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has been adapted for the cinema twice, for the radio twice, for television three times, has been made into a play, and has another film version on the way set for a due date as early as 2009 (see links in the table below). References to its themes, concepts and elements of its plot are also frequent in other works, particularly popular music and video entertainment; for an incomplete but extensive list of these adaptations and references, see the main article. Nineteen Eighty-Four was the inspiration for David Bowie's Diamond Dogs album. It was an acknowledged inspiration for the graphic novel, and later film, V for Vendetta. The original working title for the movie Brazil was 1984½.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
1984
Written by George Orwell (novel)
Release date(s) 2009
Country United States USA
Language English
1984 is an announced 2009 film based on the novel by George Orwell.
I like to see more of this sort of stuff come out.....V for Vendetta was good in terms of exposing the fascist agenda. It's very, very suspicious as too what the makers of these movies are really thinking.....particularly the Wachowskis...
Here's some strange connections in V movie about the V and the number 5 etc from Wiki:
There are numerous references throughout V for Vendetta (both potentially intentional or unintentional) to the number 5 and letter V, which is itself "5" in Roman numerals:
* The title "V for Vendetta" contains 5 syllables.
* The title of each chapter begins with the letter V.
* The character V is seen reading and quoting from Thomas Pynchon's novel, V.
* Beethoven's fifth symphony is used in the book and noted for the prominent use of three short notes and one long, which is the Morse Code identifier for the letter V. This code was used as a call sign by the BBC during World War II, most famously in the sense of V for Victory. [It is worth noting that the telegraph and Morse code were not invented until after Beethoven's death and well after composition of Symphony #5 hence any connection between Beethoven's theme and the letter V is serendipitous but entirely coincidental.]
* Evey's name is composed of "E" (the fifth letter of the alphabet), "V" (5 in Roman numerals, and the fifth letter from the end of the alphabet), and "Y" (25th letter of the alphabet, or 5 squared). The woman who dies in the cell next to that of V at Larkhill is named Valerie Page.
* In the original comic, V leaves a violet carson after he kills someone.
* The publisher is Vertigo-which begins with a V
* V is eventually identified as the prisoner from Room 5 at Larkhill Internment Camp. The five doors are labeled with Roman numerals, so Room 5 is emblazoned with a "V". The number 5, when converted to binary numerals, is 101 (a possible allusion to the infamous torture room 101 in George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four).
* V's hideout is accessed from the closed Victoria tube station, the damaged sign of which resembles a sideways V when Finch locates it.
* V's personal motto consists of the Latin phrase Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici (By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe), which in turn consists of five words that begin with the letter V ("U" is written as "V" in Latin). Aleister Crowley also used the phrase as one of his personal mottos, a fact that appears in Alan Moore's later book Promethea. But V mentions only the origin of the phrase in Faust.
* November is the only month in the Gregorian calendar with the letter V in it.
* As Evey appears to give her speech to the public after she has assumed the identity of V, the visual angle of the frame causes a V to be formed between the edges of the building she is standing on and the building behind her.
* The government consists of the five branches which are identified with the five senses
* At Larkhill, V is injected with Batch "5", or in Roman numerals, Batch "V"
* In the graphic novel, V prepares his revenge for 5 years, but this was changed to twenty years in the film version
* Evey's birthday is at September,so her zodiac sigh is probably Virgo which starts with V.
* Guy Fawkes Day happens on November 5
* "Shadow Gallery", V's hideout, is five syllables
* Codename V's Last word, at the end of the novel, starts with a V.
* Much of V's dialogue is in Iambic Pentameter.
This all draws on The Law of Fives, in particular how it was expressed in The Illuminatus! Trilogy[3] specifically:
“ "And everything really follows the Fives' law?" Joe asked.
"More than you guess," Dillinger remarked blandly.
"Even when you're dealing with social fields, " Simon added. "We've run studies of cultures where the Illuminati were not in control, and they still follow Weishaupt's five-stage pattern: Verwirrung, Zwietracht, Unordnung, Beamtenherrschaft and Grummet."
...
"Hell," Simon said, "look what Beethoven did when Weishaupt illuminated him. Went right home and wrote the Fifth Symphony. You know how it begins: da-da-da-DUM. Morse code for V - the Roman numeral for five"[6]
”
[Here one might consider that the telegraph and morse code were invented well after the composition of Beethoven's Symphony #5. Thus the idea of Beethoven intentionally encoding a Morse code letter V into his music under the influence of Weishaupt can only be a figment of Simon's imagination. The actual derivation of the theme is highly disputed (see Symphony No. 5 (Beethoven)) but is unlikely to have come from inventions unknown and unimagined in Beethoven's time.]
