society and me..

[hmz16]

Hello all, my first post here. first I'd like to thank You, and myself for having "woken up" at this magnitude..
I'd like to tell you My story.
I'm a 16 year old male living in Holland,
and I'm a bit worried about my life now that I have acknowledged and accepted the undeniable truth of how society is set-up..

example, I talk to my teacher about shadow governments, manipulation of the mind, and she just responds with "No, we live in a free Democracy, we vote on who governs our country", I kept pushing the info to her but she just dismisses it, at a certain point she said "This is how society is, you cant do anything about it.." I couldn't imagine talking about this with other classmates, as they are too busy having the coolest clothes, the newest BlackBerry mobile telephones, or being a gangsta-from-the-streets, they would laugh at my face if I came with this "conspiracy-nonsense" to them.

I talked with my mother about this, and she is too busy watching television shows, soaps, and other illusion entertainment. If she does have time, she just says "THAT'S LIFE" and she doesn't care about politics..
It's the same with my family, I talked with my cousin about this, even though he had vague knew-abouts of the Illuminati etc, he still dismissed me as a freak that believes in conspiracy theories, saying that Obama is a good guy, and that nobody controls him, etc.

The point is, I am surrounded by a local society that rather cares about the latest music, clothes, and phones or rather then politics and what happens in the world, i am just sad watching them.
how do i go on with my life? I feel lonely, what do I do?
This might sound like im exeggerating, but here in my city people don't care, and people dont know..
they are too busy looking like a super model etc.. I hope you get my point
i feel very lonely, at home i am just doing research, outside its just.. "acting" as if im a "normal" person and not talking about these "conspiracy theories", so i get to be "fit in" in the "normal society"..
and I cant just set my self free, I really want to get away from school, I want to break away from this prisonlife, the indoctrine of school's "eduction" which only preaches left-brain stuff, which teaches you that this physical world is the "Real thing", but I love my mom and she doesnt me to get in trouble at school, just doing my best and let a piece of paper (exams) decide my path in life, furthermore you MUST go to school, its the law, etc.. I am just stuck, my heart wants to be free from this world.. but society is keeping me in a dumb state!

any tips? how do I go on with this life? do I just act like im a "normal" zombie-slave of society and finish school or what? People here dont care about politics, and don't know alot about it either.. let alone the shadow governments!

sincerely...a worried guy
(sorry for my rubbish English)

[freckles]

Welcome to the desert of the real :D :D

Its not easy bud, thats for sure. The answer is different for everyone. I think most people on the forum understand to some extent what you are going through so youre not alone by any means :)

Be grateful that you have seen the light. If you stay positive you will be surprised how the universe will start working with you. People will start coming into your life who have the same interests as you. You would be very surprised how many people actually are aware of whats going on!!

Follow your instincts and things will start falling into place. Dont see it as 'normal' or being a zombie slave. If you want to finish school and feel you should .. do it!! If you dont.. dont :) Ok, so its never as simple as it seems but if you try keep the bright side out you will attract brightness :) :)

Take it one day at a time and see the beauty in the world around you.. There is some left you know ;)

[wasd]

I'm just like you, 17 years old. Not sure what to do either about this situation.
I have 2 more years in school and after that i will take a brake from society or something like that.

[ekim]

I don't suggest dropping out of school, but it was my only solution
to my problems at the time.

I am 31 years old now, have a partner and 2 children. I work as little as possible yet still provide for my family. It's very tough at times but this
allows me much more time to spend with my family and to work on myself.

I have learned so much since leaving school, and to be honest I seem much
better off than my "educated" peers.

Live life from your heart and you will be fine.

[cosmo1]

hmz16 and wasd, you are lucky to have woken up so early -confusing and frustrating as it may be.

As freckles said, try and stay positive, you attract what you give out imo.

Keep on learning new stuff, be strong and most importantly, be true to yourself - and keep an open mind.

This road is certainly no easy one - and lonely much of the time. And even though this forum is very diverse, i have found it to feel like home; don't give up with it, just take what you want from it and be tolerant and loving and it'll be all good :).

Keep loving your mum - and others, and remember, sometimes it takes people a long, long time to 'wake up', so there is hope; never give up :).

hmz16, your English is great :D

Love and Strength x

[unenlightened_waffle]

Welcome to the world!

I had an experience when I was 17 but instead of facing it and learning, I did not start facing the truth and I basically became the person I knew I never was. Sadly if you live this way you will be woken up by a increasing number of emotional disturbances, luckily I woke up before it was too late... unless it is never too late :confused:

Stay away from as many forms of escapism as possible and here is a few things that if someone had told me a couple of years ago it could have helped me wake up with less bumps.

Do not believe anything your read! (that includes this) absolutely nothing, by agreeing or disagreeing with anything you read you are not using your reason. Think of the topic on your own and come to your own decision.... but here is another kicker the reason you come up with will probably not be the same as it will be a year later, so be flexible and admit you could be wrong on a daily basis.

Look at your weaknesses - everyone has them and try's to hide them, do not hide them, accept that you have these problems and admit it to yourself and others. This will give you the impetus to change.

Dont worry about other people not listening to you, people are so fixed in their views that they refuse to change be the opposite listen to other people and learn and do not judge.

Finally have a hobby or two, something to occupy your mind while you are growing.

