Did this happen to you?

[blue]

Hi guys,

a little about me to get it started. im from india and i first heard about david icke almost 2 years ago. i found his ebook "the book that will change the world" though a p2p sharing from another person. i downloaded it, as the name was so different. i then contacted the person through the p2p and asked him about the book. he then allowed me to download other books and articles by david. so i read his book daily page by page and every time i sleep i got strange dreams, like people dying especially of heart attack. and one dream i saw that stallone had heart attack (god forbid not). so i told the guy about the dream and he said that the reptilians use such forms as heart attack to enter your dreams and scare you. he even told me to be strong and medidate. so im asking that is there anyone who got strange dreams after reading davids books or any strange events that took place.

thanks

[gorgeousbutterfly]

oh god. you should see my post on the reptilian forum, they used scare tactics on me too and on some others who started to read the book, i find it quite amaizng that we are all experiencing the the same thing while reading the book. while i was reading i had a reptilians photo manifest out of nowhere on my computer to scare me and they talked to me in my head. very scary :( it all stops when i stop reading the book. so i am going slow with reading that.

[chattanova]

oh god. you should see my post on the reptilian forum, they used scare tactics on me too and on some others who started to read the book, i find it quite amaizng that we are all experiencing the the same thing while reading the book. while i was reading i had a reptilians photo manifest out of nowhere on my computer to scare me and they talked to me in my head. very scary :( it all stops when i stop reading the book. so i am going slow with reading that.

What book exactly ? :confused:

[gorgeousbutterfly]

book of secrets. i also heard helicopter sounds in my head all day long.

[kasalt]

Hi guys,

a little about me to get it started. im from india and i first heard about david icke almost 2 years ago. i found his ebook "the book that will change the world" though a p2p sharing from another person. i downloaded it, as the name was so different. i then contacted the person through the p2p and asked him about the book. he then allowed me to download other books and articles by david. so i read his book daily page by page and every time i sleep i got strange dreams, like people dying especially of heart attack. and one dream i saw that stallone had heart attack (god forbid not). so i told the guy about the dream and he said that the reptilians use such forms as heart attack to enter your dreams and scare you. he even told me to be strong and medidate. so im asking that is there anyone who got strange dreams after reading davids books or any strange events that took place.

thanks

Hello blue, and welcome to the forum!

It's very interesting that you would mention this about dreams. In Richard Thompson's book, Alien Identities, he writes the following:

"Among the Vedic humanoids, there are a number of groups that are predominantly in the mode of ignorance. These are broadly known as Bhutas (a term which, appropriately enough, can be translated as 'entities'). They include the Pisacas, Yaksas, Raksasas, and Vinayakas, as well as the Dakinis, Yatudhanis, and Kusmandas. These beings are said to live in subtle form on the earth and in the region immediately above the earth's atmosphere. They are known for their mystic powers, including the power of suddenly appearing and disappearing in gross material form. It is said in the Bhagavata Purana that these beings are known for causing trouble to the body and the senses. They also cause of memory and bad dreams..."

http://www.mystae.com/restricted/streams/scripts/devas.html

Do you chant any vedic mantras?

[gorgeousbutterfly]

it could of just been a bad dream, having nothing to do with the reptiles.

[kasalt]

it could of just been a bad dream, having nothing to do with the reptiles.

Hi gorgeous :)

Perhaps so, but if you are having a variety of psychic attacks all of a sudden when reading Icke's book, it sounds to me like it could be more than that. What do you think about it now, based on your experiences?

[gorgeousbutterfly]

i think mine was a psychic attack yes, scarriest experience of my life... but i was talking blue's dream, since he isn't having MANY symptoms like me, it could of been just a dream.

[rossus]

"evil" cannot hurt you.

it is like being affraid of getting stung by a bee.
a bee is so small that it might sting you a little, but it cannot kill or really hurt you. so why be affraid?

it is the same with the evil stuff.
if you believe that it is big and dangerous, you will be affraid.

but if you would actually look the fear in the eye,
you will see there's nothing to be affraid of.

if you participate in fear, a whole world of evil can manifest in front of your eyes.
if you keep your trust in love and just see what is with an open heart... there's no evil.

evil cannot exist you without your belief in it.
life is like a test for your love.

you meet all possible demons: lust, desire, pain, fear or evil physical illusions such as dead people, demons or reptilians.
if you love, you see they're just illusions.

