When will the Bible be seen for what it is?

[nickos]

on my second admission to the psych ward i found my psychosis in a book dating back to 1947.the author is long gone but i think he may have known that he was dealing with the GENUINE(most likely)messiah of the century.BECAUSE the symptomatology is identical to my own, it makes me think Adam is resurrected EVERY SINGLE CENTURY!the name that the author(an american psychiatrist,eric berne(1910-1970))gives his 'king of the world' patient is 'cary fayton'. so, i look like jesus, had similar experiences with 3 women(the Fates/the Sirens/Medusa and her band of preistess/MARY OF MAGDALIN and two of her friends???),i was, or seemed to be, anointed by either a 'star of wonder' OR "Zeus' lightnig bolt".or was it the same 'shower of gold' that perseus was "born under"?perseus was known as the 'son of zeus'.he later became king of all greece.

the Bible has put paid to there EVER being another messiah-everytime there has been a resurrection they have been persecuted.so what is the point of the bible?the REASON every messiah since jesus has failed to be recognized as a messiah is down to the bible's stories.

i was atheist until i was blinded by a flash of light.when THAT happened(followed by a number of shooting stars)i began to look for OTHER messiahs throughout time, and found quite a few!genghis khan,robin hood,attila,lancalot etc etc

does anybody actually AGREE that the bible was READABLY WRITTEN?

[clachan]

Hi Nickos,
We are just human beings,you and i are no different to the rest of humanity.

I have responded to your post because you remind me of a so called friend i had years ago.He believed he was Jesus,the special one.I tryed my best to ground him but his ego soared out of control untill he was put on a coctail of drugs and locked up in a psychiatric hospital.

All i can say to you is to question what you believe and why you believe it every day,what is it that you can add to the teachings of Christ ? If there is nothing to add then you are not the messiah.

Pray everyday to Christ that you may see clearly and without delusion.

I hope you dont take any offence from me,but i think Im quite a bit older than you and have seen a lot of people suffer because there wasn,t anyone there for them to rebound off of.

"Be still and know that Iam God"

[jesusistruth]

You're fucking awesome man. :up:

:)

[michael christopher]

When every last Christian has expired. BTW, who the hell are you to criticize the Bible when your own psychosis can barely be considered any better?

How can people who spout one form of non-sense attack people who spout another?

Jesus Christ. Your bullshit is just as bad as the bullshit of fundamentalist Christians. Holy fuck, the hypocrisy is just mind-numbingly ridiculous. If you need a messiah, you are a pathetic waste of flesh. Find some way to teleport yourself back to the dark ages where people who need saviors belong.

[nectars]

It depends on what you mean by "readable". The bibles not a literal historical truth, there is(not was) only one Adam who is here now, just as is Christ and just as you are now bearing witness to your Father.

The Bible is a symbolic allegory which when understood becomes far more than Christianity would ever believe it to be.

To keep random the following is from jesusistruth's sig: "As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." - Mat 13:40-42

What do you make of this?

Edit: In case anyone brings it up I could have used more accurate translations of the verse but it doesn't change what it means.

[orlibonurb]

When every last Christian has expired. BTW, who the hell are you to criticize the Bible when your own psychosis can barely be considered any better?

How can people who spout one form of non-sense attack people who spout another?

Jesus Christ. Your bullshit is just as bad as the bullshit of fundamentalist Christians. Holy fuck, the hypocrisy is just mind-numbingly ridiculous. If you need a messiah, you are a pathetic waste of flesh. Find some way to teleport yourself back to the dark ages where people who need saviors belong.

You would still be living in the dark ages if it wasn't for Christians and the Word of God.

The second Roman Inquisition is coming thou, pretty sure you'll enjoy it.


Hint #1,

Revelation {13:15} And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. {13:16} And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: {13:17} And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Hint #2,

Revelation {20:4} And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

[nectars]

Another for examination courtesy of our local fundamentalist.

2 Timothy {4:3} For the time will come when they will not endure sound doctrine; but after their own lusts shall they heap to themselves teachers, having itching ears; {4:4} And they shall turn away [their] ears from the truth, and shall be turned unto fables.

Meant to say, the Bible didn't and has never caused a single death or any thing else; idiotic and confused humans who misunderstood the Bible(and other faiths books) did though.

[orlibonurb]

Where in all our history can you find a war caused by "confused and idiotic humans misunderstanding the Bible" ??

As for "other faith books", well - there's the Word of God (Bible) and "spiritual" books.

"Faith books" as you call them are just that, the Word of God is what it is, the Word of God - and He has a brilliant (to say the least) plan for your life by the way.

[michael christopher]

Where in all our history can you find a war caused by "confused and idiotic humans misunderstanding the Bible" ??

God commands the Israelites to murder entire nations, including their women, children and livestock. If you continue to deny this then you are one of the biggest morons on the face of the planet. It's right in your stupid Bible. Are you so pathetically stupid that you really think God is saying something other than that?

[orlibonurb]

God commands the Israelites to murder entire nations, including their women, children and livestock. If you continue to deny this then you are one of the biggest morons on the face of the planet. It's right in your stupid Bible. Are you so pathetically stupid that you really think God is saying something other than that?


