The 'Shadow Man' Caught on Video

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Video Description: First known video of a Shad­ow Man, from the res­i­dence of our wit­ness.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=102756452

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[biblegirl]

Video Description: First known video of a Shad­ow Man, from the res­i­dence of our wit­ness.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=102756452&release=103411866

the link just took me to myspace vids but i didn't see one on shadowman :confused:

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Not sure what's up with that.

Screw it - mods please delete this thread.

Thanks.

[1964]

Video Description: First known video of a Shad­ow Man, from the res­i­dence of our wit­ness.



http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=102756452

I think maybe you used the wrong tag. Hmmm, and the wrong url?

[biblegirl]

dang, sounded like it was going to be good :D

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dang, sounded like it was going to be good :D



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I listen to Coast to Coat AM via Streamlink even though I live in Germany now. They were talking about Shadown People and they apparently dress like 1950 ad men. I found the sketch above somewhere online. What's with the fedoras? (Via Wikipedia)

Shadow people (also known as shadow men, shadow folk, or shadow beings) are said to be shadow like creatures of supernatural origin that appear as dark forms in the peripheries of people's vision and disintegrate, or move between walls, when noticed.

Reports of shadow people are similar to ghost sightings, but differ in that shadow people are not reported as having human features, wearing modern/period clothing, or attempting to communicate. Witnesses also do not report the same feelings of being in the presence of something that 'was once human'. Some individuals have described being menaced, chased, or attacked by shadow people. There have also been reports of shadow people appearing in front of witnesses or lingering for several seconds before disappearing. Witnesses report that encounters are typically accompanied by a feeling of dread.

http://i40.tinypic.com/1pfog1.jpg
Two commonly-reported types of shadow people

Accounts of shadow people typically describe them as being black humanoid silhouettes with no discernible mouths, noses, or facial expressions, though accounts also exist of them being child-sized humanoids or shapeless masses that sometimes change to a more human like form. The eyes are usually not described as being discernible but in some reports glowing eyes are mentioned. The color of the eyes is red. Generally, they are described as lacking mass, though their specific nature varies from a two-dimensional shadow to a vaporous or distorted three-dimensional form. Their movement is often described as being very quick and disjointed; they may first move slowly, as if they were passing through a heavy liquid, and then rapidly "hop" to another part of a witness's surroundings. Some witnesses describe this movement as though the shadow entities they have seen "danced" from one wall to the next, or as moving around the room "as if they were on a specific track". Often they are described as being seen staring at the floor. Some accounts describe what appears to be the outline of a cloak, and in some instances the outline of a 1930s style fedora hat. This last type is referred to by many alleged witnesses on the Internet as the "hat-man" due to its prevalence among Shadow people sightings.

Various depictions and artists rendering have been posted on the Internet.

Hypotheses

Several explanations have been proposed to explain the phenomena of shadow people.

Paranormal

Explanations for shadow people have been drawn from the fields of parapsychology, metaphysics, cryptozoology, demonology, religion, and the occult:

* A creature/s in an alternate reality whose dimension occasionally overlaps with ours, allowing it to be partially visible.
* A Manifest Thoughtform (egregore), ghost or demon created through various means, including negative psychic energy, black magic and other occult practices, or an event in which extreme emotional or physical stress/trauma has taken place.
* A creature in some way linked to Grey and Reptilian aliens
* An unattended shadow or shade (mythology), said in some cultures, to be similar to that of a ghost, a flicker of a life unable to end for some reason.

Scientific

Several non-paranormal hypothesis for the phenomena of shadow people exist, including optical illusions or hallucinations brought on by the physiological/psychological circumstances of the witnesses.

Pareidolia

In most instances, witnesses report seeing shadow people in the peripheral areas of their vision. This area of vision is linked to the areas of the brain that recognizes patterns, however it provides less detail to the brain than macular (center-forward) vision. This can lead to a condition known as pareidolia, in which the brain incorrectly interprets random patterns of light/shadow or texture as being familiar patterns such as faces and human forms. The same condition can also be observed in macular vision in low light conditions, or when viewing a complex but random image. A common example would be perceiving a shadow, thrown by an item of furniture in a darkened room, as being a person.

Hypnogogia

Also known as waking-sleep, hypnogogia is a documented physiological condition in which a person is part-way between sleeping and waking. During hypnogogia, a person can be conscious and aware of their environment, but also in a dream-like state where they can perceive images from their subconscious. People experiencing waking-sleep commonly report the sensation of lights or shadows moving around them, as well as other visual hallucinations. A feeling of dread is also a sensation that occurs when experiencing hypnogogia. Hypnogogia is sometimes known as 'the faces in the dark phenomenon' because those who experience this state commonly report seeing faces while experiencing waking-sleep. Similar hypothesis have been put forward linking this condition to a number of other apparent paranormal experiences, including alien abductions and paranormal nocturnal visitations.

Chemical agents

The use of narcotics and psychotropic agents, including methamphetamine and LSD, can produce shadow person-like hallucinations. Dopaminergic drugs such as pramipexole can sometimes cause these hallucinations. Common over-the-counter medication can also have a similar effect if taken in sufficient quantity (see diphenhydramine and pseudoephedrine).

Electromagnetic fields

Under the right conditions, electromagnetic fields can interfere with the functions of the temporal lobe; creating altered states of perception in which auditory and visual hallucinations can occur.

Using electromagnetic fields, researches have been able to recreate many of the experiences reported during paranormal encounters under laboratory conditions, including those of shadow people. Researchers have also documented correlations between variances in naturally-occurring magnetic fields and areas where paranormal events have been reported.

Neurological conditions

Certain neurological conditions, such as photosensitive complex partial seizures, have also been shown to cause sufferers to see shadow people.

http://memes.org/what-are-shadow-people-and-why-fedora

By the pond:

http://i44.tinypic.com/nzhbbc.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/117en1u.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/8wkuuv.jpg

First link:

http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&source=hp&q=jc+johnson+shadow+man&meta=&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=fa2bf642f8b4518a

[turquoisefire777]

Not sure what's up with that.

Screw it - mods please delete this thread.

Thanks.

getting scared are you?;)

sissy.

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getting scared are you?;)

sissy.

He runs off like the superhero "The Flash" in the last frame there. :eek:

[haukipesukone]

the link just took me to myspace vids but i didn't see one on shadowman :confused:

This link on the bottom of the OP works: http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fu...eoid=102756452

It did for me.

Never heard about this shadow man thing before.

[turquoisefire777]

He runs off like the superhero "The Flash" in the last frame there. :eek:

lol yeah, they seem to have that ability. after all, they are as light as a shadow....

[haukipesukone]

Reading the explanation about shadow people in SoL's post #6 immediately made me think of the Keremet. They're race of non-corporeal beings in the roleplaying game Changeling: The Dreaming.

The keremet are mortals brought into the Dreaming at the moment of their death. No longer mortal, and not quite wraith, the keremet go about their enigmatic purposes with emotionless detachment. They frequently travel to the Shadowlands, and are able to see and communicate with the spirits of the deceased. They did not take part in the Tessarakonta, and may walk the Silver Paths. They feel no pain or pleasure, need not eat or breathe and are immune to disease. There is a special oath, the Pact of Dagda, which can cause the keremet to lose some of their powers if it is broken. The keremet are emotionally dead creatures, and cannot really muse Glamour from mortals, and have additional problems relating to anyone socially. The keremet look fully alive only in their Dioniae Aria, looking quite unhealthy in Araminae and corpselike in Apolliae Arias.
http://wiki.white-wolf.com/worldofdarkness/index.php?title=Adhene_(Changeling:_The_Dreaming)# Keremet_.28KARE-e-met.29

Like most things in White Wolf's World of Darkness the keremet are loosely based on actual myth, so I decided to investigate more what the keremet are.

First I discovered this: "Among the Cheremis and Mordvins (Finno-Ugric), keremet are fenced-in sanctuaries or sacred groves, the living places of heroes and ghosts."
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/k/keremet.html

I was surprised, I had thought the word keremet is Indian or something. I didn't know it was Finnish-related. I also found this: Šert Terkan "Among the Cheremis/Mari people, the name of an individual keremet or evil spirit."
http://www.pantheon.org/articles/s/sert_terkan.html

I looked further into the Mari people. This is all Wikipedia says about them.
The Mari faith also possesses a pantheon of gods who reside in the heavens, the most important of whom is known as the Great White God (Ош Кугу Юмо, Osh Kugu Yumo). Other lesser gods include the god of fire (Тул Юмо, Tul Yumo) and the god of wind (Мардеж Юмо, Mardezh Yumo). The Mari also believe in a number of half-men, half-gods (керемет, keremet) who live on earth. The most revered of these gods is Chumbulat (Чумбулат)Kubrat or Chumbylat (Чумбылат), a renowned leader and warrior[3].

Kuzma Alekseyev, possibly his surname is Pilyandin, also known as Kuzya-the-God was a leader of Teryukhan unrest in 1806-1810, proclaimed himself a prophet.

Kuzya-the-God lived in Teryukhan Mordvin village of Makrasha. Combining the Mordvin traditional beliefs with Christianity and conjuring tricks he managed to instill into his deity. He arranged secret devotions in keremet (place of prayers) near Maloye Seskino village. This resulted in Teryukhans' growing cool towards Russian Orthodox Church. A troop was sent to arrest Kuzya-the-God. A court sentenced him to corporal punishment, marking and exile. In September 1810 he was birched in Dalneye Konstantinovo village , Teryushevskaya Volost. The same year he was exiled to Irkutsk Governorate, however there he continued his sectarianism activity.

Mari people - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
Kuzma Alekseyev - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia


The Finnish language article on the Mari mentioned that Stalin had all of the intellectuals of the Mari killed in 1937. They knew too much esoteric tribal stuff?

This is all very off topic, or is it?

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The Finnish language article on the Mari mentioned that Stalin had all of the intellectuals of the Mari killed in 1937. They knew too much esoteric tribal stuff?

This is all very off topic, or is it?

No, excellent stuff.

Stalin seemed to be well in tune with the paranormal and in trying to harness it to cement his power.

[coco]

I saw them or rather 'him' (a single one) quite a bit when I was 13. He was not wearing a hat or cloak. Just a shadow of a man.

At first he was in the far peripheral vision, I would look and he would not be there. In time he started to come into my vision much better, I would need only move my eyes to see him. As more time passed I could look at him straight on. He just walked. He didn't stop, he didn't do anything but walk from A to B, which was nowhere. I never actually saw him vanish as he would walk up and down the hallway.

Shortly after I was able to look at him straight on, I received word my paternal grandfather died. I never knew him and only seen one photo of him in my life so it's an odd coincidence.

In the past as a child, I would occasionally see one walk about the boarding house that was next door and I saw one walking just out the corner of my eye last year right before I learned my dog had cancer and I had to make the decision whether to proceed with a surgery or put him down. I went with surgery and my dog did well and is recovered. After the successful surgery, I no longer saw the walking man.

It would seem he is the messenger of death for me although his last 'message' did not prove itself as my dog survived.

I have heard of shadow men with hats and cloaks and some with red eyes, but that has never been my experience. He is always just a shadow without hat or cloak or any distinguishing features and commits no mischief but only walks.

[themime]

As I've said before on here when I've seen these things it was half in the real world, half in the mind so I'm not sure if you can video them or not but I do find this subject very interesting.

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Coincidentally, a guest on the Jeff Rense show right now is talking about her family's experiences when their house was inundated by shadow people.

http://www.renseradio.com/listenlive.htm

Scroll down and choose your preferred media player from the '16K Free Live Feed' panel on the right and it will kick in.

[destinysmoon1964]

By the pond:

http://i44.tinypic.com/nzhbbc.jpg

http://i42.tinypic.com/117en1u.jpg

http://i41.tinypic.com/8wkuuv.jpg

First link:

http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&source=hp&q=jc+johnson+shadow+man&meta=&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=fa2bf642f8b4518a

Thats a video that my friend JC Johnson filmed at a farm in New Mexico

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Thats a video that my friend JC Johnson filmed at a farm in New Mexico

JC has one on Skinwalkers that sounds very interesting.

