Islam

[lcr123]

i am going to post up websites here giving out information about Islam, it appears as if a lot of people are getting their knickers in a twist when it comes to The Religion. read before you judge:

so here the first batch goes:
www.Islam-online.net
www.Islamqa.com
http://www.islamtomorrow.com/
www.answering-christianity.com

Just to let you know, when i Defend my Religion on this forum i don't purposely set out to hurt anyone, i just want people to open up their hearts, ears and eyes because i care, not only of what people think of The Religion but it would be nice for people to have what i have when it comes to faith.

from lcr123, the Muslimah!!!

[truth finder]

:rolleyes:

[picha]

Why is it considered a waste of space to let muslimahs pray in the mosque with the men?































Because they all go straight to hell anyway.

[farros]

The truly religious man doesnt need religion.

In other words, the closer one understands god, the less he needs a label to tell him so. He is able to operate 'religiously' without the dividing stigma of a label such as jew, muslim, hindu etc.

The idea that man is alone in the universe is laughable, so if intelligent life exists somewhere else in the cosmos, how can "gods word" which many a religious person will tell you is there faith.. apply to beings from another planet?

Is it only earthlings who have the fortune to have holy books to guide them back to god? What of the rest of the universe who know not of the bible et al?

What fortune Earth had to have been visited by Jesus... his one and only son visiting earth? out of the near infinate number of systems in existence? laughable and primitive is this understanding if christianity is the 'only path of salvation' which im sure applies to islam too.

To awaken is holy, to beleive is mundane.
To awaken is what the saints intended, to beleive is what they warned against.

The awake man is aware that god cares not for labels.

[orlibonurb]

http://www.investigateislam.com/english/

[thereisonlywe]

The truly religious man doesnt need religion.

In other words, the closer one understands god, the less he needs a label to tell him so. He is able to operate 'religiously' without the dividing stigma of a label such as jew, muslim, hindu etc.

The idea that man is alone in the universe is laughable, so if intelligent life exists somewhere else in the cosmos, how can "gods word" which many a religious person will tell you is there faith.. apply to beings from another planet?

Is it only earthlings who have the fortune to have holy books to guide them back to god? What of the rest of the universe who know not of the bible et al?

What fortune Earth had to have been visited by Jesus... his one and only son visiting earth? out of the near infinate number of systems in existence? laughable and primitive is this understanding if christianity is the 'only path of salvation' which im sure applies to islam too.

To awaken is holy, to beleive is mundane.
To awaken is what the saints intended, to beleive is what they warned against.

The awake man is aware that god cares not for labels.

yes farros; Religion is not about accepting labels. However, following our own mind rather than prophets' advises slows us down in our spiritual development. If there was no point in sending prophets, then the all-knowing One would not have done that.

Love&Peace

[farros]

yes farros; Religion is not about accepting labels. However, following our own mind rather than prophets' advises slows us down in our spiritual development. If there was no point in sending prophets, then the all-knowing One would not have done that.

Love&Peace

Well a certain part of spiritual evolution comes from dealing with the choices you make by your own free will. Learning through mistakes/consequences etc.. following a guru or holy man is good, but we should not take everything he says as gospel nor should we follow the words of just one guru, but of a variety of wisdom teachings, keeping what we resonate with and discarding what we dont.

[decode reality]

The truly religious man doesnt need religion.

In other words, the closer one understands god, the less he needs a label to tell him so. He is able to operate 'religiously' without the dividing stigma of a label such as jew, muslim, hindu etc.

The idea that man is alone in the universe is laughable, so if intelligent life exists somewhere else in the cosmos, how can "gods word" which many a religious person will tell you is there faith.. apply to beings from another planet?

Is it only earthlings who have the fortune to have holy books to guide them back to god? What of the rest of the universe who know not of the bible et al?

What fortune Earth had to have been visited by Jesus... his one and only son visiting earth? out of the near infinate number of systems in existence? laughable and primitive is this understanding if christianity is the 'only path of salvation' which im sure applies to islam too.

To awaken is holy, to beleive is mundane.
To awaken is what the saints intended, to beleive is what they warned against.

The awake man is aware that god cares not for labels.

Absolutely.

[majix]

i am going to post up websites here giving out information about Islam, it appears as if a lot of people are getting their knickers in a twist when it comes to The Religion. read before you judge:

so here the first batch goes:
www.Islam-online.net
www.Islamqa.com
http://www.islamtomorrow.com/
www.answering-christianity.com

Just to let you know, when i Defend my Religion on this forum i don't purposely set out to hurt anyone, i just want people to open up their hearts, ears and eyes because i care, not only of what people think of The Religion but it would be nice for people to have what i have when it comes to faith.

from lcr123, the Muslimah!!!

