk-ultra.

but here is the executive order that suspends labor laws, so if this is what it is saying this is how they justified using me since i was a young boy.
without pay, without benifits, without anything but well i wrote what happend that ive remember thus far.



http://www.archives.gov/federal-register/codification/executive-order/12171.html
Executive Order 12171--Exclusions from the Federal Labor-Management Relations Program

Source: The provisions of Executive Order 12171 of Nov. 19, 1979, appear at 44 FR 66565, 3 CFR, 1979 Comp., p. 458, unless otherwise noted.

By the authority vested in me as President by the Constitution and statutes of the United States of America, including Section 7103(b) of Title 5 of the United States Code, and in order to exempt certain agencies or subdivisions thereof from coverage of the Federal Labor-Management Relations Program, it is hereby ordered as follows:

1-1. Determinations.

1-101. The agencies or subdivisions thereof set forth in Section 1-2 of this Order are hereby determined to have as a primary function intelligence, counterintelligence, investigative, or national security work. It is also hereby determined that Chapter 71 of Title 5 of the United States Code cannot be applied to those agencies or subdivisions in a manner consistent with national security requirements and considerations. The agencies or subdivisions thereof set forth in Section 1-2 of this Order are hereby excluded from coverage under Chapter 71 of Title 5 of the United States Code.

1-102. Having determined that it is necessary in the interest of national security, the provisions of Chapter 71 of Title 5 of the United States Code are suspended with respect to any agency, installation, or activity listed in Section 1-3 of this Order. However, such suspension shall be applicable only to that portion of the agency, installation, or activity which is located outside the 50 States and the District of Columbia.

1-2. Exclusions.

1-201. The Information Security Oversight Office, General Services Administration.

1-202. The Federal Research Division, Research Services, the Library of Congress.

1-203. Agencies or subdivisions of the Department of the Treasury:
(a) The U.S. Secret Service.
(b) The U.S. Secret Service Uniformed Division.
(c) The Office of Special Assistant to the Secretary (National Security).
(d) The Office of Intelligence Support (OIS).
(e) The Office of the Assistant Secretary (Enforcement and Operations) (OEO).
(f) The Office of Criminal Enforcement, Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco, and Firearms.
(g) The Office of Investigations, U.S. Customs Service.
(h) The Criminal Investigation Division, Internal Revenue Service.

1-204. Agencies or subdivisions of the Department of the Army, Department of Defense:
(a) Office of Assistant Chief of Staff for Intelligence.
(b) U.S. Army Intelligence and Security Command.
(c) U.S. Army Foreign Science and Technology Center.
(d) U.S. Army Intelligence Center and School.
(e) U.S. Army Missile Intelligence Agency.
(f) Foreign Intelligence Office, U.S. Army Missile Research and Development Command.

1-205. Agencies or subdivisions of the Department of the Navy, Department of Defense:
(a) Office of Naval Intelligence.
(b) Naval Intelligence Command Headquarters and Subordinate Commands.
(c) Headquarters, Naval Security Group Command.
(d) Naval Security Group Activities and Detachments.
(e) Fleet Intelligence Center, Europe and Atlantic (FICEURLANT).
(f) Fleet Intelligence Center, Pacific (FICPAC).
(g) Units composed primarily of employees engaged in the operation, repair, and/or maintenance of "off line" or "on line" cryptographic equipment.
(h) Units composed primarily of employees of naval telecommunications activities in positions which require a cryptographic authorization.

1-206. Agencies or subdivisions of the Department of the Air Force, Department of Defense:
(a) Office of Space Systems, Office of the Secretary of the Air Force.
(b) Office of Special Projects, Office of the Secretary of the Air Force.
(c) Engineering Office, Space and Missile Systems Organization (Air Force Systems Command).
(d) Program Control Office, Space and Missile Systems Organization (Air Force Systems Command).
(e) Detachment 3, Space and Missile Systems Organization (Air Force Systems Command).
(f) Defense Dissemination Systems Program Office, Space and Missile Systems Organization (Air Force Systems Command).
(g) Satellite Data System Program Office, Space and Missile Systems Organization (Air Force Systems Command).
(h) Project Office at El Segundo, California, Office of the Secretary of the Air Force.
(i) Project Office at Patrick Air Force Base, Florida, Office of the Secretary of the Air Force.
(j) Project Office at Fort Myer, Virginia, Office of the Secretary of the Air Force.
(k) Air Force Office of Special Investigations.
(l) U.S. Air Force Security Service.
(m) Foreign Technology Division, Air Force Systems Command, Wright-Patterson Air Force Base.
(n) 1035 Technical Operations Group (Air Force Technical Applications Center), Air Force Systems Command, and subordinate units.
(o) 3480 Technical Training Wing, Air Training Command, Goodfellow Air Force Base, Texas.
(p) Office of the Assistant Chief of Staff, Intelligence.
(q) Air Force Intelligence Service.

[Sec. 1-206 amended by Executive Order 12338 of Jan. 11, 1982, 47 FR 1369, 3 CFR, 1982 Comp., p. 120]

1-207. The Defense Intelligence Agency, Department of Defense.

1-208. The Defense Investigative Service, Department of Defense.

Sec. 1-209. Agencies or subdivisions of the Department of Justice. (a) The Office of Enforcement and the Office of Intelligence, including all domestic field offices and intelligence units, of the Drug Enforcement Administration.
(b) The Office of Special Operations, the Threat Analysis Group, the Enforcement Operations Division, the Witness Security Division and the Court Security Division in the Office of the Director and the Enforcement Division in Offices of the United States Marshals in the United States Marshals Service.

[Sec. 1-209 amended by Executive Order 12632 of Mar. 23, 1988, 53 FR 9852, 3 CFR, 1988 Comp., p. 560]

1-210. Agencies or subdivisions of the Department of Energy.
(a) The Albuquerque, Nevada and Savannah River operations offices under the Under Secretary of Energy.
(b) Offices of the Assistant Secretary for Defense Programs.

[Sec. 1-210 amended by Executive Order 12338 of Jan. 11, 1982, 47 FR 1369, 3 CFR, 1982 Comp., p. 120]

1-211. Offices within the Agency for International Development:
(a) The Immediate Office of the Auditor General.
(b) The Office of Inspections and Investigations.
(c) The Office of Security.
(d) The Office of the Area Auditor General/Washington.

1-212. Agencies or subdivisions under the operational jurisdiction of the Joint Chiefs of Staff (JCS).
(a) Intelligence Division (J-2), Headquarters Atlantic Command (LANTCOM).
(b) Atlantic Command Electronic Intelligence Center.
(c) Intelligence Directorate (J-2), Headquarters U.S. European Command (USEUCOM).
(d) Special Security Office (SSO), Headquarters U.S. European Command (USEUCOM).
(e) European Defense Analysis Center (EUDAC).
(f) Intelligence Directorate (J-2), Headquarters Pacific Command (PACOM).
(g) Intelligence Center Pacific (IPAC).
(h) Intelligence Directorate (J-2), Headquarters U.S. Southern Command (USSOUTHCOM).
(i) Intelligence Directorate (J-2), Headquarters U.S. Readiness Command (USREDCOM)/Joint Deployment Agency.
(j) Deputy Chief of Staff/Intelligence, Headquarters Strategic Air Command (SAC).
(k) 544th Strategic Intelligence Wing, Strategic Air Command (SAC).
(l) Deputy Chief of Staff/Intelligence, Headquarters 15th Air Force, Strategic Air Command (SAC).
(m) Deputy Chief of Staff/Intelligence, Headquarters 8th Air Force, Strategic Air Command (SAC).
(n) Strategic Reconnaissance Center, Headquarters Strategic Air Command (SAC).
(o) 6th Strategic Wing, Strategic Air Command (SAC).
(p) 9th Strategic Reconnaissance Wing, Strategic Air Command (SAC).
(q) 55th Strategic Reconnaissance Wing, Strategic Air Command (SAC).
(r) 306th Strategic Wing, Strategic Air Command (SAC).
(s) 376th Strategic Wing, Strategic Air Command (SAC).
(t) Deputy Chief of Staff/Operations Plans, Headquarters Strategic Air Command (SAC).
(u) The Joint Strategic Target Planning Staff (JSTPS).
(v) The Joint Special Operations Command (JSOC).

[Sec. 1-212 added by Executive Order 12338 of Jan. 11, 1982, 47 FR 1369, 3 CFR, 1982 Comp., p. 120; amended by Executive Order 12410 of Mar. 28, 1983, 48 FR 13143, 3 CFR, 1983 Comp., p. 155]

1-213. The subdivisions of the Federal Aviation Administration, Department of Transportation:
(a) Federal Air Marshal Branch, International Civil Aviation Security Division, Office of Civil Aviation Security.
(b) Units composed of Civil Aviation Security Inspectors in Civil Aviation Security divisions whose responsibilities require Federal air marshal functions.

[Sec. 1-213 added by Executive Order 12666 of Jan. 12, 1989, 54 FR 1921, 3 CFR, 1989 Comp., p. 207]

1-3. Units outside the 50 States and the District of Columbia.

1-301. The Drug Enforcement Administration, Department of Justice.






as i suspected, after about 15 minutes of looking at this.


just this simple part says it all, the rest of it is details, such as it goes into special skills and if you working in an agency or the millitary how they will make sure your not tortured and what not as well as your old enough and such.


http://www.law.cornell.edu/uscode/html/uscode05/usc_sec_05_00007104----000-.html
(A) investigate alleged unfair labor practices under this chapter,
(B) file and prosecute complaints under this chapter, and
(C) exercise such other powers of the Authority as the Authority may prescribe.


it is buried in forming unions and such jargon and such.

so im pretty sure at the time it was kinda blind eyed it was only because the emphasis of not allowing unions in such things as Seal Team Six:eek:.
alright i better stop now im getting a bit heated and then my mind goes into overdrive and the keyboard cant keep up, realy it does happen, or it could by typing dixlexia:rolleyes: the last letter was the tirsf(first)kinda like that, guese that comes from having hand guns on ops i suppose, herding the enemy, painting them, who knows, it is a bit frightening to consider.

ohwell.

im going to do a bit more research that i shouldnt have to do,,,,,,,,,,,,,after all ther is supposed to be a classaction law suit filed in SF CA over a year ago, i just wonder why i havent been contacted, i would blow the lid of it i suppose.

talk about an emotional ringer.

[kimball13]

§ 7118. Prevention of unfair labor practices
How Current is This?
(a)
(1) If any agency or labor organization is charged by any person with having engaged in or engaging in an unfair labor practice, the General Counsel shall investigate the charge and may issue and cause to be served upon the agency or labor organization a complaint. In any case in which the General Counsel does not issue a complaint because the charge fails to state an unfair labor practice, the General Counsel shall provide the person making the charge a written statement of the reasons for not issuing a complaint.




good thing they wrote it for me, :rolleyes::eek:

like they did, they trained me to use the enemy's weopons against them.
my main mission was what, CT, HR, Intel, i suppose im not an assasin like some wanted to think to justifie there treatement of me, but i understand they did not know, for all they knew i was some crazed bloodthirsty loonitic,,,,,,,,,,,,,not realy, but send me after some tyranicle oprresor holding hostages and harming the inocent, ya i could kinda dig that.
so ya i know how and what they choose for what.
So because no proof of cruel or murderouse actions or missions on my part dont exists and all they have are honorable actions they dont even have that to keep me under a legal umbrela protecting there secrets, others im sure were set up or provoked in public life to come under a civilian legal thumb, im not under either, in reality they are under mine if this makes a change.

on this forum ive layed it out there, all of it to the best of my ability so far.
the over all agenda of the crime and scope should not rest soley on my shoulders, the fact that a very horendouse inhuman crime has been done to me should be enough to garnish advocacy somewhere, this is begining to look like i may have to seek asylum and bring the United States Goverment up on War crimes and such do to there lack of protecting there citizens from cruel and inhuman toruture and war crimes by our own millitary for over 30 years now.


i dont like the thought of that, but it may come to this, it may come to having to destroy the reputation and ultimatly destroy americas credibility on all fronts, mainly humanitarian and human rights violations, and all because they refused to simpley correct a wrong done to one person and because of that it caused many others to be hurt do to there coverup.

[noewhan]

I understand what you're on about. I think your pointing to the fact the the military is in cahoots with extra terrestrials. You're not alone. Are they real aliens, or something made in a lab - or guys in suits?

Referring to a link in your sig which doesn't exist (the thread does though) tells me that you're new to forums in general. (Or something else)
(you need to select the words, then click on the link button ((Planet button with what looks like 2 chain links)) then insert the link 'http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32526')

Or, you're a hoaxer & for that reason alone (if true), others will not respect you and fair enough. There's too much fluff on the net.

I'm not sure why you use ',,,,,,,' so much. Maybe it's just how you type. Don't worry about people calling you names & stuff on the forum, don't take it personally. :)

[kimball13]

I understand what you're on about. I think your pointing to the fact the the military is in cahoots with extra terrestrials. You're not alone. Are they real aliens, or something made in a lab - or guys in suits?

Referring to a link in your sig which doesn't exist (the thread does though) tells me that you're new to forums in general. (Or something else)
(you need to select the words, then click on the link button ((Planet button with what looks like 2 chain links)) then insert the link 'http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32526')

Or, you're a hoaxer & for that reason alone (if true), others will not respect you and fair enough. There's too much fluff on the net.

I'm not sure why you use ',,,,,,,' so much. Maybe it's just how you type. Don't worry about people calling you names & stuff on the forum, don't take it personally. :)

when in survival mode i suppose ya dont learn the ins and outs in forums.

no im no hoaxer, my medical records are on these threads, i will fix it on my sig, i know how to put them in posts.

ive been trying to get it online while as fresh in my mind as possible


http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32526


oh the coma thing is for several reasons, one is to break up the monotany and make kinda points,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,as well as let the reader kinda know there is allot more,,,,,,,,,,,,i supose i had to form my own litle gramer kinda thing.

as well as software programs and such, call it chaffe.

[kimball13]

oh as far as aliens go sorry none in my story, other than an underground thing.

but bigfoot ya.

im seriose.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=3390

here is two pages of my medical records.

i only folded the part with name on it over for reasons of if you want my name and other info its all in my posts.

even on a few of the films i think.
backwards but up on the forum none the less.

no im no fake, or hoaxer, trust me ive tried my damdest to disprove this all.

yet every time i go back into research and collecting records that i have acces to, and that little chip is kinda the straw that broke this coverups back,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thank God it wasnt mine this time like back in 2001.

it bothers me that none of the doctors or x-ray techs ever said anything.

i wonder why?????????????????????????????????:mad:


talk about malpractice, i wonder if they told any one else and if so then thats breach of Doctor patient privlages.
especialy since i had no knowledge ,

what is realy hard is there are many that found out why they were paid and orderd to keep me in an emotional turmoil state, in other words psychological torture for a very prolonged period,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but there is a positive aspect to this all, they have seen what ive gone through to an extent, and they know that is only the tip of the iceberg.

So im pretty sure many of there former employee's and assets are not to happy especialy after they have found out who they have been doing it to.

first they were fearful, then when they didnt die or such, there arrogance kicked in, now after a period of time they have began to understand im in the same kinda perplexed boat there in, i just have a lot more knowledge of what its all about as well as how evil they are that have done this to me.

especialy when they look around and see people that have done some very evil things being given pardons and rewards to then come and flaunt them in my face to provoke me:rolleyes:i warned them, how it works also.
trust me they do it to themselves, and just because there loved or parents does not excuse the evil they continue to do and its only there own creation doing what it was created for, gues they were not told that simple law of what you do comes back on you.

they send ten to attack me and 100 of them die.
im sure the ratio's change and such.

they trie to convince themselves that money is God blessing them for fucking with me, funny when they have illnesses and such, and wonder why is it that i can take so much abuse and attacks on so many levels and still manage.
as well as not let it affect my heart.


it is sad realy.
i was very angry for a long time because i knew those that did not heed those simple words, its not me you should fear for what you did to me, it is God you should fear as well as Mother Earth.
Why i dont know its just that way.
i never saw myself as anything better than or holyier than.
but i did notice my integrity as far as walking in a way God would want in a man in my situations as humanly as possible.
im not perfect, God is.

oh i live were jim jones started out as well as mason and a few others, that should validate it a bit more huh, esepecialy considering the law of nature.
Humanity is in trouble from anenemy, so the guard dogs are kinda drawn to the area of the prey so to say.
another funny coincedence is Kimball means God's bright shining hound, breaking just tha phrase down in all that it means would be a chapter in itself,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.
my first name is the name of the angel that guards the mercy seat.
i have the markings of another arcangel jehoel, which is very similar to my first name, three names of that angel are very simlar phonetical to my names.

all of my names mean the same thing as well as my astrologie, as well as life experience, i even vetted some of this in other religions i never was exposed to.
as well as having the chactoristics without the dogma of said person.

the dreams were before i was taken into be hypnotised and operated on.

i remeber a time of happyness, of cameras and pictures, a condo.
ya flashes of a childhood then bars, hippy's, scotish rite clinic, Buddhist temple, tubes put in ears, tonsils taken out, supositorys and such.
even private school, though strange, i think that school was part of what was done.
because i was a satalite of the mane school, ours was in a kinda office building wearhouse in the city, you know like a sewing building, or office space, in that building there were other things, even an insect room full of differnt insects.

the all of a sudden changed again.

long story.

there was also,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,damit, i just realised something, it is like i got to around the age of 5-8 or so then its like a whole other life, almost like two lives happening at the same time.
strange because ive had the same problem about my 21 birthday being in three differnt places.


those dreams though,

the other weird thing is i remember me and my step dad started out good, then when the medical stuff began he and my mom became very cold and distant, even as far as putting my face into my own feces, water boarding, and when i had a bad dream i was only allowed to sleep at the foot of the bed like a dog.

so i wonder if as a child i was placed with a differnt family somehow.

i was also told that the world would not know what to do with me,,,,,,,,,not that i could not get along in the world.

imagine if i could get my hands on my millitary records, or the records of what they did to me.
i realy think if any one should veiw those it should be me first, along with Gen Clarke, mayan elder,Bush jr,, Dali Lama, Yusuf Islam(Cat Stevens),Pres Obama, John Trudel, Tom Brown Jr, oh and Barber(the Warrior that stopped the fort hood DR), probley a few others to go over a few things of concern.

main concern i would see is what to disclose first, how to not prevent but destroy anything like this from ever happening again.
First solution is that, and its simple, give everyone the tools to defend themselves against manipulations of such things.

Why did i choose that bunch of the top of my head, well im pretty sure you recognize most of them, and if you take a look at there places in life you will understand.
as well as imagine the debates that group would have:D
and the way i see it, a counsel of elders to balance the U.N is neaded.
a counsel comprised of people of indigenous peoples to represent there people. as in celts represent celts, germans germans, etc.
not elected persay, more of the hereditary as well as culturaly aware as well as spiritual equive or have a working knowledg of such things in there respective tribal ways and forms of spiritual expression.

here is the kicker, this group would have the equive of a global delta force, or controle of most groups around the world:D i think that would be a good way of kicking off the N.O.W to kick the N.W.O's ass,,,,,,,,,,,,,no other way but to go into another type of hostage rescue heheheheheheheheheh(sorry im not to good at an ominous laugh)but im seriouse about this realy, i just like starting with what would be quike and ideal.
Who knows maybe it could happen:rolleyes:might take an act of God.
i should say another act of God though.


still would be nice though if reparations were made to me as well as help in healing and all the prophecy stuff was just part of there programing, but after all thats happend i dont think the prophecy stuff is going to turn out false,,,,thats what bugs me a bit, is i have heard so many as well as read so much crap about those claiming something similar, and the thought of being any kinda whatever creeps me out because its like i feel guys like that matreya dude salavating wishing they had my life story to use for there own story, or others claiming to be goverment experiements.

[kimball13]

whew, correcting those links in the sig were a pain.
i can complicate corflakes, but i can also simplify a cluster :eek:, explaining it can come later.
:D:o

[kimball13]

if i knew how to put up the youtube vids i would.

listen to this, and then to father and sons, realize that art also expresses what is going on in the world.

these two songs kinda explain.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=gcxXKty4cQI&playnext_from=QL&playnext=9

Heaven did program me;)
my only fault is/was im to young:cool:

[kimball13]

that is the base programing i spoke of in ealier posts.
those dreams of Rama, the reason why i was a one in a million shot, maybe the only one with the experience and knowledge to see it through, i just have to accept it, yet it kinda scares me because its like im just given certain things without knowing exactly where i learned them, yet it is also written that children would be born just like this, i suppose im a victim of social influencing just like the rest, the wise will be made fools, fools will be made wise, doesnt say that the wise will stay fools, nor the fools wise!:D

good way to put the demons on front street, give em rope and sit back, those of a soul base will make a hamock for a time out of booze or other such things decideing if they want to stay in hell or take the offer God extended through Christ, this may be the last forgiveness those recieve.

as it is written, after that the one called Faithful and True gets to unleash what God himself taught him to do to Satan, the one satan is jeoulous of is going to put his brothers flame out for good, no longer will he have to endure the pain of watching his brother do his evil deeds pleading with him, yet just as God said he will never ask for forgiveness he is empty, i have no anger towards satan, how can i, he is empty nothing to plead with, ive only pleaded with him knowing that those words also sifted through to those in his graspe:rolleyes:never said i wasnt kinda theifish just stole a few ears open.

oh i didnt mention ive been to heaven a few times this life without dying.
strange and well i know mentioning it kinda hurts my credibilty to some but maybe those are not the ones i care to entertain with truth.


not alien,

the alien thing im not to shure about, for one the room wasnt underground, but the underground transport was underground, it was the only way in and out,,,,,,,,,,,,of the rail car you walk into a kinda hall that for about 6 feat is open to the sky along with no wall on the left side, that is open, i can only remember a kinda gravel pit, then a door, a right down a hall, left down antoher hall then left , widows and natural light now, a door into a class room or meeting room, with windows on the left side,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh on the way down that last hall is a bathroom i believe, i had to go, we were not there as a security force but as kinda a class as well as exchange, when i got in the room the rest were dead, in the left far corner in the shadow along the back wall a movement, i found myself fogeting about my weopon and it became like a battle of wizards kinda thing, it was over as fast as it began and as silent, he evaporated, or burned up, i can feal the sick fealing the fear of what just happend,,,,,,,it hid in the shadows, what was its intent to kill the whole unit, what made me differnt, was it a set up, shit, i make it to the hall, looks like a battle took place, men running down the main hall, then silence, i try to make it back to the tram/railcar, next thing im in the front, now back, shaking and crying, the rescue team gives me space yet mumble about how im a cry baby, then all of a sudden im in the back or now front, im older and have a beard, it is grey white, i tell my team to stop there making fun of my younger self, you have no idea what that brave man has gone through, you have no idea what he is going to do.

programing i dont know, but the emotions are real when i try to bring up those memories.

so there is a bit more of it all as far as im willing to even consider excepting as real, still not there yet, can you blame me, after all do you believe all this.

[kimball13]

Warboys Lyrics

They were born with the knowledge of the struggle to survive
They were raised, learning only ways to stay alive
Their language is the language of the bullet and the gun
If you can see them coming, baby, better run

Here come the warboys
Here come the warboys

Well they look so pretty as they march and drill
It's such, a pity that they're dressed to kill
Soldiers marching two by two
When it all comes down they know exactly what to do

Here come the... war
[Warboys Lyrics On http://www.elyricsworld.com/ ]
Warboys, warboys, children and their toys
Warboys, warboys, make lot a noise
Warboys, when the lightning exlpodes
I pray for your soul

Hup, 2, 3, 4

Well they look so fierce they're gonna tear out your heart
When they get near we're gonna see what they got
Hold on to your soul, friend of mine
I'll see you in hell, some other time

Here come the boys

Helping to kill, those who deserve to die
Tell me who decides
You and I
We have the power

[kimball13]

i know allot of my posts seem a bit crazy.

it is difficult to explain some of it or to even speak of it in its enitrety.

i want to say, what ive written goes against allot of what i was taught is important, but to not speak would be going against why i was taught that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so a catch 22, no it is not because if it is secrecy that becomes the enemy then is time to break the silence to uphold the primary objective.

that and well, this guy steve broke silence, he posted a picture of John Macejunas, aka Hoot as depicted in the movie Black Hawk Down.

Hoot is three but realy only one, as in two imposters.

so go listen to the interveiw of Delta Steve then listen to the Timothy Mcveigh.

unsterstand this, Hackworth interveiwed Timothy at Waco, Hackworth was the formar Co of Delta,,,,,,,,,,,,,,when mcveigh speaks of an old man and son in a boat fishing as they were working on there truck bomb, i seem to remember it, watching them kinda trying to find out what was going down.

i remember how we had to be a bit faithfull and not be armed as that would raise alarms for Timothy and they would have well he state it in his interveiw about thinking he might have to kill the old man and son fishing at the lake.

ya, that is why im so pissed, think about it, i may have been able to stop the Oklahoma bombing if others didnt do what they did, or were they doing it to prevent me from stopping it from going down silently.
:eek:

is this also why they were confused and jumped to conclusions and thought i was he, crazy huh, im shorter, darker, talk differnt, ETfuckingC.

was it because i was on his trail that someone used that to say i was in the visinity of Mcveighs actions,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well duh if that is the case i was on.


as stated in BHD Daniel Bucsh dies, he survived the crash and is evacked bareley alive,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so there it is Bush death made up, bush not bush, bush mace, little mace number two, realy, think it was 90 that that name came about for me, it was written and on a list of choices.

so i picked the one that bast suit me:D.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21134540/vp/36640839#36640839

http://inquirer.philly.com/packages/somalia/biovideo.asp

Delta Steve, commando (interviewed in silhouette):
Delta Steve describes flying in for the raid
Delta Steve on finding the right building
Delta Steve on a commando's mindset
Delta Steve on staying alive in the target building
Delta Steve on the aftermath of the Super 61 crash
Delta Steve on battlefield ethics
Delta Steve used his gun methodically
Delta Steve: Crossing an intersection can be deadly
Delta Steve on staying alive in urban combat
Delta Steve got a nasty surprise when it came time to leave
Delta Steve on leaving the danger zone
Delta Steve explains why he thinks it was a great victory


mistakes happen, but to continue this is fucking crazy.

think about it, in this kinda stuff, if you have two groups, one tracking the other, both trained in the same things:eek:ya like that movie with john travolta Face Off,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just no face lift.

so that steve guy has spent time in Thailand, know pedo vacation spot, mentions he's insominiac, etc, all the ear marks of guilty.

so there it is,.

what realy was going on behind the scenes back in 1993.

so this time they made there move again, but this time the did get the towers like they tried last time.
:eek:does anyone realize how close we are to stopping this or it taking over, do you want to live in a society that rapes and murders children just because you dont like the words i choose,,,,,,,,,,,,well ask yourself if youve been going through this crap for this long and still are in the feild 16 years later, living off of 800. a mnth and trying to do what you can to complete the fucking mission.

man i get pissed when i think about them just thinking about there reputation,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh i dont want to be humiliated, oh my God.
wow, to bad, after all Beckwith got over the Iran rescue and sucked it up, so why no the rest of ya,,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh but excuse after excuse, dont listen to there pcycological mumbo jumbo and look at the facts for a moment.

