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dondaz
17-02-2007, 05:03 PM
I'm sick of these so-called websites that claim they want our opinions on matters that concern us.

This is a letter I wrote to LeaveThemKidsAlone. Do you think they would post it on their website?

Am I too contraversal?

Leave My Kids Alone - Darren Pollard

After learning what is happening at schools accross the uk from the website www.leavethemkidsalone.com (http://www.leavethemkidsalone.com/), I wish to inform you that Welsh House Farm Rd School in Quinton, Birmingham, has biometric fingerprinting technology.

I have personally seen this equipment (Biometric Fingerprint scanner) inside the school, which was, along with a barcode book scanner, plugged into the computer that is used to log library books.

I spoke right away with the head teacher, Mrs Cowen, who said that they had no intention of taking our childrens fingerprints. I pointed out the fact that there is a Biometric Fingerprint scanner sitting on a desk right outside her office.

"We dont use that. We wouldn't take childrens fingerprints without parents permission."

I have made it quite clear that my children are not aloud to be fingerprinted, eyescanned or microchipped.

I left her office and promtly informed other parents, pointing out the fingerprint scanning device so as to inform them of the situation.

Many parents are rightly incensed at this intrusion on the lives, privacy and liberty of their innocent children and so am I.

I decided a course of action was needed.

I petitioned 10 Downing Street 'We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Stop schools taking childrens finger prints without parental permission.'

I sought legal advice from Human Rights solicitors regarding my childrens privacy and biometric technology at the school, and have been told that if there are laws legislating the use of fingerprint scanning, then legally they would have to be granted the legal permission from parents, and only then if a childs fingerprints are taken without parental consent, can action to taken against the schools.

I also consulted on the legal issues of health and safety and sharing infomation in a public place, peacefully, and I have been told by Human Rights solicitors, that I have every legal right to do so.

I made a billboard.

I made a couple of graphics and printed some of the articles from www.leavethemkidsalone.com (http://www.leavethemkidsalone.com/).

Yesterday afternoon, 29th Jan 06, I stood ouside my children's school with this info I had gathered and spoke to some of the parents. I was very suprised as to the lack of infomation many parents have regarding biometric technology.

Just before I was about to go home with my noticeboard and kids in tow, along came the police.

Two Community Policemen, who I have spoken to on many occaisions regarding projects for the kids in the Quinton area, as I have worked as a mentor with excluded and margialised teenagers over the years.

They were polite and I explained the situation with the school. As most of the parents had picked up their children, and after they had taken a photograph of me and my notice board, I was allowed to go (I had my 8 month old son with me, in his pushchair of course).

The next morning I was back outside the school advising parents as to what was going on.

Many parents are not very happy with the idea of the school fingerprinting their children. Many of these parents do not understand the finer details and implications of biometric technology and are really uninformed on this subject.

Many parents were also very pleased that I had brought this to their attention, apart from one parent who I had never seen before. She claims that I was scaring her child. Again I had my 8 month old son with me. There were wittnesses present who saw this woman (provocateer?) try to create an issue with me.

I wasn't there to argue, but to inform.

The police arrived again. Different officers this time and threatened to take the camera away from my partner if she didn't stop filmimg whilst they spoke to me. They were very insistant that there was to be no filming!

After explaining the situation to the officers they made it clear that every time I have my notice board with me outside the school, the head teacher, Mrs Cowen, would call the police on me.

I got the impression that these officers were not going to leave me alone unless I went away with my notice board, which I did after some grilling from the officer who did most of the talking and veild threats of arrest (scaring children was hinted at).

What I was doing outside my childrens school was peacefull, legal and the right thing to do.

As for all the excuses being peddled to get people to submit to this: It's just for kids who havent yet learned to write their names; 'It's to monitor immigrants because they move around the country.' one parent was told.

I don't but into this one bit.

I know this is all leading up to get us microchipped in the next few years and so do the powers that be. I know they are trying to sneak these biometrics into our lives because they know we wont stand for it if we really knew what was planned further down the road.