What does that have to do with "misunderstanding the Bible" ?

[tannah]

It depends on what you mean by "readable". The bibles not a literal historical truth, there is(not was) only one Adam who is here now, just as is Christ and just as you are now bearing witness to your Father.

The Bible is a symbolic allegory which when understood becomes far more than Christianity would ever believe it to be.

To keep random the following is from jesusistruth's sig: "As the weeds are pulled up and burned in the fire, so it will be at the end of the age. The Son of Man will send out his angels, and they will weed out of his kingdom everything that causes sin and all who do evil. They will throw them into the fiery furnace, where there will be weeping and gnashing of teeth." - Mat 13:40-42

What do you make of this?



The idea of this so called hell is very pathetic. The idea that Mr Jones three doors down, will suffer eternal damnation at the hands of our Creator is SICK. Anyone that can go along with this is seriously fucked up.

[orlibonurb]

Why is it "very pathetic" ?

"because I think so" doesn't count by the way.

[michael christopher]

The idea of this so called hell is very pathetic. The idea that Mr Jones three doors down, will suffer eternal damnation at the hands of our Creator is SICK. Anyone that can go along with this is seriously fucked up.

You can't explain to an insane person why he or she is insane. You can't explain to a Nazi why it's wrong to hate Jews. You can't explain to a Christian why it's wrong to hate non-Christians.

They just do it. It's their function. They've given themselves over to the spirit. The more you try to save them, the farther away they get. You might as well put on the devil mask and have some fun, you're likely to win more converts that way.

[orlibonurb]

No Christian hates a non-Christian. It's quite the opposite, your hate in this forum is very blatant (same goes for tannah).

I don't know you, yet I am your friend to come here and tell you the truth (I know how important it is for all of us to hear the gospel). If you can handle it or not it is up to you, I already know most won't handle it - you are just one more, like you there are many.

From your posts, you can barely handle a though situation, having in count all the ad-hominems you use ("F" bombs left and right) - strong signal that you aren't whom you want people to think you are.

[michael christopher]

No Christian hates a non-Christian.

You aren't really an authority, since I don't think you know what the proper definition of hate is.

It's quite the opposite, your hate in this forum is very blatant (same goes for tannah).

You are one of the most hateful pieces of garbage I have ever run across. For you to criticize someone else for being hateful is nothing short of amusing.

I don't know you, yet I am your friend to come here and tell you the truth (I know how important it is for all of us to hear the gospel). If you can handle it or not it is up to you.

You're my friend? Don't make me laugh. You're human trash. Yeah, I hate people like you. Nothing more than slaving hypocrites, sucking off a god of darkness. You're pathetic. So are all of the idiots who think you know what you're talking about.

[orlibonurb]

Exactly as I said (reply #14).

Then again, I just find it interesting, because in the end - it's not to me whom you will have to answer to,

1 John {3:15} Whosoever hateth his brother is a murderer: and ye know that no murderer hath eternal life abiding in him.


Exodus {20:13} Thou shalt not kill.


and you mock what God did for you at the cross ? Up to you.


1 Corinthians {6:9} Know ye not that the unrighteous shall not inherit the kingdom of God? Be not deceived: neither fornicators, nor idolaters, nor adulterers, nor effeminate, nor abusers of themselves with mankind, {6:10} Nor thieves, nor covetous, nor drunkards, nor revilers, nor extortioners, shall inherit the kingdom of God. {6:11} And such were some of you: but ye are washed, but ye are sanctified, but ye are justified in the name of the Lord Jesus, and by the Spirit of our God.

[tannah]

Why is it "very pathetic" ?

"because I think so" doesn't count by the way.

It's pathetic because even a lowly spirit like me can see how God can peel away every layer and reach into a person's heart and help them understand.

There was a good tv programme on the other day called "from riches to homeless". Celebrities gave up their lavish lifestyle in order to live homeless and on the streets of London for a week. During the program one of the celebrities meets a King's Cross prostitute, used and abused for years. Her spirit looked defeated, having to give her body just to survive. Her pain and desolute demeanour made me cry. That woman has a lot of loving in store for her, whilst idiots like you will simply see her as hell bound. Yes, you and what you think is a message from God are pathetic.

So you don't have a clue. But let me ask you Orl, why do you trust the council of Nicea, but regard these same people as Babylon at the same time.

[nectars]

Where in all our history can you find a war caused by "confused and idiotic humans misunderstanding the Bible" ??

Where cant you where Christianity is involved. Your one of them btw.

[QUOTE=orlibonurb;1058818640]As for "other faith books", well - there's the Word of God (Bible) and "spiritual" books.

"Faith books" as you call them are just that, the Word of God is what it is, the Word of God - and He has a brilliant (to say the least) plan for your life by the way.

That just your oppinion, nothing more. Dont knock it because you dislike the flavour, just try something else that you do like.

God commands the Israelites to murder entire nations, including their women, children and livestock. If you continue to deny this then you are one of the biggest morons on the face of the planet. It's right in your stupid Bible. Are you so pathetically stupid that you really think God is saying something other than that?