'Navajo Skin Walkers & Legends' :

I set out years ago in search of Sasquatch,,, Or I should say, years
ago and presently, Sasquatch keeps searching out me.
Our primary interest when we set out , was hairy hominid related. The
Reservation we research on, is a deep and dark place, full of mystery
and witchery. We soon found that there was more than Sasquatch, much
more.

We realized, that if we were going to understand one thing, we need
be acquainted with everything. What ever we found, would be exposed
for what it is, and or was. Some of the Bigfoot reports we went to
investigate, turned out to be something else. This led us into a new
area of investigation, and the more we uncovered, the more we became
familiar with the fact we were dealing with evil.

This is not to say, that some of the Dogman reports I have been privy
to, could not point to a yet undiscovered creature. I'm still holding
out on that, and have some stunning eye witness accounts of peaceable
encounters where the Dogman acts more accordingly as an animal, and
or predator in a natural environment, not seeking human attention or
being some type of terror toward human kind.

The Skin Walker, for whom he is, and what he does, transforms him/her
self into and emulation or imitation of and animal. Some wear hides,
some transform, some travel in spirit form. Every intention I've
witnessed, is that they bring evil and misery, and do not benefit the
Dine' Navajo and continue to keep them prisoners of darkness and
superstition.

To Become One of them:

1. Sacrifice a loved one, or sibling, child- someone close to you.
2. Bring in the body to the group, that they may practice some
necrophilia, and then feast on some of the body parts. Later they
will take some of the organs, and make powders and potions.
3. You now begin your apprenticeship with a practicing leader.
4. Your family, and children are no longer yours. They become part or
eventually die.


I'll stop here. The list goes on and on. If you ever come and visit
Navajo Country, do so in the daylight, and never stray far from major
roads and attractions. Be on the mind and careful if a Navajo invites
you to his home for dinner, you might be the main course.

Half of our crew is Dine' Navajo. They share the same sentiments as
myself, no culture should condone and or cover up, Homicide,
Necrophilia, Cannibalism, Child Abuse,,, etc.

Our documentary, is the first part in a series to uncover and expose
this phenomena in truth and in light, and yet still show some of the
beauty and honorable legends of this land and people.

JC Johnson

http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=6787899&blogId=468608729

[turquoisefire777]

shadow people gets a mention in this article:

Carry the Pipe in Your Heart

9th April 2006



Great calamities are about to befall humankind.

The serpent beings have begun their chant.
The grey ones, the wiry-faced jumping ones, the slimy-skinned ones, the fair-faced jumpers, the big-faced fighters and others have responded to their commanders' chant.

The feathered beings likewise have squawked and spread their wings.
The raven beings, the masked beings, the tall clay ones, the tentacled beings and more are railing behind their feathered commanders.

The serpents and the feathered ones are about to wage a giant war against one another.

Humans shall watch and scream in terror.
Many will not know or suspect what is happening.
Some have become servants to the serpentine or the feathered beings.
Others will turn soon.

Nothing here will survive the Great Thunder.
Nothing in this world can survive the Great Flood.
Nothing on this planet can survive the Great Heat.
Only time will ease the pain of horror that the sun brings to the Earth.
Time is running thin.

When the tundra breaks off from the continent many lands will be left bare.
Before the summer is over, the heavens will sing, proclaiming the demise of horror.

Humans will be confused, frightened, angered and empty and many will fight one another as their hearts plunge into Darkness while others weep.
Only a small number will remember their Creator and follow their Creator's Voice to find hope, peace and calmness within.
The rest will be swallowed by the Shadows.

Those who hear the Creator's Voice will not succumb to the Shadows.
These are the ones who will climb the mountains to the Land of Peace, Love and Beauty.

The Call has begun.

White Buffalo Woman has returned to fulfil her role.
An outside mediator between the children and their Creator is not needed.
The only mediator is one's True Light connecting to one's Creator.

The Drumming has happened.
The Split Feather is joined.
The Call has gone out.
The Singing has commenced.
The Song is spreading around all corners of the Earth and beyond.

Taho-li-wa-la

The Call is done.

The Harvest has begun.
Joyous are the children of the Creator journeying towards the Light.
White Buffalo Woman has returned.

Evil will end Its reign and be no more.

Ya-tu-sa

Carry the Pipe in your heart.
The original Pipe was given as a gift of love.
The Pipe is not a trophy.
Do not be concerned which nation now holds the original Pipe.
It matters not which nation you come from or which nation claims to hold the Pipe.
What is important is that each of you hold the Pipe in your heart.
You can then smile with confidence knowing that you still carry the Pipe in your heart.

With Love and Blessings

Nara
White Buffalo Woman


© 2006 AHSAF
http://www.xeeatwelve.net/articles/carry_the_pipe.html

Xee-A Twelve Home Page

[mr stoppitall]

It was one of these shadowmen that brought my soul to this incarnation.

:)

[crystalline]

I have seen these shadow people twice, both times they were in the form of "the hooded figure". The first time I saw them was before I fell ill with a blockage in my bile duct, I subsequently was hospitalized for 3 and a half weeks, my gall bladder burst and I had emergency surgery, I was so ill in the hospital that I was convinced I was going to die.

The second visit from the shadow people was earlier this year while I was at work. At the time I was getting severe abdo pain and my GP had referred me to hospital for an ultrasound scan. I had a dream about someone dying with cancer and was convinced the shadow people were there forwarning of illness again. The ultrasound was normal, I continued to get severe abdo pain and couldn't understand it. Approx a month later my mother took ill with abdo pain, she was admitted to hospital and died 2 weeks later with stomach cancer. I hope I never see the shadow people again. For me they forwarn of trauma/death.

[dunadan]

I too have seen a shadow being/entitiy. It looked like someone all dressed in black then disappeared in front of my eyes, it didnt seem to notice me or anyone else - yet looked like a solid, real, human-being, first of all out of the corner of me eye then full on as I turned to look too.

I also have a friend who has experienced the same.

Are these sightings on the increase?

[coco]

I too have seen a shadow being/entitiy. It looked like someone all dressed in black then disappeared in front of my eyes, it didnt seem to notice me or anyone else - yet looked like a solid, real, human-being, first of all out of the corner of me eye then full on as I turned to look too.

I also have a friend who has experienced the same.

Are these sightings on the increase?

Dunno.

Or is that more people are willing to speak about it?

[coco]

I have seen these shadow people twice, both times they were in the form of "the hooded figure". The first time I saw them was before I fell ill with a blockage in my bile duct, I subsequently was hospitalized for 3 and a half weeks, my gall bladder burst and I had emergency surgery, I was so ill in the hospital that I was convinced I was going to die.

The second visit from the shadow people was earlier this year while I was at work. At the time I was getting severe abdo pain and my GP had referred me to hospital for an ultrasound scan. I had a dream about someone dying with cancer and was convinced the shadow people were there forwarning of illness again. The ultrasound was normal, I continued to get severe abdo pain and couldn't understand it. Approx a month later my mother took ill with abdo pain, she was admitted to hospital and died 2 weeks later with stomach cancer. I hope I never see the shadow people again. For me they forwarn of trauma/death.

Likewise dear. You are not alone. My condolences.

[destinysmoon1964]

JC has one on Skinwalkers that sounds very interesting.

'Navajo Skin Walkers & Legends' :



http://blogs.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=blog.view&friendId=6787899&blogId=468608729

Yes its a pretty interesting video. I have seen it. There are alot of strange things going on in his four corners region.

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Yes its a pretty interesting video. I have seen it. There are alot of strange things going on in his four corners region.

We'd love to hear more about these things from you destiny. :)

[dunadan]

Dunno.

Or is that more people are willing to speak about it?

Could be that they are.

I havnt come accross these entities in historical accounts, except perhaps Vikingesque type mythical beings (shadow or night walkers?).

[crystalline]

Likewise dear. You are not alone. My condolences.

Thankyou coco.

Just wanted to add that although the second time I saw the shadow people I knew from the previous experience that something awful was going to happen, I still didn't feel afraid of them. It wasn't like some entity from hell or anything like that, and although they did, for me, forwarn of death/illness, in some strange way I have got comfort from this and other "supernatural" experiences in knowing that there is life beyond this world.
:)

[blackster]

I have heard some very strange stories about the shadow enitities from people in the paranormal research field, there is a female researcher and author called Heidi Hollis who seems to know quite a lot on this subject, i have read her book the secret war and found it very interesting :D

I sometimes see weird shit out of the corner of my eyes sometimes shadows moving etc but i put it down to my eyes playing tricks on me lol hehe that way i won't spook myself :D

[spitalwings]

Are these shadow things seen in 3D or more like a cardboard cut out, if that makes since?

[coco]

Are these shadow things seen in 3D or more like a cardboard cut out, if that makes since?

For me, 3-D. It is as if I observe you walking, but you are completely black without distinguishing features. I cannot see your eyes, the color of your shirt or trousers, you're all black as a shadow, solid.

[dunadan]

Are these shadow things seen in 3D or more like a cardboard cut out, if that makes since?

I have seen one in 3D 'he' looked solid - just like you or I! Then he disappeared in front of my eyes.

[crystalline]

my experiences were 3d like

[zach luebke]

Thats a video that my friend JC Johnson filmed at a farm in New Mexico

That's cool. I've seen something about just like that before. Not in New Mexico however.

[anxu]

I've seen a shadow on the other side of a park. It traveled from the other side to me (perhaps 100metres) in less than a second and it disappeared 1 meter away from me. This appeared to be 3Dimensional like a black smoke in the shape of a person and was not a shadow on the ground as such. I did not see eyes or any details.

[turquoisefire777]

now tell me this isn't one of the biggest "shadow man" stories you ever came across:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=114139

[billybleach]

I've had the unfortunate experience, 11 years ago, of this entity that touched my ankle whilst I was sleeping. It really freaked me out big time. I saw it standing at the end of my bed. My mum said it was not a good thing to experience. But would not tell me why, until this day. :(:confused:

When I woke, enough to see, I just really, really freaked and threw anything and everything I could grab to hand at it. When I thought it had gone I threw myself out of the bedroom door, hurdled the banisters, dropping 2 metres downstaris and grabbing a kitchen knife. My dad hearing me tip my room upside down at 3am came following me downstairs and found me in the kitchen wielding a knife. With the ''look of someone possesed'' he calmed me down and got me to drop the knife before approaching me.

I could never explain it and would never like to experience that again.

[ethan_allen]

Billy,
I have a couple of friends who have had that same exact experience. One I remember was a friend of mine had a girlfriend he was living with, and they both told me that one night she awoke, feeling something touching her leg. She said it was cold to the touch, and thought it was my friend rubbing his leg against hers while they slept. It happened again, so she opened her eyes and looked up to see a dark shadowy figure sitting in a seat that was next to the bed; the shadow person's arm was outstretched and was 'feeling' her leg. She of course screamed and when she did, it vanished.

This seems to be a recurring theme with the shadow people. More so than ghosts or random bumps in the night, these things seem to want to interact with people in different ways. I don't know what my own take is on these things, or what they represent, but it's pretty damn creepy.

[pound]

These entities seem to be 'dark' beings manifesting in our dimension much like demons, but obviously different, in regards to appearance. The particular shadow person with the fedora is quite interesting, even more interesting is the fact that many people from all over the globe have attested to seeing the same entity with the exact same hat. Which leaves me wondering, are we dealing with a team of ghouls here or just a couple of entitys that resemble one another?...........Bizarre.

Coast 2 Coast recently had a show with Bill Bean. Bill Bean had apparently lived in a house when he was younger that was infested with shadow people and 'demons'. These creatures would follow his family where ever they went. But for some reason this house was the culmination of all of this paranormal activity. Perhaps a vortex of some sort.
Bean snapped this photo of one of these hooded entities...Scary stuff:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/cimages/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/coast-to-coast/repository/photos/bill-bean-photo-iii/200652-1-eng-US/Bill-Bean-Photo-III_photo_medium.jpg

The interview is quite interesting:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[zach luebke]

These entities seem to be 'dark' beings manifesting in our dimension much like demons, but obviously different, in regards to appearance. The particular shadow person with the fedora is quite interesting, even more interesting is the fact that many people from all over the globe have attested to seeing the same entity with the exact same hat. Which leaves me wondering, are we dealing with a team of ghouls here or just a couple of entitys that resemble one another?...........Bizarre.