Jack Straw has said that parents have obviously accepted it, this isn't the case. I have have not accepted and will never accept the treatment of children as criminals.

I believe biometric technologies being used against our children is criminal and we should stand up to these bullies in our schools, the companies that peddle this technology and the snide polititions who back them by staying silent about the whole thing.

A couple of days later I sat with my 8 year old son to read his school book with him.

The book was called Bomb Scare!

The story was about a boy who saw a bomb scare on television, then went to the park with his friends and saw a package sitting on a park bench with wires sticking out (sounds familier).

Basically this story is mind manipulation propaganda in order to indoctrinate children into becoming paranoid and suspicious of their world around them.

I wouldn't let my son finish the book and took it back to the school the next day. I politely explained my thoughts to the teacher and said the book wasn't appropriate and was intended to plant seeds of fear into his mind.

The next day I was again speaking to one of the community police officers about a summer workshop project I am trying to raise funds for, when out of the blue he started talking about the 8 people who had been arrested for allegedly plotting to behead a british muslim soldier here in Birmingham. I have never spoken to this officer about my feelings on the war on terror, so it was a total suprise when he brought this up.

'This proves that there is terrorism in our communities.' he laughed.

I immeadiately put two and two together.

Someone at my childrens school informed the police that I had brought the Bomb Scare book back and complained.

Is this a coincidence I ask myself?

Clearly the powers that be and their servants are desperately trying to cover this whole thing up. The head teacher knows I am not interested in talking about this behind closed doors and I've made this clear.

Ever since I have made parents aware of the situation I have had so called officials knocking on my door and letters demanding money for non-existant parking offences and not re-declaring my car off road, they have threatened to tow the car away, which is parked in my front garden with flatt tyres and battery and for six months has been the home of an unemployed homeless man who sleeps in it.

Baliffs have also been to my door and now even the tv license enforcers have had a go.

Ha, we don't use a television.

None of them are coming in my house.

Social Workers have been to see us regarding a few times our children have been late for registration at school, even though both have attendance records of 98 percent.

Why do I have this feeling that forces are raging behind my back? Had I better watch out for myself?

I have been trying to contact Labour MP Gisela Stuart to let her know what is going on, but all to no avail. I wonder why?

I would like to debate this with Jack Straw and other polititions myself, but I know they couldn't face a loving parent like me who knows what is going on.

As a film-maker I have documented much of this on film, and in due of the fact that I was told by the police that they could take my camera and footage, of myself peacefully talking to people on their views of biometrics in schools, and use this against me in court, I have had no alternative but to secreet all my footage, and I mean years of filming, at a trusted and secure location.

This film will be released to the public very soon.

How far are they willing to go to silence me?

The only way to silence me is to leave my kids alone!

Am I too contraversal I ask again?

notaslave
17-02-2007, 07:30 PM
I dont think you are too controversial. I emailed my daughter about fingerprinting in schools and how the company involved were also involved with Gitmo. Even if the company had nothing to do with these torture camps I would object to my grandson being fingerprinted at school - he is not a criminal.

As for the child's book about Bombs - personally I would have gone ballistic (lol) if I found my kids coming home with such a book at such a young age. There is no need for kids to read about such subjects. Let them be kids for as long as possible.

I will however pass on a word of caution. Although schools claim they like parents who are interested in their kids education it was my experience that they actually dont. I took too much interest in the education of my eldest and as a result had to remove her from state education at the age of almost 14. I had to home educate.

warrior
18-02-2007, 08:45 PM
excellent post and I applaud your efforts. There are so many people out there who have no idea how facist the british state really is.

seamus
19-02-2007, 12:43 AM
the only way to get them to leave your kids alone is to take them out of the public school system. And I am thinking that won't work for long.

oh yes read this!

it's where the EU mihgt work for you instead of against you.

http://conventions.coe.int/treaty/en/Treaties/Html/009.htm

Read Article 2!