Certainly not siding with orli but this is nonsense. Human beings are enabled through application of certain principles the ability to do as the wish though Christ. Human beings are the Tree of Knowledge -the knowledge of good and evil. People being too confused to understand a book is of their own doing through misidentification with the nature of the words as being literal, not symbolic and of the nature of their Self and its relationship to the One True Living God.

[michael christopher]

Certainly not siding with orli but this is nonsense. Human beings are enabled through application of certain principles the ability to do as the wish though Christ.

Bull. Shit. Christ is not real.

Human beings are the Tree of Knowledge -the knowledge of good and evil. People being too confused to understand a book is of their own doing through misidentification with the nature of the words as being literal, not symbolic and of the nature of their Self and its relationship to the One True Living God.

Uh, sorry, but there is no "esoteric" way to interpret "Go forth and kill all within this nation, and leave not a child left standing." That was meant to be so metaphorical, I'm sure. Or when that guy runs a pregnant woman through with a spear because she bred with an outside, boy, what a strange metaphor that one is. I'm sure it wasn't meant to be taken literally though. It's not like the Bible is full of tons of commands of how to violently murder apostates. Those are all just spiritual metaphors, which people misunderstand. :rolleyes:

Christianity is bullshit. Jesus Christ never existed. The Bible is pure evil.

[orlibonurb]

That woman has a lot of loving in store for her, whilst idiots like you will simply see her as hell bound.

Sure, there are many people with lot's of love in store. Love is something common, in fact, you can tell God is love just due to it's abundance.

Be not deceived thou, there's not a single "good person" on the face of this planet. I'm comparing her with the Most Holy, Righteous & Perfect God. The true and living God.

Romans {3:11} There is none that understandeth, there is none that seeketh after God. {3:12} They are all gone out of the way, they are together become unprofitable; there is none that doeth good, no, not one.


The Council of Nicea has nothing to do with the Word of God. We've went trough this quite extensively before. Not going to bother again. Look for it.

[orlibonurb]

bull. Shit. Christ is not real.

Christianity is bullshit. Jesus Christ never existed. The Bible is pure evil.


hahahahahahahahah.

What else do you need ? Historical evidence for the most important person to ever hit this planet ?! LOL, son.

Rationalizing that He "didn't exist" won't make Him go away. You'll still answer to Him if you die in your sins.

[michael christopher]

hahahahahahahahah.

What else do you need ? Historical evidence for the most important person to ever hit this planet ?! LOL, son.

Rationalizing that He "didn't exist" won't make Him go away. You'll still answer to Him if you die in your sins.

To stand on such a pedestal when every shred of evidence known to man proves that the entire Bible is nothing more than a fabrication created to brainwash idiots like you - well - sometimes I think God has a brilliant sense of humor. You believe a guy rose from the dead yet you tell me I'm being irrational.

[orlibonurb]

Debunk ~25% prophecy. That's a bunch of scripture for you to "debunk".

An amazing "fabrication created to brainwash idiots" as you say, which happens to tell us the end from the beggining. Which tells us all major geopolitical events thousands of years before they happen.

Some examples,

. Israel reborn as a nation (and in one day !) - debunk that x2.

. Israel's military power being amazing after they come back to the nation - debunk that.

. One world government (revived Roman Empire) before Jesus second coming - debunk that.

. One world religion before Jesus second coming - debunk that.

. Cashless society giving place to the "Mark of the Beast" - debunk that.

. Rise of apostasy in Christianity in the "end times" - debunk that.

. War in the Middle East to happen after Israel comes back to the land - debunk that.

. Third temple rebuilt in Jerusalem in the "end times" - debunk that.

[zero1]

It's a very boring book actually, but essential reading for research purposes.

[nectars]

Bull. Shit. Christ is not real.

Actually Christ is, Jesus though, if he ever was, is dust.

Uh, sorry, but there is no "esoteric" way to interpret "Go forth and kill all within this nation, and leave not a child left standing." That was meant to be so metaphorical, I'm sure. Or when that guy runs a pregnant woman through with a spear because she bred with an outside, boy, what a strange metaphor that one is. I'm sure it wasn't meant to be taken literally though. It's not like the Bible is full of tons of commands of how to violently murder apostates. Those are all just spiritual metaphors, which people misunderstand. :rolleyes:

Christianity is bullshit. Jesus Christ never existed. The Bible is pure evil.

You know, for someone who "act's" "intelligent" you never really got it down did you?

Anyway, feel free to quote whatever passages your refering to in the nonsense above and I'll be more than happy to interpret them for you.

It's a very boring book actually, but essential reading for research purposes.

It is boring, until you see the symbolic allegory of it. Nothing in the Bible is as it seems, yet its far more than it could have been once seen for what it really is. There are no "people" in the Bible, either in the old or the new.

[michael christopher]

Actually Christ is, Jesus though, if he ever was, is dust.



You know, for someone who "act's" "intelligent" you never really got it down did you?

Anyway, feel free to quote whatever passages your refering to in the nonsense above and I'll be more than happy to interpret them for you.