[kimball13]

here is another one.


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/36633900/


im not an intelectual or highly edjucated, as i mention im better with raw data, handing it off, then reveiwing it in its finshed product.
this gives me a double vetting.

thing is ive had to do it all, im not perfect, so think of this, what if ive done the job of over 1800 people, and they decided for job security to keep me doing some out of just my nature while they use it and get paid.

DCIPS, napa payments and such check itout if you need to.


funny he talks about Vlad.

[kimball13]

now tell me how did they confuse the two, oh, because some knew he wasnt in prison, he was in another country, did they think i shrank, changed eye color, skin tone, hair color, now i wonder about internal organs.

funny Karen called me chicken some, Tim mentions how he was called chicken,,,,,,,,,no i was never called that but he was.

maybe Cock as in rooster,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,as in fc fc fk fk fuckoff,,,,,,,,,,,ya like a rooster crow:cool:


so there it is, who they confused me for.

i was in the prosses of stopping that from happening when Mog happend, hence why the ambush, why i could not state my suspicions,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,why i had a problem about the mission, heck its even depicted in the breifing before mission, go watch the movie.

Damit, there it is, honesty that i wanted to save for a real de-breifing not like this.

[epiceyjahouse]

Hey man I don't think your ribs are broken. They are connected to cartilage tissue and that's why it looks like they're broken on x-ray.

http://www.daviddarling.info/images/rib-cage.jpg

But it does look a bit wierd on your x-ray though, I'll give you that.
However, I don't doubt that you're chipped, I was told by a lady that her husband was also chiped and I really believe her. As for me, I have a scar on my right hand that I can't remember where it comes from.( I don't forget a cut!) I discovered the scar the morning after I had a sleeping paralysis where reptilians were in my room, think they actually did something to me. FYI they had a logo on their clothes, and well, laugh all you want people but there was a "V" on the logo! :eek:

Anyway, I feel bad for you going through all this crap, wish I could cheer you up or something. :( Just a question, why don't you have the implant removed?

[kimball13]

Hey man I don't think your ribs are broken. They are connected to cartilage tissue and that's why it looks like they're broken on x-ray.

http://www.daviddarling.info/images/rib-cage.jpg

But it does look a bit wierd on your x-ray though, I'll give you that.
However, I don't doubt that you're chipped, I was told by a lady that her husband was also chiped and I really believe her. As for me, I have a scar on my right hand that I can't remember where it comes from.( I don't forget a cut!) I discovered the scar the morning after I had a sleeping paralysis where reptilians were in my room, think they actually did something to me. FYI they had a logo on their clothes, and well, laugh all you want people but there was a "V" on the logo! :eek:

Anyway, I feel bad for you going through all this crap, wish I could cheer you up or something. :( Just a question, why don't you have the implant removed?

who does that, and why the alien slant.

i can put up the de-claisified darpa stuff.

but then the alien coverup slant is a good one.

still again why the alien slant.

why the feds screwing with me.

well i suppose you arent around me during my daily life.

it would be nice if it was aliens.

then killing them would not incure any charges, no jail time for killing an alien doing such things.

would be just like a wild animal in the house, right.

no this isnt aliens, that is why the wildlife kinda has my back.

ya, mountail lions, bears, etc, but then thats far fetched right and aliens is easy to believe:rolleyes:

[kimball13]

no not broken, just a question due to the non uniformity, the what looks to be chipped.

as i said im no doctor, and well i have other more pressing things on my mind.

have it removed before court, ya why not destroy the very evidence, makes sense huh.

[kimball13]

Hey man I don't think your ribs are broken. They are connected to cartilage tissue and that's why it looks like they're broken on x-ray.

http://www.daviddarling.info/images/rib-cage.jpg

But it does look a bit wierd on your x-ray though, I'll give you that.
However, I don't doubt that you're chipped, I was told by a lady that her husband was also chiped and I really believe her. As for me, I have a scar on my right hand that I can't remember where it comes from.( I don't forget a cut!) I discovered the scar the morning after I had a sleeping paralysis where reptilians were in my room, think they actually did something to me. FYI they had a logo on their clothes, and well, laugh all you want people but there was a "V" on the logo! :eek:

Anyway, I feel bad for you going through all this crap, wish I could cheer you up or something. :( Just a question, why don't you have the implant removed?

8 posts,

[kimball13]

so im wondering, where have i said anything about aliens putting that in.

or is it an effort to slowly steer me into that line of thought to discredit me.

well i do hope you know what type of people this has been done to and there ability's, so even if you know there coming not much can be done other than hope they see the surrender flag.

for clarity please read the links in the sig, i do hope those that choose truth take a look.
for those that just want drama dont bother.

[epiceyjahouse]

Wow dude you're really paranoid! Sorry haha. I just wanted to share some of my own experiences, perhaps it would be interesting to read I dunno? Not saying You had alien encounters too but you never know.. I've had alien encounters, both physical and non physical beings. I think they may have chipped me, but then again I havn't actually checked it yet as I don't suffer from it. I might just be completely crazy, HAHAHA! :p Anyway, I DON'T mean to steer you in any directions or anything like that, trust me. I'm just a random, piss poor, unemployed guy living in Sweden. :o


Edit: I'll read your signatures sometime, havn't been arsed to look at all the text yet but it sounds interesting. :)

[kimball13]

Wow dude you're really paranoid! Sorry haha. I just wanted to share some of my own experiences, perhaps it would be interesting to read I dunno? Not saying You had alien encounters too but you never know.. I've had alien encounters, both physical and non physical beings. I think they may have chipped me, but then again I havn't actually checked it yet as I don't suffer from it. I might just be completely crazy, HAHAHA! :p Anyway, I DON'T mean to steer you in any directions or anything like that, trust me. I'm just a random, piss poor, unemployed guy living in Sweden. :o


Edit: I'll read your signatures sometime, havn't been arsed to look at all the text yet but it sounds interesting. :)

no prob, but i realy am trying to save the human race, realy;)

funny when i put it that way, its so simple.

just so many in this world are victims of brainwashing and if you say it they get realy upset.
stear me no, ive had to deal with some realy pro's, i steared them.

na im not upset, i saw your post and it looked like an average post by a young person just out of highschool, maybet thinking of college.

or are you doing you two years, is it youse guys that have tthat manditory millitary service or civil servant thing.

[kimball13]

Wow dude you're really paranoid! Sorry haha. I just wanted to share some of my own experiences, perhaps it would be interesting to read I dunno? Not saying You had alien encounters too but you never know.. I've had alien encounters, both physical and non physical beings. I think they may have chipped me, but then again I havn't actually checked it yet as I don't suffer from it. I might just be completely crazy, HAHAHA! :p Anyway, I DON'T mean to steer you in any directions or anything like that, trust me. I'm just a random, piss poor, unemployed guy living in Sweden. :o


Edit: I'll read your signatures sometime, havn't been arsed to look at all the text yet but it sounds interesting. :)
pissed is not parranoid.

i wasnt going to rip into you, but the haha's well, maybe we will meet someday, i know people there, actualy guys that came here learned tracking and scouting and went back, .

would you like me to send you some peanut butter, i here you guys are into choclate like we are the peanut butter.

maybe you know House, as in american Habsburgs?

paranoid no, just honest as well as have had to deal with allot of very sick people that like to have fun poking and being cruel,,,,,,,,,,now what if a group decided they would weed out the inhuman persons on the planet and tag them, kinda like im tagged,,,,,,,,,my tag says that i am copasionate and an ermergency responce type, maybe thats all it is.
not paranoi just expereience that spending time explaining it to you may sound paranoid due to the levels of crap.

but then in sweden its realy bad aint it, or are all ya just set apart from us dumb americans,.

not that i havent heard judgements from visitors from sweden or france, nah not paranoid.


paranoia would have had me come at you with the house part of your name as well as hit on you sweden affilitation and how the two have played a role in my life;),,,,,,,,,,thanks for pointing those out to me by the way

[kimball13]

if anyone realy wants to be an activist or see change as Obama says he is about, send a request that kimball's case is looked into and i recieve help as soon as possible.

http://www.whitehouse.gov/contact


there is the link to the site, it is white house so if your not paranoid please i begg that some do something, i cant do it all, i hate begging.

[katy_sm]

Maybe you should start a blog & put it all in there & then link everyone to your forums. you have a lot to say & are limited here.

[aeroshaft]

funny, real funny,,,,,,,,,,tried that,,,,,,,,and well you do sound like some spec types or spy types ive trusted in the past to handle this do to the conditions ive had to heal in.

so realy, play matrix,,,,dont end up like kimball somewhere in hell,,,,,,,realy, i havvvvve heard every excuse.

ever hear of method acting, well maybe some of us can create a sane insanity to catch the sociopathic ones;)

Holy shit. HOLY SHIT.

You're a child in a movie land. Matrix, is a movie made for entertainment. It's a mindfuck because no one can disprove it, just like the so called theory of "God". You can't disprove or prove something that is only self-evident through a filtered reality.

A spy? What the hell? Spec types? Seriously, go through your posts and read what you type. See who you are, because I'm not sure any human in something remotely to a sane mind would be so convinced a movie is real. Control your mind you idiot. You can't have a "sane insanity" because that is called a paradox, something that cannot be. It's like saying the dry wet fields.

[kimball13]

Holy shit. HOLY SHIT.

You're a child in a movie land. Matrix, is a movie made for entertainment. It's a mindfuck because no one can disprove it, just like the so called theory of "God". You can't disprove or prove something that is only self-evident through a filtered reality.

A spy? What the hell? Spec types? Seriously, go through your posts and read what you type. See who you are, because I'm not sure any human in something remotely to a sane mind would be so convinced a movie is real. Control your mind you idiot. You can't have a "sane insanity" because that is called a paradox, something that cannot be. It's like saying the dry wet fields.

never said matrix was real, actual when it came out i dreaded it because i saw what was comming down the pipe due to the concepts involved, but then i thought Dark City was going be be a bit of a prob as far as Social influencing, .

But then you cant decide if God exists in your posts, you speak of parodoxes due to your fear of making a solid stance.

the only solid stance i have taken is my Faith, my experience, my medical proof, that dam chip, let me see what els, maybe it would do you good to go back and read them and put them into context.

or should i have requalified every post with all of the prevuose qualificaitions.
but then most of you are used to people doing this in there spare time.

oh and my last name. let me see, poverty, humiliation, torture, not to mention bowel incontinence for over 30 years.

Actualy i have a pretty good grasp of reality, is it that ive gone through more than most and that makes those that ride the victim bus to some social status being but hurt,.

if youve read this far, you took what i said out of context as i to have written poorly, there is an nother qualifier for you to savor.

what i was saying was a mind fuck matrix manipulation to stear a person into a chain of thought that only leads to confusion, now i suppose i should go back and see just what it is that i was commenting on, and then maybe ad abit.

misscomunications happen.

[kimball13]

Quote:
Originally Posted by the perfect one
IF YOU had a chip in you ,would you be completely un-phased by it? You've been in the deep huh? Prove it. I dont believe you at all. You just want to make everyone think Kimballs crazy. I'd be a little shook up too, if I had a chip in me. So, tell me....what's your story? How have YOU been in the deep? Got a link to this thread of your DEEP experiences? Inquiring minds would like to see this .

Stop playin the crazy card on him. He's been through a lot. If you truly had been in the deep-you would be more understanding.That's why I dont believe you.
I'm pretty sure he's trolling and what the hell? You all have this fantasy in your head like the world revolves around each of you. You being the something that the world needs, him being some sort of breed of some "intellectual" being and using movies and stuff to try and put an image in my head. He's watched too many fictional movies and you've bought everything he says. No doctor would leave an unknown piece of object in there. If it's a film, it wouldn't look like that, it would distort the x-ray. If you have no incision on the area you feel it, you could be like the few people this guy took the implant out on:


here is you quote to perfect ones responce, aeroshaft.
The thing is, I never disproved you or said you're crazy; rather you're acting insane by posting 2-5 times each time you post, spazzing out, etc..

I already said I don't know and I don't know how you feel man. What I do know is this universal law you're trying to protrude to apply to you and revolve around you isn't necessarily true unless you believe it to be. Stay chill my friend. You're a warrior, keep fighting the enemy. But sometimes, the so called enemy, uses your own mind against you and that is your strongest enemy, yourself. Fix that man, if you think you have an implant go to the media, use medical forms and documents to back up your letter and send it to the editor of a news company.



and there you have it, the context, so realy nice try to wait and then re-establish your divisive stance.
or is it another issue, have you tried to be something you are not and now you attack those that are, is that it.

is this an iferiority complex, maybe i could take time and pick your posts apart.

[kimball13]

Maybe you should start a blog & put it all in there & then link everyone to your forums. you have a lot to say & are limited here.

would be nice, but this was out of desparation as well as hiding in a herd kinda thing until i gained enough breathing room.

ive had to deal with many threats due to misunderstandings and confusion by some realy deadly types.

call them gangs, bikers, cops, feds, retired mill, etc.

im not to savy on this networking stuff.

did this as kinda insurance for myself and many others.

hard to explane it all, i kinda operate on faith as well as intuition.

so either i realy suck or im realy good at it, after all ive survived this long and prooved along the way that a hard life does not make a person violent or such.

[kimball13]

Holy shit. HOLY SHIT.

You're a child in a movie land. Matrix, is a movie made for entertainment. It's a mindfuck because no one can disprove it, just like the so called theory of "God". You can't disprove or prove something that is only self-evident through a filtered reality.

A spy? What the hell? Spec types? Seriously, go through your posts and read what you type. See who you are, because I'm not sure any human in something remotely to a sane mind would be so convinced a movie is real. Control your mind you idiot. You can't have a "sane insanity" because that is called a paradox, something that cannot be. It's like saying the dry wet fields.

by the way, i cant prove you exist at this moment can i.

have you read Quantum phycology, by robert anton wilson,,,,,,,,,,,,,might be good for you to read, it would give you the key to your train of thought, you just didnt follow it all the way.

by not proving either youve proven both, and if something is more than nothing then that means God does exist;) a per your logic:cool:

by the way if you halve something you can halve it infinatly.

there are no fractions or decimals in nature.

let me see,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ohhhhhhhhhhhhhhere is a good one Dark Matter is a low vibration hydrogen molecul. let me see i could go on.

wonder why i dont have a talk show, answer is simple, how can i give things to talk about and talk at the same time:rolleyes:

i dont plan on doing a DAvid Icke thing, i plan on finding or putting into effect the solutions as well as develope them.

grandiouse no not realy considering what they have used me for so far.

now if i can de-stress and recieve the assistance i shouldve had long ago maybe,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,nah no politicians going to help me,,,,,,,,,,,,ya the sex slaves are the only ones anyone wants to help, i wonder why.

[j35p3r4d0]

Mission in progress, Man!

[kimball13]

THIRD CHANCE
page 67 "Army researchers, as usual running about five year behind the CIA, became interested in the sustained use of LSD as interrogation device during 1961 field tests (called Operation THIRD CHANCE). The Army men tested the drug in Europe on nine foreigners and one American, a black soldier named James Thornwell, accused of stealing classified documents. While Thornwell was reacting to the drug under extremely stressful conditions, his captors threatened 'to extend the state indefinitely, even to a condition of permanent insanity."



way sweet.

redemption song, ya ya.

[noewhan]

if i knew how to put up the youtube vids i would.



Seriously?

1) go to youtube
2) create an account
3) go to your email and confirm
(similar to forum sign-up steps)
4) go to youtube and click on 'upload'
5) find the movie file you want
6) let it upload & sort it's crap out on YTs end
7) post the link in the forum :)

If all you have is images & music, I suggest getting some editing software. Or for now, use the one that comes with your computer. If you have Windows, it will be called Windows Movie Maker. Unsure about Mac.

The only way I learnt, was when I was much younger & I cashed many computers (only because I'd mess with system settings :P ). Good fun.

[kimball13]

i was wondering how people put a window on there post, a youtube or other video from a third party that is already up on youtube or other.

[kimball13]

this is the elaborate identity theft i mentioned.



this article pretty much sums up how well that FBI check stuff works, inside job well i would say so.

http://www.comcast.net/articles/news-national/20100526/US.Murdered.Boy_s.Identity/
Oregon mystery man used murdered Ohio boy's name


PORTLAND, Ore. — A boy killed during a kidnapping, a stolen identity and an enigmatic man.

Oregon's latest mystery isn't a whodunit — 3-year-old Jason Evers' killer is in jail. Instead, investigators and Jason's family are puzzling over the true identity of a man they say usurped the boy's name more than a dozen years ago, even using it to pass a police background check and get a state job.

The man is sitting behind bars, refusing to reveal his identity to a federal judge as he awaits a court hearing.

His fingerprints are not on file, and authorities say they don't know of any old friends or home videos. There's nothing of substance that's surfaced since his arrest in Idaho last month by federal agents who charged him with making a false statement on a passport application.

"He could be a good guy and it's just a misunderstanding," Amy Evers says. "But there has to be a reason why he has my brother's birth certificate."

All that's known for sure is the man who called himself Jason Robert Evers since at least 1996 is 5-foot-11, is in his 30s, has blue eyes, keeps his brown hair nearly shaved, was a liquor investigator and volunteer state advisory committee member, and doesn't talk about his past.

"Everyone here is just as shocked as the rest of the world is," says Christie Scott, spokeswoman for the Oregon Liquor Control Commission. "There were no indicators he was not who he said he was."

He worked as an OLCC investigator since 2002 and his former co-workers say he compiled a respected enforcement record before his arrest and ensuing resignation. The commission and the state police say background checks generally screen only for criminal history and rely on fingerprints.

The man was also able to serve on an advisory committee for the state Public Employees Retirement System board.

"He was our most engaged member," said Gay Lynn Bath, the state deferred compensation manager, noting he was not involved in any investment decisions or given any access to confidential information as a member of an advisory committee.

His public defender, Susan Russell, said at a hearing in federal court in Portland that he moved from Colorado to Oregon to be close to a surrogate grandmother, and ended up finding the OLCC job and making friends in the Bend area and in Nyssa on the Idaho border.

Connections to Colorado are hard to find.

A woman who recently bought a house in Denver where the man claiming to be Jason Evers had lived more than a decade ago got a knock on her door from federal agents just before a call from The Associated Press.

All she could offer was that she guessed the man had rented the basement from the elderly couple who had owned it.

Despite the limited public information about his background, authorities are piecing together a character sketch.

They say he may be from New Jersey or Washington, D.C., sporting an East Coast accent and able to speak "street type" Spanish. He may have grown up in a foster home and was a master chess player. His mother is likely dead and his father may be in prison.

But they haven't said in a U.S. State Department bulletin exactly how they were able to arrive at the profile.

Evers and the boy's father, Bob, have been following the case closely from their home in Ohio, where the real Jason Robert Evers was kidnapped and killed in 1982. They were preparing to attend a June 2 parole hearing for Adrian Williams, who was sentenced to a maximum of 50 years in Jason's death.

The appearance of a man police say is an impostor just before that Ohio hearing has deeply troubled both father and daughter.

"He's definitely not my son," Evers said in an interview from his Ohio home. "And I don't need somebody living my son's life."

For Amy Evers, like her father, the pain has never really gone away. But she also tries to deal with the feelings that only a big sister can suffer when she was the one looking out for her little brother, and the last to see him that summer of 1982.

"I hope he is a good guy, and he didn't do anything bad. But my brother is gone," she says. "All that was left of him was bones. And the fact that my brother didn't even have a chance to really live makes me really mad."

Federal agents say they discovered the man as part of a program the State Department's Diplomatic Security Service started in 2005 to expose impostors by checking state death records.

Now, like police and prosecutors, Amy Evers has lots of questions for the anonymous man.

She wonders how he could have gotten her brother's Social Security number and then a birth certificate in his name in 1996, if he was only a teenager himself then, and why he would suddenly walk away from his own life.

Evers asks if he could have grown up in the same Cincinnati neighborhood as her family, or whether he grew up somewhere else and just picked her brother's name at random. She's angry with him, she says, but mainly wants to know his reasons.

"What was always in the back of my head was, what did this guy do in the first place to want to change his name?"

Copyright 2010 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

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[tracker]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=48&pictureid=7070

base of skull, there is more detail to it but then i dont have a very high class scanner.


when I look at the picture ( avater of Kimball13 ) I can see a small rectangle object to the right of the picture just beneith the jaw .
but thats the avater

is that pic real Kimball13 ?


:cool:

[kimball13]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/image.php?u=18086&dateline=1272597638

yes it is real, the one you responded to is backwards, this is the way it should have been up, i just was in a rush.

it is real, i will try to repost one that you can see where the antena or whatever i coiled under it..

i must also say it is the realist ive seen on the net, sorry to say i have to be the one with it.

especialy when there are fanatics out there with crazy idea's and conspiracys of such things, almost got my head cut off back in 2001:eek:ya right after 911.

[kimball13]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=49&pictureid=7329

yes it is real i hope this opens up a new avenue on these things.

i pray this is being heard from those that might want to hear what a real one has lived as durring all this, it isnt all bad and well i would make the same choice now as a 39 year old as a 6 year old for the very reason i did then, to help others as well as blow the lid off of this type of human slavery that has happend, even if a mistake, it does not excuse the emotional, physical, mental and spiritual torture and abuse ive gone through, and what has kept me going is i will mak dam sure no other child or adult is every waterboarded to prepare for war, if i have to be what some may call a wargod then so be it.

there is more to this crazy story on other threads listed in my sig.
some of it is based on my perception and limited information ive had.

[kimball13]

For two decades or more during the Cold War, the CIA and the military allegedly plied the unwitting with acid, weed, and dozens of psychoactive drugs, in a series of zany (and sometimes dangerous) mind-control experiments. Now, the Vietnam Veterans of America are suing the agency and the Pentagon for perceived abuses suffered under the so-called "MK-ULTRA" and other projects.

Six veterans are suffering from all kinds of ailments tied to this
"diabolical and secret testing program," according to a statement from the vets’ lawyers, passed on to SpyTalk’s Jeff Stein.

The experiments allegedly included "the use of troops to test nerve gas, psychochemicals, and thousands of other toxic chemical or biological substances, and … the insertion of septal implants in the brains of subjects in … mind control experiments that went awry, leaving many civilian and military subjects with permanent disabilities." Subjects were tested without their consent, the veterans say. And when the trials were over, the government failed to "provide health care or compensation."




In a book published last year, former military psychiatrist James Ketchum describes an Army project — separate from the CIA’s efforts — that took place at Edgewood Arsenal in Maryland. There, he saw test subjects "carry on conversations with various invisible people for as long as 2-3 days." Others "salute latrines" and attempt to "revive a gas mask" that they mistake for a woman.

The feds insist that MK-ULTRA ended, when it was exposed during
Congressional hearings. But interest in chemical mind-control lives along, in some corners of the military-intelligence community. In a 2003 memo, then-Justice Department lawyer John C. Yoo suggesting that
interrogation drugs could be used if their effects were not permanent or profound. Since then, evidence has accumulated that some detainees may have been drugged. "It’s coming back," retired Colonel John Alexander told Sharon.



Read More http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2009/01/mkultra-lawsuit/#ixzz0pCkBKp10

[kimball13]

Military Investigates Amnesia Beams
By David Hambling October 30, 2008 | 11:37 am | Categories: Weapons and Ammo
A team of scientists from the United States and China announced last week that, for the first time, they had found a means of selectively and safely erasing memories in mice, using the signaling molecule ?CaMKII. It’s a big step forward, and one that will be of considerable interest to the military, which has devoted efforts to memory manipulation as a means of treating post-traumatic stress disorder. But some military research has moved in another direction entirely.

In the 1980s, researchers found that even low-level exposure to a beam of electrons caused rats to forget what had just happened to them (an effect known as retrograde amnesia — the other version, anteretrograde amnesia, is when you can’t form new memories). The same effect was also achieved with X-rays. The time factor was not large — it only caused memory loss about the previous four seconds — but the effect was intriguing.

One theory was that the amnesia was a result of the brilliant flash experienced when the electron beam struck the retina. And, indeed, it turned out that it is possible to produce amnesia in rodents using a flash of light:

Retrograde amnesia was demonstrated for the 80-, 85-, and 100-V foot-shock test trials. At 40 V the voltage may not have been great enough to be felt by the subject. For groups examined at shock levels above 100 V, the foot shock was so potent that a photoflash was ineffective in producing RA. Our conclusion was that the photoflash was an effective amnesiac until the intensity of the foot shock became more potent than the photoflash; this is consistent with the recency theory generated in serial learning and memory tasks.

This might help explain some of the disorienting effects of strobe lights used as nonlethal weapons, but there seems to have been little further research on this.

However, there have been plenty of studies on the physical effects of radio and microwave exposure on the brain. Many of those investigations have been conducted by the military.


The Air Force Research Laboratory’s Human Effectiveness Directorate has carried out its own experiments in this area, which did not confirm the results of earlier studies suggesting that microwaves could cause memory loss. (The report is now removed from the AFRL website, alas.) Most scientists chalk up such effects to heating. But the Directed Energy Bioeffects division continues to research the human effects of various forms of radiation. What’s more, a 2003 paper on microwave effects on the nervous system, from a team that includes Navy and Air Force scientists, states that
"research with isolated brain tissue has provided new results that do not seem to rely on thermal mechanisms." It is hard to assess the real effect on working memory and other brain functions, they add.

