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lynfowars
22-04-2010, 10:25 AM
My apols if this has been posted already.

Heads-up to the PrisonPlanet Forum for the story

This is a shocker; first read, it looks like the journo' is having a go at Ventura.. but he is admitting he was there (Ground Zero, 9-11) and heard cops saying WTC7 was about to be brought down in a pre-arranged controlled demolition with Silverstein and the Insurance Companies' blessing!!!

Woooooot!!!!????

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http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=167734.msg997522#msg997522



Jeffrey Scott Shapiro of FOXNEWS EXPOSES KEY BUILDING 7 EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/21/jeffrey-scott-shapiro-jesse-venture-book-lies-truthers-ground-zero-sept-shame/

Shame On Jesse Ventura!

By Jeffrey Scott Shapiro

- FOXNews.com

The former Minnesota governor has discredited himself, and dishonored and defamed his country by promoting the mistaken view that our government was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks.

Jesse Ventura should be ashamed of himself and embarrassed.

The former Minnesota governor recently lent his political credentials to the discredited 9/11 “Truther” movement by alleging that the Sept. 11 attacks were either planned or permitted by the United States government.

This recent admission was only a small part of Ventura’s new book, “American Conspiracies: Lies, Lies and More Lies the Government Tells Us,” which echoes a revisionist account of American history that holds the Bush administration responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks by implying that the Bush administration either knew about the attacks, did nothing to stop them or actually participated in them.

During a March 10 interview with Barbara Walters on “The View,” Ventura implied the Bush/Cheney administration used 9/11 as a pretense to start the Iraq War under false pretenses. Ventura apparently developed this theory after former Kennedy/Johnson adviser Robert McNamara visited him at Harvard and allegedly admitted to him that the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which escalated the Vietnam War, never actually happened.

Perhaps what Ventura is missing is that there is probably more incontrovertible evidence and more witnesses who have already established what happened on Sept. 11, 2001 than most major historical events. To dispute the conventional historical account is intellectually dishonest and nonsensical.

I know this because I was working as a journalist for Gannett News at Ground Zero that day, and I remember very clearly what I saw and heard.

Although I arrived at Ground Zero shortly after the Twin Towers fell, I was in the danger zone created by Building 7 from the moment it collapsed in the afternoon, an event that is one of the key cornerstones of the 9/11 conspiracy theory.

Governor Ventura and many 9/11 “Truthers” allege that government explosives caused the afternoon collapse of Building 7. This is false. I know this because I remember watching all 47 stories of Building 7 suddenly and silently crumble before my eyes.

Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building – since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall.

A controlled demolition would have minimized the damage caused by the building’s imminent collapse and potentially save lives. Many law enforcement personnel, firefighters and other journalists were aware of this possible option. There was no secret. There was no conspiracy.

While I was talking with a fellow reporter and several NYPD officers, Building 7 suddenly collapsed, and before it hit the ground, not a single sound emanated from the tower area. There were no explosives; I would have heard them. In fact, I remember that in those few seconds, as the building sank to the ground that I was stunned by how quiet it was.

The myth that Building 7 was blown up by the U.S. government is false – and so is the broader theory that our government was somehow involved in the 9/11 attacks. I know this because I was one of the few reporters who investigated 9/11 conspiracy theories and urban legends on location in the immediate aftermath of the tragedy.

In October 2001, I reported on a story for Gannett newspaper, The Journal News, that the FBI Joint Terrorist Task Force was investigating a Brooklyn high school student for predicting the collapse of the World Trade Center five days before it happened.

To my surprise, the NYC Board of Education confirmed the story on the record and the FBI confirmed there had been rumors circulating in the New York City Arab-American community about a possible attack on Manhattan. My story was immediately confirmed by Newsweek Senior Editor Jonathan Alter, and after I penned a follow up in The Washington Times magazine, “Insight,” I was interviewed by Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly on “The O’Reilly Factor.”

My investigation into 9/11 conspiracy theories and urban legends led me to interview both American and Israeli intelligence officials as well as representatives of the Afghan Northern Alliance, FBI, NYPD and sources within the Muslim community of New York City.

