tools of the NWO

[malvern]

:mad:in house fighting, is a tool of the NWO.
just of late there has been loads of it going on and some on these forums, who gives a shit who is the best, or is the biggest, or what picture.....it's all time wasting to keep you off the NWO ass it's easy to fall into this trap,we all think alike on subjects but get tied up on such little points we sometimes forget why. :confused:
everyone is free to there piont and are allowed to make it without feelingbulliedaway from giving there views.

Also people keep asking what should be done, you most do what you feel is right.......... I go to local gov and forum meetings, hear what they say and then kick ass at the ground roots of thier system (maybe wake a few up)
this hits them where it herts, in the pocket, and they most react and take action to some of my points of view, it also stop them pushing there way on to us unapposed. take the fight to them.
we have to stand together and not allow in house fighting to distrory the good of this forum site....


freedom for all:)

[Anders Lindman]

Alan Watt has warned about standing together. I think he's got a point there. The Internet jungle with its awesome viral capacity is a much better weapon imo. But even on the Internet it's wise to not buy into any information too much, including information from researchers like David Icke, Alex Jones, Alan Watt etc.

[i_am]

Alan Watt has warned about standing together. I think he's got a point there. The Internet jungle with its awesome viral capacity is a much better weapon imo. But even on the Internet it's wise to not buy into any information too much, including information from researchers like David Icke, Alex Jones, Alan Watt etc.

I dont think that is what Malvern meant about standing together. We do not have to agree on everything to stand together against the NWO..

Most of us are agreed on the the fact that there is an agenda but we have differing opinions on the extent and how to combat it. That is fine! Everyone do what you think best BUT why argue about the details. Why try to prove that your way is the right way.

As for researchers, I believe, all have a part of the big picture. Do any of them have it all? Hell no!! That does not make them a disinfo agent. They may well be, but use your own discernment and intuition. There is no need for this 'mine is better than yours' stuff.

And while we are busy arguing about who is right and who is wrong, whose information is disinfo and whose is not, the demons are running amok. We need to be united to the point where we respect others opinions and do not feel the need to attack each other about details. Only when we can stand together will we make a difference.

My 2c :o

[notaslave]

Yeah I get you and I apologise if I have offended anyone.

It's hard not get passionate about it when already this week the govt have enacted an old obscure law in an attempt to stop peaceful protest outside House of Commons and kids are being fingerprinted without parental consent days after a govt minister stated he hoped schools would seek consent.

So yeah I apologise, it all gets to me sometimes. As I am sure it does to others.

[malvern]

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Alan Watt has warned about standing together. I think he's got a point there. The Internet jungle with its awesome viral capacity is a much better weapon imo. But even on the Internet it's wise to not buy into any information too much, including information from researchers like David Icke, Alex Jones, Alan Watt etc.
I agree with this point, and I do act for myself. but sometimes we must act as a group for the intrest of mankind ( ie the family unit, or local comunity.. area of which the NWO wishes to break).......
the point of buying into information is not the problem... it's not allowing the information time to sink in and reacting to quickley, hence weaking the information and allowing it to be used the wrong way......
we most do what we feel right for ourselfs, only you and you alone sleep with your true action.


freedom for all:)

[lookfar]

:mad:in house fighting, is a tool of the NWO.
just of late there has been loads of it going on and some on these forums, who gives a shit who is the best, or is the biggest, or what picture.....it's all time wasting to keep you off the NWO ass it's easy to fall into this trap,we all think alike on subjects but get tied up on such little points we sometimes forget why. :confused:
everyone is free to there piont and are allowed to make it without feelingbulliedaway from giving there views.

Also people keep asking what should be done, you most do what you feel is right.......... I go to local gov and forum meetings, hear what they say and then kick ass at the ground roots of thier system (maybe wake a few up)
this hits them where it herts, in the pocket, and they most react and take action to some of my points of view, it also stop them pushing there way on to us unapposed. take the fight to them.
we have to stand together and not allow in house fighting to distrory the good of this forum site....

freedom for all:)

Hi malvern

I agree with your point here. It seems that there has been some definite time wasting through various means lately, some of which is causing segregation. & although we shouldn't sit by & let this happen, I'm not too sure of the cure, apart from obviously not letting it get to you & participating in it!:rolleyes::) But I know that's sometimes much easier said than done...