Hope this helps :)

[wasd]

Thanks for the hints unenlightened_waffle. I think I'm rather close to what you describe and I've found that way myself :)

[azureangel]

And thanks everyone who posted with such compassion and understanding. I too would suggest you finish high school, if just to have a better array of choices in the "marketplace" for now. I believe as David Icke does that we have a big beautiful change coming. However it may take awhile. Please stay on the forum and ignore the trolls and thrill-seekers. :rolleyes: If you have the opportunity to get out in nature and/or grow food this helps a lot. Earth is healing and changing and she'll help you to stay grounded and focused.
Love, angel

[blackster]

And thanks everyone who posted with such compassion and understanding. I too would suggest you finish high school, if just to have a better array of choices in the "marketplace" for now. I believe as David Icke does that we have a big beautiful change coming. However it may take awhile. Please stay on the forum and ignore the trolls and thrill-seekers. :rolleyes: If you have the opportunity to get out in nature and/or grow food this helps a lot. Earth is healing and changing and she'll help you to stay grounded and focused.
Love, angel

^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^^

Great advice :)

[ufochick]

Hello all, my first post here. first I'd like to thank You, and myself for having "woken up" at this magnitude..
I'd like to tell you My story.
I'm a 16 year old male living in Holland,
and I'm a bit worried about my life now that I have acknowledged and accepted the undeniable truth of how society is set-up..

example, I talk to my teacher about shadow governments, manipulation of the mind, and she just responds with "No, we live in a free Democracy, we vote on who governs our country", I kept pushing the info to her but she just dismisses it, at a certain point she said "This is how society is, you cant do anything about it.." I couldn't imagine talking about this with other classmates, as they are too busy having the coolest clothes, the newest BlackBerry mobile telephones, or being a gangsta-from-the-streets, they would laugh at my face if I came with this "conspiracy-nonsense" to them.

I talked with my mother about this, and she is too busy watching television shows, soaps, and other illusion entertainment. If she does have time, she just says "THAT'S LIFE" and she doesn't care about politics..
It's the same with my family, I talked with my cousin about this, even though he had vague knew-abouts of the Illuminati etc, he still dismissed me as a freak that believes in conspiracy theories, saying that Obama is a good guy, and that nobody controls him, etc.

The point is, I am surrounded by a local society that rather cares about the latest music, clothes, and phones or rather then politics and what happens in the world, i am just sad watching them.
how do i go on with my life? I feel lonely, what do I do?
This might sound like im exeggerating, but here in my city people don't care, and people dont know..
they are too busy looking like a super model etc.. I hope you get my point
i feel very lonely, at home i am just doing research, outside its just.. "acting" as if im a "normal" person and not talking about these "conspiracy theories", so i get to be "fit in" in the "normal society"..
and I cant just set my self free, I really want to get away from school, I want to break away from this prisonlife, the indoctrine of school's "eduction" which only preaches left-brain stuff, which teaches you that this physical world is the "Real thing", but I love my mom and she doesnt me to get in trouble at school, just doing my best and let a piece of paper (exams) decide my path in life, furthermore you MUST go to school, its the law, etc.. I am just stuck, my heart wants to be free from this world.. but society is keeping me in a dumb state!

any tips? how do I go on with this life? do I just act like im a "normal" zombie-slave of society and finish school or what? People here dont care about politics, and don't know alot about it either.. let alone the shadow governments!

sincerely...a worried guy
(sorry for my rubbish English)

I experienced this in the 60's and 70's. I saw as a small child the stupid false way people behaved and the way at that time TV (since we had no internet) was deemed more important than people and things of vast importance. There have always been awakened children. Look for others like you they are out there probably under your nose but pretending.
Don't expect to much of others as they will disapoint you. Hang in there you are not alone.

[wasd]

Look for others like you they are out there probably under your nose but pretending.

I have been thinking about this aswell. Maybe there are lots of people around me that are "awakened" but kinda hides it just like me. Anyone know some kind of sign i can show that "asleep" people wont notice but "awakened" people will think "Hey there's another one!", I cant come up with anything discrete enough myself.

[armoured_amazon]

Hello all, my first post here. first I'd like to thank You, and myself for having "woken up" at this magnitude..
I'd like to tell you My story.
I'm a 16 year old male living in Holland,
and I'm a bit worried about my life now that I have acknowledged and accepted the undeniable truth of how society is set-up..

example, I talk to my teacher about shadow governments, manipulation of the mind, and she just responds with "No, we live in a free Democracy, we vote on who governs our country", I kept pushing the info to her but she just dismisses it, at a certain point she said "This is how society is, you cant do anything about it.." I couldn't imagine talking about this with other classmates, as they are too busy having the coolest clothes, the newest BlackBerry mobile telephones, or being a gangsta-from-the-streets, they would laugh at my face if I came with this "conspiracy-nonsense" to them.

I talked with my mother about this, and she is too busy watching television shows, soaps, and other illusion entertainment. If she does have time, she just says "THAT'S LIFE" and she doesn't care about politics..
It's the same with my family, I talked with my cousin about this, even though he had vague knew-abouts of the Illuminati etc, he still dismissed me as a freak that believes in conspiracy theories, saying that Obama is a good guy, and that nobody controls him, etc.

The point is, I am surrounded by a local society that rather cares about the latest music, clothes, and phones or rather then politics and what happens in the world, i am just sad watching them.
how do i go on with my life? I feel lonely, what do I do?
This might sound like im exeggerating, but here in my city people don't care, and people dont know..
they are too busy looking like a super model etc.. I hope you get my point
i feel very lonely, at home i am just doing research, outside its just.. "acting" as if im a "normal" person and not talking about these "conspiracy theories", so i get to be "fit in" in the "normal society"..
and I cant just set my self free, I really want to get away from school, I want to break away from this prisonlife, the indoctrine of school's "eduction" which only preaches left-brain stuff, which teaches you that this physical world is the "Real thing", but I love my mom and she doesnt me to get in trouble at school, just doing my best and let a piece of paper (exams) decide my path in life, furthermore you MUST go to school, its the law, etc.. I am just stuck, my heart wants to be free from this world.. but society is keeping me in a dumb state!

any tips? how do I go on with this life? do I just act like im a "normal" zombie-slave of society and finish school or what? People here dont care about politics, and don't know alot about it either.. let alone the shadow governments!

sincerely...a worried guy
(sorry for my rubbish English)

Welcome to the forum :)

It can be frustrating when those in our lives are unconcerned with how society really is. One good thing about technology is the internet and online communities such as this, where you can meet like-minded people.

