Severe Depression

[uchiha]

Can you feel it?
I can.

I look and ponder at the knowledge i have, although thankful.
it is also a curse in a way. knowing what i know, knowing some of the very same things many of you know.

The way our society is structured
the history of old which has paved the way to the turmoil we now face

I believe we(I) will be fighting a war soon.. a war simply for freedom of these elitist prosecutors who see us as sheep to be horded and dealt with as they please.

i find myself depressed at all the Ignorant.. Dumb...Unaware people. I pity them. and only feel sad as to what the future holds baring all of these "Truths" come to pass

[albie]

I think you just decided to see the world as pointless and it didn't agree with you.

Most happy people believe the world matters.

If you see it as Illusion...what is left? Love?

No, darkness.

Learn to love the darkness.

And other such hippy crap designed to confuse you and make me look all mysterious and in the know.

I will now disappear in a puff of smoke.

[strider]

I believe we(I) will be fighting a war soon.. a war simply for freedom of these elitist prosecutors who see us as sheep to be horded and dealt with as they please.


I believe we are already, even though it is going to take a massive step up in the next few years..

Don't get too down about the info and lack of people surrounding you that are in the dark. It does get depressing at times, well it has done for me in the past, but you've got to push on through that..

[albie]

The war is on all scales. Each thought is a bullet.

On a grander scale...each missile...is...erm...a thought.

PAKUSHHHHHH!

(Where's he gone?)

[joy division]

Not sure about others but i was depressed for years, since school years i suppose looking back on it and do get down every so often now.

But... I have some times found that when being in this state of mind "can" be very inspiring and the mind can think of some wonderful thories and views allthough you might feel very down.

as you can prob tell im not good at describing things but i hope u can understand what im trying to say

[Anders Lindman]

Depression is a conflict between the mind and the body. For example, thoughts like: "I will grow older and then I will die", or "I must save money because when I grow older I will be weak, my teeth will get worse, my body stiff and sick, and then I cannot work and earn money", or "I must slave like an animal to make money, and save money so I can have a safe and secure future", or "the future will kill me, I will become weaker and old and wither away and die; add to that that my death scares me, I feel sorrow when I think about how my own gravestone will look like, what kind of stone will it be made of? What will the inscription on it be?"

And on and on and on. Who wouldn't become depressed with such thoughts?

[rossus]

i find myself depressed at all the Ignorant.. Dumb...Unaware people. I pity them.
i think you are depressed because you are ignorant yourself.
you are ignorant of your Self.

your Self, who you really are, is love.
so when you are ignorant of your Self,
you will never find deep happiness.

not in a "great girlfriend", not in a joint or needle,
not in a career and not even in the knowledge of what is really going on in the world.
happiness is only in the acceptance of life.
when love loves love.

you are depressed, simply because you are becoming aware.
many people don't become depressed, because they are scared to become aware of how they feel.

if they would become aware, they would realize just like you... that inside happiness is missing.
so often people prefer to believe they are happy, rather than becoming aware that they are not.

so now you are becoming aware of your level of unhappiness,
i suggest you become aware of what makes you unhappy.

"Desire is a trap, Desirelessness is liberation" - Buddha

"Instead of wanting what you don't have, and not wanting what you have... want what you have, and don't want what you don't have" - Nisargadatta

"The Kingdom (of Heaven) is inside you and it is outside you" - Jesus

Tao can be talked about, but not the Eternal Tao.
Names can be named, but not the Eternal Name.
As the origin of heaven-and-earth, it is nameless:
As "the Mother" of all things, it is nameable.
So, as ever hidden, we should look at its inner aspects.
As always manifest, we should look at its outer aspects.
These two flow from the same source,
though differently named;
And both are called mysteries.
The Mystery of mysteries is the Door of all essence.

