The most Ancient Meditation on Earth

[chris]

The first meditation and the preliminary meditation that underscores all other meditations, which whole philosophies are based upon. Misconstrued and sidelined throughout the history. Elaborated and embroiled and destroyed by those who can’t see the forest from the trees. Without which nothing can be accomplished without great difficulty. Referred to by the Alchemists as putting on the lab coat and by the shamans as the sunmoon meditation. So often spoken of but never practiced to perfection, opens up all neural pathways and lays down muscles in correct order makes it the foundation for physical strength and visionary power. This is the real hatha yoga.



1. Get comfortable. No distractions, the least amount of stress on your body the better. So laying down with a cushion under your knee’s and head might be a perfect place to start.
2. Physically Relax your body, searching for muscles in spasm. All over, fingers and toes are great places to look.



That’s all there is to it, the fluffy systems about now will always breeze past this meditation and you can tell they don’t take it at all seriously. If you do it properly your breathing will change significantly, you may heat up and sweat profusely, you will experience your third eye opening up, you will feel trapped stress pockets opening up and a kind of fizzing energy being released and gushing into the places where it should be, if you choose to do a visualisation in extreme relaxation you will see the amazing mind power you have opened.

Now in this meditation you must be searching for stress and gravity, when you find it you need to work on releasing it. You will probably all find that you are stressed in different places but there are places and muscles that you will discover you never knew existed. For instance, last night I was doing this and I realised that I had a little stress on the tip of my nose, I released this and straight away I got a picture of a crying child right in front of my face.

In this place I have found it great to do visualisations on laboratory operations such as distillations but also I have found that just freestyling visualisations are very potent. Symbolic visualisations of lab alchemy seems to spring forth like the ones drawn up in the Renaissance.

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http://www.cs.vu.nl/~eliens/media/local/art/alchemy.jpg

Alchemists knew that this meditation was so important that they referred to it as putting on their lab coats this is because in physical alchemy they wouldn’t start an operation without a lab coat just like in inner alchemy they wouldn’t go without this.

In newage yoga this practice is breezed over and almost erased completely because people go too fast too quickly and want to be doing the splits. In old yoga sects they wouldn’t let people practice advanced ansanas (postures) until they could demonstrate they could fully perform the easier ones without any resistance whatsoever. In fact the whole idea of having more advanced ansanas was due to the fact that they could continue their relaxation beyond the point of normal movement produced by simply standing or laying down.

The reason that this meditation is so overlooked is because there is no money to be made from it...You can write books about the Merkabah, angelic healing and all the other bollocks which makes something simple like this completely overlooked.

Become perfect in this lying down, then become perfect in an ansana and then you will have a tremendous basis to perform pathworkings, visualisations and all other forms of meditations.

But know that this meditation can also be considered an end in itself as hatha yogis state that if you perfect asanas then there is no need for any other type of meditation. The old yogis were so advanced in this that they could do all kinds of crazy things like prolaspse their rectum and clean their bowls out which are hanging from them (I almost threw up when I read that first).

[julieray]

That was very interesting, I will try it, just as soon as I can get my damn kids to bed!!:)

[tickles]

When your laid out and relaxed like that then how do you stop yourself from falling a sleep?. (I'm not taking the piss.)

[chris]

When your laid out and relaxed like that then how do you stop yourself from falling a sleep?. (I'm not taking the piss.)

No, it's a good question...I actually find myself waking up while doing this because when you do it right, a lot of energy will be pushing into your brain.

Still I do this before bed, I do it for as long as I feel then roll over to sleep...If you have problems falling asleep before actually getting anywhere then perhaps you should try it earlier in the day but I'm sure you'll find it is harder to fall asleep than you might think.

[tickles]

Still I do this before bed, I do it for as long as I feel then roll over to sleep...

Thats why i asked. I try and do it every night as i'm laying down to go to sleep as well. But i always end up dropping off to sleep :D

[amercury]

I love doing this meditation. When I was a teenager my brother gave me a little red book called "Hatha Yoga" and this was the first thing I ever learned about yoga.
I think it has always stuck with me because it is so simple. It is something I just do to relax, and because it's so simple I never really thought about going very far with it. Like you said 'it is overlooked'.
But after reading your post, I'm going to take it very seriously and spend some more time with it.
Thanks!

