To kick shit or to not kick shit...

[pigpot]

What exactly are we waiting for........

I am unaware of any preformulated plan that "we" have. Maybe we'll just wait and make more we posts until the time when we can't. F..king hell people let's have a go for Creation's sake..............

pigpot;)

[pigpot]

Who's first and in what way?

[bigus_dickus]

plants like to eat shit.. and then we eat the plants who eat our shit. but i don't wanna get my boots dirty.

[tinmenace]

What exactly are we waiting for........

I am unaware of any preformulated plan that "we" have. Maybe we'll just wait and make more we posts until the time when we can't. F..king hell people let's have a go for Creation's sake..............

pigpot;)

What are you suggesting?

[dondaz]

What are you suggesting?

Indeed!

[whitenight639]

What exactly are we waiting for........


numbers my friend number, when there are enough of us not to fail.

[pigpot]

Okay, I'm no lefty wearing my Tooting People Popular Front badge but I look at a younger generation of my kid's generation and I think they should be able to have a life.

So I look around to see what mechanism there is to allow me to begin a "work" or "movement" or something of change, and then I find David Icke, I read much of his books, and take on much of his theories, then I find I am located on a website, full of people, some who are entirely with me but wish to keep on bleating how bad things are but cannot do anything about it and others who say how bad things are and will not do anything about it............

Do YOU wish to change anything.... If so how....Remember NO violence in any way, let's make it a bit Ghandified.

Answer my prayers and stand up with me..... Then we can talk and organise.....................................

pigpot

[synergy777]

non violent protest/marches with an intelligent articulate approach,

a case against the elite presented in a legalistic manner, with supporting documentation highlighting/outlining/proving their nefarious plan for world government.

a polished media campaign, films, music, art.

an intellectual/spiritual evolution/revolution.

basically do what they do, but do it better with more class, finesse and skills, lol use their tools/methods, they shall be architects(masons) of their own demise, lol

[phoebe]

What exactly are we waiting for........

I am unaware of any preformulated plan that "we" have. Maybe we'll just wait and make more we posts until the time when we can't. F..king hell people let's have a go for Creation's sake..............

pigpot;)

I dunno about everyone else
But I ain't waiting for shit...
Just Be every day
What more is there?

Buttering the Sky


Slipping

On my shoes,

Boiling water,

Toasting bread,

Buttering the sky:

That should be enough contact

With God in one day

To make anyone

Crazy.

[rossus]

look this guy did a good job if you ask me.
he organised a "march for truth" not long ago.

http://www.virb.com/unitedfortruth
if you click on view the stories you see more videos.



the thing is, as far as i know there isn't a new march coming anytime soon.
while in reality, they should do a march like that Every month or so.
and make a website with some good information on it.

with good information i mean,
not a website saying "the illuminati devil worshippers own our fucking asses"
the information must be swallowable for newbies so more people would get into the shit.

a website that points out the ridiculousness of materialism,
where all the taxmoney goes too,
how nature gets screwed, etc.

[synergy777]

i got an email today from stop the war, there is march on october 8th, to protest against war and the erosion of civil liberties. mark thomas the comedian will also be there.

http://www.stopwar.org.uk/

http://www.stopwar.org.uk/index.php?option=com_content&task=view&id=346&Itemid=27

Monday 8 October 2007: March to Parliament, in defiance of the ban
MONDAY 8 OCTOBER 2007: MARCH TO PARLIAMENT, IN DEFIANCE OF THE BAN

Tony Benn, Brian Eno, Mark Thomas, Walter Wolfgang, George Galloway and Ben Griffin (ex SAS trooper) will head the march to Parliament in defiance of the ban. Make sure you are there to demand troops out and in defence of our civil liberties. It is vital that we defy the ban. Don’t miss this demo.

Assemble at 1.00PM in Trafalgar Square

“If they are planning an Iranian attack they will have a public even more upset and disgruntled than before. This is what this tightening up is about …..Civil liberties never seem very important until you need them. At times like this we need to be re-inforcing them.” Brian Eno

“This is rather a ham-fisted attempt to prevent us from demonstrating. What they (the government and police) do is up to them. We will just ignore them and we have the moral and logical high-ground. I will be marching on Monday 8 October.” Mark Thomas


The 1839 Sessional Orders legislation has been dusted off to ban the 8 October Troops Out march.

Sessional Orders are passed at the beginning of every Parliamentary session under an 1839 law to ensure free passage for MP’s to arrive and depart from Parliament. Similar Orders apply to the House of Lords.

Under the 2005 SOCPA legislation any march / demonstration in the vicinity of Parliament must be allowed to take place so long as a minimum of 6 days notice is given to the police.

Something more restrictive was needed so the 1839 legislation passed many years before this country had universal suffrage is now being used to attempt to ban the 8 October Troops Out march.