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lookfar
04-03-2007, 11:14 PM
Hi Darren

I've only just come across this thread and thank you for posting it. Well done to you for all your efforts, even though they may seem in vain. At least you've opened some parents eyes to the way of things. And it also seems you've rattled the authorities cages :) Don't let them intimidate you, you haven't done anything wrong, you're just a concerned & caring parent.

I would've also been angered at the bomb scare book - talk about targetting them on all levels :mad:

My friend had a similar library book incident with her daughter a few months ago, which she only discovered by accident! She went straight to the head mistress & demanded that her childs fingerprint records be deleted (which apparently they did in front of her) and she stressed that her daughter would take books out in the usual way as she was not going to grant permission for fingerprinting. It seems that she had quite an easy time of getting her daughters records deleted and this may have been because she has helped out at the school in the past and they knew her, I don't know? I'm not sure if other parents were notified (probably not), and I still think they are operating the same system even now.

Another thing I recall from my days at school was a trip to the local police station, whereby they proceeded to take everyone's prints as a sort of 'fun thing to do'!!! I'm not sure if they still take kids on these trips, but I'm going to be demanding that I don't want my son going on one & being printed. I'm also going to be asking the teachers about fingerprinting for library books. My son (5) says that they don't use them yet, but I'm not sure if this is something they bring in a bit later, so I'm going to get my views across before it's too late.

Best of luck with everything and keep up the good work. I look forward to seeing your films in the near future to help spread the word :)

jologriffiths
05-03-2007, 03:46 AM
Thanks for your courage in informing people of truth and implications of this biometric nightmare.
It seems to me that there is a potent benevolent force helping to spread the word and soon the powers that be will be overwhelmed with dissent..

you are not contraversial you are a light in the dark.

anoninnyc
15-03-2007, 12:14 PM
agreed. thanks for doing what you are doing. best of luck.

ho1ogram
15-03-2007, 01:39 PM
You've inspired me dondaz, thank you. Keep it up, there are more people everyday who are speaking up, obviously with the mass media under the thumb we don't hear about it so it feels llike we're in a vacuum sometimes.
Thanks for your post. :)

dondaz
24-03-2007, 04:42 PM
Hi all, thank you very much for your kind words and encouragement. It does make it worth while to get out and about to spread the word.

People really are waking up to this facist agenda.

Here's a post to my trailer:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2134

Best

Darren

whitelightrabbit
25-03-2007, 06:02 AM
i had my prints taken on a field trip to the police station in elementary school as well.

i left school to homeschool at 14 years old.

i dont have kids now, but i wouldnt trust the public school system to educate them if i did.

i'm glad you are doing such good work! keep it up. be strong, and calm.

truthcommission
26-03-2007, 08:05 AM
This is an excellent thread dondaz. I had a look over at your website www.leavethemkidsalone.com and shall be keeping an eye on developments.

Keep up the good work.

friendsinthesky
26-03-2007, 02:07 PM
I too had my prints taken in elementary school, BUt that was only because I broke the law.:(

pollock
26-03-2007, 02:22 PM
Now that Im reading this post I remember we did a fieldtrip with school to the local police station, dont ask me why.
I remember it feeling very weird, they performed a puppet theater about policework and we got to draw some pictures of police and brainwash sh*t like that, but they also "showed" us how fingerprinting works by taking all our finger prints(?), this thread makes me wonder about that!
I dont remember if our names where on the paper or anything its 25 years ago!

friendsinthesky
26-03-2007, 02:59 PM
Now that Im reading this post I remember we did a fieldtrip with school to the local police station, dont ask me why.
I remember it feeling very weird, they performed a puppet theater about policework and we got to draw some pictures of police and brainwash sh*t like that, but they also "showed" us how fingerprinting works by taking all our finger prints(?), this thread makes me wonder about that!
I dont remember if our names where on the paper or anything its 25 years ago!