[unusual_suspect]

Welcome to the world!

I had an experience when I was 17 but instead of facing it and learning, I did not start facing the truth and I basically became the person I knew I never was. Sadly if you live this way you will be woken up by a increasing number of emotional disturbances, luckily I woke up before it was too late... unless it is never too late :confused:

Stay away from as many forms of escapism as possible and here is a few things that if someone had told me a couple of years ago it could have helped me wake up with less bumps.

:)

Wow, that is very good advice :)

[redorbluepill]

Hey, welcome to the forum.

I can relate to a lot of what you've been feeling and expressed; though I am somewhat older than you (26.) Before I say anything else, my first piece of advice is, follow your intuion. Your heart knows what is best for you; you know You have your best interest in mind. No matter how many creditials, or amiable appearence, or etc., you can not say the same about someone else with 100% certainty. If what you are reading/hearing doesn't resonate with you, know it is for a reason; even if what you are reading is true, if it does not help you, cast off those things that lower your vibration. When I first started really 'waking up' I became obsessed with NWO, secret societies, etc. I was posting info on them all over my Facebook, gmail status, and etc., and what I have found is that you can not force, logicaly wake up people; if you could; they wouldn't still be alseep; as I'm sure you can attest; we do not live in a logical/rational world. What woke you up? Someone trying to talk sense into you? Or, have you always had those questions in the back of your mind, and over time; has it not been a process; akin to growing up? You can't force someone to mature (though with fact you certainly can sober them up); I think it the same for this.

I've been told, and read that waking up is a journey you must take on your own; it is your path; you can make of that what you will, but I'll share some of what I've been going through. Beforehand I was not a spiritual person, but I'm finding this entire process to be a spritual journey for me. I've gone from a "Cash is King" workaholic to "Wow, the bark on this tree is fascinating." <--true story. I'm much less concerned now about all the negative, and consequently spend much less time on this forum. I found that reading all of this horrible news on the NWO was really just bringing me down; fear = lower vibration. There is good in the world man. There is beauty out there. Look at the night sky. Look at the connectivity of everyhing (i.e. how trees/plants take what you breath out, and give it back to you as oxygen, etc.); there is so much to be fascinated with. We live on a rock, floating around a giant ball of fire, is that not an amazing miracle in and of itself.

You create your own reality my friend. The anchients, and even the text of many of the popular religions, say we must go through these dark times, but they are necesary. I can say personally they have been the single greatest catalyst for positive change in my life. I don't know what will work for you, and I'm rambling at this point, but for me, meditation, personal reflection, learning to listem to Me, have done away with the feelings of isolation, and despair. When you 'get' that you share a bond with all of life, it is quite hard to feel alone. I was feeling down a couple of days ago, and went for a walk. I went down a street I had not been down, and felt my spirits soaring. I approached a house in which someone had an amazing garden set up, and with it being Spring now it was full of life, there were flowers and birds everywhere, and I literally could feel/fed off their energ; it elevated me in ways that words can not describe. Open your heart to the good that is still out there; you can not imagine the positive that will come your way. :)

[ginger_wizard]

Do not drop out of school!

You need to be part of the game to play the game.. Get your exams, earn some money, see what bits of accepted society you like, what bits you dont and then start playing the game by your own rules.

Its nigh on impossible to function outside of all the controls that are placed upon us but until you have experienced them you cannot know how to avoid the ones you do not like, similarly until you have met a certain person you cannot decide whether or not you like them or dislike them, at this point you either choose to be in their company or to avoid them altogether.

Just never forget that the majority of people are inherently good and kind, most people do not like to think outside of their own little box, that is their choice and therefore should be respected as such.

I often wish I didnt know 3/4 of the stuff thats in my head, but once its there you cant remove it. Knowledge is like freedom - bloody scary, use it to your own advantage and dont feel you have to share it all with everyone - some people are just not interested in it.

Good luck and kep smiling

[dalem]

It's good you have woken up and can now see things the way they really are.
Stay focused on what you want in life but don't try to force any opinions on anyone close to you. I tried this with my partner and family and it didn't work.
Instead I went about my life the way I wanted to, now my family and close ones can see what a different person I am and they ask me questions.

They are ready to hear what I have to say because they can see a huge difference in me.

Think of yourself more and not other people, they will come to you sooner or later.

Goed Geluk

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[dark86]

get out of there.... i was in ia similar position a few years ago, i went to mexico to look at all the maya sites, then india to learn yoga and evolve.

with this, all my friends changed.

[unenlightened_waffle]

Hey, welcome to the forum.

I can relate to a lot of what you've been feeling and expressed; though I am somewhat older than you (26.) Before I say anything else, my first piece of advice is, follow your intuion. Your heart knows what is best for you; you know You have your best interest in mind. No matter how many creditials, or amiable appearence, or etc., you can not say the same about someone else with 100% certainty. If what you are reading/hearing doesn't resonate with you, know it is for a reason; even if what you are reading is true, if it does not help you, cast off those things that lower your vibration. When I first started really 'waking up' I became obsessed with NWO, secret societies, etc. I was posting info on them all over my Facebook, gmail status, and etc., and what I have found is that you can not force, logicaly wake up people; if you could; they wouldn't still be alseep; as I'm sure you can attest; we do not live in a logical/rational world. What woke you up? Someone trying to talk sense into you? Or, have you always had those questions in the back of your mind, and over time; has it not been a process; akin to growing up? You can't force someone to mature (though with fact you certainly can sober them up); I think it the same for this.