[catfood]

It might not be a attack on you, but rather when we are going fro mental and spiritual changes this can reflect in are dreams. You might have dreams of people dying, chase dreams ore violent dreams.
After reading David’s book your view on a lot of stuff might have been changing and this wud be reflected in your dreams.
Most things, events and people you encounter in your dreams are representations of parts of your self, unless you’re having clear light or lucid dreams.
Don’t be sacred it’s a good thing aspects of ourselves have to be shed to allow are selves to be truly free.
;)

[spacegurl]

David Icke's books influence a lot of people, and particularly the gullible who start seeing reptiles.

[gorgeousbutterfly]

ummm actually i am not guilliable, i am very skeptic , i am still skeptic that i actually saw what i saw. i am just very open. at the time i was reading it i was just open for them being real and then thats what happened. oh and i didn't even beileve what i was reading i BELIEVED IT MORE after the psychic attack.

[albie]

So the reptiles WANTED you to believe?

Derren brown would know why you had these experiences...

[spacegurl]

ummm actually i an not guilliable, i am very skeptic , i am still skeptic that i actually saw what i saw. i am just very open. at the time i was reading it i was just open for them being real and then thats what happened.


Now I didn't actually say it was you that was gullible unless you agree that you must be. Your reaction after reading David Icke's book was unsceptical and exactly the point I'm making. I also read his books (I read them objectively) and didn't see reptiles. The books have conditioned lots of people to the point they're hallucinating and feeling scared of reptiles. That means these people have traits of gullibility. I'm sure they didn't experience it before reading Icke books. That is what they are.

[albie]

I've never had such experiences with Icke, but THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES had me haunted by rapping noises until I finished the book.

[joss classey]

book of secrets. i also heard helicopter sounds in my head all day long.

shit i had that too

[catfood]

David Icke's books influence a lot of people, and particularly the gullible who start seeing reptiles.

I wud consider sum one who thought this physical existence is all their is to reality more gullible then sum one who has seen reptiles,
Whether you believe them ore not is up to you.

If you don’t have an open mind it is only you who will miss out.:rolleyes:

[lenejento]

Hi guys,

a little about me to get it started. im from india and i first heard about david icke almost 2 years ago. i found his ebook "the book that will change the world" though a p2p sharing from another person. i downloaded it, as the name was so different. i then contacted the person through the p2p and asked him about the book. he then allowed me to download other books and articles by david. so i read his book daily page by page and every time i sleep i got strange dreams, like people dying especially of heart attack. and one dream i saw that stallone had heart attack (god forbid not). so i told the guy about the dream and he said that the reptilians use such forms as heart attack to enter your dreams and scare you. he even told me to be strong and medidate. so im asking that is there anyone who got strange dreams after reading davids books or any strange events that took place.

thanks

Hi Blue, welcome to the forum :)

When I first started reading Ickes stuff I had alot of dreams, wierd dreams that didn't make sense. So for fun I actually started looking up dream interpretation, and actually discovered that it was quite accurate for how I was really feeling, and it was connecting me more to my subconscious. My dreams are VERY symbolic when I have a normal dream.(I'm still open to dream interpretation being bullshit though, as dreams are a mysterious thing to me). At /www.dreammoods.com/dreamdictionary/ it says that to dream that you have a heart attack, refers to a lack of support and acceptance, perhaps you also feel a loss of love. Since in your dream other people were having heart attacs maybe you subconsciously feel that people in general including celebrities experiences this? Sometimes I think Icke can go on in his rants about the general population, and it can give a feeling of lack of empathy.

[spacegurl]

I wud consider sum one who thought this physical existence is all their is to reality more gullible then sum one who has seen reptiles,
Whether you believe them ore not is up to you.

If you don’t have an open mind it is only you who will miss out.:rolleyes:

LOL

Do you realise how childish and ridiculous that sounds? It goes to show the mentality of those suffering delusions after reading a book.

[strider]

I've never had such experiences with Icke, but THE MOTHMAN PROPHECIES had me haunted by rapping noises until I finished the book.