"The many exposure parameters such as frequency, orientation, modulation, power density, and duration of exposure make direct comparison of many experiments difficult…. It is concluded that the diverse methods and experimental designs as well as lack of replication of many seemingly important studies prevents formation of definite conclusions concerning hazardous nervous system health effects from RF [radio frequency] exposure."

Still, it’s interesting to see that the notes for a classified course run by the Directed Energy Professionals Society (the people who build laser and microwave weapons) include "memory loss" as a potential effect of such devices.

I doubt whether they have a functioning Men In Black-style
"Neuralizer." But as memory research continues to advance, it certainly starts to look like more of a possibility.



Read More http://www.wired.com/dangerroom/2008/10/air-forces-amne/#ixzz0pCkyeLPu

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V - Vertebral anomalies
A - Anal atresia
C - Cardiovascular anomalies
T - Tracheoesophageal fistula
E - Esophageal atresia
R - Renal (Kidney) and/or radial anomalies
L - Limb defects


just posting this as medical evidence as to the why's and hows,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,as in nuclear experiements, mutations, and my strange physiology.

i will explain in a bit, but to start they said i only had a 6% chance of surviving past puberty.

[kimball13]

why i posted that is to prove what is out there going on.

for example, the research on imune systems, brain functions, and such inclueding radio signals and heat sources.

when i was about 27 i came down with chicken pox, a fever of 106, the second or third time withing a year having a fever, the previouse ones were from my surgery being infected as it was basicilby my lower extremetys that had surgical wounds that would get infected.

The chicken pox were cleared up withing a weak, even quiker than a child which is unheard of for an adult.

another example is around 1994 i was bitten durring the nighttime for 6 nights in a row by a brown recluse, then i saw him and told him if he bit me again i would kill him, i was taken to the ER because i was in an acohol treatment center and they needed to have the doctor check me out because the bite sites did show slight signs of a brown recluse bite but healed quikly, my blood showed the venom.

another reason i didnt mention is the connections of the maternal side to other goverments, and nazi's possibly, and mafia.

this is why ive spent most of my time putting a bit of what looks like an unassociated thing and story up on this thread, as ive mentioned i have a high level of abstract reasoning, so i will put up the definition of that then i will put up the connections, im sure the secret service will enjoy reading it, i tried to say without going so public, but it would apear as if this is the solution that God sees fit to use so here it goes.

Abstract reasoning tests your ability to identify patterns presented in diagrammatic form and thus not dependent on learned verbal or numerical modes. These are said to test fluid intelligence including the ability to learn innovative or new information.

Reliable and reputable tests will offer some sample questions with answers, and then some practice questions to which answers will also be furnished. Here are some questions which are typical of the sorts of questions you might be asked. In an actual test, they would be timed. Remember Abstract Reasoning tests demonstrate your fluid intelligence and ability to learn new things quickly.


Croatia was allied with nazi germany.
my great grandfather was from there and died before age fifty.
great grandmother mentioned how they went to argentina every summer for vacation. mentioned he hated it.
grandfather worked on first drone aircraft in NM or Arizona i forget, A-bomb deliverie systems type stuff.

extended family are some secret service for yogoslavia, Venezuela politicians.
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story's of watching tests and ambulances racing out to collect manquins from crashed aircraft, they usded crash test dummies to make it look like a training exercise crash if anyone saw the wreck.

he was so gifted they would not let him go over sea's to fight, instead they insisted he go to whatever that place was.

he and i spent allot of time together, i wonder why now, was it because he saw me as a solution to this insanity or was he an evil man, i wonder now, but i do remember how he was so upset and unhappy untill a few years before his death, maybe it was because i was making headway,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i remember one day i asked him why he didnt care about saving the whales, his said because he would not out live them, and the way its going it doesnt make a differnce,,,,,,,,,so i turned what he said into a positive,,,,,,,,,but i understood why he felt that way, he was a very intelligent man, very intelegent, maybe that is why my uncle was so jeolouse because of the conversations me and my grandfather would have.

oh i decided to save a human and the whole whale thing would fall into place if mankind found a harmonious path for all and if it was to protect and promote life force, or Ki energy then it must fall in place with God, because God did not create death and suffering;),.

but this all coincides with the king arthur coverup thread, makes sense that they would try to make me hate there enemy's if they could,

then the other thing about the Nazi's is the King Arthur fixation that hitler had and the family line of kimball is directly descendant of Pendragon the real ones.

[kimball13]

fuck this is hard watching kelli Van Cleave, it brings up my own torture, but that is not what hurts.

what hurts is how long ive shouted about this, fighting for my life and sanity.

he speaks of 37 women he took, a perfect record not even traffic ticket.

DAvid Parker Ray, whats the epasode called the toy box.

alright, i should calm down.

so that is one, now im sure by now at least some of those 1860 people involved in messing me up realize what they have involved themselves in, what kinda investigator i am for the Millitary, why social influencing and other such things are in my head.

or is there that many out there, is this guy one of them, or one of the ring leaders.

after all he has a spotless record, and i have a life of hardship and drunkeness, so who would you listen to, so i dont blame those that thought they were helping to contain what they thought i was, but now common by now its obviouse what they did and why they did it to me, not because of me, but because they are sick evil satanists and im the one that can and will destroy them.

[kimball13]

just as i said in the past, famlys are involved,.

Rays daughter was one of his accomplices.

i wonder if this guy has ties to medocino.

[kimball13]

in his torture chamber a sign says Satans Den, well that should say in a plain way that satanism is not good at all for anyone.

[kimball13]

David Parker Ray tortured and presumably killed his victims in a $100,000 homemade torture chamber he called his "toy box",[1] which was equipped with what he referred to as his "friends": whips, chains, pulleys, straps, clamps, leg spreader bars, and surgical blades and saws.[1] With these tools it's thought that he terrorized Truth or Consequences for several years with the added assistance of multiple accomplices.
“
Ray was thought to be the center of a web of sadism, sex slavery and murder. His accused disciple, drifter Dennis Roy Yancy, confessed to strangling to death Marie Parker, 22, while Ray took photos. Ray's daughter [Glenda Jean "Jesse" Ray] was convicted of kidnapping Kelly Van Cleve. Cyndy Hendy, Ray's live-in girlfriend, was known to the victims as "mistress". Hendy later told authorities that Ray had killed 14 women." Hendy confessed and supplied testimony against Ray for a lighter sentence, instead of the 14 Felonies, she only got 5 charges." (from Slow Death by Jim Fielder)
”
Inside the torture room, along with numerous sex toys, torture implements, and detailed diagrams (made by Ray himself) showing different methods and techniques for inflicting pain, there was an electronic generating device that was used in torture, as well as a 12-volt motorized breast stretcher. Ray would often have a recorded audio tape of himself be played for his victims whenever they regained consciousness. It has been said that Ray had been recorded as saying he killed at least one person a year for 40 years. However, those statements are considered only speculation by the police, since no evidence has been discovered to support them so far.

[kimball13]

well here is post 1,861 on memorial day.

so im going to post a picture of a gift or something ive noticed, something i noticed that day, as well as the picture taker did.

look at my hands, and also the dog, its not magic, doesnt matter what i do its a kinda effect, pherimones i dont know, might be, or more.

but also why the 1,861, welll that is one more that the 1,860 as in the number of those that were trying to keep me in a state of not remembering who and what i am.

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=48&pictureid=3372

even then, left hand open, right hand in a fist when facing an unknown, well he was jumping around barking and shit then when i got like that he kinda did that.

[kimball13]

i knew he had to show up soon, my double that is.

he's been spotted, at least i think its a he.


two days in a row ive heard of the other guy.
similar car as well as dress.

he was pulled over, car searched, bags of weed taken out of it, then cuffed and stuffed.

yesterday im stopped by someone that didnt beleive me when i told them no i wasnt pulled over no i dont have a dog, and well i dont do illegal things for obvious reasons.
the reason they stopped me is they saw my look alike passing by in a car, he even yelled her name out of the window, then she saw me walking seconds later on the other side of the street, she ran over and said i beieve you now about the double thing.:cool:

finnaly, imagine surviving 8 years in a very volitile comunity as far as who's side are you on.

goe's along with growing comunity's, and the culture around here is very susiciouse and deadly.
im sure some have heard of Mendocino, it is a nice place but it ihas its dangerouse side that was sent at me due to this double i would assume.

i might be fast but i cant be in two places at once.

i just wonder how much of a double this guy is.

oh that chip im pretty sure if he has one there is a differnce, in not just its location but also type and other such things.

like i mentioned before an elaborate case of identity theft.

as ive said and felt, im the one trying to save your lives and make it better, the other one is the real enemy doing the things you have been elludeing to and out right saying some very bad things some suspeted me of.:(

and as ive said, i understand, i can see how so many could be fooled.
heck i thought well, if they can fool me how would i do it:eek:

my job was/is a very high form of CT and HR.
so i have to be able to follow there trail, or be wise as a serpent, or some call it think like they do,. a spiritual form is the best way to explain it, a kinda exorcist.


any profiler or phoresics pcycologist worth there salt has to be able to see the evil without becomeing it, not as a desensitization thing but when something is all messed up to be able to look at it and think like the one that caused it to occur, i gues im so good at it that it was easy to make it look like i had fallen into the abys, so to speak.

has to do with abstract reasoning.

oh one more thing is for some reason my gifts are most effective at protecting the inocent, it is difficult to temper it and not just bark at someone going down a very dark path.

it is america and people make there choices, but they should know the consequences and it usually involves someone just like me hunting it down.

like happend on 911, as compared to certain elements in defence thought it to be part of training exorcise.
Bush did not know, but he did know something went realy bad and wrong, that is why his delay, he also knew that the people in comand positions knew how to hadle it, or shouldve, blame ya everyone, some more than others, but then there are also those that are accountable, responsible and guilty.

so imagine the headache ive dealt with, used as a training tool by just maybe those that did this.

for an example of the type of torture i have gone through and untold others, imagine for a minute what im talking of.

here is a story i just saw on msnbc the other night.

this is the first i saw of this story.

the other night.



David Parker Ray (November 6, 1939 - May 28, 2002) was an American serial killer and torturer of women suspected by police to have murdered as many as 60 people in the city of Truth or Consequences, New Mexico. He is commonly known as the Toy-Box Killer.
David Parker Ray tortured and presumably killed his victims in a $100,000 homemade torture chamber he called his "toy box",[1] which was equipped with what he referred to as his "friends": whips, chains, pulleys, straps, clamps, leg spreader bars, and surgical blades and saws.[1] With these tools it's thought that he terrorized Truth or Consequences for several years with the added assistance of multiple accomplices.
“
Ray was thought to be the center of a web of sadism, sex slavery and murder. His accused disciple, drifter Dennis Roy Yancy, confessed to strangling to death Marie Parker, 22, while Ray took photos. Ray's daughter [Glenda Jean "Jesse" Ray] was convicted of kidnapping Kelly Van Cleve. Cyndy Hendy, Ray's live-in girlfriend, was known to the victims as "mistress". Hendy later told authorities that Ray had killed 14 women." Hendy confessed and supplied testimony against Ray for a lighter sentence, instead of the 14 Felonies, she only got 5 charges." (from Slow Death by Jim Fielder)
”
Inside the torture room, along with numerous sex toys, torture implements, and detailed diagrams (made by Ray himself) showing different methods and techniques for inflicting pain, there was an electronic generating device that was used in torture, as well as a 12-volt motorized breast stretcher. Ray would often have a recorded audio tape of himself be played for his victims whenever they regained consciousness. It has been said that Ray had been recorded as saying he killed at least one person a year for 40 years. However, those statements are considered only speculation by the police, since no evidence has been discovered to support them so far.







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http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_m47RlRiYoAg/SZvXFf2USrI/AAAAAAAABzA/jT0WXzTP4Uk/s400/the.sex.chamber.ws.pdtv.xvid-remax6.jpg

http://1.bp.blogspot.com/_m47RlRiYoAg/SZvXUHOrf-I/AAAAAAAABzI/UWcr6Us8HXI/s400/the.sex.chamber.ws.pdtv.xvid-remax5.jpg

This was Ray's "toy box" or "Satan's Den", as he named it. There seemed little doubt that Cynthia Vigil's story of sexual degradation was true. "She was his sex slave when they entered this trailer," says Agent Norman Rhoades of the state police.

Trinkets hidden in the room raised the likelihood that other women had suffered a similar fate. "The consensus was pretty clear that there were going to be more victims," says Captain Rich Libicer.

This suspicion was confirmed when police found a videotape containing footage of another of Ray's victims strapped to the chair. The woman, apparently drugged or unconscious, could only be identified by a tattoo on her leg. When the tattoo was circulated in the media, a woman came forward to identify herself as the victim. Kelly Van Cleave said she had no memory of her abduction, but had been tormented by nightmares of being tied down and tortured. "When the FBI called, then I knew they weren't just dreams," she recalls.

Questioned by police, Kelly found some of her memories returning. It was clear that she had been drugged by her captor to prevent her from remembering the trauma. The use of sedatives also explained why more women had not come forward to testify against Ray.

More chilling evidence soon emerged in the form of a tape recording made by Ray in which he explained to his victims what he was about to do to them. On the tape, he claimed to have abducted some 37 women - leading police to believe that many of them may be dead.
http://uk-tv-guide.com/pick-of-the-day/13+November+2008/documentary-the-sex-chamber-welcome-to-satans-den/

oh a picture of the evil.

http://i3.digiguide.com/up/0810/tn-1226613600-672704-TheSexCh-12253785400.jpg

so is that why they always ask do you have proof, well ya, admissable in a regular court maybe not, but just maybe lets say Maritime or Millitary, hows bout World, did they dismiss the testomony of those victims of the holocost because of the possible effect on there perceptions by malnutrition.

they were looking throught the eyes of prisoners of war they dont know who did it.

kinda explanes why they thought i was the bad one.
just as im confused on some things about who did what im sure they have there confusions also.


here is another troubling part of this all, what were victims become perps at some point due to hopelessness and well it begins to look normal and accepted after it is spoken about and help sought.

so please read, and yes there are some false acusations in the world but common, this guy was killing at least one a year for forty years, that was the same year i was born, so that means by 1986 there were at min 16 of them so, his torture room and other items must have been somewhere.


like i say, fbi sucks:p.maybe not all of them, but that group started as a blackmail tool to be used against the powerfull if neaded.
but that is another story all together.

tax fraud when they cant catch you:rolleyes:

Jessy Ray goes free

Sentenced to five years of probation

By Bill Johnson of the Desert Journal

Glenda Jean “Jessy” Ray is free with five years of probation ordered for her role in the July 1996 kidnapping of a young woman who her infamous father, David Parker Ray, then raped and sexually tortured for three days.

She had faced 150 years in prison but multiple counts of rape and other charges were dropped.

The prosecution argued that Jessy Ray, 34, delivered to her father, deemed by the FBI to be a criminal sexual sadist, a young woman, Kelly Van Cleave, for his sexual torture pleasure while keeping her unconscious with drugs. All other charges, including several counts of criminal sexual penetration, have been dismissed for Jessy Ray.

It was the videotape of a tattoo on Van Cleave’s leg that would lead police to the victim, then living in Colorado, in the wake of the spring 1999 investigation of the Rays and company, all who now hang their heads with serious felony convictions including murder for Dennis Roy Yancy, and the seizure of more than a thousand pieces of evidence from David Ray’s home on Bass Road in Elephant Butte Lake State Park, where Ray also worked as a mechanic.

Many friends of Jessy Ray said they thought she would get off easy because she had reported her father’s activities to the FBI at least 13 years prior to the 1999 investigation. And some have viewed her as being a victim herself although the truth has yet to be confirmed.

“Jessy Ray actually reported to the FBI her father’s activities in 1986. The case of the alleged sexual abuse and slavery of young women and girls was investigated by the FBI in 1986 and 1987 and closed because of insufficient evidence,” said Deputy District Attorney Jim Yontz, prosecutor on the trail of torture case for nearly the last two and a half years, “and because they found no victim.”

http://www.desertjournalonline.com/2001archive/9-21-01%20Headliners.htm#2


this is why i started posting, even though i sounded nuts.
even though i dont write well due to lack of schooling as well as torture.

for me it started early, but some of the stuff is the same.
for me it was done for other reasons when i was a child, water boarding and such, then the medical procedures.

but what was done in that barber chair, or well it wasnt a barber chair but it was shipped as one, a moddified one with electricity.

a bit like this.


http://cdn-images.hollywood.com/cms/500X625/5391116.jpg

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The woman, apparently drugged or unconscious, could only be identified by a tattoo on her leg. When the tattoo was circulated in the media, a woman came forward to identify herself as the victim. Kelly Van Cleave said she had no memory of her abduction, but had been tormented by nightmares of being tied down and tortured. "When the FBI called, then I knew they weren't just dreams," she recalls.

Questioned by police, Kelly found some of her memories returning. It was clear that she had been drugged by her captor to prevent her from remembering the trauma. The use of sedatives also explained why more women had not come forward to testify against Ray.
This article provides some pretty clear evidence for the memory compartmentalization that happens during traumatic incidents. I recently remembered having experienced a minor memory loss while at the scene of a murder. My friend Julia and I had been hanging with two crazy redneck gutter punks who had hauled off and started spontaneously stabbing these two back guys for pretty much no reason. (he did not give them a cigarette when asked). We ran to call the police and, up until recently, the last thing I remembered was being separated from Julia to give a statement to the officers about what I saw. Well, a few months ago I got a call from Julia, who wanted to talk about how she had been affected by what we witnessed. She mentioned watching the man who got stabbed getting stuffed into a body bag and only then did I begin to remember it. I have known Julia for over 10 years now and have not known her to be a compulsive liar or anything like that. In fact, I distinctly remember telling someone that we had been present at the scene of a murder and that was quite a long time ago. So the memory of the body bag must have been real, and my subconscious edited it out because it was too difficult to process.
I had felt extremely guilty at that time for not having done anything more effective to intervene in the attack, so perhaps this is part of the reason for the memory edit. This is one of only two periods where I seem to have "missing" or altered memories, and I can imagine that if a toddler was exposed to extreme violence then the amnesia would be a great deal more pronounced.


for me it started early, but some of the stuff is the same.
for me it was done for other reasons when i was a child, water boarding and such, then the medical procedures.but what was done in that barber chair, or well it wasnt a barber chair but it was shipped as one, a moddified one with electricity.

a bit like this.


http://cdn-images.hollywood.com/cms/500X625/5391116.jpg



May I ask where these procedures were done and for what alleged purpose?

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strange, you ask.

i was looking up some family stuff about teddie roosevelt, sitting bull, and war eagle.

and decided to take a gander at Fools crow, a spiritual leader similar to what i was taught and took to as if i was was part of the tribe, yet did not have the cultural upbringing of the reservation, so a bit of confusion wold be normal, because a reservation is not a natural state for a native american.

here is the page, and on it strange because way differnt tribe, but it is the tribe of a grandmother on patriarchal side. (family secret she shared with me, because i was learning of the path anyways)and grandpa gave his blessings)




http://www.powersource.com/gallery/people/default.html#fccctsHistorical People of Power

Fools Crow - Ceremonial Chief - Teton Sioux

Frank Fools Crow has had many exceptional things written about his profound love and concern for all races. It was his fervent wish to share his profund gifts with as many as he could reach. "Survival of the world depends on our sharing what we have, and working together. If we don't the whole world will die. First the planet, and next the people." Then he continues, "The ones who complain and talk the most about giving away Medicine Secrets, are always those who know the least." He had little time for anyone who attempted to keep blessings for themselves.

Fools Crow agreed with Black Elk when he said, "I cured with the power that came through me. Of course, it was not I who cured, it was the power from the Outer World, the visions and the ceremonies had only made me like a hole through which the power could come to the two leggeds. If I thought that I was doing it myself, the hole would close up and no power could come through. Then everything I could do would be foolish." He believed that the Higher Powers taught that this healing power comes in and through a person first to make us what we should be, and then flows through us and out to others.

In his becoming a hollow bone, Fools Crow believed that he went through four stages.

First, he called in Wakan Tanka to rid themselves of everything about them that would get in the way, such as doubt, questions or reluctance.
Then he recognized himself as a clean vessel or tube, ready to be filled with hope, possibilities, and anxious to be filled with power.
He experienced the power as it came surging into him.
Finally, giving power away to others, knowing that as they are emptied out, the Higher Powers will keep filling them with even greater power to be given away.
There is no consensus among Native Americans or outside observers regarding the definition of power, but the general view seems to be that power comes initially from a supernatural source or sources, and that it is best described as an astounding and electric like energy that pervades the universe. Power is present everywhere, in ever varying degrees in everything. This power exists in everything so that it can justifiably be said that each of us is, in a sense, part of this power. Fools Crow expressed the idea that it was his belief in this power, which he recognized as an entity, that made his communication more effective. In order to prepare for receiving and using the power, he performed a simple, yet powerful, prayer/ceremony.

With his eyes closed, he began to pull with both hands at his chest and abdomen as if he were pulling out evil, negative things or stumbling blocks. He grabbed many handfuls, and threw away what he had gathered.
He clutched at the air above him, where he seized unseen things in his head and body.
Finally, he started to pull invisible things out of his chest and body, holding both hands side by side in front of him and threw what he was clutching out into an invisible audience.
As he sang a "sound song" to the Higher Powers, he became like a clean new hollow bone.
He prepared for any spiritual or healing act by this simple ceremony. He taught that the cleaner the bone, the more powerful the healing. Medicine People do what they do for their community and nation. "We are called to become hollow bones for our people, and anyone else we can help. We are not supposed to seek power for our personal use and honor. What we bones really become is the pipeline that connects Wakan Tanka, the helpers and the community together. This tells us the direction our curing and healing work must follow, and establishes the kind of life we must live.We have to be strong and committed, otherwise we will get very little spiritual power and will probably give up the curing and healing work. The lessons we are taught by our human teachers, as Stirrup was for me, stressed that the traditional way of performing a ritual is more important than curing someone. Curing a single individual is only important in terms of what this teaches the entire community. This community must continue to know that Wakan Tanka, and the Helpers are always with it, and that it need no be afraid.
Seeing a person healed gives them this assurance, and it gives the community strength to carry on in the face of distress and disasters. So the Medicine Person sits at the center of every important thing that goes on in their community and nation, and when power is set in motion and distributed, it brings us more and even greater power. We emphasize that prevention is more important than treatment where the community and individuals are concerned. Getting ready in advance may not prevent our being hurt, but it keeps us from being destroyed. It is unfortunate, but our people have begun to forget this, and they are paying a tragic price for it. They get knocked down and they do not have the strength or the way to get up."

In summary, Fools Crow was taught that while we are each given natural power at birth, we are also surrounded by spiritual or supernatural power. This spiritual knowledge includes the knowledge needed to obtain power and to set it in motion. If we wish to go beyond the natural power we were born with, we must entrust ourselves to Wakan Tanka, Grandmother Earth, and the Spirits of the Four Directions (Helpers) and then call in spiritual power from them. When we have made contact, we can ask them to send to us their individual spiritual powers to be added to our natural powers. We then receive the knowledge we need to understand what we have been given and the directions for changing this power into motion.

The procedure for receiving power is:

Purification.
Becoming a clean tube for the Higher Powers to work in.
Using focusing tools to walk the Ancient pathways where we will find guidance in ways to achieve goals.
Dispensing this power to others.
As all of this is done, we enter into a special reciprocal relationship with our community. By sharing this power everyone is cared for. "Anyone who is willing to live the life that I have led, can do the things that I can do." If the prophecies are right, making our communities a place of cooperation and communication with the Higher Powers may be critical to our survival. For more information: Fools Crow, by Thomas Mails and Secret Native American Pathways also by Thomas Mails.
Historical People of Power

Cochise - Chiricahua - Apache Chief

Pictured is Cochise's youngest son Naiche, said to look like his father, taken by Frank Randall in 1884.
Not a lot is known about Cochise's descendants except to say that he was the descendent of a long line of chiefs and was rasied to follow in their footsteps. Although Apache leaders did not inherit their positions, but rather earned them by demonstrating their abilities and influencing others, the son of a great chief was treated specially and had a good chance to become a leader himself. Ceremonies and rituals accompanied every stage of an Apache's life - from birth to death. When Cochise was about 4 days old (a magic number to the Apaches), a shaman, or Medicine Man, would have constructed a special cradle for him known as a "tosch" and attached a bag of pollen or the claw of a hummingbird to protect him from evil forces. When he learned to walk, another ceremony would celebrate his first pair of moccasins, and the following spring a ritual would have been made of his first haircut. Each of these events and hundreds of others were social occasions as they were part of the Apache religion, with feasting, dancing and much singing.

Cochise was taught Apache religious beliefs as soon as he was able to understand them. Through stories told by his parents, he came to know the Apache God, Usen, The White Painted Woman, Child of the Water, The Mountain Spirits, and the force called Power that raged before the universe was contained in all things.

Power was in everything, but it was also possible for Usen to award a gift of Power to an individual, giving him special skills and foresight. Cochise received many gifts of Power, and the Apaches believed that it was these gifts that allowed him to be a successful warrior and leader.

The Apaches believed in many kinds of Power - some good and some bad - and felt that these forces were in constant conflict. This idea explained the enemies in their life and the need to struggle to survive in a region that although very beautiful, presented constant challenges.

Kind beings known as Mountain Spirits were thought to have lived in the caves on Cochise's homeland. The Apaches believed that these spirits were very special protectors and could help with important ceremonies. Any undertaking would be much less prosperous without their assistance. Thus, the Apaches felt a strong connection to their home mountains. To leave them meant to be without the Mountian Spirits.

Although the Apaches stayed near the Mountain Spirits, they moved around quiet often within their home territory. The women packed their belongings and each time they stopped, they built a wickiup - a small dome shaped hut covered with brush or animal hides. Apache women were responsible for most of the daily chores. Although Cochise would not be expected to cook or clean as an adult, working with his mother during his childhood taught him a valuable lesson. He learned never to take a woman's contribution to the family for granted.

Cochise no doubt was taught the importance of strict mental and physical discipline, as were the other Apache children as their lives often depended on it. In time, Cochise memorized every rock, tree, and hole in Chiricahua territory. He developed patience and self-control by stalking deer, the skin of which was of great value to the Apaches, but which was a most difficult animal to hunt. Sometimes when a heard of deer would be grazing in the open, a warrior would be forced to spend hours crawling on the ground behind weeds to get close enough to it. Although this kind of hunting could be frustrating, it helped Cochise develop stealth, which would come in handy on raids.