I'm not going to waste my time quoting Bible passages where God commands the Jews to raze entire cities, kill entire populations and steal their land. I'm not going to bother quoting to you from the book of Leviticus about what God says to do to witches and homosexuals. If you want to deny that the Bible says to perpetrate acts of violence against apostates, then you are nothing more than a filthy propagandist liar.

Read the god-damned Bible yourself. I don't have to quote it to you. Everyone knows what is in that book except for fucking Christians themselves, apparently.

How the FUCK can you idiots act so damned high and mighty while denying that the Bible commands outright, straightforward murder? Have you no shame?

[nectars]

I'm not going to waste my time quoting Bible passages where God commands the Jews to raze entire cities, kill entire populations and steal their land. I'm not going to bother quoting to you from the book of Leviticus about what God says to do to witches and homosexuals. If you want to deny that the Bible says to perpetrate acts of violence against apostates, then you are nothing more than a filthy propagandist liar.

Or, like Orli, a fucking idiot.

Read the god-damned Bible yourself. I don't have to quote it to you. Everyone knows what is in that book except for fucking Christians themselves, apparently.

How the FUCK can you idiots act so damned high and mighty while denying that the Bible commands outright, straightforward murder? Have you no shame?

Ok since that hows you wont it to go fine, since I really did underestimate your ignorance anyway huh? I'll try not to this time and keep it real simple for you m'kay?

Did I say I was a Christian? Did I claim that certain aspects of the Bible hadn't been added to and/or altered etc? Did I even claim that it was a "literal fucking truth that any clown like yourself could understand"? -all the same I wouldn't have as I'm usually more respectful of people than you show in any of your posts. Guess you got lucky, I dont often feel the need to drop to such pathetic level of behavior as cursing at people on here in order to get them to "fucking listen".

Anyway I digress...

No you say? Your right I didn't, looks like you should have paid a little bit more "fucking attention" before you went mouthing of huh?

You know, you waltz about these forums as if you deserve some sort of preferential treatment or medal and yet, your no better than anyone else on here. Your really are not as smart as you think you are man, otherwise youd be more careful when playing with fire -it tends to burn.

Anyway have fun with your BS parade dude, quite frankly your not worth it.

[tannah]

No Christian hates a non-Christian. It's quite the opposite, your hate in this forum is very blatant (same goes for tannah).




You're hatred is done squeeky clean, but on inspecting the details you go along with a dark and sordid message. You present a God on the verge of punishing mankind. Dramatics aside, you're envisioning many ordinary day folk spending an eternity suffering in hell. Yet I am hateful?

You think a person who needs help cares about a "fuck" word? I merely point you to your horned heart with my behaviour.

I've never met such an arrogant crew, who block their ears and hide behind the bible and pretend they're resisting satan. What an uncharitable way to approach others on the internet. Got your armour of God on and surfing eh? It was bad enough when you used to come to the door.

It's no surprise that a lot of rebellious kids come from apparently well-to-do- conformist families. Kids smell the hipocrasy in their squeeky clean parents, and they normally want to do the opposite, like take up voodoo.

Your attitudes are made for self righteous wars. You are still the same false pharisee-like spirits you've always been, ears blocked and heart horned. You are the real problem. Your beliefs cause the tensions, and then you like to think the conflicts are not a result of your attitude.
Of course they are. Just look at your own behaviour here. You grant no-one a fair say. They must be following the devil if they don't follow you and your council of Nicea inspired soap operatics. The concept of Jesus as God wasn't born until around then. Yet you labour the point that Jesus is God, as if you're doing the Council's bidding.

If it ain't for the All
Then it's Ball.

[michael christopher]

Ok since that hows you wont it to go fine, since I really did underestimate your ignorance anyway huh? I'll try not to this time and keep it real simple for you m'kay?

Did I say I was a Christian? Did I claim that certain aspects of the Bible hadn't been added to and/or altered etc? Did I even claim that it was a "literal fucking truth that any clown like yourself could understand"? -all the same I wouldn't have as I'm usually more respectful of people than you show in any of your posts. Guess you got lucky, I dont often feel the need to drop to such pathetic level of behavior as cursing at people on here in order to get them to "fucking listen".

Anyway I digress...

No you say? Your right I didn't, looks like you should have paid a little bit more "fucking attention" before you went mouthing of huh?

You know, you waltz about these forums as if you deserve some sort of preferential treatment or medal and yet, your no better than anyone else on here. Your really are not as smart as you think you are man, otherwise youd be more careful when playing with fire -it tends to burn.

Anyway have fun with your BS parade dude, quite frankly your not worth it.

Once again:

Human beings are the Tree of Knowledge -the knowledge of good and evil. People being too confused to understand a book is of their own doing through misidentification with the nature of the words as being literal, not symbolic and of the nature of their Self and its relationship to the One True Living God.

and

Anyway, feel free to quote whatever passages your refering to in the nonsense above and I'll be more than happy to interpret them for you.

So dude, shut the hell up. You can feel free to "interpret" the passages where God commands Moses and the Israelites to destroy cities all you want. Feel free to interpret the passages about killing children who talk back to their parents all you want. You are nothing more than a fucking apologist. I'm done playing nice with you tools. I'm done letting you stretch the truth and pretend the Bible isn't pure evil. I don't care if I get banned and I don't care if I offend you. You're nothing more than an apologist for a book of filth and you deserve to be called out on it.