WOW, You can actually read... I took you all wrong as well :rolleyes:

[spacegurl]

I wud consider sum one who thought this physical existence is all their is to reality more gullible then sum one who has seen reptiles,
Whether you believe them ore not is up to you.

If you don’t have an open mind it is only you who will miss out.:rolleyes:

Oh by the way, you accuse someone of being rational of " not having an open mind " when you retorted to playground insults and considering that daft signature you've got (not sure if you realise how apt it describes yourself). Besides which it doesn't matter what an illiterate poster such as yourself thinks. The truth hurts. Anyone who hallucinates and hears things after reading a book is classified under the definition of gullible or even Schizophrenic. That wasn't an insult but a fact.

[catfood]

Ok calm down,
Every one is entitled to ther opinions and I totally agree that resulting to insults is counter productive but isn’t it just that that started this hole thing in the first plays.
I apologise if I have upset you. And I apologise for my pure spelling.
:):):)

[catfood]

If sum one tells you that thay have seen reptiles their not gullible. If you believe them without any evidence your gullible.

[mountain]

Greetings, Blue! I have had somewhat of an unusual experience prior to reading David's books. In my early years I have had an interest in UFOs. As I became a teen, begin to have astral attacks and abductions (I have an implant) and have seen a few ships. By the time I reached 20 years of age, was very confused and in the midst of depression about everything. I had read a few hundred books by then, on every topic.

I was at the book seller with a friend looking for a new astrology book, and David's Children of the Matrix called to me. I remember reading this book and feeling strange tingles, as some of the things David touched on resonated with me. There have always been strange phenomenon in my presence or others that I know, but somehow it had intensified. I completely shook off the fear that haunted me for so long. Suddenly, I begin to have lucid dreams, where the beasts that were chasing me for years had become frightened of me. Now most of my dreams I am fully conscious and I believe that everyone has this ability, but it lies dormant from blockages of the mind.

I believe that David's books assisted me in liberating my mind and my thinking, and that is what I have been wanting most of my life.

[spacegurl]

If sum one tells you that thay have seen reptiles their not gullible. If you believe them without any evidence your gullible.

Fair enough I accept your apology. People that see supernatural reptiles soon after reading Icke's material is basically a conditioned people = gullible. Masses of people who supported the troops in Iraq were gullible enough to believe what they read in newspapers, which was biased and told complete lies. A gullible person is someone who really believes so and so is evil because they heard the stories and got frightened.

[mariag]

Hi guys,

a little about me to get it started. im from india and i first heard about david icke almost 2 years ago. i found his ebook "the book that will change the world" though a p2p sharing from another person. i downloaded it, as the name was so different. i then contacted the person through the p2p and asked him about the book. he then allowed me to download other books and articles by david. so i read his book daily page by page and every time i sleep i got strange dreams, like people dying especially of heart attack. and one dream i saw that stallone had heart attack (god forbid not). so i told the guy about the dream and he said that the reptilians use such forms as heart attack to enter your dreams and scare you. he even told me to be strong and medidate. so im asking that is there anyone who got strange dreams after reading davids books or any strange events that took place.

thanks

Now when you mention it ,so yes I have had several strange things happening. The worst was when a bunch of 15 - 20 Jehovas Witnesses came to my yard .where I live . They stopped me and told me that the end was near and I should be aware and strong.Beacause bad things are comming soon. They told me that my relatives could be pedofiles etc...
Then I had a strange dream about formations in the sky.explosion ,windows breaking.
A frog sat outside my frontdoor that very same day the jehovas was there.

[chandrakavi]

Hi guys,

a little about me to get it started. im from india and i first heard about david icke almost 2 years ago. i found his ebook "the book that will change the world" though a p2p sharing from another person. i downloaded it, as the name was so different. i then contacted the person through the p2p and asked him about the book. he then allowed me to download other books and articles by david. so i read his book daily page by page and every time i sleep i got strange dreams, like people dying especially of heart attack. and one dream i saw that stallone had heart attack (god forbid not). so i told the guy about the dream and he said that the reptilians use such forms as heart attack to enter your dreams and scare you. he even told me to be strong and medidate. so im asking that is there anyone who got strange dreams after reading davids books or any strange events that took place.