* On a clock that has an hour hand and a minute hand, the time 11:05 makes a V. These two numbers, 11 and 5, where 11 is November, and 5 is the day of November, spell out: the fifth of November. "Remember, remember the 5th of November." -- Guy Fawkes Day.
has been adapted for the cinema twice, for the radio twice, for television three times, has been made into a play, and has another film version on the way set for a due date as early as 2009 (see links in the table below). References to its themes, concepts and elements of its plot are also frequent in other works, particularly popular music and video entertainment; for an incomplete but extensive list of these adaptations and references, see the main article. Nineteen Eighty-Four was the inspiration for David Bowie's Diamond Dogs album. It was an acknowledged inspiration for the graphic novel, and later film, V for Vendetta. The original working title for the movie Brazil was 1984½.
From Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
1984
Written by George Orwell (novel)
Release date(s) 2009
Country United States USA
Language English
1984 is an announced 2009 film based on the novel by George Orwell.
I like to see more of this sort of stuff come out.....V for Vendetta was good in terms of exposing the fascist agenda. It's very, very suspicious as too what the makers of these movies are really thinking.....particularly the Wachowskis...
Here's some strange connections in V movie about the V and the number 5 etc from Wiki:
There are numerous references throughout V for Vendetta (both potentially intentional or unintentional) to the number 5 and letter V, which is itself "5" in Roman numerals:
* The title "V for Vendetta" contains 5 syllables.
* The title of each chapter begins with the letter V.
* The character V is seen reading and quoting from Thomas Pynchon's novel, V.
* Beethoven's fifth symphony is used in the book and noted for the prominent use of three short notes and one long, which is the Morse Code identifier for the letter V. This code was used as a call sign by the BBC during World War II, most famously in the sense of V for Victory. [It is worth noting that the telegraph and Morse code were not invented until after Beethoven's death and well after composition of Symphony #5 hence any connection between Beethoven's theme and the letter V is serendipitous but entirely coincidental.]
* Evey's name is composed of "E" (the fifth letter of the alphabet), "V" (5 in Roman numerals, and the fifth letter from the end of the alphabet), and "Y" (25th letter of the alphabet, or 5 squared). The woman who dies in the cell next to that of V at Larkhill is named Valerie Page.
* In the original comic, V leaves a violet carson after he kills someone.
* The publisher is Vertigo-which begins with a V
* V is eventually identified as the prisoner from Room 5 at Larkhill Internment Camp. The five doors are labeled with Roman numerals, so Room 5 is emblazoned with a "V". The number 5, when converted to binary numerals, is 101 (a possible allusion to the infamous torture room 101 in George Orwell's Nineteen Eighty-Four).
* V's hideout is accessed from the closed Victoria tube station, the damaged sign of which resembles a sideways V when Finch locates it.
* V's personal motto consists of the Latin phrase Vi Veri Universum Vivus Vici (By the power of truth, I, while living, have conquered the universe), which in turn consists of five words that begin with the letter V ("U" is written as "V" in Latin). Aleister Crowley also used the phrase as one of his personal mottos, a fact that appears in Alan Moore's later book Promethea. But V mentions only the origin of the phrase in Faust.
* November is the only month in the Gregorian calendar with the letter V in it.
* As Evey appears to give her speech to the public after she has assumed the identity of V, the visual angle of the frame causes a V to be formed between the edges of the building she is standing on and the building behind her.
* The government consists of the five branches which are identified with the five senses
* At Larkhill, V is injected with Batch "5", or in Roman numerals, Batch "V"
* In the graphic novel, V prepares his revenge for 5 years, but this was changed to twenty years in the film version
* Evey's birthday is at September,so her zodiac sigh is probably Virgo which starts with V.
* Guy Fawkes Day happens on November 5
* "Shadow Gallery", V's hideout, is five syllables
* Codename V's Last word, at the end of the novel, starts with a V.
* Much of V's dialogue is in Iambic Pentameter.
This all draws on The Law of Fives, in particular how it was expressed in The Illuminatus! Trilogy[3] specifically:
“ "And everything really follows the Fives' law?" Joe asked.
"More than you guess," Dillinger remarked blandly.
"Even when you're dealing with social fields, " Simon added. "We've run studies of cultures where the Illuminati were not in control, and they still follow Weishaupt's five-stage pattern: Verwirrung, Zwietracht, Unordnung, Beamtenherrschaft and Grummet."
...
"Hell," Simon said, "look what Beethoven did when Weishaupt illuminated him. Went right home and wrote the Fifth Symphony. You know how it begins: da-da-da-DUM. Morse code for V - the Roman numeral for five"[6]
”
[Here one might consider that the telegraph and morse code were invented well after the composition of Beethoven's Symphony #5. Thus the idea of Beethoven intentionally encoding a Morse code letter V into his music under the influence of Weishaupt can only be a figment of Simon's imagination. The actual derivation of the theme is highly disputed (see Symphony No. 5 (Beethoven)) but is unlikely to have come from inventions unknown and unimagined in Beethoven's time.]
* On a clock that has an hour hand and a minute hand, the time 11:05 makes a V. These two numbers, 11 and 5, where 11 is November, and 5 is the day of November, spell out: the fifth of November. "Remember, remember the 5th of November." -- Guy Fawkes Day.