In your own words - dreams - what are they?

[biglad]

.....Why do we have them.

Dreams can be very powerful - stirring up strong emotions such as joy, elation, regret, sorrow, loss, gain, helplessness, power. All while we are asleep.

Some dreams are very vivid & leave a lasting impression. some we struggle to remember having had.

Some dreams are very realistic. Some are more abstract.

Some dreams can be re-occurring dreams that you have often, with slight variations to the main storyline - such as past exam & past job based dreams.

In some dreams you can meet up with dead friends or relatives, where you know they died, & that this is only a temporary meeting...

So in your own opinions (not some textbooks) what are dreams, why do we have them, what is happening to us when we dream?

Thanks.

[biglad]

My favourite dreams are -

flying dreams - where i can flap my arms & get up in the air, above the street lamps etc. Once i get up there, a swimming motion will often move me forward.

Jumping dreams - similar to flying dreams - but where i can jump big distances such as across rivers, or from the goal line to the edge of the penalty area - controlled by thought - where i want to land. In this type of dream - although not strictly a flying dream - i can hover!

Dreams can be very profound & relevent to what is going on in your waking life. But any meaning attached to the dream, why you had it, & what you should do as a result in your waking life are not so clear.

[crystalline]

my best dreams are those that give me advice.

[biglad]

I think there is an aspect to dreams that connects us to the spirit world. ANother dimension of reality, within the electro magnetic spectrum. ]

When i interact with dead friends & relatives in my dreams, i think that on some level my spirit is interacting with their spirit.

WHen i go flying in my dreams, i think this is very similar, connected to, or the same to what a lot of people term an astral projection, maybe in a watered down form.

[elirien]

well without using any terminology, we encounter two types of dreams, symbolic and "prophetic".

Symbolic dreams are where we have seen aspects of our own, manifesting in different forms. For example walking in a half built apartment with a dog on our side. The symbols are completely open for your interpretation since they come from the reflections of the mind.

Now "prophetic" dreams are where we saw instances of our "future". They happen exactly as they were seen in the dream. Since they happened in the physical experience they are symbolic as well. Again open for interpretation but not from someone else but from that which spawned it.

We occasionally met some other people both dead and alive with which we conversed with but that is of no importance since they are already aspects of our self.

[metacomet]

From here (http://davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=94076):


Dreaming is dimensional travel, and so is the afterlife. But when a human being, incarnated in the 3rd dimension has a dream, he is left dazed, confused, and unaware, subject to all sorts of abuse... and this is how he is fed upon by 4th dimensional beings. This is why he must be easily controlled and is genetically programmed. This is also why he is bombarded by negative or 'dark' imagery, encouraged to feel guilt, jealousy, anger, shame, or other lower dimensional emotions, as well as endless thoughts which cause him pain. He is being fed on by the 4th dimension.

Without time, there is no possibility of injury or pain or suffering or guilt, anger, jealousy, or any negative feeling. Time is experienced here in the 3rd and lower dimensions... when we ascend to the 4th or 5th dimensions which are irrespective of time, we are free of all suffering and despair.

This is because lower dimensional feelings, based in time and separation (space), cannot be carried into 'heaven' which is outside of time and space.

http://www.fatbrowne.com/pics/afterlife.jpg

We should not despair that we are fed on by 4th dimensional beings.

It is only fair in that human beings do ourselves, take advantage of and feed upon beings of lesser awareness ... and we are even more capable of freeing ourselves and fighting back then some animals.

As beings of lesser awareness in the 4th dimension, we are given time through 'dreaming' to familiarize ourself with the 4th dimension. It is here we are supposed to learn how to become thought-creators and manifest our own reality, but the dreamworld as we have access to it has been muted and curtained off from us, through manipulation of our mind and the stripping of our dna. A human being without ability to let go of this reality and exist in a thought based, non-physical reality, is at a disadvantage, and fears death.