When he was 17 or 18, he became a "dikohe" or apprentice warrior, and was given a different name. He was called Goci, later spelled Cochise. The Apaches were taught that "counting coup" or stealing stealthily, was a better way to let your enemies know that you had the upper hand, rather than killing which would no doubt lead to retaliation and more bloodshed. Over the course of his dealings with both the Mexicans and the Americans, he would steal horses from under the noses of his enemies, adding to his reputation as a man of much power. It was only after his family and his nation had suffered many casualties, that his raids turned to revenge, and even then, Cochise was known to return many horses stolen by renegade Apaches when he had not approved of their actions. Throughout his life his incredible skills as a warrior inspired respect from his people and terror in his enemies, but friends and Indians alike believed him to be an honest man.

In the end, Cochise's skill as a diplomat helped his people retain the lands they so cherished. Many have said that he was the most powerful Apache leader in history. At his death, it was reported that his people wailed loudly for more than a day. After his death, the Government broke the historic treaty made with Cochise and moved the Chiricahua from the ancient mountain homeland to the hot, flat, dry, Arizona desert. Many refused to go, and after their defeat, were sent to prison in Florida or died in Oklahoma of tuberculosis or other diseases. For most of the Chiricahua, the day they left the reservation was the last time they saw their homeland. For more information: Cochise by Howard White, Professor of History, Pepperdine University.

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the reasons why it wsa done is that simple realy, it is more spiritual than secrets of national security and super soldier stuff.

but then Men Who STare at Goats does play a part in this.

and after looking into my heritage and strange things that happen around me it is pretty obviouse to me, now the problem is i for some reason dont even consider capatalizing on it, simply put i cant force anyone to do anything, but my not being asked is part of the problem, oh but then what do i want well strange because i cant say, weird huh, well maybe its because i geneticaly cant put a price tag on it.

just for a moment imagine if you had the incarnation of lets say Rama in the body of a long line of other things, and he had dreams and insights to things that men like those in groups spoken of in the movie men who stare at goats and such.

now that boy finds himself living in an area that satanists live as well as jim jones had just left a couple years before.
and more catastrophies he leaves and comes back because the woman that raised him lives there and his siblings.

as time goes on he finds those around him are from familys like those in bloodline conspiracys but there the criminal element and such.

example this area has the largest per capita of inventors.

oh ya it would be easy to steal things such as intelectual rights and such from a child and then condition him to give without thought of himself, or is that just my nature.
that is what drives me a bit loopy, i am not capable of making a living at stuff that others make millions, take a look at some of them out there, now how is it that a non-edjucated person such as myself knows allot of this stuff, but uses differnt words, maybe because i said it, they re-worded it and packaged and sold it.

Now the other reason is simple also, a demon hunter might be a threat to people like Parker Ray.

i say demon hunter because i dont know what else to call it realy, due to the broad spectrum of stuff involved yet it all still boils down to spiritual warfare.


someone a former skull and bones member said to me, oh former probley not.
but anyways he says his higher ups, those allot higher up than he are very fearfull of me, a bit paralyzed other than pokes at me through a long chain.

i may be a bit more than a demon hunter in this all.

my birth, and other such things, mark on thigh, its all distrubing.
one thing i knew for sure though is im not Jesus, and that the rider on the white horse called faithfull and true is not jesus but his champion, Christ's attack dog so to say, or General:eek:
reason why i mention this is it almost got my head cut off, the ones attacking would always say something illluding to the one on the white horse(not pale),,,,,,and when i would find a place to ask them who is the one that rides the white horse, they would always say he is the anti-christ, that is when i knew how messed up allot of peoples heads were.

it actualy says he is the one that destroys satan and his evil horde, even say's that his everything is given from above, not below.

So because of dreams of Rama as a boy, because of birthmarks, because of lifes hardships and how i was somehow able to remain healthy and sane, as well as exelled.

now think of also how its said i would be surrounded by my enemy's and would find vicotory.

then Rama's incarnation is the same story of the Rider on the White horse.
he is called Kalki, it is Vedic.

Ive spent 8 years finding out why i was being attacked by people that shouldve known better, such as people ive read the bible with and studied it with, even sundanced with and vision quests camps.
Men who's body of knowledge as well as experiences and visions were so fooled realy kinda freaked me out, so i had to find out what i missed, why and where was this comming from, who did they think i am or my family.

then all the trails illuding to satanism, yet those involved were never kimballs but others, and it became clearer that for some reason it looked like this was put into motion before my birth.

alright, i need to slow down on this, my keyboard has a hard time keeping up realy.

[venusinpisces]

alright, i need to slow down on this, my keyboard has a hard time keeping up realy.
I would imagine so! :eek:

[kimball13]

even if i was on purpose as a genetic breeding program, the ethnicities and familys all have an inate drive to protect and unite there people as well as live in peace with neighbors, yet are very fomindable as an enemy even when with only a stick against an m-16;)

if you look into how and what our special forces are trained in you will find my ansestory, all of it,.

now put that with a possible reincarnation of a Vedic figure said to come back as Kalki destroyer of death and confusion, when compared to the christian rider of white horse it is the same story and mission, simple explanation is God did not create Death and Lie's, so because it is not God's creation it can be destroyed completely.

maybe that is what some fear, they dont understand how that would take shape.
maybe they feared if i was asked openly some things to clarifie, or just let me go around following my own nose, but no the would rather have a Queen not of even royal blood, or a chief of very ill repute that sides with a man that was found destroying native american oral traditions and such, includeing plagerism and other such things, includeing calling all the victims of 911 little Eichmans:mad:


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Ward LeRoy Churchill (born October 2, 1947) is an American writer and political activist. He was a professor of ethnic studies at the University of Colorado at Boulder from 1990 to 2007. The primary focus of his work is on the historical treatment of political dissenters and Native Americans by the United States (US) government. His work features controversial and provocative claims, written in a direct – often confrontational – style.
In January 2005, Churchill's work attracted publicity because of the widespread circulation of a 2001 essay, "On the Justice of Roosting Chickens". In the essay, he claimed that the September 11, 2001 attacks were a natural and unavoidable consequence of what he views as unlawful US policy, and he referred to the "technocratic corps" working in the World Trade Center as "little Eichmanns".[1]
In March 2005 the University of Colorado began investigating allegations that Churchill had engaged in research misconduct; it reported in June 2006 that he had done so.[2] Churchill was fired on July 24, 2007,[3] leading to a claim by some scholars that he was fired over the ideas he expressed.[4][dead link][5] Churchill filed a lawsuit against the University of Colorado for unlawful termination of employment. In April 2009 a Denver jury found that Churchill was wrongly fired, awarding him $1 in damages.[6][7] In July, 2009, a District Court judge vacated the monetary award and declined Churchill's request to order his reinstatement, deciding the university has "quasi-judicial immunity". In February, 2010, Churchill appealed the judges decision.[8][9]

The controversy attracted increased attention to Churchill's research, which had already been criticized by legal scholar John LaVelle and historian Guenter Lewy.[42][49][50] Additional critics came forward, including sociologist Thomas Brown, who had been preparing an article on Churchill's work, and historians R.G. Robertson and Russell Thornton, who claimed that Churchill had misrepresented their work.[51][52] In 2005, University of Colorado at Boulder administrators ordered an investigation into seven allegations of research misconduct.[32]
On May 16, 2006 the University released the findings of its Investigative Committee, which agreed unanimously that Churchill had engaged in "serious research misconduct", including falsification, fabrication and plagiarism. The committee was divided on the appropriate level of sanctions.[2] The Standing Committee on Research Misconduct accepted the findings of the Investigative Committee that Churchill had "committed serious, repeated, and deliberate research misconduct", but also disagreed on what sanctions should be imposed.[53] Churchill's appeal against his proposed dismissal was considered by a panel of the University's Privilege and Tenure Committee, which found that two of the seven findings of misconduct did not constitute dismissible offences. Three members recommended that the penalty should be demotion and one year's suspension without pay, while two favored dismissal.[3][54]
On July 24, 2007, the University regents voted seven to two to uphold all seven of the findings of research misconduct, overruling the recommendation of Privilege and Tenure panel that two of them be dismissed. They then fired Churchill by a vote of eight to one.[3][54]
On the following day, Churchill filed a lawsuit in state court claiming that the firing was retribution for expressing politically unpopular views.[55] On April 1, 2009, a Colorado jury found that Churchill had been wrongly fired, but awarded only $1 in damages.[6] As one of the jurors said later in a press interview, "it wasn't a slap in his face or anything like that when we didn't give him any money. It's just that [Churchill's attorney] David Lane kept saying this wasn't about the money, and in the end, we took his word for that."[56] At the verdict, Churchill's counsel asked Chief Judge Larry J. Naves of Denver District Court to order reinstatement in light of the verdict.
On July 7, 2009, Judge Naves found that the defendants were entitled to quasi-judicial immunity as a matter of law, vacated the jury verdict and determined that the University does not owe Churchill any financial compensation.[9][57] Naves also denied Churchill's request for reinstatement at CU. Lane has already said he will appeal both decisions.[58]


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http://www.rightpundits.com/?p=873
At least officially, Churchill was not fired for infamously comparing innocent World Trade Center victims to “little Eichmanns.” Adolph Eichmann, of course, organized the Holocaust. That academic nonsense was included in a presentation he gave that set off a firestorm of well-deserved negative publicity and unwanted academic scrutiny.

He might have been fired for inciting violence, but on a college campus apparently professors have the right to yell fire in a crowded movie theater.

Instead, Churchill was investigated after a string of his academic fabrications and plagiarism came to light. The vote of the regents was 8-1 after concluding Ward Churchill engaged in academic misconduct. So you see, a little craving for attention can result in unintended consequences. What goes around comes around for Ward Churchill.

A rag-tag group of protesters with bongo drums held a rally for Churchill while he was being dismissed by the University of Colorado regents. Just say “free speech” and the nuts of the world will unite behind any cause no matter how petty.

The irony to me is that Ward Churchill will challenge his firing in court, while the Islamic militants he comforts continue to behead those who disagree with them.

Some are amused that anyone would protest the firing of an Ethnic Studies professor for any reason. The University of Colorado is wasting valuable resources on a useless program that is offensive to American values by its very nature, but that is the culture we live in today. All of the major university campuses offer this job-killing trap to students.

Somehow I think the students will be better served without Ward Churchill. And after all, that is the goal of education rather than the ego-satisfaction of mediocre professors.

Ward Churchill, fired




now a bit of background of the day i saw his speach on cnn or something like that, i looked and saw David Sparrow Eagle, a medicine man i know, my teachers brother.
and he's talking about Delta force infiltrating them and sabotoging native ways, and how the Lakota were offerd asylum in Palestine and stuff, i was like:eek::mad:ah hell no.

another thing was i was healing from muscles being ripped from my spine and a copule of the pedicles being broken, the spines of the sides of spine,,,,,,,due to an ultimate fighting match while drunk in chadron nebraska, home of gues who, well swallow(aka sparrow eagle),,,,,,,,,there is more to the story but i had to take a bus back with broken back the the largest hemotomad kidney the doctors had ever seen that did not burst,,,,,,,,,,,,,.

weird it does seem as if im a bit of an oddity with how i survive.

oh i wasnt in nebraska for ultimate fighting and also my opponant not to sound macho was a muscle bound behomouth collegate wrestling champ as well as 100 lbs heaveir, and i was drunk and had been in the hot nebraska summer for 7-8 hours that day, just had an argument with my teachers son, there was allot going on.

still have a prob with time frames and going through my records and stuff stresses me out.

oh wait, correction, that may have been when i was healing from an ABS being removed, an artificial bowel sphincter, imagine that pain, i was also part of those trials back in 1997. nearly died a few times that year also, well every year since.


i also remember me and another boy were asked a question, a choice, if you could have power over life or death witch one would you choose, the other boy chose death, i chose life.
i remember standing on the right with the other boy just a bit ahead of me and to my left, i allowed him to make his choice firs, i was surprised at his choice and knew one of us would be wrong and that would also make us enemy's, strange that a five year old would have thoughts like that,

that was also when i thought about my choice and why it was of my heart, life is everything and nothing, it must have freedom and to control it would be to destroy it, so to choose life would be to choose freedom for ones self and also win the freedom of others;)simple for me to think that way, i take it for granted, or the honest answer is i have scene many speak such words yet not know this simple truth i have just stated that ive known before kindergarden and how they are and such so ive feared becomeing a cult leader.
ya social influences are a bitch.
but im writting some of what is realy important down now and healing.
that was kinda humbling realizing that if any of this is true than why wouldnt i have a bitch of a time especialy now,,,,,there are other markers and such to show a strange series of events and paterns that coincide with certain other thing.

like right now.

im having a kinda similar effect on my breathing, its like waterboarding litteraly, not as bad but a definite pcycosymantic response that may coincide with programing breaking down ive come to assume.

its happend before, its like my saliva glands go nutty all of a sudden, not like im drooling its just weird.


so in short answer, that is why.

the long answer is on the other thread.

please understand i wrote a large portion under great stressors and threats.


Historical King Arthur coverup!!
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=32526

[kimball13]

Human Assisted Neural Devices
($18.9 million in FY 2011)
Enable memory restoration through the use of devices programmed to bridge gaps in the injured brain.

FY 2010 Plans:
- Identify neural processes for encoding short- and long-term memory in primates during a complex motor task.
- Build hardware and software to implement pattern extraction and inter-individual verification of homogeneity of patterns between primates.
- Create an interface that enables performance of a complex motor/sensory task through an assistive device without using either motor or sensory function.
- Determine task performance changes resulting from learning and plasticity through observation of the development of functional networks in the primate and rodent brain over time.
- Construct algorithms and methods capable of more accurately describing and estimating neural signals from limited data.

[kimball13]

well it was a mistake posting some of my story on someone else's thread, reason is they took it down due to a threat from another member, saying they are going to call CPS on them and have there kids taken.

lesson learned, it was only a few details, mixed in with some ways of thought and perceptions, etc.

well, yesterday i got a letter deleiverd that was sent to proviouse adress, a phone bill, aparantly ATT still wont look into identity theft and phones in my name that im not informed of until much later and usualy because they ask me about a phone that i had in a place i never lived or number not mine, now its kinda a double billling epasode, scam.


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[kimball13]

just found this, kinda explanes that naw in my gut about cia trying to take over certain things, etc, its a dam mess.

The SAS's actual designation is Military Special Projects, or MSP. The unit was redesignated in 1995, when General Boykin assumed the Deputy Chief post after coming over from the US Army's Delta Force.

The Central Intelligence Agency's (CIA) Directorate of Operations (DO), which is headed by a Deputy Director for Operations (DDO), is responsible for handling covert actions conducted on the Agency's behalf. Within DO are a number of subsections, including Counterterrorism, Counternarcotics, Counterintelligence Staff (CIS), Covert Action Staff (CAS), Special Operations, and others. Of these groups, the Special Operations unit is tasked with conducting paramilitary (PM) covert operations.


oh the point im making in this paste is, General Boykin going over to CIA from Army Delta Force.
they ask for proof, well there it is one more accusation made towards me that by what the record shows was most definatly someone else.

[kimball13]

The SAS provides a pool from which the various divisions within the Agency may draw trained personnel to form a Special Operations Group, or SOG. SOG's are short-term teams that carry out paramilitary operations such as sabotage; friendly personnel/material recovery; threat personnel/material snatches; bomb damage assessment (BDA); counterterrorist (CT) operations; raids; hostage rescues, and other activities as directed by the President.

notice key phrase, short term teams.

in such a way that would cause untold leaks and security issues as well as coehesivness of teams would be one issue, now there are issues in good old boy teams also but there is another issue involved.

nobody knows one another on those teams accept on occasions, thus no personal info and such, no safety in you group as in are you a MK-ultra not there by his own will and such.

think for a moment if they now have entire pools of guys just like me that they just pick up , send out, deleat memories then back to a substandard lifestyle and benifits while paper pushers recieve the bulk of benifits and such.


that is why the marines, cia, and fbi are in the same boat, same school, and well there comercial welcoming an airborne ranger home was a doozy and arrogant.

in it the ranger gets of plane, and nobody is around to greet him, until he gets into the city and is greeted by a lone man in blue jeans and flannel shirt with a marine core t-shirt that shows as he shakes the rangers hand, then society comes back streats full of people.
So there you have it, what do some marines do.

[itsallinus]

http://upshizzle.com/pfiles/1003/blowup1.jpg


on the originals i can make out more parts to it, it is not known to me, or well it might be im not sure.

Sorry I have not read through this thread but thought I should mention, I showed this pic to my mum, who looks at x-rays day in day out, she immediately pointed out that the shape of the head is not normal, a helmet or something is being worn and that this is obvious. The shape of the bottom of the head, even if it were only the jaw line, would not be shaped like that, it is covered with something or something non-attached is also in the x-ray.

I don't know either way and am not saying either way, but this was her professional opinion.

[kimball13]

its nice to see the network that caused allot of this is unraveling.

here is a story i found on the forum

Violent boyfriend forced his pregnant girlfriend to sign 'abuse contract' allowing him to beat her when he wanted

http://i.dailymail.co.uk/i/pix/2010/06/06/article-1284450-09EB4227000005DC-744_233x389.jpg

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/worldnews/article-1284450/Graydon-Smith-forced-pregnant-girlfriend-sign-abuse-contract.html



the reason im posting this is it has allot to do with this.

Seatle, step mom, druidic preistes, aslo goverment pcycic, long story.

the legal contract, this is how arrogant they have become.

what i was aproached on several angles on something similar had to do with a contractual agreement.
he lied about the terms as well as toher laws involved, then threats of physical violence and maybe death.

then another said something about special forces code of no snitching on another, well there are grey area's.

i wonder if one of them would be if a operator was killing others personal, selling them out, setting them up, etc, rape pedophilia.
human trafficing etc.

especialy when orderd to shut it down and root them out, but doing this while they are still in full swing in recruiting civilians into the fold...

so its kinda funny when i think of it, but also grates me.

the legal contract does not contain the terms he stated his stance on.
yet because i dont have a lawyer or do i ask for violence, yet it is there game, ohwell, i know there game but dont play it.

then the street code, i did not break, but they have more than once in public.

the names and such i say are clean:eek: there affiliations i know not off, the reason is i walk away, or flat out tell a person thats not my bussiness and i dont like being withing ear shot of a name dropper.
reason why i have this attitude is because of spec op types, and a kinda respect for secrets of certain types.

then one trying to portray himself as someone else starts in on the special forces take care of there own and dont snitch.

i told them in 93 if you dont find the guilty party and clear my name i will, you have 10 years, and well 2003 i started to breath down there throats.

i told them i would be back:rolleyes:and if it came to that it would not end until each one of them were found, and those in the know of who is guilty and out of greed kept up the coverup will find themselves in the same boat.

its not funny, its realy sad because the older ones, the fathers and such are realizing they have been slandering, torturing, and harrasing the inocent one and the entire group other than one is guilty at this point.

i wish this could have been handled a bit more covert but ohwell, i told them i would go to any length to get them all.

and the non-violent aproach is working very well.

and im still allowing the houses to clean there own houses out of respect;)

im only a messanger as some would put it.

even though Beckwith is passed on i still am kinda guided and dirrected by my real commanding officer.

they thought it was my father they had to worry about, no it was my dad's uncle and me, my dad was hit in the head around 84 in Washington state and since ive been the hound dog.

and my enemy's are using the same techniques my stepmother would be versed in as well as her friends.

the hard part is how many groups are involved in americas gang and criminal elements and there secrecy of there dealings.

im not interested in there personal stuff, only those in there groups that were trained by either special forces vets or have one in there ranks manipulating them.

it realy is a messed up game.

basicly it equates to CIA see's an operative they want, so the try to entice him, if that doesnt work with sex and drugs, then entrapment may occur, or a set up.
but usualy they just stress you out then send in a peice of cannon foder to illicet an attack to then have the warrior get kicked out, then they recruite.

im hoping that a few of those involved realize they have been kinda messed with and fed missinfo, but if they know and after are told then its on them.
i kinda done trying to clear it up and just have to clear it out.

funny thing is im the only one that can figure it out but because im the victim,,,,,,,,,well you see the situation they created, they knew exactly which on to do it to, how did they know.

its in my name, Bright shinning hound of God.
i wonder what he does.


good thing i dont go after groups and lump them all together, but then thats what were known for, being able to hit the enemy even when the surround themselves with innocents, gues the forgot that.

i gues you might call me a sorter in a sense.

as in i know what types belong where.
i also know when someone is not doing there job right, other than that i dont intefere much other than to get a grasp of there job, i ask questions not out of ridding them but more out of fact finding and seeing if i have something or can find a way to make there job easier, kinda what im good at.

that and i can hold my own and stay alive with the best of them.

reason i do what i can to not fight.

but it may be only a matter of time that i have to defend myself, ive given warning, ive endured there attacks for over ten years without harming even one of them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so it is only a matter of time that i feal i have to fight for my life, well realy others lives because i was taught my life meens that others will live, but never place my life above those im helping.
its a delicate balance.

it sucks, i have no middle gear for a boxing match anymore.
the cops knew that and im greatfull for there kinda meen advice about such things.

ive warned them, the police have witnessed what ive had to put up with, the bikers are realizing also, so imagine if you had those two groups on your ass thinking your the problem and now theyve both realized,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,dam he was fooled we were fooled, but he wanst fooled just confused and Kimball is not the guilty one, now after years they are being themselves.

if i wsa watching this from the outside i would be like dam, those people are crazy, and now they have no choice, they kinda wrote there own warrants on two sides, a pickle they tried to trap me in and end up with my death has been reversed.

there are straglers but they are being told.

but just think, Bikers and Cops with a common enemy.

why both, and why not just let them kill me and then arrest them well maybe because ive saved a few lives and continue to do so.

maybe because i warned them years ago about stuff might end up in drugs, such as flesh eating bacteria, found in Coke, and then the merca epedemic found around meth.

so on boht the legal and criminal just that kinda garnishes a bit of favors, not owed but out of honor.

funny huh, the one group that has people in both is special forces.

another funny thing is when any of them are sent to mess with me or kill me the look and go dam he looks familar.

who does he look like:eek:oh snapp, he resembles not only Beckwith as a youngman but also Marcinko in some ways.

imagine what kinda shit storm would ensue.
that is why he wanted me to do this op, i am the only one that could possible pull it off without being killed by the first bunch.

as i mentioned specs are found everywhere and well my look is kinda well known.
almost a stop sign, and it is hard to convey it all to them other than my enemy's are rapists and pedophiles to start with.

now go from there, think of the mind set, the pcycological profile and that will zero in your target.
look for sociopathic behavior and tendancy's.

most sociopaths remain happy when there goal to meet there desires are on track, they keep there cool very well.

take for example BTK killer, or Parker Ray, then there is Jim Jones,,,,,,,,,,Manson well hes a differnt story, actualy he is more a victim.
hate to say that but its true, i dont hold him in the same light as Jones or Ray, im not making any excuses just stating the truth and im not excusing what men like manso have done due to there resentments.

all of this is why vets were listed as possible terrorists, i didnt do that nor did the govement, that was done out of responce to those sitting at the party next to the spec op type, maybe a few of them but mostley its because of those that push Vets buttons and kinda trigger them and aim them.

kinda like aiming a missle, its a matter of odds for them, they know if they know 15 vets that one will bite and maybe bring anther one into there terroristic fold.

for example Boyd, a man that worked in afganistan durring cold war was arrested in midwest for starting a terroist cell using his old afgani contacts and such.

oh he, boyd, was CIA.

so for 8 years ive been trying to steer a big ship that was on a course straight into an iceberg, while also getting life boats ready.
getting it out there for them to take an iventorie in there houses.

i say houses because that is kinda what it is, thing is my house is always the lead house in times of war, and as well as peace when we are recognized.

to better describe the book Dune is a good way to describe it.

so again i release those energy entaglements without fealing i havent dont my best.
because i have done all that can be done for some, and the backlash is there own and they know it, the only ones who still intend to fight will find themselves no longer, as in the violence of the backlash is there own so if its 7 times what they sent they know what to expect, they know the mojo stuff the practice and its affect.

[kimball13]

it is becoming some what obviouse that some of my problems stem from the WAshinton STate area, the same place i moved to meet my father for the second time, i had met him one other time back in the seventy's, around 83-84 i moved up there, also is where he was hit in the head.
still wonder if it was my real father or if i then met the same man later on.

anyways.

now i dont have a doctor not by my choice, and my perscrition for my ostomy suply's is up on my birthday of all things, so this meens i may not be able to get it renewed due to the road blocks ive run into.

as it stands the only place for me to go is the clinic, and the doctor there is suspect in several things, as well as being an opiod specialist, heron addictions.

well i wont say more on that, and by the way i dont do heron, and it gives me a migrane headache, so this is a real problem i dont choose to go into it should be a fed prob or police, not my job.

by the way there are plenty of doctors, just not for me here in Ukiah CA.
why well its simple some of the bad guys did this and they are DR's, and htey moved quike all of a sudden hence why im left without the DR that fills my colostomy script.

so here is a funny ha ha, bill gates is he the idiot screwing with me now.

or here ya go, My STep mothers name was/is Marsha SMith, now funny the doctor's name was Smith and he moved to where she is:confused:

she is also the licensed phcycic by the united states gov, as in remote veiwing kinda stuff.

seems she and others have been at this for a long time, why i have to ask, has to be more than money, but theres allot they are using, so revenge, no because of the paterns and such, maybe an experiment or toehr such thing.

but its still more, could it be a simple thing like herod did to jesus, she mustve known something, she ended up spending more time with me than my dad because of his injury, mark on thigh, life's experiences, astrology, etc, maybe she knew and began attacking me due to her being satanic maybe, nah to simple an answer.

im stopping now because im about to go into it a little deep and if your not up to speed then it will only confuse you and you may just say oh this guy is nuts.

well it had to happen sooner or later.

and it also makes sense about what MK-Ultra was realy about.

if you think the nazi's were christian, if you do then there social influencing brainwashing for the intent of social architecture to replace God's plan is a better idea do hope you've at least looked around.

