Who is MIND-CONTROLLED?

[mountain]

OK. It is time to do this. I have quite of few people in mind, and I am sure you do, too.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jBMMc3QAWCs

Britney Spears. think her name might be some symbolism, like Brittain.

Please feel free to elaborate on symbolism and any details you want to share.

[mountain]

Britney shaves her locks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsyWlcQAy-Q&mode=related&search=

[strider]

I really don't think it's fair to name and shame mind controlled victims..

I'm not into the word victim, but there are people who are genuine victims, and mind controlled people are one..

[mountain]

I really don't think it's fair to name and shame mind controlled victims..

I'm not into the word victim, but there are people who are genuine victims, and mind controlled people are one..

I do not feel it is shaming them. It could possibly help them realize that they could be programmed. It is only an observation, not definite.

Do we not do the same by creating threads about "Who is possibly a satanist or reptilian?"

[strider]

I do not feel it is shaming them. It could possibly help them realize that they could be programmed. It is only an observation, not definite.

Do we not do the same by creating threads about "Who is possibly a satanist or reptilian?"

I don't think them reading it on some website would suddenly 'heal' them.. I'm sorry, but I think the thread is a little tacky. My opinion of course.

I think there is a huge difference from exposing the perpetrators of the crimes as opposed to the victims, don't you think?

[mountain]

I don't think them reading it on some website would suddenly 'heal' them.. I'm sorry, but I think the thread is a little tacky. My opinion of course.

I think there is a huge difference from exposing the perpetrators of the crimes as opposed to the victims, don't you think?

No because perpertrators are victims, too.

[neutron flux]

I do not feel it is shaming them. It could possibly help them realize that they could be programmed.

Wouldn't it be a better idea to be looking at your own programming from external stimuli that we pick up from birth, and work on oneself to eradicate these little programs, than point the finger at people who you think is part of some mind control operation?

Just an idea.

[mountain]

Wouldn't it be a better idea to be looking at your own programming from external stimuli that we pick up from birth, and work on oneself to eradicate these little programs, than point the finger at people who you think is part of some mind control operation?

Just an idea.

Been there, done that. THANX

[strider]

No because perpertrators are victims, too.

Go ahead, do your naming and shaming.. I'll stay well out of it..

[synergy777]

i think britney spears is an anagram of presbyterian, due to her being all good christian/virgin at the beginning of her career/marketing. never really liked her anyway, although do feel sorry for her now. all i ask, funny how the parents are with them when they are making money, rather conspicous by their absence now aren't they.

look at the potentially murdering bitch courtney, she is fucked. i think she had a hand in the legendary curt cobains death, bitch. what goes around comes around, her soul looks troubled.

most successful celebs are mk/controlled.

[mountain]

i think britney spears is an anagram of presbyterian, due to her being all good christian/virgin at the beginning of her career/marketing. never really liked her anyway, although do feel sorry for her now. all i ask, funny how the parents are with them when they are making money, rather conspicous by their absence now aren't they.

look at the potentially murdering bitch courtney, she is fucked. i think she had a hand in the legendary curt cobains death, bitch. what goes around comes around, her soul looks troubled.

most successful celebs are mk/controlled.

That is quite interesting indeed, synergy777. You have a great analytical mind according to your many posts. When watching Rosemary's Baby, the usage of anagrams in satanism grabbed my attention. It's true, though. seems the parents are distant and unfeeling, especially the mothers. Very unlike a mother to behave this way, unless mind-controlled themselves.

[mountain]

I posted the videos of Britney so that others can observe her behavior and how it appears that she is geniunely speaking from the heart, trying to piece in the puzzle of her life. My intention is not to shame her, far from it. I do not believe she was stoned, but rather laid back (her husband was filming the video)
I personally love Britney and I have immense faith in her recovery. I believe that she will be among those that will expose the TRUTH, and that she WILL prevail. It is up to us not to fall for the media's degration of her, and open our eyes to the signs that she is giving us! I LOVE YOU BRITNEY!!

