Sci-Fi novels describing the moon as a spaceship

[unbornawakened]

Has anyone read science fiction novels with this theme ?

A french author with pen name Pierre Suragne wrote a novel back in 1973 called "La Nef Des Dieux" (The Spaceship of Gods). In this novel, the moon is a spaceship of hibernating giant extraterrestrials that got off course, and ended up being captured by Earth.

[guuna]

HEIRS OF EMPIRE by David Weber also features this theory.

THAT HIDEOUS STRENGTH by CS Lewis also alludes to it/:D

[interesting show]

There has been literature describing similar: http://www.enterprisemission.com/Phobos.html

[hadabusa]

wouldnt ickes new book qualify as one?

:confused:

[ambler1980]

wouldnt ickes new book qualify as one?

:confused:

You think Icke's books are science-fiction?

[hadabusa]

You think Icke's books are science-fiction?

yes, novellas.

if you make stuff up and put it in books, or if you redefine previous novels, then, by definition , you wrote a novella.

its not as "novella" as stephen kings books(hes clear in his motives atleast), but, by definition, im not wrong.


a well researched book will list every single source and not have phrases like "i believe" etc.

and twisting old storys to fit ones own agenda isnt a cool thing either.


however, ill laugh my ass through the moon matrix.

its starwars meets neo&morpheus&trinity , it surely has entertainment value.
despite dismissing his own previous work altogether.





:)

[ambler1980]

yes

Then what are you here for?

[guuna]

yes, novellas.

if you make stuff up and put it in books, or if you redefine previous novels, then, by definition , you wrote a novella.

its not as "novella" as stephen kings books(hes clear in his motives atleast), but, by definition, im not wrong.


a well researched book will list every single source and not have phrases like "i believe" etc.

and twisting old storys to fit ones own agenda isnt a cool thing either.


however, ill laugh my ass through the moon matrix.

its starwars meets neo&morpheus&trinity , it surely has entertainment value.
despite dismissing his own previous work altogether.





:)

Well seeing as Stephen King's not got a book coming out any time soon, I hope that means you've placed your order for Human Race Get Off Your knees.

If your going to laugh yer ass off then surely that's 'geld' well spent.:D

[ambler1980]

I don't know...anyone who would buy Icke's books knowing they don't believe them, to laugh their ass off...has a serious problem, and probably has worse things to worry about than blood drinking reptilians.

[hadabusa]

Then what are you here for?

never knew thered be ppl with policies like this feller.

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[choice]

Well seeing as Stephen King's not got a book coming out any time soon,

"Stephen will be releasing a brand new novella entitled Blockade Billy through Cemetery Dance Publications on April 20th 2010. For more information see the links below."

http://www.stephenking.com/index.html

[guuna]

I don't know...anyone who would buy Icke's books knowing they don't believe them, to laugh their ass off...has a serious problem, and probably has worse things to worry about than blood drinking reptilians.

I Cant speak on hadabusas' behalf obviously, but I am assuming he approaches this information rather sceptically.

Personally I can say that from the moment I first picked up THE BIGGEST SECRET, way back in 1999, my opinion and indeed my entire way on looking at the world has changed somewhat.

I'm probably with Icke to 80% of what he says.

I'm a bit sceptical about the moon matrix theory at this stage but still look forward to reading the book.

Infinite Love...will still be a hard act to follow imo.:D

[guuna]

"Stephen will be releasing a brand new novella entitled Blockade Billy through Cemetery Dance Publications on April 20th 2010. For more information see the links below."

http://www.stephenking.com/index.html

apparently SK is due to appear on Alex Jones at some point and is a listener.

[hadabusa]

Well seeing as Stephen King's not got a book coming out any time soon, I hope that means you've placed your order for Human Race Get Off Your knees.

If your going to laugh yer ass off then surely that's 'geld' well spent.:D
well, are you saying king finished the dark tower monumental saga?

because thats the best books ive ever got to read, i stopped at the 5th, bc he got blind and delayed part6
:(


as4moonmatrix(starwars meets neo) , yes, if it has lol-potential, the 50swiss francs wont be missed, ive spent that amount on much dumber things.

:D

[guuna]

well, are you saying king finished the dark tower monumental saga?

because thats the best books ive ever got to read, i stopped at the 5th, bc he got blind and delayed part6
:




as4moonmatrix(starwars meets neo) , yes, if it has lol-potential, the 50swiss francs wont be missed, ive spent that amount on much dumber things.