..and your point is what? They have our finger prints? What are they going to do with it? Some people on this forum think we are the creation of the "reptillians"..and if we are, then - THEY ALREADY HAVE OUR FINGER PRINTS!.. but if we are not, then what is the big conspiracy? What do you think they are going to do with our finger prints?

pollock
26-03-2007, 03:55 PM
Sorry "friend" no special point to this memory, just sharing it as it had to do with the subject in this thread!
As far as I am concerned they can stuff my fingerprints up their rear ends,

qasrose
16-07-2008, 04:54 PM
I'm sick of these so-called websites that claim they want our opinions on matters that concern us.

This is a letter I wrote to LeaveThemKidsAlone. Do you think they would post it on their website?

Am I too contraversal?

Leave My Kids Alone - Darren Pollard

After learning what is happening at schools accross the uk from the website www.leavethemkidsalone.com (http://www.leavethemkidsalone.com/), I wish to inform you that Welsh House Farm Rd School in Quinton, Birmingham, has biometric fingerprinting technology.

I have personally seen this equipment (Biometric Fingerprint scanner) inside the school, which was, along with a barcode book scanner, plugged into the computer that is used to log library books.

I spoke right away with the head teacher, Mrs Cowen, who said that they had no intention of taking our childrens fingerprints. I pointed out the fact that there is a Biometric Fingerprint scanner sitting on a desk right outside her office.

"We dont use that. We wouldn't take childrens fingerprints without parents permission."

I have made it quite clear that my children are not aloud to be fingerprinted, eyescanned or microchipped.

I left her office and promtly informed other parents, pointing out the fingerprint scanning device so as to inform them of the situation.

Many parents are rightly incensed at this intrusion on the lives, privacy and liberty of their innocent children and so am I.

I decided a course of action was needed.

I petitioned 10 Downing Street 'We the undersigned petition the Prime Minister to Stop schools taking childrens finger prints without parental permission.'

I sought legal advice from Human Rights solicitors regarding my childrens privacy and biometric technology at the school, and have been told that if there are laws legislating the use of fingerprint scanning, then legally they would have to be granted the legal permission from parents, and only then if a childs fingerprints are taken without parental consent, can action to taken against the schools.

I also consulted on the legal issues of health and safety and sharing infomation in a public place, peacefully, and I have been told by Human Rights solicitors, that I have every legal right to do so.

I made a billboard.

I made a couple of graphics and printed some of the articles from www.leavethemkidsalone.com (http://www.leavethemkidsalone.com/).

Yesterday afternoon, 29th Jan 06, I stood ouside my children's school with this info I had gathered and spoke to some of the parents. I was very suprised as to the lack of infomation many parents have regarding biometric technology.

Just before I was about to go home with my noticeboard and kids in tow, along came the police.

Two Community Policemen, who I have spoken to on many occaisions regarding projects for the kids in the Quinton area, as I have worked as a mentor with excluded and margialised teenagers over the years.

They were polite and I explained the situation with the school. As most of the parents had picked up their children, and after they had taken a photograph of me and my notice board, I was allowed to go (I had my 8 month old son with me, in his pushchair of course).

The next morning I was back outside the school advising parents as to what was going on.

Many parents are not very happy with the idea of the school fingerprinting their children. Many of these parents do not understand the finer details and implications of biometric technology and are really uninformed on this subject.

Many parents were also very pleased that I had brought this to their attention, apart from one parent who I had never seen before. She claims that I was scaring her child. Again I had my 8 month old son with me. There were wittnesses present who saw this woman (provocateer?) try to create an issue with me.

I wasn't there to argue, but to inform.

The police arrived again. Different officers this time and threatened to take the camera away from my partner if she didn't stop filmimg whilst they spoke to me. They were very insistant that there was to be no filming!

After explaining the situation to the officers they made it clear that every time I have my notice board with me outside the school, the head teacher, Mrs Cowen, would call the police on me.

I got the impression that these officers were not going to leave me alone unless I went away with my notice board, which I did after some grilling from the officer who did most of the talking and veild threats of arrest (scaring children was hinted at).