I've been told, and read that waking up is a journey you must take on your own; it is your path; you can make of that what you will, but I'll share some of what I've been going through. Beforehand I was not a spiritual person, but I'm finding this entire process to be a spritual journey for me. I've gone from a "Cash is King" workaholic to "Wow, the bark on this tree is fascinating." <--true story. I'm much less concerned now about all the negative, and consequently spend much less time on this forum. I found that reading all of this horrible news on the NWO was really just bringing me down; fear = lower vibration. There is good in the world man. There is beauty out there. Look at the night sky. Look at the connectivity of everyhing (i.e. how trees/plants take what you breath out, and give it back to you as oxygen, etc.); there is so much to be fascinated with. We live on a rock, floating around a giant ball of fire, is that not an amazing miracle in and of itself.

You create your own reality my friend. The anchients, and even the text of many of the popular religions, say we must go through these dark times, but they are necesary. I can say personally they have been the single greatest catalyst for positive change in my life. I don't know what will work for you, and I'm rambling at this point, but for me, meditation, personal reflection, learning to listem to Me, have done away with the feelings of isolation, and despair. When you 'get' that you share a bond with all of life, it is quite hard to feel alone. I was feeling down a couple of days ago, and went for a walk. I went down a street I had not been down, and felt my spirits soaring. I approached a house in which someone had an amazing garden set up, and with it being Spring now it was full of life, there were flowers and birds everywhere, and I literally could feel/fed off their energ; it elevated me in ways that words can not describe. Open your heart to the good that is still out there; you can not imagine the positive that will come your way. :)

Hey, am the same age as you and cannot help but agree with everything you have said there. I have gone through a journey and cannot help thinking that the journey will continue until I am gone.. perhaps beyond. Like you I discovered the different conspiracies and realised that what I have been taught and indoctrinated with was perhaps wrong and then tried to imprint these ideas on others, but learning (at quite a rate compared to before I started to become myself) I have come to similar conclusions that the answers we seek are not found in society but within myself and nature.

The friends I had and continue to have, have not changed but my relationships have got closer as a result. The news of any sort whether mainstream or esoteric when negative can have a profound effect on your mental and physical state, so whether there are conspiracy's or whether life is just as it seems, it really is not important to a certain degree, it is how much strength I have to face them and overcome my fears.

Freedom is not knowledge of how we are controlled and is not a continual fight against the outside world but one against my own constraints because I know with each passing day I become closer to escaping the bars in my own mind. I do not know my destiny yet, but I do know that I am not swimming upstream anymore.

On another note, I too have started going for walks, enjoying the fresh air and amazingly use to fear it, fear of why and what people will say! Can you believe that.

All the best :)

[motokeiru]

I suggest you take school for what it is, a load of bullshit but most importantly means to an end and that end is to give you a good job so you can be independent and go/do whatever you like.

I'm sure you'll make good friends online and most likely there are more like you nearby with the same problem, just try to find them.

[ultrafrigid]

My friend, I am 18 years old in high school and experiencing the similar. If you're new to it, welcome. Otherwise, greetings. I've suffered like this since I was a small child, more particularly since I was 12, when I figured out on my own that society and the government was fucked up. It came about because I wasn't well-accepted, either. I never have been and never will. And I have no desire to be, not in a society like this. I don't need anyone's respect, and I don't want it. I want only to pursue the purpose I have in my life, which I have discovered in my own time alone, and I will die for it. I'm giving up everything in my life for this. Not that I have much to give. I never had much, and I've suffered too much to care anymore about what little I still have. There are people all around me like those you described. People who don't care about anything but their own egotistical desires. And then... there are people like you, so rare to find and so precious when they are. I feel sick upon the very thought of my corrupted peers all around me, but I accept everyone just the same. They are people like you and me. They are only following a different path. While it may not bring them to evolution, it's necessary that they suffer, and only then, when they know that pain, that they question the purpose of their life and their choices. This is why we must make people aware. I questioned it all before I suffered the severity of following my ego, and while I don't regret it, it was only after the agony I finally let go - just let go - and followed myself with eyes shut to wherever it would take me. Yet, I was not blind. There is more to reality than what meets the left brain and our five senses, no? Salutations and love to you, my friend. May we meet in time.

[hmz16]

Thanks for all the positive feedback and info.

its just very frustrating for someone who is "stuck" living in a control-grid society surrounded by drones (of which it really looks like). people care more about the latest Rihanna bloopers or Paris Hilton sex tapes, or what new shoes are coming out and what brand clothes are the best, rather then what laws are implemented that strips their freedom away, or the fact innocent Iraqi's/Afghans are being slaughtered and their land being bombarded and raped.
or the Palestinians suffering from Israeli's occupation and aggressive attacks..

to wake up other people, i first figured you need to do it step-by-step.
because if you go "reptilians beyond our frequency control the world you know, and love is the only thing which is important" they will think your a freak. so i tried talking with people, starting off politics and the NWO. I told them what is happening in our world and that he could research it himself if he didnt believe me, but they all act like it isnt true, and that we live in a Democracy and have plenty of freedom, or say "that's life, you cant do anything about it.." as if it is justified or as if these important events are "accidents" or "normal" or "happens in life".. its very frustrating living inbetween people with such a mindset.

to add some: I first noticed something was very wrong in 9/11.
I was a kid and my school had a 10 minut-silence memorial for the 9/11 victims (1 later later) and I told my teacher: why are we praying for the thousands of deaths in the world trade center, while the American military is killing a million more dozens of innocent Iraqi's? why dont we have a memorial for those innocents? she answers with "well terrorists are hiding inbetween the civilians", only for me to figure out later that terrorist groups/organizations have very tight connection with the CIA...
Later I was youtubbing and found some videos about the "NEW WORLD ORDER". a secret society, a small elite group that uses presidents and famous leaders as puppets, fluorided water, wars are not accidents but planned, chemicals in the air.. UFOs.. Illuminati.. Reptilians.. and thats how i got to the point i am now, I did countless hours of research and at first i thought this is crazy, but later I knew this was true. At the end I found videos about David Icke, and something inside snapped.. I was in joy to start telling my friends about this... but you know how it goes:

people of my age (16) care more about being a hot-looking brand-clothes-wearing puberty-hitting hotshot, listening to mainstream music and smoking some. so thats where I hit the concrete wall so to speak..

alot of very wise posts here, and I agree that to win the game I have to play the game.. not run away from it (game referring to the set-up society).
I will do my best, and sometimes the temptation is high when example the teacher is talking about dictatorships or North-Korea, WW2, but I will try to keep myself quiet and fit in the "norm" untill i finish school. I just feel very sad for the teachers, so old and so brainwashed. But I know i need to respect others and myself, and that love is the only thing that matters. It doesnt matter if you have "success" which in this set-up society means being rich, having a house, a hotshot car, etc. in the end all this materia means nothing..