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oh washington state i think has DET K, as in korea.
and pacific whatever.

consider this, the whole manchurian candidate thing was a ruse to misdirect.

case in point, just analyze it.

makes a good coverstory for it to be korea's fault.

then as another sheild they have the army base's used.
scary thought is it not.

maybe it is, my dads uncle i was told was commander of a base in washington.


so SF to washington, the presidio to fort lewis i think.:eek:
just a thought.

[kimball13]

after running around for a weak, well less but whos keeping track of the time, not me i dont have the time.


ive had more confirmation on the Scottish Rite part of the Mason's is definatley the ones responsible for the MK-ultra continuation in this country, especialy Mendocino county USA.

Scottish rite is an Egyptian style, there are two branches of masonic ways, one is christian and good and the other is egyptian and other than good.

just because York rite is christian it still is inclusive, differnce in the two is Egyptian is more of spells and using deity's so to say, or helpers other than God.


as i mentioned before it was the Scottish Rite hearing and speach clinic that did this crap and are coninueing to do so as part of a plan of theres,,,,,,,,,,,kinda funny though because the very boy that was there target ended up also being a kinda double agent in a sense,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ah heck they wanted to control me and no body else, reaon is most others can be coearsed into using there gifts to kill and due cruel things. So with me it was left with using me to protect and heal as well as teach,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so both sides are guilty of this continueing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,a kinda open source operating system with peramiters,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so now that Scottish rite has gained control of USA Templars starting in 1997 that means i can justifiabley defend myself and declare war on the Masonic lodges as well as VAtican due to there continuouse neglect as well as cruelty, attacks, death threats, illnesses, malpractice, etc,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now that all of them are in the same group and the whole body is infected and compromised cleaning house becomes easy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,simple solution all officers to be removed, all, there are more than enough that walked away as well as those that were also blackballed to keep the good parts of society running while the bad parts are completely cut off and the wound cauterized,.

So to those that feal untouchable go back and read what is written in many texts that are contained in your archives as well as in public domain and then consider if it is worth risking this all getting even worse for you, what awaits for those that continue is not describable other than suffering beyond comprehension, all that you did to others in a condensed form with an eternal fire to burn you with it.

that is the best i can describe.

the first one founded it, the second was the best, the third was dispicable to the others, a freak of nature, a cripple with ability's not matched by the others, the best feared this one because he was and is differnt,,,,,,,,,,i was looked at as an abomonation and mutant to be kept as a dog or animal,,,,,,,,,,,,,.

thing is the third was more like his grandfather whom was not a Dawg/dough boy/DD/b-52/ operator, he was a spiritual man, a Templar and minister.

i can see what it looks like and dont like to admit it, but a Spiritual Warrior, a cornerstone thought to be defective and caste onto the ruble pile, and at near compleation, the arch is missing its keystone, the most important for the strenth and integrity of the archway, at the last moment the stone is found on the rubish pile and now they know that that defective cornerstone is, it is not a cornerstone at all but the keystone,,,,,,,,,,,,,now this would explane there wanting to denie this due to there misstreatment and participation in the abuse done to me and many others,,,,,,,,,,,,and now there faced with the possiblity of it being true,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.

i will continue this farther later and lay out how they have become corupt and forgot there true path and teachings of the Masonic lodge.


by the way the world head of the templars feels the same way about those guys, he is quoted on this topic in a book released a couple of years ago called "The Templar Papers".

[kimball13]

http://video.google.com/videoplay?docid=2967542171184509301&hl=en

[kimball13]

kinda what i thought the chip was for, an inhibitor, a way for them to kinda just do what they want with me, and well they can only either nock me out or cause durress is what it looks like.




The reticular formation consists of more than 100 small neural networks, with varied functions including the following:
1. Somatic motor control - Some motor neurons send their axons to the reticular formation nuclei, giving rise to the reticulospinal tracts of the spinal cord. These tracts function in maintaining tone, balance, and posture--especially during body movements. The reticular formation also relays eye and ear signals to the cerebellum so that the cerebellum can integrate visual, auditory, and vestibular stimuli in motor coordination. Other motor nuclei include gaze centers, which enable the eyes to track and fixate objects, and central pattern generators, which produce rhythmic signals to the muscles of breathing and swallowing.
2. Cardiovascular control - The reticular formation includes the cardiac and vasomotor centers of the medulla oblongata.
3. Pain modulation - The reticular formation is one means by which pain signals from the lower body reach the cerebral cortex. It is also the origin of the descending analgesic pathways. The nerve fibers in these pathways act in the spinal cord to block the transmission of some pain signals to the brain.
4. Sleep and consciousness - The reticular formation has projections to the thalamus and cerebral cortex that allow it to exert some control over which sensory signals reach the cerebrum and come to our conscious attention. It plays a central role in states of consciousness like alertness and sleep. Injury to the reticular formation can result in irreversible coma.
5. Habituation - This is a process in which the brain learns to ignore repetitive, meaningless stimuli while remaining sensitive to others. A good example of this is when a person can sleep through loud traffic in a large city, but is awakened promptly due to the sound of an alarm or crying baby. Reticular formation nuclei that modulate activity of the cerebral cortex are called the reticular activating system or extrathalamic control modulatory system.



the internal arcuate fibers are important for relaying the sensation of fine touch and proprioception to the thalamus and ultimately to the cerebral cortex
http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/thumb/2/22/Gray690.png/423px-Gray690.png


http://upload.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/commons/0/05/Hypothalamus.gif


judgeing from two angles of implant pictures , it looks to be at an acces point to such a place accessing the brain on some levels.
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=48&pictureid=7069
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/picture.php?albumid=48&pictureid=7346


one thing to consider is im no doctor and im also considering the position i was in laying down durring x-rays and mri's.

im going to spend a few minuts and look to see if i can find more angles.

[kimball13]

:D:rolleyes:





The decision is fraught with risk for Obama, who faces the difficult choice of shaking up command of an unpopular and costly war just six months after ordering 30,000 more troops into the fight against the Taliban.

McChrystal, the U.S. and NATO commander in Afghanistan and architect of Obama's war strategy, was summoned back to Washington to explain his "enormous mistake" to the president, the White House said.

Obama's spokesman said "all options were on the table" but the president stressed he wanted to speak to McChrystal first.

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http://www.cbsnews.com/8301-504083_162-6173065-504083.html

FLAGSTAFF, Ariz. (CBS/AP) Motivational speaker James Arthur Ray once appeared on "The Secret" to promote the power of positive thinking, but it's not clear that the guru's mental powers will be enough to beat a triple manslaughter charge tied to the deaths of three followers who took part in a sweat lodge ceremony last year.


Ray has built a multimillion-dollar empire as a self-help superstar who teaches people about financial and spiritual wealth, and uses free seminars to recruit followers to more expensive events.



He soared in popularity after appearing in the 2006 documentary "The Secret," and he promoted it on "The Oprah Winfrey Show" and "Larry King Live."

The Oct. 8, 2009 sweat lodge ceremony was intended to be the highlight of Ray's five-day "Spiritual Warrior" event at a retreat he rented near Sedona. He told participants, who paid more than $9,000 each to attend, that it would be one of the most intense experiences of their lives.



what i want to point out is simple , that stuff called the Secret is also promoted and written about by a man Named Michael Beckwith, pretty ironic would you say.

so there is a very clear example of what has happend as well as those that defrauded others as well as passed themselves off as experts in stuff that has obviously already taken lives, and those lives paid allot of money for a muderouse greed monger, why do i say this, well simple, after minimum of 10 atempts on my life between 97 and 2006.

and all of the dots that connect are to coincidental, now it should be very clear at what a group did and what transpired in many area's afterwords.


it is also a bit funny that i mentioned both things in prior posts and the possible connection to my case, but now it is very clear since both sets of information deal with my stuff, my property, my family birthright.

and well i dont have to prove it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the masons know, the real ones, if any left in the states,,,,,,,,,,,the ones i speak of though are Templars.

[fablest]

Kimball, ignore the critics, they won't succeed in shutting you down! They are blessed with ignorance.

I do wish you would start a blog too, if you do start one let me know.

[kimball13]

gues im a bit harsh, but hay i get allot of guff for that little chip.



many excuses and set ups for me to look certain ways in some peoples eye's


i am greatfull in a way, i will explain in a bit .

it was a kinda open secret for those that saw it during xrays and there little idea to cover it up , it was a cover up coverup coverup,,,,,,,,,while during an investigation 33 years long, a mission started when i was only a boy.

and for who,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you the general public,,,,,,,,,,ever dam action,,,,,,,,,,every dam mission saved lives, not took them,,,,,,,,,,,,my body count is standing alive not dead,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,more lives on the credit side than the dead side on the books in mylife...


how many can say that,,,,,,,,,,,,how many can say they saved more lives by the time they went through puberty that even some meddle winners,,,,,,,,,,i hold valor to be higher than honor for very good reasons,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.


but slander and story's have done there job in causeing me many hardships, as well as makeing me a scape goat for the rest of them.

and why am i still alive,,,,,,,,,well im innocent of the crimes some think i am guilty of,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,thing is if they reversed there perception they would see that it is the opposite of what htey thought about me.


Ya im a hunter killer of death and confusion.


oh and those that are wise enough to observe and reserve condemnation of me due to mosts limited perceptions and experiences,,,,,,,,,.

and endure some of there concepts not being destroyed but evolved to where the should be.
that is realy what is going on around me allot of the time.

i have an affect around me,,,,,,,,,,,,,,soonner or later either confusion gives way or most choose to remain in a stupor because to endure it is a bit confusing and some kinda dislike me,,,,,,,,,,reason is for lack of a better term bad spirits, demons, entity's energy's of death and confusion cant stand me.


as a boy i was asked you must choose, Jehoel, you must choose, do you choose the Power over Life or Death, which one would you ask to have dominion over, You must choose one,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,I Choose power over life.
and i knew all that it entailed.

the other boy, he chose the power over Death and he to understood what his dominion was over.

i could give it away and if you understand then you are very far along in the path, but remember not to get all im imortall death and pain are not part of an experience kinda thing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.

But having Power over Death was to take hold of the power of Lie's, the power's of Satan, even the bible says that Satan created death and lie's, it was from the lie death was born.

now the power over Life, well now that is an intersting and very hard thing to live with, but my weopon is truth and a truth always wins and destroy's a lie,,,,,,,,,,always a truth is a step ahead because a lie either doesnt exist or it comes about to hide a truth,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and if a truth doesnt want to be hidden:eek:

i have to leave it at Drafyd and Sasquatch, things of the power of life i chose.

it was odd, it is crazy looking back on it, funny the 200th year of america,,,,,,,,,,34 years later, could say oh 34 would be where Christ left off.

creepy coast to coast just said something about that, christ and angels, weird crazy.

So where do you stand, you may want to do some praying.

and well the one called by God Faithful and True, rider of the White horse, the one that holds the keys to the abys and will destroy satan for good, and to usher in the reing of Christ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,as in Christs Champion is an angel that is also a man, it is all there.

oh but then like a thief in the night.

or a WArrior King leading from the front, point.

i knw its dramatic, but damit,,,,,,,,,,,,Coast to Coast just even said it common now,,,,,even if its being made up and im being manipulated you gotta admit that is a very good job at what they did,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but i dont think that is the answer.

after all a mark on my thigh;)

[kimball13]

here is the coverup program i spoke off, as i also mention that is around the time i underwent the main body of programing and memorie repression stuff.

just released im going to find more info on this but this is good news.
realy good news and supports my thoughts and what ive stated as part of how this had occured and why i was a one in a million shot at shutting this crap down.

now i wonder who that man was, and well he deserves some thanks or at least recognition in what a remorsefull heart does to correct wrongs occuring.



Operation Dormouse
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Operation Dormouse was the informal codename given to a CIA covert operation launched in 1975 to divert attention from Project Artichoke.[1] Operation Dormouse was to divert attention from Project Artichoke and direct it to the infamous Project MKULTRA. [2]
Contents [hide]
1 Project Artichoke and Operation Dormouse
2 Participants
3 References
4 See also
[edit]Project Artichoke and Operation Dormouse

Recently released documents show that although the horrors and atrocities of MKULTRA received most of the attention and public outrage over CIA mind control programs, the tortures earliest, deepest and most influential roots in fact found in the CIA's Project Artichoke.
This was the outcome planned by the CIA when it created Operation Dormouse. It operated out of the CIA's Security Research branch, and was launched as the 1975 Rockefeller Commission report and the subsequent Congressional hearings into CIA illegal activities chaired by Senators Frank Church and Teddy Kennedy started.
The idea was that by exposing the MKULTRA program by essentially offering it to the press, any investigative attempts into the Project Artichoke would be diverted.[3]
In his 2009 book, A Terrible Mistake: The Murder of Frank Olson and the CIA's Secret Cold War Experiments, H. P. Albarelli documents some of the atrocities of the project including terminal interrogations conducted in Germany under Project ARTICHOKE .[4]
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Among other participants, Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeld have been specifically implicated in Operation Dormouse, working with the CIA to suppress information on Artichoke from surfacing.[5][6]



and as i suspected the involved party's and coroporations.

and as i also knew about the coverup and the going operational





http://theintelhub.com/2010/05/23/operation-dormouse/

[QUOTE]Cries from the Past: Torture’s Ugly Echoes
May 23, 2010 by Alex
Filed under Constitution and Politics, Military & Overwatch, U.S. News
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Editors Note: These startling revelations will change the way we think about CIA mind control forever. Operation Dormouse goes deeper than most of us could have ever imagined. Members of Obama’s integration teams as well as Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfield have been specifically implicated.
The Intel Hub on UPRN will be welcoming H P Albarelli Jr to the show Friday, May 28th at 10pm eastern.
Sunday 23 May 2010
by: H.P. Albarelli Jr. and Jeffrey Kaye, t r u t h o u t | Report
In a superb op-ed, written by Leonard S. Rubenstein and Stephen N. Xenakis, published recently in the New York Times (Doctors Without Morals, March 1, 2010, p. A23), the issue of holding physicians and psychologists accountable for their ethical breaches in participating in the conduct of torture is expertly raised, along with a well-needed call for investigations into such violations and violators. Rubenstein and Xenakis wrote: “[Despite overwhelming evidence] no agency – not the Pentagon, the CIA, state licensing boards or professional medical societies – has initiated any action to investigate, much less discipline, these individuals. They have ignored the gross and appalling violations by medical personnel. This is an unconscionable disservice to the thousands of ethical doctors and psychologists in the country’s service. It is not too late to begin investigations. They should start now.”
Rubenstein and Xenakis are absolutely correct in their call for action now, as they are in their accounting of what has gone on historically the past ten years with torture at Guantanamo and elsewhere. However, their op-ed says nothing about the decades preceding the terrible events of 9-11. An examination of these well-hidden, past torture activities might serve well in shedding light on the causes for reluctance and inaction in holding torturers and their professional cohorts responsible.
Operation Dormouse
Contemporary torture’s earliest, deepest and most influential roots are found in the CIA’s Artichoke Project. Indeed, it is Project Artichoke that encapsulates the CIA’s real traveling road show of horrors and atrocities, not MK/ULTRA which, although responsible for its own acts of mindless cruelty, pales in comparison.
That MK/ULTRA received, and continues to receive, the lion’s share of the media’s attention and public outrage over CIA mind control programs was a deliberately planned outcome on the part of the Agency. This outcome was the central objective of a never before revealed covert operation launched in 1975 and informally code-named Dormouse.
Dormouse, operated out of the CIA’s Security Research branch, had its genesis in the 1975 Rockefeller Commission report and in the subsequent Congressional hearings into CIA illegal activities chaired by Senators Frank Church and Teddy Kennedy. Following the initial revelation of Frank Olson’s alleged “suicide” by the Rockefeller Commission, a number of high-level meetings occurred between President Gerald Ford’s White House and CIA General Counsel Lawrence Houston.
Houston, who had served the Agency as its doyen general counsel for over 25 years, secretly huddled on at least two occasions in June 1975 with Ford’s chief of staff, Donald Rumsfeld, and his chief assistant, Richard Cheney. Houston impressed upon both men that any prolonged and intense media scrutiny of Project Artichoke would lead to opening a Pandora’s box of legal, institutional, international and public relations problems that could destroy the CIA.
Houston explained that the Agency’s MK/ULTRA program was far less problematic for the CIA because it had been a research-based program that initiated 153 contracts to colleges, universities and research institutions nationwide. These contractors, all stalwart and prestigious institutions like Harvard, Columbia, and Tulane Universities, could serve as viable buffers to any harsh outside attacks.
Houston stressed that deliberate exposure of the MK/ULTRA program by essentially offering it to the press would serve to placate the brewing feeding frenzy over so-called mind control projects, and would divert any investigative attempts into the multi-faceted Artichoke Project.
Houston additionally explained to Rumsfeld and Cheney that, along with the release of MK/ULTRA details to the media, the names of a few former CIA employees, such as Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, would also be released to the press. Incredibly, when the subject of possible federal prosecutions of CIA officials for capital crimes and felonies, such as murder and drug trafficking, came up in their discussion, Houston informed Rumsfeld and Cheney that there was little cause for concern./QUOTE]

[kimball13]

to simply put what ive been up against i will take exerpts from articles regarding this all, and well it has been what ive said fromthe start.

in the Historical king Arthur coverup thread.

why im black balled by Alex Jone's and others such as Jim Channon, Robert Duncan Offinian, Dan Crane Burisch, and even Candy Obrien and well most all of the MK-Ultra victim support groups, well just like i suspected.

well now i know for sure and so do you.

and well im the one that was the real victim as well as what some call themselves super soldier whooie.
http://www.truth-out.org/cries-from-past-tortures-ugly-echoes59738
That MK/ULTRA received, and continues to receive, the lion's share of the media's attention and public outrage over CIA mind control programs was a deliberately planned outcome on the part of the Agency. This outcome was the central objective of a never before revealed covert operation launched in 1975 and informally code-named Dormouse.

Dormouse, operated out of the CIA's Security Research branch, had its genesis in the 1975 Rockefeller Commission report and in the subsequent Congressional hearings into CIA illegal activities chaired by Senators Frank Church and Teddy Kennedy. Following the initial revelation of Frank Olson's alleged "suicide" by the Rockefeller Commission, a number of high-level meetings occurred between President Gerald Ford's White House and CIA General Counsel Lawrence Houston.




proof well now even the DAvid Icke forum is proof, real time proof of this coming to light two years before the release of the real.

i am greatfull to those tha realeased this, i truly am, every bit helps.

[kimball13]

In 1997, former CIA Technical Services chief, Dr. Sidney Gottlieb, who had been born into a Jewish family, said, "Throughout the 1950s, and for some time beyond, the Agency was less than a welcoming place for Jews and racial minorities. Those who were actually ever hired or involved in operations learned rather quickly to keep their heads down when certain matters were discussed or rallied round."

[kimball13]

and little me, whos hair was once light now is a bit dark.
tan i am.

anyways, i suppose i pissed them off being the real one, the one that Hitler wanted a German to be, as in the real king Arthur.

na couldnt be as simple as all that.


so here is more copy and paste, i want to say i am greatfull this is getting out and it makes it easier prooving it all, as well as maybe i can get some help with the continueing attacks and harm being done, the insesant sabotoge on my life.

it must be jeoulouse as one put it a few years back, imagine those sexslaves and all the ohter MK-Ultra stuff that is nothing compared to what was done to me is how some might feel about me and then they get mad at me for taking the lime light, and they find that they were not the real focus and intent of there programs, and well some might get afraid that im going to take there meal ticket and the whole time ive been trying to say this is bigger than us, and well i need you to tell part of my story and yours so i can fill inmy part and then both parts as a whole maybe a solution can be found,,,,,,,,,,,or are most MK-Ultra survivors just to coverup what i am and they are all perps, i cant believe that to be completely true but some ya it is true and they lure my kind in to try to use as if we were slaves.

t



http://www.truth-out.org/cries-from-past-tortures-ugly-echoes59738




Cries From the Past: Torture's Ugly Echoes
Sunday 23 May 2010
by: H.P. Albarelli Jr. and Jeffrey Kaye, t r u t h o u t | Report


Here it should be emphasized that inevitably lurking within, near, and around all of the CIA's early mind-control experiments was a strong element of racism that generally manifested itself through the Agency's principle objective of establishing control over the perceived "weaker" and "less intelligent" segments of society. That the CIA's initial mind control activities show a close kinship with many prominent characters within the racist and anti-immigration eugenics movement is no coincidence. Thus comprised was the central leadership of the CIA's Project Artichoke.

[kimball13]

Houston explained that the Agency’s MK/ULTRA program was far less problematic for the CIA because it had been a research-based program that initiated 153 contracts to colleges, universities and research institutions nationwide. These contractors, all stalwart and prestigious institutions like Harvard, Columbia, and Tulane Universities, could serve as viable buffers to any harsh outside attacks.

http://theintelhub.com/2010/05/23/operation-dormouse/

[kimball13]

what i cant understand is ive mentioned this to those that have recoverd there memories and told there story's.

MK-ultra suvivors, is this why, is it because i was part of other projects, a culmination of there memorie supression stuff and such.

maybe just fear i hope i hope that is what it is, and if not then jeolousey or maybe misstook me for something else, i dont know, but this does explain it a bit more.

was my one in a million chance to much to believe that i am the one some hinted about, an anomoly, and well here is a nother cut and paste to assist in understanding.
and why the mkultra suvivors were proded and poked into becomeing somewhat celebs to kinda make a dead end and to basicaly do what there still existant programing is ment to do when encountering one like me.

ive sent out emails with my X-rays in them, along with a short bit of my story, as well as asking for help, pleading, as well as stateing this not only has to do with me, but national security as well as that of many around the globe, i hope its not to late, never know though and that is why i get a bit pisssed.




http://naffoundation.org/Lets%20Get%20Real.htm






n the early to mid 1990s, a few mind-control survivors who had also been used as sex slaves, drug mules, couriers and more decided to share their traumatic abuse histories with the public.

Most of those earlier outspoken survivors, including Cathy O'Brien, Brice Taylor, Arizona Wilder and Cisco Wheeler, presented their information in published books, conference presentations, and radio interviews.

Very quickly, each of them was targeted by a series of men (and a few women) who posed as anti-CIA investigators, authors, researchers, and deprogrammers while attempting to gain the survivors' trust and entry into their minds and private lives.

Whenever a survivor rejected one of of those con artists' advances; almost immediately, the survivor was targeted by another one, then another and another.

Although none of us were able, during the 90s, to verify any of their CIA connections; we later learned that most of them did admit - to their peers and former partners - that they'd worked for the CIA as employees or contractors.

Some of the Extreme Abuse survivors who were targeted by those individuals now think of them as handlers, pimps, and false shepherds. I prefer to call them carpetbaggers because they consistently preyed upon the trust and vulnerabilities of self-emancipated slaves with limited resources.

In every single case in which carpetbaggers successfully embedded themselves in the lives of survivors, they convinced the survivors to open their minds, hearts, lives, homes, bank accounts and more. In every case, the carpetbaggers convinced the survivors to hand over all of their verifications and documentation that could have backed-up their traumatic abuse histories.

And in every case, the carpetbaggers convinced the targeted survivors to accept the reality of the carpetbaggers' tainted information and to then provide that information - along with the survivors' previously valid information - to the public.

Once the tainted information was presented, self-described "skeptics" then used the tainted information to "prove" that the survivors' histories couldn't be true, since their public presentations now also included the carpetbaggers' disinformation.

(For instance, many of the survivors were hypnotically tricked into believing that some of their former abusers were human-sized lizard aliens dwelling inside human bodies. Those hypnotic suggestions were probably borrowed from the mid-1980s TV series, V.)

In some cases, after the carpetbaggers drained their targeted victims of everything the carpetbaggers considered valuable; the carpetbaggers then did their best to convince the survivors that their traumatic abuse histories were not valid at all. Some of the carpetbaggers even used hypnotic suggestions to try to influence the survivors to commit suicide.

In a smaller number of cases, some of the same carpetbaggers picked one or two survivors with whom they then developed long-term controlling relationships. In those relationships, the carpetbaggers have actively used the survivors as disinformation conduits, while also using the survivors to make a little extra money on the side through co-authored books, shared public presentations, and so on.

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i hate pointing out something realy obviouse.

most of the people that supposadly woke up and broke programing, how is it that they can write so well, and some even managed to have carrears.

the dont seem to show any sings of trauma durring interviews, most seem very detached in a way.

now im articulate and such, and well to be honest the amount of durress has made in near impossible for me to be clear with people all the time.

and well some in the know or somewhat in the know are scarred shitless of my ability's, and some even whisper, he knows what we did, some say its only a matter of time before he come to completely, its already to late its not working anymore.

the cap is breaking, so the bp thing is kinda weird hereing the terms used.

like i mentioned i hunt controllers not victims, its not to assasinate them or such, well maybe if its publicaly know and legal sanctioned by president them well if there still doing it rogue style then no damage to anyone but the perps.

ya hunting the nest is a better way to put it, hence why they arranged for me to get move here, a hot bed of mkultra stuff.

Jim Jones for one, and Charles Manson are two of the most famouse vics and perps.

Jones tow was part of killing off non pure races type crap, undesirables.

it was not only part of there ongoing research but an operation done by the very same group.

now here it is 2010 and some of the perps are still living ad one even made it to become Vice President.

i liked Bush Jr, and knew he was doing his best considering what he had around him,,,,,,,,,,,,,,he suspected it when the towers were hit...

now you know how Dick Cheney got away with shooting is best friend duck huntin in the face, then his friend apologized for stepping in front of the gun,,,,,,,he was sending a message to all to stay out of his way, even the president might back down after seeing himget away with what he was getting away with.

i do think this ties allot of my posts together and shows what has realy been a pain in my ass for 10 years intensly.

i just want to say i am a bit greatfull for where i live because the people here around my age are pretty smart and like to know things, well and some are realy dam sick of the way they grew up and how bad its gotten, it was bad for them and its worse now...

dam this shit is way to scriptural and prophetic.

[kimball13]

and how far down the rabbit hole should we go.



The Dormouse is a character in "A Mad Tea Party", often popularly known as "The Mad Hatter's Tea Party", Chapter VII [1] from Alice's Adventures in Wonderland by Lewis Carroll. He sat between the March Hare and the Mad Hatter. They were using him, while he slept, as a cushion when Alice arrives at the start of the chapter.
The Dormouse is always falling asleep during the scene, waking up every so often, for example to say:
`You might just as well say,' added the Dormouse, who seemed to be talking in his sleep, `that "I breathe when I sleep" is the same thing as "I sleep when I breathe"!'
He also tells a story about three young girls who live in a treacle well, live on treacle, and draw pictures of things beginning with M, including mousetraps, memory and muchness.

