David Icke - Disinfo?

[wisdomgirl]

Hi everyone,

Like many on these boards we are looking for answers and truth right? And everyone can admit that sometimes it gets pretty hard as to know what to believe and what to trust which is fine because that's what human beings do. We all will find our own path to the truth in different ways that's what i believe anyway, and when looking into the whole NWO, Illuminati ect we come across lots and lots of disinfo and disinfo agents as well. Everyone and everything seems to be contradicting each other, for example jordan maxwell is seen as the most respected and in depth researcher there is, but william cooper stated otherwise in the past, the same goes for zechariah sitchin.

When coming across any form of warning for the disinfo and the disinfo agents david icke always pops up along with alex jones, i don't know what to think or believe now a days it's all very confusing, i know in my heart that was is going on in the world is very very wrong but sometimes get confused with all the disinfo what does everyone else think about this and does it bother you at all?

P.S sorry if i've offended anyone with this thread, i know david icke has many supporters i'm one of them, i just need to question things sometimes that's all :)

[motokeiru]

The truth is hard to find I tend to look at most things as possiblities rather than facts they only become facts when I can confirm them by myself, I have a lot of respect for Will Cooper and after all he died at the hands of the police wich in my book makes him more credible than most, but he too can be wrong about many things and have the wrong impressions on some people just like all of us.

I sure don't trust David Icke that much, a lot of what he says I can confirm from personal experience to an extent like global governament, false flag attacks etc but when he talks about extra dimentional creatures, reptilians and vibrations I just can't take his word for it. I don't have any significant indication that it can be true.

And don't be sorry, we all need to question everything unless we want to become the sheeple David talks about so much.

[dalem]

Wisdomgirl.

Your signature says it all.

If you feel something isn't true, it probably isn't, trust your own instincts and stay true to what you believe in!


Trust your soul and your instincts they will never let you down.

[clearlyenlight]

Yeah, the people that are in the public eye are agents like Jesse Ventura and Alex Jones (http://adventofdeception.com/deception-alex-jones) These guys are trying to create an uprising to justify marital law, many other aspects to the deception.

David Icke does take a different angle, but he was on Jesse's show that airs on tru.tv who is owned by the beast of Time Warner.

And he does covertly preach an uprising this Pat Riot (http://adventofdeception.com/devious-patriot-movement-illuminati) movement.

So he is in the same pig pen, but with a different angle, I would say about half of what he writes is true. And their perception of the Reptilians (http://spiritentities.com/lower-entities-demons) is slightly off, just missing some context.

All people that are popular in the public eye, they are allowed and they are working for the NWO/Illuminati/Zionists. And, they are making money.

[wisdomgirl]

Thanks clearlyenlight, Motokeiru, dalem. Wasn't sure how the thread would be taken with this being the icke site and all :)

It all just makes me wonder why if they are disinfo agents, are these guys ( Icke, jones ect) doing it? It's so annoying when you take in information only to find out by some source that the person in question isn't totally trustworthy. Maybe i'm just naive but it does make sense when you think of jon todd, cooper, springmeier, and some others have either been killed or jailed, while icke and jones, maxwell are still safe and sound writing books and so on.

If icke was a danger he'd should be dead by now, this makes me uneasy. A lot of what icke says i can take in and sometimes agree with, i just find the game a bit sad and cruel.

[clearlyenlight]

The trick is to try to identify what the truth is, and don't get caught up within their lower energies such as what Jones and Ventura are doing by focusing on what the government is doing, it is only makes people angry and fearful.

But that is what they are there for, to keep people in the lower emotions.

And, don't become attached to any of these public new agey preachers.

Then there is not any let downs such as, OMG is was deceived again!

Seeking the truth and letting the rest go without any attachment is best.

[dusthead]

1. I have never ever met a genuine 'disinfo agent'. This is another strange crossover from The Matrix, where people like to believe they are 'outing Agent Smith'. I'm sure secret agents have better things to do than misinform a bunch of people who don't even use their real names on an internet forum [and are thus untraceable]. After all, if agents are a real problem, how can disinfo agents know they are not just talking to other disinfo agents?

2. Certain people take the mickey with satire on this forum. They are jokers, not agents. It amazes me that many comedians on this forum go un-noticed. I've nearly fallen off my chair laughing on several occasions.

3. Some people are just plain wrong. They are not disinfo agents, they are just a bit thick.

[dusthead]

1. I have never ever met a genuine 'disinfo agent'. This is another strange crossover from The Matrix, where people like to believe they are 'outing Agent Smith'. I'm sure secret agents have better things to do than misinform a bunch of people who don't even use their real names on an internet forum [and are thus untraceable]. After all, if agents are a real problem, how can disinfo agents know they are not just talking to other disinfo agents?

2. Certain people take the mickey with satire on this forum. They are jokers, not agents. It amazes me that many comedians on this forum go un-noticed. I've nearly fallen off my chair laughing on several occasions.

3. Some people are just plain wrong. They are not disinfo agents, they are just a bit thick.

Actually I will have to argue with myself here. Someone impersonated David Icke recently didn't they? Damn.

Well, everything I said apart from that bloke [who must have waaaay too much time on his hands!].

[motokeiru]

I think there's a lot of both dusthead, plain desinfo agents and plain stupid. I think a wise person can tell the difference.

You don't have to be a governament/nwo agent to be desinfo either, there are people who are simply loyal to stuff for no reason, I'm sure all of us has met someone before that is just bindly loyal to some brand, it may be clothes, eletronics, cars etc. they are just loyal to it and they will lie to them selfs and others to defend those brands, same with political parties and beliefs, that kind of person isn't a governament agent but can be a desinfo agent anyway for spreading bad information.

[himitsunomiko]

Agents try and strike fear in the minds of the reader, they also like to bring up anti-things. they hum the same tune. get in good with people, so they are accepted by a few, and then follow around whatever meets their agenda of keeping people in a lower level in that particular subject of thought.

Think for yourself, is the answer, cause youll read things that you know are bogus. and dont mind to say something, as this is what the message board communities are for.

[ninny]

you need to ask yourself, if you believe or not. i can say formyself, ive watched several interviews with icke and some things are so brilliant that i sit there and say: thats fucking true. those things have nothing to do with reptiles or shit, its the human spiritual stuff he talks about. and with those infos or confirmation that i think the same way for so a long time it makes icke not a troll. (that does not mean i believe everything, i can not because i did not make the experience) sometimes you need to use your intuition. all of those people were called disinfo agents. i always try to get the little private glimpse of those people. if it feels right, i like it (except alex jones). i didnt find some "spiritual" thing with him. would like to see him more human. thats only my opinion. it can change.

[ninny]

I think there's a lot of both dusthead, plain desinfo agents and plain stupid. I think a wise person can tell the difference.