Although I found trace evidence that vague rumors circulated within the Arab-American community that “something was going to happen” in “lower downtown Manhattan” on Sept. 11, I found no evidence of any conspiracy other than the one hatched by Al Qaeda that was later confirmed by the 9/11 Commission.

Since Al Qaeda once operated out of the Alkifah Refugee Center on Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn and had many low level operatives working in the NYC area, it did not surprise me that rumors of their plan had leaked within the Arab-American community of New York. Many similar rumors and reports occur frequently, however, and so I have never faulted the Arab-American community or our government for not acting upon them.

In no instance did I ever once talk to one source who even hinted the American government had any foreknowledge or involvement in the Sept. 11 attacks. As an investigative reporter who survived the collapse of Building 7 and doggedly investigated 9/11 conspiracy theories in the wake of the attack, I am convinced the 9/11 “Truther” movement is nothing more than a paranoid, delusional pack of lies.

I was there.

I know what happened, and there is no single credible piece of evidence that implicates the United States of America in the Sept. 11 attacks. Governor Ventura has discredited himself, and dishonored and defamed his country by promoting these intellectually dishonest views. He should be ashamed of himself.

Jeffrey Scott Shapiro is a former Washington, D.C. prosecutor and investigative reporter who covered the Sept. 11 attacks on location. To read his Washington Times/Insight piece, “Stories Prior Knowledge of 9/11 More Than Urban Legend,” click here. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_37_18/ai_92589583/

picha
22-04-2010, 10:29 AM
My apols if this has been posted already.

Heads-up to the PrisonPlanet Forum for the story

This is a shocker; first read, it looks like the journo' is having a go at Ventura.. but he is admitting he was there (Ground Zero, 9-11) and heard cops saying WTC7 was about to be brought down in a pre-arranged controlled demolition with Silverstein and the Insurance Companies' blessing!!!

Woooooot!!!!????

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http://forum.prisonplanet.com/index.php?topic=167734.msg997522#msg997522



Jeffrey Scott Shapiro of FOXNEWS EXPOSES KEY BUILDING 7 EVIDENCE!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/21/jeffrey-scott-shapiro-jesse-venture-book-lies-truthers-ground-zero-sept-shame/

Shame On Jesse Ventura!

By Jeffrey Scott Shapiro

- FOXNews.com

The former Minnesota governor has discredited himself, and dishonored and defamed his country by promoting the mistaken view that our government was involved in the Sept. 11 attacks.

Jesse Ventura should be ashamed of himself and embarrassed.

The former Minnesota governor recently lent his political credentials to the discredited 9/11 “Truther” movement by alleging that the Sept. 11 attacks were either planned or permitted by the United States government.

This recent admission was only a small part of Ventura’s new book, “American Conspiracies: Lies, Lies and More Lies the Government Tells Us,” which echoes a revisionist account of American history that holds the Bush administration responsible for the Sept. 11 attacks by implying that the Bush administration either knew about the attacks, did nothing to stop them or actually participated in them.

During a March 10 interview with Barbara Walters on “The View,” Ventura implied the Bush/Cheney administration used 9/11 as a pretense to start the Iraq War under false pretenses. Ventura apparently developed this theory after former Kennedy/Johnson adviser Robert McNamara visited him at Harvard and allegedly admitted to him that the Gulf of Tonkin incident, which escalated the Vietnam War, never actually happened.

Perhaps what Ventura is missing is that there is probably more incontrovertible evidence and more witnesses who have already established what happened on Sept. 11, 2001 than most major historical events. To dispute the conventional historical account is intellectually dishonest and nonsensical.

I know this because I was working as a journalist for Gannett News at Ground Zero that day, and I remember very clearly what I saw and heard.

Although I arrived at Ground Zero shortly after the Twin Towers fell, I was in the danger zone created by Building 7 from the moment it collapsed in the afternoon, an event that is one of the key cornerstones of the 9/11 conspiracy theory.

Governor Ventura and many 9/11 “Truthers” allege that government explosives caused the afternoon collapse of Building 7. This is false. I know this because I remember watching all 47 stories of Building 7 suddenly and silently crumble before my eyes.

Shortly before the building collapsed, several NYPD officers and Con-Edison workers told me that Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building – since its foundation was already unstable and expected to fall.

