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pythaem
04-04-2010, 03:57 PM
Note, I have no "point" to make, just asking questions to exercise the learning muscles.

So, is love truly infinite? For example, vegetarians are often respecting the consciousness and feelings of animals. However, plants are also living things. Everything is conscious, yes? So, is that where love stops? In that situation, we are killing plants and digesting them, the same way others do with animals. If everything is conscious, everything has self-awareness, infinite love is the only truth, is this hypocritical?

Obviously we have to eat something to survive. But is there any other response to this? Any other explanation aside from survival? (That's what I'm trying to learn). Are plants different from animals in the eyes of infinite love? The vegetarian thing is one example, but realistically, where does love stop?

codie
04-04-2010, 04:58 PM
When you eat plant based food, it has reached the point usually where the plant is letting go of the fruit, etc. An apple would fall from a tree, this would then decompose so i feel eating this way is the way of doing minimal harm to another entity/life source.

white horse
04-04-2010, 06:04 PM
When you eat plant based food, it has reached the point usually where the plant is letting go of the fruit, etc. An apple would fall from a tree, this would then decompose so i feel eating this way is the way of doing minimal harm to another entity/life source.

Except when you eat things like salad vegetables you are generally taking them when they are juvenilles before they reach maturity.

I believe it has a lot to do with intent and attitude, rather than what you are actually eating.

Most 'primitive' cultures give thanks and blessings when they eat especially if they have killed a beast for a meal, it becomes part of ritual. I think they are all more aware of how nature works than we are.

I also believe that humans are supposed to evolve to a state of light-being where they would not need physical food for sustance but could live by sun energy.

nectars
04-04-2010, 06:08 PM
Once something is Life, is there such a thing as not-life?

f13ticket
05-04-2010, 04:13 AM
Note, I have no "point" to make, just asking questions to exercise the learning muscles.

So, is love truly infinite? For example, vegetarians are often respecting the consciousness and feelings of animals. However, plants are also living things. Everything is conscious, yes? So, is that where love stops? In that situation, we are killing plants and digesting them, the same way others do with animals. If everything is conscious, everything has self-awareness, infinite love is the only truth, is this hypocritical?

Obviously we have to eat something to survive. But is there any other response to this? Any other explanation aside from survival? (That's what I'm trying to learn). Are plants different from animals in the eyes of infinite love? The vegetarian thing is one example, but realistically, where does love stop?

I find it better to say, "Infinite Consciousness is true and everything else is a construct of Infinite Consciousness." Morality is different than Spirituality. It can be connected but is not needed. Similarly, religion can be connected to Spirituality but is also not needed. From what I understand, the, "Christian view," and much of the, "New Age," view do not agree with this truth. While I do hold to a morality, I do not see morality as imperative. I do not see morality as empirical. Morality is a choice.

All things are consciousness. Thus, eating the plant is the same as eating the animal in that sense. Which is why I'm not a vegetarian as it is hypocritical at that level. Now, if we only eat things that come from animals that are not killed for it and not treaded badly that might be described as consistent. One might also describe eating things like apples that have been dropped from trees treated well as consistent too.

I eat meat because I decide that I like the taste. It is killing a conscious being. I do not deny that.

ultrafrigid
06-04-2010, 08:58 PM
I also believe that humans are supposed to evolve to a state of light-being where they would not need physical food for sustance but could live by sun energy.

I thought we'd live purely off metaphysical energy. It makes sense to me. Somewhere between an upgraded body-spirit conduit and a higher-wavelength conscience I doubt we'd be nearly as restricted by gravity, oxygen, food, water, etc. if at all.

phildee3
06-04-2010, 09:28 PM
I think it all comes down to giving thanks.
Whether animal or vegetable, a living being is content knowing that it's life will continue in yours if it's taken in loving thanksgiving.

pythaem
06-04-2010, 09:38 PM
thank you all very much for the responses :)

agrael
07-04-2010, 12:08 AM
yes. love is infinite. Everyting exists because of this energy we call love. We are all loved. Even the bad people are loved. Even the "evil"guys reptilians that manipulate - are love in essence. Thing is . God, Atman, Universe, Cosmos is so big its like a living organism , that loves his cells. If u have a pet dog or any pet - that is god - giving unconditional love. Its god, in the form of that animal - he knows only he is the dog - but unlike us humans , it , he can give love with no condition - and anger if u piss them off :P.
When "LOVE" stops, Universe does not exist anymore.
Some1 said i dont know where - if God would loose his trust for one moment, everything will dissappear instantly.

innerlight
07-04-2010, 12:27 AM
love never stops IMO. I do believe Sir Icke has a point with his "all there is is love" theory.

and to reach this next plane or whatever, our disdain for the darkness prolly needs to be turned into a higher state of love in order to complete the journey.

oh. and I love you :)

iwant_tobreak_free
07-04-2010, 12:35 AM
love never stops IMO. I do believe Sir Icke has a point with his "all there is is love" theory.

and to reach this next plane or whatever, our disdain for the darkness prolly needs to be turned into a higher state of love in order to complete the journey.

oh. and I love you :)

yeah, when they say i look like i have aids..when i havent. im just thin and unhealthy.

when they say that..out comes the ass whooping.

innerlight
07-04-2010, 12:44 AM
yeah, when they say i look like i have aids..when i havent. im just thin and unhealthy.

when they say that..out comes the ass whooping.

don't get it. what makes u look like an AIDS person?

what's the ass whooping change?

somethinganonymous
12-04-2010, 05:11 AM
Note, I have no "point" to make, just asking questions to exercise the learning muscles.

So, is love truly infinite? For example, vegetarians are often respecting the consciousness and feelings of animals. However, plants are also living things. Everything is conscious, yes? So, is that where love stops? In that situation, we are killing plants and digesting them, the same way others do with animals. If everything is conscious, everything has self-awareness, infinite love is the only truth, is this hypocritical?

Obviously we have to eat something to survive. But is there any other response to this? Any other explanation aside from survival? (That's what I'm trying to learn). Are plants different from animals in the eyes of infinite love? The vegetarian thing is one example, but realistically, where does love stop?

Obviously??

What about breathianism? To sustain energy and procure foods by mannah, or the sun... To live off of the sun and never have to digest ANY living beings ever again... Something to look into, maybe?