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limelady
18-02-2007, 02:37 AM
Over a year ago now a very good friend of mind got involved in Reverse Speech, in particular he was following the work of a woman known as Peggy Kane who at that time had a website and forum, and she was predicting that the reptilians were planning an escape from this planet. This woman had quite a significant following of very frightened people hanging off her every word, and she was very busy doing the Internet radio talk-show rounds and giving very specific dates for when certain events were supposed to take place - her guest appearance on the Sherry Shriner gave Shiner a lot of ammo for her Yahweh rants. http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/kane.htm

Kane had many people convinced the reps were going to set the atmosphere on fire on their way out of here, leaving all of us to fry in our own juices so-to-speak. :eek:

My friend - a long-term researcher - was very taken in by this woman and her predictions (the dates of which I might add kept changing as the events didn't come to pass in the manner of her predictions), and he urged me ...or should I say, he pretty much badgered me to look into it because he truly believed this woman was on to something "very significant" and we were all in danger.....especially if we "heard the frequency tones" the reptilians to make from their spacecraft that would trick people into running outside to see what the noise was, ONLY to be zapped up into the craft where they would be killed and hung in a meat-locker for later food for the reptilians on their long space-flight out of the galaxy!

From the start my gut feeling told me 'fraud', but to appease my friend, for nearly a week I studied all the material I could find on the web about Remote Viewing, and in particular the claims being made by this Peggy Kane woman.

I told my friend I felt Kane was likely mind-controlled and doing a job, because at his insistence I had listened over and over to all the various speech reversals where she claimed to be hearing entire sentences spoken by reptilians (via their human politician 'hosts')....and as hard as I tried to hear what Kane and others were hearing, to me it was all gobbledee-gook 'crap'. However my friend thought I being unreasonable as he could hear the reversals (along with many of her other followers) quite clearly....he told me I was not hearing it because I was 'blocked' to the idea of Reverse Speech! :cool:

To be fair, Peggy Kane seemed a genuinely lovely lady, very frightened and concerned for the well-being of humanity, but as I told my friend, everything this woman said set alarm bells off in my head and I had to walk away shaking my head that others were so under her spell. She was winding people up and inciting fear in her followers who were all totally convinced the world was about to end. However, after her final date came and went for the grand finale event where the reptilians were going to exit the planet in a spaceship in grand style .....and STILL nothing happened.... to dodge ridicule and further having to adjust the times and dates etc....Kane's assignment was finally done and she closed down her website and disappeared. An old interview with her can be found here:

http://www.theedgeam.com/guests/pastguest7.htm (scroll down)

While I'm still convinced this whole Kane thing was a CIA operation to discredit researchers who support the reptilian agenda thesis... and perhaps conspiracy theorists in general, I was wondering what others here think of Reverse Speech as a research too? Does it have any practical applications? Was the Kane debacle set-up to put people off Reverse Speech as a valid line of research?

Peggy Kane

neondestiny
18-02-2007, 02:47 AM
Hi Limelady, I have got to say I don't know about the Peggy Kane thing, but that Sherry Shiner rings alarm bells with me.
From reading her website I got nothing but fear and negativity, I feel and sorry to those that like her she is just an egotistical fanatic out to make a buck through fear and not the granddaughter of King David as she claims.
(So sorry to anyone if they take offence, this is just want my own gut feeling is relaying to me)
So if this Peggy Kane is in with her, then I can only conclude she is either being deceived along with Sherry :)

oneofmany
18-02-2007, 02:51 AM
David John Oates was a guy i saw on one of Richard C Hoagland's seminars about Mars and his research of reverse speech and the relevance to Richards work blew me away. The phrases he caught on tape were clear and relevant to what was being said in real speech. This is his website http://www.reversespeech.com/home.htm if you want to know more about him and his work. I own a home recording studio and have tested it on my little son Ryan, who is 15 months old, and it actually works. David's theory is that we learn to speak in reverse before we speak normally, and that babytalk, is actually reverse speech to an extent. Also David says that we all reverse speak about every 30 seconds or so and that it is our subconscious telling the truth in place of our lies.

Interesting Subject :cool:

limelady
18-02-2007, 03:09 AM
David John Oates was a guy i saw on one of Richard C Hoagland's seminars about Mars and his research of reverse speech and the relevance to Richards work blew me away. The phrases he caught on tape were clear and relevant to what was being said in real speech. This is his website http://www.reversespeech.com/home.htm if you want to know more about him and his work. I own a home recording studio and have tested it on my little son Ryan, who is 15 months old, and it actually works. David's theory is that we learn to speak in reverse before we speak normally, and that babytalk, is actually reverse speech to an extent. Also David says that we all reverse speak about every 30 seconds or so and that it is our subconscious telling the truth in place of our lies.