Whether or not you identify as a Christian, you certainly make a lot of excuses for them and the disgusting book which manufactured them into demons in the first place.

EDIT: And having YOU insult my intelligence after listening to you explain that man merely misinterprets the Bible would have me rolling on the floor laughing if I didn't pity your blindness. The Bible is NOT misinterpreted when it comes to the nasty judgments and condemnations and justifications it doles out. It's the devil's handbook.

[nectars]

About what I expected, have fun with that.

Edit: lol@edit.

[michael christopher]

About what I expected, have fun with that.

Edit: lol@edit.

Actually, why don't you just explain it? Explain how it's misinterpreted that God commands children to be killed? I know you've claimed that the Bible has had interpolations, but that flies in the face with your theory that man is what makes the Bible evil and not the other way around. Just come on. Back up your theories. Be a good apologist. Explain how the Bible is not responsible for evil.

I would love to see your explanation. Mine is self-evident, because the Bible flat out says to kill innocent people. I don't think I have much explaining to do on that end. But hey, apparently I'm wrong, apparently I'm just too dumb to read the plain English that the Bible spells out for me. Apparently "Kill such and such" actually doesn't literally mean to kill them. Please, Mr. Intellectual, explain to me why I'm wrong.

[tannah]

The Council of Nicea has nothing to do with the Word of God. We've went trough this quite extensively before. Not going to bother again. Look for it.

Wot a pile of bollox. You ran away again. And you can only stay hipnotized for so long.

You're playing with people's destinies. In presenting this picture of hell, you render God incomplete or responsible. If I was given a ticket to heaven based on millions suffering in hell, I'd not take it. Nothing in life seems more dumb than having to suffer eternal hellish torment for not "believing in " Jesus. OK, one looses the quiz, gets a wooden spoon at worst. So yes, your message is absurd. Because it's just too soap opera.

The real thing is different. There we see a beautiful universe with trillions of galaxies. And on one planet there is this abundance of life. We as a species are quite a bit more complicated, and only an all-knowing God could ever know fully and completely all the billions of humans that exist and have existed. None of us can perceive the way in which All-Knowing can judge. We don't know each other hardly at all, and barely know ourselves any better. God knows that person fully. Sarah Jones is safe in those hands. And you're an asshole Orli mate.

[ben87]

To stand on such a pedestal when every shred of evidence known to man proves that the entire Bible is nothing more than a fabrication created to brainwash idiots like you - well - sometimes I think God has a brilliant sense of humor. You believe a guy rose from the dead yet you tell me I'm being irrational.

Best post ever.

[afrikan_serpent]

michael christopher;

MC; i have noticed that you continue to say that the bible has references to all sorts of terrible things such as murder & genocide...i was wondering if you could post a verse here that describes this?... i ask you not out of malice, or to provoke u...but i would actually like to see it in writing, mainly because its something ive thought about recently myself... i have not read the bible properly yet, but i had a lot of teaching in sunday school(that i never really paid attention to)...so would you be able to find a verse for us?


Also, why all the arguement and hate toward each others views here?
is it impossible to air our views without such a tone of hatred and ignorance?
cmon...were all here to learn from each other in some way... but spitting the flames of fury at each other is simply childish...wheres the tolerance for one another?

[krakhead]

You would still be living in the dark ages if it wasn't for Christians and the Word of God.


Such historical ignorance! :rolleyes: I think you'll find that it was actually the exact opposite. The Renaissance period of 14th century (CE) Europe was a move away from the cultural and scientific stranglehold of christianity and a move towards a period of scientific enlightenment.

[omnisense]

Such historical ignorance! :rolleyes: I think you'll find that it was actually the exact opposite. The Renaissance period of 14th century (CE) Europe was a move away from the cultural and scientific stranglehold of christianity and a move towards a period of scientific enlightenment.

Agreed. I think I will stay away from this section, as it reminds me of how retarded a lot of humanity still is. It brings my energy downward to read some of these putrid thoughts.

I would rather be tortured by a reptilian(which I have experienced), than try to reason with a meatbag religious nut. lol

[major seven]

A.S.
Also, why all the arguement and hate toward each others views here?



M7
Human Nature



A.S.
Is it impossible to air our views without such a tone of hatred and ignorance?



M7
Ayup!! Pretty Much!
See Human Nature




A.S.
cmon...were all here to learn from each other in some way... but spitting the flames of fury at each other is simply childish...wheres the tolerance for one another?




M7
Quite So!
Yes Yes!! and,
Once again, Human Nature!

Where have you been?

Cain vs Abel
Jews vs Cannanites
Jews vs Catholics
Jews vs Muslims
Protestants vs Catholics
Catholics vs EVERYBODY
Muslims vs EVERYBODY
Whites vs Negros
Whites vs Indians
England vs EVERYBODY
Germany vs EVERYBODY
Russia vs EVERYBODY
America vs EVERYBODY
France vs France
Democrats vs Republicans
Congress vs Senate
Presidents vs Congress and Senate
Orli vs Tannah
Orli vs Michael Christopher
Orli vs EVERYBODY

Get the Picture Yet?