[acidjazz]

umm how are we supposed to do the posture im a little confused
:confused:

[julieray]

umm how are we supposed to do the posture im a little confused
:confused:


1. Get comfortable. No distractions, the least amount of stress on your body the better. So laying down with a cushion under your knee’s and head might be a perfect place to start.
2. Physically Relax your body, searching for muscles in spasm. All over, fingers and toes are great places to look.

That's it, no guided meditiation, just lie back and relax. That is what I did last night......I was so relaxed I fell to sleep...ooops!!:D Mind you I was up bright and breezy this morning, which is unusual for me, so it did do me the world of good.:)

[chris]

umm how are we supposed to do the posture im a little confused
:confused:

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It's called corpse posture...But you can also put a pillow under your knees, this is not about stretching at all, the opposite.

I just do it in bed, although you shouldn't do it under your sheets because there is so much tension usually in the feet and you can't feel it all when you have a sheet touching down on them.

It's not so much about the posture, it's the constant searching for tension, in specific places and all around the body at the same time which releases the energy.

[acidjazz]

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thanks a bunch man :D

[intruder]

A great thread!!! thanks!!! strip away the "mysticism" and just get "in touch" with the inner body!

[chris]

A great thread!!! thanks!!! strip away the "mysticism" and just get "in touch" with the inner body!

I would say when you can breath naturally from the bottom of your lungs like babies and yogis do, then you have a very strong foundation for other works.

ORA ET LABORA!

[lizzy]

A great thread!!! thanks!!! strip away the "mysticism" and just get "in touch" with the inner body!
Yes, I agree. That and not enough time is spent just relaxing through our blocked energy. Thanku.

[ninja17]

chris,

There are meditations that involve the squeezing of your pc-muscle to induce chi from the environment into the bodies energy cycle.

Whut do you think about it?

helpfull for the meditation you metioned?

[chris]

chris,

There are meditations that involve the squeezing of your pc-muscle to induce chi from the environment into the bodies energy cycle.

Whut do you think about it?

helpfull for the meditation you metioned?

This meditation is really a prerequisite for all other meditations, if you like kundalini yoga and would like to force energy up in their ways then this meditation is perfect for it. Kundalini yoga needs a straight back and though many yogi's can sit in the lotus posture, it doesn't mean that their back is straight and unrestricted.

I've tried Squeezing the PC muscles in this posture and the benefit of it is not only the upflowing of prana but the fact is that the PC muscles are one of the core muscles that get tightened in the fear reflex. Give it some time to try and do this meditation alone and then let's say after about 20 minutes when you feel like your relaxed as possible, then try your chosen techniques. After you've squeezed the pc, then try to relax that again as much as possible because you will find you can slip even deeper.

Very good question:D

-EDIT be careful because you can force your kundalini open this way and although I think it's mostly safe to do so, I would tread carefully.

I heard a story about a guy who did this kind of technique (with all his points at once) and had a huge awakening, he felt enlightened for about a minute and then a fever came across him and he became really sick...During that week he was in hospital, he thought his bed was a boat and he was floating on the sea to a meet a guy on the island to give him wisdom (which was the other hospital patient). He would have gone into the mental home if it was not for his fever.

[ninja17]

but the fact is that the PC muscles are one of the core muscles that get tightened in the fear reflex.

I dont understand.You mean the pc-muscle tightens when you feel fear?Then whut is the benefit when it does?..

be careful because you can force your kundalini open this way and although I think it's mostly safe to do so, I would tread carefully.

I dont have much knowledge/experience about kundalini yet..so it would be the last thing i would fear=)But you are right.I just can speak from my own experience using that muscle too much you get muscle ache right on your balls=) It was pain cause i exaggerated it one time..so dont do it too much the first time using it..you can increase the use time by time.
As you breath in,visualize golden light(ching-sexual energy) floating from the cosmos through the pc-muscle up your bag above/around your head to the tip of your tongue,then breathe out(slowly) and the chi floats down in your belle,the center.Important is that your tongue touches your palate because that is the connection/bridge which leads the chi in your belle.This is the small energy cycle how i learned it.


