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king
04-10-2007, 07:34 AM
i think that if we can overcome fear -- we would be home free


http://img512.imageshack.us/img512/5190/eeevh1.jpg

has anyone of you reached this level that you trully have no fear of
life, death, God/reptilians, Devil/Satan, Illuminati/PTBs?


be honest now and tell how close you think you are to being able to fully conquer the fear.

I think i am getting really close and i do not fear much nowadays.
i figure what will have to happen -- will happen.
so, how is fear going to help me there?
why fear then?

synak
04-10-2007, 07:49 AM
I'm not there yet but I feel that as my awareness rises I am steadily reaching that point. Soon....

h1s_l0rdsh1p
04-10-2007, 07:51 AM
Because this is suppose to happen.

Fear is used in no matter what you see. Even on here, fear is used to make us rebel.

The problem is, is that we've lost our connection, and that we've lost our knowledge of where we came from.

Do not see this as a problem though. If you fail once, it doesn't mean you will be damned. Just come back, and try again.

The Illuminati has won.. in a sense.. Many of use jsut refuse to see it. But it doesn't mean it's bad. It's suppose to happen. And once it's over, it will happen again. New faces, same plan. But it doesn't mean you have to fear it. The only thing we can hope for, is that our great great grandchildren will learn the path as we are.

-HL

lizzy
04-10-2007, 08:03 AM
Sitting in comfort here we are analysing our level of personal happiness, acceptance and raising conscienousness. Throw us in some secret CIA hell hole and then judge our fear.
I have fear because I have lost my sense of community here in the USA.
But is all getting better since I found a little 'home" here.:D

hutanic
04-10-2007, 08:24 AM
once upon a time i was on such level. Indeed overcoming fear is what sets u free, for one knows nothing can happen to him/her. But not as in enraged state when fear is suppressed by anger but in such way that one has knowledge that fear is just product of contact with illusion.

U ask why fear? No reason for it, accept ones state of mind, for it is not based on logic but emotion.

freedomnonfighter
04-10-2007, 08:25 AM
Yep, that's what this process is all about- Fear. :)

Can honestly say I no longer have a fear of death.
I've had my run-ins with death, and a NDE... I know death and it's nothing, honestly.
Oh so you mean I am leaving this tiny frequency range? Oh boo hoo.

I'm sure if I saw a reptilian I would be temporarily paralyzed/startled/scared.. for sure.. but only if I immediately got/felt bad vibes from it.

But I only 'know' what I 'know' about reptilians from what other people have said... so I really don't know for sure about them or their nature or their history outside of that. So I'd try to treat it like it is, a new experience... greeting the experience with as little prejudice as possible.

But for a 'negative' event to happen, fear has to be there first anyways. So it's kind of an awkward question to begin with :) But it will only continue if you perpetuate it yourself by feeding the fear with more fear.

But, even if you're in a state of fear... as long as you've Realized Yourself, then you'll always know, deep down, in whatever situation, Who you really Are, the Nature of your Self and Everything... so there is comfort there, even if in panic / negativity.

Never forget, Light removes Darkness. Be it, Use it :)

rossus
04-10-2007, 09:53 AM
i used to be quite heavily social anxious for years.

the reason why fear turned into a constantly reocurring phobia,
is probably because my brain has made the connection so much that it automatically flashbacks to it.
it's the same mechanism as wanting a cigarette or wanting sugar.

yesterday there was a social anxiety situation, and there was the same fear i used to have... but i'm not bugged by it...
there is fear, but i'm not affraid. (and when you're not affraid, fear never becomes a big thing)

fear is that thing of the body.
problems of the body can only hold you captive,
as long as you believe yourself to be the body... or the mind thinking it thoughts. (which is also the body = the brain)

but you are not that body, you are that which remains when you have disidentified yourself with anything you can identify yourself with.
when disidentification takes place from everything...
that which remains is pure you... simple awareness.
forever unattached, unwanting, unfearful, empty of thought... but Filled with love.

when you know yourself as your true self,
problems of the body like fear may continue to arise now and then...
but they no longer bug you.

there can be fear but you're not affraid...
you never were afraid to begin with.

the personality that was affraid was an imagination.
same applies for all other emotions...

anger or "love" (as in person to person).
they're all stories with a beginning and an ending.
stories that can only take place when you believe you are that body with it's thoughts.

selfrealized does not mean that anger, love, fear or joy... you will never experience again.
but you will recognize them as temporary stories of imagination... with your ass firmly rooted into permanent unmoving reality of Self.

to be permanently free from the negative illusion, you will also have to give up the positive illusion. because you can not have one without the other http://skepdic.com/graphics/yinyang2.gif
from wanting the positive, you create the negative
from believing there is the positive, you create the negative
from believing there is the negative, you create the positive
duality is your fantasy.
sometimes a dream sometimes a nightmare, never reality.

this is probably what is meant with the buddhist wheel of reincarnation http://www.rainbowdharma.com/assets/wheel.gif
one time you exist as the one who experiences pleasure,
next time you are reborn as the one who suffers from pain.

and these reincarnations keep having place (in the same life!) until you are tired of it...
and start becoming aware of your Self not as the imagined personality that is experiencing "positive effects" of pleasure and "negative effects" of pain,
but as that which is free from it.

http://zoekt.web-log.nl/photos/uncategorized/buddha.jpg

auron
04-10-2007, 10:09 AM
They are about as frightening to me as having no rolling papers left.

http://www.freewebs.com/amberleaf2007/humour.htm :D

bigus_dickus
04-10-2007, 12:05 PM
overcome what? myself? fear is illusion. ;)

bigus_dickus
04-10-2007, 12:06 PM
They are about as frightening to me as having no rolling papers left.

:eek::eek::eek:

auron
04-10-2007, 12:09 PM
:eek::eek::eek:
Lol!! Perhaps i should have phrased it better; They have no power over you, unless you believe it.

It's that simple.

Aim to be like this dude here....

http://************************.org/files/infinitelove/logos/logo_phpBB.gif

edit
04-10-2007, 12:10 PM
A humour thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=80&page=96) A tiger and Himalayan Black Bear cub are seen in London Zoo in this handout file photograph taken in London in April 1914 and made available on October 1, 2007. This picture is part of the Zoological Society of London's photographic archive that it has made available to be viewed online at www.zsl.org/printstore . Photo/Zoological Society of London

http://www.allhatnocattle.net/tiger-black-bear.jpg

bigus_dickus
04-10-2007, 12:18 PM
Lol!! Perhaps i should have phrased it better; They have no power over you, unless you believe it.

It's that simple.

i meant... to run out of rolling papers, that's something to fear about. :)

Aim to be like this dude here....

http://************************.org/files/infinitelove/logos/logo_phpBB.gif

i am not aiming anywhere, except when i want to pee :)

freedomnonfighter
04-10-2007, 09:28 PM
i am not aiming anywhere, except when i want to pee :)

lol :D