:D

just watch out for the dodgy translations tO German.

[hadabusa]

just watch out for the dodgy translations tO German.

icke or king?

kings were excellent so far:D

[guuna]

icke or king?

kings were excellent so far:D

King. Is Icke available in German?

[hadabusa]

King. Is Icke available in German?

previous books were availlable in german.

ill read in english,if necessary, tough.

yes, youre right,im just sceptical about the moon thing, most what icke says is cool.

but reincarnated

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(ambler) wouldnt get that.

:cool:

[purple rain]

apparently SK is due to appear on Alex Jones at some point and is a listener.

Now that I want to see. Even though King strikes me as an average mind outside of his novel writing.

[ambler1980]

never knew thered be ppl with policies like this feller.

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I didn't say you couldn't come here. I asked what you were here for. Last I checked that was a reasonable question. Trying to paint me as a Nazi for asking doesn't do you any favors.

[hadabusa]

King strikes me as an average mind

hahaha, this, coming from bottom barrell intelligence midget like you is amazing.


hey ambler, what are you here for?

see,itsa retarded question, pointless.

youll be shocked to find out that theres plenty of non icke appostiles.

[cyclops]

the moon has just such an extremely effect oh the earth and it's . I don't buy that that is 'man-made' or someting. Without the moon life would parrish very soon.

Then the documentaries out buildings etc. on the moon are far more interesting, I think....

[ambler1980]

hey ambler, what are you here for?

see,itsa retarded question, pointless.

youll be shocked to find out that theres plenty of non icke appostiles.

You can stop side stepping an easy question. If you don't want to answer, then tell me you don't want to answer, like an adult (are you?). I don't think it's a retarded question at all, it's a fairly reasonable and harmless one...and I don't think anyone who believes what Icke says is an "apostle", as you call them, which makes no sense by the way (you're thinking of the word "disciple").

You think what Icke talks about is science fiction, meaning you don't believe it. So I'm curious as to why you hang out here. It would be akin to me hanging out in the Miley Cyrus forums when I think her music is crap. Most of your posts seem to be antagonistic and snide, so I'm trying to figure out whether you're just a troll or have an agenda that would be an intelligent and interesting alternative...but so far there's nothing interesting or intelligent about you...but you're free to prove me wrong. Or not, and I've got my answer to the troll question.

[hadabusa]

You can stop side stepping an easy question. If you don't want to answer, then tell me you don't want to answer, like an adult (are you?). I don't think it's a retarded question at all, it's a fairly reasonable and harmless one...and I don't think anyone who believes what Icke says is an "apostle", as you call them, which makes so sense by the way (you're thinking of the word "disciple").

You think what Icke talks about is science fiction, meaning you don't believe it. So I'm curious as to why you hang out here. It would be akin to me hanging out in the Miley Cyrus forums when I think her music is crap. Most of your posts seem to be antagonistic and snide, so I'm trying to figure out whether you're just a troll or have an agenda that would be an intelligent and interesting alternative...but so far there's nothing interesting or intelligent about you...but you're free to prove me wrong. Or not, and I've got my answer to the troll question.

as stated before(you missed it??), i agree with what icke says mostly, just not everything.

and this forum is one of the freest forum with a "cultleader".

example, jref, the sceptics forum, gets you banned quite fast for bs.

ajones gulagplanet forum gets you banned if you arent a jones worshipper.
oxley forum bans everything that moves, i think itsa1man blog by now.

theres forums like pravda where nothing gets banned, but its just a political forum, not much traffic(but great posters)

atleast,i found out about SDR's(in sig), that beats most contributions here itself.

have i explained myself deeply enough before the ambler-council now?

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[ambler1980]

as stated before(you missed it??), i agree with what icke says mostly, just not everything.

yes, novellas.

if you make stuff up and put it in books, or if you redefine previous novels, then, by definition , you wrote a novella.

its not as "novella" as stephen kings books(hes clear in his motives atleast), but, by definition, im not wrong.


a well researched book will list every single source and not have phrases like "i believe" etc.

and twisting old storys to fit ones own agenda isnt a cool thing either.


however, ill laugh my ass through the moon matrix.

its starwars meets neo&morpheus&trinity , it surely has entertainment value.
despite dismissing his own previous work altogether.