[tejas]

i think you are depressed because you are ignorant yourself.
you are ignorant of your Self.

your Self, who you really are, is love.
so when you are ignorant of your Self,
you will never find deep happiness.

not in a "great girlfriend", not in a joint or needle,
not in a career and not even in the knowledge of what is really going on in the world.
happiness is only in the acceptance of life.
when love loves love.

you are depressed, simply because you are becoming aware.
many people don't become depressed, because they are scared to become aware of how they feel.

if they would become aware, they would realize just like you... that inside happiness is missing.
so often people prefer to believe they are happy, rather than becoming aware that they are not.

so now you are becoming aware of your level of unhappiness,
i suggest you become aware of what makes you unhappy.

"Desire is a trap, Desirelessness is liberation" - Buddha

"Instead of wanting what you don't have, and not wanting what you have... want what you have, and don't want what you don't have" - Nisargadatta

"The Kingdom (of Heaven) is inside you and it is outside you" - Jesus

Very nice, but how can one know that one really knows the self? I was so sure once, but It was an illusion.

Meditate for years on end they say, then maybe.

[truthseeker1980]

I know how you feel, i have bouts of that too. What always gets me through it though is to keep telling myself that infinite love is the only truth everything else is illusion.

If i am depressed whilst trying to sleep, i vision my body in the orange midst of the matrix, i tell myself that its all illusion and there is a place where i am at peace and i vision floating up above the orange cloudiness of the matrix.

What also helps is telling myself that I am only feeling depressed because it's the fuel of the matrix, without anxiety/depresssion/anger/hatred the matrix vale would lift. So since i know what i know and so do you, just tell yourself that it's not you feeling depressed it's a thought that's been put in your mind to make you create more fuel for the matrix.

Recently i have been thinking that maybe they are targetting us, the people who have more knowledge than the masses, as whenever i get less unhappy as Daivd puts it, something usually involving me having to spend money i dont have happens, or a really close girlfriend goes off me overnight and ignores me for the rest of the year, which then creates more depression for me.

These supposed mobile masts may have alot to answer for, with maybe controlling people, not necessarily all of us but maybe people around us which can have a knock on affect with creating more depression (fuel) for us from creating certain situations.

Just tell yourself they are not your thoughts, we can get through this and judging by the pace at which the awakening has picked up just over the last 12 months things will start to happen quickly.

There are already chain emails going round UK offices with plans on trying to get everyone to boycott 2 petrol companies BP and ESSO, as if everybody stopped buying petrol at those companies, they would have to lower prices and taxes, due to government interests in these co's and the economic problems that could cause.

The fact that people (unawakened people) are now thinking up plans like this to cripple big conglomerates is encouraging, for when there are far more of us, enough to make a difference. As at the moment there may not be enough people to follow these plans and make a difference, give it another year though and who knows, just try and not create too much fuel for them to harness.

I also think there will be a war, to be honest a lot of people do. Even most the brainwashed masses seem to think we will be called up to fight within the next 5-6years. I've had numerous dreams recently involving war and water.

[Anders Lindman]

many people don't become depressed, because they are scared to become aware of how they feel.

Good point. The sensing and the feelings within the body shut down as a defense against the horrible onslaught of nasty conscious and subconscious thought patterns.

"The eye is the lamp of the body. If your eyes are good, your whole body will be full of light. But if your eyes are bad, your whole body will be full of darkness. If then the light within you is darkness, how great is that darkness!" -- Matthew 6 (New International Version)

[Anders Lindman]

There are already chain emails going round UK offices with plans on trying to get everyone to boycott 2 petrol companies BP and ESSO, as if everybody stopped buying petrol at those companies, they would have to lower prices and taxes, due to government interests in these co's and the economic problems that could cause.


Someone said that when they refine oil, they get a lot of toxic waste products, and all of that goes into.........the petrol/gasoline. The Rockefellers used to dump the toxic waste into the river before they learned that it could be used as fuel for cars, and then they managed to manipulate America to make ethanol illegal. The T-Ford I think it was was made to run on both gasoline and ethanol, but as time went by, gasoline would come to totally replace ethanol as fuel for cars.