I am just very fond of knowing 1 thing. what happens when one leaves this physical vehicle? I have read about near death experiences, but what really happens? I am very excited to know about what happens after of what the norm calls "death"

[dngrs]

I have been thinking about this aswell. Maybe there are lots of people around me that are "awakened" but kinda hides it just like me. Anyone know some kind of sign i can show that "asleep" people wont notice but "awakened" people will think "Hey there's another one!", I cant come up with anything discrete enough myself.

try using usernames like GeorgeOrwell. a subtle avatar or a .. smart quote about politics. religion or metaphysics in your sig.. but as for real life I don't know how to show you're "awake"

[cedric]

Having a look at the nature of reality and consciousness info helped me when i started to get angry and emotional about what is going on and feeling as if i was pissing into the wind :D

[motokeiru]

Thanks for all the positive feedback and info.

its just very frustrating for someone who is "stuck" living in a control-grid society surrounded by drones (of which it really looks like). people care more about the latest Rihanna bloopers or Paris Hilton sex tapes, or what new shoes are coming out and what brand clothes are the best, rather then what laws are implemented that strips their freedom away, or the fact innocent Iraqi's/Afghans are being slaughtered and their land being bombarded and raped.
or the Palestinians suffering from Israeli's occupation and aggressive attacks..

to wake up other people, i first figured you need to do it step-by-step.
because if you go "reptilians beyond our frequency control the world you know, and love is the only thing which is important" they will think your a freak. so i tried talking with people, starting off politics and the NWO. I told them what is happening in our world and that he could research it himself if he didnt believe me, but they all act like it isnt true, and that we live in a Democracy and have plenty of freedom, or say "that's life, you cant do anything about it.." as if it is justified or as if these important events are "accidents" or "normal" or "happens in life".. its very frustrating living inbetween people with such a mindset.

to add some: I first noticed something was very wrong in 9/11.
I was a kid and my school had a 10 minut-silence memorial for the 9/11 victims (1 later later) and I told my teacher: why are we praying for the thousands of deaths in the world trade center, while the American military is killing a million more dozens of innocent Iraqi's? why dont we have a memorial for those innocents? she answers with "well terrorists are hiding inbetween the civilians", only for me to figure out later that terrorist groups/organizations have very tight connection with the CIA...
Later I was youtubbing and found some videos about the "NEW WORLD ORDER". a secret society, a small elite group that uses presidents and famous leaders as puppets, fluorided water, wars are not accidents but planned, chemicals in the air.. UFOs.. Illuminati.. Reptilians.. and thats how i got to the point i am now, I did countless hours of research and at first i thought this is crazy, but later I knew this was true. At the end I found videos about David Icke, and something inside snapped.. I was in joy to start telling my friends about this... but you know how it goes:

people of my age (16) care more about being a hot-looking brand-clothes-wearing puberty-hitting hotshot, listening to mainstream music and smoking some. so thats where I hit the concrete wall so to speak..

alot of very wise posts here, and I agree that to win the game I have to play the game.. not run away from it (game referring to the set-up society).
I will do my best, and sometimes the temptation is high when example the teacher is talking about dictatorships or North-Korea, WW2, but I will try to keep myself quiet and fit in the "norm" untill i finish school. I just feel very sad for the teachers, so old and so brainwashed. But I know i need to respect others and myself, and that love is the only thing that matters. It doesnt matter if you have "success" which in this set-up society means being rich, having a house, a hotshot car, etc. in the end all this materia means nothing..

I am just very fond of knowing 1 thing. what happens when one leaves this physical vehicle? I have read about near death experiences, but what really happens? I am very excited to know about what happens after of what the norm calls "death"

If I was you I'd skip the reptilian thing all together and don't even mention it, I don't say this just because I don't belive it but because you shouldn't mention it or belive it for that matter without a good deal of proof. Remember extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

[hmz16]

If I was you I'd skip the reptilian thing all together and don't even mention it, I don't say this just because I don't belive it but because you shouldn't mention it or belive it for that matter without a good deal of proof. Remember extraordinary claims require extraordinary evidence.

the "norm" is to believe such theories are extraordinary or unbelievable..
And what decides what the norm is? society. who controls society? I let you figure that one out.

example: you are born as a specie on another planet (or anything else, just a intelligent social creature) and you are being taught since ur birth that everything there is is there, nothing more. throughout the years you see the norm around you, normal folk. if someone would say "The government has found a planet which has alot of life! Intelligent creatures called the Humanbeings!" would the norm of society label him a freak? a conspiracy theorist? a nutjob?

surely the evil ones at the top of the hierachy/pyramid would structure society in a way that when one mensions as example reptilians, that the masses would label it as very extraordinary, weird, unbelievable, because the only thing they experienced in life was the "norm" of which is created by the Elite. (left-brain, reptilian thinking, me me me, school/work-consume-sleep-wake up-repeat).

Id rather watch all theories/facts/plausible theories not subjective, which is hard because we have all been born in a society which is to deem such things as extraordinary as you just said.