thanks

Hi BLUE, welcome aboard!
The Mystic Osho has a meditation, that if you are interested you might
want to try it.
When you are in the middle of a dream, say: THIS IS A DREAM
and you will wake up immediatly from that irreality,
it is like pushing ESCAPE in your keyboard,
and you will get out of those bad dreams,
saying THIS IS A DREAM, will wake you up to your positive side
try it, if you want, it will be good for you.
INFINITE LOVE TO YOU AND YOUR POSITIVE DREAMS

P.D. David Icke's books are all interesting, but you must understand
that in some of his books HE SHOWS ONLY THE PROBLEM WITH THE NWO, like THE BIGGEST SECRET, and there are other books of David Icke where he gives YOU THE SOLUTION, like I AM ME I AM FREE, and others, unite both things the problem and the solution is what will prevent the NWO from gaining power. WE ARE THE MANY, THEY ARE THE FEW, and we are responsible for creating our reality.
LOVE, AND THE VERY BEST TO YOU

[albie]

WOW, You can actually read... I took you all wrong as well :rolleyes:


Consider yourself reported.

[whitenight639]

Yes you set of the alarm in the mod room, i spilled my coffee!
can we leave out the insults and settle our differences without them please.

[anna]

Hi Blue ~ I've never had anything strange happen to me, but I certainly don't dispute what someone else says they are experiencing. I believe there are far stranger things going on than we realize. :confused:

[blue]

A big thanks for all of you here for sharing your experiences and thoughts. its so good to see how people have experienced reading davids books.

Kasalt, yes i've heard about the Pisacas, Yaksas, Raksasas, and Vinayakas, as well as the Dakinis, Yatudhanis, and Kusmandas. These are mainly from the hindu culture. In muslims, we have the Jinns, the good ones and the bad ones. the bad ones can cause great trouble to the mind and the body. In india you get to hear about this from many people. well i dont chant any vedic mantras as of now.

I had to add a little more to this. The person whom i met on p2p was from australia, the southern part. and i now remember that he said "the australians are more tuned to these things such as reptilians because they have some muscle in the back which is a bit elongated or different from other humans on other countries. i cannot remember exactly since its been more than 2 years now, but it sounded more like the back bone which is different than others. any one know exactly what it means.

And i've decided to read the book once again slowly to see if i encounter any such dreams.

[whitenight639]

A big thanks for all of you here for sharing your experiences and thoughts. its so good to see how people have experienced reading davids books.

Kasalt, yes i've heard about the Pisacas, Yaksas, Raksasas, and Vinayakas, as well as the Dakinis, Yatudhanis, and Kusmandas. These are mainly from the hindu culture. In muslims, we have the Jinns, the good ones and the bad ones. the bad ones can cause great trouble to the mind and the body. In india you get to hear about this from many people. well i dont chant any vedic mantras as of now.

I had to add a little more to this. The person whom i met on p2p was from australia, the southern part. and i now remember that he said "the australians are more tuned to these things such as reptilians because they have some muscle in the back which is a bit elongated or different from other humans on other countries. i cannot remember exactly since its been more than 2 years now, but it sounded more like the back bone which is different than others. any one know exactly what it means.

And i've decided to read the book once again slowly to see if i encounter any such dreams.

some people have slight tails that are an extra vertabra i believe, I dont know if all aussies have them tho! or do you mean natives?

[indigo]

Come to think of it, I had alot of obe's when I was reading the biggest secret, but nothing as bad as I experienced in my sheeple days.

[28th kingdom]

Stop doing drugs... and you'll probably be better off.

[real6]

Now I didn't actually say it was you that was gullible unless you agree that you must be. Your reaction after reading David Icke's book was unsceptical and exactly the point I'm making. I also read his books (I read them objectively) and didn't see reptiles. The books have conditioned lots of people to the point they're hallucinating and feeling scared of reptiles. That means these people have traits of gullibility. I'm sure they didn't experience it before reading Icke books. That is what they are.

Well has anyone ever thought that maybe David Icke is a Reptile and somehow thru his writing, people are being brainwashed into believing about their exsistance?

Im not saying he is at all, but its a good thing to think about.

[bigus_dickus]

Well has anyone ever thought that maybe David Icke is a Reptile and somehow thru his writing, people are being brainwashed into believing about their exsistance?

Im not saying he is at all, but its a good thing to think about.

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