Since the march to Parliament is intended to be a peaceful attempt to alert Parliament to the feeling of the majority of the British public about the wars and occupations in Iraq and Afghanistan and MP’s themselves will be on the march this cannot be interpreted as obstructing the passage of members of Parliament.

To do so is an affront to the democratic rights of the people of this country and this is made clear in Tony Benn’s letter to the Home Secretary which he delivered on Monday 1 October.



Tony Benn's letter to the Home Secretary

TO:

The Right Hon Jacqui Smith MP
Home Secretary
House of Commons
London
SW1A OAA
Monday October 1st 2007

Dear Home Secretary

LOBBY OF PARLIAMENT ON OCTOBER 8th

I am writing to you as President of the STOP THE WAR COALITION, to give you advance notice that there will be a demonstration in Trafalgar Square the day Parliament meets calling for the immediate withdrawal of all British troops from Iraq and Afghanistan at which I shall be speaking along with others.

Afterwards many of those present – including myself – will be marching along Whitehall to the House of Commons to meet MPs and urge them to support this call for a withdrawal, as I shall be doing in approaching Malcolm Rifkind my own local MP.

We shall be doing this in an orderly manner and I am making available to those who wish to have one, a postcard over my printed signature as a Privy Councillor, asking the police, and others to assist them.

I enclose a copy of this postcard.

The authority for this march derives from our ancient right to free speech and assembly enshrined in our history, of which we often boast and which we vigorously defended in two world wars.

I am copying this letter, and its enclosure, to Jack Straw, the Commissioner of the Metropolis, and as a courtesy, to the Prime Minister’s office.

I hope that you will be able to re-assure me that those who demonstrate and march down Whitehall will enjoy your full support and the support of the police.

But it is only fair to tell you that the march will go ahead, in any case, and I will be among those marching.

Yours in peace

TONY BENN



Sessional Orders from 1839

“ORDERED, That the Commissioner of Police of the Metropolis do take care that the passages through the streets leading to this House be kept free and open and that no obstruction be permitted to hinder the passage of Members to and from this House during the sitting of Parliament, or to hinder Members by any means in pursuit of their Parliamentary Estate; and that the Sergeant at Arms attending this House do communicate this Order to the Commissioner.”

[vienna]

What exactly are we waiting for........

I am unaware of any preformulated plan that "we" have. Maybe we'll just wait and make more we posts until the time when we can't. F..king hell people let's have a go for Creation's sake..............

pigpot;)

this reminds me of that Mi5 trap that got those asians arrested a few months back by tricking them into starting a 'terrorist' group during a message board debate much like this

the solution is to simply stop participating in their system , they expect riots. etc in the future with think tanks set up to predict our reactions to their plans

the only solution is complete rejection of their whole created matrix - its a long gradual process but it's possible

[pigpot]

I think we'll stop participating in the system as much we can. That's pretty much all we can do and probably the best of a bad bunch of options.

I think it's pretty hard though with all the "life" traps set up for us, mortgages, transport, banking, jobs etc. All the things they have set up for us at birth to trap us.

I agree with vienna about the Mi5 thing, you get one nutter on the web who lures a group of like minded people and then bang the government has another news story which they can feed to the people which shows they "were right" in advancing their agenda and people shouldn't fear fingerprinting and national databases with all our records on.

That's it!! I'm not worrying anymore, I worry most days about the future but I'm not worried anymore.

There is no more fear on my part any more, I am just going to relax.

pigpot........

[joss classey]

do you not understand?

in every action we make. every word we utter

we are driven by our ideas.

what some may do that appear insignificant

boils inside that energy for justice that all is relative

and will eventually be released

in one way or another

[dondaz]

non violent protest/marches with an intelligent articulate approach,

a case against the elite presented in a legalistic manner, with supporting documentation highlighting/outlining/proving their nefarious plan for world government.

a polished media campaign, films, music, art.

an intellectual/spiritual evolution/revolution.

basically do what they do, but do it better with more class, finesse and skills, lol use their tools/methods, they shall be architects(masons) of their own demise, lol

Count me in, but I'll leave you to do the talking synergy!

Good thread pigpot. Would like to do more for freedom. I like to make films so I could film and edit it all. So what the plan then?

What we gonna be called 'Ickes Forum Fighters.':rolleyes:

[pigpot]

I'm aware of the fact that we need to make a highly polished, documentary for international television consumption. Use their own weapon against them. Totally peacefully, but so flawless that no hole will be left uncovered, flawless.

Considering whether or not to include any of our own disinformation or not, War of the Worlds style, haven't really thought that through yet. It won't matter anyway as they'll be ready for that as they include so much of their own to subvert the masses.

Must be totally peaceful as opposed to what they always deliver.

Remember, flawless television production, something along the lines of Super Size me. Where we go straight to the top, to be tazered or not...

pigpot.............................