What I was doing outside my childrens school was peacefull, legal and the right thing to do.

As for all the excuses being peddled to get people to submit to this: It's just for kids who havent yet learned to write their names; 'It's to monitor immigrants because they move around the country.' one parent was told.

I don't but into this one bit.

I know this is all leading up to get us microchipped in the next few years and so do the powers that be. I know they are trying to sneak these biometrics into our lives because they know we wont stand for it if we really knew what was planned further down the road.

Jack Straw has said that parents have obviously accepted it, this isn't the case. I have have not accepted and will never accept the treatment of children as criminals.

I believe biometric technologies being used against our children is criminal and we should stand up to these bullies in our schools, the companies that peddle this technology and the snide polititions who back them by staying silent about the whole thing.

A couple of days later I sat with my 8 year old son to read his school book with him.

The book was called Bomb Scare!

The story was about a boy who saw a bomb scare on television, then went to the park with his friends and saw a package sitting on a park bench with wires sticking out (sounds familier).

Basically this story is mind manipulation propaganda in order to indoctrinate children into becoming paranoid and suspicious of their world around them.

I wouldn't let my son finish the book and took it back to the school the next day. I politely explained my thoughts to the teacher and said the book wasn't appropriate and was intended to plant seeds of fear into his mind.

The next day I was again speaking to one of the community police officers about a summer workshop project I am trying to raise funds for, when out of the blue he started talking about the 8 people who had been arrested for allegedly plotting to behead a british muslim soldier here in Birmingham. I have never spoken to this officer about my feelings on the war on terror, so it was a total suprise when he brought this up.

'This proves that there is terrorism in our communities.' he laughed.

I immeadiately put two and two together.

Someone at my childrens school informed the police that I had brought the Bomb Scare book back and complained.

Is this a coincidence I ask myself?

Clearly the powers that be and their servants are desperately trying to cover this whole thing up. The head teacher knows I am not interested in talking about this behind closed doors and I've made this clear.

Ever since I have made parents aware of the situation I have had so called officials knocking on my door and letters demanding money for non-existant parking offences and not re-declaring my car off road, they have threatened to tow the car away, which is parked in my front garden with flatt tyres and battery and for six months has been the home of an unemployed homeless man who sleeps in it.

Baliffs have also been to my door and now even the tv license enforcers have had a go.

Ha, we don't use a television.

None of them are coming in my house.

Social Workers have been to see us regarding a few times our children have been late for registration at school, even though both have attendance records of 98 percent.

Why do I have this feeling that forces are raging behind my back? Had I better watch out for myself?

I have been trying to contact Labour MP Gisela Stuart to let her know what is going on, but all to no avail. I wonder why?

I would like to debate this with Jack Straw and other polititions myself, but I know they couldn't face a loving parent like me who knows what is going on.

As a film-maker I have documented much of this on film, and in due of the fact that I was told by the police that they could take my camera and footage, of myself peacefully talking to people on their views of biometrics in schools, and use this against me in court, I have had no alternative but to secreet all my footage, and I mean years of filming, at a trusted and secure location.

This film will be released to the public very soon.

How far are they willing to go to silence me?

The only way to silence me is to leave my kids alone!

Am I too contraversal I ask again?

I don't think your contraversal? dondaz and as for filming in a public place, you should have pointed out to the police that there are cameras spying on us everywhere we walk. And also there are no signs around on street lamp posts saying "PLEASE DO NOT FILM HERE". I'm proud that you have woken up many of the other parents. They claim the big brother cameras are there to protect us, yet newspaper articles have stated that big brother cameras have failed to protect us as no one is watching them.

Thanks for sharing that information Dondaz.

hagbard_celine
16-07-2008, 10:02 PM
I used to be very active in the 9/11 Truth Movement, but I found them a bit hostile towards me. They (or at least the ones I knew) are very image-conscious and keen to distance themselves from the culture of "conspiracy nuts"; people like me in other words!