You don't have to be a governament/nwo agent to be desinfo either, there are people who are simply loyal to stuff for no reason, I'm sure all of us has met someone before that is just bindly loyal to some brand, it may be clothes, eletronics, cars etc. they are just loyal to it and they will lie to them selfs and others to defend those brands, same with political parties and beliefs, that kind of person isn't a governament agent but can be a desinfo agent anyway for spreading bad information.

yes +1
seen that in some youth networks who make stuff against the nwo but are half sophisticated... its very difficult. they work also as disinfo agents. its a matter of communication. we should not throw stones at each other but try to discuss.

[zero1]

1. I have never ever met a genuine 'disinfo agent'. This is another strange crossover from The Matrix, where people like to believe they are 'outing Agent Smith'. I'm sure secret agents have better things to do than misinform a bunch of people who don't even use their real names on an internet forum [and are thus untraceable]. After all, if agents are a real problem, how can disinfo agents know they are not just talking to other disinfo agents?

Shh, don't mess up the thread with your sound logic and common sense. (:D)

2. Certain people take the mickey with satire on this forum. They are jokers, not agents. It amazes me that many comedians on this forum go un-noticed. I've nearly fallen off my chair laughing on several occasions.

Yeah, me too. Often the funniest people on this forum go unnoticed; one thing I've noticed that many conspiracy theorists seem to have in common is a deep intolerance for and suspicion of ambiguity. The ability to recognize seriousness from satire is essential.

3. Some people are just plain wrong. They are not disinfo agents, they are just a bit thick.

Yep.

[stopthemadness]

Ventura is just waking up

Jones is a Zionist deflector

Icke is a light worker trying to change this reality

How can you not see, or rather not feel, the difference?

You chose to post on the Icke forum. Why don't you ask yourself why you chose this.

[nirvana]

We dont really know whats going on. Our thougts and research comes second hand in many cases. We are spoon fed what to believe by people like Icke,maxwell,alex jones,etc.

If you disagree with Icke then his fans will shout you down call you an ass hole a sheeple unawake etc.

If you disagree with Alex jones infront of his fans then they will shout you down call you a sheeple etc

The same goes for many researchers wilcox etc .They all have a small hard core following .And they start to police each other.

What Icke says about truth vibrations I totally agree with. When he interviewed arizona wilde alarm bells started to sound.

All researchers have a element of truth about them and its about discernment knowing the truth from the disinfo.

At the moment the whole moon matrix thingy just seems like a huge smokescreen for the elite but I could be wrong.

The thing about the whole truth movement ,its just sending people around in circles this leads to anger,frustrations people start to think fuck it.

We need direction now more than any other time.:)

[nirvana]

If one more person says how can i be on a icke forum and not agree with everything icke says will get a :mad:

:)

[marcusbrody]

If one more person says how can i be on a icke forum and not agree with everything icke says will get a :mad:

:)

How the hell can you be on Mr. Icke's forum and not agree with most everything Mr. Icke has to say?

[wisdomgirl]

Ventura is just waking up

Jones is a Zionist deflector

Icke is a light worker trying to change this reality

How can you not see, or rather not feel, the difference?

You chose to post on the Icke forum. Why don't you ask yourself why you chose this.

Just because i choose to post on the icke forum doesn't mean i can't question, that would ignorant and i'm not an ignorant person. I didn't say i didn't rate icke i said i was confused about some of the disinfo some put out there.

We can't fully trust anyone, icke says that himself. We have to ask questions to find truth even if it means questioning icke. He asks us to question him!

[clearlyenlight]

Just because i choose to post on the icke forum doesn't mean i can't question, that would ignorant and i'm not an ignorant person. I didn't say i didn't rate icke i said i was confused about some of the disinfo some put out there.

We can't fully trust anyone, icke says that himself. We have to ask questions to find truth even if it means questioning icke. He asks us to question him!

I agree, it is not about who's is named after the forum, it is about learning and deciphering the deception, and all these public figures are phonies. They are a part of the agenda to usher in the NWO. Keep in mind that these control freaks don't want people who are conscious of what is going on, they want the deluded who they can put under their mind control with an easy manor. The idea is to wipe out the "awareness" or people who are "awake" and the illuminati are causing this awakening to occur. Even though people are "waking up" their consciousness level is not increasing, which only causes fear and anger.

All the information that is being release is a part of the preparation (http://adventofdeception.com/category/deception) of the NWO, they want to cause an uprising to justify martial law and keep in ignorant deluded to deceive for their slaves.

There are a lot of people who hasn't heard of the NWO, they have heard of 2012 but most people really don't know what will happen or just don't believe it.

[saty]

bill cooper dead..phil shnieder dead..john todd dead..rik clay dead..dean warwick dead...all the real truth seekers are dead.the only reason why A.J is alive and speaking is coz the illuminati want him to speak.alex works on GCN a network affiliated with ABC which is owned by disney.disney is owned by the ZIONISTS(NOT JEWS).DONT U PEOPLE GET IT order out of chaos.they want to rule the resistance.Alex Jones on the other hand "snuk" into bohemian grove with a hidden cam..... he suck into a covert meeting of the worlds elites, stayed till wel after nightfall and recored the ceremony. he's a fraud people.William Cooper exposed him,as well as Allan Watt.I would add jeff rense,ron paul,ventura,krs 1,leo and others on this list as zionists.You have to understand the best way to beat the opposition is to lead it.

[equinoxboy]

If icke was a danger he'd should be dead by now, this makes me uneasy. A lot of what icke says i can take in and sometimes agree with, i just find the game a bit sad and cruel.

David actually did address this "if you're telling the truth, you will die" theory. From what I recall, he said that we all shape our own destiny, either consciously or by allowing others to manipulate it. He said that he didn't fear the illuminati. It is the same principle as "The Secret", or "Cosmic Ordering". What we focus on is what we will get. If we focus on fear, we will experience fear. Do we look at the darkness, or shine a light. Darkness cannot exist in the presence of light. Now, who was it who said, "Infinite Love is the only Truth. Everything else is illusion" ?;)
I don't think that many people could claim to have the whole picture clearly figured out. There is an old metaphor for Truth Sekking which says;
Three people go into a darkened room and are asked to describe and identify what they find. The first says, "it's a tree." The second, "No, it's a snake." and the third says, "You're both wrong. It's a spear." Then the lights are turned on and they find that they are in the room with an elephant. One was feeling its leg, another its tail and the third had its tusk. They were all trying to describe something that they only had some of the information of and all used their imagination.
Truth Seeking in this world is the same. I know I have had periods of fantastic revelation and described my insights to all and sundry, only to look back and realise that I only had a very limited perspective of an infinite Truth. That's the thing about the Infinite. There is always an infinite amount to learn.
I urge anybody to study David's early pronouncements. It is obvious that he is brimming with enthusiasm and wants to let every body know. The basic foundation of his words is Truth. It is the human interpretation which he puts on that Truth which set him up for ridicule.
Anyway, nobody should take anybody else's word for what reality is. It is up to each and every one of us to take that responsibility for ourselves. We won't find Enlightenment or Emancipation by blindly following anybody. We can thank those who cry out for us to wake up, though. If they are honest Truth Seekers, our awaking is the only reward they would ever want.