A controlled demolition would have minimized the damage caused by the building’s imminent collapse and potentially save lives. Many law enforcement personnel, firefighters and other journalists were aware of this possible option. There was no secret. There was no conspiracy.

While I was talking with a fellow reporter and several NYPD officers, Building 7 suddenly collapsed, and before it hit the ground, not a single sound emanated from the tower area. There were no explosives; I would have heard them. In fact, I remember that in those few seconds, as the building sank to the ground that I was stunned by how quiet it was.

The myth that Building 7 was blown up by the U.S. government is false – and so is the broader theory that our government was somehow involved in the 9/11 attacks. I know this because I was one of the few reporters who investigated 9/11 conspiracy theories and urban legends on location in the immediate aftermath of the tragedy.

In October 2001, I reported on a story for Gannett newspaper, The Journal News, that the FBI Joint Terrorist Task Force was investigating a Brooklyn high school student for predicting the collapse of the World Trade Center five days before it happened.

To my surprise, the NYC Board of Education confirmed the story on the record and the FBI confirmed there had been rumors circulating in the New York City Arab-American community about a possible attack on Manhattan. My story was immediately confirmed by Newsweek Senior Editor Jonathan Alter, and after I penned a follow up in The Washington Times magazine, “Insight,” I was interviewed by Fox News’ Bill O’Reilly on “The O’Reilly Factor.”

My investigation into 9/11 conspiracy theories and urban legends led me to interview both American and Israeli intelligence officials as well as representatives of the Afghan Northern Alliance, FBI, NYPD and sources within the Muslim community of New York City.

Although I found trace evidence that vague rumors circulated within the Arab-American community that “something was going to happen” in “lower downtown Manhattan” on Sept. 11, I found no evidence of any conspiracy other than the one hatched by Al Qaeda that was later confirmed by the 9/11 Commission.

Since Al Qaeda once operated out of the Alkifah Refugee Center on Atlantic Avenue in Brooklyn and had many low level operatives working in the NYC area, it did not surprise me that rumors of their plan had leaked within the Arab-American community of New York. Many similar rumors and reports occur frequently, however, and so I have never faulted the Arab-American community or our government for not acting upon them.

In no instance did I ever once talk to one source who even hinted the American government had any foreknowledge or involvement in the Sept. 11 attacks. As an investigative reporter who survived the collapse of Building 7 and doggedly investigated 9/11 conspiracy theories in the wake of the attack, I am convinced the 9/11 “Truther” movement is nothing more than a paranoid, delusional pack of lies.

I was there.

I know what happened, and there is no single credible piece of evidence that implicates the United States of America in the Sept. 11 attacks. Governor Ventura has discredited himself, and dishonored and defamed his country by promoting these intellectually dishonest views. He should be ashamed of himself.

Jeffrey Scott Shapiro is a former Washington, D.C. prosecutor and investigative reporter who covered the Sept. 11 attacks on location. To read his Washington Times/Insight piece, “Stories Prior Knowledge of 9/11 More Than Urban Legend,” click here. http://findarticles.com/p/articles/mi_m1571/is_37_18/ai_92589583/

To think bastard cunt politicians like that liam fox are still banging on about 9/11 as though the official version is truel.

anthony1965
22-04-2010, 10:41 AM
Jeffrey Scott Shapiro is the author of this article.

What else has he been writing recently?

Ah yes...

The Bush Restoration Project :eek:

I recommend holding a paper bag when you read this...

http://www.slate.com/id/2251517/

The Bush Restoration Project
Jeffrey Scott Shapiro is on a mission to rehabilitate the former president's reputation. :eek:
By Jordan Michael Smith
Posted Wednesday, April 21, 2010, at 3:01 PM ET

Jeffrey Scott Shapiro talks about George W. Bush the way Buddhists talk about the Dalai Lama. "He stands for truth, compassion and freedom," he says. "Bush instinctively sees the global picture that every living person has the right to be free." It's hardly surprising, then, that Shapiro founded Honor Freedom, an organization devoted to restoring Bush's reputation. And Shapiro may actually succeed—especially since Bush, too, will be working on the same project, if not the same organization.