Coast 2 Coast recently had a show with Bill Bean. Bill Bean had apparently lived in a house when he was younger that was infested with shadow people and 'demons'. These creatures would follow his family where ever they went. But for some reason this house was the culmination of all of this paranormal activity. Perhaps a vortex of some sort.
Bean snapped this photo of one of these hooded entities...Scary stuff:

http://www.coasttocoastam.com/cimages/var/ezwebin_site/storage/images/coast-to-coast/repository/photos/bill-bean-photo-iii/200652-1-eng-US/Bill-Bean-Photo-III_photo_medium.jpg

The interview is quite interesting:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=WveRK8NEb7M

Bullshit- Nothing like the ones in shadows ever looked like that. At least not the real thing anyways.

Just like in the Gable Film- No real dogman ever looked like that. Lol

No one reading or watching this internet crap would know, until they see. Disproving some things can be tasking otherwise... Though false to begin with.

And what I've seen and all I know, Isn't for me to ever show.
You may be smart, you may be quick. But Everyone can be tricked.
An honest man can not be heard when a Lair misguides his word.
In a belief there is showing, In the truth there is only knowing.

[dunadan]

Our home is riddled with Leys (or Leylines) as well as Geopathic Stress lines which I have had to work on/work with so as to neutralise etc. I have also had to use various devices so as to make the space, our home habitable. It it quite well known that designated 'green - Leys' are well travelled by 'ghosts' (sic) and other similar entitites as are the Geopathic Stress lines. In short I still have to move on spirits from time to time (not my preferred occupation - yet something I seem to be born to do from time to time).

I have offered to help others locally who's homes have these lines going through them - those that I have felt able to approach just smile and decline believing that I am some well meaning witch doctor!:D

Yet there is a house opposite occupied (with a chap living on his own) has had repoted deamons there, the latest occupant has reported tangible 'demonic' beings in and out of his home - I saw one 'shadowman'/entitiy directly outside of his house. Others in the street, suffer from depression, there have been suicides, many, many devorces/arguements etc. I have done my best, with others, to heal the area, yet there is also an element of not interfering too as we all came here for a reason(s) that is what our higher-selves wanted to do.:eek:

Until recently I didnt know that there were such things as shadow entities, yet I now find that others have seen them too.....

[standuptothisshit]

I have a few other questions about seeing them, actually.

1. Did you guys experience them as a full size human, larger, smaller etc?
2. Do you think they are really an omen of death, or perhaps that their appearance brings with it such a powerful burst of negative energy that it can cause such things to manifest in one's life?
3. What kind of feelings accompany the experience? I mean I'm guessing most people freaked, but did anyone experience a calm encounter?
4. Do you think they are more attracted to certain types of people, or is it more likely to be the energy pattern of the area, for example ley lines like dunadan mentioned (screw living on a ley line...).
5. Anyone found a way of being rid of the shadow people or protecting oneself from their appearance, or is it generally accepted that if they're around there's not much that can be done?

Don't want to seem insensitive to things like death but I'm very intrigued by all of this. And probably unlikely to sleep tonight either :rolleyes:

[crystalline]

I have a few other questions about seeing them, actually.

I have tried to answer your questions in relation to my own personal experiences, I am intrigued to see how others experienced these.

1. Did you guys experience them as a full size human, larger, smaller etc?
They were slightly smaller than full size human
2. Do you think they are really an omen of death, or perhaps that their appearance brings with it such a powerful burst of negative energy that it can cause such things to manifest in one's life?
The two instances I have seen them they were omens of death/illness. Whether the burst of negativity caused death I can't say for sure, but in the case of the death of my mother I also had dreams about cancer during this time too, I can't say whether these shadow people caused my dreams?
3. What kind of feelings accompany the experience? I mean I'm guessing most people freaked, but did anyone experience a calm encounter?
I didn't freak, and I didn't feel afraid, there was no hysteria so I suppose it was a calm experience, but I knew it was negative.
4. Do you think they are more attracted to certain types of people, or is it more likely to be the energy pattern of the area, for example ley lines like dunadan mentioned (screw living on a ley line...).
I saw shadow people on two different occasions both in the same location
5. Anyone found a way of being rid of the shadow people or protecting oneself from their appearance, or is it generally accepted that if they're around there's not much that can be done?
No and Yes
Don't want to seem insensitive to things like death but I'm very intrigued by all of this. And probably unlikely to sleep tonight either :rolleyes:

Don't let worry affect you and prevent you from sleeping. If these beings appear then it is beyond your control so there is no point in worrying about whether it could happen or not.

[standuptothisshit]

Thanks very much for your insight, crystalline. :)

[guuna]

there was a great Twilight Zone Episode about shadow men back in the mid 80's

[2013]

Are these shadow things seen in 3D or more like a cardboard cut out, if that makes since?

Cant find a previous posts i made a couple of years back on here about my experiences .Something you mentioned about a 2 d cut out struck me i cant recal if i wrote about that 1st time round.When i first saw a shadow man it was marching ahead of an orange lodge band thru my neighbourhood . This was an unusual occurence so i ran to see where the music was coming from . the figure at the head of the march was dressed in historical costume of the time of william of orange a protestant king , the rest of the marches wore orange sashes and suits . The band was playing and the lead figure twirling a baton appeared to be dressed in black and at first it seemd a 2d cut out in my mind now ? but the figure moved and i could see it was 3d and then turned to look at me and it had no face or features but seemed to be made of an oil like substance as it smiled at me without a face but i could feel it grinning .I ran as fast as i could home . I saw this same or a simialr being several times again during my 20,s but dressed in what i thought was a 1920,s 30,s gangster type outfit with the hat . It often appeared when i woke up after coming back into my body from an astral type experience. i neverrecalledleavingmy body but always rushing back into it . often during afternoon meditation or nap .:D

[rhydra]

Supposing you see one and it disappears into say a wall. I keep wondering if you run fast enough to where it disappeared some sort of portal would still be open, just long enough to pass though. And if so, if the portal door type thing did allow passage.... Where would one end up?

I always imagine they come from somewhere like this.

http://img708.imageshack.us/img708/3161/nandihills2.jpg

Furthermore, imagine ending up somewhere like that and not being able to get back!

[pound]

Alot of people report seeing these things while astral travelling from the little bit of reading that Ive done into this area of phenomena.
Again, I can remember a Coast 2 Coast episode about astral travelling and shadow people. Very interesting.

[dunadan]

I have a few other questions about seeing them, actually.

1. Did you guys experience them as a full size human, larger, smaller etc?

Full size humanoid in a column of almost 'solid' black

2. Do you think they are really an omen of death, or perhaps that their appearance brings with it such a powerful burst of negative energy that it can cause such things to manifest in one's life?

I dont know about that as bad things do just sometimes happen anyway. I believe that they may be just a sign of the times i.e 'End of Days' changing times and that issues that there are those who wish to bring these entities forth into our world/dimension.

3. What kind of feelings accompany the experience? I mean I'm guessing most people freaked, but did anyone experience a calm encounter?

I was calm, as it looked like another human, until it vanished into thin air, then I just thought;- "oh well another supernatural experience - I wonder what 'he' was/where was 'he' from?"

4. Do you think they are more attracted to certain types of people, or is it more likely to be the energy pattern of the area, for example ley lines like dunadan mentioned (screw living on a ley line...).

Possibly, they let you know that they know - sort of thing. They also travel along Leys or Geopathic lines etc..


5. Anyone found a way of being rid of the shadow people or protecting oneself from their appearance, or is it generally accepted that if they're around there's not much that can be done?

Crystals, 'bubble' or 'bell-jar' meditation protection, prayer, anti-geopathic tools/products etc..

Don't want to seem insensitive to things like death but I'm very intrigued by all of this. And probably unlikely to sleep tonight either :rolleyes:

I hope that the above helps - I tried to answer earlier and the system wouldnt let me - I wonder if there was a reason for that?

[2013]

http://www.philae.nu/akhet/KaBa.html
egyptians saw the human soul as having 5 parts the last being the shadow .Cant copy and paste from the page so check the link for info .~There was a shadow that accompanied the dead into the afterlife . wether this was the persons own shadow or an aspect of them im not sure but seems similar to the shadow beings at least :D

[dunadan]

http://www.philae.nu/akhet/KaBa.html
egyptians saw the human soul as having 5 parts the last being the shadow .Cant copy and paste from the page so check the link for info .~There was a shadow that accompanied the dead into the afterlife . wether this was the persons own shadow or an aspect of them im not sure but seems similar to the shadow beings at least :D

That is interesting - you could be onto something.

The Kabbalists say three parts, which 'head off', over a period of 13 months.

The shadow being/entity that I saw seemed to be completely unaware of me - unless that is what it wanted me to think:eek::D.

[zach luebke]

When something 3D hits a 2D world do you know what it'd look like to to the ones living in the 2D world? Same for 4D objects entering a 3D world. The full scale and concept of the object will only, partially be seen. Most shadow people are seen as flat, 2D. Why¿ The full scale of such dimensions pertaining to an object can not be seen in the dimensions of our world.

[dunadan]

When something 3D hits a 2D world do you know what it'd look like to to the ones living in the 2D world? Same for 4D objects entering a 3D world. The full scale and concept of the object will only, partially be seen. Most shadow people are seen as flat, 2D. Why¿ The full scale of such dimensions pertaining to an object can not be seen in the dimensions of our world.

The one I viewed was 3D and it vanished in front of my eyes:eek:

[ra86]

This is just an experience i would like to share, hurridly before i pop off to work.
I was at my cousins house, in Dyserth i'm pretty certain, which my crazed Mother had convinced herself of being haunted. Hanged men in the attic, that kind of things. She claimed to have seen a mans shadow on top of the 1st stair case one night. It was quite a big house, not really sure how old it was, but the attic was now a bedroom. Anyway, i must have been about 6, so i had a wild imagination as it was (still do) and i was sat in the dining room on the big wooden table eating a sausage sandwich covered in brown sauce (i love the stuff). My aunt was in the other room, which was the kitchen. I sat eating it happily minding my own buisness, only to turn my head left at the window (it was pitch black outside at that time) and see the most hideous face. It was wrinkled up and long and hooded, like the witch from 'snow white'.
Now i've been reading a few threads about 'shadow men' and 'reptilians' etc. This being certainly felt male, and i can still see it now. The skin was almost green i think, (although i'm colour blind so could be wrong) and looked like it was melting, kind of like the 'scream' painting. it was very much real.
I ran into the kitchen panicing saying there was a man staring at me through the window, my aunt ran in and looked, suprise suprise, nothing. She blamed my over active imagination.
And a few years later when i told my cousin about this anomily, he said it was their large, hairy dog. Would have been possibly standing on it's hind legs, had they actually had the damn thing back then!!! The house was awful,, i always dreaded going there, i needed my other younger cousin to escort me to the bathroom and stand in there with me (hahaha). Just a horrible feeling. Other stuff happened in there too, just generally making people a bit weird in the head etc.
So please share your thoughts anyway

(I've copied and pasted this from a thread i wrote, thought it was best to put it here aswell)
See i had the same 'hooded figure' except i could it's face, cold staring eyes and everything. weird

[orbione]

THE SHADOWMAN II - YouTube

This is a video of "The Shadowman" i captured in energy form not as it is usually observed whilst he is observing people in shadow form,if you can see this individual within this energy structure then you will know what i am talking about.

This is a still picture taken from the same event.
I hope you can see him
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/count-von-carstein/Tophatman-1.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/count-von-carstein/Tophatman-1-1.jpg

[dunadan]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=MDzlbMX-mXc

This is a video of "The Shadowman" i captured in energy form not as it is usually observed whilst he is observing people in shadow form,if you can see this individual within this energy structure then you will know what i am talking about.

This is a still picture taken from the same event.
I hope you can see him
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/count-von-carstein/Tophatman-1.jpghttp://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/count-von-carstein/Tophatman-1-1.jpg

What sort of size and scale are we talking about here?