[saty]

If icke was a danger he'd should be dead by now, this makes me uneasy. A lot of what icke says i can take in and sometimes agree with, i just find the game a bit sad and cruel.

If icke is a disinfo agent then he is a pretty good one with more than 95% truth aprox.The things i don't like about thim is he said in his book how jesus never existed thus promoting the new age agenda even though he is against it.Another things is quoting sitchin(a heavy disinfo agent) and saying annunaki created human which is false.They only created the black race.

[whatsinaname]

You have to understand the best way to beat the opposition is to lead it.

This sums up things well.

Also, You can only get the desired outcome by controlling both sides.

[gladys]

If icke is a disinfo agent then he is a pretty good one with more than 95% truth aprox.The things i don't like about thim is he said in his book how jesus never existed thus promoting the new age agenda even though he is against it.Another things is quoting sitchin(a heavy disinfo agent) and saying annunaki created human which is false.They only created the black race.

Just because Icke believes that Jesus never existed doesn't mean he is promoting the 'new age' agenda. And the new age agenda (just like all other created diversions by tptb) does have some truths therein otherwise it wouldn't have been taken so seriously. And yes, while David had used to quote Sitchin, he has also stated that a lot of Sitchin's research is not to be trusted.

Also, has anybody considered the possibility that the reason why David hasn't been taken out yet is because tptb know that whilst he remains alive people will consider him a shill/disinfo because of this fact? Its called 'reverse psychology'.

If 'they' bumped him off, it would only add weight to his credibility and his research, which it did to the likes of Bill Cooper.

[saty]

Just because Icke believes that Jesus never existed doesn't mean he is promoting the 'new age' agenda. And the new age agenda (just like all other created diversions by tptb) does have some truths therein otherwise it wouldn't have been taken so seriously. And yes, while David had used to quote Sitchin, he has also stated that a lot of Sitchin's research is not to be trusted.

Also, has anybody considered the possibility that the reason why David hasn't been taken out yet is because tptb know that whilst he remains alive people will consider him a shill/disinfo because of this fact? Its called 'reverse psychology'.

If 'they' bumped him off, it would only add weight to his credibility and his research, which it did to the likes of Bill Cooper.

yes, i don't think icke is disinfo.
The same thing goes for bob lazar.He came out with the truth and they later on tried to discredit them.Agents like stanfords etc...

[ufti]

There is no one in the whole world who knows the complete and nothing but the truth!! How come some people still demand that there are guys like Icke, Swerdlow etc. that know the complete truth? Everyone knows bits and pieces and that's where we are standing.

It's impossible to know everything!

[ragnarok]

+1

There is no magical piece that is going to appear and make the jigsaw complete itself.

[supertzar]

Shh, don't mess up the thread with your sound logic and common sense. (:D)



Yeah, me too. Often the funniest people on this forum go unnoticed; one thing I've noticed that many conspiracy theorists seem to have in common is a deep intolerance for and suspicion of ambiguity. The ability to recognize seriousness from satire is essential.



Yep.

Interesting comment and I think with a lot of people that is true. To me ambiguity defines the phenomenon of unexplained occurrences. It's featured in all cases of high strangeness and I have learned to savor it: the tantalizing evidence, the maddening uncertainty and the transcendence of rigid belief systems their contemplation brings. I've heard it said that genius is being able to hold opposing views in mind simultaneously and I think this is tantamount to "tolerance of ambiguity" taken to a high level.

[gladys]

There is no one in the whole world who knows the complete and nothing but the truth!! How come some people still demand that there are guys like Icke, Swerdlow etc. that know the complete truth? Everyone knows bits and pieces and that's where we are standing.

It's impossible to know everything!

I agree.

The search for the 'truth' is a work in progress for everyone, but then it all depends on what 'truth' you are searching for. And as someone once quite rightly pointed out on this forum, 'truth' is always subjective.

But, if people want a fundamental 'truth' (which is all to often ignored/ridiculed on this forum), then that would be:

"Infinite love is the only truth, everything else is illusion". :)

[oiram]

Don't get to deep into anything! ..... 70% to 80% is enough in most cases!

Don't waist your time with to much detailing because you would need 100 lifetimes.

Don't waist your time with people arguing bullshit points all day long.

Are you looking for the good/positive or bad/negative just pick/filter things out of the lot.

If you have a table full of fruit & half of them are rotten would you take the once which are rotten or the once which are in good condition or would you take the lot if it's you're free choice.

Same with books or any info; take the things which makes logical sense to you personally ... the rest just skip it; how could you go wrong?

Those which say you have to take the good with the bad are total retards, politicians & your controllers ..... Full Stop!

Listen to the good, take the things which make logical sense to you & the rest leave it for others to worry about. Cant go wrong ever with such system.

Don't take the good & the bad because this will just make you running in circles as they have designed it for you. So you stay confused permanently.


It's not about what you like to believe it's all about what YOU like & like to know.


Believe = zero/nothing (zero personal proof)

Rule one: don't believe anyone but yourself!
Rule two: should you start to believe anyone again for what ever reasons go back to Rule one!

Knowing = self experience, knowledge (you have personal proof or logical 1 + 1 = 2 understanding)


It's all about yourself never about others; it's what you do or like; not what others are doing or like!



Here is my system:
Make yourself a personal shopping list but you only can take one item or non but not both. .... Full Stop!

Make you're decision do you like the good or bad ....... take your pick.

Do you like the things which make logical sense to you; or the things which are confusing ........ take your pick.

Do you like to follow yourself or others ..... take your pick.

Do you need idols to live your life or don't you need idols ..... take your pick.

Do you need others or don't you need others ..... take your pick.

Do you like confusing things or don't you like confusing things .... take your pick.

Do you like arguing or don't you like arguing .... take your pick.

..... etc

After you completed your shopping list you just strictly follow it without ever compromising you're own decision .... easy!

If you have a short memory write the things you picked down on paper & take it with you wherever you go!


The baseline for any truth is to understand your own truth.

If you don't know you're own truth don't even try to search for external truth because you will 150% fail & end up on drugs ..... Trust me!

If you cant even create you're own shopping list or know what you like don't even try searching for any truth.
Because you will waist you're short life away!




The Lizard stuff the Moon story:

Could anyone except if I make some equations like this??????

Lizard = Zionists, Ex-Nazi, NWO cabal
or
Lizard = the Controllers representing the Eye of the Pyramid.
or
Lizard = Illuminati, Masons Cabal & bloodlines joint venture!
or
Lizard = A promotion to get me going; also a Man has to make a living!
or
Lizard = lets see if the simple primitive Man is smart enough & uses his logical brain & works out why I used the Lizard description?

Where is all your imaginations people; where is your logical thinking ....... don't you have any???????

Same with your Bible stuff & all books ever written; do you take EVERYTHING literally????? ..... NO BRAIN http://forum.davidicke.com/picture.php?albumid=951&pictureid=9163 NO http://forum.davidicke.com/picture.php?albumid=951&pictureid=9163 PAIN !!!

Or could it be to much fluorite consumption ..... at least you would not need to blame yourself or David for you're confusion?