[synergy777]

just look at her eyes/her behaviour she is alone, and the programming is breaking down. she triys anything to get attention, the clothes/getting out of the car, the drugs, her kids, its just one fuck up after another, and no one around her is genuine, no one is helping her. she needs support, empathy and motivation.

this world is a dog eat dog, sink or swim etc.

[soglad]

People who do the most ridiculous and hurtful things without even realizing it, would be brainwashed......eather willingly or through society.

[synergy777]

shes addicted to fame/hype, without it these people are lost. me, i'd rather be bill gates money than be hollywood/celeb.

[strider]

If you really must know, I was given a fair list of people who were all said to be part of mind control programs in all their guises, by someone who I trust a lot, someone I know that has a lot of connections within British intelligence.

I was asked not to show it to a soul, I never did and it is safely tucked away in someone's loft in the U.K.

She told me that most of them can be traced back to one sole controller. She said his name but I forgot as he was no one famous, and it was 7 years ago..

All I can say, is that it was a who's who of British media.

They're largely put amongst symbolism on public display.

Here is a blatant example and a clue. What is the society that George Orwell speaks about in 1984. There is a celebrity version of the name. Watch it next time.

And also, you will find a huge amount of names encrypted within their names, as well as numbers..

[Mo0n5tar]

Anyone who votes for a Govern-ment is mind controlled, anyone who underwent state education is mind controlled and most people who speak english in the modern world are mind controlled...

peace

[synergy777]

strider, c'mon spill the beans, after all you simply classify as conjecture, lol

are the famous actors/actresses we have controlled. i know music celebs are controlled, what about actors, c'mon bro.

micky wassup bro, long time, no hear, hope everything good.

[mountain]

Anyone who votes for a Govern-ment is mind controlled, anyone who underwent state education is mind controlled and most people who speak english in the modern world are mind controlled...

peace


Hey, I agree with you! That is why I dropped out of school in 8th grade and re-educated myself! Best thing I ever did!

[mountain]

Is it me? But does it seem like these strange behaviors started when Gerald Ford passed away....

[strider]

strider, c'mon spill the beans, after all you simply classify as conjecture, lol

are the famous actors/actresses we have controlled. i know music celebs are controlled, what about actors, c'mon bro.

micky wassup bro, long time, no hear, hope everything good.

Dude there is a fucking good reason why we shouldn't bandie their names around and accuse them of being mind controlled etc

Plus that list could've been fake, and plus there was a lot of names I didn't really know on there not being a huge tele person and all that. But I did used to read the papers a lot.

O.k. I'll be a bit more blatant in what I'm saying about them being surrounded in symbolism in public display.

There was at least 5 names I can remember from the list that took part in celebrity big brother 2 years ago..

One of them had someone die in his swimming pool, another has had plastic surgery beyond recognition.

Now, remember, it was just a list I was given, not what I know for fact..

[synergy777]

what chicks are mind controlled, i read that helen mirren had a masonic tatoo on her hand, and she is east european, helen mirren like many other actors/actresses is a stage name.

[strider]

what chicks are mind controlled, i read that helen mirren had a masonic tatoo on her hand, and she is east european, helen mirren like many other actors/actresses is a stage name.

You're definitely along the right lines with the name thing. You will find that quite a lot of them have biblical or major historical names or that they are an anagram of them..

[synak]

I've always thought of this video as an unofficial list of actors and musicians who are controlled:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e0EQlQXoEo

You've probably all seen it by now but watch it again and watch for all the symbolism and familiar faces plus lyrics.

[mountain]

I've always thought of this video as an unofficial list of actors and musicians who are controlled:

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=1e0EQlQXoEo

You've probably all seen it by now but watch it again and watch for all the symbolism and familiar faces plus lyrics.


WOW! I have just looked at this. Haven't seen it before. Definitely great video!

[synak]

Yup and you'll be surprised by what you'll find if you research some of the individuals in the video. Kanye and Jay Z for instance...and did you see the Rolling Stones member flashing the Skull & Bones ring along with the Jay Z's Skull & Bones shirt? Towards the beginning Kanye seems to be worshiping an object substituting for a sun symbol. Plenty more stuff too...and thats just in this one video lol.