Perhaps some chill pills are in order for a few at the mo, lol...;):p We need to stand together on things we can make a difference in!!

[malvern]

Yeah I get you and I apologise if I have offended anyone.

it takes a brave person to make such a statement.... well done
So yeah I apologise, it all gets to me sometimes. As I am sure it does to others.
lets hope that we all learn from this.... I know I can


freedom:)

[malvern]

Quote:
Originally Posted by Anders Lindman
Alan Watt has warned about standing together. I think he's got a point there. The Internet jungle with its awesome viral capacity is a much better weapon imo. But even on the Internet it's wise to not buy into any information too much, including information from researchers like David Icke, Alex Jones, Alan Watt etc.

I dont think that is what Malvern meant about standing together. We do not have to agree on everything to stand together against the NWO..

Most of us are agreed on the the fact that there is an agenda but we have differing opinions on the extent and how to combat it. That is fine! Everyone do what you think best BUT why argue about the details. Why try to prove that your way is the right way.

As for researchers, I believe, all have a part of the big picture. Do any of them have it all? Hell no!! That does not make them a disinfo agent. They may well be, but use your own discernment and intuition. There is no need for this 'mine is better than yours' stuff.

And while we are busy arguing about who is right and who is wrong, whose information is disinfo and whose is not, the demons are running amok. We need to be united to the point where we respect others opinions and do not feel the need to attack each other about details. Only when we can stand together will we make a difference.

I did not put it better myself :rolleyes: thanks

freedom for all:)

[malvern]

I agree with your point here. It seems that there has been some definite time wasting through various means lately, some of which is causing segregation. & although we shouldn't sit by & let this happen, I'm not too sure of the cure, apart from obviously not letting it get to you & participating in it! But I know that's sometimes much easier said than done...

Perhaps some chill pills are in order for a few at the mo, lol... We need to stand together on things we can make a difference in!!

nice one lookfar :)
please can you send me some tooo.... I am lucky I can stop and look outside and reflect on the good things of this planet....:) sometimes it's time out we need, not to get tied down with the same small pionts, just to stand back and look at things another way.


freedom for all:)

[lydia78]

Hi malvern

I agree with your point here. It seems that there has been some definite time wasting through various means lately, some of which is causing segregation. & although we shouldn't sit by & let this happen, I'm not too sure of the cure, apart from obviously not letting it get to you & participating in it!:rolleyes::) But I know that's sometimes much easier said than done...

Perhaps some chill pills are in order for a few at the mo, lol...;):p We need to stand together on things we can make a difference in!!

Until the divide of heart and mind
within each individual is unified
man will not know true peace.

Optimism states this will be
but it is our responsibilty to rise to the challenge.
and for now the biggest challege is for us not to talk
but walk our talk :)

[Anders Lindman]

I dont think that is what Malvern meant about standing together. We do not have to agree on everything to stand together against the NWO..

Most of us are agreed on the the fact that there is an agenda but we have differing opinions on the extent and how to combat it. That is fine! Everyone do what you think best BUT why argue about the details. Why try to prove that your way is the right way.

As for researchers, I believe, all have a part of the big picture. Do any of them have it all? Hell no!! That does not make them a disinfo agent. They may well be, but use your own discernment and intuition. There is no need for this 'mine is better than yours' stuff.

And while we are busy arguing about who is right and who is wrong, whose information is disinfo and whose is not, the demons are running amok. We need to be united to the point where we respect others opinions and do not feel the need to attack each other about details. Only when we can stand together will we make a difference.

My 2c :o

The researchers are doing a great job finding interesting information. That together with the power of the Internet could be enough to find more and more truth. The problem is that it's a total information jungle out there which can be frustrating. Add to that the amount of disinfo and it becomes a real mess. Yet the ability to deal with all that is what is needed today in this information world. My approach is to try to connect dots and then spout all kinds of speculative ideas to test the information. The old-school approach is to always be able to back up claims, and sure that is crucial in for example the scientific world, but for investigating conspiracies and wag-the-dog propaganda, a less stringent approach may be more effective.

[dondaz]

Hi mate, good thread, seems I had loads of NWO tools used against me yesterday. Why is it that the people who attack what I do sit on their arses and do nothing to help in the fight against the nwo? Why is it always this way? Why do they slag others yet do nothing themselves?