Still if it turns out there are Lizards all over earth with a bit of luck we should see them one day once they stop being scared of us?




My Personal notes:
Woe, Woe, Woe Perfect Again!.... To many times to just be coincidental.
Are my actions connected, related or synchronized with Symbolic number meanings?
My Posting No. 3666 = 21 & a 666 what does it say Symbolically?
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu21.php
Properties of the number 21

Symbolism
Symbol of [B]the person centered on the object and either on himself.

Number of the perfection by excellence, 3 x 7, according to the Bible.

Symbol representing the unknown superiors or the great spiritual Masters of the humanity.

This number "contains the ratios of the principle of individuality 1 with the cosmic differentiation 20", according to R. Allendy. These ratios would constitute an act of organization - 2 + 1 = 3: "Thus the principle of individuality, placed between the world of the spirit and that the matter, realizes in itself the meeting of both."

Represent the harmony of the creation.

Number representing the union of Trinity, whose result of their common action makes emerge the creation.

For Claude of Saint-Martin, "the number 21 is the number of destruction or rather of universal termination, because, as 2 is separated from 1, it is necessary that it has a means of to unite there if it wants it. This number shows at the same time the command of the production of things and their end, as well in the spiritual one as in the corporal one."

The "21, the highest possible number of 3 in the corporal, is in relation with the spiritual and shows the quality of the renewal", according to Eckartshausen.

Number representing the maturity and the responsibility for an individual. It expresses also the notion of chief.

It is the numbered representation of God and the Temple, and for this reason it is considered by the esoteric texts as a divine number or sacred.
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu20.php

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Properties of the number 666

Symbolism
Represent the perfect Imperfection and also the Impiety without measure.

According to the Bible, the number 666 is the name of a man and this name, indicated by this number, is the name of the Antichrist. Lucifer, the ancient serpent, the devil or Satan, the Red Dragon becomes, in these last times, the Antichrist.

Whom who wants to be above God carry the sign 666, since he wants to be the monkey of God and by then the double of God being representing in symbolic by 2 times 333 since 333 indicates the divinity and the mystery of God.

Symbol of the power or the "divinized" State.

Represents the human Karma, in contact with the cosmic Karma and the divine providential balance, according to R. Allendy.

By bringing number 666 of the 18th blade of the Tarot, 6+6+6 = 18, A. Bertet interprets that as the obscurantism, the black magic, the wandering of the man out of initiation.

Key-number of the life according to Abellio, because it is the result of the sum of the following numbers: 123 + 231 + 312, orderly series, or 132 + 321 + 213, disorderly series. It is the manifestation of the three terms of the Trinity, in the three plans: spiritual, animist and material.

In "The last waltz of the tyrants", Ramtha says that this number is the one of gold. The number 6 is the one of the man who did not overcome his passions yet - the man having 6 members with the tail, 5 being the number of the perfect man with his 5 members, the tail being left. The fact that the beast is associated to the number 666 means that the beast will use the gold to enslave the man having again his passions.

According to Paco Rabanne, it is the seizure of power of calculation on the language, suddenly private of its capacity to make emerge the being.

For Creusot, 666 marks a threshold where it is great time to turnaway from the terrestrial world and prepare to enter in the spiritual world.

Symbol of the perfected nullity and the unkindness, because it is composed of three 6 and that the 6 is the symbol of the imperfection, the evil, the iniquity and the apostasy. According to the messages received by Don Stefano Gobbi of the Priestly Movement of Mary, these three six would mean the communist atheist, the freemasonry and the ecclesiastical freemasonry attacking the Church of the Christ.

For John Phaure, the three six of 666 of the Beast of the Revelation "expresses, among others things, the outcome of all possibilities of the sensitive manifestation, without the possibility to reach the Seven, that is to say to reintegrate the divine Center". J.-J. von Allmen goes in the same way affirming that the 666 "means a triple repetition of the number 6, and therefore a refusal, by counting, to go until 7: the number of the man that does not want to enter in the intention of God and that glorifies himself."

In "The Bible, numbered document", Raymond Abellio proposes "to symbolize the multiplicity by a cone at the top of which would be God and that would turn while being inserted in the matter. It goes without saying that this view is imperfect, since the totality and consequently the Absolute can be conceived only in a perfected symmetry. But it concerns here only the Absolute seen by the man. The cone is a microcosmic structure, but identical to itself in all the macrocosm. Then let us put the number 37 at its top and suppose that the cone lengthens while being inserted and while turning. Its polarization by the space gives 307 whose reversal is precisely 703. There is here, exceptionally, equivalence, to near reversal, between polarization's by the time and by the space. The difference 666 can then be considered as symbolizing the volume of the cone, the whole of the material manifestation."

http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu666.php

[canibus]

All i know is alot of people where put of icke by his reptillian stuff and son of God announcment ect, im sure the dodgy blue shellsuit didnt do him any favourse either but thats not important..


I mean if your trying to inform people about freemasonry NWO ocult knowledge why would ou make yourself look like an ass and mention at the end oh by the way the queen can shapeshift into a 9ft lizard, i havnt giot any [proof ,some woman called arrizona told me .. ffs

[whatsinaname]

I mean if your trying to inform people about freemasonry NWO ocult knowledge why would ou make yourself look like an ass and mention at the end oh by the way the queen can shapeshift into a 9ft lizard, i havnt giot any [proof ,some woman called arrizona told me .. ffs

Yeah, 'cos that's what he bases everything on.:rolleyes:

[canibus]

Yeah, 'cos that's what he bases everything on.:rolleyes:


Its all here buddy


http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=54

[gladys]

All i know is alot of people where put of icke by his reptillian stuff and son of God announcment ect, im sure the dodgy blue shellsuit didnt do him any favourse either but thats not important..


I mean if your trying to inform people about freemasonry NWO ocult knowledge why would ou make yourself look like an ass and mention at the end oh by the way the queen can shapeshift into a 9ft lizard, i havnt giot any [proof ,some woman called arrizona told me .. ffs

1). How do you know for sure that the reptilian stuff isn't true? Just because it sounds too outlandish and incredible for your mind to perceive?

2). I think Icke's research on the reptilian stuff extended a little further than just Arizona Wilder. :rolleyes:

[saty]

1). How do you know for sure that the reptilian stuff isn't true? Just because it sounds too outlandish and incredible for your mind to perceive?

2). I think Icke's research on the reptilian stuff extended a little further than just Arizona Wilder. :rolleyes:

1.because humans have been programmed to believe they don't exist.Condemnation without investigation is the height of ignorance and humanity is very ignorant.

[deepseafishing]

OK. This is my theory on David Icke...

When he says they're reptilians, he's really saying they're HUMAN.

It could be an experiment, to say the most ridiculous things, to really make you realise that our government isn't that bad.

In the process of reading this conspiracy stuff, you may learn more about the world, get involved, and perhaps we will get closer to our leaders as a result.

That could be a good thing for the human species, so we don't feel so isolated and powerless.

[oiram]

OK. This is my theory on David Icke...

When he says they're reptilians, he's really saying they're HUMAN.