Interesting Subject :cool:

Thanks oneofmany. I have actually looked into the work of David Oates as part of my research a year or so ago. I'm still not sure reversing speech has a lot of relevance as a research tool, however I keep an open mind of course. But I was a bit alarmed to read somewhere (sorry I can't find the reference) that there are those pushing to allow the use of speech reversals as evidence in law courts! :eek:

LL

oneofmany
18-02-2007, 03:16 AM
Thanks oneofmany. I have actually looked into the work of David Oates as part of my research a year or so ago. I'm still not sure reversing speech has a lot of relevance as a research tool, however I keep an open mind of course. But I was a bit alarmed to read somewhere (sorry I can't find the reference) that there are those pushing to allow the use of speech reversals as evidence in law courts! :eek:

LLOuch I wouldn't go that far, but if you saw the way Richard C Hoagland employed David's skills. It was pretty impressive and quite convincing. But used in a court of law on it's own merits i don't think will stand up. It needs solid evidence to back it up.

garth
18-02-2007, 03:32 AM
Isn't Hoadland a disinformer? So is Art Bell isn't he? This guy Oates may be one too.

check out this link i just found
http://irupert.com/mars/hoaxland.html

oneofmany
18-02-2007, 03:43 AM
Isn't Hoadland a disinformer? So is Art Bell isn't he? This guy Oates may be one too.

check out this link i just found
http://irupert.com/mars/hoaxland.html

I give you that these people may be bunk, however, i've tried reverse speech recording with my own software and found it to work often when using it on my son Ryan. thanks for the link.

limelady
18-02-2007, 04:57 AM
Thanks all for your responses.

I used to follow the work of Richard Hoagland quite closely, and I still do check in and catch up on what he's up to, but like many others who've worked for government departments (Hoagland worked for NASA) from time to time I detect disinformation creeping into his work. Now I understand more about mind control and the insidious nature of disinformation, I feel fairly sure many who leave their govt jobs and 'squeal' on their former employer are likely to have undergone some prior mind programming, and you can never be sure if they may still be operating under some sort of mind control.

It pays to remember though that all good disinformation has a solid base of "truth" that decerning people can get their teeth into first - good disinformers needs to run along side of credibility first and foremost, otherwise the bits and pieces of disinfo they sneak in would not be accepted readily by those they wish to mislead.

As far as Reverse Speech is concerned, until there are some solid independent studies that confirm and validate its viability as a legitimate research tool, I'll likely remain somewhat sceptical of its worth - at this stage it would seem that what research is available on this subject has been subjugated by those who espouse its virtues, so naturally there is bias involved in the results.

LL

oneofmany
18-02-2007, 10:47 AM
Thanks all for your responses.

I used to follow the work of Richard Hoagland quite closely, and I still do check in and catch up on what he's up to, but like many others who've worked for government departments (Hoagland worked for NASA) from time to time I detect disinformation creeping into his work. Now I understand more about mind control and the insidious nature of disinformation, I feel fairly sure many who leave their govt jobs and 'squeal' on their former employer are likely to have undergone some prior mind programming, and you can never be sure if they may still be operating under some sort of mind control.

It pays to remember though that all good disinformation has a solid base of "truth" that decerning people can get their teeth into first - good disinformers needs to run along side of credibility first and foremost, otherwise the bits and pieces of disinfo they sneak in would not be accepted readily by those they wish to mislead.

As far as Reverse Speech is concerned, until there are some solid independent studies that confirm and validate its viability as a legitimate research tool, I'll likely remain somewhat sceptical of its worth - at this stage it would seem that what research is available on this subject has been subjugated by those who espouse its virtues, so naturally there is bias involved in the results.

LL well said
as i said earlier i tried it as a form of communication with my son and had success in getting a real word or two out of him most times. but as a research tool?? I don't think so either.

neondestiny
18-02-2007, 12:43 PM
On a similar topic has anyone heard of evp here?
Electronic Voice Phenomena, I just watched a movie recommended to me called white noise, I am still a little bit disturbed by it (the movie) it works on the thought that the personality is electromagnetic and those that have passed have been able to get messages through badly tuned radio's and television sets.
It seems to me to be more of a ouija board type thing, where you are never quite sure who or what is creating the message.
Something I would rather leave alone now after watching the movie.(not much scares me movie wise, but this one really freaked me out)
Has anyone else seen the movie? or experienced evp?
Sorry to hijack your thread Limelady

thirdwave
19-02-2007, 03:46 PM
I heard this one guy on radio... I cant remember his name but he had some clips where he was pointing out the reverse speech....

I felt the same way as the interviewer did, the guy would play the clip and i could not hear anything, then after he would tell us what it was that was meant to have been said, THEN on second hearing it was actually quite odd as you could very clearly hear what was said, and it was not like something you made out your self, it was there to hear.

So I would not count it all out, as what is speech anyway? ...where did it all come from and how much meaning does it really have?

regarding Sherry Shriner I do not buy it for a second... I think she tries to force feed Christianity into the situation to much and although I think anyone is free to have a religion if they wish but for me when people try to tell you that your only escape is through religion I switch off there and then.

heterophobia
20-05-2009, 02:38 AM
Bump...

I was going to make my own thread, but then I saw this one.

I've been wondering about Peggy Kane too. She did admit to be cloned. Sometimes she makes senses, other times not so much. Some of her posts on David Icke...says that the Ayahuaska drug is dangerous and that David Icke may have been cloned.

http://www.evpreversespeaking.com/2007/09/06/david-icke-great-man-but-why-did-you-have-to-take-the-ayawaska/

http://www.evpreversespeaking.com/2007/09/09/david-icke-under-duress-listen/

http://www.evpreversespeaking.com/2007/09/07/david-icke-the-ayawaska-controversy/

Makes me wonder...his new opinion on Reptilians radically changed...Apparently there illusions made up by us? WTF...