This doesn't sound like someone who agrees with Icke mostly.

and this forum is one of the freest forum with a "cultleader".

example, jref, the sceptics forum, gets you banned quite fast for bs.

ajones gulagplanet forum gets you banned if you arent a jones worshipper.
oxley forum bans everything that moves, i think itsa1man blog by now.

theres forums like pravda where nothing gets banned, but its just a political forum, not much traffic(but great posters)

atleast,i found out about SDR's(in sig), that beats most contributions here itself.

have i explained myself deeply enough before the ambler-council now?

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You've got a martyr complex going on.

And you still haven't explained why you come here. You said this is the freest forum with a "cult leader"(?) That's not a reason, that's an excuse, because you only come because you get banned from other similar websites.

You feel David Icke has a cult, and is the leader of this so called cult. Where is it stated anywhere in his books or website that he has started a cult? A cult is a religion or religious sect generally considered to have negative connotations. I don't see how Icke or anything he does, or this website has anything to do with this definition. He has not started a religion. No one follows him anymore than they follow a comedian who's shows they buy tickets to and books they buy.

You can keep putting ridiculous pictures of a headphone wearing Hitler in a desperate attempt to distract from the real issue, and dodging my simple, direct and reasonable question. But you're just digging yourself a deeper hole and outing yourself as a troll in the process, who hasn't been banned from another website...yet.

[purple rain]

hahaha, this, coming from bottom barrell intelligence midget like you is amazing.


hey ambler, what are you here for?

see,itsa retarded question, pointless.

youll be shocked to find out that theres plenty of non icke appostiles.


Sure, when you talk and type like a retard, you're in a position to talk. What a wonderful world it would be if we got our information from brothel owners.

[hadabusa]

ohhhhhh.

if untrue stuff is in a book, it becomes per definition a novella, even if 99percent is true.

thats all i said, and thats true.


as for cult, thats why i typed "cult".

dont be such a drama queen.

i come on here because theres very smart people wich are fun to debatte, intelectually challenging/refreshing.
theres overly paranoid ppl here too, theres insecure ppl and theres deluded ppl , all fine.

and then, theres straightup idiots who see every1as agent.
its good to browse a sceptics forum at times, for maybe theres something to learn, at very least critical,non 1way thinking.

[hadabusa]

Sure, when you talk and type like a retard, you're in a position to talk. What a wonderful world it would be if we got our information from brothel owners.

or a former goalie/sportsreporter,for that matter.

what do you do btw?run an icecream stand?

[ambler1980]

ohhhhhh.

if untrue stuff is in a book, it becomes per definition a novella, even if 99percent is true.

thats all i said, and thats true.


as for cult, thats why i typed "cult".

dont be such a drama queen.

i come on here because theres very smart people wich are fun to debatte, intelectually challenging/refreshing.
theres overly paranoid ppl here too, theres insecure ppl and theres deluded ppl , all fine.

and then, theres straightup idiots who see every1as agent.
its good to browse a sceptics forum at times, for maybe theres something to learn, at very least critical,non 1way thinking.

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[hadabusa]

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:D:D:D:cool:

[purple rain]

or a former goalie/sportsreporter,for that matter.

what do you do btw?run an icecream stand?

Sports reporter, now that is just whoa!!! You must be full of information.

[unbornawakened]

Thanks for contributing to the subject matter of the thread.
HEIRS OF EMPIRE by David Weber also features this theory.

THAT HIDEOUS STRENGTH by CS Lewis also alludes to it/:D

[hadabusa]

Sports reporter, now that is just whoa!!! You must be full of information.

haha, crapforbrains, those were ickes previous jobs, not mine.

[purple rain]

Ok, why bring up Icke at all? I thought you were talking to ambler about Icke. Or did you assume I supported all of Icke's theories so you could belittle me alongside the others. Learn to read, because my comment was about King only.

[_tzupidity]

yes, novellas.

if you make stuff up and put it in books, or if you redefine previous novels, then, by definition , you wrote a novella.

its not as "novella" as stephen kings books(hes clear in his motives atleast), but, by definition, im not wrong.


a well researched book will list every single source and not have phrases like "i believe" etc.

and twisting old storys to fit ones own agenda isnt a cool thing either.


however, ill laugh my ass through the moon matrix.

its starwars meets neo&morpheus&trinity , it surely has entertainment value.
despite dismissing his own previous work altogether.