You know me better than anyone here malvern. Do I want to get into forum fights or do I want to help fight the nwo?

Peace is the key I know. But bollocks to the trolls!

[lydia78]

Hi mate, good thread, seems I had loads of NWO tools used against me yesterday. Why is it that the people who attack what I do sit on their arses and do nothing to help in the fight against the nwo? Why is it always this way? Why do they slag others yet do nothing themselves?

You know me better than anyone here malvern. Do I want to get into forum fights or do I want to help fight the nwo?

Peace is the key I know. But bollocks to the trolls!

Hey darren! you are demonstrating your truth
walking your talk, so for those who have never
taken their truth into the real world or stood their ground
they're impact or opinion is hollow.
when i met you the other week
I was struck by your intuition and passion in what you do.
it is because of what you do that offers new perspective
awareness and underlines the potential of what could manifest
as far as police state goes..
rise above all the differences, your videos are precious information!
peace and love to you man x

[dondaz]

for those who have never
taken their truth into the real world or stood their ground
they're impact or opinion is hollow.

Hi Lydia, that's an interesting way to look at it. I will try to bare that in mind.

it is because of what you do that offers new perspective
awareness and underlines the potential of what could manifest
as far as police state goes..

Sure, it's like I try to warn people of things to come and this is how it all starts. Basic but effective.

Thanks Lydia:) BTW how's Dom, he going to join this forum or what? His tats would make great aves':D

[strider]

Yeah, nice thread.. I must admit, I've been a bit guilty of infighting the past couple of days, but I refuse to apologize to those who I got involved with.

It seems to me that the majority of people here are either 'infinite love' or 'world conspiracy', almost like one cancels the other out, and that's where certain conflicts seem to lie.

There's gonna be a time soon where we're really going to have to stand up and be counted. We need to get on better, no matter what our differences of opinion are, and move forward as adults. I think that's starting to show a little more around here, despite the bickering.

Anyway, I'm off for the weekend so won't be here a great deal..

Have a good one folks..:D

[malvern]

dondaz sometime we know you go for them..... also the old bill

but as the keeper of max people reley on both of you, to sniff out the trolls....
keep up the troll hunting ... do not rise to the time wasters, thats what they want


freedom fro all :)

long live MAX:D:D

[dondaz]

It seems to me that the majority of people here are either 'infinite love' or 'world conspiracy', almost like one cancels the other out, and that's where certain conflicts seem to lie.

Yeah and trolls will take advantage of this untill we are all at each other. Anyone who says ignor the trolls is a bit stupid. The illuminati are out to kill most of the world, just ignor it and it can't harm you they say, it's just an illusion.

but as the keeper of max people reley on both of you, to sniff out the trolls....
keep up the troll hunting ... do not rise to the time wasters, thats what they want

:eek::eek::eek:

[Anders Lindman]

The three main pillars of power today are: (1) Money, (2) Business, and (3) Oil. Politics is of course also a big power, but it is being taken over by the three main pillars of power.

The elite can control money very top-down, as from a capstone on a monetary pyramid. That is immense power, yet its stark centralization and top-down control nature makes this power ever more rigid. Then we have oil, which by being a limited resource will put an ever increasing pressure on the business world, and indirectly put an immense pressure on the control over money.

Of these three pillars, therefore, it is only business that has the capacity for expanding in power. Fortunately, business will always move by the 'invisible hand' Adam Smith wrote about in his book "The Wealth of Nations". That is the force in a market economy that is generated by the self-regulating nature of the business world. So, the tools for top-down control are becoming more and more obsolete, thank God!

[joss classey]

i think it is important to keep things simple
it is important to side with those who are after freedom
after what is good (which is obvious and instinctive)

sure. we all have our differences. but most of these are irrelevant.
don't get caught up in the over-info, rather focus on the raw injusticies in reality which you can see with your own eyes. these are the things which should drive you. not the things which can be impossible to prove

let's keep it simple and let's stick together

[malvern]

The three main pillars of power today are: (1) Money, (2) Business, and (3) Oil.

close in my book .. money brains force ... with one you can get the other two.... or should i have said the greedy can:mad:


freedom for all:)