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When a human being dies, he will not be familiar with the 4th dimension, because he has been kept from becoming lucid in his dreams and realizing his 4th dimensional self. Growing up so to speak and getting a headstart in the 4th dimension is important, and so as our physical body regenerates, our spirit enters a daily cycle of exiting the body, to enter the fourth dimension, which is to be entered 'permanently' at 'death'.

http://www.kenseamedia.com/encyclopedia/aaa/images/afterlife1.jpg

In the 4th dimension, other beings aware of thought-creation create their own objects and stages and often subject the dreamer or 'soul of the damned' to tortures and long, chaptered dreams, escapades of unfair or painful experiences which teach him little but release great volumes of emotion based on Tension and Fear. This is the lowest and least enjoyable emotions the human is capable of having. He will also dream of fighting, murdering, or debaucheries and scenes unthinkable for him in waking life. These are often called 'nightmares'. This is the mechanism used by higher dimensional beings to confuse and strip the human soul of it's impurities and feed upon it. This dissolving of the ego is an incredibly painful experience.

A human being full of fear, despair, guilt or is a large meal, and as he unravels his ego he is easily fed upon.

If a human being has cleansed his ego, and strengthened his spirit before death, he is a warrior in the 4th dimension, and not cattle, for the simple fact that he is vibrating at a higher frequency then the predators.

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A human being is encouraged his entire life, by his own thoughts and higher self, to strive for something more then the physical, whether through his own self awareness and integrity or the instruction of higher dimensional beings (captured and re-scripted in many 'religions'). If a human being decides to be come spiritually aware, he is rewarded by synchronicities and 'spiritual experiences' and grows as a bigger and stronger being in the 3rd dimension. But at the same time, a human soul which is strong and healthy is still assaulted by 'lower dimensions' and 4th dimensional predators. Such is the nature of reality, the strongest bull will always be hunted first.

This is the benefit to 4th dimensional beings, of keeping 3rd dimensional humans polluted, and ignorant of their higher self.



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Human beings are capable of becoming 'lucid' in dreams or realizing that they are dreaming. In such states they become thought-creators, changing their dream experience, and are incapable of being controlled. It is paramount to the hierarchy of dimensions thatbeings in the 4th dimension feed upon those who cannot see them or combat them physically, that is, those in the 3rd dimension.

If a human becomes aware of the 4th dimension he witnesses the predatory field around him, allowing him to escape the proverbial lions and alligators of our dreamscape...

http://www.buffalostate.edu/orgs/bcp/brainbasics/brain3.gif

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But there are even deeper mechanisms within our own physical mind, devoted to allowing our control. We must realize that as we have affected the genetic range of all animals (the dog for instance) the human being has likewise been run through many genetic courses by 4th dimensional intervention... this is quite literally what makes humans different from animals. We are of higher dimensions, but are cloaked in this dimension and manipulated by it, as 3rd dimensional beings.

This truth has been interpreted as human beings having divine origin, which is true, in that we are higher dimensional beings 'trapped' in physicality. But the genetic human body is in fact like all other bodies, a physical object which is fed upon, and has been manipulated through genetic intervention. There is still genuine beauty and greatness in the human experience, and the human body, but there are also such things in many of the animals we have killed, driven extinct or near extinction.

For us, it does not matter if we are ever harmed physically... we are still fed upon by non-physical beings. To die in the physical is not the only thing. You can also be terrorized and fed on in the afterlife. To arm yourself and be prepared you must become familiar with the next dimension, the fabric of the afterlife.

If we dream with lucidity, become proficient in the 'astral realm' through astral projection or deep meditation... awareness and strength in our 4th dimensional self develops as something we will inherit at death. Otherwise, we are going to be naked and afraid.

[logan 5]

My current belief is that dreams are a message given to me from my Inner Being, or Higher Self. Call it what you want. Some call it Source, Divine Intelligence..or a term that I really can relate to, the Dreamsource.

I also believe that my dreams have my best interests at heart. I've had many precognitive dreams that manifested themselves into ordinary reality.