That was a clever trick; to make people to want the toxic waste because it could be used as fuel for their cars. There are strict regulations for how to use toxic materials, but gasoline/petrol can still be sold to the public! Nasty stuff.

[uchiha]

i appreciate all the posts

Im not a depressed being of myself or my own life

I am depressed at the way the world is shaping and forming

to the buddha guy

ALmost as if i am one with the earth and i bleed with it inside kinda deal

put aside the infinite love crap for a minute and step into this reality or dimensia we currently reside

do i have to run it down ?
intentional poisons through food/vaccines
History re-written
religion (re-written)
illumaniti
Future (2012/NAU/World order) ETC ETC ETC
BLAH BLAH BLAH
ALL OF the body of works of neverending SHIT we know and learn everyday

The enlightened people of this community.

Arent you SAD about this?
Dont you say to yourself..... who ARE these people that care so little of other humans.. who have raped this planet and humanity of decency and respect for their fellow MAN

These people have to be stopped one day or one way or another
And it wont be by mentally LOVING them to death

it will be through conflict. it is unavoidable

[Anders Lindman]

it will be through conflict. it is unavoidable

We have that conflict within us. Humanity has struggled through generations. We carry the struggle of our parents, and their parents and their parents. That is a heavy burden. But at the same time we have been given the power of our parents, and their parents and their parents. Now is the time to start using that power. For constructive destruction. To destroy old ideas, not people. To usher in the new century with great responsibility and determination.

[28th kingdom]

Stop doing drugs... and let yer brain chemstry get balanced... that should help some.

[truthseeker1980]

Hi uchiha,

But to feel sad and create more fuel for them to pray on the unawakened is playing right into their hands.

I do feel sad about the masses of people including my parents who rubbish any kind of truth and dont want to know about the illuinati and NWO plans, but from what i have seen over the last 3-4 years more and more people are accepting that not all is what they have thought it was over their lives and noticing things, in other words slowly waking up.

The collective subconcious will get us through it, dont waste energy feeling sad, be positive and optomistic.

Create good energy not bad energy.

Oherwise like i said at the start the illuminati/NWO/chitahuru or whoever is harnessing our energy and keeping us in the matrix will win, as you are still creating the fuel for them, so it's not infinite love crap, it's infinite love or peace whatever way you look at it, that needs to be felt or experienced rather than creating more fuel for the matrix.

[lizzy]

i appreciate all the posts

Im not a depressed being of myself or my own life

I am depressed at the way the world is shaping and forming

to the buddha guy

ALmost as if i am one with the earth and i bleed with it inside kinda deal

put aside the infinite love crap for a minute and step into this reality or dimensia we currently reside

do i have to run it down ?
intentional poisons through food/vaccines
History re-written
religion (re-written)
illumaniti
Future (2012/NAU/World order) ETC ETC ETC
BLAH BLAH BLAH
ALL OF the body of works of neverending SHIT we know and learn everyday

The enlightened people of this community.

Arent you SAD about this?
Dont you say to yourself..... who ARE these people that care so little of other humans.. who have raped this planet and humanity of decency and respect for their fellow MAN

These people have to be stopped one day or one way or another
And it wont be by mentally LOVING them to death

it will be through conflict. it is unavoidable

Yes, I am.......I really am.
Infinate love is great but the evil ways heavy on me. Almost as if their mass is so much greater than ours.
I can only talk for myself but everyday some more evil unfolds and I for one find this knowledge very hard to carry.

[rossus]

Arent you SAD about this?
imagine you have cancer, you will die in 3 years.

you can be like "o my god this is so bad",
or you can be like "ok, if this is how it is... then this is how it is"

this doesn't mean you cannot try to cure the cancer,
it doesn't mean you cannot fight for a better world.

but if you lose or if it looks like you're losing,
you just accept it for what it is.
there's no difference between accepting and loving.

if someone would for example rape little kids.
maybe i would kill that person, but i would still love him.

because i do not see that person as bad.
it's just someone who is sick, someone who is better of dead, for himself and for others.