The one which I saw was human shape and size (looked almost like a humanbeing yet it disappeared before my eyes - looked solid before it did though):eek:

[orbione]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/count-von-carstein/ShadowmanA-1.jpg

This is a slightly cropped copy of the original picture to show the scale and surroundings at the time of capture.
When this picture was taken the room was dark it was 21:15pm 24/11/08
If i remember correctly i saw a big black shape move in the room at the time so i pointed the camera at it and this is the result.
The image inside the energy capture is that of the man or entity with the hat,it's been noted before that when people have seen spirit and been quick enough to either fire off a shot with a camera they either get a plasma energy or an energy orb structure,these things move very fast i guess i was either very lucky if that's the right phrase or this entity wanted me to see it as confirmation of existance. :)

[dunadan]

http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v490/count-von-carstein/ShadowmanA-1.jpg

This is a slightly cropped copy of the original picture to show the scale and surroundings at the time of capture.
When this picture was taken the room was dark it was 21:15pm 24/11/08
If i remember correctly i saw a big black shape move in the room at the time so i pointed the camera at it and this is the result.
The image inside the energy capture is that of the man or entity with the hat,it's been noted before that when people have seen spirit and been quick enough to either fire off a shot with a camera they either get a plasma energy or an energy orb structure,these things move very fast i guess i was either very lucky if that's the right phrase or this entity wanted me to see it as confirmation of existance. :)

It is an amazing photo and very intriguing - thank you!

Yes it wanted to be seen, I am sure that it is a concious thing for them when we are 'allowed' to see them - I see orbs/lights a lot of the time too.

[crystalline]

the shadowpeople I saw were human size and black shadows.

[why_do_it_to_yourself]

I have seen one TBH this thread sends shivers down my spine :( I am literally shaking typing this ffs.

When I was a kid I used to get Sleep Paralysis well I moved around alot with my family and I can only remember it happening when we lived in this particular flat in central London. From memory nearly every night while at this flat I used to wake up paralyzed not being able to move. I can remember desperately trying to shake my self awake trust me not a nice thing!!

I would say this happened to me between the age of 9-13 uk people old enough will remember back in 87 when we had a massive hurricane. Well that night again I woke up while asleep eventually shook myself out of it then standing in the window arms crossed looking at me was a Shadow man just like the drawings :eek: SERIOUSLY I have shivers down my spine thinking about it !! I screamed my mum came in and it was gone !!


As to negative things happening at the time well my Mum and Dad where not going through a good time I was getting bullied at school my Dad died a few years after that we moved out of the flat and I have not seen it or had Sleep paralysis again im 32 now.

One thing I do see thinking about it is sometimes out of the corner of my eye I see what cant be bigger than a cat a black shape it happens quite frequently to this day.

I cant describe the fear I feel even thinking about it TBH :(

I can also remember my cousin seeing one on a family holiday to France when I was 18 we stayed in an old barn he had the top bunk and woke everyone up screaming that he had had a Black shadow figure floating over over him I was in the bottom bunk oblivious to it all. :eek:


One thing I saw a thread on smoking the other day and someone mentioned
Indians used tobacco to ward of Evil spirits and I started smoking at 13ish I would be interested to hear if the people that saw these things were smokers at the time ?

[orbione]

Iv'e never been a smoker and have had this entity cross my path or vice versa a number of times.
The first time was when i was still in the armed forces back in 1992 shortly before i quit,whilst working a night shift in a military hospital we had a civillian patient an old lady who kept slipping in and out of conciousness,now the thing is when she was talking she kept telling me that she didn't like the dark man with the hat who was standing at the fence waiting for her, she described him and it was the atypical "Hat man".
I was called away to do the night wardmaster rounds and 15 mins later this patient passed into the spirit world.
The other thing she kept wanting to see were pictures of horses or horses don't know if it's of any relevence.

What this shadow or entity/dark angel represents is still unknown,what is known is that it is seen all over the planet in many locations and by millions of people most of whom never heard of it before,therefore on the balance of probability and the weight of the evidence incoming it must exist as to it's true nature that's still speculative.

My own feelings however tend to errr on the side of this particular entity being "The angel of death" if something bad happens or someone dies around you this entiy seems to always have a hand in the fire even if it is not directly attributed to the person seeing and having the experience.

I don't tend to go after chasing this one,normally if it shows up which is quite rare,personaly i think it's best left to doing whatever it's mission is to do and hope not to cross it's path too many times.:)

[dunadan]

Iv'e never been a smoker and have had this entity cross my path or vice versa a number of times.
The first time was when i was still in the armed forces back in 1992 shortly before i quit,whilst working a night shift in a military hospital we had a civillian patient an old lady who kept slipping in and out of conciousness,now the thing is when she was talking she kept telling me that she didn't like the dark man with the hat who was standing at the fence waiting for her, she described him and it was the atypical "Hat man".
I was called away to do the night wardmaster rounds and 15 mins later this patient passed into the spirit world.
The other thing she kept wanting to see were pictures of horses or horses don't know if it's of any relevence.

What this shadow or entity/dark angel represents is still unknown,what is known is that it is seen all over the planet in many locations and by millions of people most of whom never heard of it before,therefore on the balance of probability and the weight of the evidence incoming it must exist as to it's true nature that's still speculative.

My own feelings however tend to errr on the side of this particular entity being "The angel of death" if something bad happens or someone dies around you this entiy seems to always have a hand in the fire even if it is not directly attributed to the person seeing and having the experience.

I don't tend to go after chasing this one,normally if it shows up which is quite rare,personaly i think it's best left to doing whatever it's mission is to do and hope not to cross it's path too many times.:)

I quite understand what you are saying as this all your comments ring quite true. I would never go looking for these entities, yet I know someone who does/wishes too, best left alone I say.

The other issue which is apparent is that certain entities can travel along Leys (so called Leylines) or more specifically the geopathic stress lines which I have mentioned on this site before. They use such like the tube train/stations. I know the guy who lives in the house which the shadow figure/entity appeared oustside and he regularly sees "deamons" in his home! He and his family, I am convinced, have an entity or entities attached.:eek:

I wish I had made a note of the date when I saw the last one as a close family member was critically ill (died twice - then in a coma for a time) yet has made a recovery, I can't honestly say if the two things are linked yet is was at the same time of year - early winter. I worked hard with remote healing and we kept him focused on living by constantly talking of dates in the future and things to look forward to, all whilst he was in the coma and to be frank at death's door - whilst all of these things are the Source's (God's) Will - our hard work seemed to pay off. Whilst in and around ICU/HDU in the hospital I had to ground myself and stay very focused as there was so much energy in the place - all calling out for attention, I also picked up on geopathic stress there too - and did my best to heal it.

[ladygoogoo]

I had visitations by shadow man when I was an undergraduate in my dorm room. I was alone in a one room dorm at the top of a 5th floor walkup. From time to time I would fall asleep and would be awoken around midnight (like the phone rang) and I would see a man at the foot of my bed. I had NO idea what this was until I found DI forum and rense.com and found Brad Steiger explain to me what it was and he confirmed I did see one several times. I do not remember the trench coat and hat. Maybe once he was usually by my bed. It started at foot of my bed and gradually as visitations reoccured he made his way to stand right at the head of my bed with his hands out toward me palm up. I was freaked out I yelled i threw the covers on him. So I have experienced it and when you read about these beings they love to inspire terror and feed on fear. They are not to be messed with nor allowed in your home or bedroom under any circumstances. I lived in the same room for 3 years of college. I believe the visitations happened when I was 19-20 years old.

[lyricusmagna]

Video Description: First known video of a Shad­ow Man, from the res­i­dence of our wit­ness.
http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=102756452

They seem to visit young kids the most. I had a lot of Shadow People events happen in the daycare center when I was a small kid. Funny thing was, teachers didn't see them, but the other kids did.

Anyone had an experience where the Shadow Folk would manifest as a sphere/orb?

The one I viewed was 3D and it vanished in front of my eyes:eek:

I second this. They didn't look 2D, but very much 3D.

[dunadan]

Our neighbour came to us this morning and mentioned that she heard 'those voices' again calling out her name!:eek: I heard one too calling her this morning.

Is she mad? No because before we protected oursleves we had experienced the same!

What is kicking off this off you might ask? Well another neighbour is having building works done which can - and does - disturb geopathic stress lines and I had a inkling a few days ago - outside of our/my protection zone - when I felt very nauseous (amongst other things), so more protection was needed. I will offer to help out the neighbour if she is open to such and help to protect her home too.

Time to be watchful again...........

[crystalline]

Iv'e never been a smoker and have had this entity cross my path or vice versa a number of times.
The first time was when i was still in the armed forces back in 1992 shortly before i quit,whilst working a night shift in a military hospital we had a civillian patient an old lady who kept slipping in and out of conciousness,now the thing is when she was talking she kept telling me that she didn't like the dark man with the hat who was standing at the fence waiting for her, she described him and it was the atypical "Hat man".
I was called away to do the night wardmaster rounds and 15 mins later this patient passed into the spirit world.
The other thing she kept wanting to see were pictures of horses or horses don't know if it's of any relevence.

What this shadow or entity/dark angel represents is still unknown,what is known is that it is seen all over the planet in many locations and by millions of people most of whom never heard of it before,therefore on the balance of probability and the weight of the evidence incoming it must exist as to it's true nature that's still speculative.

My own feelings however tend to errr on the side of this particular entity being "The angel of death" if something bad happens or someone dies around you this entiy seems to always have a hand in the fire even if it is not directly attributed to the person seeing and having the experience.

I don't tend to go after chasing this one,normally if it shows up which is quite rare,personaly i think it's best left to doing whatever it's mission is to do and hope not to cross it's path too many times.:)+1 apart from I have been a smoker.

[dunadan]

Our neighbour came to us this morning and mentioned that she heard 'those voices' again calling out her name!:eek: I heard one too calling her this morning.

Is she mad? No because before we protected oursleves we had experienced the same!

What is kicking off this off you might ask? Well another neighbour is having building works done which can - and does - disturb geopathic stress lines and I had a inkling a few days ago - outside of our/my protection zone - when I felt very nauseous (amongst other things), so more protection was needed. I will offer to help out the neighbour if she is open to such and help to protect her home too.

Time to be watchful again...........

In addition I went down with a 'flu like virus this week - could be coincidence (this word means the perfect meeting of two angles:);)), yet research has indicated that GS can weaken the immune system and re-activate old/dorment viruses. I havent - knowingly - been near anyone with any similar viruses. I know that there are some about locally so who knows.. just a virus or GS? I dowsed for an answer and got back GS - I had been outside of the zone of our protection against such and I shall have to now re-check/protect our property/garden now that the neighbour's works appear to have finished.

Just though I'd get this down as it all goes into the repository of knowledge - even though anecdotal:)

[why_do_it_to_yourself]

Bump !!! have not seen a shadow man for years but it still send shivers down my spine :mad::(


WTF are they ????????

[dunadan]

Bump !!! have not seen a shadow man for years but it still send shivers down my spine :mad::(


WTF are they ????????

One thing seems clear there is a strong association between them and geopathic stress lines (or so called, black leys/leylines) and their use for travel and energy etc...

[orbione]

I'm Not sure about the geopathic line connection,we don't have recorded stress lines close to the house the nearest fault line is ancient and is 6 miles away,however the house and part of the estate is built on top of an old graveyard,i had a few visitors in the house last night from the spirit world and i managed to get the name "Ruth" by asking who was there,and when i also asked how many were also here she said "15"
I think a lot of these are attatched to the burial site but i can't prove that for sure and we don't even know if the bodies were left in situ,as for the "Shadowman" ive not seen him or any other shadows around for a little while which is good news really.:)

[dunadan]

I'm Not sure about the geopathic line connection,we don't have recorded stress lines close to the house the nearest fault line is ancient and is 6 miles away,however the house and part of the estate is built on top of an old graveyard,i had a few visitors in the house last night from the spirit world and i managed to get the name "Ruth" by asking who was there,and when i also asked how many were also here she said "15"
I think a lot of these are attatched to the burial site but i can't prove that for sure and we don't even know if the bodies were left in situ,as for the "Shadowman" ive not seen him or any other shadows around for a little while which is good news really.:)

Hi,

Geopathic Stress Lines do not always coincide with actual stress lines/fault lines. The fact that you live on or near to an old graveyard (church yard too?), means that more than likely you are on a 'Green' Ley as clasified by many BSD members. That type of Ley is very good at conducting spirits/ghosts et al. too.