I heard a story about a guy who did this kind of technique (with all his points at once) and had a huge awakening, he felt enlightened for about a minute and then a fever came across him and he became really sick...During that week he was in hospital, he thought his bed was a boat and he was floating on the sea to a meet a guy on the island to give him wisdom (which was the other hospital patient). He would have gone into the mental home if it was not for his fever.

Thats not bad:D
But he became sick:confused:
I guess that only maked him stronger with a higher tolerance.

Dont f*** with the chi!:D

[chris]

I dont understand.You mean the pc-muscle tightens when you feel fear?Then whut is the benefit when it does?..

Well fear is a way for the body to react. When you are frightened suddenly, you also stand in a strong stance, you breath deeper, loose blood circulation to the digestive system and gain circulation to the muscles, brain and eye's. Fear is only a bad thing when you are in fear needlessly.

You will also benefit very much from relaxing the PC muscles as much as possible as this will also open vital chi pathways and let it circulate. Then squeeze them like you said and then relax them again as much as possible.

I don't have much experience with Kundalini Yoga so I can't give you much more advice beyond this but I might have to give it a go because you've stirred my interest.

[ninja17]

I never practiced Kundalini Yoga,may be i did some practices from it without knowing it in the time i was in a traditional kung fu school.We practiced there a lot of Qui Gong.You might also wanna check that out if you didnt already.

[octopusrex]

Most ancient meditation?

Being born.

Other useful meditations:

Sitting.
Standing.
Shitting.
Eating.
Speaking.
Being silent.

Fun meditations:
Fucking
Reading
Watching t.v.
Posting on forums.

Matter of fact, we were made to watch GROUNDHOG DAY with Bill Murray at a local Zen monastery once.

[ichi wa zen]

Most ancient meditation?

Being born.

Other useful meditations:

Sitting.
Standing.
Shitting.
Eating.
Speaking.
Being silent.

Fun meditations:
Fucking
Reading
Watching t.v.
Posting on forums.

Matter of fact, we were made to watch GROUNDHOG DAY with Bill Murray at a local Zen monastery once.

Mwuhahahahha funny one mate :D

Yesterday i took a shit, ate some peanuts, read a newspaper and meditated at the same time!!!!! :D

Zen ROCKS!

Before enlightenment: chop wood, carry water.
After enlightenment: chop wood, carry water.

:p

[drakul]

Mwuhahahahha funny one mate :D

Yesterday i took a shit, ate some peanuts, read a newspaper and meditated at the same time!!!!! :D

Zen ROCKS!

Before enlightenment: chop wood, carry water.
After enlightenment: chop wood, carry water.

:p


The most effective meditation for me has been the Buddhist - 10 Breaths. It's amazing, how many times do we breathe every day without being aware of it, but to focus on just 10 complete in and out breaths opens a whole new state of consciousness. Usually when my spouse and I take a walk for example, we reach a certain spot and one of us sez - `Let's do 10 breaths. OK' and we just stand there and follow our breath and it's like the heavans the air the whole world becomes more focused and pure and the sounds, like you're in a sound chamber...

And yes the laying down corpse posture is good but it always puts me to sleep...

[ichi wa zen]

The most effective meditation for me has been the Buddhist - 10 Breaths. It's amazing, how many times do we breathe every day without being aware of it, but to focus on just 10 complete in and out breaths opens a whole new state of consciousness. Usually when my spouse and I take a walk for example, we reach a certain spot and one of us sez - `Let's do 10 breaths. OK' and we just stand there and follow our breath and it's like the heavans the air the whole world becomes more focused and pure and the sounds, like you're in a sound chamber...

And yes the laying down corpse posture is good but it always puts me to sleep...

Yeah, each person should find his own meditation, like they say: there are several ways that lead to Rome :)

Laying corpse posture?!!? Muwhahahh i call that sleeping, when i meditate, i sit Lotus style, spine erect at all times, me being Now and Now being me, its noice.