Isnt one of the best ways to negate truth to make it look extraordinary/unbelievable/weird? Remember when as a kid that you thought flying saucer shaped UFO's were just fake cartoons? well I'd guess the million sightings each week around the world, with a dozen pictures/videos are fake too..

i hope you get my point. see things not as subjective, but watch the thing from all sides, the big picture.

[abcnick]

and I cant just set my self free, I really want to get away from school, I want to break away from this prisonlife, the indoctrine of school's "eduction" which only preaches left-brain stuff, which teaches you that this physical world is the "Real thing", but I love my mom and she doesnt me to get in trouble at school, just doing my best and let a piece of paper (exams) decide my path in life, furthermore you MUST go to school, its the law, etc.. I am just stuck, my heart wants to be free from this world.. but society is keeping me in a dumb state!

any tips? how do I go on with this life? do I just act like im a "normal" zombie-slave of society and finish school or what? People here dont care about politics, and don't know alot about it either.. let alone the shadow governments!

Hey I've gone through much the same thing as you, so I do really recognize myself in what you describe...

I know a bit about how life can turn out if you don't finish your education (in the normal age that most people do) and can tell you that, well, it doesn't have to turn out terrible, if you have some clear knowing of what your goals are (and how to pursue them), but if not, I recommend trying as best as you can to follow up on your school work. Even if it doesn't have to turn out bad, the likelihood of facing significant problems in "establishing" yourself, without finishing school, is pretty high.

Just my recommendation, don't have to take it as absolute truth, but I would recommend trying to finish unless something completely blocks you from it for some reason..

The somewhat sad thing, is that you will have to learn to juggle the knowledge you have of the world, with living in it and among people who don't have that same knowledge. It doesn't have to be "sad" though, it all depends on perspective.

I recommend dropping the thoughts about making other people aware of these realities that you know about. At least most people close to you - it may seem strange, but it's more likely you will succeed in waking up someone who's almost a complete stranger, than those close to you. To the ones who are close to you, don't talk about those subjects right out and honestly, but rather drop small "hints of knowledge" that is not directly related to the "grand conspiracy," for example trying to tell them that aspartame and fluoride is very negative to their health - stuff like that - WITHOUT starting to talk about Illuminati and other "heavy" conspiracy topics. That might be more successful and actually make them think about what you said, for themselves.

You will have to come to accept that you cannot talk about this to all people, all the time. For many, such topics are either scary, or making them "tired" in a way (reason: they don't wanna hear about it!). Some people simply aren't ready to know about such things or discuss them openly.

Try also to not look down on anyone who knows little or nothing about those certain topics... We are all on an individual journey of life, and for some, those aspects of reality simply aren't (yet) part of their own journey. We should respect and acknowledge that and don't force our views on anyone...

I haven't always been respecting other's boundaries when it comes to knowledge about the conspiracy, Illuminati and so on, myself. So I'm not saying I'm some guru with all the solutions. But I have come much closer to accepting that others have their own realities, knowledge and journey to undertake, and hence not imposing my view on them, is more respectful and a behavior of a higher nature than going about screaming to any available ear about these things....

It is frustrating but we must come to realize not everyone can be on the same terms when it comes to this stuff. Some just aren't ready to be engaged with these "alternative views" (as most people see it) yet.

[1977]

Thanks for all the positive feedback and info.

its just very frustrating for someone who is "stuck" living in a control-grid society surrounded by drones (of which it really looks like). people care more about the latest Rihanna bloopers or Paris Hilton sex tapes
Remember Paris in Greek mythology? He was captivated by superficial beauty, and was unable to see things as they really are.

Do you read about the Trojan war in school? That's where the bloodlines trace their origins, to Troy. Everything has significance.
Hello all, my first post here. first I'd like to thank You, and myself for having "woken up" at this magnitude..
I'd like to tell you My story.
I'm a 16 year old male living in Holland,
and I'm a bit worried about my life now that I have acknowledged and accepted the undeniable truth of how society is set-up..

example, I talk to my teacher about shadow governments, manipulation of the mind, and she just responds with "No, we live in a free Democracy, we vote on who governs our country", I kept pushing the info to her but she just dismisses it, at a certain point she said "This is how society is, you cant do anything about it.." I couldn't imagine talking about this with other classmates, as they are too busy having the coolest clothes, the newest BlackBerry mobile telephones, or being a gangsta-from-the-streets, they would laugh at my face if I came with this "conspiracy-nonsense" to them.

I'm a history major in college and I ace all of my exams and essays simply by writing about things that I'm genuinely interested in, without ever explicitly mentioning conspiracy-related red flags like the "Illuminati" or whatever. A lot of our history isn't really "hidden" at all, and is right there out in the open for people to discover—pay attention in class, question everything, and realize that every event has significance. Most teachers are grateful just to find students who have the ability to think for themselves.

This is what I wish I had done in high school, anyways. The point is, don't jump straight to the "conspiracy" conclusion—give people the facts and let them decide for themselves.

[ultrafrigid]

Try this.

Forsake material distractions, including food and water. Sit quiet, still and alone. Let go of your emotions and thoughts. Remain this way for a few hours. It will hurt. It's supposed to. The pain most likely will last a few hours. The longer you remain, the better.

This will 'wake up' your conscience. Literally and genuinely. When you've reached this point, address all of the problems and questions you've stated here or elsewhere in your mind.

If this seems off-topic, apologies. I'm not accustomed to using external sources for advice. The only advice I give is to take your own advice.

[energi]

Hey I've gone through much the same thing as you, so I do really recognize myself in what you describe...

I know a bit about how life can turn out if you don't finish your education (in the normal age that most people do) and can tell you that, well, it doesn't have to turn out terrible, if you have some clear knowing of what your goals are (and how to pursue them), but if not, I recommend trying as best as you can to follow up on your school work. Even if it doesn't have to turn out bad, the likelihood of facing significant problems in "establishing" yourself, without finishing school, is pretty high.