I am concerned that you are having conversations with these spirits or entities, are you moving them on to the light or are they trapped there? What is the purpose of you conversations (from your point of view and theirs)?

I have read elewhere that, apart from souls being confused/trapped/died quickly/not knowing that they are dead/'asleep' in the ground etc., that some buriel grounds have - almost - been designed so as to trap souls (I have yet to do more reserch on this aspect of the matter though).

How do you feel when you are in your home and indeed when you are contacted by such spirits? How do you feel health wise as well as emotionally?

:)

Dunadan.

[orbione]

No need to worry about me i'm fully in control and very well looked after by my guardians and angelic overseers,but thanks for the concern anyway.:)

Personally i dont believe there is no "moving them onto the light" and there is no such thing as an "Earthbound" we each gravitate to the vibrational plane that we are best suited to after death,some of these planes are closer to our physical vibrational field hence they get perceived more easily and generally have lower vibrational energy's attatched living in them,it's another reason why "Aliens/Angels/Demonics" are prevelent in interdimensional space both of higher and lower vibrational fields,don't forget Angels and Demonics by virtue of the way they exist would also be termed "Alien" not of the physical plane unless they wish to manifest in such a way.

As far as i would be concerned you cannot "Cleanse"/"Smudge" force any kind of spirit to go where it's place is not to be as defined by the creator or "God" if you like,you can only ask them and try to persuade them that it is time for them to seek a higher vibrational status,you can't force an eviction and neither would i go about doing so as more often than not they do come back after a short time span.;)

Eventually we lose the connections to the physical plane that keeps many spirit people here concern for their family / home etc etc and they move on,some spirits choose to remain in their alloted plane of existance close to the earth plane for a very long time,as they seek the physicality that they no longer have and prefer to stay around those who have embodiment,their choice i guess or they seek re-embodiment or spirit posession of others often leading to mental breakdown as the spiritual energy of that body is fought over leading to physical illness in many cases,as far as i know imo it would be the same process for ET contact of non physical reality energy's linking in with the host spiritual energy field and transferring thought patterns / imagery.

Spirits from all planar levels do and quite regularly make their presence felt within the physical realm when the need is such to do so.:)

Suprisingly enough graveyards are not the best place to go looking for spirit activity as they generally have better things to be doing than wandering around their burial site.:D

Generally i just let them go about their buisiness,as for my health and well being i suffer more from the physical/medical problems brought on by "Gulf war illness" than i do with contact with the spirit world.:)


People often ask me why do i believe.. in 1992 i had a direct confrontation with the one of the "Spiritual masters" from the higher planes which was confirmed to me at a later date soon afterwards,i have had a number of "Angelic" encounters since then,so to me these beings are very real but they don't seem overly concerned with religion as we know it or perceive it,they are there as messengers only,but how that message is perceived is another thing altogether.:)

[dunadan]

No need to worry about me i'm fully in control and very well looked after by my guardians and angelic overseers,but thanks for the concern anyway.:)

Glad to hear it:)

Personally i dont believe there is no "moving them onto the light" and there is no such thing as an "Earthbound" we each gravitate to the vibrational plane that we are best suited to after death,some of these planes are closer to our physical vibrational field hence they get perceived more easily and generally have lower vibrational energy's attatched living in them,it's another reason why "Aliens/Angels/Demonics" are prevelent in interdimensional space both of higher and lower vibrational fields,don't forget Angels and Demonics by virtue of the way they exist would also be termed "Alien" not of the physical plane unless they wish to manifest in such a way.

Yes to a degree some spirits/souls which wish to be in the ground and stay there as 'earthbound' (I use such phrases only as a point of reference) are happy there until we dig up the land - especially so in UK prior to recession with the multitude of buildling works etc. - then such spirits/souls are disturbed and can attach themselves out of confusion, the need for energy etc.....Then there is the matter of underground nuclear explosions, mining etc...

What are your thoughts on the sea of souls?

As far as i would be concerned you cannot "Cleanse"/"Smudge" force any kind of spirit to go where it's place is not to be as defined by the creator or "God" if you like,you can only ask them and try to persuade them that it is time for them to seek a higher vibrational status,you can't force an eviction and neither would i go about doing so as more often than not they do come back after a short time span.;)

I agree, I never force anything, I always ask for permission, the best intention and the greater good etc. Yet there are entities which take from the living which more often than not can be helped, yet there are occassionally those who do not want to be helped even though they are causing the living issues and maybe even harm, then it is down to guardians et al. to work with these entities....

Eventually we lose the connections to the physical plane that keeps many spirit people here concern for their family / home etc etc and they move on,some spirits choose to remain in their alloted plane of existance close to the earth plane for a very long time,as they seek the physicality that they no longer have and prefer to stay around those who have embodiment,their choice i guess or they seek re-embodiment or spirit posession of others often leading to mental breakdown as the spiritual energy of that body is fought over leading to physical illness in many cases,as far as i know imo it would be the same process for ET contact of non physical reality energy's linking in with the host spiritual energy field and transferring thought patterns / imagery.

This all stems from issues such as human ego etc. with a soul being too attached to the personality etc. it can also come from confusion at the point of death or indeed the classic unfinished business..... As I said these souls seek energy from the living, which is wrong as they should turn or return to the Source, one can forgive that in many, as many are lost and confused, yet some are not and know they shouldnt be doing what they are doing, by, effectively, taking energy which is not theirs to take. As in life most people are good yet from time to time one comes across those who are not.....

Spirits from all planar levels do and quite regularly make their presence felt within the physical realm when the need is such to do so.:)

Yes, I have my guides and always ask for help from the Source and then the angels

Suprisingly enough graveyards are not the best place to go looking for spirit activity as they generally have better things to be doing than wandering around their burial site.:D

I agree, yet some disturbances have been identified by dowsers in and around church yards of late - as yet no explanation as to why. IMHO, in short, a change in the planet and in our times


Generally i just let them go about their buisiness,as for my health and well being i suffer more from the physical/medical problems brought on by "Gulf war illness" than i do with contact with the spirit world.:)

I am sorry to hear that, I know how that feels, humanity is, at times, its own worst enemy. At times though the spirit world can have a very negative effect upon the living especially when coupled with geopathic stress and negative energy lines, which seem impact on both the living and the 'dead'

People often ask me why do i believe.. in 1992 i had a direct confrontation with the one of the "Spiritual masters" from the higher planes which was confirmed to me at a later date soon afterwards,i have had a number of "Angelic" encounters since then,so to me these beings are very real but they don't seem overly concerned with religion as we know it or perceive it,they are there as messengers only,but how that message is perceived is another thing altogether.:)

I have had similar experiences too and I see such as just part of this rich and wonderful universe, which challenges us, in the way we need to be challenged for our progression (not a glib statement and easier said than done I know)

I hope that helps - it seems that we are roughly in agreement, I am glad to hear that you know what you are doing and are happy with the work:)

[getmeout]

It was one of these shadowmen that brought my soul to this incarnation.

:)

Please expand on that.

I'm really interested in this subject.. too many people i know have told me about their experiences with them to not take them seriously, and i have encountered them at night in some sort of twilight zone between waking and sleeping where i have clearly seen them enter my bedroom and coming up next to me usually ending in sleep paralysis or even OBE.

Check this one
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=100161

[toroth]

I've seen these shadow figures on 3 separate occasions while also catching glimpses of them many times in my peripherals. The best way to see them is to stay up longer than 24 hours because for some reason the effects are similar to that of taking amphetamines / marijuana.

It is quite fantastic to watch. One night I was just laying down after smoking a blunt and being up for a couple days and 4 of them circled my recliner wearing hoods and looking smoky-black in color, couldn't make out any eyes though. They're really nothing to fear unless you just like to feel fear.

[pound]

I've seen these shadow figures on 3 separate occasions while also catching glimpses of them many times in my peripherals. The best way to see them is to stay up longer than 24 hours because for some reason the effects are similar to that of taking amphetamines / marijuana.

It is quite fantastic to watch. One night I was just laying down after smoking a blunt and being up for a couple days and 4 of them circled my recliner wearing hoods and looking smoky-black in color, couldn't make out any eyes though. They're really nothing to fear unless you just like to feel fear.


The clothing of these entities i.e. antiquated top hats, ceremonial cloaks and hoods etc...makes me wonder if these beings are either inter-dimensional time travelers of some sort or ET's with a serious kitsch for eccentric fashion. :confused: Talk about utterly bizarre.

I would love to hear Icke's take on this phenomena.

[biblegirl]

The clothing of these entities i.e. antiquated top hats, ceremonial cloaks and hoods etc...makes me wonder if these beings are either inter-dimensional time travelers of some sort or ET's with a serious kitsch for eccentric fashion. :confused: Talk about utterly bizarre.

I would love to hear Icke's take on this phenomena.

lol i've always wondered about the clothes too! it does seem to suggest some serious time warp-age

were the cloaked/hooded ones in the middle of some ritual which enabled them to even show up in the first place?

[celtiana]

Can they effect objects? because I saw something similar to the picture of the figure in the hood, when I was 15, it was all black and big (looked a bit bigger then a well built man and tall) but I dismissed it when I first saw it and it disappeared but then the door kept banging against the wall repeatidly. I shouted 'enough, stop!' and it all stopped. I've never seen anything like it since though. I didn't think it was a spirit as such, because usually I know if there is a spirit because there is a feeling with them, but there was nothing with this (yep I know you'll all think I'm bonkers now lol)

[dunadan]

Can they effect objects? because I saw something similar to the picture of the figure in the hood, when I was 15, it was all black and big (looked a bit bigger then a well built man and tall) but I dismissed it when I first saw it and it disappeared but then the door kept banging against the wall repeatidly. I shouted 'enough, stop!' and it all stopped. I've never seen anything like it since though. I didn't think it was a spirit as such, because usually I know if there is a spirit because there is a feeling with them, but there was nothing with this (yep I know you'll all think I'm bonkers now lol)

+ 1

They can walk through walls/disappear so......

Dunadan:)

[jimj_wpg]

As I understand things now, some of these shadow people are our spirit guides - those who we ourselves chose to be our helpful guide as we incarnate in this lifetime.

Other shadow people are more attached or connected with a location.

Others are sucubus and incubus.

But it is the first ones -- the spirit guides, that have me worried. Why do so many of us forget that we chose/invited them with us before we were born? We allowed them to keep watch over us, to record our actions, to advise us in life.

So many of us have forgotten. But now many are remembering again, and that's a great thing that is occurring. Websites like this, websites like YourGhostStories.com, paranormal ghost hunting shows on cable/satellite.

Please don't send your spirit guide to Heaven or have your house blessed to get rid of them. They are meant to be with you. Remember them by asking them their names. We each have a Guardian Angel (or more) and several Spirit Guides, and one day when we leave our bodies for good (in this lifetime) they will be with us during our Life Review (and according to Michael Newton) accompany us in our review before the Council of Elders in Heaven.

They're our friends.

[celtiana]

I believe in Guardian Angels/ Spirit guides, as when I was a teenager in college, I was about to cross a road that was on a corner with no pavement, and it was very difficult to see if anything was coming. I was about to walk onto the road, not really concentrating and I felt a very hard prod in my back, I stopped and turned around and no one was there, but the next second a big bike shot passed where I would of been if I'd of crossed that road.

Also when I was having a hard time 2 years ago, I was pregnant (had been told by dr's I couldn't have more children so came as a surprise) and was thinking it may be best for us not to have the child (bad financial difficulties, and we where on the brink of being made homeless, we had 2 children, one of which is autistic) and I kept finding white feathers, in the middle of the floor, which hadn't been there when I'd left the room, and we have no feather pillows or anything with white feathers in, the last feather was large and it fell onto my lap when I was sitting down. I did keep the baby (and he's gorgeous) we're not homeless and finanically we're alot better now then we where.

So I do believe there is something there. But what I saw in my mums house, was something different, whatever it was I think it wanted my attention, I don't really think it was a demon because it left when I asked it to, I don't think it was a guardian spirit though, just something passing through.

sorry for the long post, rambled a bit there.

[getmeout]

As I understand things now, some of these shadow people are our spirit guides - those who we ourselves chose to be our helpful guide as we incarnate in this lifetime.