:D

[omnisense]

i dont buy its human nature to hate each other. Maybe some of us, but not all. Don't put me in the same catagory as these inbred hatefilled retards. lol

[clachan]

Best post ever.

The post you are refereing to comes from the a very nasty and vindictive person,if you encorage such a dark,evil individual then you are as guilty as himself of sowing the seed of hatred.
One whose presence is felt to be distasteful is better left alone for fear of being dragged into the same filthy pit of despair and hopelesness.

However,I think you may be already there.

[clachan]

A.S.
Also, why all the arguement and hate toward each others views here?



M7
Human Nature



A.S.
Is it impossible to air our views without such a tone of hatred and ignorance?



M7
Ayup!! Pretty Much!
See Human Nature




A.S.
cmon...were all here to learn from each other in some way... but spitting the flames of fury at each other is simply childish...wheres the tolerance for one another?




M7
Quite So!
Yes Yes!! and,
Once again, Human Nature!

Where have you been?

Cain vs Abel
Jews vs Cannanites
Jews vs Catholics
Jews vs Muslims
Protestants vs Catholics
Catholics vs EVERYBODY
Muslims vs EVERYBODY
Whites vs Negros
Whites vs Indians
England vs EVERYBODY
Germany vs EVERYBODY
Russia vs EVERYBODY
America vs EVERYBODY
France vs France
Democrats vs Republicans
Congress vs Senate
Presidents vs Congress and Senate
Orli vs Tannah
Orli vs Michael Christopher
Orli vs EVERYBODY

Get the Picture Yet?

:D

Morning Major !

Dont forget the Dukes of Hazard county verses Boss Hog and Rosco !

[angelthecat]

Hi Nickos,
We are just human beings,you and i are no different to the rest of humanity.



please try to refrain from calling men and women human beings as it is a copywritten word and does not appear in the Bible

In Balantine’s Self Pronouncing Law Dictionary, 1948, page 389, Human Being is defined as "See Monster." On page 540 of this same Law Dictionary, Monster is defined as "a human being by birth, but in some part resembling a lower animal."



source (http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/words.html) the words it does make very interesting reading, and the truth will help to set you free and it is the words you use that bind you

sorry to OP for going a little off topic

[clachan]

please try to refrain from calling men and women human beings as it is a copywritten word and does not appear in the Bible




source (http://www.ecclesia.org/truth/words.html) the words it does make very interesting reading, and the truth will help to set you free and it is the words you use that bind you

sorry to OP for going a little off topic

Well yes,ofcourse I should have known better really.

Mind you,with a blood group like O negative there,s a good chance Im only half human anyway:eek::eek:

[clachan]

When every last Christian has expired. BTW, who the hell are you to criticize the Bible when your own psychosis can barely be considered any better?

How can people who spout one form of non-sense attack people who spout another?

Jesus Christ. Your bullshit is just as bad as the bullshit of fundamentalist Christians. Holy fuck, the hypocrisy is just mind-numbingly ridiculous. If you need a messiah, you are a pathetic waste of flesh. Find some way to teleport yourself back to the dark ages where people who need saviors belong.

"How can people who spout one form of non sense attack people who spout another ?" :rolleyes:

Thats a question only you can answer. :)

[energi]

Debunk ~25% prophecy. That's a bunch of scripture for you to "debunk".

An amazing "fabrication created to brainwash idiots" as you say, which happens to tell us the end from the beggining. Which tells us all major geopolitical events thousands of years before they happen.

Some examples,

. Israel reborn as a nation (and in one day !) - debunk that x2.

. Israel's military power being amazing after they come back to the nation - debunk that.

. One world government (revived Roman Empire) before Jesus second coming - debunk that.

. One world religion before Jesus second coming - debunk that.

. Cashless society giving place to the "Mark of the Beast" - debunk that.

. Rise of apostasy in Christianity in the "end times" - debunk that.

. War in the Middle East to happen after Israel comes back to the land - debunk that.

. Third temple rebuilt in Jerusalem in the "end times" - debunk that.
You've ever considered viewing this as all being ILLUMINATI CREATIONS TO BEGIN WITH? The symbolism, overthrowing of old worlds into new world dictatorships yaddah yaddah, same old bullshit from those fabricating it to the masses.

All of this is happening (as planned out by TPTB) and you can therefore feel safe 'cuz you and fellow christians have a free pass to whatever after-life you feel like pursuing (while all others shall perish eternally in hell/whatever)?

Praise the Lord, Opium of the Masses!

[clachan]

You've ever considered viewing this as all being ILLUMINATI CREATIONS TO BEGIN WITH? The symbolism, overthrowing of old worlds into new world dictatorships yaddah yaddah, same old bullshit from those fabricating it to the masses.

All of this is happening (as planned out by TPTB) and you can therefore feel safe 'cuz you and fellow christians have a free pass to whatever after-life you feel like pursuing (while all others shall perish eternally in hell/whatever)?

Praise the Lord, Opium of the Masses!

So your saying that the illuminati wrote all this 2000 years ago and are playing it out ?