[kimball13]

The Dormouse is referenced in popular culture by two American rock bands: Firstly by Jefferson Airplane in the song "White Rabbit", in which the last line of the song, repeated twice and building through a crescendo is "Remember what the dormouse said: feed your head, feed your head". Secondly by the progressive metal band Queensrÿche in the song "Right Side of My Mind". The British rock band Radiohead also refer to the dormouse in the song "Knives Out" with the lyrics, "Catch the mouse/ Don't look down/ Shove it in your mouth" and "Cook him up/ Squash his head/ Put him in the pot".
The Dormouse makes an appearance in American McGee's Alice, where he and the March Hare are held captive as the Mad Hatter's experiments. He is tied to a dissection table and continues to fall asleep from the Hatter's medicines.
In the SyFy TV Miniseries Alice, the Dormouse is a sidekick of the Hatter.

[kimball13]

The character also appears in Disney's Alice in Wonderland. Like in the book, he is sleepy and lazy, but unlike in the book, he sings Twinkle, Twinkle, Little Bat instead of his story about mouse sisters to entertain the tea-party participants. He panics at the mention of the word "cat" and needs to drink tea in order to calm down. The Disney version of the character also appears in Bonkers, House of Mouse and Mickey's Magical Christmas: Snowed in at the House of Mouse.

[owls]

hey there,

what you can do, is to find out, if you're programmed and play with it.


f.e. kimball -> mk (l)(a)b li (+ ultra, l=12, i=9)
u(l)tr(a) e (missing letter) -> = true lie

just an example.
take care of the internet, not everything is true and sometimes we tend to search a goat to explain some things that we're not able to.

but I guess, you're not interested in my opinion and will to help anyway.

all the best

[kimball13]

hey there,

what you can do, is to find out, if you're programmed and play with it.


f.e. kimball -> mk (l)(a)b li (+ ultra, l=12, i=9)
u(l)tr(a) e (missing letter) -> = true lie

just an example.
take care of the internet, not everything is true and sometimes we tend to search a goat to explain some things that we're not able to.

but I guess, you're not interested in my opinion and will to help anyway.

all the best


please explain what your saying, is that a fomulae, or is it some of importants.

i notice youve had 3 posts, you go by Owl, now that is intersting in its self.

have you read the enitire thread or just the last few pages, did you happen to read the other thread or do any checking for youself.

i should also add that the internet was the last place i looked.

i notice you choice of wording is well chosen to either elicit a responce or inject into the subcoceince, have you looked into any of it.

by the way i dont pay attention to allot of internet storyies unless its declaiffified by gov, or some hard evidence such as my xray.


i am just baffled by the arrogance and ego's of many in the world, it is realy the only thing that catches me off gaurd, lie's piss me off.

So Owl may ask from what expertise do you speak from.

and what is f.e kimball anyways.

it looks like one of the curly hairs to give a demon, im no demon.

let me see what else can i extrapolate from you one post.

programed, no not realy, conditioned to fuck up those programs, yep.

would memorie repression and copartmentalization be done as a result of the Artichoke programs, and why the MK-ultra one's were a smoke screen.

so the question is mkultra programed as wel as programers to run interferance for the artichoke, program to develope a operative that if caught can lock away his millitary experience, in other words compartmentalize it and lock that compartment,,,,,,,,,,,.

those programs are for both ends, if you can do it then you better be able to protect your own against that type of interigation.

that is why in previose posts, you will see that i wrote about when i felt the halucinegenic takeing effect and then stareing in a mirror and placeing a time stamp, then puttingmy initials and date on a wall with some artistic rendition f there arrogance and ego,,,,,,,,,,,,,,that was the chair, or as some call it the Montauk chair,,,,,,,,,,,,,Moon Talk Chair, to shine a light in darkness to see what is hidden at night anyways.

a chair of metal descized as a barbor chair, covers come off and the metal arms have holes in them about little smaller than golf ball,,,,,,,,,,,,any ways wires with acupuntur neadles on the ends are put into your body in some places to the bone,,,,,,,,,,,,,its even it a recent movie release, called 13: The Conspiracy of all things, and my posts came out before the movei.

so there you have it document of social influencing came out july-29-2009,,,,,,,,,,,,Dormouse came out in may--2010.

there is allot more, i dont have time to realy gather and post it all, nore to be very detailed on some of it, i do have a line i dont cross because what i did was not realy a bad thing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and well it is also why im suc a secret because even though my job was a good thing, the way im treated, neglected,torutured, used for war, used for intel, used for pcyops, used for pcycic warfare, used to heal, used to save lives.

they have kept what i do within certain guidlines because i cannot cross certain lines.


now imagine what would happen if i knew what im capable of completely and after all these year i am what i say i am as well as have the same code of morals and values as well as integrety even when used in the way theyve used me and fooled me at times.

so realy maybe what ive stated for some time was true.


oh by search a goat do you meen seek the help of a satanist, ya i know the millitary does that,,,,,,,,,,,,i try not to give my opinion on that to much, but use them and throw them away, so why is it the christian or indian caste aside in th gutter and the goat is give what he needs.

or maybe my idea of a goat is differnt.

So owl youve just said a bit of jibberish to the general public and well i dont understand it myself.

and here is why, i had to teach myself to read and write, as well as most everything else, had maybe a day or two of school a weak, had to play allot of catch up, firts years up till 4th grade was in specialy educaiton, then 3 months into normal class i was then put in the gifted class, caused cultrure shock because i still dont know how to write well.

i see the differnt symbols your using english in a algebraic form.

but your using algebra in a distorted coded way, it should be used to unlock epiphany's along with stating a truth the writer found.


please be a bit clearer there Owl, or im going to continue acting like Sherlock HOlmes, and well i might give some people idea's and they might begin to think on there own as well as develope abstract reasoning and learn to truly learn.


So as a reminder to the general public, i have less than an 8th grade edjucation, oh ive had some high shcool and got my GED, took the test with no prep and even was a bit lazy but still passed.

that is what confuses them a bit, last SAT i took i scored a 1350 out og 1500, junior in college was my enjucation level when i went into my freshman year.

why i say i only had less than 8th grade is before i was sent to washington i was in a shcool just started in SFCA called the Annex had about 30 kids.

the best of the best of what is surviving on the streets in the most hostile envioroments in the city and still having hearts i remember.

ya programs and crap, i sniff em and shut em down, i dont even know how many ops ive been sent on, now you think there going to use artichoke for what, well someone used all of it in a bad way and it loooks like Dick CHeney and Rumsfeild missused it, is that why the attemps on my life.



oh, by the way one of my good friends called Yellow Owl, well all this crap ended our friendship, it saddened me that he wasnt honest with me, instead of attacking me, he should have helped me and worked with me.

i dont know his heart, well actualy i do, or my head would not be hear right now, and that is why i did not flinch or move is faith not any mojo or anything, but faith i knew if my brother truly does love God my head would still be there after he swung it:cool:


ohwell all of this is crazy, and i have found im the only one that has stuck to the same ideals, principles, values and integrity on his path, it is saddening, but i understand ive maid my mistakes but i never attacke anyone, i only defended and then made myself look just as bad as my attacker, not by being that way but using a good type of social influencing.

but every thing has its cost, but i dont have the entire big picture but there are things i know that others want to act like the do.

i will right more later, and i should start letting go of my ego, low self esteem, false pride, realy, but mine is differnt, i dont want to put others down by shinning bright, by truely offering what ive been given without worry that i am putting on airs,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,its like watching so many get arrrogant and crap kinda messed m head up and i fear succes if i have anything to do with it because then well i dont like copy cats, clicks or us against them and i never wanted a group sideing with me to go get them, but sooner or later thats bound to happen in everything until mankind gets over it.

[kimball13]

this is who i dreamed of being before there procedures began in 76.

it is like yesteday, even a bit clearer the few memorie's i still retain.

the crowd at the festival and all the sutters trying to string the bow of Shiva, i even remember how my first reaction to breaking it was shock, i kept it to myself and waited almost not breathing thinking dam i might have to either fight my way out off here or surrender and hope there wisdom over rules what may be taken as something bad.

but a fraction of a second after that first uho i realized it was something more and was destined to happen.
this also explanes there facination with DNA as well as REincarnations and incarnations.

http://www.starsai.com/wp-content/uploads/lord-rama.jpg


what is strange is also the refernce to Rama's charector and how he deals with demons, he defeats them and is also know for healing them after he has them down and out, and instead heals them.

many questions have been asked about this, well maybe some will change is te answer, maybe its like in war you let the harmless ones, after you pull there teath, and follow them home to there big demon, or maybe even a devil or satan's elite gaurd, many they kinda freak out the most, to much paper work.
oh and this might explain that in Budhism, Islam, Christianity, Native American, Celtic folklore my ansestors are often spoken off as well as my coming to defeate death and confusion and make way for the coming of Christ.

i do also recall stateing that allot of MK-ultra stuff is being used as a diversionary tactic, but i also said even the diversions are victims of atrocitie's.

and some even were recruited to hinder me and stop my types from shutting it down.

my stuff began around 75, i was a one in a million shot, a mole injected into operation Dormouse,,,,,,,,,,,,,well you all know how it all works,,,,,,,,,this is why they were able to replace me with a few others, and every time it got worse because they were picking up the wrong guy's, when it was me and only me they shouldve picked up to put in charge of stopping project artichoke's programs and mk-ultra.

around 87 it was very aparant a cover up operation was in effect, later on it was found that when an mk was found and sent for deprograming by DR's, they were just basicaly absorbed into the Dormouse operations and sent at the very ones that found them to get them help,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so then now the next issue, who is ordering it all, we cant stop it, they are offcial in covert stuff is the best i can put it.

So then the ones that singed of on it all have to be found and smoked out as well as there true intentions and agenda, well after Waco, Mogadishu,93 tower bombings, 911, Oklahoma,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya we were tracking them,,,,,,,it was hard, even in mogadishu, that was the trap i spoke off, but my job and mission i could only try to thwart there ambush and save as many rangers and Delta as i could, those poor somali's, it was near peace up to two months or som prior when the marines blew up the meeting of tribal elders, you know the herditary leaders, even the Warlords listen and respect them.

So ive seen it first hand, my spotty memorie is of no concequence in this, they have been caught red handed and just one of those crimes is enough to shut them down permanantly.

just as Cheney and Rumfeild adviced Pres Ford to create operation Dormouse.

what Artichoke created along with ways of torture and discrediting targets as well as interigation techniques,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,there was also the counter, to create a operative that could withstand it as well as incase of necesity he could block it even from himself, in a sense just like Jason Bourne in a way, but the amnesia is on the pesons millitary training, all of it, not even mem of boot camp because the training and conditioning began as a small boy.

See my stuff took place around 75-75,,,,,,and i was separated from the rest of the group, off to the side next to all that frequency equipment next to the operating table he asked me if i wanted to be a super soldier like thos other boys, of course i said yes, im a warrior at heart, yet i was also a bit like a little boy and niave, because i was a littel boy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then he quitly said, you will be one but differnt,,,,,,,,,,,,a one in a millon shot,,,,,,,,,,,if any one could it would be the little boy that has the Dreams of Being Lord Rama, ya the little one that is healthy strong and intelgent, but is also handicapped and they say might die before puberty due to arterial anomaly's, the the twisted spine and incontinence,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well ya,,,,,,,,,one in a million, but for some reason,,,,,,,.

if this all sounds like those Hopi prophecy's or mayan, even the christian and other tribes story's includeing celtic then your a bit closer to whats up than most.

see, in those programs some say was also bloodlines being used, and differnt blends to create the dna stuctures they wanted, now was i a natrualy occuring fall in there lap perfect canidate,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,perfect cover, and having all the necisarry things and gifts for specific tasks,,,,,,,,,,,well yep, so that would also make me a perfect morsal for an enemy to seek to recruite or as in this case, to try to do there programing stuff, or artichoke stuff.

i dont like rewritting allot of what ive written over the past two years.


but Duncan Offinian even said it, that there aer other programs allot higher up than his, and it also had to do with Native american blood and Celtic.

so put an Apache, a Soiux, A Catuvellanni, A Merovingian, and a Croat together and what do you have, just geneticaly a very scary person to his enemy's, but then there is the soul part, the heart part, the mind part.


and also the Rama stuff



so this is part of it all realy, i know, it is very a bit like a unified conspiracy theorie, but it is not a theory, so it is simply the main conspiracy that embodie's many other conspiracy's and take out this conspiracy and convict the guilty party's and well im pretty sure mankind will heal very well.

[kimball13]

ohwell, i wanted to try to pesonalize this and just put in on my profile page but to many words, dam, didnt know i could type so dam fast, its like i go into super mode.

over 9,000 words, dam imagine if i knew how to realy write..

Ive come across declassified documents, there declasification came after i disclosed it a bit in my posts while trying to not draw to much attention to it, due to the high levels involved such as former VP Dick Chenney and Donald Rumsfeild, so you may understand what ive been up against as well as the amount of durress ive had to endure.
Check out the recently released stuff on operation Dormouse, as well as Social Influencing, the SI stuff look under De-classified, or type in Black Vault Social Influencing, or Brain Washing Social influencing, other wise you will find basic peer pressure studdy's and herd mentality stuff that is not what this stuff is about, it is about con artists and such type stuff,,,,,,,,,,,think of mafia, conjobs, forgery, mind tricks, coearsive tactics, mind games to control others, etc.

Please do help in anyway you can, not only for me but others.

i have a hard time asking for help for myself, and well i have to start even i cannot do it on my own, and well i dont want to become bitter and hatefull and well if i continue to give more than i recieve then my expressions of love kinda are hinderd.
My mother feared me as a boy at age 6, my dreams of Rama, my gifts, and the stuff that was done to her and myself to do what they did, i dont hold my mother responsible, she is not me nor is anyone else and i cannot bully or dominate others, it is there choice where they stand i can only teach and protect, but when they all are in the enemy's camp and i dont have anything to protect and i see all of my people being held hostage and tortured while not even knowing it, well then what did they expect to happen, mother nature is a realy protective ally to have, it is part of my heritage, and told of in fables and folklore of grail kings and fisher kings.
I want to mention i am only one, there are many, 144,000 Grail Kings.
But there is one that is the leader, as written and foretold, but due to many things left out and manipulated much confusion and death caused by the words being changed and those with truth killed off(murderd),,,,,,,,,,,.

So it is time for others to accept what and who they realy are, i know how hard it is, trust that, i cant hide from it, i cant refute it, ive realy looked for things that would disqualifie me of being the next incarnation of Rama, the one said to destroy Death and Confusion,,,,,,,,,,,,every nook and crany of my life it is there.
even the parts not written of, the understandings and wisdoms that come from inside me, and are guided by God to not be missused, this is why some think i fear succes or dont have the backbone to be cutthroat in any endevor, the agresive types see my strengths and wonder why , the strong wise ones to, and the ones that use trickery and confusion fear me greatly and some nearly run, happend the other day, but they are good at hiding the turmoil inside, and well i tend to calm them down and act as a Lion purring, but there ego's think im castrated and they tend to try to harm me through phcycological warfare, and well it kinda pisses me off because the end results off there attacking is then not only found as a sin and guilty in the Eye's of God but also those that witness it occur,,,,,,,,,,the harm they do to children adn adults, and in my case for over 34 years, realy 40 years, first day of my birth.

funny i think of it now, Rama, the hindu stuff talk of flying craft and Rama is known as a Warrior, of devine proportion, and i was born across the street from Top Gun School, merimar naval air station.
it is also said i would teach the uninitiated at there group gatherings, i would purufie unto myself a strange people, as well as other things that are still coming to pass.
It is time i start realy being honest, ive been truthful, there are things i have to know for absolute sure of, and that is always what is of God and what is not, i never assume any thing of God's plan and mysterie's and only speak of what i know to be true in my heart, body and mind as well as what i observe around me and in the world, then i look inward for how i truly feel, as well as acknowledge what i hate and dont hate, i also acknowledge what the world says i should hate and what i should love according to the worlds understanding, and its usualy wrong, the worlds veiw.
But the world and people are differnt, and i spend allot of time listening especialy when i hear truth, i get exited and well its like recess for me in school.
Reason why is it makes me remember when i hear Truth as well as honest seeking of Truth, when i hear lie's or feal like a lie is taking place i get very agitated and angry, it is a natural responce. A difficulty i have with this sensitivity is when some know of it the fear me, some it is only out of how theyve been condistioned and if they would be themselves and let go of there fear and be honest then i to can be more myself, that is how it works,,,,,,,,,,,and i have to accept that,,,,,,,,im kinda like a thermastat, if others are being truthfull and loving i am more my true self, but when around lie's and such i get a bit scarry looking and deadly.
it is weird, and i catch some catching there words because they have gotten a false guilt message and that is why some conflict is the conditioned fear of people like me.
see how crazy it is, but when people realize that im kinda like one of those Gentle giants the ease up and i heal a bit more,,,,,,,,,,another oddity, it seems i reflect back death when around lie's,,,,,,,,,,,,i reflect what there lie's and participation in them will ultimatly bring so i am trying to break the conditioning they put me through, so i to have to work on it ,,,, but ive found i have to have peers, i need to have my tribe, or round table to not only learn from me and how to properly use there gifts but to also teach me as well as touch on area's that i might reflect things that need to be toned down a bit.

just part of my armour and gifts that have been manipulated to a pavlovian responce type thing, but i allowed it a bit, well allot, i had to, but as in all method acting type things using truth to portray a charecture type based on a core thing or hurt,,,,,,,,so it is part of what they wanted and used against me and others,,,,,,,,,,,,but God kept wispering in my ear dont worry it is going to be turned on them, just as in the scriptures, the story of the coat of many colors, do you remembe being in that hole, yes i do, and i remember were you put me from there to save my family and tribe.
So in times of need God would show me some things burried in me and reminde me to listen to my heart.
And all this also keeps me humble, you see i need the many just as the many need the one, and many become one.
The wise will become foolish and the foolish will be made wise.
And a little boy handed down the keys and authority to the Ancient in Years, and the saints and God's people were being tormented until the Ancient in Years came to the saints and blessed them, then with him the began to win.
i didnt quote them all but then the bible is a translation and a bit changed, and well the true word is written on the heart.

i jsut wanted to state a few things considering what is going on in my personal life as well as many others.

and remember, in God's kingdom, only God sits above everyone and has no Equal, but below him there is nothing in his realm not equal in his eye's, and Jehoel is the only one to ever look into the Eye's of God.

i have several names that are real and true, Jehoel is one and the one hardest to accept, but it is the culmination of all the others includeing Kimball.
another one is TaWiyaka(singing feather)the firs man created from a mud puddle and a feather, as a song was sang by Holy Spirit is the best translation i can give.
THe focus i have now is more upon Tawiyaka, can also translate to Jehoel, what im refernced as in bible is heavenly son of man, people need to understand Christ comes after my victory over Satan not before, and as is written in scriptures i lead the people into the temple to welcome christs return,,,,,,,as the name kimball meens, Bright shining hound of God, mans best friend and only loyal to his master God, as well as voice of, and chief of heavenly choir,,,,,,,,,it is a bit much i know and to be in human form kinda is a bit of a weird thing, but then even in heaven im said to be known as Heavenly Son of Man,,,,,,,,,,as Christ is Son of God on earth, i am son of man in heaven,,,,,,,and well it makes sense all the way around, even to the point that Satan tried to create his own versions through the neflim,,,,,,,,,i cannot do what christ did, i cannot complete the law as he did because of my angelic nature in my maternal area, hard to explain it all.

it takes those spiritualy evolved and having knowledg of dali lama status to imediatly understand allot of what i speak, but i know of many missplacd what may be called BRahma familys, as stated in scriptures of the scatter people.

so my intent for this message is for others to find there true place as well as those that have had thoughts of such things might find there truth, as well as those that have been led to believe fanciful thoughts might find a new direction.

i say Dali Lama status because if the are true to there own place then they understand about other's similar to themselves and also meditate on the obstcals of such things, as well as how these truths are expressed in other cultures and story's.

but i also know of the split of budhism, and islam, christianity and vedic stuff, the confusion's and wars between many factions and Ego's.


it sucks i think to be me because of the simple fact for me to be me would als meen that others have to be true to themselves or they could not be around this incarnation of Rama, why is because im the destroyer of confusion and death,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so just by natural order of things.

[owls]

owl
ohwell
low
and so on ...

stuff of interest? no i just analyzed your nickname and as your mind might have recognized you analyzed mine well too. it's fun how you play with the words and mistakes.

goat I mean those ones who are responsible for anything that happened to us
the unability to take things as they are, accepting that we don't know anything even we've read every book ever written

bad news for christs:
ther's no incarnation for them. that means we start from zero.

[kimball13]

owl
ohwell
low
and so on ...

stuff of interest? no i just analyzed your nickname and as your mind might have recognized you analyzed mine well too. it's fun how you play with the words and mistakes.

goat I mean those ones who are responsible for anything that happened to us
the unability to take things as they are, accepting that we don't know anything even we've read every book ever written

bad news for christs:
ther's no incarnation for them. that means we start from zero.


not a nickname real name.

the 13 is for many reasons, i dont choose things that are not truthfull when speaking of myself.

about others is usualy a question, it is on others to speak truth just as the consequences for untruth.

your refernce to no reincarnation for Christs is strange and shows a prejeduce towards them, or are you ignorant of there ignorance of there own books.

i was right then in assuming you havent read the thread or the other thread, and well ive knowing knowing everything is God's job not mine.

But if i know something and God wants it to be known that is God's choice.

some time ago a minister told me to hold back, dont explane something in complete form leave something for them to desire and come back for, my thoughts on tha are simple, this isnt a same bat time same bat channel episode this is peoples spiritual health,,,,,,,,,,if Great Spirit gives me a specific teaching to give i give it in the completist form i am given it.

but im definatly not perfect.

and my reading of books, well i havnt realy read as much as others, but on some things i read indepth, i also know a little about allot, i find that is better than knowing allot about a little;).

and word games, i dont know much about other than i dont like them.

if i use words artistically they usually are exactly what they are.

most of it is rough draft on my posts, and as well you may have been able to see that my edjucation is not to formal.

so owls i should let you know, i dont play.

im not some attention seeker, and well i know some are just being playfull but if it is that then please read the thread and the othe thread and use that playfull energy to play sherlock holmes.

and as far as goats go in my life it has to do with that pleasant movie men who stare at goats.

so i suppose in that context it is the same as you describe, funny huh,,,,,,,,just mine has to do with some of thos dark projects done to some.

Dormouse is rather good timeing, i am greatfull for that considering tha is when i decided to post my Xrayz and the chip implat proof.

to tie together my previouse posts.

and as far as Christ goes, well there was only one.

the others close to his position were of the order of Melcezedeck, i suppose Enoch could fit that catagorie,,,,,,,,,,,,,but in the scriptures there is found reincarnations/incarnations of holy people or the traces left in statements when someone asks are you Abraham returned or moses or enoch, eljah, etc.

so it is rather intersting when the mind set of Sherlock is put to the real test.

i do hope my assumptions that you are intelegent and a bit playfull is true, i do hope you are a good currouse though and not one to just try to add to a coverup that has taken place.

just so you know, i dont like others beign caught in the crossfire, and well ive tried to warn others, and wave them off and let them know this isnt some low level stuff and in you stick you nose in here you might be recruited by someone and not even know which side recruted you.

just a warning that i think i can state clearer especialy now that the Dormouse stuff has come out.

it is realy strange how ive managed to skirt classified information without crossing the lines, while still stateing the harm done to my person since childhood, do you know how tricky that is, and then waiting for it to be declassified so you can speak on it in more detail,,,,,,,,,,,,,and you never know how it wil come out, sometimes its o the news, sometimes under names i find very strange.

and the choice of words, Dormouse is an interesting name for an operation.

and you know what i think allot of people involved are releived it may be over, and well imagine it,,,,,,,,,,i dont know how that iwll happen, i meen we see what happens when those involved in programing and controlling go rogue.

but in my case some are only actors and that is most of all they did along with some pcycological warfare, but i heal up well,,,,,,,,,,,and well there ability's and gifts are better used for something other than coverup for just me, and then there mental health and spiritual health will return.

imagine the stress some of them are under,,,,,,,,,,not all,,,,,,,,,some like it,,,,,,,,they like play acting gets them laid and looked at like some kinda superman, its weird, and they know if im not backing down or turning the other cheek there is no turning it, its weird, its almost as if they know when they have reached a point of no return and there bosses have realy set them up as just cannon fodder.

[kimball13]

now that should explain why Rama heals his attackers, because he knows they only attack out of ignorance and some of them will change there ways.

and if they wont change and are truly demonic then there arrogance will truely show itself at how they survived and are healthy again, healthyier than they were before they attacked.
So basicaly this gives them no excuse for continuing there evil ways, and if they use there new found health for evil then it will come back on them even quiker.

it sounds like dirty tricks on my part in a sense, well its not dirty, its just hard ball.

and that is the way God made it, it gives one last opportunity to change,,,,,,,,,ive seen them go insane, and other such things, and it is quike,,, and if they have a concience they soon figure out that changing there ways and getting honest and correcting the wrong the did will give them there health and sanity back, it is weird but true.

it is like what ive known since childhood, if i am living in Truth and Faith my mind and health will not fail me in times of need especialy.

the 13 is for the Templars as well as the Our Lady of Guadeloupe prophecy of 13 family's that will save mankind.

13 is the last one, the man bringing up the rear i suppose, i cant remember everything.

oh and other strange coincedences like 13th baktun.

it is also the letter M, my middle initial.

i also see 13 as being the 12 tribes coming together as the 13th tribe.

it is also King Arthur, he wasnt one of the 12 knights of the round table, but he is the 13th warrior at the table yet he is also a King a maker of Knights.

so reading into my nickname, it may help to know it is my realy last name, and well i was shown to be truethfull, yet cautiose, and well not hidden other than in plane sight.

So, Kimball13 now that ive gone into an explanation of that loops it all back to King Arthur, funny how that keeps happening, is that programing or my DNA.

[owls]

Hey there!