Other shadow people are more attached or connected with a location.

Others are sucubus and incubus.

But it is the first ones -- the spirit guides, that have me worried. Why do so many of us forget that we chose/invited them with us before we were born? We allowed them to keep watch over us, to record our actions, to advise us in life.

So many of us have forgotten. But now many are remembering again, and that's a great thing that is occurring. Websites like this, websites like YourGhostStories.com, paranormal ghost hunting shows on cable/satellite.

Please don't send your spirit guide to Heaven or have your house blessed to get rid of them. They are meant to be with you. Remember them by asking them their names. We each have a Guardian Angel (or more) and several Spirit Guides, and one day when we leave our bodies for good (in this lifetime) they will be with us during our Life Review (and according to Michael Newton) accompany us in our review before the Council of Elders in Heaven.

They're our friends.

Well, i don't know about them being spirit guides. The ones i've encountered where definately not positive.
They try their best to intimidate you in dreams and open your base chakras with fear and sexual excitement to feed of that energy (or whatever the purpose is for doing that). And they are responsible for sleep paralysis and trying to pull you out of your body and can project all kind of nasty imagry and voices to your mind while you are in that state.

I have never had a positive encounter with one of those beings..
Hyperdimensional Aliens & Angelic Egregores (Djinn) - YouTube
Hyperdimensional Aliens & Angelic Egregores (Djinn)

[dunadan]

Well, i don't know about them being spirit guides. The ones i've encountered where definately not positive.
They try their best to intimidate you in dreams and open your base chakras with fear and sexual excitement to feed of that energy (or whatever the purpose is for doing that). And they are responsible for sleep paralysis and trying to pull you out of your body and can project all kind of nasty imagry and voices to your mind while you are in that state.

I have never had a positive encounter with one of those beings..
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVjxqCy0X30
Hyperdimensional Aliens & Angelic Egregores (Djinn) (http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=SVjxqCy0X30)

On the whole + 1.

I now believe that when I saw one, that I was under, for want of a better phrase, 'psychic attack' from another human.......ties have been cut now....

[bladerunn123]

Ok This will be my first post here on the forum and might well be labeled a loon because of it, But I was so shocked to find this topic and to know that others have had a man in black encounter! I cant really say shadow because to this day he was solid and real in my mind and has been major mystery in my life to this day.
I was 7yrs old and lived on Base housing dad was in the military, we did move alot, I remember the day was busy with play as our babysitter and family friend had her kids over and we spent the day playing hard at the park, we all got back to my house that evening (maybe 6pmish the sun was setting low in the sky). It was strange enough remembering that I was especially tired as soon as we walked in the door, I said I am tired im going to bed (it was strange because im 7 and normally had great stamina for staying awake) . I went straight to my bedroom , opened my door and the light switch on my left inside the door was switched on by me, My Bunkbed ( I shared with my little brother at the time, bottom bunk was mine) was in the same direction as the light switch, as soon as the light turned on There he was!! He was bending down at my bed pillow, bottom bunk, so i saw the back half of him, when I realized there was a man in my room and extremely startled (not thinking he was a spirit or ghost mind you but a solid man 3D) I screamed bloody murder, however I dont normally behave that way, I was a good kid. As I was screaming He heard me and stood straight up, I did not see a face on him at all, but he was wearing a black trench coat and a black rimmed hat, I remember even hearing the swishing of his coat as he moved to run towards my bedroom window, that was the only way out unless he ran towards me at the door and he didnt , I was screaming and running straight out the room ( all of this happening at about a 3 second event) I heard a loud slam behind me and assumed that the window that was loose and always needed a board in it to keep it open had been knocked out by his fleeing. The sitter called the police and that is the end of my perception of the story, I remember telling the police about the man and pretty much the same as said above.

Move ahead to when Im 18, Im having a casual reminiscing conversation with my older brother, who was 10 at the time of the man in black in my room incident, I said to him OH My god do you remember the man that was in my room in Georgia! He looked at me with a serious concern on his face and it in turn, made me say to him in a nervous way "what". He paused for a long time and said I have to tell you something, I remember feeling uncomfortable about the whole thing, but now i was really curious as what he was about to say, I refreshed the memory to him and he said to me let me tell you what I know about that event, and I have never told you. He said first of all the police said you where lying and making it up, I was shocked not knowing this information, But My brother said he over heard them talking and he got mad and yelled at them saying my sister is not lying!! They ignored him, He over heard them saying I was lying because There was no way a full size man went through my window, and I asked my brother why? He said that not a single cobweb was broken, they are all in tack. At this moment I was horrified the implications that my brother must of thought i was a nut job all this time, and I was worried I may be nuts at this point. I have wrestled with it ever since I heard this, because HE WAS THERE solid as ever..and i never thought for a moment I was hallucinating!
But there's more and I have no single recollection of this part, Prob cuz I didn't go back into my room right after, My brother continued his recollection of events, Remember the window slamming I heard when I was high tailing it out of the room? Well we had a black and white kitty at the time, and apparently, and this is so hard for me to swallow, the window had slammed down on my Kittys neck and killed him instantly! Now after discussing all the possibilities here, even thinking to myself, maybe I made up the man in black so I didn't have deal with the reality of my kitty in the window, You know how they say your mind will do strange things to protect you from traumatic things you cant handle, I just couldnt buy it because my eyes never made it to my window...it was light switch on, man bent over my bunk, and the screaming and then turning to run and in the process of me turning to run, he turned and i heard the swishing of his coat saw the hat and he could have only gone out my window because it was the only way out the direction he was heading.

The only thing besides my story, That I can add is that I noticed most visit from shadowy man in black visits happen to people who are an odd number age ie: 7yrs old, 13yrs,19yrs. this one incident has left my mind open waiting for an explanation. Oh and Hello everyone Nice to meet you ;)

[daou]

Shadow Man - David Bowie

David Bowie ~ Shadow Man - YouTube

There's a man back a-ways
Who believes at where he is
And there's a girl
Up ahead who says she knows

And the street overflows
With the folk who understand
But for the guy who can't be seen

He's the Shadow Man
And the Shadow Man is close at hand

Take a turn and see his smile
Made of nothing but loneliness
Just take a walk and be a friend
To the Shadow Man

You can call him Joe, you can call him Sam
You should call and see who answers
For he promises to come running, guided by the truth
But the Shadow Man is really you

Look into his eyes and see your reflection
Look to the stars and see his eyes
He'll show you tomorrow, he'll show you the sorrows
Of what you did today

You can call him foe, you can call him friend
You should call and see who answers
For he knows your eyes are drawn
To the road ahead
And the Shadow Man is waiting round the bend
Oh, shadow man
Shadow man, shadow man
It's really you, it's really you, it's really you
He's the shadow man

[daou]

http://ghosthuntersofamerica.com/ghostphotos/images/Juanita_SHADOW_man.jpg

[daou]

'Seeking The Shadow Man'

http://www.fluent.co.nz/deeart/artworks/af_SeekingTheShadowMan.jpg

[daou]

http://www.occultblogger.com/wp-content/uploads/2009/01/shadowman.jpg

[trappedinameatsuit]

I was paralyzed and couldn't scream or say anything when I first encountered a shadow walker. I had heard about sleep paralysis, like it was something normal but there's more to it than just being paralyzed when your seeing shadowy beings at the same time. The moment I broke free and could finally scream. The being swooped away like in the movie Ghost with Patrick Swayze in it, how the shadows floated away toward the ground. I immediately turned on my lights and left that room.

I never slept in the dark again in that house but have unfortunately encountered them with lights on and in daylight. I can't remember the exact date of my last attack but I think it's been maybe 8 years. I just blocked it out and stopped thinking about them. I still get spooked just by thinking of them from time to time and have to turn my television on to go to sleep. lol

Shadow walkers aren't a joke and I'm not proud of being aware of them. It can screw your sleeping pattern up and maybe even turn you into an insomniac. Once you start seeing them and getting attacked your on the edge of being possessed, imo. I'm glad it doesn't happen to me anymore, it's the worst fucking feeling, just being paralyzed and unable to scream with an overwhelming feeling of fear all over you. :eek:

[biblegirl]

welcome to the forum bladerun :) what a great story!! now you've got me wondering how many people have called 911 on these trenchcoat men :eek:

what's with these guys and little kids bedrooms, geez

[trappedinameatsuit]

what's with these guys and little kids bedrooms, geezMaybe they're employed by the catholic church? (jesting, no offense to catholics on here)

[magenta_moonshadow]

I remember seeing some photos on a website several years ago...the site is long-gone, but a quick use of Google and TinEye has found them on other sites.

I make no claims as to the validity (or otherwise) of these pics:

http://almo7assinet.jeeran.com/images/jin/11.jpg

http://i.bigmir.net/img/prikol/images/large/1/6/110761_163149.jpg

[dunadan]

Ok This will be my first post here on the forum and might well be labeled a loon because of it, But I was so shocked to find this topic and to know that others have had a man in black encounter! I cant really say shadow because to this day he was solid and real in my mind and has been major mystery in my life to this day.
I was 7yrs old and lived on Base housing dad was in the military, we did move alot, I remember the day was busy with play as our babysitter and family friend had her kids over and we spent the day playing hard at the park, we all got back to my house that evening (maybe 6pmish the sun was setting low in the sky). It was strange enough remembering that I was especially tired as soon as we walked in the door, I said I am tired im going to bed (it was strange because im 7 and normally had great stamina for staying awake) . I went straight to my bedroom , opened my door and the light switch on my left inside the door was switched on by me, My Bunkbed ( I shared with my little brother at the time, bottom bunk was mine) was in the same direction as the light switch, as soon as the light turned on There he was!! He was bending down at my bed pillow, bottom bunk, so i saw the back half of him, when I realized there was a man in my room and extremely startled (not thinking he was a spirit or ghost mind you but a solid man 3D) I screamed bloody murder, however I dont normally behave that way, I was a good kid. As I was screaming He heard me and stood straight up, I did not see a face on him at all, but he was wearing a black trench coat and a black rimmed hat, I remember even hearing the swishing of his coat as he moved to run towards my bedroom window, that was the only way out unless he ran towards me at the door and he didnt , I was screaming and running straight out the room ( all of this happening at about a 3 second event) I heard a loud slam behind me and assumed that the window that was loose and always needed a board in it to keep it open had been knocked out by his fleeing. The sitter called the police and that is the end of my perception of the story, I remember telling the police about the man and pretty much the same as said above.

Move ahead to when Im 18, Im having a casual reminiscing conversation with my older brother, who was 10 at the time of the man in black in my room incident, I said to him OH My god do you remember the man that was in my room in Georgia! He looked at me with a serious concern on his face and it in turn, made me say to him in a nervous way "what". He paused for a long time and said I have to tell you something, I remember feeling uncomfortable about the whole thing, but now i was really curious as what he was about to say, I refreshed the memory to him and he said to me let me tell you what I know about that event, and I have never told you. He said first of all the police said you where lying and making it up, I was shocked not knowing this information, But My brother said he over heard them talking and he got mad and yelled at them saying my sister is not lying!! They ignored him, He over heard them saying I was lying because There was no way a full size man went through my window, and I asked my brother why? He said that not a single cobweb was broken, they are all in tack. At this moment I was horrified the implications that my brother must of thought i was a nut job all this time, and I was worried I may be nuts at this point. I have wrestled with it ever since I heard this, because HE WAS THERE solid as ever..and i never thought for a moment I was hallucinating!
But there's more and I have no single recollection of this part, Prob cuz I didn't go back into my room right after, My brother continued his recollection of events, Remember the window slamming I heard when I was high tailing it out of the room? Well we had a black and white kitty at the time, and apparently, and this is so hard for me to swallow, the window had slammed down on my Kittys neck and killed him instantly! Now after discussing all the possibilities here, even thinking to myself, maybe I made up the man in black so I didn't have deal with the reality of my kitty in the window, You know how they say your mind will do strange things to protect you from traumatic things you cant handle, I just couldnt buy it because my eyes never made it to my window...it was light switch on, man bent over my bunk, and the screaming and then turning to run and in the process of me turning to run, he turned and i heard the swishing of his coat saw the hat and he could have only gone out my window because it was the only way out the direction he was heading.