"love everything and everyone"
if you try it you will see it's not infinite bullshit...

love is the cure :)
Yes, I am.......I really am.
Infinate love is great but the evil ways heavy on me. Almost as if their mass is so much greater than ours.
I can only talk for myself but everyday some more evil unfolds and I for one find this knowledge very hard to carry.
“When all the world recognizes beauty as beauty, this in itself is ugliness. When all the world recognizes good as good, this in itself is evil.”
- Tao Teh Ching

If you believe the thought "everything is wrong, evil rules the planet..." then you feel bad. This is the power of thought (the power of evil).
If you love life, as it is... then you feel happy and at peace. No matter the health of your body, no matter the health of this planet.

Feeling bad because the planet is being destroyed is a symptom of materialism.
Let go of the desire for a healthy planet, the desire for a good future for the kids, etc.
This desire comes from fear.

Inside you, love knows it doesn't matter if this planet gets destroyed.
What is one planet compared to a whole universe?

Love knows that the suffering is not real.
There's billions of people suffering, but it's not real.
It exists only in the imagination of the mind.

It exist only because the brain has chemicals in it that are receptive to pain impulse of nerves.
It's only a chemical connection that creates an illusion. It is not a reality.

The illusion can only be real as long as you believe it is real :)

[Anders Lindman]

if someone would for example rape little kids.
maybe i would kill that person, but i would still love him.

because i do not see that person as bad.
it's just someone who is sick, someone who is better of dead, for himself and for others.


I don't agree. Destroy ideas, not people. Someone raping children has some seriously fucked up ideas, so it will likely be extremely difficult to constructively destroy these ideas. But killing the person is just a simple solution that is not really a solution. One has to destroy the problem at the root. It is the ideas that are the root problem. As long as these ideas still remain on a primitive level, people who rape children will pop up again and again even if they all are killed, because the roots, the ideas/memes, still exist in society and will sooner or later begin to spawn child rapists again.

[rossus]

destroying ideas... that is a weird expression i have not heard often.
so how exactly would you go about destroying these ideas that are responsible for people raping children?



i think that child rapists are almost unavoidable.
you can teach people to learn to love themselves & eachother... change the world into a place that is more likely to grow beautiful fruits and vegetables than poisonous weeds. but soon or later, weeds will pop up again.

the person who has already turned into a child rapist, maybe he is cureable... but i suspect many people are uncurable and rotten to the core.
what do you do with them if you don't kill them? lobotomy?
lock them up so they can make life miserable to themselves, the guards and the other inmates until they finally drop dead?

a person who is full of cancer, you cannot cure him.
a person who has cancer, you can possibly cure him but once disappeared the cancer could return. (it's worth trying)

[Anders Lindman]

destroying ideas... that is a weird expression i have not heard often.
so how exactly would you go about destroying these ideas that are responsible for people raping children?

a person who is full of cancer, you cannot cure him.
a person who has cancer, you can possibly cure him but once disappeared the cancer could return. (it's worth trying)

A person raping children should be put into prison. That's the first and easy step. The next step is to attack the ideas in society that act as a cancer seed creating such behavior. That's something very difficult. Even the world's all experts and professors have not yet figured out how to fix this problem. A problem like this has to be understood thoroughly. It's maybe not an easy task, but the root cause(s) of the problem has to be destroyed.

The same with physical diseases like cancer. What is the real cause of cancer? What is a real cure? If the cancer grows back then it was not cured, only temporary taken out.

[alrick888]

you are depressed, simply because you are becoming aware.
many people don't become depressed, because they are scared to become aware of how they feel.

if they would become aware, they would realize just like you... that inside happiness is missing.
so often people prefer to believe they are happy, rather than becoming aware that they are not.

so now you are becoming aware of your level of unhappiness,

This quote from rossus bears repeating. Very true for a lot of us, I guess.