Just my recommendation, don't have to take it as absolute truth, but I would recommend trying to finish unless something completely blocks you from it for some reason..

The somewhat sad thing, is that you will have to learn to juggle the knowledge you have of the world, with living in it and among people who don't have that same knowledge. It doesn't have to be "sad" though, it all depends on perspective.

I recommend dropping the thoughts about making other people aware of these realities that you know about. At least most people close to you - it may seem strange, but it's more likely you will succeed in waking up someone who's almost a complete stranger, than those close to you. To the ones who are close to you, don't talk about those subjects right out and honestly, but rather drop small "hints of knowledge" that is not directly related to the "grand conspiracy," for example trying to tell them that aspartame and fluoride is very negative to their health - stuff like that - WITHOUT starting to talk about Illuminati and other "heavy" conspiracy topics. That might be more successful and actually make them think about what you said, for themselves.

You will have to come to accept that you cannot talk about this to all people, all the time. For many, such topics are either scary, or making them "tired" in a way (reason: they don't wanna hear about it!). Some people simply aren't ready to know about such things or discuss them openly.

Try also to not look down on anyone who knows little or nothing about those certain topics... We are all on an individual journey of life, and for some, those aspects of reality simply aren't (yet) part of their own journey. We should respect and acknowledge that and don't force our views on anyone...

I haven't always been respecting other's boundaries when it comes to knowledge about the conspiracy, Illuminati and so on, myself. So I'm not saying I'm some guru with all the solutions. But I have come much closer to accepting that others have their own realities, knowledge and journey to undertake, and hence not imposing my view on them, is more respectful and a behavior of a higher nature than going about screaming to any available ear about these things....

It is frustrating but we must come to realize not everyone can be on the same terms when it comes to this stuff. Some just aren't ready to be engaged with these "alternative views" (as most people see it) yet.

Yes, indeed. I started out in the wrong end by accidentally dropping the reptilian stuff out of my mouth when talking to my family. Was keen on bringing out info from TBS since they already knew that I read it.

For other reasons, I fell into a temporary psychosis later due to other stuff. They obviously didn't like it, but ascribed the cause of it to all the wrong things, my Icke books being one of them. :rolleyes:

Now they are even more asleep since everything I do or say that's considered 'alternative' is attributed to David Icke. LOL.


(Reading The Biggest Secret non-stop, only to then do Infinite Love directly after while losing sleep, was not a good way to wake up though. XD)

[energi]

I am just very fond of knowing 1 thing. what happens when one leaves this physical vehicle? I have read about near death experiences, but what really happens? I am very excited to know about what happens after of what the norm calls "death"
Your individual You, that is a manifestation of Infinite Consciousness, leaves this experience.

There ARE ways of altering your conscious state to experience different aspects of the so called 'death' that physical prisoners fear. However, due to your age I recommend that you either wait for them or consult lots of people from different walks of life before considering it.

[motokeiru]

the "norm" is to believe such theories are extraordinary or unbelievable..
And what decides what the norm is? society. who controls society? I let you figure that one out.

example: you are born as a specie on another planet (or anything else, just a intelligent social creature) and you are being taught since ur birth that everything there is is there, nothing more. throughout the years you see the norm around you, normal folk. if someone would say "The government has found a planet which has alot of life! Intelligent creatures called the Humanbeings!" would the norm of society label him a freak? a conspiracy theorist? a nutjob?

Probably but that's not the point, I'm sure there's life out there somewhere but I wouldn't take anyone's word on the reptilian subject without substancial evidence.

surely the evil ones at the top of the hierachy/pyramid would structure society in a way that when one mensions as example reptilians, that the masses would label it as very extraordinary, weird, unbelievable, because the only thing they experienced in life was the "norm" of which is created by the Elite. (left-brain, reptilian thinking, me me me, school/work-consume-sleep-wake up-repeat).

Sure very well, that doesn't mean we will belive everything outside of the norm without any real evidence other than a shaman told me so.

Id rather watch all theories/facts/plausible theories not subjective, which is hard because we have all been born in a society which is to deem such things as extraordinary as you just said.

Isnt one of the best ways to negate truth to make it look extraordinary/unbelievable/weird? Remember when as a kid that you thought flying saucer shaped UFO's were just fake cartoons? well I'd guess the million sightings each week around the world, with a dozen pictures/videos are fake too..

i hope you get my point. see things not as subjective, but watch the thing from all sides, the big picture.

Again it's not about not listening what others have to say about it, just don't take their word for it and specially if you want to spread the world around about this issues you should start by what people can actually see if it's shown to them wich isn't the case with the reptilians if they even exist.

[gorana]

dear hmz16,

you can't change people, if they don't want to be changed. Repeat after me: "you can't change people, if they don't want to be changed" :)

Well, live your life and tell people, who want to listen, the things you know.

And enjoy the ride, you just have this one ticket.

G.

[ambler1980]

It's not your responsibility to change or convince people. If they wanna wake up, the truth will find them.

[flyermay]

Hello all, my first post here. first I'd like to thank You, and myself for having "woken up" at this magnitude..
I'd like to tell you My story.
I'm a 16 year old male living in Holland,
and I'm a bit worried about my life now that I have acknowledged and accepted the undeniable truth of how society is set-up..

example, I talk to my teacher about shadow governments, manipulation of the mind, and she just responds with "No, we live in a free Democracy, we vote on who governs our country", I kept pushing the info to her but she just dismisses it, at a certain point she said "This is how society is, you cant do anything about it.." I couldn't imagine talking about this with other classmates, as they are too busy having the coolest clothes, the newest BlackBerry mobile telephones, or being a gangsta-from-the-streets, they would laugh at my face if I came with this "conspiracy-nonsense" to them.

