It is impossible to deny

[joss classey]

The idea of eternal damnation is a seed of fear implanted in each of us that limits us from being free. Even if you don't believe in it, the seed is planted and fucks you right over on a subconscious level. Regardless of logical and rational thinking, it is still there.

[28th kingdom]

Yes... it is there... in the subconscious... but it is just a belief... so, you can free yerself of it... but until then - it will affect yer behavior... because our beliefs... control our emotional responses.

If you want help... shedding this belief... just look at the elite... and the heinous things they do... they are above the law... so, there is no punishment for their acts... no matter how many people they rape, murder etc. And I believe... they are possessed by other dimensional beings... who know more about the universe... than we do. So, I doubt... they would continue to do these things... if there was a terrible retribution for it in the 'afterlife'.

They fill us with these type of "damnation" beliefs... as a simple means to instill fear and control us. No, there isn't a God who's gonna give you a cookie when you get to heaven for being a good boy... just like there isn't a God... who will cast you into a pit of hell, if you've been bad. You are the God... and the only punishment... comes from yer belief... that you deserve to be punished for doing things that are deemed, wrong or bad.

I use to believe in karma... but it's not what I thought it was... karma just means action... it's not a cause/effect principle. Only through yer beliefs... do we create or manifest guilt and other forms of punishment for doing something that we are taught is wrong.

In absolute terms, there is no such thing as right or wrong... and that's why the subconscious... doesn't know the difference, between what we consciously refer to as right/wrong. The subconscious mind... will believe anything you tell it... it doesn't judge... because at this level of consciousness... we are enlightened to the universal truth of oneness...

This is a difficult thing for many people to grasp...

[rossus]

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nice thoughts :)

i think something like "eternal damnation" exist,
perhaps not for eternity but for as long as you commit sin.

people who commit sin, are the victim of themselves.

do you think the elite are happy?
just because they sniff coke and fuck a lot, does not make them happy.

in fact, i think they feel really bad. they need a lot of coke and other pleasure through the senses to escape from themselves...
they are no better of as junkies. as long as the drug works, they are safe.
but soon the drug wears off... and soon the drug has less and less effect on them.

reality comes back at them. nobody can escape from himself.
sometimes it looks as if the rich man with all the money and all the pleasure is a lucky man,
but inside this man is forever craving more... he craves but his thirst is never fullfilled.

the dark side is something that lives in everybody, but when you become a satanist or a drugaddicted or an addict to pleasure of any kind...
you allow it to manifest much more strongly. and sure the devil gives you good coke and good whores, but the cost is a lot also... your soul (happiness)

[synak]

Yes... it is there... in the subconscious... but it is still just a belief... so, you can free yerself of it... but until then - yes... it will affect yer behavior... because our beliefs... control our emotional responses.

If you want help... shedding this belief... just look at the elite... and the heinous things they do... they are above the law... so, there is no punishment for their acts... no matter how many people they rape, murder etc. And I believe... they are possessed by other dimensional beings... who know more about the universe... than we do. So, I doubt... they would continue to do these things... if there was terrible a retribution for it in the 'afterlife'.

They fill us with this type of "damnation" beliefs... as a simple means to instill fear into us and control us. No, there isn't a God who's gonna give you a cookie when you get to heaven for being a good boy... just like there isn't a God... who will cast you into a pit of hell, if you've been bad. You are the God... and the only punishment.. comes from yer belief... that you deserve to be punished for doing things that are deemed, wrong or bad.

I use to believe in karma... but it's not what I thought it was... karma just means action... it's not a cause/effect principle. Only through yer beliefs... do we create or manifest guilt and other forms of punishment for doing something that we are taught is wrong.

There really isn't right/wrong... and that's why the subconscious... doesn't know the difference, between what we consciously refer to as right/wrong. The subconscious mind... will believe anything you tell it... it doesn't judge... because at this level of consciousness... we are enlightened to the universal truth of oneness... This is a difficult thing for many people to grasp...

Precisely. I agree with this and its unfortunate for those who are unwilling to let go of these artificially implanted fears.

[28th kingdom]

i think something like "eternal damnation" exist,
perhaps not for eternity but for as long as you commit sin.

I think of karma like this... if you are angry at someone... and hit them... how does that make you feel? Do you feel the wonder gift of love in those moments or do you feel like crap?

See... this is different than cause/effect... because it all happens (action, so-called punishment) simultaneously... so as soon as you change or stop doing this action... this "punishment" or what we perceive as a bad or negative type of feeling or emotional will pass.

If you want love... be love... and you receive love the very moment you create it... the same with the other types of emotions or energies... if you are angry... than, that is what you become and experience (in those moments) ... but - that's completely different... than doing something... and being punished by an authoritative figure... after the fact.

[rossus]

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exactly, that's what i mean.
action and reaction happen simultaneously.

you cannot roll in the mud without being muddy.