Did you change somehow or is it me? Your sentences become more and more clear to me in every post. I reminded at the beginning where I had no clue what you're talking about.

But it's great to see that you're on a good way.
What do you think could have happened to you that someone's implanted you that chip?
Sometimes they cause traumata artificially and make your memory lacking.
On the other side, there could be medicaments eraseing those from your head.
Do you get psychological treatment?

Have you seen "Rain Man"? What do you think of this film?

[kimball13]

Hey there!

Did you change somehow or is it me? Your sentences become more and more clear to me in every post. I reminded at the beginning where I had no clue what you're talking about.

But it's great to see that you're on a good way.
What do you think could have happened to you that someone's implanted you that chip?
Sometimes they cause traumata artificially and make your memory lacking.
On the other side, there could be medicaments eraseing those from your head.
Do you get psychological treatment?

Have you seen "Rain Man"? What do you think of this film?


a lack of stress causes my memories and such to come back.

ive had a hard road to hoe.

that chip, well it was put in after i displayed gifts as well as intelect and such, my mother feared me as a boy.

those dreams of Rama, and such.

kinda like the movie Fire starter is more like it, the rain man stuff, well that is also why the fear me i am a bit like a savant yet without the autism.

i have a center brain thinking in both the hemiphere's and frontal lobes and reptilian, just a bit over towards the male end of things though, such as 45%on one side, all i remeber of the results were the important stuff, instead of the left right remebering i remember the female male.

This is usually found in mostly women, the center brain thinking.

The level of abstract reasoning i tested at is confused for schizophrenia, until the one confused checks the facts, you know like when someone comes to an answer long before you even see the question that is going to formulate due to the external stimuli developing in the environment.


What would you do with a little boy that knew things about social sciences, martial arts, warfare, pcycology, God, spirituality, and had dreams of being leaders, warriors, holy men, even some that may be considerd devine by some.

now also consider this was early 70's in sanfransisco, and i was around allot of the scene, as well as in and out of hospitals.

Dormouse is what is the linch pin in the nearly nonsensical posts in the two threads, such as Historical king arthrur coverup.

But at the beginng i had to detox from depacote first, the were trying to screw me up anyway they could and even there diagnosises would be opposite of prior ones and every time the treatment would come first then the symtomology next, the reason for the begining of any treatments was due to severe amounts of durres and such.


But now im barely holding on as far as living arrangments, bills, medical needs,


This is why im not being assisted and why even past victims of other programs are coersed and paid to harm me and such,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Operation Dormouse.

to coverup the more extensive and torturouse Artichoke programs.

as i mentioned i was conditioned to go into a state of amesia when tortured to a point beyond my endurance, and this is why Dick Cheney and Donald Rumsfeild probley durring there time in power recently uped the efforts to keep me in an amnsiatic state or if possible cause my death and well i dont know anyone that has gond threw what ive gone threw, i think maybe only Fidel Castro survived anywhere near the amount of attempts on my life.

i shit you not.

So as Dick and others loose there networks and credibility my life gets better.

So, i wonder you think the American public is going to choose Dick Cheney and Donald Rums-field over me now that they know who orchestrated this shit storm, what did i do, i was only a child, what would i have to do with any of there prior crimes, or was i already in there plans and they started the dormouse to provide cover for what they were doing to me.

nah.

never, ohwell, donesnt matter, what matters is it stops.

at this point if i had a choice between taking Bin Laden down and Dick Cheney, who do you think i would take down.

the reason why is you take away what the Jihad is fighting and they will see that the realy Americans are not evil, and we do believe in the One True God in Heaven.

and after this info, it is obviouse what Nazi's have done.

and where did Dick and Donald,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,heheheheheheheh,,,,,,,,,,, ,get it Donald Dick.

i still believe in certain things, and hold true to them, reason is ive been that baby that had to survive being thrown out with the bathwater many times.

Like i mentioned before, the political and international mess of it all coming out would happend as ive mentioned in past posts in both threads.


Rama.
King Arthur.
just two reasons.
next ones, family of hero's.
both sides worked in very sensitive things that contributed to winning WW2 as well as CT and HR, includeing Torpedo's, Trains, Piano's, probley the best bussiness.

in the late 90's it was made public who the original famly of BRiton is, as in the real King Arthur line.

as well as high level Templar/Masonic family,,,,


And by the Queens own admission as well as many of the Royal houses of Europe the lay there claims based on being related to me.

so by just plane logic that would make me the rightfull one to hold the crown of England and Scotland, there are several others attachted, it is a triple crown realy, the third one is Jerusalem.

i found out about my true birthright for the first time in 2003.

then i had to accept it, that took until 2008 until i was ready to truely accept in and begin to lay a claim, and well as it happens by just basic bumbling(not realy, actualy faith) i started posting on this forum and stateing my birthright.



and well it is based in the UK therefore i did make my claim on UK soil:eek::D


our of respect i wont denie Diana's boys there true birthright as duke's, i think this is partly why they murdered her, she is a counsin of my family, her blood is of a duke house,,,,,,,,,,,,,forgive my terminology, i prefer to speak the essense of things of such nature.

so if the MK-Ultra programs were a sacraficial lamb for the ones that came under the Artichoke programs, and these came out of Nazi Germany, one other coincedence with my life and case is Hitlers facinations with King Arthur,,,,,,that was part of his SS archeologists hunt's.

I think it may also have to do with the secrets the Preist found in Renee Le Chateau.



but that stuff is not as important as well, some if not allot of the ops to keep me stressed have died down a bit, but some still occurs, but it is getting better, might have to do with the Queens money dwindiling as well as Maddoff out, and those CIA credit cards foundmissing, as well as you never know maybe even a bit of russian money.

the manipulations and such to cause even more durress have started to die down a bit, but others have continued.

and this Dormouse coming out shows that the coverup operation i suspected occurring was really happening, i just Wonderd how high up it realy was, and to See Cheney's and Rumsfields names at the begining and well wasnt rumsfield FBI or something.

Ya what Was Dick up to durring Bush Jr's presidency, he was attending to his little coverup, me.

dont meen to sound a bit upset, but im not anymore, im all about justice now.

[kimball13]

oh i should make it clear, by Legal Justice.

[kimball13]

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i just came across this, has to do with some cyber attack being talked about by something Called dormouse exchange,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,now you ask what this may have to do with all of this, well this facebook page talks about the first computer virus created 26 years ago.

that would be around the time i went from SF CA to Washington state:eek:


i just find it odd that i would come across something such as this, and all thats on it is computer virus stuff and pictures of Dormice.

oh you could go to there store.

http://thedormouseexchange.highwire.com/

[kimball13]

this is flat out insane and well kinda says the extent of there comunications channels and how they veiw us, rodents, cute and cudly but nothing but mice. i just wonder if there chips are like mine. assholes.

http://www.thefreelibrary.com/Microchip+trackers+will+nibble+away+at+dormouse+se crets.-a0137988704
IT'S the stuff of science fiction and spy thrillers: Welsh dormice are being equipped with James Bond-style technology.

Tiny microchips have been implanted into 87 dormice to afford a glimpse into their secretive livestyles on two sites, Bontuchel near Ruthin and Wych Brook near Wrexham.

Conservationists want data on life expectancy, population size, breeding success and the movements of these rare creatures.

The 8mm microchips, read with a special scanner, identify each animal with a unique number.

[kimball13]

here is a bit of something also telling and offensive to me personaly and shows there level of dissrespect so they are due none by anyone anymore.




example that last post well i noticed something, old family names of my ansestors, kings of Briton.

The Countryside Council for Wales (CCW; Welsh: Cyngor Cefn Gwlad Cymru (CCGC)) is an Assembly Sponsored Public Body. It is the Welsh Assembly Government's wildlife conservation authority for Wales. It acts as a statutory advisory and prosecuting body, and aims to sustain natural beauty and wildlife and provide opportunities for outdoor enjoyment of the Welsh landscape and its inshore waters.



not that any spy code talk or anything about dormouse coverup heh.




IT'S the stuff of science fiction and spy thrillers: Welsh dormice are being equipped with James Bond-style technology.

Tiny microchips have been implanted into 87 dormice to afford a glimpse into their secretive livestyles on two sites, Bontuchel near Ruthin and Wych Brook near Wrexham.

Conservationists want data on life expectancy, population size, breeding success and the movements of these rare creatures.

The 8mm microchips, read with a special scanner, identify each animal with a unique number.

Experts at Chester Zoo and from the Countryside Council for Wales
are involved in the two-year operation.

Matthew Ellis, CCW species and biodiversity officer, said: "To minimise stress the dormice are carefully removed from nest boxes, where they sleep during the day, and anaesthetised before being microchipped.

"They are then given oxygen to bring them round and put back in their nests. The whole process takes less than 10 minutes

CAPTION(S):

Dormice at two North Wales sites are being fitted with microchips by researchers keen to add to knowledge of the reclusive



creatures

[kimball13]

funny hahahahahha, An Apache tracks computer geeks.


ohwell guese it is pretty obviouse, lets go on worlds deadliest warriors and see if a computer geek can win in a fight to te death with an Apache/Pendragon/Merovingian.



Excellent Material but The Guy Needs an Editor!!, August 24, 2005
By Fabio G. Rojas "Fabio Rojas"
This review is from: What the Dormouse Said: How the 60s Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer (Hardcover)
"What the Dormouse Said" is an excellent book about two research groups based around Stanford. The two groups developed many of the key components of modern computing, and were closely linked to the counter-culture of the 1960s that flourished near Stanford.

I was quite excited to read this book. I learned a great deal of things, from the relatively minor (e.g., the origin of the word "mouse") to the extremely important (e.g., how the personal computer was a radical departure from the concept of shared computing). The book is full of keen observations about the odd individuals and groups that were responsible for making the jump from mainframes to the personal computer.

However, the book suffers from a huge problem, which others have poitned out. The book doesn't have consistent themes that pull all the anecdotes and fascinating history together. Good non-fiction books usually have three levels of organization: big ideas that motivate the entire tome; themes that link material between and within chapters; and clear sentence level writing.

The book has the big idea and it is clearly written on the level of sentences and paragraphs, but you get lost reading through chapters. There are so many people that just appear and disappear that it's hard to keep track of them. I felt like the author was lazy and just dumped a lot of oral history on the page, without going through the process of finding strong organizing principles for the material. I found the book really frustrating to read.

It's a shame. A good editor could have really whipped this book into an outstanding work of non-fiction. One or two more rounds of writing and rewriting, and the book would really be outstanding. It's has all the right stuff... it's so close ...

To summarize:

If you love CS history, this book is a must have.

If you have a passing interest, it's worth only reading the early chapters on the genesis of the PC concept.

General readers can safely ignore this book, it's too meandering to catch the general reader's attention.





the fucked part is they had a way long head start, before i was born.


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What the Dormouse Said: How the Sixties Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry by John Markoff (Paperback - Feb 28, 2006)

Rockwell International...Where Business Gets Down to the Science of War. With a Foreword By G. William Domhoff by Paul, John Markoff, Roger Walke, John Woodmansee Fitzgerald (Paperback - Jan 1, 1975)

now i wonder what that could meen,,,,,,,,,,,,,1975-2006.



now also consider the ops started in 1996, the take over of the Templars by millitary egotists,,,as well as other things, i hear some went into something called SEagate some hunted my kind if we broke programing and were demaning not to be slaves anymore, you see for me its been since 76 at least they have used and abuse me, stolen intelectual proeperty and much more.

Waves of Democracy: Social Movements and Political Change (Sociology for a New Century Series) by John Markoff (Paperback - Feb 7, 1996)


Takedown by Tsutomu (with John Markoff) Shimomura (Paperback - 1995)



i dont know squate about this Markoff guy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but it is funny dont you think,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Markoff,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Madof f,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Roseoff,,,,,,,,,let me see how many other Off's are there.


gues to turn them off i gotta find all the off???????????/scarry thought,,,,,,,,,,,cood thing im sane or i might go after every person with a name that has Off in it.

dont worry im not that out of it.

alright this is getting weird, well im doing my research on this as i post, kinda my style i like realy time stuff and raw to the vet later and see if its correct.
http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/gelernter09/gelernter09_index.htmlLORD OF THE CLOUD
John Markoff and Clay Shirky talk to David Gelernter
An Edge Roundtable
n June, 2000 Edge published David Gelernter's audacious "The Second Coming: A Manifesto", in which he wrote: "Everything is up for grabs. Everything will change. There is a magnificent sweep of intellectual landscape right in front of us".



so are they talking about computers taking over the place of God.

now look at the time line, i mention the same time line, looks as if weve found the trail there boys.

maybe i should post the long ass post ive had sitting for the last 7 hours or so.

i just found this stuff online.


http://www.edge.org/3rd_culture/gelernter09/gelernter09_index.html
Gelernter's earlier work on his parallel programming language "Linda" (which allows you to distribute a computer program across a multitude of processors and thus break down problems into a multitude of parts in order to solve them more quickly) and "tuple spaces" underlies such modern-day systems as Sun's JavaSpaces, IBM's T-Spaces, a Lucent company's new "InfernoSpaces" and many other descendants worldwide.

By mid-'92 this set of ideas had taken hold and was exerting a strong influence . By 1993 the Internet was growing fast, and the Web was about to be launched. Gelernter's research group at Yale was an acknowledged world leader in network software and more important, it was known for "The Vision Thing", for the big picture.

In June '93 everything stopped for Gelernter when he was critically injured by a terrorist mailbomb. He was out of action for the rest of '93 and most of '94 as the Web took off, the Internet become an international phenomenon and his aggressive forecasts started to come true. Gelernter endured numerous surgeries through 95, and then a long recuperation period.


any ways, its a real give away, the whole Dormouse thing i suppose as well as time frame,,,,,,,,,,i dont realy care what they think or if its provable, they did to me what they did without any dam proof.


now i know exatly why all the computer problems and why such things have occured.


it is evedent that the extent of the coverup is deep and includes many in subcultures and counter cultures working for the very men they call enemy's to there respective sub-cultrures/countercultures.


kinda like having a peeksy in a meeting where you see an aryan brotherhood leader and black pather leader having a drink whith an indian and there talking about how they can keep the fools paying for there lavish lifestyle.

hahahhahahahha.


ya all sides, all of them can be followed up to the top and you know what they hate, all of you any of you any race all of it, if you dont give them pleasure or provide the resorces for there lusts they use you to die.

[kimball13]

well it all adds up, i have a hard time looking at myself, always thought id be a bit differnt, or i should say someone else, as in maybe like the Dali Lama or something.


but then i look at it, who would be able to shut down programs like Artichoke or other such programs.

desinged to create Jason Bourns.

now questing is what kinda smart mofo or whatever type you want to think could bring it down.

and what were they thinking, youd think they would have given me a feather lined cage to keep me fat and happy oblivously unaware,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,or maybe they didnt have a clue of who they were doing it to.

is that what that one guy counted on, he knew Who Rama was in history.

could it be that simple, kinda like ok youse guys what to turn this one ito a what, well good luck keeping him under control.

every time i look at it all i then see how the differnt parts of me personaly can become there biggest nightmare.

such as my linage, as well as gifts and past life memories, the few i have left.

decendant of let me see,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, firt kinds of Briton, as in King Arthur, as well as War Eagle and Sitting bull on this continent, just three to name.

then the othe little things.

now if it ever came out how i was being held prisoner and tortured constantly, and its being done by Artichoke style programs, with Dormouse to run interferance and then they also recruite and such mk-ultra victims,,,,,,,,,it is multi layerd, and some may have known ht extent, but now they do.

its been 8 years of warning them to turn from there evil ways,,,,,,,,,,,,,im talking dirrectly warning them,,,,,,,,as well as letting them know it can be vey hard and permanant if they keep it up, but if the submit and confess, publicaly and make reparations then i think it might go a bit easier,,,,,,,,,,,,,but how do you say that in a humble way.


tell me anyone can you answer that,,,,,,,,,,,,and wel the right answer is first you have to know the differnce between a humble Warrior King and a groveling demon, or i should say a pre-groveling demon,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and youd be suprised how similar they maylook,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the demon gets all arrogant and throwing false empty threats around,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then that demon is destroyed:D

A WArrior King will rant and rave without dirrectly threatening, only stateing the consequences of you own actions.

Actions that threaten the kings kingdom, or a stolen crown, a Warrior king will at times Stand at his enemy's gates demanding return of his stolen property and his people being held hostage as well as give them an out they might not recieve again nor from any others.

similar to the way Lincoln called for the surrender of the south.

But they became addicted to the Crown, they think it has power and such and that me without mine have non and it is only a figure head bloodline lost in antiquety and should not matter much covering it up and stealing my birthright,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well i say ok lets see about that, what does God say about crowns being stolen and who comes around and takes them back.

well he is described just as Rama is to return.

oh but then most have rested on there laurels and expect it all to be done for them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and even if the do get up and do something,,,,,,,,,,,i have this to say, What have you done to help me lately, as in dirrect help,,,,,,,,,,,,,,for example i will run out of colostomy bags in a couple of months because i cant get a simple prescription filled by a doctor so i can recieve my colostomy suplies,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so this shows me how desprate Donald Dick is getting,,,,,,,,,,,,,oh Donald Dick are the first names at the top of the list of who is responsible for allot of this in my personal life,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,1975 ring a bell,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,as i stated this started realy around age 5-6,,,,,,,,,,,which is 75-76,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the start up and singing off of Operation Dormouse to coverup the ARtichoke programs.

So all that stuff about Satanism and such being at the root of all this, you dont know how true that realy is,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and also why they fear me so much and have tried to keep me unstable emotionaly and in doubt as well as constantly subdueing myself and such,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,its called true leadership to not send you army out against your enemy until your sure they are an enemy and its not just a simple missunderstanding,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,ya its just like that,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,just like when you see our president meet with the russian primeminister or other heads of state of country's we have an uneasy relationship.


and then the Crowns, three just on my Dads Side, a couple of warbonnets on moms side.

but those three crowns i think might bee ,,,,,,,,,,,,Britton(england scottland)Frankish, Jerusalem.

So there you have three crowns of three magical spiritual peoples, Celtic, Merovingian,Davidic.

all of which i only uncoverd by observing the ways i was being attacked and for what,,,,,,,,,,,,so i researched and what i found was a bit strange, reason is i heard story's, and family kinda mythology elludeing to such things but not definate.


So the way's ive come to accept this have been very strange.

and has never realy conflicted with any of my core beliefs and heart,,,,,,,,,,,,,,since childhood ive always felt protective over Christ,,,,,,,,,,,,,and well that is why my Celtic ansestor united the Celtic Tribes to hold the romans off,,,,,,,,,,,,,same time Rome and such were crusifieng the jews and christians,,,,,,,,,,,,,and well Mary Magedeline moved to the Celtic lands after the Resurection along with Joseph of Aramathia.


So this is what is a great weight on my shoulders because i know when i drop that burden then all that is attached to it will go with it.

those inequety's of your deeds if any one is still doing it they will go with it.

and ive always know of the extensive compartmentalization of it all, wow i speld the compartmentalization word right off the bat i wonder why.

anyways due to that ive know many dont know what they do, just as Christ Cried out to God to forgive them,,,,,,,,,,,,,,good thing he did or i wouldve said fuck it back in i think aorund early 90's and let a certain unit go Nuclear, ya that fucking seriose aholes.


Even then i didnt know the extent of it all and well good thing, the reason why is i dont know how or what would have happend if i had the same understanding now then.

would i have been mature enough, or would i just say kill them all and let God sort it out.

and after reveiwning the last two years and my battles, fighting for just my civil rights.

the amount of prejeduces ive endured by everyone realy.

But what most have been taught is i would be Christ,,,,,,,,,,,,,no first we have to do the Work, Jesus did His Job, now its your turn.

that is even what is written, or at least what is left and is disernable even with all of the changes and stuff taken out, there is still enough left there for those with eye's to see and ears to hear.

one Example of the FBI's involvment, the year after i was Named Fire Chief By a Chief infront of Tribe and elders as well as chiefs of other tribes,,,,,,,then next year the FBI raided the sundance.

one thing i want to point out before i start a background rundown on Donald Dick,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i just noticed Donald was the 13th sec of defence, and as the 21st, both numbers play a significant role in all of this,,,,,,,,,,,,,also a bit of fibonaci, there are clue's all threw this, just because im still alive i want it picked apart and all party's looked at, you know do what you do so well.

there are numbers, symbolse, visions, prophecys,,,,,,,,,,,common even though my writting isnt up to english major standards it does make you use you brain and heart to tell you exatly what im trying to say.







Donald Henry Rumsfeld (born July 9, 1932) is an American businessman, retired Navy Fighter Pilot, diplomat, and politician who served as the 13th Secretary of Defense under President Gerald Ford from 1975 to 1977 and as the 21st Secretary of Defense under President George W. Bush from 2001 to 2006. He is both the youngest (43 years old) and the oldest (74 years old) person to have served as Secretary of Defense as well as the only person to have served in the position for two non-consecutive terms. Overall, he was the second longest serving defense secretary behind Robert McNamara. Rumsfeld was White House Chief of Staff during part of the Ford Administration and also served in various positions in the Nixon Administration. He served four terms in the United States House of Representatives, and served as the United States Permanent Representative to NATO. He was an aviator in the United States Navy between 1954 and 1957 before transferring to the Naval Reserve. In public life, he has served as an official in numerous federal commissions and
councils.



funy Donald Then Dick.
In office
September 1974 – November 1975
President Gerald Ford
Succeeded by Dick Cheney
He did a two-year stint with investment banking firm A. G. Becker from 1960 to 1962

and here is 13 again, you see a formulae they seem to be trying to create in there lives, or is it narural and why there influence, im not sure.

Member of Congress
Rumsfeld was elected to the United States House of Representatives for Illinois' 13th congressional district in 1962, at the age of 30, and was re-elected by large majorities in 1964, 1966, and 1968.[12]
In the Congress, he served on the Joint Economic Committee, the Committee on Science and Aeronautics, and the Government Operations Committee, as well as on the Subcommittees on Military and Foreign Operations. He was also a co-founder of the Japanese-American Inter-Parliamentary Council.[13]
As a young Congressman, Rumsfeld attended seminars at the University of Chicago, an experience he credits with introducing him to the idea of an all volunteer military, and to the economist Milton Friedman and the Chicago School of Economics.[14] He would later take part in Friedman's PBS series Free to Choose.[15]



this would put him in circles my Grandfathers traveld in, especialy the Kimball side.




Rumsfeld resigned from Congress in 1969 — his fourth term — to serve in the Nixon administration as Director of the United States Office of Economic Opportunity, Assistant to the President, and a member of the President's Cabinet (1969–1970); named Counselor to the President in December 1970, Director of the Economic Stabilization Program; and member of the President's Cabinet (1971–1972).


here is some more telling information about Rumy.



In 1971 Nixon was recorded saying about Rumsfeld "at least Rummy is tough enough" and "He's a ruthless little bastard. You can be sure of that."[16][17][18][19][20]
In February 1973, Rumsfeld left Washington to serve as U.S. Ambassador to the North Atlantic Treaty Organization (NATO) in Brussels, Belgium. He served as the United States' Permanent Representative to the North Atlantic Council and the Defense Planning Committee, and the Nuclear Planning Group. In this capacity, he represented the United States in wide-ranging military and diplomatic matters.


now pay close attention, i only glanced and saw not only many dates and subjects that dirrectly were part of my story, so i wonder what would be there if other eye's were on it, or if i looked even closer.


Business
From 1977 to 1985 Rumsfeld served as Chief Executive Officer, President, and then Chairman of G. D. Searle & Company, a worldwide pharmaceutical company based in Skokie, Illinois. During his tenure at Searle, Rumsfeld led the company's financial turnaround, thereby earning awards as the Outstanding Chief Executive Officer in the Pharmaceutical Industry from the Wall Street Transcript (1980) and Financial World (1981). In 1985, Searle was sold to Monsanto Company. Rumsfeld is believed to have earned around $12 million from this sale.[26]
Rumsfeld served as Chairman and Chief Executive Officer of General Instrument Corporation from 1990 to 1993. A leader in broadband transmission, distribution, and access control technologies for cable, satellite and terrestrial broadcasting applications, the company pioneered the development of the first all-digital high-definition television (HDTV) technology. After taking the company public and returning it to profitability, Rumsfeld returned to private business in late 1993.
From January 1997 until being sworn in as the 21st Secretary of Defense in January 2001, Rumsfeld served as Chairman of Gilead Sciences, Inc. Gilead Sciences is the developer of Tamiflu (Oseltamivir), which is used in the treatment of bird flu.[27] As a result, Rumsfeld's holdings in the company grew significantly when avian flu became a subject of popular anxiety during his later term as Secretary of Defense. Following standard practice, Rumsfeld recused himself from any decisions involving Gilead, and he directed the Pentagon's General Counsel to issue instructions outlining what he could and could not be involved in if there were an avian flu pandemic and the Pentagon had to respond.[28][29][30]




now i wonder why he wold do such a fucking thing.


Rumsfeld was named Defense Secretary soon after President George W. Bush took office in 2001. He immediately announced a series of sweeping reviews intended to transform the U.S. military into a lighter force. These studies were led by Pentagon analyst Andrew Marshall.



ya i remember all that crap, fuck, what are they thinking,,,,,,,,,,,its like letting the local drug dealer be the principle for you Junior high school.