While I’m experiencing the opposite to what Islam claims, you can jump up and down till the cows come running home telling me otherwise. If anybody can stop the extremist Islam and Islamic people can but that’s not happening is it?

[thereisonlywe]

Well a certain part of spiritual evolution comes from dealing with the choices you make by your own free will. Learning through mistakes/consequences etc.. following a guru or holy man is good, but we should not take everything he says as gospel nor should we follow the words of just one guru, but of a variety of wisdom teachings, keeping what we resonate with and discarding what we dont.

farros, you should learn the distinction between a prophet and guru. A prophet is a perfect man (7th stage of Nafs). A guru may well be someone with his/her Inspired Self (3rd stage out of 7 to wholeness).

Being a perfect man, what a prophet advises to all must be taken as the advice of God (in that case you can't say person's advice doesn' fit you.).

P.S: You may check the third lesson in our website for degrees of Nafs.

Love&Peace

[picha]

farros, you should learn the distinction between a prophet and guru. A prophet is a perfect man (7th stage of Nafs). A guru may well be someone with his/her Inspired Self (3rd stage out of 7 to wholeness).

Being a perfect man, what a prophet advises to all must be taken as the advice of God (in that case you can't say person's advice doesn' fit you.).

P.S: You may check the third lesson in our website for degrees of Nafs.

Love&Peace

Since I do not believe in god, do you believe I am 'the vilest of animals' as stated in the koran? Yes or no.

[lcr123]

Why is it considered a waste of space to let muslimahs pray in the mosque with the men?































Because they all go straight to hell anyway.

that is not the reason why you idiot.

[lcr123]

While I’m experiencing the opposite to what Islam claims, you can jump up and down till the cows come running home telling me otherwise. If anybody can stop the extremist Islam and Islamic people can but that’s not happening is it?

you need to get a reality check if you are experiencing the complete opposite. It's because, your dumb, deaf and blind, it is not hard to distinguish truth from falsehood, and if you can't do that then there is something wrong with you and not Islam.

[lcr123]

The truly religious man doesnt need religion.

In other words, the closer one understands god, the less he needs a label to tell him so. He is able to operate 'religiously' without the dividing stigma of a label such as jew, muslim, hindu etc.

The idea that man is alone in the universe is laughable, so if intelligent life exists somewhere else in the cosmos, how can "gods word" which many a religious person will tell you is there faith.. apply to beings from another planet?

Is it only earthlings who have the fortune to have holy books to guide them back to god? What of the rest of the universe who know not of the bible et al?

What fortune Earth had to have been visited by Jesus... his one and only son visiting earth? out of the near infinate number of systems in existence? laughable and primitive is this understanding if christianity is the 'only path of salvation' which im sure applies to islam too.

To awaken is holy, to beleive is mundane.
To awaken is what the saints intended, to beleive is what they warned against.

The awake man is aware that god cares not for labels.

hey, what's up? being religious means that you do What God Tells you to, and by doing so you get closer To God, and how would you know of what God Wants of you untill you follow a religion. Think about it.

[lcr123]

http://www.investigateislam.com/english/

http://www.muslim-responses.com/investigate_islam__christian_prince_

[farros]

hey, what's up? being religious means that you do What God Tells you to, and by doing so you get closer To God, and how would you know of what God Wants of you untill you follow a religion. Think about it.

Well to evolve is to get closer to god. A person doesnt need god to tell him the things he needs to do in order to evolve himself. No-one but the individual knows. Teaching people to think for themselfs is more important than teaching them how and what to think.

and imo religion bogs a person down in rules, the essence of growth is clouded in 'do this 3 times a day, do this with your hair' these are the trivial details which arent neccessary for higher consciousness.

[picha]

hey, what's up? being religious means that you do What God Tells you to, and by doing so you get closer To God, and how would you know of what God Wants of you untill you follow a religion. Think about it.

Do you think this applies to Islam. if not why not?

http://coasm.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/break-the-cycle.jpg

[lcr123]

Do you think this applies to Islam. if not why not?

http://coasm.files.wordpress.com/2009/06/break-the-cycle.jpg

http://www.islamicity.com/science/
http://www.scienceislam.com/
http://www.ummah.net/directory/menu/science.html
http://www.answering-christianity.com/ac3.htm#links

[thereisonlywe]

Well to evolve is to get closer to god. A person doesnt need god to tell him the things he needs to do in order to evolve himself. No-one but the individual knows. Teaching people to think for themselfs is more important than teaching them how and what to think.

and imo religion bogs a person down in rules, the essence of growth is clouded in 'do this 3 times a day, do this with your hair' these are the trivial details which arent neccessary for higher consciousness.