I support them still and speak out about 9/11 all the time, but the organization itself needs to get over a few issues!

quester123
17-07-2008, 02:17 AM
Hi folks
I think that it is absolutely brilliant that Darren is making tremendous efforts to bring the children's school fingerprinting agenda out into the public arena for debate.

But please do not confuse Darren as being the person who is actually running the organization and website WWW.LEAVETHEMKIDSALONE.COM (http://www.leavethemkidsalone.com/)

I'm not having a go at you Darren, it's just that some people assume you are running that site

americana
17-07-2008, 03:04 AM
I would like to debate this with Jack Straw and other polititions myself, but I know they couldn't face a loving parent like me who knows what is going on.

That's the difference, and that's what matters here.

LOVE.

It's terrible when the schools are uncaring prisons and the children are "numbers".

I grew up in a small town in Connecticut, and the librarians at my elementary school knew all the kids. Gosh, this was in the days before computerization, and they knew which children had all the books! And the ladies in the lunchroom knew everyone, too! If you bought lunch at school, you had a simple paper ticket. I must sound like an old fogey, but I'm "only" 41!

What matters in schools is seeing the children as individuals. The best teachers love their students and see them as "their kids".

I applaud Darren for putting himself out there and fighting for his kids and what he knows is best, because HE and his partner love them.

signalnorth
18-07-2008, 09:50 AM
Disturbing and disgusting. Maybe Forum members should get active and email the head and point out the implications of fingerprinting in the bigger picture of things.

enquiry@welshhousefarm.bham.sch.uk

cacadores
25-07-2008, 01:46 AM
..and your point is what? They have our finger prints? What are they going to do with it? Some people on this forum think we are the creation of the "reptillians"..and if we are, then - THEY ALREADY HAVE OUR FINGER PRINTS!.. but if we are not, then what is the big conspiracy? What do you think they are going to do with our finger prints?
Because it changes the relationship between state and citizen. The government is supposed to be our creation, civil servants our servants: they should have to prove themselves to us, not the other way around. But now you have state institutions collecting information on us 24 hours a day, on camera, on library tickets, everywhere. And it seems, exchanging the information between different departments too. That's a lot of personal details. That's too much power. That's our identity details taken forever. At the very least it makes identity theft easier.

One would think that childrens' fingerprints are going to become useless when the child grows up. Not so. Aparently there are computer algorithms being developed which can determine what the adult print will be. A Dutch study says:
"Children over the age of six do have measurable fingerprints, but these are subject to particularly marked changes as the child grows, with the result that special algorithms must be used in order to calculate the changes and arrive at a result which is as accurate as for an adult" One wonder why?

Meanwhile, for new passports, facial scanning and fingerprints will be put in the passport chip, and this will be compulsory from the age of 12, according to proposal EU doc no: 9403/1/06. You can read it here:
http://www.statewatch.org/news/2006/jul/9403-rev1-06.pdf

Whats more, 900,000 children aged 10 to 17 already have their genetic information stored on the police's national DNA database.

And 6 million children could get their fingerprints taken, including children as young as 4, without having to inform parents.
This report from last year, stated that ''Tony Blair has said he wants all youngsters monitored for signs of criminality''
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/education/education-news/schools-may-fingerprint-six-million-children-443932.html

But that's not all: schools in Britian are to be advised by ministers that they can collect fingerprints of all children
http://www.independent.co.uk/news/uk/politics/fingerprinting-and-eye-scans-for-children-as-young-as-five-453492.html
.......even without parental consent.
http://www.theregister.co.uk/2006/09/07/kiddyprinting_allowed/

The child's 'consent' is considered enough - with no lower age limit defined as to when a child can give 'consent'.

As far as I can see, the only way to prevent your childs fingerprints being taken, is to train your child to say no.

Go to America, and it becomes even wilder. There are organisations offering schools and events organisers to fingerprint children there for free.