The only thing besides my story, That I can add is that I noticed most visit from shadowy man in black visits happen to people who are an odd number age ie: 7yrs old, 13yrs,19yrs. this one incident has left my mind open waiting for an explanation. Oh and Hello everyone Nice to meet you ;)

Welcome, thanks for your comments too - great post:)

[dunadan]

I remember seeing some photos on a website several years ago...the site is long-gone, but a quick use of Google and TinEye has found them on other sites.

I make no claims as to the validity (or otherwise) of these pics:

http://almo7assinet.jeeran.com/images/jin/11.jpg

http://i.bigmir.net/img/prikol/images/large/1/6/110761_163149.jpg


Interesting Post!:eek::eek:

Yet mine looked just like a normal guy/gal yet disappeared before my eyes!:eek:

[dunadan]

I was paralyzed and couldn't scream or say anything when I first encountered a shadow walker. I had heard about sleep paralysis, like it was something normal but there's more to it than just being paralyzed when your seeing shadowy beings at the same time. The moment I broke free and could finally scream. The being swooped away like in the movie Ghost with Patrick Swayze in it, how the shadows floated away toward the ground. I immediately turned on my lights and left that room.

I never slept in the dark again in that house but have unfortunately encountered them with lights on and in daylight. I can't remember the exact date of my last attack but I think it's been maybe 8 years. I just blocked it out and stopped thinking about them. I still get spooked just by thinking of them from time to time and have to turn my television on to go to sleep. lol

Shadow walkers aren't a joke and I'm not proud of being aware of them. It can screw your sleeping pattern up and maybe even turn you into an insomniac. Once you start seeing them and getting attacked your on the edge of being possessed, imo. I'm glad it doesn't happen to me anymore, it's the worst fucking feeling, just being paralyzed and unable to scream with an overwhelming feeling of fear all over you. :eek:

We've had the same with classic UFO/Night-mare experiences - bless you, bless us all. This place is more and more like the Cathars' view of the world?

[dunadan]

Shadow Man - David Bowie

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=CviA-g7TaA8&feature=related

There's a man back a-ways
Who believes at where he is
And there's a girl
Up ahead who says she knows

And the street overflows
With the folk who understand
But for the guy who can't be seen

He's the Shadow Man
And the Shadow Man is close at hand

Take a turn and see his smile
Made of nothing but loneliness
Just take a walk and be a friend
To the Shadow Man

You can call him Joe, you can call him Sam
You should call and see who answers
For he promises to come running, guided by the truth
But the Shadow Man is really you

Look into his eyes and see your reflection
Look to the stars and see his eyes
He'll show you tomorrow, he'll show you the sorrows
Of what you did today

You can call him foe, you can call him friend
You should call and see who answers
For he knows your eyes are drawn
To the road ahead
And the Shadow Man is waiting round the bend
Oh, shadow man
Shadow man, shadow man
It's really you, it's really you, it's really you
He's the shadow man

Hi!

Like the JP Icon BTW:)

Nice post too, the lyrics seem to have some truth within as we live in a universe which seems to operate upon;- 'the law of attraction' - which seems to be a pisser at times as it 'attracts' more of what we dont really want (or at least on this planet it does) rather than helping us to get away from such and attract positive things instead ......yet is this the 'only planet with/of choice' or 'the silent planet'? I have yet to find out.......

Dunadan:)

[daou]

Hi!

Like the JP Icon BTW:)

Nice post too, the lyrics seem to have some truth within as we live in a universe which seems to operate upon;- 'the law of attraction' - which seems to be a pisser at times as it 'attracts' more of what we dont really want (or at least on this planet it does) rather than helping us to get away from such and attract positive things instead ......yet is this the 'only planet with/of choice' or 'the silent planet'? I have yet to find out.......

Dunadan:)

Thanks! :)

[skoda_105]

"Hypnogogia

Also known as waking-sleep, hypnogogia is a documented physiological condition in which a person is part-way between sleeping and waking. During hypnogogia, a person can be conscious and aware of their environment, but also in a dream-like state where they can perceive images from their subconscious. People experiencing waking-sleep commonly report the sensation of lights or shadows moving around them, as well as other visual hallucinations. A feeling of dread is also a sensation that occurs when experiencing hypnogogia. Hypnogogia is sometimes known as 'the faces in the dark phenomenon' because those who experience this state commonly report seeing faces while experiencing waking-sleep. Similar hypothesis have been put forward linking this condition to a number of other apparent paranormal experiences, including alien abductions and paranormal nocturnal visitations."

This has damn happened to me.. often! but it was not always looking like a person, i always happened to be in my bed, "dreaming" It was in the middle of the night, And i woke up, saw some weird things (angels, woman flying and more creepy stuff), I was awake but not totally awake, it was like the stuff i quoted above. but not always a shadow sometimes things and persons with facial stuff not black. I was aware of my environment(my bed) :p

[orbione]

Personally iv'e always seen them while fully awake and lucid and often out of nowhere and while i don't discount the hypnogogic hypothosis that is all it is a hypothosis and speculation, as not even so called science truly knows the answer it's a matter of personal perspective,what is know is this at the end of your days you will either be wrong or right there is no grey area they either exist or they do not,call them whatever you like when your time comes to stand tall before the big boss if there is nothing you won't have any worries, on the other hand if there is then a shit load of people will have much to worry about.



:)

[dunadan]

Personally iv'e always seen them while fully awake and lucid and often out of nowhere and while i don't discount the hypnogogic hypothosis that is all it is a hypothosis and speculation, as not even so called science truly knows the answer it's a matter of personal perspective,what is know is this at the end of your days you will either be wrong or right there is no grey area they either exist or they do not,call them whatever you like when your time comes to stand tall before the big boss if there is nothing you won't have any worries, on the other hand if there is then a shit load of people will have much to worry about.



:)

+1

I have seen such when wide awake.....I know dream states can be confusing and that one must learn to over come the ego's influence during meditation and the like etc. I have alse heard of the scientific view of the night-mare scenario and such could apply in certain cases - yet, I believe, not all cases...

Theoretical Physicists now know that there are parallel universes and some now speculate, that our reallity can be likened to that of a hologram - controlled, if you will, from outside of our own universe.....

Hopefully science will be - soon - balanced and aligned with, so called, spiritual beliefs, as were the works of the great alchemists such as Newton et al....the two disciplines are not exclusive.

[standuptothisshit]

"Hypnogogia

Also known as waking-sleep, hypnogogia is a documented physiological condition in which a person is part-way between sleeping and waking. During hypnogogia, a person can be conscious and aware of their environment, but also in a dream-like state where they can perceive images from their subconscious. People experiencing waking-sleep commonly report the sensation of lights or shadows moving around them, as well as other visual hallucinations. A feeling of dread is also a sensation that occurs when experiencing hypnogogia. Hypnogogia is sometimes known as 'the faces in the dark phenomenon' because those who experience this state commonly report seeing faces while experiencing waking-sleep. Similar hypothesis have been put forward linking this condition to a number of other apparent paranormal experiences, including alien abductions and paranormal nocturnal visitations."

This has damn happened to me.. often! but it was not always looking like a person, i always happened to be in my bed, "dreaming" It was in the middle of the night, And i woke up, saw some weird things (angels, woman flying and more creepy stuff), I was awake but not totally awake, it was like the stuff i quoted above. but not always a shadow sometimes things and persons with facial stuff not black. I was aware of my environment(my bed) :p

This is pretty interesting. I had something similar happen to me last night, I had a dream with a creepy atmosphere which scared me into a 'half-awake' state and it was like I couldn't quite come back to reality - I was stuck in this half-way point where I was still terrified. I turned over at one point and could've sworn somebody was standing at the edge of my bed but it was so hard to tell because I was already feeling frightened for no particular reason. It was pretty unsettling actually.

[silverwand]

I don't know if this is related but when I was about nine years old I had the most horrible nightmare (i'd never had any nightmares before certainly not any I remember) and it happened shortly after we moved to a new house. I woke up one night screaming and crying as I was terrified by a nightmare i'd just had and all I can remember from this nightmare are lots of black,very thin humanoid type "things" that I just knew were coming after me and I had to get away from them or something very awful was going to happen to me. When I was awake right after this nightmare I was still terrified as I felt that these "things" were still coming after me and it took me ages to calm down. It was as if I could feel the evil coming off them while I was awake.
This house turned out to have a VERY negative nasty atmosphere and we had nothing but bad luck in it. Glad I am no longer living there.

[quilliard]

When I was in Sacramento, the Shadow Men came to me.

Three in total.

There was one night that he came alone, when I yelled a silent scream at him and he ran.

Shadow people are just tricks, it is people staring at there shadows that can project. It is not that scary, what is a shadow going to do? Disappear in the dark? Not exist in the light. Not that scary, think about it.

I caught mine and he is finished. And his two cronies. BUSTED.

I know his real face. I know his real name. I know his moniker. He has no game. I know where he hangs out.

I have sent my "Friends" to discuss his behavior. You know my "imaginary friends". And who cares he is just a fading shadow, now isn't he.

Funny how it all comes together when you stop blaming the ones that love you, isn't it. Even when they are not perfect.

He can't hide from Lucifer's Angel.

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

P.S. The clock is ticking. 11/02/2011

Have a great day full of love and hope as that is my wish for all.

Shock the Karma.

[dunadan]

I don't know if this is related but when I was about nine years old I had the most horrible nightmare (i'd never had any nightmares before certainly not any I remember) and it happened shortly after we moved to a new house. I woke up one night screaming and crying as I was terrified by a nightmare i'd just had and all I can remember from this nightmare are lots of black,very thin humanoid type "things" that I just knew were coming after me and I had to get away from them or something very awful was going to happen to me. When I was awake right after this nightmare I was still terrified as I felt that these "things" were still coming after me and it took me ages to calm down. It was as if I could feel the evil coming off them while I was awake.
This house turned out to have a VERY negative nasty atmosphere and we had nothing but bad luck in it. Glad I am no longer living there.

As I have said before such entities can and do travel along certain leys and geopathic stress lines - both of which can 'pool' in certain properties and places...it can be healed, yet sometimes one just hass to move on:)

[epiceyjahouse]

He runs off like the superhero "The Flash" in the last frame there. :eek:

Yes! It looks very much like a sprinter getting out of the blocks. Left leg straight, body leaning heavily forward and right arm pointing backwards/upwards.
Could this ghost have been a sprinter when he/she was alive? :)

[cinder_darkskys]

Video Description: First known video of a Shad­ow Man, from the res­i­dence of our wit­ness.

http://vids.myspace.com/index.cfm?fuseaction=vids.individual&videoid=102756452

darn good fine this subject is VIP

The young lady still but a child is a shaman an, Is 1st nations, highly symbolic of the times.

notice her how genital in her nature she is.

Some might think this is bad sprites the hood man and the hat man but there really don't seem to be. there minions of Death Hades. < hades is a ascriptive symbol of our time. For the 1st man effected by the FORCE shell we say for now. Be the force is something the whole world can under stand.

You are missing at least 1 other of these helpers of death < believe is the right way of say it.

this is the female shadow figged who appears with a knife, Highly relative to smokers. Her hair is often long flowing, as she normally floating in cig's smoke.

These are SMOKE magic symbols an not to be trusted. to read smoke magic you need much smoke over time, and it still cant be trusted. the cloud never stop, a big difference.

These are I believe what are called omens of death.

http://forum.davidicke.com/picture.php?albumid=696&pictureid=6840

The dude him self. I guess those people who are hold 50 of my police offices should realest them. Unharmed rather quickly.

this one is one of the ones. who waits for bin laddin and his merry band, after his death.

lol wouldn't you just love to be some one like Bin laddin. and have this waiting for you, to re pay all the kindness he an people like him have shown, to other peoples, of the world.

Now the The Shadow man called the hat man. this is Jewish symbol, It a very primal force. If your current with my imagery, you seen an have the full holly lands set I have displace.