[mountain]

Princess Grace Kelly. She was killed in a car accident.
http://shots.oxo.li/hot/OXO-World/Grace_Kelly.jpg

Here is an exceprt from this link:
http://www.thewatcherfiles.com/bloodlines/onassis.htm


Aristotle Onassis controlled and owned the little country of Monoco. Prince Rainier the nominal ruler of Monoco needed a wife, and Aristotle thought of getting Marilyn Monroe for him. Marilyn Monroe was a Presidential Model Monarch Sexual Slave of the Illuminati who was used to sexually service JFK and others, so the fact that Aristotle thought he could get her shows his power. Several people close to Grace have mentioned that the wedding was an arranged wedding by others, and in fact a wedding Grace soon disliked, and felt trapped in. When Aristotle asked Marilyn what she thought of marrying the Prince she said, “Give me two days alone with him and of course he’ll want to marry me.” However, somehow Onassis was persuaded to drop Marilyn Monroe because of her image. Instead, Grace Kelly was selected to be the wife of Prince Rainier which pleased Aristotle Onassis greatly. When Prince Ranier met Grace Kelly at the Waldorf-Astoria for the first time it was at a party. They were soon found to be kissing intimately at the party and photographed by reporters. (That such intimacy happened so quickly makes me wonder if Grace wasn’t under some type of control.) Onassis gave Grace a bracelet of diamonds and rubies as a wedding gift. Ari’s mistress Maria Callas and Grace became friends. The Prince and his wife Grace Kelly Rainier often took cruises with Onassis on his yacht Christina. Several researchers have accumulated evidence that Grace Kelly found out too many secrets about the P2 Freemasons, the Vatican and other Illuminati intriques and that that is why she was murdered.

[mountain]

(Continuation of previous post)

Ralph Epperson (author of the Unseen Hand & The New World Order) gives lectures on the NWO and has a segment in his slide show which exposes Grace’s murder by the occult world. Grace Kelly, the Princess of Monoco’s father was Jack. Her grandfather was John Henry Kelly and her grandmother Mary Costello. Grace’s dad’s family consisted of 10 siblings, one which died in infancy and Grace who died at age 22 on the verge of an acting career. Mary was very domineering and her husband John Henry Kelly would get away from her and have many extramarital affairs. The children of Niary Costello Kelly, in order to cope with her dominating ways, liked fantasy. Her son George became a homosexual playwright. Her daughter tried to go into acting before she died at age 22. Her son Walter went into Vaudeville. Her son Jack (Grace Kelly’s dad) won the Olympics singles gold medal in rowing, and his cousin Paul Costello won the doubles gold metal in 1920. Jack kelly married Margaret who had blood from German nobility in 1924. Jack soon became a very wealthy man in the Philadelphia area. He had four children, one of which was Grace Kelly. Grace Kelly’s brother Kell was torced by her father to follow in the wake of her father’s Olympic fame and to become a great sculler (rower). He won the Olympic bronze in the '56 Olympics, which pleased his father. After winning the bronze, Kell’s love affair with a transvestite was discovered, and he lost his chance for winning the election to mayor of Philadelphia. Grace as a child was in her own world and enraptured with fantasy. Because Grace was sickly, her parents would have her drink the blood from roasts. Some of the games Grace played indicate she may have been a multiple personality. However, I don’t know if she was or not. Grace’s birthday cake one year had the wrong number of candles on it. These are the type of tricks parents who are raising disassociative children are taught to do, to enhance the confusion which enhances the mind-control. Grace went to grade school at Ravenhill (a convent) where she was taught by nuns. By the time was 15 she was a stunning beauty. She had a pristine look, which over time hid her very promiscous life. When she went to Hollywood she ended up getting “psychiatric treatment” to help her cope with Hollywood. Grace had many affairs including one with Bing Crosby. Grace Kelly worked for MGM. Alfred Hitchcock was the one who is credited w/ seeing a superstar in Grace. Alfred Hitchcock came from a british generational occult family, and was a dark genius who produced many exceptional films. Grace Kelly acted for three of Alfred Hitchcock’s movies. Dial “M” for Murder was the first. Later, Hitchcock visited Grace and Prince Ranier at their Paris home, and Grace made a rare public appearance in Apr. ’74 with Hitchcock in New York. Hitchcock’s life has been described by someone who knew him as “an enigma within an enigma.” Hitchcock was very secretive about his own life and his parents. We do know that he was instructed by the Jesuits at St. Ignatius College which he left in 1913. He had an extreme fascination for sadiomasicism, which can be seen in his movies such as Frenzy.