:)

If Icke's books were pure research and factual then Hadabusa is right. You NEVER get subjective and put "I believe" or "I think". It's factual, you show the facts and draw any conclusions and leave the reader to decide for themselves.

I class Icke's books as Faction. There's a lot of fact in them, undeniable facts. However, a lot of the source books and channelled information are simply not credible. Hence, Faction. Nothing wrong with it and this isn't a put down. Just my opinion having read most of them and a lot of the referenced works. Not channelled any of the spirits though.

[krakhead]

never knew thered be ppl with policies like this feller.

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Godwin's law - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

:rolleyes:

[hadabusa]

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

:rolleyes:

i invoked first,totally guilty.

but more bc the headphones look apt.

i couldve said stalin or mao, thats true.

:)

[_tzupidity]

I think Godwin's Law should be updated and Hitler should be replaced with Wiki.

You guys do realise that anyone can put information on there and it's never checked? Nothing on Wiki is reliable. It has the illusion of fact but none if it is verified and can be changed at any time by any person with an account.

Using wiki is like going out into the street and asking the first person to walk past what they think on any given subject. It is the sum of 'common knowledge'.

The thing I find ironic, is that on this forum and others like it, the MSM is decried as bullshit spreaders. Where do you think common knowledge comes from? MSM > Public > Wiki > Here.

It makes me ride the roflcopter.

Anyway, I vote we update Godwin.

[unbornawakened]

Icke's Law:
"As an online discussion on the David Icke Official Forum grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Reptilians or Lizards approaches 1."

http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Godwin%27s_law

:rolleyes:

[_tzupidity]

Icke's Law:
"As an online discussion on the David Icke Official Forum grows longer, the probability of a comparison involving Reptilians or Lizards approaches 1."

Don't forget the pedophiles.

[unbornawakened]

The pedophiles are reptilians :D
Don't forget the pedophiles.

[_tzupidity]

The pedophiles are reptilians :D

Are all pedophiles reptilians or all reptilians pedophiles?

It's sooooo confusing. :confused:

[unbornawakened]

Both :)
Are all pedophiles reptilians or all reptilians pedophiles?

It's sooooo confusing. :confused:

[_tzupidity]

Both :)

Semi-Back-On-Topic: I saw an episode of the new V series last night and some of the reptilians in that were nice and fighting against the bad ones. I also learnt that if you're a lady, you really, really don't want to get pregnant by one but then if you're gonna pay some guy to break into your fiancee's secret safe then you deserve all you get you cheeky bitch. Maybe there's a real Fifth Column?

[guuna]

Semi-Back-On-Topic: I saw an episode of the new V series last night and some of the reptilians in that were nice and fighting against the bad ones. I also learnt that if you're a lady, you really, really don't want to get pregnant by one but then if you're gonna pay some guy to break into your fiancee's secret safe then you deserve all you get you cheeky bitch. Maybe there's a real Fifth Column?

yeah, that shit-head dude who's moms a cop or whatever. Her son implants his unsuspecting GF with a fookin lizard baby.

still, here in the Uk you's likely get fast-tracked for a coucil house.

[guuna]

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[_tzupidity]

yeah, that shit-head dude who's moms a cop or whatever. Her son implants his unsuspecting GF with a fookin lizard baby.

still, here in the Uk you's likely get fast-tracked for a coucil house.

They changed the rules. You only get a flat for 1-2 crib lizards (unless they're of different fathers of different "racial backgrounds" part of the 'melting pot bonus system'). You need 3+ to get a house these days. Usually a small crappy one.

Realistically you're looking at 5+ kids before you get a nice house. Couple of dogs, 6 cats and at least 2 asbos would help. Many opt for the 'gay kid' or 'disabled kid' option but it risks lots of involvement with "the social".

The life of a modern day peasant is a suprisingly complicated one.

[guuna]

They changed the rules. You only get a flat for 1-2 crib lizards (unless they're of different fathers of different "racial backgrounds" part of the 'melting pot bonus system'). You need 3+ to get a house these days. Usually a small crappy one.

Realistically you're looking at 5+ kids before you get a nice house. Couple of dogs, 6 cats and at least 2 asbos would help. Many opt for the 'gay kid' or 'disabled kid' option but it risks lots of involvement with "the social".

The life of a modern day peasant is a suprisingly complicated one.

Yeah, iF mY GF gets herself up the duff from some Lizard Visitor dude, don't know what I'd do.