I talked with my mother about this, and she is too busy watching television shows, soaps, and other illusion entertainment. If she does have time, she just says "THAT'S LIFE" and she doesn't care about politics..
It's the same with my family, I talked with my cousin about this, even though he had vague knew-abouts of the Illuminati etc, he still dismissed me as a freak that believes in conspiracy theories, saying that Obama is a good guy, and that nobody controls him, etc.

The point is, I am surrounded by a local society that rather cares about the latest music, clothes, and phones or rather then politics and what happens in the world, i am just sad watching them.
how do i go on with my life? I feel lonely, what do I do?
This might sound like im exeggerating, but here in my city people don't care, and people dont know..
they are too busy looking like a super model etc.. I hope you get my point
i feel very lonely, at home i am just doing research, outside its just.. "acting" as if im a "normal" person and not talking about these "conspiracy theories", so i get to be "fit in" in the "normal society"..
and I cant just set my self free, I really want to get away from school, I want to break away from this prisonlife, the indoctrine of school's "eduction" which only preaches left-brain stuff, which teaches you that this physical world is the "Real thing", but I love my mom and she doesnt me to get in trouble at school, just doing my best and let a piece of paper (exams) decide my path in life, furthermore you MUST go to school, its the law, etc.. I am just stuck, my heart wants to be free from this world.. but society is keeping me in a dumb state!

any tips? how do I go on with this life? do I just act like im a "normal" zombie-slave of society and finish school or what? People here dont care about politics, and don't know alot about it either.. let alone the shadow governments!

sincerely...a worried guy
(sorry for my rubbish English)

Welcome to the forum,

I know you feel like you are alone (I guess we all did), but soon you will discover (as I did) that a lot of people think exactly as you do, and that many of them live just next to you (just that you don't know it yet).

You will find people just like you, and if it's not by chance try looking outside of your usual circle of people. In the meantime, there's always people here to hang out with and learn a lot of interesting things. :)

[wasd]

I just came to think about this, we only show our true selves on the internet! Sounds stupid to me :D You are supposed to show your true self to family and friends, not random people on the internet.

[infinite tea]

I just came to think about this, we only show our true selves on the internet! Sounds stupid to me :D You are supposed to show your true self to family and friends, not random people on the internet.

Try being your true self in everyday life...it's quite the trip :-)

[armoured_amazon]

I just came to think about this, we only show our true selves on the internet! Sounds stupid to me :D You are supposed to show your true self to family and friends, not random people on the internet.

I always show my true self, warts and all. It is not well received, but meh. :D

[flyermay]

I just came to think about this, we only show our true selves on the internet! Sounds stupid to me :D You are supposed to show your true self to family and friends, not random people on the internet.

I don't think that's the case. It's not that we only talk about this on the internet, it's that most people don't care so we don't even bother most times.

[iwant_tobreak_free]

Hello all, my first post here. first I'd like to thank You, and myself for having "woken up" at this magnitude..
I'd like to tell you My story.
I'm a 16 year old male living in Holland,
and I'm a bit worried about my life now that I have acknowledged and accepted the undeniable truth of how society is set-up..

example, I talk to my teacher about shadow governments, manipulation of the mind, and she just responds with "No, we live in a free Democracy, we vote on who governs our country", I kept pushing the info to her but she just dismisses it, at a certain point she said "This is how society is, you cant do anything about it.." I couldn't imagine talking about this with other classmates, as they are too busy having the coolest clothes, the newest BlackBerry mobile telephones, or being a gangsta-from-the-streets, they would laugh at my face if I came with this "conspiracy-nonsense" to them.

I talked with my mother about this, and she is too busy watching television shows, soaps, and other illusion entertainment. If she does have time, she just says "THAT'S LIFE" and she doesn't care about politics..
It's the same with my family, I talked with my cousin about this, even though he had vague knew-abouts of the Illuminati etc, he still dismissed me as a freak that believes in conspiracy theories, saying that Obama is a good guy, and that nobody controls him, etc.

The point is, I am surrounded by a local society that rather cares about the latest music, clothes, and phones or rather then politics and what happens in the world, i am just sad watching them.
how do i go on with my life? I feel lonely, what do I do?
This might sound like im exeggerating, but here in my city people don't care, and people dont know..
they are too busy looking like a super model etc.. I hope you get my point
i feel very lonely, at home i am just doing research, outside its just.. "acting" as if im a "normal" person and not talking about these "conspiracy theories", so i get to be "fit in" in the "normal society"..
and I cant just set my self free, I really want to get away from school, I want to break away from this prisonlife, the indoctrine of school's "eduction" which only preaches left-brain stuff, which teaches you that this physical world is the "Real thing", but I love my mom and she doesnt me to get in trouble at school, just doing my best and let a piece of paper (exams) decide my path in life, furthermore you MUST go to school, its the law, etc.. I am just stuck, my heart wants to be free from this world.. but society is keeping me in a dumb state!

any tips? how do I go on with this life? do I just act like im a "normal" zombie-slave of society and finish school or what? People here dont care about politics, and don't know alot about it either.. let alone the shadow governments!

sincerely...a worried guy
(sorry for my rubbish English)

Hey dude, it is really frustrating, and you have found a forum here full of people that completely understand your position.

I can advise you to enact cognitive dissonance, agree with your family, society is how it is. You need that because at your age you dont need all this worry, remember youve lived through this for 16 years so i wouldnt worry that something bad is going to happen or that reptilian aliens are going to take over the world anytime soon.
Remember that you are not alone. All my friends think im nuts as well, all my family, everyone. the way to cope is to just continue on as you are. Everytime you bring something up, your friends, your family will disagree with you..thats just how it is, because the world is topsy turvy, everyone thinks the opposite of how it is, and you saying anything to counter that literally hurts them. You are special, unique, just like all of us who are lucky enough to know how the world is. hold on to that. because if anything is gonna happen, some Big event, you will probably here about it on here before it happens.

Whenever something pisses u off, come on, rant a bit.
we'll all join in. but whatever you do, dont go back to your old life, stick with us freaks!!