Child Protection Education of America, Inc., ''Advocate for America's Missing Children'' offer that:

''We will set up our fingerprinting technology at your business or event and fingerprint children for free. It is an excellent promotional tool and a great way to attract more customer traffic. Events focus on creating more awareness about the missing children issue and promoting your business.''
Their catch-line is:
''ID ME NOW because you can't fingerprint them later.''

How having a fingerprint on a card is going to stop child-snatchers, is a little beyond me.
http://www.find-missing-children.org/images/web_bio_doc_front.gif
http://www.curriculumsupport.education.nsw.gov.au/primary/pdhpe/assets/pdf/child_prot_k6/cpe_s3_theme_3.pdf
But it does appear that lots of parents do want it.

godspeed
04-08-2008, 04:06 PM
i think its that the other parents are'nt contraversal enough...go back and see them again and tell them what do they think of you being imtimidated for letting them know thier kids are possibley being fingerprinted for future chipping...standing strong you are doing a fine act of patriotism well done mate.

chemtrailhater
04-08-2008, 09:23 PM
hi darren me and mrs just loved all of your movies - specially police your freindly guides and of course the shocking "leave our kids alone" - really buddy you should have your own tv show - love the way u stand up for yourself and other people and we hope to see more of your stuff again! just keep filming buddy - all the harrassment and abuse because it turns sheeple like me and the mrs into wide awake citizens - and i thank you for that!

krakhead
04-08-2008, 10:01 PM
Hi all, thank you very much for your kind words and encouragement. It does make it worth while to get out and about to spread the word.

People really are waking up to this facist agenda.

Here's a post to my trailer:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=2134

Best

Darren

It's because of people like you that things DO change. Keep it up mate! :)

I'd suggest that the hassle you've been getting shows you're doing something right!

dondaz
24-09-2008, 08:47 PM
Jeeze, I forgot about this thread. It was my very first thread on here.

I'm not having a go at you Darren, it's just that some people assume you are running that site

No probs. I'm not running that site, no. Pity!:D

I used to be very active in the 9/11 Truth Movement, but I found them a bit hostile towards me. They (or at least the ones I knew) are very image-conscious and keen to distance themselves from the culture of "conspiracy nuts"; people like me in other words!

I support them still and speak out about 9/11 all the time, but the organization itself needs to get over a few issues!

There are many people with one foot still in the box mate. Sounds like they have an ego problem too:eek:

Disturbing and disgusting. Maybe Forum members should get active and email the head and point out the implications of fingerprinting in the bigger picture of things.

enquiry@welshhousefarm.bham.sch.uk (enquiry@welshhousefarm.bham.sch.uk)

Nice one mate. My kids are no longer at that school. Got them in a better school. Hopefully we can educate the teachers as to what exactly is going on. My new film will help in that area!

Great post cacadores, very informative.

i think its that the other parents are'nt contraversal enough...go back and see them again and tell them what do they think of you being imtimidated for letting them know thier kids are possibley being fingerprinted for future chipping...

I have a feeling now I no longer go there they will try to push the fingerprinting agenda in. Well see how many parents stand up for themselves now they all know!

hi darren me and mrs just loved all of your movies - specially police your freindly guides and of course the shocking "leave our kids alone" - really buddy you should have your own tv show - love the way u stand up for yourself and other people and we hope to see more of your stuff again! just keep filming buddy - all the harrassment and abuse because it turns sheeple like me and the mrs into wide awake citizens - and i thank you for that!

That's music to my ears. Thank you.:)

It's because of people like you that things DO change. Keep it up mate! :)

I'd suggest that the hassle you've been getting shows you're doing something right!

Nice one mate. They've cut back with the flack, for now!

Here the original trailer for my film Leave Our Kids Alone:

http://uk.youtube.com/watch?v=d_H8Qx0iPl0

The film project has grown alot and will be released end of November. I have a thread here with the new trailer, released just yeasterday:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=36719

Thanks for all your input guys:)

hagbard_celine
25-09-2008, 04:46 PM
How's the movie going, D?