It could be an experiment, to say the most ridiculous things, to really make you realise that our government isn't that bad.

In the process of reading this conspiracy stuff, you may learn more about the world, get involved, and perhaps we will get closer to our leaders as a result.

That could be a good thing for the human species, so we don't feel so isolated and powerless.
Sorry if I ask?

What box did you escape from? http://forum.davidicke.com/picture.php?albumid=951&pictureid=9175

that our government isn't that bad.http://forum.davidicke.com/picture.php?albumid=951&pictureid=9170

perhaps we will get closer to our http://forum.davidicke.com/picture.php?albumid=951&pictureid=9170 leaders as a result.

reptilians, he's really saying they're HUMAN ..... good logical point; but I'm sure they are not Human like! .... I'm sure; Humans don't kill & murder others for profit or power control games!

Maybe you're leaders but not ours!!

so we don't feel so isolated and powerless. We?.. I think this is more about you being powerless & maybe even a little scared?

Could it be that you picked the wrong Forum?


Or there is one more logical conclusion for you're post comments .... Is by any chance any of you're family member working in the Government?
This would naturally trigger your protection senses!... Or are you still have a job with them?


I presume from you're comments that you must be Religious minded ..... then this is for you:
Jesus said, "Whoever does not hate father and mother cannot be my disciple, and whoever does not hate brothers and sisters, and carry the cross as I do, will not be worthy of me."

[ragnarok]

I know Gurdjieff used to say outlandish things to his followers to challenge their thinking patterns. Maybe Dave has taken a page from one of his books?

I certainly have.

[mariantisocial]

Interesting comment and I think with a lot of people that is true. To me ambiguity defines the phenomenon of unexplained occurrences. It's featured in all cases of high strangeness and I have learned to savor it: the tantalizing evidence, the maddening uncertainty and the transcendence of rigid belief systems their contemplation brings. I've heard it said that genius is being able to hold opposing views in mind simultaneously and I think this is tantamount to "tolerance of ambiguity" taken to a high level.

brilliant post!

as a default fence sitter, i do not know, even my own felt experience is a blunt tool really, dependant on perspective and past learning. i follow a trail which at any point could have left the truth. i think in the end the willingness to be wrong and the addendum "i reserve the right to change my mind at any time" are important. we strive to minimize dissonance and that very mechanism has us clinging to our beliefs like our beloved brands. follow bliss, energy giving stuff that makes me sit up and take notice. wear belief like a loose coat, lest it strangle you.

[supertzar]

brilliant post!

as a default fence sitter, i do not know, even my own felt experience is a blunt tool really, dependant on perspective and past learning. i follow a trail which at any point could have left the truth. i think in the end the willingness to be wrong and the addendum "i reserve the right to change my mind at any time" are important. we strive to minimize dissonance and that very mechanism has us clinging to our beliefs like our beloved brands. follow bliss, energy giving stuff that makes me sit up and take notice. wear belief like a loose coat, lest it strangle you.

Thanks, mariantisocial. We might be psychic twins! Great comments there that reflect my thinking very much.

[saty]

Sorry if I ask?

What box did you escape from? http://forum.davidicke.com/picture.php?albumid=951&pictureid=9175



lmao

[arch]

When he says they're reptilians, he's really saying they're HUMAN.
He's talking about total reptilians and the reptilian part in humans. Deep down, we're all reptilians. Humans have all kinds of mechanisms to cope with the reptilian part in us and a lot of these mechanisms are at war with the reptilian part in us. So the conflict that we see outside of us is really the reflection of what's happening inside of us. The longer we resist the old reptilian part in us, the longer the conflict persists. The conscious mind is superior in some ways, the unconscious mind is superior in other ways and when they're out of balance, everything becomes kind of 'inferior'. That's why the heart approach is both on the conscious mind and the unconscious mind.

[mariantisocial]

Thanks, mariantisocial. We might be psychic twins! Great comments there that reflect my thinking very much.

ha looking like it,

oops off topic apologies

[arch]

Icke lives on the Isle of Wight. Icke was paid for by Maxwell and last year they talked in public as good friends. Maxwell has very clearly said that he's protected by the Council of 33; the 33 highest Masons in the world. If you actually listen, you hear that nowadays he talks a lot as a member, not just as 'an ordinary man'.

So yes, it can be quite confusing considering Icke does ask people to send love to corrupted, negative places.

[oiram]

He's talking about total reptilians and the reptilian part in humans. Deep down, we're all reptilians. Humans have all kinds of mechanisms to cope with the reptilian part in us and a lot of these mechanisms are at war with the reptilian part in us. So the conflict that we see outside of us is really the reflection of what's happening inside of us. The longer we resist the old reptilian part in us, the longer the conflict persists. The conscious mind is superior in some ways, the unconscious mind is superior in other ways and when they're out of balance, everything becomes kind of 'inferior'. That's why the heart approach is both on the conscious mind and the unconscious mind.
Are you maybe pointing to this reptilian part?

This explanation is definitely needed in the UFO & Alien section Lizard on two legs!
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The brain stem is the oldest and smallest region in the evolving human brain. It evolved hundreds of millions of years ago and is more like the entire brain of present-day reptiles. For this reason, it is often called the 'reptilian brain'. Various clumps of cells in the brain stem determine the brain's general level of alertness and regulate the vegetative processes of the body such as breathing and heartbeat.

It's similar to the brain possessed by the hardy reptiles that preceded mammals, roughly 200 million years ago. It's 'preverbal', but controls life functions such as autonomic brain, breathing, heart rate and the fight or flight mechanism. Lacking language, its impulses are instinctual and ritualistic. It's concerned with fundamental needs such as survival, physical maintenance, hoarding, dominance, preening and mating. It is also found in lower life forms such as lizards, crocodiles and birds. It is at the base of your skull emerging from your spinal column.

The basic ruling emotions of love, hate, fear, lust, and contentment emanate from this first stage of the brain. Over millions of years of evolution, layers of more sophisticated reasoning have been added upon this foundation.

Our intellectual capacity for complex rational thought which has made us theoretically smarter than the rest of the animal kingdom.

When we are out of control with rage, it is our reptilian brain overriding our rational brain components. If someone says that they reacted with their heart instead of their head. What they really mean is that they conceded to their primative emotions (the reptilian brain based) as opposed to the calculations of the rational part of the brain.
http://www.crystalinks.com/reptilianbrain.html

Now there is a group of specific people about 10% of the worlds population which are bound to use this particular part of there brain permanently!
You may know who they are.

Also this should makes your  rethink  what David icke is on about!
But you got to use the right part of your brain to work it out otherwise you will judge others to be nut cases which they are definitely not.

Look at the red highlight this should reminds you on specific people you see all around you and many are presenting them selfs on MSM


So do you know understand what a Politician is & who are the Aliens, Reptilians & Lizards?
Which part of the brain are you all using?
You should be able to work it out except if you one of them

So the new term for sheep is Lizard Brains!

So the next time someone tells you that you are a idiot have a good look it could be a Lizard Brain you talking to!