[nectars]

Actually, why don't you just explain it?

"Knowing about" is not the same as "Knowing it". Giving an explanation doesn't allow anyone to "own" it, it has to be self realized to be of personal use.

Explain how it's misinterpreted that God commands children to be killed? I know you've claimed that the Bible has had interpolations, but that flies in the face with your theory that man is what makes the Bible evil and not the other way around.

Because it doesn't mean kill "children". In what other ways could the idea of children be seen? Think outside the box, not within it.

Man makes it that way because as you do (s)he decides to take words as literal truth instead of looking at their deeper meaning.

Just come on. Back up your theories. Be a good apologist. Explain how the Bible is not responsible for evil.

Apologist? I never attempt to justify the Christian concepts of the Bible as they are false. The Bible is not responsible for "evil" or anything else of that nature as it takes the hand of man to carry out anything "in the name of", hence, mans misunderstanding of its teachings are responsible and therfore man himself is responsible. Shirking this responsibility does not remove its shackle.

I would love to see your explanation. Mine is self-evident, because the Bible flat out says to kill innocent people. I don't think I have much explaining to do on that end. But hey, apparently I'm wrong, apparently I'm just too dumb to read the plain English that the Bible spells out for me.

To be honest I dont believe your "dumb" in the slightest, quite the opposite. Yet your so set on demonising it that you'll stop at nothing to ensure that your "opinion" is vindicated at all costs; the ego always wants to be right, and then when it gets what it wants it says, "look, I told you so! I'm right!" and is still left to deal with the aftermath of a self created situation it denies any responsibility for creating.

Apparently "Kill such and such" actually doesn't literally mean to kill them. Please, Mr. Intellectual, explain to me why I'm wrong.

Kill does mean kill, just not "to kill" what you think it does. As stated at the beginning of this post, I will not rob you of ownership of the realization of the truth of this as it could come from anywhere not necessarily(in fact doubtfully), the Bibles teachings.

Anyway, I'm about through running in circles with this here. Have fun.

[michael christopher]

michael christopher;

MC; i have noticed that you continue to say that the bible has references to all sorts of terrible things such as murder & genocide...i was wondering if you could post a verse here that describes this?... i ask you not out of malice, or to provoke u...but i would actually like to see it in writing, mainly because its something ive thought about recently myself... i have not read the bible properly yet, but i had a lot of teaching in sunday school(that i never really paid attention to)...so would you be able to find a verse for us?

You have got to be kidding me. Run a search on the forum instead of being an ignorant, lazy believer. I'm sick of being nice to ignorant freaks! How the hell can anyone deny that the Bible is full of commands to kill?! HAVE YOU EVER READ LEVITICUS?! EXODUS?! NUMBERS?! JUDGES?! DEUTERONOMY?!

WTF?!?!?!?!

*head explodes*

I'm not quoting shit to you! There are thousands and thousands of endless quotes that anyone with the slightest amount of interest can find by simply OPENING UP A BIBLE. There are hundreds of posts on this forum alone detailing verse by verse the fucked up things in the Bible. I'm not going to sit here and quote them back to people who are too stupid to see Christianity for what it is over and over again.

Open a fucking book!

Also, why all the arguement and hate toward each others views here?
is it impossible to air our views without such a tone of hatred and ignorance?
cmon...were all here to learn from each other in some way... but spitting the flames of fury at each other is simply childish...wheres the tolerance for one another?

Christianity is PURE HATRED and thus it gets what it gives. You can't be nice to someone who tells you that you deserve to burn in the eternal fires of Hell. I have been political with the Christian assholes on this site, I have been nice, I have shown them passages, I have done everything asked of me and yet I still see these freaks coming out of the woodwork to spread their poison. I'm not being nice anymore. They need to crawl back into the Hell pit that puked them out. Maybe Satan got sick of these pricks as well and sent them up to earth to torture everyone else.

[marina2012]

"BIBLE" definition from www.dictionary4morons.org -- "a recorded biased history of a wannabe people"

no people is more "special" or "chosen" over other people, get over it already

just my 2cents

[afrikan_serpent]

You have got to be kidding me. Run a search on the forum instead of being an ignorant, lazy believer. I'm sick of being nice to ignorant freaks! How the hell can anyone deny that the Bible is full of commands to kill?! HAVE YOU EVER READ LEVITICUS?! EXODUS?! NUMBERS?! JUDGES?! DEUTERONOMY?!

WTF?!?!?!?!

*head explodes*

I'm not quoting shit to you! There are thousands and thousands of endless quotes that anyone with the slightest amount of interest can find by simply OPENING UP A BIBLE. There are hundreds of posts on this forum alone detailing verse by verse the fucked up things in the Bible. I'm not going to sit here and quote them back to people who are too stupid to see Christianity for what it is over and over again.

Open a fucking book!



Christianity is PURE HATRED and thus it gets what it gives. You can't be nice to someone who tells you that you deserve to burn in the eternal fires of Hell. I have been political with the Christian assholes on this site, I have been nice, I have shown them passages, I have done everything asked of me and yet I still see these freaks coming out of the woodwork to spread their poison. I'm not being nice anymore. They need to crawl back into the Hell pit that puked them out. Maybe Satan got sick of these pricks as well and sent them up to earth to torture everyone else.