If you notice the man coming from the Metron < house of god, one of them. )
http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/cinder_darkskys/Skys%20at-David%20Ickes-com/Skys%20at-David%20Icke%20Egypt/africa-mideast-001gm.jpg

fallow the lighting down the one's arm's Highlighted is the main hat man, in lighting.
If you will look to the far left and right of that image U will see the main hat man. Will notice the SPHINX shape with the hat man, in the body, It only important to the high priest of the religions of world, symbolize the builders of the start point for this space on earth, to the south East in Africa is another major site.

if you read my statements U see I id the JEWISH people as the 1st, of this sector of religion.It also means the Jewish people may have builder's the pyramid's. It would also make more sense why Egypt of old would brought back the Jewish people build the newer pyramids. Especial if Egyptians thought the Jewish peoples build the 1st one

It Why Jewish men ware there Black hats, it show this force Jewish people are aware of his presence. I believe they hold this force in very high regard.

The Hooded Shadow man this one i think is a special. I don't know a lot about him other then he is a more west view of the Hat man. More like a Judge presents.
http://i919.photobucket.com/albums/ad33/cinder_darkskys/Skys%20at-David%20Ickes-com/Skys%20at-David%20Icke%20The%201st%20nations%20Aboriginal/canada-bc01bn-mtwhilser-001sd.jpg
Look at Anubis ears The hood man is the ears of Death him self, I think this is a 1st run Image An is fully uncoded for this is 1 Glyph the Chains Glyphs. the chains are fully done, an the think the title of of the image is miss labeled I think thats Vancouver BC.

When studding the White Buffalo, I fine these Force's as the same type of primal force as the hat man <A>. Generally there to 1 side or another to Death < which is or can be seen as Anubis or a Hades symbols

High forms held in shamanic believe systems.

They all relate to one another world wide.

I hope my post help your topic Size Be safe an GB

Your friend Skys

PeaceLovesAll

[ragnarok]

http://i186.photobucket.com/albums/x171/CJOKUSAP/1301478409994.jpg

Is that one stood on the path in the background, or is he just a regular ghosty?

[cinder_darkskys]

Yes ; I do agree a, man should know his limitations,
But when those limitations are governed by mine set.
An not reality, then what are a mans limitations

this subject matter is important because of the very limited information on these force's which are day to day in each person live.

These force's are directly connected to the spiritual, this is RELIGION.

You cant fine something you don't under stand.

So there a level of under standing we as a peoples of Earth in the try star system of Solo are missing.

A conception ; we call heaven and and what was hell or, the after life. what ever you want to call it. Death. an the perception of life with death.

For some it's how have we are been used or, have we been used. For some placing there heads in the ground with there hand in prey

What is it, can it be defined. What are the actual parameters of this realm. what is E+T connection to this realm is there an E+T connection, or are these things from Earth.

Size these Glyphs I show are part of a chain set I put them up to help you an every one.

don't be afraid of re-mastering your work. based on new information.

COPYRIGHT your work.....

keep in mind its all test ; Keep a question in mind when doing your art works.

Skys

[livelonglivestrong]

I can't see the video

[size_of_light]

I can't see the video

Go here:

http://www.google.com.au/#hl=en&source=hp&q=jc+johnson+shadow+man&meta=&aq=f&aqi=&aql=&oq=&gs_rfai=&fp=1&bav=on.2,or.r_gc.r_pw.&cad=b

...and click on the first search result link.

[livelonglivestrong]

Thanks buddy that was an alright video, was more interested in what the girl was saying than owt else, but thats still a nice vid. Can these vids not be easily faked these days though?

[size_of_light]

Can these vids not be easily faked these days though?

That one certainly wouldn't be hard to fake, though that doesn't necessarily mean it was, of course.

This JC Johnson character is an interesting one.

Perhaps destinymoon will return to the forum at some point and share her stories about him with us at greater length...

[jimj_wpg]

It looks faked because typically shadow men don't have that well defined faces. They're usually all or partially "BLACKER than BLACK".

[dunadan]

It looks faked because typically shadow men don't have that well defined faces. They're usually all or partially "BLACKER than BLACK".

+1

Its hard to explain, yet there were not real features, yet ones brain wants to fill in the gaps, only when the entity disappeared in front of me did I snap to attention.....all very strange.

[geek_pl]

2-3 years ago I was trying to jump from my body to astral and one night I opened my eyes during parylysis -laying on my back, just eyes could move around room. Next to me on my chair was sitting some shadow person. I looked on "him?". He looked on me. I send my energy of love to him to say "It's OK." but he suddenly got closer and started to slap me on my face I think(or maybe he was doing sth with my chakras?).
This was kinda scary so my heart started to beat fast. Next I wanted to move my fingers and I woke up from this dream or OOBE(I suppose it was OOBE cause my dreams are not so REAL). Finally I "woke up" and everything was identical(even rapid heartbeat) except shadow person who disappeared, plus (if my memory doesn't trick me) everything in room during "sleep/OOBE" was brighter...

I told about "shadow person" to my mom & she told me that once she had similar experience but with 1 or 3 shadow persons sitting on her chest and choking her 'during sleep/dream?' She also was frightened and woke up with rapid heartbeat and couldn't slept that night... I started to connect this things because my mom has wellness problems... I also have some...strange...

In my coulture there is "bane" maybe this is a astral creature. Page about bane from Wikipedia in my language translated to English:
<==== WIKI INFO TRANSLATED TO ENG
Bane, also called phantom (hence the saying of a dream nightmare, the God of faith) - in essence half-demonic Slavic beliefs, the soul of a man living or deceased, who tired of sleeping at night, sucking blood from them.

According to popular applications nightmares stayed souls of sinful women, who have been wronged souls of people who died without confession, the damned. Nightmares they tended to be the seventh daughter of a marriage or a person who at the baptism rotate the name, but "bane" can also touch people who have grown together over the eyes, eyebrows, or multicolored eyes. There are beliefs (among others. In central Poland), that is the bane of the death of such person, with whom on his deathbed (according to other options at his baptism), anyone refusing to Angelic salutation, and slip of the tongue "bane Mary"(in my language it's similar) instead of the "Hail Mary".

Bane of high-imagined as a woman with unnaturally long legs and a transparent body. It can be seen in light of the moon, when its rays pass through the body of the bane. Applications ascribe its ability to open each lock. She could also vary in different animals: a cat, pine marten, a frog, a mouse, as well as inanimate objects, such as straw or needle.

Bane feeds on blood. Back to the Court a person is sleeping on his chest, knees, chest presses and causes blood to the head blow. In this way the breath slowly deprives his victim. Sleep blood flowing nose, incised or toothed vein on his temple and neck, and sucks. The victim loses the bane of strength and energy, which later recovered in a natural way. Heavily starved nightmare nevertheless able to kill their prey.

Syta nightmare goes to the stables, where he chooses the horse, rides it bareback, and goes on a mad gallop, taking care to always be illuminated by the rays of the moon. Long legs round the cheese steed, controls him, beating him in the neck and the nostrils. When the horse slows down, turns and leaves the frightened animal to his place in the stables. Some of the bane of livestock were tired and came down on them swine.

A man tormented by the scourge of groans, sweat and throw themselves on the bed. So, if Slav woke up in the morning with a feeling that something gniotło him all night in the chest, often blamed for the menace it is. This myth is probably rooted in the phenomenon of sleep paralysis.

When a person is attacked by the scourge of waking up, it immediately ran away. To help sleeping which bothers a nightmare, it was necessary to approach with a bottle in his right hand and left hand grab the sleeping head to feet, then cover the dish with his hand and jam. Bottle from the nightmare was to drown caught or thrown on the fire. In the water a long time to hear the whimper like a little child kwilenia, in the fire, as it breaks the glass can be heard screeching scalded incubus which, together with the smoke as a black stripe passes chimney.

Effective method of protection against the nightmare was the change in sleeping position. We had to lie in the bed opposite, his head at the foot of the bed on his back or not. Additionally, you can sleep with your legs crossed. Way to secure the stable was the bane of adjudication over the door or on the door killed magpies.
<==== END WIKI INFO

This shadow man looked like human in black smoke.

[dunadan]

2-3 years ago I was trying to jump from my body to astral and one night I opened my eyes during parylysis -laying on my back, just eyes could move around room. Next to me on my chair was sitting some shadow person. I looked on "him?". He looked on me. I send my energy of love to him to say "It's OK." but he suddenly got closer and started to slap me on my face I think(or maybe he was doing sth with my chakras?).
This was kinda scary so my heart started to beat fast. Next I wanted to move my fingers and I woke up from this dream or OOBE(I suppose it was OOBE cause my dreams are not so REAL). Finally I "woke up" and everything was identical(even rapid heartbeat) except shadow person who disappeared, plus (if my memory doesn't trick me) everything in room during "sleep/OOBE" was brighter...

I told about "shadow person" to my mom & she told me that once she had similar experience but with 1 or 3 shadow persons sitting on her chest and choking her 'during sleep/dream?' She also was frightened and woke up with rapid heartbeat and couldn't slept that night... I started to connect this things because my mom has wellness problems... I also has some...strange...

In my coulture there is "bane" maybe this is a astral creature. Page about bane from Wikipedia in my language translated to English:
<==== WIKI INFO TRANSLATED TO ENG
Bane, also called phantom (hence the saying of a dream nightmare, the God of faith) - in essence half-demonic Slavic beliefs, the soul of a man living or deceased, who tired of sleeping at night, sucking blood from them.

According to popular applications nightmares stayed souls of sinful women, who have been wronged souls of people who died without confession, the damned. Nightmares they tended to be the seventh daughter of a marriage or a person who at the baptism rotate the name, but "bane" can also touch people who have grown together over the eyes, eyebrows, or multicolored eyes. There are beliefs (among others. In central Poland), that is the bane of the death of such person, with whom on his deathbed (according to other options at his baptism), anyone refusing to Angelic salutation, and slip of the tongue "bane Mary"(in my language it's similar) instead of the "Hail Mary".

Bane of high-imagined as a woman with unnaturally long legs and a transparent body. It can be seen in light of the moon, when its rays pass through the body of the bane. Applications ascribe its ability to open each lock. She could also vary in different animals: a cat, pine marten, a frog, a mouse, as well as inanimate objects, such as straw or needle.

Bane feeds on blood. Back to the Court a person is sleeping on his chest, knees, chest presses and causes blood to the head blow. In this way the breath slowly deprives his victim. Sleep blood flowing nose, incised or toothed vein on his temple and neck, and sucks. The victim loses the bane of strength and energy, which later recovered in a natural way. Heavily starved nightmare nevertheless able to kill their prey.

Syta nightmare goes to the stables, where he chooses the horse, rides it bareback, and goes on a mad gallop, taking care to always be illuminated by the rays of the moon. Long legs round the cheese steed, controls him, beating him in the neck and the nostrils. When the horse slows down, turns and leaves the frightened animal to his place in the stables. Some of the bane of livestock were tired and came down on them swine.

A man tormented by the scourge of groans, sweat and throw themselves on the bed. So, if Slav woke up in the morning with a feeling that something gniotło him all night in the chest, often blamed for the menace it is. This myth is probably rooted in the phenomenon of sleep paralysis.

When a person is attacked by the scourge of waking up, it immediately ran away. To help sleeping which bothers a nightmare, it was necessary to approach with a bottle in his right hand and left hand grab the sleeping head to feet, then cover the dish with his hand and jam. Bottle from the nightmare was to drown caught or thrown on the fire. In the water a long time to hear the whimper like a little child kwilenia, in the fire, as it breaks the glass can be heard screeching scalded incubus which, together with the smoke as a black stripe passes chimney.

Effective method of protection against the nightmare was the change in sleeping position. We had to lie in the bed opposite, his head at the foot of the bed on his back or not. Additionally, you can sleep with your legs crossed. Way to secure the stable was the bane of adjudication over the door or on the door killed magpies.
<==== END WIKI INFO

This shadow man looked like human in black smoke.

Hi,

Yes the phrase 'nighmare' is used here (UK) too and is basically a deamon/soul of a 'witch' (my view not a which but a soul that is not of the light) one which sits on the chest, sucks energy from humans.....in German folk lore an Alp. Both my partner and I have had such experiences as well as the classic 'alien abduction' scenario in the night.

Do we have answers? No, not yet. We believe that they are all linked, could be architypal, real, government plots, otherwordly - probably all of those things.

I for one would be very careful/mindful of leaving ones body and make sure, when practising certain techniques to protect yourself accordingly...

Stay safe.

Dunadan:)