[brainfreeze]

My favourite dreams are -

flying dreams - where i can flap my arms & get up in the air, above the street lamps etc. Once i get up there, a swimming motion will often move me forward.

Jumping dreams - similar to flying dreams - but where i can jump big distances such as across rivers, or from the goal line to the edge of the penalty area - controlled by thought - where i want to land. In this type of dream - although not strictly a flying dream - i can hover!

Dreams can be very profound & relevent to what is going on in your waking life. But any meaning attached to the dream, why you had it, & what you should do as a result in your waking life are not so clear.



What about running dreams where you end up running on the spot, or in slow motion?

Or falling dreams?

Or those dreams you wake up from screaming but no sound is coming out?

Or dreams where you're thirsty and can't find a tap, or worse still pee dreams, you've got to go but you can't find the right place. Some mornings you wake up in time, some you don't.

ha listing those took me back through different stages in life. For the most part dreams are just your mind trying to make sense of things. I've heard of prophetic dreams but never experienced any myself.

[academylin]

SOME DREAMS ARE LIKE A SUBCONSCIOUS OR SUBLIMINAL REALISATION (WAKE UP CALL/ REMINDER) to generate a mental recognition of a process which needs attention or amending, some dreams ar prophetic or perhaps better explained as synchronistic.

Some dreams are lucid and are indeed a step away from a venture into another dimension/ reality. Some dreams are a solution and others are a warning.

Some dreams are a release, after a culmination of crisis(es) or events which are/were alarming an escape is often needed, one can achieve this through a dream process. Some dreams are triggers.

Out of all of the ideas up there, I tend to lean toward the theory of synchronicity and lucidity. Dream Journals and meditation make you a lot more aware of the relevance of type and content of dream as does a study into "dreamtongue" and a basic understanding of the alpha, beta, theta, delta brainwaves.

hmm... be back later, somebody just came in!!

;)

[martg]

The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had ;)

[biglad]

The dreams in which I'm dying are the best I've ever had ;)

The one i can recall, i was shot & i was like - blasted back off the floor in an upright position. i was starting to zoom back into some sort of blackness/black hole - where space & time were standing still, & the scene in which i had been shot - froze as my sight perspective of my last scene zoomed away/out into the distance. & then i woke up. This was within the last 6 months.

[martg]

The one i can recall, i was shot & i was like - blasted back off the floor in an upright position. i was starting to zoom back into some sort of blackness/black hole - where space & time were standing still, & the scene in which i had been shot - froze as my sight perspective of my last scene zoomed away/out into the distance. & then i woke up. This was within the last 6 months.

:cool: that's pretty cool, I wonder if it means something.

the line I posted is a song lyric, but I didn't just post it to be a smart arse, I agree with the sentiment, mainly because they tend to be the dreams that I remember.

[biglad]

:cool: that's pretty cool, I wonder if it means something.

the line I posted is a song lyric, but I didn't just post it to be a smart arse, I agree with the sentiment, mainly because they tend to be the dreams that I remember.

It was in a war field. id been having a few military battlefield dreams. When i was shot, i woke up soon after, but it had a computer game like feel to it in the moments after, like the kind of thing in a computer game when your character is killed.

[martg]

It was in a war field. id been having a few military battlefield dreams. When i was shot, i woke up soon after, but it had a computer game like feel to it in the moments after, like the kind of thing in a computer game when your character is killed.

could you have been influenced by a computer game?
or maybe your higher self was influencing you.
I really can't decide whether dreams are our brain or our consciousness (as DI says, I believe there is a fundamental difference).

the dream you describe reminds me of the only dream I have remembered in the last few months, I was on a medieval battlefield, sword, armour, all that jazz.

There was a huge fortress about half a mile away, a beautiful sunny breezy day, it seemed very real.

I didn't die in that particular dream but I did get severely injured yet there was no sensation of pain, in every other respect it seemed incredibly real.