your numbers have been logged

[williamgreen]

ive been out in the woods for 4 days and my mate has just told me that there is a new law just come in that basicly means all the numbers you have phoned for the last 2 years have been logged and that information is now being made available to 650 companys/authoritys

1. is this true ?
2. omg am i the only one who kind finds that creepy ?

[lydia78]

ive been out in the woods for 4 days and my mate has just told me that there is a new law just come in that basicly means all the numbers you have phoned for the last 2 years have been logged and that information is now being made available to 650 companys/authoritys

1. is this true ?
2. omg am i the only one who kind finds that creepy ?

yes it's true
was telling this to a few people at uni,
only to be met with apathy

But thats not all
by 2009 the Government plans to extend
the rules to cover internet use the websites
we have visited, the people we have emailed
and phone calls made over the net.
read more here:

http://www.dailymail.co.uk/pages/live/articles/news/news.html?in_article_id=484752&in_page_id=1770&ct=5

:mad:

[soglad]

Get Firefox web browser with the "No Script" addon and they can't record your details mate! :D

[Mo0n5tar]

Kamal Ahmed, political editor
Sunday December 3, 2000
The Observer


Britain's intelligence services are seeking powers to seize all records of telephone calls, emails and internet connections made by every person living in this country.

A document circulated to Home Office officials and obtained by The Observer reveals that MI5, MI6 and the police are demanding new legislation to log every phone call made in this country and store the information for seven years at a vast government-run 'data warehouse', a super computer that will hold the information.

The secret moves, which will cost millions of pounds, were last night condemned by politicians and campaigners as a sinister expansion of 'Big Brother' state powers and a fundamental attack on the public's right to privacy.

Last night, the Home Office admitted that it was giving the plans serious consideration.

Lord Cope, the Conservative peer and a leading expert on privacy issues, said: 'We are sympathetic to the need for greater powers to fight modern types of crime. {Notice how they no longer even bother to say the legislation trigger word TERRORISM} But vast banks of information on every member of the public can quickly slip into the world of Big Brother. I will be asking serious questions about this.' Maurice Frankel, a leading campaigner on personal data issues, called the powers 'sweeping' and a cause for worry.

The document, which is classified 'restricted', says new laws are needed to allow the intelligence services, Customs and Excise and the police access to telephone and computer records of every member of the public.

It suggests that the Home Office is sympathetic to the new powers, which would be used to tackle the growing problems of cybercrime, the use of computers by paedophiles to run child pornography rings, as well as terrorism and international drug trafficking.

{ I wonder, will they lift the veil of secrecy surrounding the secret societies involvement in these pornography rings, will MI5/MI6 communication records be made available to the public so we can see who the real drug traffickers are?}

Every telephone call made and received by a member of the public, all emails sent and received and every web page looked at would be recorded.

Calls made on mobile phones can already be pinpointed geographically, as can those made from land lines. The police would be able to use 'trawling' computer techniques to look through millions of telephone and email records. Campaigners say innocent people could have such highly personal information accessed.

The document admits the moves are controversial and could clash with the Human Rights Act, which gives people a right to privacy, European Union law and the Data Protection Act, which protects the public against official intrusion into private lives.

The office of the Data Protection Commissioner, Elizabeth France, has already expressed 'grave concerns' .

'A clear legislative framework needs to be agreed as a matter of urgency,' says the document, which is dated 10 August and is thought to have been sent to Home Office Minister Charles Clarke.

'Why should data be retained? In the interests of justice, to preserve and protect data for use as evidence to establish proof of innocence or guilt. For intelligence and evidence gathering purposes, to maintain the effectiveness of UK law enforcement, intelligence and security agencies to protect society.'

The document is written byRoger Gaspar, the deputy director-general of the National Criminal Intelligence Service, the Government agency that oversees criminal intelligence in the United Kingdom. Gaspar, as head of intelligence for NCIS, is one of the most powerful and influential men in the field.

The report says it is written 'on behalf of Acpo [the Association of Chief Police Officers], HM Customs and Excise, security service, secret intelligence service and GCHQ [the Government's secret listening centre based at Cheltenham]'.

Gaspar argues telephone companies should be ordered to retain all records of phone calls and internet access.

At the moment many telephone and internet service providers keep data for as little as 24 hours.

'In the interests of verifying the accuracy of data specifically provided for either intelligence or evidential purposes, CSPs [communication service providers such as telephone or internet companies] should be under an obligation to retain the original data supplied for a period of seven years or for as long as the prosecuting authority directs,' the document says.

'Informal discussions have taken place with the office of the data protection commissioner. Whilst they acknowledge that such communications data may be of value to the work of the agencies and the interests of justice they have grave reservations about longer term data retention.' The document says the new data warehouse would be run along similar lines to the National DNA Database for profiles of known criminals.

It would cost about £3 million to set up and £9m a year to run.

The report demands that the Government 'should be prepared to defend our position'.

A spokesman for NCIS refused to be drawn on the report. 'I am not going to comment on a classified document that is in unauthorised hands,' he said.

Meanwhile a Home Office spokesman said it had received the proposals and was considering them.

Guardian.co.uk (http://observer.guardian.co.uk/uk_news/story/0,6903,406191,00.html)
Roger Gasper
http://news.bbc.co.uk/furniture/in_depth/uk/2001/life_of_crime/cybercrime/gaspar_100.jpg
For someone who wants US, the people to be so open, he doesn't have much biographical info on the web...

"It is a different world now… We have to move ourselves into this new world. It is a great challenge for us."

Roger Gaspar, NCIS

What Mr Gaspar is saying here mirrors pretty much the sentiment of David Cameron's Tory conference speech today 3rd October 2007, much talk of the new world and a new order to things...
David Cameron
http://www.davidosler.com/cameron,%20david.jpg

""We face a new world in so many different ways and the old politics is failing and change is required. New world - old politics failing - change required. That is what we've got to be about today."

[i_am]

Get Firefox web browser with the "No Script" addon and they can't record your details mate! :D

Bet they can :p

It doesn't matter what web browser you are using . You still have to go through an ISP.

[synergy777]

anything digital, eg binary has to be put through computers/satelites, so its been done since the first digital telephone call. its nothing new.

[i_am]

anything digital, eg binary has to be put through computers/satelites, so its been done since the first digital telephone call. its nothing new.


exactly ;)

They also have the technology to zero in on your conversation via satelite if so desired.

[synergy777]

they know everything you do, download, its far more hi tech than enemy of the state.

from mp3s, porn, pirated software, websites, everything. from your mobile phoine calls, dirty texts, everything is recorded.

[peachped]

But those barnyard sex sites I visit are only for research purposes only!

[whitenight639]

But those barnyard sex sites I visit are only for research purposes only!

lmao :D

[lilly555]

I agree with i am and synergy on this.

[soglad]

Indeed. Hardly anyways to remain incognito on the web these days.

[exmicrochipmafia]

But those barnyard sex sites I visit are only for research purposes only!

LMFAO!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!:rolleyes:

[freedomnonfighter]

http://img2.kuaiche.com/movie/h000/h22/img200703241257560369.jpg

[gorgeousbutterfly]

http://img2.kuaiche.com/movie/h000/h22/img200703241257560369.jpg

:D Good one!

[lizzy]

Yes, they need to fear and self censor oursleves.