On its Web site, Honor Freedom proclaims its three-part mission: "UNITE BUSH SUPPORTERS by building a national network" of supporters; "CORRECT THE HISTORICAL RECORD by dispelling fallacies about President Bush"; and "TEACH AMERICA the truth about the Bush foreign policy doctrine" (all capitalization in original). Through a nationwide public education program consisting of op-eds, media appearances, and free public seminars, the nonprofit group intends to teach Americans that George W. Bush was actually a great president and an even better man.

Honor Freedom is independent of the George W. Bush Presidential Center, which consists of the official Bush library and foundation. It has no ties to Bush, and a spokeswoman at the foundation says she's never heard of Shapiro's group. Presidential libraries and related foundations may serve to burnish their namesakes' reputations, but they are "not as crass or overt as this," says H.W. Brands, who has written biographies of Andrew Jackson, Teddy Roosevelt and FDR.

Shapiro, for his part, has written that "relying on a passive institute such as a presidential library and waiting for people to learn the truth on their own will not be sufficient in this unique case." Having launched his project in January on Strategy Room, Fox News' online show, Shapiro has yet to focus on fundraising. But he has organizers in eight states—and a representative in Australia!—and has recruited Andrew Breitbart as communications director and Bush's former deputy assistant Brad Blakeman as "chief adviser."

To listen to Shapiro is to travel back in time to 2003, when present-day critics like David Frum were calling Bush "The Right Man." Even now, Shapiro's defense of the Bush administration's record in Iraq is pretty much unqualified. Bush's critics "are selfish people who don't see the value of national liberation," he says. "They are isolationists who don't care that the U.S. freed a people enslaved by fear." To charges the Bush is unintelligent, he says: "Bush is clearly very smart. And you don't need to be a genius to be president—you need good leadership skills and good instincts." To the rap that his economic record is woeful, Shapiro says that Bush was a foreign-policy president. "He dealt with the first major attack on the continental United States since 1812 and responded brilliantly. He was a great leader."


Not all conservatives are eager to return to the partisan battles of the aughts, however. "Clearly how independents voted in 2006 and 2008 was in reaction to Bush," says Republican pollster Glen Bolger. "2010 and 2012 is about the future for Republicans. They're not going to want to look back."

But Shapiro downplays past elections and polls, which put Bush's end-of-term approval rating at a record-low 22 percent. In his travels, he says, he finds that the president is very popular. "People all over the country love him."

Shapiro also claims the support of Bush, though the former president is not involved in Honor Freedom. Shapiro recently stayed for a week at the ranch of Bush's nephew, Pierce, who introduced the two. "You're doing good work," Shapiro says the former president told him. Shapiro says he regularly exchanges e-mail with Karl Rove, and Blakeman says he's had conversations with other former members of Bush's staff who are excited about Honor Freedom.

Shapiro's views of the media were shaped by experience. After covering the JonBenét Ramsey case for the Globe tabloid as a reporter, he voluntarily reported his editors to the FBI for criminal violations and testified against them in a grand jury as a key witness. Shapiro says his coverage of the Ramsey case and the Chandra Levy case led him to resent the media's abuse of the First Amendment, which "probably led to my feelings about the media lies told about President Bush." After leaving the media, Shapiro went to law school and worked for Sen. John Kerry in the 2004 presidential election—and then worked for the Bush administration as a federal prosecutor for the District of Columbia.

And though Shapiro's cause may seem unlikely, it's possible—even likely—that Bush's popularity will at least partially recover. "The surest likelihood that a president's reputation will rise after he is out of office is low approval ratings when he leaves office," says Brands. Jimmy Carter left office in 1980 viewed as a failure, but he is thought by the public to be the best living ex-president, according to a recent Rasmussen poll. One of Bush's role models, Harry Truman, was so unpopular in 1952 that he left office rather than run for reelection. Now he is often considered among the five best U.S. presidents.

Even so, it will be a long road. The Bush restoration, if it comes, may not occur in Bush's lifetime—or Shapiro's. There was zero net job creation in the first decade of the 2000s, for the first time in nearly a century. The economy is still fragile, and the wars in Afghanistan and Iraq are far from over. "No recent president has had the problems Bush has had," says Jean Edward Smith, who has written books on Ulysses S. Grant, George H. W. Bush, and FDR. "They haven't had so much to explain away."