[supertzar]

Nothing wrong with talking about who seems to be mind-controlled. It could help us to better understand what exactly is happening and how it is done.

Some others I think probably are MK:
Xtina (I just think so.)
Anna Nicole (definite MPD/DID - see "Anna Nicole Whacked out of Her Mind on Drugs" video for proof.)
Christina Ricci (cutting of wrists.)

[synergy777]

what about english peeps, eg keira christina knightley, sienna miller, kate moss, lilly allen, amy winehouse before she went all skinny/tattoo/drugs, she was talking about the queen being a reppie, lol.

[synergy777]

presbyterians, not presbyterian. got it off talksport radio/uk.

http://www.wordsmith.org/

http://wordsmith.org/anagram/index.html

http://wordsmith.org/anagram/anagram.cgi?anagram=britney+spears&t=1000

britney spears = Presbyterians

[neutron flux]

Why would they want to mind control celebs? What's the purpose? Sex? You don't need sophisticated techniques to get people into bed, simple language patterning with a few suggestions would do the job there NLP style - or even the old fashioned carrot dangling in the form of career advancement etc.

I can't think they are being programmed for suicide bombings or assassinations, so what's the deal? :confused:


If you think about it, just about everything is mind control.

[mountain]

To be placed into media spotlight and used to brainwash the masses via lyrics, image and so forth.

[synergy777]

for control, so they do what they are told to do, make what music, push their agenda. most artists don't write their own music/lyrics, they just sing/mime them. when they have served their purpose, look how quickly management/record companies drop people. with the same managment that got them famous, how come overnight the artists fall off, its the same company, marketing teams etc.

[neutron flux]

To be placed into media spotlight and used to brainwash the masses via lyrics, image and so forth.

for control, so they do what they are told to do, make what music, push their agenda. most artists don't write their own music/lyrics, they just sing/mime them. when they have served their purpose, look how quickly management/record companies drop people. with the same managment that got them famous, how come overnight the artists fall off, its the same company, marketing teams etc.

But you don't need "mind control" for that - look at putrid crap like the x-factor, American Idol, give them the dream of fame and the prospect of a boat load of cash and they'll sing any old crap.

[mountain]

Yea, but i figure these are more alternatives to lure people into their web. Lots of people that were poor and worked in entertainment often tell of their drug abuse, depression and how they were used.

[neutron flux]

Lots of people that were poor and worked in entertainment often tell of their drug abuse, depression and how they were used.

That doesn't mean they were mind controlled. Lots of people have been through drug abuse, depression or how the boss worked them to them half to death to get the Smith contract or whatever.

The entertainment business will have pressures that are very public and some celebs will crave attention, and it can hit them hard when their ego is bruised or they snorted or drank their fortune away.

You don't need hardcore mind control for that.

[synak]

But you don't need "mind control" for that - look at putrid crap like the x-factor, American Idol, give them the dream of fame and the prospect of a boat load of cash and they'll sing any old crap.

They must keep the mind contentiously occupied and distracted. Celebrities are presented in present-day gods/goddesses complexes for the public to idolize and obsess over without end. It focuses the attention squarely on trivial matters and presents them with an endless source and supply for subliminal mind control of the masses. The people look in one direction as they quietly slaughter the rest the others behind their back. It also guides the 'trends' they wish for the population to quietly adopt and appearances the people will model themselves after. Ultimately those unfortunate individuals used for these and other purposes become nothing more than instruments. The puppeteers that be can not afford to allow them free will because it would present a threat to the blueprint. The less room for error the more smoothly the operations will run.