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Description: Typically, Reptilians are described as 6 to 8 feet tall, bipedal, having scaly green skin, have a bad odor, have large eyes usually yellow or gold with a vertical pupil. They are sometimes linked to myths about ancient astronauts who allegedly came to Earth to seed the planet and promised to return one day. No one is coming back.

Theories involving Reptilian aliens are metaphoric in content, much like other creational myths throughout the programs of reality, weaving together clues to help one figure out humanity's journey in linear time.

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Reptilian humanoids are a proposed race of intelligent, supernatural, or highly developed reptile-like humanoids in mythology, popular fiction, pseudoscientific theories and in the writings of New Age conspiracists. They appear in some conspiracy theories, most notably those of Riley Martin, John Rhodes, David Icke, and in science fiction. Reptoids, a conjoined word defining Reptilian-Humanoid beings, is the most popular name used to describe these cryptid beings, although some authors also refer to them as dinosauroids, lizardfolk or lizardmen. Other names include Draconians, Saurians and Sauroids. They are often described as being green or gold color. Similar to the other cryptids, no one has produced proof of the existence of reptilian humanoids, and allegations of their existence can at best be referred to as cryptozoology or pseudoscience.

Mythological references to reptilian humanoids

Several ancient peoples all over the world have described reptilian beings, and some have described reptilian humanoids. Common in numerous mythologies are tales of reptilian creatures (usually not humanoid) who are often, but not always, hostile to human beings. Also rather common are the myths of "Serpents of Wisdom" who enlightened humanity before the dawn of civilization.

Some individuals, doubting claims of reptilian humanoid sightings or contacts, suggest that the mythological preeminence of reptilian forms could stem from a genetic memory of instincts developed millions of years ago, when mammals were the prey of the reptiles which dominated the Earth. Dreams of reptiles are often interpreted as symbolizing "ancient drives" and "instinctive responses".

The Americas

The Toltec Mayan god Gucumatz was described as a "serpent of wisdom" who enlightened humankind. His Aztec counterpart was named Quetzalcoatl. In the Yucatan, he is called Kukulcan.

The Hopi refer to a race of reptoids called the Sheti, or "Snake-Brothers", who live underground. The Cherokee and other Native American peoples also refer to reptoid races.

In pre-Columbian mythology from Colombia, Bachue (the primordial woman) transformed into a big snake. She is also sometimes called the "Celestial Snake" (Serpiente Celestial).

Many users of the drug Dimethyltryptamine (the active ingredient in many South American shamanic potions such as ayahuasca) have seen reptilian humanoids or reptilian disincarnate entities and aliens while hallucinating (Strassman 2000).

Europe

Cecrops I, the legendary first King of Athens was said to have been half man, half snake. The ancient Titans and Gigantes were sometimes depicted as winged man-like beings with serpents instead of legs, for example on a fresco on a temple in Pergamum. In these images from Pergamum, some of which depict the gigantomachy, one sees the giant Klyteios with huge serpents in place of legs.

Boreas (Aquilon to the Romans) was the Greek god of the cold north wind, described by Pausanias as a winged man with serpents for legs.

The European dragon dates back to ancient depictions on various archaeological artifacts. An early instance in literature was the dragon that guarded the Golden Fleece in the Voyage of the Argonauts. In the Middle Ages, tales of dragons seem to have become even more common. The dragon in Europe, as a rule, was not conceived as having a humanoid form, and would not qualify as an instance of a reptilian humanoid unless explicitly described as humanoid.

India

In Indian scriptures and legends the Naga are reptilian beings said to live underground and interact with human beings on the surface. Some are alleged to turn human. In some versions, these beings were said to have once lived on a continent in the Indian Ocean that sank beneath the waves. Indian texts also refer to a reptilian race called the "Sarpa. The Syrictae of India were a tribe of men with snake-like nostrils in place of noses and bandy serpentine legs.

East Asia

The Chinese, Korean and Japanese speak throughout their history of Lóng (Yong in Korean, Ryu in Japanese) or dragons, conceived of in both physical and non-physical forms, but rarely depicted in humanoid form, though they may assume a non-reptilian human form.

The Japanese have tales of Kappa, a basically reptilian humanoid.

In China, Korea and Japan, underwater realms where the Dragon Kings and their descendants live are referred to, as well as the lineage of humans from a race of dragons. This lineage was often claimed by Asian Emperors, who were believed to be able to change from human to dragon form at will, much like the modern concept of shapeshifting reptilians. However, the dragon is seen as good rather than evil in Eastern tradition.

Middle East

In the Middle East, reptilian beings ranging from certain Jinn to dragons and serpent-men have been spoken of since ancient times. In one of the apocryphal books purporting to be the lost Book of Jasher, a serpent race is described.

In the Book of Genesis, God punishes the serpent for deceiving Eve into eating the fruit of the Tree of Knowledge of Good and Evil by decreeing, "Upon thy belly thou shalt go, and dust shalt thou eat all the days of your life" (Genesis 3:14 KJV). Traditionally, many have felt this implied that the serpent (a snake or reptile) had legs before then. Thus It is therefore often portrayed in Western art as a humanoid (woman) with a snake's tail, and sometimes lizard-like feet, as in a detail from Bosch's Last Judgement.

In the Middle Ages down to modern times, the Devil was often conceived as a humanoid with reptilian characteristics, as were demons in general. But the New Testament reference of Revelation 12:9 which identifies the serpent of Genesis as Satan himself (the "dragon, devil, Satan, ancient serpent," etc.) gives insight from another angle. The serpent in the Garden of Eden was Satan himself, a beautiful supernatural being (either called a "serpent" symbolically, or because he manifested himself commonly in a dragon/serpent-like form). Hence the reference to "crawling" and "eating dust" is purely symbolic of his ultimate defeat and humiliation.

Africa

In Africa, some shamans claim to bear extensive esoteric knowledge of a race of reptilians called the Chitauri, whom they say control the Earth. They also claim to have accounts of a reptilian race who created them and used them to work their gold mines. Also, the ancient Egyptian god Sobek was portrayed as a man with the head of a crocodile.

Modern Claims

Even in modern times, some claim to have encountered reptilian humanoids. In many of these cases, a UFO is part of the encounter; alien abduction narratives sometimes allege contact with reptilian creatures.

http://www.crystalinks.com/reptilians.html



You all make up you're own minds.... what is believable & what is not logical? ...
but all story's are connected in one or the other way over thousandths of years!
The Imagination is endless & the real truth has been buried in it all!
Impossible for any normal Human on earth now to find the real truth having so many self serving egoistic liars on earth ..... IMO
Like 1 + 1 = 2

The Theories of David Icke

According to David Icke reptilian humanoids are the force behind a worldwide conspiracy directed at manipulation and control of humanity. He contends that most of our world's leaders, from George W. Bush to members of the British royal family, are in fact 7-foot tall, blood-drinking reptilians from the star system Alpha Draconia.