Thank you for your genuine, polite reply. please forgive my ignorant, newbie status.
I am not a christian or a muslim, i am just looking to connect with people that seem to know a lot on the subject in order to increase my own knowledge.
I beg forgiveness on my lack of research, i have just now discovered the search function and will use it. However, i would still appreciate a verse from you to back up your argument in this thread...just one please, perhaps it could be the vilest verse you have come across? the reason i ask, is not to defend the bible, but to see these verses myself...because i also share a similar perception to you, that the bible has been used to drive wars & do evil...but i have no evidence on this & since you seem to know of many of these passages, i thought u might have one on hand... the bible is a rather long book with many pages & I have started to read it, but it will take a while....so i would appreciate your answer.

[major seven]

Morning Major !

Dont forget the Dukes of Hazard county verses Boss Hog and Rosco !



Good one C-Man!

How about,
Smokey vs The Bandit

Bugs Bunny vs Yosemite Sam

Cowboys vs Indians

Islam vs Lizards :)


Once you get started, its kinda hard to stop.

One could go on for days and weeks with examples of "intolerance" and never run out.

Kind of a sad reminder how much we have evolved on the social ladder.
More likely, we have DE-Evolved.

Nothing to do, I reckon, but,

Keep On Truckin

:D

[quetzalcoatl]

You would still be living in the dark ages if it wasn't for Christians and the Word of God.

The second Roman Inquisition is coming thou, pretty sure you'll enjoy it.


Hint #1,

Revelation {13:15} And he had power to give life unto the image of the beast, that the image of the beast should both speak, and cause that as many as would not worship the image of the beast should be killed. {13:16} And he causeth all, both small and great, rich and poor, free and bond, to receive a mark in their right hand, or in their foreheads: {13:17} And that no man might buy or sell, save he that had the mark, or the name of the beast, or the number of his name.

Hint #2,

Revelation {20:4} And I saw thrones, and they sat upon them, and judgment was given unto them: and [I saw] the souls of them that were beheaded for the witness of Jesus, and for the word of God, and which had not worshipped the beast, neither his image, neither had received [his] mark upon their foreheads, or in their hands; and they lived and reigned with Christ a thousand years.

Such historical ignorance! :rolleyes: I think you'll find that it was actually the exact opposite. The Renaissance period of 14th century (CE) Europe was a move away from the cultural and scientific stranglehold of christianity and a move towards a period of scientific enlightenment.

Yeah, yet if it wasn't for the Churches dogma & monopoly on their version of 'science'; would there still have been such 'rebellion' as Galileo claiming the Earth orbits around the Sun etc??? - could be tho, but it did seem to be a factor & catalyst toward scientific enlightenment, as ya say.

Galileo Galilei - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Renaissance#Religion

The new ideals of humanism, although more secular in some aspects, developed against a Christian backdrop, especially in the Northern Renaissance. Indeed, much (if not most) of the new art was commissioned by or in dedication to the Church.[14] However, the Renaissance had a profound effect on contemporary theology, particularly in the way people perceived the relationship between man and God.

The Renaissance began in times of religious turmoil. The late Middle Ages saw a period of political intrigue surrounding the Papacy, culminating in the Western Schism, in which three men simultaneously claimed to be true Bishop of Rome.[56] While the schism was resolved by the Council of Constance (1414), the 15th century saw a resulting reform movement know as Conciliarism, which sought to limit the pope's power. Although the papacy eventually emerged supreme in ecclesiastical matters by the Fifth Council of the Lateran (1511), it was dogged by continued accusations of corruption, most famously in the person of Pope Alexander VI, who was accused variously of simony, nepotism and fathering four illegitimate children whilst Pope, whom he married off to gain more power.

Churchmen such as Erasmus and Luther proposed reform to the Church, often based on humanist textual criticism of the New Testament.[14] Indeed, it was Luther who in October 1517 published the 95 Theses, challenging papal authority and criticizing its perceived corruption, particularly with regard to its sale of indulgences. The 95 Theses led to the Reformation, a break with the Roman Catholic Church that previously claimed hegemony in Western Europe. Humanism and the Renaissance therefore played a direct role in sparking the Reformation, as well as in many other contemporaneous religious debates and conflicts.

People generally rebel against oppression & corruption; & it quite often leads to higher / better understandings, IMO...

[actaeons_revenge]

I still fail to see the differences amongst the abrahamic faiths. All these three death cults do is teach you to forsake your real life in the hopes that some imaginary afterlife might be better. Just an excuse for the lazy to keep feeling powerless and do nothing rather than contribute to making society a better place to live in.

[michael christopher]

I still fail to see the differences amongst the abrahamic faiths. All these three death cults do is teach you to forsake your real life in the hopes that some imaginary afterlife might be better. Just an excuse for the lazy to keep feeling powerless and do nothing rather than contribute to making society a better place to live in.

I like the quote from the Modest Mouse song "The Ocean Breathes Salty."

"You wasted life, why wouldn't you waste the after life?"