[neutron flux]

They must keep the mind contentiously occupied and distracted. Celebrities are presented in present-day gods/goddesses complexes for the public to idolize and obsess over without end. It focuses the attention squarely on trivial matters and presents them with an endless source and supply for subliminal mind control of the masses. The people look in one direction as they quietly slaughter the rest the others behind their back. It also guides the 'trends' they wish for the population to quietly adopt and appearances the people will model themselves after. Ultimately those unfortunate individuals used for these and other purposes become nothing more than instruments. The puppeteers that be can not afford to allow them free will because it would present a threat to the blueprint. The less room for error the more smoothly the operations will run.


I know what you're saying that the end result amounts to bread and circus', but I'm asking why they would use hardcore mind control on a celeb, when most are so hungry for fame and fortune anyway that they would probably sell their own grandma just to get a slice of the pie. They will quite happily wear any tasteless crap because I expect they get most of it for free anyway - another perk of being famous.

[synergy777]

from gladiators in rome to celebs of today, its agenda control. look at the control and revenues, celebrity endorsed products, fashion, etc.

[neutron flux]

from gladiators in rome to celebs of today, its agenda control. look at the control and revenues, celebrity endorsed products, fashion, etc.


Sure, but do you need hardcore mind control on the celebs part for that? Just dangle a big check in front of some brain dead celeb and they'll be endorsing any old crap.

[synak]

I know what you're saying that the end result amounts to bread and circus', but I'm asking why they would use hardcore mind control on a celeb, when most are so hungry for fame and fortune anyway that they would probably sell their own grandma just to get a slice of the pie. They will quite happily wear any tasteless crap because I expect they get most of it for free anyway - another perk of being famous.

Because as time progresses the possibility of 'celebrities' attempting some form of blackmail or extortion increases and this kind of instability can not be risked. So long as the individual retains his/her free will the puppeteers are not entirely in control and constant unknown variables will exist. Simple bribery and deception is not enough to prevent them from occurring. Why do you think the undeniable interest in chips and so forth exists? We still posses the potential for revolution and revolt even in our diminished state.

The less room for error the more smoothly the operations will run.

[lilly555]

Yes I agree with synak here. They don't need to do this to get people to be celebrities, but by having mind control they are taking it to another level. The celebrities are not just acting the control they are being the control so that the image is to live your live in this way too (tabloids). I also think that if you have MK working for you it is much easier to get the result in a deeper way. Besides the beings in control that are doing this don't think in terms of do I "need" to do this (that is a minimalist approach, they are not miniamalists). More like in terms of what is the most extreme way that I can control/manipulate the celebrities therefore manipulating the masses in a similiar scenario. IMHO of course. :)

[carlg1212]

Britney shaves her locks.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IsyWlcQAy-Q&mode=related&search=

She showed more than her shaved head.

http://www.theradreport.com/wp-content/uploads/2006/11/britney-spears-pussy-upskirt-02.jpg

[synak]

Yes I agree with synak here. They don't need to do this to get people to be celebrities, but by having mind control they are taking it to another level. The celebrities are not just acting the control they are being the control so that the image is to live your live in this way too (tabloids). I also think that if you have MK working for you it is much easier to get the result in a deeper way. Besides the beings in control that are doing this don't think in terms of do I "need" to do this (that is a minimalist approach, they are not miniamalists). More like in terms of what is the most extreme way that I can control/manipulate the celebrities therefore manipulating the masses in a similiar scenario. IMHO of course. :)

Exactly, well said. They go for the most effective and extreme rather than anything else.

[neutron flux]

Because as time progresses the possibility of 'celebrities' attempting some form of blackmail or extortion increases and this kind of instability can not be risked. So long as the individual retains his/her free will the puppeteers are not entirely in control and constant unknown variables will exist. Simple bribery and deception is not enough to prevent them from occurring.