According to an interview with David Icke, Christine Fitzgerald, a confidante of Diana, Princess of Wales, claims that Diana told her that the Royal Family were reptilian aliens, and that they could shapeshift. David Icke and others have claimed that U.S. President George W. Bush and his family are part of this same bloodline (Icke, 2004).

Icke claims, based on his exploration of genealogical connections to European royalty, that many presidents of the United States have been and are reptilian humanoids. In his view, United States foreign policy after September 11 is the product of a reptilian conspiracy to enslave humanity, with George W. Bush as a servant of the lizards.

He also theorizes that the reptilians came here from the constellation Draco. One type of reptilian entity that people see during alleged encounters resembles reptoids like those that are addressed in the studies of John Rhodes and the Reptoids Research Center. Like most conspiracy theories, proving Icke's hypotheses is impossible, but he continues to sell books and give speaking engagements based on concepts ranging from the New Age to his political opinions.

Others who share the negative viewpoint of reptilian humanoids include Cathy O'Brien, a woman who claims to be a victim of CIA MKULTRA mind-control. O'Brien says in her book "The Trance-formation of America" (with Mark Phillips) that she witnessed George Bush Sr. physically shapeshift into a reptilian alien being. She rationalized this as potentially being a holographic illusion as part of her mind control programming. Arizona Wilder reported similar sightings of prominent politicians shape-shifting into reptilian beings during Illuminati blood rituals. While her claims sound frightening, no supporting evidence or additional eyewitnesses exist.

Patrick Bellringer and other supporters of NESARA also claim that George Bush is a reptilian. In this scenario, the announcement and implementation of NESARA (a law passed in secret) will ultimately end reptilian control over the planet Earth.

Reptilian humanoid aliens figured prominently in the 2003 murder trial of David Icke fan Linda Henning who was eventually convicted of murdering her boyfriend's ex-wife, Girly Chew Hossencofft. The trial was covered by CourtTV, providing national exposure to the conspiracy theories involving such creatures. Henning allegedly believed or was told by co-conspirator Diazien Hossencofft that Girly's killing would serve as good practice for the upcoming showdown with the reptilians. Familiar themes of a Bush family reptilian connection surfaced in evidence seized in connection with the trial. Both Henning and Hossencofft are serving life sentences.

http://www.crystalinks.com/reptilians.html

Metaphysical Myths Based on Metaphors

The Reptilians are the creation of the Carians, (Bird Headed Beings) their parent race. They evolved on a planet in the Alpha Draconi star system of the Orion Constellation. The royal line of Reptilians are the Draconians, or Winged Dragons from the House of El. Reptiles have two major sub races, Winged Serpents (Snakes) and Lizards (Lizzies.) Reptilians have a highly sophisticated knowledge of universal law and are allegedly responsible for the Mystery School Teachings on Earth. The Reptilians allegedly were given a creational agenda by the Carians. They were to move through the universe and destroy any existing civilization they found along the way, recreating new DNA codes and entities following those codes. It was part of a Master Plan, a Universal Game, Polarity Integration, reality in conflict, an experiment in emotions, resulting in soul evolution at the end of the cycles of its existence.
http://www.crystalinks.com/reptilians.html


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There does exist . . .

The Guardians of the Seed
The Teachers and Healers
The Protectors
The Record Keepers
The Watchers
The Conspirators
http://www.crystalinks.com/mysteryschools.html





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Kabbalah (http://www.crystalinks.com/kabala.html) Sumerian Tree of Life
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Sumerian Gods
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hese Gods were called the Nephilim Nefilim, Elohim, the Anunnaki
"Those who from Heaven to Earth came."

In Sumerian Mythology the Anunnaki were a pantheon of good and evil gods and goddesses who came to Earth to create the human race. According to the some resources, these gods came from Nibiru - 'Planet of the Crossing.' The Assyrians and Babylonians called it 'Marduk', after their chief god. Sumerians said one year on planet Nibiru, a sar, was equivalent in time to 3,600 Earth years. Anunnaki lifespans were 120 sars which is 120 x 3,600 or 432,000 years. According to the King List - 120 sars had passed from the time the Anunnaki arrived on Earth to the time of the Great Flood.


Creating Bloodlines

According to ancient astronaut (alien) theory, the Anunnaki came to Earth and seeded the human race. This research was lead by Zecharai Sitchin and Erich on Däniken among others, myself included. Physical evidence of ancient astronauts is found through the planet, leading one to believe different races visited here at different periods in Earth's history, or the same aliens return and set up various programs in which they could remain and experience. These would include the Egyptians, Hindu, Chinese, Greek, perhaps Atlanteans and Lemurians, Mesoamerican cultures, among endless others. Will they return in space ships one day? Many believe this is so., when the program of this program ends.

http://www.crystalinks.com/sumergods.html


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The Ouroboros connects the Above and Below

Ouroboros is an ancient alchemy symbol depicting a snake or dragon [DNA] swallowing its own tail, constantly creating itself and forming a circle. It is the Wheel of Time - The Alchemy Wheel - 12 Around 1 to manifest grid programs that give the illusion of linear time allowing souls to experience emotions.

Ouroboros is associated with Alchemy, Gnosticism and Hermeticism. It represents the cyclical nature of things, eternal return, and other things perceived as cycles that begin anew as soon as they end.

In some representations the serpent is shown as half light and half dark, echoing symbols such as the Yin Yang, which illustrates the dual nature of all things, but more importantly, that these opposites are not in conflict.

Origins of the Ouroboros

The serpent or dragon eating its own tail has survived from antiquity and can be traced back to Ancient Egypt, circa 1600 B.C.E.

From there it passed to Phoenicia and then to the Greek philosophers, who gave it the name Ouroboros ("the tail-devourer").

Norse Mythology - the serpent Jormungand, one of the 3 children of Loki - the Trickster who grew so large that it could encircle the world and grasp its tail in its teeth.

Hindu Mythology - the dragon circling the tortoise which supports the four elephants that carry the world.

The serpent or dragon also appears in Aztec, Chinese, and Native American mythology.

Christians adopted the Ouroboros as a symbol of the limited confines of this world (that there is an "outside" being implied by the demarcation of an inside), and the self-consuming transitory nature of a mere this-worldly existence following in the footsteps of the Preacher in Ecclesiastes.

It could very well be used to symbolize the closed-system model of the universe of some physicists even today.

Symbology Behind the Ouroboros

The ouroboros has several meanings interwoven into it. Foremost is the symbolism of the serpent biting, devouring, eating its own tail. This symbolizes the cyclic Nature of the Universe: creation out of destruction, Life out of Death. The ouroboros eats its own tail to sustain its life, in an eternal cycle of renewal. In the above drawing, from a book by an early Alchemist, Cleopatra, the black half symbolizes the Night, Earth, and the destructive force of nature, yin. the light half represents Day, Heaven, the generative, creative force, yang.

Alchemy

Alchemically, the ouroboros is also used as a purifying glyph. Ouroboros was and is the name for the Great World Serpent, encircling the Earth.