Their methods vary, but the foremost goal and truest vocation of every ex-president is to defend his presidency. Bush is no different. Along with former President Clinton, he led the U.S. response to the earthquake in Haiti. He appeared at a "Conference on Cyber Dissidents" this week hosted by his presidential center. And he is thickening his wallet giving speeches to friendly audiences. Bush may have a harder time than any president since Carter in getting back in the good graces of the public. Then again, Carter never had a guy like Jeffrey Scott Shapiro working on his behalf.

egozero
22-04-2010, 10:44 AM
once again
lynfowars' rat like sarcasm
gets OWNT!!!!

lynfowars
22-04-2010, 10:46 AM
Think how absurd this journalists' logic is...

He admits he heard open talk from the cops and other people there that Silverstein was initiating a controlled demolition.

But... Planning and placing charges on a building of that size, would take a huge expert crew and involve a great deal of explosives... yet he wants us to believe that this invisible demolition crew, appeared by magic, and then merrily planned and planted explosives, unseen, in just a few minutes amongst all that chaos and fires?

Yeah, right!! That's so impossible it's just not credible.

This means, if what he says was indeed true, then the means to bring down that building were already planned and in-place long in advance of the actual 9-11 event. That is prior knowledge and strongly implies conspiracy.

Some have suggested the chemicals to bring down the building were likely positioned when the "lift-shaft maintenance company" did their work just prior to 9-11.


As someone said on the PP Forum, the evidence for arrests on reasonable suspicion is in. This is indeed "low hanging fruit" waiting to be picked to start the arrests and investigations proper.

Is there not one solitary New York cop got the balls to arrest Silverstein and question him? This hearsay evidence alone from (I presume) credible first-hand witnesses like this journalist, would be enough for arrest on suspicion of conspiracy anywhere else.

lynfowars
22-04-2010, 10:48 AM
once again
lynfowars' rat like sarcasm
gets OWNT!!!!

Say what? :confused:

flox
22-04-2010, 10:49 AM
If it's the case that Larry ordered the demolition as it was unstable anyway, then why were there explosives already there in the first place primed to go?

lynfowars
22-04-2010, 10:51 AM
If it's the case that Larry ordered the demolition as it was unstable anyway, then why were there explosives already there in the first place primed to go?

Exactly. At its very LEAST, that is evidence of a criminal conspiracy to defraud the insurance company.

How else can it be interpreted?

Arrest the bastard on suspicion of that, and the whole can of worms will spill on the floor.

icarus
22-04-2010, 11:07 AM
shapiro says they had discussed demolition when it suddenly collapsed anyway, "silently" in his worlds, indicating no explosives, just natural collapse

this vermin is more proof that the powers are concerned with ongoing exposure of 911

it was on fox news, that's all we kneed to know

proves the filth are worried though, that and so many sites getting knocked down currently, the really important ones that hit them hard

blueyonder2012
22-04-2010, 11:10 AM
Says it all really, and the demolition experts say that this statement is IMPOSSIBLE. It takes days, to sort out the demolition of a building of this size.

"Larry Silverstein, the property developer of One World Financial Center was on the phone with his insurance carrier to see if they would authorize the controlled demolition of the building"



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truthseeker512
22-04-2010, 11:51 AM
This story is honestly, unbelievable.

Are they that arrogant to print something like this? How stupid do they think we are?

rodin
22-04-2010, 11:59 AM
Jeffrey Scott Shapiro

Fox news guarding the hen house

http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/040924/symbolic.jpg

http://www.jewishaz.com/jewishnews/040924/symbolic.shtml

http://theinfounderground.com/forum/viewtopic.php?f=6&t=5367

silvertrowel
16-05-2010, 08:32 PM
Sorry to resurect an old thread but the link in the OP has changed.

The old link was http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/21/jeffrey-scott-shapiro-jesse-venture-book-lies-truthers-ground-zero-sept-shame/

The new link is http://www.foxnews.com/opinion/2010/04/22/jeffrey-scott-shapiro-jesse-venture-book-lies-truthers-ground-zero-sept-shame/

Please update your favorites list if necesary and any other forums you may have seen this discussed on.
I think it may one day be important to someone and I wanted to avoid confusion.

Thank you.