So, now ask yourself, what the fu,,,,,,,,,,then remember what Nixon said about Donald.

n 1971 Nixon was recorded saying about Rumsfeld "at least Rummy is tough enough" and "He's a ruthless little bastard. You can be sure of that."


by the way Deep Throat lived right down the road next to Bohemian Grove and in the same town as Richard Strozzi Heckler i think is the name,,,,,,,,,owell just look up Trojan Warrior program/project, then think of the Marine Corps Motto,,,,,,,,,,Marine Corps, God, the Country,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,everyone else is God, Country, then the Rest,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,they have gone against the basic foundatoin of the constitution as well as God's law's,,,,,,,,,,,,,so all you against prayer think of this, youve sided with the Marine Corps mentality:rolleyes:

and who do they Guard, i think he is called the Pres, or well, at least the secret service is there.

it used to be the ARmy that Flew the President before the 1970's, can i make it any fucking simpler,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,the President has been held hostage to an extent since the 1970's minimum, and the sewed it up when they Got Ford to sign that coverup order informaly called operation dormouse.

they fucked with the wrong little boy, i am bringing them down and they will never rise again, there energy will be gone forever never to return, all creation is in agreement of this fact, now is the Human part, the choice as told of by many tribes, even the Mayan and Hopi, the Brahma's have even spoken of this time, when the true darma would no longer exist then one would come and that one would be the Incarnation of Lord Rama, he is called Kalki,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,funny, Kalel(superman) KI=as in Kimball, or life force, anyways, it is a bit weird seeing these things in my life, and well my Ego is what keeps from from accepting it, i think i should be better, smarter, more responsible, have better behavior, not cause some to fear me,,,,,,,,,,,,,damit i should be more like a Lama. Then a quiet voice say's to me that is your ego, you are you as you should be, you must know this, trust this in yourself, what does your heart tell you, what has your mind percieved then pushed out because of the ego in the mind, that ego you know is absent in your heart,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so Kimball rember this when you think your words are harsh, the truely harsh reality is if the continue, the may end up as those that knew what they were doing all along,,,remember this, your harshness at times and sharp words may cut the strings that bind them to those demonic energy's out there.


teach them that both negitive and positive are not good and evil, they are energy' of both.

both good and evil use both, it is how we use them that defines it.
you know its all a bit orwellian.

it is also said that the only one that can cut through this is the one that holds the Vajra, excalibur, sword of God, how do you want to say it,.

Destroyer of Death and Confusion.


Richard Bruce "Dick" Cheney[1] (born January 30, 1941) served as the 46th Vice President of the United States from 2001 to 2009 under George W. Bush. He briefly served as Acting President of the United States on two occasions during which Bush underwent medical procedures.


ouch, i wonder what he did when he served as acting president.

looks like some bloodline stuff goings on.

Cheney was born in Lincoln, Nebraska, the son of Marjorie Lorraine (née Dickey) and Richard Herbert Cheney. He is of predominantly English, Irish and Welsh ancestry; Cheney's 8th great-grandfather, William Cheney immigrated from England to Massachusetts in the 17th century.[2][3][4] Although not a direct descendant, he is collaterally related to Benjamin Pierce Cheney (1815-1895), the early American expressman. Cheney is a distant cousin of both Harry S. Truman and Barack Obama; the three share a common ancestor in Mareen Duvall, a Huguenot who fled from France to England in the 17th century and later settled in Maryland.[5]

Cheney's political career began in 1969, as an intern for Congressman William A. Steiger during the Richard Nixon Administration. He then joined the staff of Donald Rumsfeld, who was then Director of the Office of Economic Opportunity from 1969–70.[14] He held several positions in the years that followed: White House Staff Assistant in 1971, Assistant Director of the Cost of Living Council from 1971–73, and Deputy Assistant to the president from 1974–1975. It was in this position that Cheney suggested in a memo to Rumsfeld that the Ford administration should use the US Justice Department in a variety of legally questionable ways to exact retribution for an article published by The New York Times investigative reporter Seymour Hersh.[20][21]
Cheney was Assistant to the President under Gerald Ford. When Rumsfeld was named Secretary of Defense, Cheney became White House Chief of Staff, succeeding Rumsfeld.[14] He later was campaign manager for Ford's 1976 presidential campaign.[22]


do they tell on themselves in the long run, hay remember he shot his friend in the face, then his friend apologized to Dick for stepping in front of his shotgun.



Cheney and Schwarzkopf oversaw planning for what would become a full-scale US military operation. According to General Colin Powell, Cheney "had become a glutton for information, with an appetite we could barely satisfy. He spent hours in the National Military Command Center peppering my staff with questions."[33]



setting up his back doors and scape goats for later on down the road hay.


Shortly after the Iraqi invasion, Cheney made the first of several visits to Saudi Arabia where King Fahd requested US military assistance. The United Nations took action as well, passing a series of resolutions condemning Iraq's invasion of Kuwait; the UN Security Council authorized "all means necessary" to eject Iraq from Kuwait, and demanded that the country withdraw its forces by January 15, 1991.[42] By then, the United States had a force of about 500,000 stationed in Saudi Arabia and the Persian Gulf. Other nations, including Britain, Canada, France, Italy, Syria, and Egypt, contributed troops, and other allies, most notably Germany and Japan, agreed to provide financial support for the coalition effort, named Operation Desert Shield.[33]
On January 12, 1991, Congress authorized Bush to use military force to enforce Iraq's compliance with UN resolutions on Kuwait.[42]


looks like Dick advised Bush to leave and pack up during the first desert storm, i wonder why.

maybe he neaded a country like Iraqi kinda like a off limits inside and out place, you know like compton gets durring riot season, or now Oakland, sooner or later escape from new york mentality or something, and the amount of torture going on in Iraqi and Sadam getting away with it all and his son's,,,,,,,,,,,almost like Artichoke going into a country and setting up shop, .

After an air offensive of more than five weeks, the UN coalition launched the ground war on February 24. Within 100 hours, Iraqi forces had been routed from Kuwait and Schwarzkopf reported that the basic objective—expelling Iraqi forces from Kuwait—had been met on February 27.[43] After consultation with Cheney and other members of his national security team, Bush declared a suspension of hostilities



now i know for sure many out there know the role Halliburton played in all of this, this is the way those ops go, use a coporation as a front org, then jump ship, and it is sealed on both ends, presidential orders, and corporation unaccountability crap,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,A perfect exammple of there unacountability is BP Oil Spill,,,,,,,,,,,,looks like they want it to go to the wire, you know sea turning to blood kinda thing.


Between 1987 and 1989, during his last term in Congress, Cheney was a director of the Council on Foreign Relations foreign policy organization.[49]
With the new Democratic administration under President Bill Clinton in January 1993, Cheney left the Department of Defense and joined the American Enterprise Institute. He also served a second term as a Council on Foreign Relations director from 1993 to 1995.[49] From 1995 until 2000, he served as Chairman of the Board and Chief Executive Officer of Halliburton, a Fortune 500 company and market leader in the energy sector.
Cheney's record as CEO was subject to some dispute among Wall Street analysts; a 1998 merger between Halliburton and Dresser Industries attracted the criticism of some Dresser executives for Halliburton's lack of accounting transparency.[50] During Cheney's tenure, Halliburton changed its accounting practices regarding revenue realization of disputed costs on major construction projects.[51] Cheney resigned as CEO of Halliburton on July 25, 2000. As vice president, he argued that this step removed any conflict of interest. Cheney's net worth, estimated to be between $30 million and $100 million, is largely derived from his post at Halliburton, as well as the Cheneys' gross income of nearly $8.82 million.[52]
He was also part of the board of advisors of the Jewish Institute for National Security Affairs (JINSA) before becoming vice president.



In early 2000, while serving as the CEO of Halliburton, Cheney headed then-Governor of Texas George W. Bush's vice-presidential search committee. On July 25, after reviewing Cheney's findings, Bush surprised some pundits by asking Cheney himself to join the Republican ticket.[14] Halliburton reportedly reached agreement on July 20 to allow Cheney to retire, with a package estimated at $20 million.[53]
A few months before the election Cheney put his home in Dallas up for sale and changed his drivers' license and voter registration back to Wyoming. This change was necessary to avoid allow Texas' presidential electors to vote for both Bush and Cheney without contravening the Twelfth Amendment to the United States Constitution, which forbids electors from voting for someone from their own state for both President and Vice-President.





anyways, proof, they ask for proof, and well its all there, enough for any court to seek a case and a conviction, as wellas reparations,,,,,,,,,,,,ohdamit,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,The way it looks is the reparations and lawsuits i am entitled to, and an statutes have not run out because the harm and such is still continueing,,,,,,,,,,,,,it would meen that i would esencialy own most of the major coporations completely as well as more,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then even the English CRown and all that is attached to it, the Crown holds with it the largest land holding by one individual in the world,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so over night a complete world economic and land holding's would go into one persons hands:eek:

i knew it was big but this big, i had no idea, and well it is a bit scarry.

for them.

you know why, simple, i am text book world leader phcycologicaly speaking, ya what they try to portray tot he world, you know the carring and wise leadership kinda stuff.

ya there tests told them that i am a True leader, not some power hungry piece of shit, a type that wont attack his neighbor just because he wants to be glutonouse, if anything he will ask for help and in return offer what he has in his kingdom that he has in abundance, and while in agreement with his people, maybe not eye to eye all the time, but faithful and true.


i used there compartmentalizations to find things out.

example,,,,,,,,,,,those extensive month long tests in ST lou MO, one of the test givers was up for a promotion in the Marine Corps reserve, his promotion would make him the highest ranking officer.

Cut outs and such.

So maybe the center didnt know the real purpose of the tests and they told me in detail what they amounted to.

i wsa even offerd a fast track inot Quntico(intel college, for guess what)intel school for FBI and Marine Corps Intelegence,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so there you have it nice and neat.


you can even look up Richard Sparrow Eagle, Swallow,,,,STanding buffalo clan sundance raided by FBI, i think it was around 1997,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Pine Ridge reservation.

it WAs also Chief Richard Swallow(sparrow eagle) that named me Fire Chief, he also knew some of my gifts, and well he and i had a quiet understanding and knowing as well as his father and i also had a similar knowing in our hearts.

Sparrow Eagle even used to call me Merlyn, i asked him why, he said because he saw me with a beard and staff doing battle with an evil witch(he would say, Whore of Babylon)and i reminded him of the Celtic medicine man they call Merlyn,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,he was closer to the truth than even i was,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but i did kind smirt and think no close but im more like Arthur,,,,,,,,,,,so i think once or twice i wanted to blurt out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,, ,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Richard,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,Chief Richard Sparrow Eagle Your were Merlyn, you taught me Then as you did now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,i hope he and i can speak on this someday,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and maybe there was no merlyn then, ,.

But i think Richard is Merlyn, i felt chills of a personal truth, might also explain that even though all of the slander and things to cause division between me and the tribes i still hold a place in my heart for my teacher, the only true teacher ive ever had.

im getting real honest now,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,all other ways i have usualy exelled beyond my instructors very quikly and they had a hard time teaching me/keeping up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,maybe it is because Cerimony was my greatest teacher, but it is Richard(he who carries the foundation, is his name)that thaught me and knew me as a peer first and formost, and he learned just as he taught, but it was hard because we both knew that others could not understand, nor is it easly to talk about, this world does not understand the old ways, the traditional way's of Chiefs, Holy Men, Warrior's, or ways are scorened now adays because of all the negitive conotations of Kings and Warriors of any type, but then most have never seen it in realality, only read of it in books, noone knows any of the old ways.


that is said happend,,,,,,,,,,,,,,takes what one generation to subdue a culture then the next ones controle it and then change it to what they want,,,,,,,,,,anyways, i dont want to go into what we all know happens.

now back to Dick.




looks lke he got scared of Obama, i just want to say, what waris he talking about


Cheney sharply criticized Obama, stating "[W]e are at war and when President Obama pretends we aren't, it makes us less safe, [...] Why doesn't he want to admit we're at war?

it is because they are criminal acts according to the law, how do i know,,,,,,,,,,,,,,simple kimball also translates to wargod, and Rama was known for war as well as kalki.

most attacks are not at the targets, so the ones harmed are not the ones the terrorists are truely at war with, so it is criminal,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,you know like When that Apache Helocoptor on wikileaks shot incocents and people cry criminal act,,,,,,,,,,,,same fucking thing,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and Dick was VP wow.

During a February 14, 2010 appearance on ABC's This Week, Cheney reiterated his criticism of the Obama administration's policies for handling suspected terrorists, criticizing the "mindset" of treating "terror attacks against the United States as criminal acts as opposed to acts of war"


This is why i Like The current President, i like Obama for his wisdom on some matters, but it would be nice if he gave me a hand, i know Donald Dick are a pretty hand in allot of pots team but common, you think anyone is going to back any of them that did this to me, as well as others, after the service my family has given to America without any taking advantage of things we might have,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well i cant speak for the other kimballs now adays after all i dont see any of them helping me, never have.

Just my dad, ya and the uncanny resemblance i have to Charles Beckwith, ya the very same one, the founder of Delta force,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,so do you think Donald Dick scares me or BlackWater.

oh by the way Blackwater is in the town i live, see the stickers on some vehicles, ya creeeeeeepy,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,there subsidiary security firm TWo Feathers SEcurity,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,an self respecting native american would find great offence in this,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,then the Arizona Sweat lodge deaths connected to the Book "The SEcret" and the author connected to the Book Michael Beckwith, funny im not named michael nor am i black.

ohwell funny coincedence, and oh, maybe Chargin Charlie was a relitive, or who knows, maybe just like in the Arthur story im a product of two dads, same as the Daggobert story also, i know its weird but hay, im not haliburton, ide like to get my files from them on my genetics at least.

[kimball13]

now the dislcaimer time,,,,,,,,,,,,since ive had no realy legal help nor any advocacy and have had to compile it all myself as i go during survivla mode.

i think since i was tortured and also scapegoated without any trial nor legal reason by anyones part,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,it is up to those involved to prove there inocence, reason is they are guilty of something in this, so its either confess to there parts and make it right and make reparations or go down with the fucking titanic.

[kimball13]

here is what is not so funny,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,the latest Rambo movie is on TV right now, of course im watching it,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,mane reason is my Fathers memorie,,,,,,,,,,,,his fav movie,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,took me to see it at the drive in when it came out,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,my favorite was Dune at the time, rambo was alright, but my movie then other than Dune was Red Dawn,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,"wolverines" funny that is what Tom Brown JR calls the Apache fighting style.

[kimball13]

im only 31 seconds into there video and i know exactly the pcycological operations the speak of, damit there they are hiding behind some software programers, funny would you have ever thought that the Programers and Handlers would be computer software guys.

LORD OF THE CLOUD
John Markoff and Clay Shirky talk to David Gelernter
An Edge Roundtable



or they could be inocent and tapped into a spiritual resonance, well i suppose at some point they may have to answer to it all.


for the simple fact the name of that book




http://www.acm.org/ubiquity/interviews/v6i29_markoff.html

[John Markoff is author of the new best-seller "What the Dormouse Said: How the 60s Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry," and is a senior writer for The New York Times. His other books include "Cyberpunk: Outlaws and Hackers on the Computer Frontier" and "Takedown: The Pursuit and Capture of Kevin Mitnick, America's Most Wanted Computer Outlaw."]

UBIQUITY: Congratulations on "What the Dormouse Said" — it's a fascinating book. Tell us about it.

MARKOFF: Well, I guess I'd call it a revisionist history. It about things that happened around Stanford University between roughly 1960 and 1975, and is a kind of pre-history of personal computing and the personal computer industry. What I was trying to do was to get at some of the culture through which the technology was developed.

UBIQUITY: Why the cultural emphasis?

MARKOFF: Because technology never happens in a vacuum. The book was an effort to try to pin down how personal computing first emerged around the Stanford campus at two laboratories in the 1960's: one was run by John McCarthy, and was called the Stanford Artificial Intelligence Laboratory; and the other was run by Doug Engelbart and known as the Augmentation Research Center or the Augmented Human Intellect Research Center. Before there was Xerox PARC, which most people know about, and before the two Steves (Steve Jobs and Steve Wozniak) in the garage creating the Apple computer, many of the technologies that became the personal computer were developed in these two laboratories on either side of the Stanford campus during the 1960's. I tried to capture that work and the environment in which it took place, which was deeply influenced by the 1960's counterculture and by the anti-war movement.
MARKOFF: I went to Whitman College, a small liberal arts college in Walla Walla, Washington, and graduated from there in 1971.
MARKOFF: I grew up in Palo Alto, California, the heart of Silicon Valley. I went to school with Bill Hewlett Jr.
MARKOFF: I ran my college newspaper and then sort of went off in another direction for four years. I went to graduate school but came to realize that it was not the right place to be, because it was very academic and very vocational. So I decided I would try to start over again as a freelancer and make a career as a reporter. I was back in the Bay area by 1976 and ultimately fell into the early days of the personal computer world.


back in the bay area by 1976, how strange.
notice a few key things said as well as the timline.

i also seem to mention a computer i had around 83 somewhere in all my posts, as well as computer classes and i think a type of training i recieved at the SF CA museum, during early early 80's.

[kimball13]

so now i ask, is the real reason why i was called grace for this.
was it something that came out during my torture and they didnt understand it, maybe, strange there are several things at work, and i dont like anyof it.





UBIQUITY: Then let's close with the words from the Grace Slick/Jefferson Airplane song "White Rabbitt," which inspired the title of your new book:

"When logic and proportion
Have fallen sloppy dead
And the White Knight is talking backwards
And the Red Queen's 'Off with her head!'
Remember what the dormouse said:

Feed your head!
Feed your head!
Feed your head!"
And we'll remind people that your book is called "WHAT THE DORMOUSE SAID: How the 60s Counterculture Shaped the Personal Computer Industry."














http://www.dougengelbart.org/pubs/augment-3906.html
- AUGMENTING HUMAN INTELLECT: A Conceptual Framework, Douglas Engelbart October 1962

so now im wondering if some realize why ive found it so important to not give up and never will.

even if it meens going up against the Rumsfeilds and Cheney's of the world, if they harm the inocent intenitonaly then they have my focus, and i zoom in very nicely esepcialy when i have a sent:rolleyes:


so consider this guys, those that used to work for youse guys may find out there only hope for redemtion is to abandoned you's fools.

kinda like that Bloodless Coupe a few years back that a Royal asked the people to stand down and allow the millitary to clean up the politics,,,,,,,,,,,,well looks like i am the hereditary one of the two main super powers involved,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,England and USA.

funny how God works.

and france and jerusalem to boot in a funny round about way.

cant way for Jesus to get here and Sit on his Throne.

but not until it is safe, just as in written, and well think of Rambo having a son, and well you never know.

maybe i got all spiritual and found a bigger gun in God.

or maybe a bit of both, kinda goes with the Kalki things.

[kimball13]

just allot to consider, but also consider this is kinda like a set of notes.

but the way these notes are turning out, it looks as if they are right were they fell the first time on all levels, just now that the two top names have been found.


i woner if they are the Demons of Kali as spoken of in the prophecy, scary erie.

i dont like saying things like that because of the term and how it may seem a bit insane,,,,,,,,,,,,,,but hay look at it all.

ohwell, im sure the computer stuff will keep you all asleap thinking your awake.

like i always say, the man with one eye is either king or crazy in the land of the blind.

[kimball13]

and hay, i couldve went all terrorist so im pretty sure there are some greatfull for this simple way ive had to vent as well as use it to get shit done.


as i said, i was trained in Social influencing resistance, torture resistance, etc kinda crap, but they also made a way to make me kinda have a bit of amnesia.

this is going to sound a bit screwed up, but if it meens the human race or my citezen ship in the USA, i choose mankind,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and well being denied my basic human rights by those in the government and given no protections from there abuse and such it would not be giveing up much.


So what would happen if i went into a forenge embassy and asked for asylum and showed them my X-rays, and told them i started in Red Cell/ST6, moved on to intel for Delta.

and they looked at me for a moment and went to there data base and pulled up pictured of both Beckwith and Marcinko and then looked at me:eek:they would say of my fucking God is this Kid not only trained by them both but also related,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,well damit i liked the company so much i bought it, maybe a bit backwards.

nah just a bit of a funny.

but realy about the looks,,,,,,,,,,,,ah but which one after all if you look at them you might find they look a bit alike, but then you look at me and well its kinda messed up,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,and well many were paid to keep it a secret, but also from me, and they were not official Government types, but those like Blackwater.

how do i konw, well,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,around 2003 i recieved a spnosorship letter from DCIPS in a subnetmask protocal, now hoax or not i dont know but it was a doozy of a shock at the time.

and ive always said i would work for mill but not fed,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,as in fbi,,,,,,,,,,,i have my priority's and for some reason stear clear of agency's created on the foundation of lie's and blackmail.

so Millitary or NSA, why not, but no cia or fbi thank yu very much.

i will post some stuff on Kimball castle. here next.

[kimball13]

by the way, no real kimballs were involved in the worship of satan inthis episode:rolleyes:


Tweet divorced a kimball and the castle was hush money about his involvement in the founding of NSA. obviousley she didnt stay quite.

Bushes Human Sacrifices at the Kimball-Cherokee Castle
- Affidavit of Rev. Christian Jess A. LaVey, son of Anton LaVey, Founder of Church of Satan -
by Stew Webb, Aug 1, 2005
(Posted here by Wes Penre, Aug 4, 2005)



its a bit funny both a monatague and almost a quenvereish name.
Tweet Kimball –
Mildred Montigue Genevieve Kimball, also know as 'Tweet' Kimball, lived at Cherokee Ranch from 1954-1999.

BUSH-KNIGHT'S TEMPLARS HUMAN SACRIFICE

Council of 13


so you see how mirror and parralel programs work.


notice,,,,,,,,Kimball13 VS council of 13.

not funny is it.


BUSH SATANIC HUMAN SACRIFICE

December 22, 2001

June 21, 2002

December 22, 2002

SUMMER--WINTER SOLSTICE

KNIGHT'S TEMPLARS

BUSH'S DOING SATANIC WORSHIP

"TIFFANY LAMP MEETINGS"

KIMBALL CASTLE, SEDALIA, COLORADO







So you can see why some close to me thought i was of a satanic family by my last name, the thing is non of them are kimballs in all of this kimball castle stuff, only our name was used.



and well it cost me dearly, i am lucky i still have my head.

it was only my Faith in God that has carried me threw this, and non, not one asked me anything or had me take a look at there suspicions, it would have been esier if they trusted me but instead they decided to trust men like Ward churchill our of colorado of all places.

http://thescroogereport.files.wordpress.com/2007/07/ward-churchill.jpg

nice looking guy huh, looks like a hippie hitler.
and by the way the medicine wheal inthe back is upside down.

He described what he called the "technocratic corps at the very heart of America's global financial empire" in the World Trade Center as "little Eichmanns," i.e. as those who banally conduct their duties in the service of evil.
On May 16, 2006 the University released the findings of its Investigative Committee, which agreed unanimously that Churchill had engaged in "serious research misconduct", including falsification, fabrication and plagiarism. The committee was divided on the appropriate level of sanctions.[2] The Standing Committee on Research Misconduct accepted the findings of the Investigative Committee that Churchill had "committed serious, repeated, and deliberate research misconduct", but also disagreed on what sanctions should be imposed.[55] Churchill's appeal against his proposed dismissal was considered by a panel of the University's Privilege and Tenure Committee, which found that two of the seven findings of misconduct did not constitute dismissible offences. Three members recommended that the penalty should be demotion and one year's suspension without pay, while two favored dismissal.[



that man and a few others were dirrectly responsible for attempts on my life and sevaral other things.

along with attacking my religion and denieng me my religiose freedoms in a cover Cointelpro kinda way like he writes about,,,,,,,,,,,,looks like he is the agent provocature the claimed i was durring his famouse 911 speach with my teachers brother behind him no national TV.

prove you didnt say it, you said it on national TV as i was healing from a broken back that i had to hitchike from Chadron Nebraska to Rapid City south dakota and get on a bus back to california with severe injuries and interernal organ hemotoma.

so, those fans of some of those types beware of there ways and intentions, i saved some of there lives that he had nearly kill me by his and others concerted effort for many years to have me as a scapegoat for something, so now maybe we can call it WDD,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,weapon of donald dick, oh i meen Ward, Donald, Dick.

sorry but hay can you blame me, i think im being real nice and gentalmanly, after all im not threatening them, jsut making sure they get there day in court and are well aware of the charges and accusations made against them,,,,,,,,,,,,,and well that makes passing the sentance even tht much sweeter,,,,,,,,,,,because they have full access to a defense of which i did not,,,,,,,,,,,,,so there very defense is also my weopon.

now i ask you, who should indegeounouse peoples back in this, me or donald dick,,,,,,,,,,,,,,almost reminds me of the 49ers song,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,.


So i suppose the Kali in this might be the Queen, i dont ike saying tha about anyone but it fits in this story line,,,,,,,,,,,,,even down to what my teachers visions wsa of me fighting an evil witch,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,,funny in the Kalki prophecy it speaks of Kali and her two demons.

[kimball13]

i wonder why his heart troubles him so.







Cheney's long histories of cardiovascular disease and periodic need for urgent health care raised questions of whether he was medically fit to serve in public office.[121] Once a heavy smoker, Cheney sustained the first of five heart attacks in 1978, at age 37. Subsequent attacks in 1984, 1988, 2000, and 2010 have resulted in moderate contractile dysfunction of his left ventricle.[122] [123] He underwent four-vessel coronary artery bypass grafting in 1988, coronary artery stenting in November 2000, urgent coronary balloon angioplasty in March 2001, and the implantation of an implantable cardioverter-defibrillator in June, 2001.[122]
On September 24, 2005, Cheney underwent a six-hour endo-vascular procedure to repair popliteal artery aneurysms bilaterally, a catheter treatment technique used in the artery behind each knee.[124] The condition was discovered at a regular physical in July, and was not life-threatening.[125] Cheney was hospitalized for tests after experiencing shortness of breath five months later. In late April 2006, an ultrasound revealed that the clot was smaller.[124]
On March 5, 2007, Cheney was treated for deep-vein thrombosis in his left leg at George Washington University Hospital after experiencing pain in his left calf. Doctors prescribed blood-thinning medication and allowed him to return to work.[126]
CBS News reported that during the morning of November 26, 2007, Cheney was diagnosed with atrial fibrillation and underwent treatment that afternoon.[124]
On July 12, 2008, Cheney underwent a cardiological exam; doctors reported that his heartbeat was normal for a 67-year-old man with a history of heart problems. As part of his annual checkup, he was administered an electrocardiogram and radiological imaging of the stents placed in the arteries behind his knees in 2005. Doctors said that Cheney had not experienced any recurrence of atrial fibrillation and that his special pacemaker had neither detected nor treated any arrhythmia.[127]
On October 15, 2008, Cheney returned to the hospital briefly to treat a minor irregularity.[128]
On January 19, 2009, Cheney strained his back "while moving boxes into his new house". As a consequence, he was in a wheelchair for two days, including his attendance at the 2009 United States presidential inauguration.[129]
On February 22, 2010, Cheney was admitted to George Washington University Hospital after experiencing chest pains. A spokesperson later said Cheney had experienced a mild heart attack after doctors had run tests.[123]
On June 25, 2010, Cheney was admitted to George Washington University Hospital after reporting discomfort