My little hybrid reppie stepson at the local comprehensive, just imagine the prejudice he'd face. Still i'm taking it up with Ed Balls just in case.

[zen_anarchy]

While not wholly on the exact path as david ,two books i have read seem to back up davids theory ,one book is philip k dicks VALIS and another was the graphic novel THE INVISIBLES by Grant Morrison.

,strangly enough while writing these books both writers felt they had been contacted from space by intelligent entities ,which was the intent that made them write both of these books which deal with similar ideas to davids current theory.


HERE ARE THE LINKS ON WIKI PEDIA THIS ONE FOR VALIS VALIS - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia AND THIS ONE FOR THE INVISIBLES Barbelith - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

check these books out i'm sure you will find intresting similarities with these stories and davids new theory
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[cluas]

WOW 50 posts, and 5 books-
:o

* Edgar Rice Burroughs wrote an adventure novel, The Moon Maid (1922),

(set in the interior of a postulated hollow Moon which had an atmosphere and was inhabited. In the sequel, The Moon Men, natives of the hollow Moon invade and conquer Earth)

Make that one more :)

[_tzupidity]

While not wholly on the exact path as david ,two books i have read seem to back up davids theory ,one book is philip k dicks VALIS and another was the graphic novel THE INVISIBLES by Grant Morrison.

The Invisibles is an interesting one.

Grant Morrison: It's really simple. The truth of that one is that design staff on The Matrix were given Invisibles collections and told to make the movie look like my books. This is a reported fact. The Wachowskis are comic book creators and fans and were fans of my work, so it's hardly surprising.
My translation being: They ripped me off, loads of people complained, they owned up and credited me and I didn't sue them because now I can sell more copies of the Invisibles innit. Either way, the two are linked and The Matrix is probably the most referenced film in Icke's work after They Live.

Philip K Dick definitely knew something, too. Like J K Rowling, it's more about the worlds they create than the stories that happen within them. Rowling only managed it with one story but Dick wrote nya'lots. I don't believe you can create a world that detailed and consistent unless you're getting great information from somewhere.

Here's some VALIS


It's from an aria by Handel. Fat and I used to listen to my Seraphim LP of Richard Lewis singing it. Deeper, and deeper still.
Once I told Fat that another aria on the record described his mind perfectly.
"Which aria?" Fat said guardedly.
"Total eclipse," I answered.

"Total eclipse! no sun, no moon,
All dark amidst the blaze of noon!
Oh, glorious light! no cheering ray
To glad my eyes with welcome day!
Why thus deprived Thy prime decree?
Sun, moon and stars are dark to me!"

To which Fat said, "The opposite is true in my case. I am illuminated by holy light fired at me from another world. I see what no other man sees."
He had a point there.

[guuna]

WOW 50 posts, and 5 books-
:o

* Edgar Rice Burroughs wrote an adventure novel, The Moon Maid (1922),

(set in the interior of a postulated hollow Moon which had an atmosphere and was inhabited. In the sequel, The Moon Men, natives of the hollow Moon invade and conquer Earth)

Make that one more :)

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[crisitunity]

The obvious one that came to mind for me is the Deathstar, although not identical stories seems at least inspired.

This place is frustrating with all the trolls btw, its infested. Every thread is derailed within three posts it seems by some attention desperate clown who somehow feels better about themselves by mocking other peoples ideas.

Go make a real friend if you are that needy.

[guuna]

yes, i think we got to about 7 books in 53 posts!

[guuna]

Not strictly a book, but there was the tv show Space 1999, in which there is a moonbase on Luna, which is used as a storehouse for volatile nuclear waste, a massive accidental detonation blasts the entire moon into interstellar orbit, the moon then goes on an involuntary 'star trek' and encounters alien civilizations in other solar systems each week.

the show lasted for two seasons, it was created by Gerry Anderson (thunderbirds).

Thus the moon in this was a kind of a 'spaceship'.

[cluas]

Yeah hundreds of tv shows and movies, but that's a bit off topic :p

[guuna]

Yeah hundreds of tv shows and movies, but that's a bit off topic :p

err...not off topic actually.

Lets see. Space 1999, a tv show about the moon being blasted out of the Earth's orbit, and discovering alien civilizations as it enters other solar systems, thus the moon is a spaceship.

oh yeah, and a novel based on the tv show Space 1999.http://i836.photobucket.com/albums/zz283/guuna/n14196space1999.jpg

[nutrition]

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