The word Ouroboros is really a term that describes a similar symbol which has been cross-pollinated from many different cultures. Its symbolic connotation from this owes to the returning cyclical nature of the seasons; the oscillations of the night sky; self-fecundation; disintegration and re-integration; truth and cognition complete; the Androgyny; the primeval waters; the potential before the spark of creation; the undifferentiated; the Totality; primordial unity; self-sufficiency, and the idea of the beginning and the end as being a continuous unending principle.

Ouroboros represents the conflict of life as well in that life comes out of life and death. 'My end is my beginning.' In a sense life feeds off itself, thus there are good and bad connotations which can be drawn. It is a single image with the entire actions of a life cycle - it begets, weds, impregnates, and slays itself, but in a cyclical sense, rather than linear.

Thus, it fashions our lives to a totality more towards what it may really be - a series of movements which repeat. "As Above, So Below" - we are born from nature, and we mirror it, because it is what man wholly is a part of. It is this symbolic rendition of the eternal principles that are presented in the Emerald Tablets of Thoth.

http://www.crystalinks.com/ouroboros.html

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Emblem of the Theosophical Society (https://secure.wikimedia.org/wikipedia/en/wiki/Theosophical_Society)

The Theosophical Society is an organization formed in 1875 to advance the spiritual principles and search for Truth known as Theosophy. The original organization, after splits and realignments has (as of 2011) several successors. Theosophy is an active philosophical school today, and through a process of schism has also given rise to other mystical, philosophical and religious beliefs and organizations.[1]

Formation
Notes of meeting proposing the formation of the Theosophical Society, New York City, 8 September 1875

The Theosophical Society was officially formed in New York City, United States, in November 1875 by Helena Blavatsky, Henry Steel Olcott, William Quan Judge and others. Its initial objective was the "study and elucidation of Occultism, the Cabala etc."[2] After a few years Olcott and Blavatsky moved to India and established the International Headquarters at Adyar, in Madras (Chennai). They were also interested in studying Eastern religions, and these were included in the Society's agenda.[3] After several iterations the Society's objectives evolved to be:
To form a nucleus of the universal brotherhood of humanity without distinction of race, creed, sex, caste, or colour.
To encourage the study of comparative religion, philosophy, and science.
To investigate the unexplained laws of nature and the powers latent in man.

The Society was organized as a non-sectarian entity. The following was stated in the Constitution and Rules of the Theosophical Society, "Article I: Constitution":

4. The Theosophical Society is absolutely unsectarian, and no assent to any formula of belief, faith or creed shall be required as a qualification of membership; but every applicant and member must lie in sympathy with the effort to create the nucleus of an Universal Brotherhood of Humanity.[4]

The Society reformulated this view in a resolution passed by the General Council of the Theosophical Society on December 23, 1924
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My Personal notes:
Woe, Woe, Woe Perfect Again!.... To many times to just be coincidental.
Are my actions connected, related or synchronized with Symbolic number meanings?
My Posting No. 3668 = 23 what does it say Symbolically?
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu23.php
Properties of the number 23

Symbolism
Represent "the principle of organization 3, acting on the differentiation of the world in spirit and matter 20, to allow precisely the incarnation of the spirit in the matter, 2 + 3 = 5", according to R. Allendy.
http://www.ridingthebeast.com/numbers/nu23.php

[whatsinaname]

Its all here buddy


http://www.thetruthseeker.co.uk/article.asp?ID=54

Link not working.

[bemore]

What is "truth", other than a set of personal opinions and beliefs reinforced with differing sets of experience.

There came a point when something triggered off a change......where you initially started to question everything you led to believe was "true".....this is one big mothertrucking lesson that should stay with you permanently.......the fact that what you hold as "reality" can and mostly is, not what it seems to appear/be portrayed as......that there is more than meanst the eyes to a lot of things you thought you knew everything about.

Look at us now, all sitting here at our computers..........we could spend an hour reading/researching a subject on the internet........and after that hour your view of that subject can be completly different........and all you have done is look at some words and pictures on a screen........lol.

You cant "see" the truth, however, we all live the truth.

[arch]

Are you maybe pointing to this reptilian part?Yes the reptilian brain and the corresponding lower functions in our body. Humans are kind of built around it, looking into an illusory reality. :p Our ego keeps building more layers to escape being found. However, these layers are becoming detrimental when we keep doing it, so we'll have to deal with things.

[deca]

Hi everyone,

Like many on these boards we are looking for answers and truth right? And everyone can admit that sometimes it gets pretty hard as to know what to believe and what to trust which is fine because that's what human beings do. We all will find our own path to the truth in different ways that's what i believe anyway, and when looking into the whole NWO, Illuminati ect we come across lots and lots of disinfo and disinfo agents as well. Everyone and everything seems to be contradicting each other, for example jordan maxwell is seen as the most respected and in depth researcher there is, but william cooper stated otherwise in the past, the same goes for zechariah sitchin.

When coming across any form of warning for the disinfo and the disinfo agents david icke always pops up along with alex jones, i don't know what to think or believe now a days it's all very confusing, i know in my heart that was is going on in the world is very very wrong but sometimes get confused with all the disinfo what does everyone else think about this and does it bother you at all?

P.S sorry if i've offended anyone with this thread, i know david icke has many supporters i'm one of them, i just need to question things sometimes that's all :)

again I would be sceptical of people attacking people like alex jones,david icke
and other alternative media talkers ...again they are only really messengers and only report what they believe is truth and important (why do people spend so much time trying to discredit them what is there motive for doing so surly there more things to be concerned about??)...again check out the information that they expose and talk about why are people discrediting them not what they say? ....even if they were shills they still would have to talk some truth then put some spin on it to neutralise the truth they have said ...so again check out what they say ...go to the source and reference material and do your own research ...again you have to really kick start your critical thinking
as for AJ I was thinking even if 50% of what hes says is fear mongering rants and disinformation then try and watch some news channel with there 3 stories a day repeated every 15 mins and you find AJ for more relevant and informative and really has a good guest speakers...again its about getting a range of information from different sources and checking out the information

as for David icke I like lot of what hes says and hes a good speaker but I don`t buy every thing of what talks about but still interesting and thought provoking...again he seems to be good and uncovering the system and the elites but then he takes a 180 and fly of in a tangent ...but again i think that's due to having profound experiences and finding answers that sort explains them

also I find it rather insulting to my intelligence and ability to discern information why people try to discredit a particular person and try to tar them and put me off listening to them...again you can still learn an awful lot even from disinformation because you can start to see behind the spin and what they are trying to cover up and how they try to rehash the information ...again I learnt so much from the most unlikeness places and also get worried that a lot of people generalise with she/he is main street scientist what do they know , that's in the daily mail ...etc.

again i believe there is diffidently a agenda to try and suck people interest in finding things out and inquisitive to drive them into extreme, fringe and pseudo beliefs and also to dissociated them from everyday goings on....so again stay balanced and take a wide variety of sources and information , research and look for evidence ..again you will soon see patterns and come to your own mind who is really trying to mislead and influence you.

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(hmmm dr persinger just said our short term memory is about 20 mins and its held electrically until the synapses grow)