Sorry my friend, but that road leads to being your own god, like the Phaorah in Moses' time. It won't let you evolve in any way since ego will run in your blood.

Love&Peace

[thereisonlywe]

Since I do not believe in god, do you believe I am 'the vilest of animals' as stated in the koran? Yes or no.

The phrase "vilest of animals" is not a mockery. It is a fact. Allah knows you from inside out. He knows you more than you know yourself. We can't say you proved it otherwise for being not a peacemaker.

Love&Peace

[majix]

you need to get a reality check if you are experiencing the complete opposite. It's because, your dumb, deaf and blind, it is not hard to distinguish truth from falsehood, and if you can't do that then there is something wrong with you and not Islam.

You can call me what ever you like but facts stand as proof.

[picha]

The phrase "vilest of animals" is not a mockery. It is a fact. Allah knows you from inside out. He knows you more than you know yourself. We can't say you proved it otherwise for being not a peacemaker.

Love&Peace

So I am the vilest of animals then according to Islam. So I was in fact correct about not thinking there can be any peace with it. The good thing is that western countries posess the necessary firepower to deal with you in the way you need to be, and then some.

[mightyoak]

So I am the vilest of animals then according to Islam. So I was in fact correct about not thinking there can be any peace with it. The good thing is that western countries posess the neccesary firepower to deal with you in the way you need to be, and then some.

Off course you are picha. You could smited at the neck for your opposition to the word of allah And they, muslims ! say there is no compulsion SICK FCUKing religion Straight from the devil himself....

[loveisthelaw]

So I am the vilest of animals then according to Islam.

This is not true - you are not the vilest of animals because you do not believe in God, nor in Islam. One becomes the vilest of animals due to the works they perform and the words they utter, which is merely a reflection of what is in their heart.

Can you share with me the text that states you are a vile animal so I can review it and perhaps give you a more correct answer?

And please watch your statements about fire power - one should not complain about wars and fighting when their only solution can be summed up as the same.

regards

[loveisthelaw]

Off course you are picha. You could smited at the neck for your opposition to the word of allah And they, muslims ! say there is no compulsion SICK FCUKing religion Straight from the devil himself....

Then why is he, and why are you still alive if Muslims are such barbarians? Trust me, it is easy enough to find where people live via the internet.

Yet the fact you are still alive and speaking your mind shows that what you claim to be a reality is indeed simply the matrix.

[picha]

This is not true - you are not the vilest of animals because you do not believe in God, nor in Islam. One becomes the vilest of animals due to the works they perform and the words they utter, which is merely a reflection of what is in their heart.

Can you share with me the text that states you are a vile animal so I can review it and perhaps give you a more correct answer?

And please watch your statements about fire power - one should not complain about wars and fighting when their only solution can be summed up as the same.

regards

Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs


(Lo! the worst of beasts) of created beings (in Allah's sight are the ungrateful) Banu Qurayzah and others (who will not believe) in Muhammad (pbuh) and in the Qur'an;

[loveisthelaw]

Tanwîr al-Miqbâs min Tafsîr Ibn ‘Abbâs


(Lo! the worst of beasts) of created beings (in Allah's sight are the ungrateful) Banu Qurayzah and others (who will not believe) in Muhammad (pbuh) and in the Qur'an;

Thanks :)

8:55 For the worst of beasts in the sight of Allah are those who reject Him: They will not believe.
8:56 They are those with whom thou didst make a covenant, but they break their covenant every time, and they have not the fear.

[lcr123]

You can call me what ever you like but facts stand as proof.

Islam is fact, look at the belief system.

[picha]

Islam is fact, look at the belief system.

And its fact because it says so in the koran, and the koran is the word of god.
No circular reasoning whatsoever to be found there.

[thereisonlywe]

And its fact because it says so in the koran, and the koran is the word of god.
No circular reasoning whatsoever to be found there.

Here is a depiction of circular logic of yours:

while (5senses==true) {
if (madness==false && iq>=100)
InformationObtainedFromSenses==true;
}

Love&Peace

[majix]

Islam is fact, look at the belief system.

Will you stop with the bull.
Christianity is fact if you ask Christians Buddhism is fact if you ask a Buddhist. Why cant you understand there is no such a thing as religious fact. According to common belief there is only one god, so why is that one god your god? Its just a stupid and illogical idea. The whole damn religion is illogical if you ask me.