Why would they do hardcore mind control on a celeb and create the possibility of them blackmailing the puppeteers? (Is that what you mean?)Wouldn't it be easier to keep them in line with the threat of: "You'll never work in this town again" type of situation where they might get black-balled and end up destitute? The fear of losing what they have is usually enough.

If they did do anything to rock the boat (and let's face it most are too moronic anyway) they just either have a media blackout or some sort of smear campaign and just wheel in the next idiot.

I don't think many care about anything anyway, as the industry will naturally attract pathological deviants anyway.

[lilly555]

I think he means that if not mind conltrolled they might blackmail.

[mountain]

Why would they do hardcore mind control on a celeb and create the possibility of them blackmailing the puppeteers? (Is that what you mean?)Wouldn't it be easier to keep them in line with the threat of: "You'll never work in this town again" type of situation where they might get black-balled and end up destitute? The fear of losing what they have is usually enough.

If they did do anything to rock the boat (and let's face it most are too moronic anyway) they just either have a media blackout or some sort of smear campaign and just wheel in the next idiot.

I don't think many care about anything anyway, as the industry will naturally attract pathological deviants anyway.

When they start to mind control a young child, honestly, does any of this matter? Have you read any material regarding this issue? If so, what? Are you seeking for this thread to go into the rant room or something?

[synak]

Why would they do hardcore mind control on a celeb and create the possibility of them blackmailing the puppeteers? (Is that what you mean?)Wouldn't it be easier to keep them in line with the threat of: "You'll never work in this town again" type of situation where they might get black-balled and end up destitute? The fear of losing what they have is usually enough.

If they did do anything to rock the boat (and let's face it most are too moronic anyway) they just either have a media blackout or some sort of smear campaign and just wheel in the next idiot.

I don't think many care about anything anyway, as the industry will naturally attract pathological deviants anyway.

No thats not what I meant. The lack of said mind control is what would create an nonnegotiable puppet and leave themselves open to uncooperative individuals thus creating situations like attempted extortion and the like. Not that any 'celebrity' would succeed but it would imbalance the system that has been set up. You might run across someone who can be controlled with simple fear tactics but the next person may not be susceptible to this tactic and turn against them. In other words it is not a guarantee everyone would be this easy to maintain and the puppeteers always try their best to eliminate the possibilities of undesired results. That's where MK or what other name it may go by, comes into play.

They want control and uniform performance exactly like a herd of sheep with empty minds and no ability to think for themselves but a shepherd is needed to reinforce this and mind control takes this role.

[neutron flux]

I think he means that if not mind conltrolled they might blackmail.

Who, and for what? I think a far more effective stragedy would be to have the celeb caught on video in a compromising situation at some hollywood party.

What are they gonna do if there's a video of them with some underage girl or something?

[lilly555]

Who, and for what? I think a far more effective stragedy would be to have the celeb caught on video in a compromising situation at some hollywood party.

What are they gonna do if there's a video of them with some underage girl or something?

If celebrities not mind control they would have free thought to blackmail and the people corrupting what is happening. Cause if they were in thier right mind they would most likely want the truth to come out.

As for the sex tape part I agree with you and the MK would be the tool that encourages the celebrity to make a sex tape at an opprutune time for the masters. It could be done without MK of course. But is synek said it "minimizes risk". Which is important to them when the effectiveness of programming the masses is at stake.

Just curious, are you open to the possibility of this being true?

[neutron flux]

When they start to mind control a young child, honestly, does any of this matter?

By that you're implying that every celeb is under some sort of hardcore mind control from birth.

Have you read any material regarding this issue? If so, what? Are you seeking for this thread to go into the rant room or something?

When I think of mind control I think of greenbaum programming with Alphas, Betas, Deltas and Thetas - I don't think that celebs would have this kind of programming. Or so I think.

I'm not looking for it to be binned in the rant room - just asking questions.

No thats not what I meant. The lack of said mind control is what would create an nonnegotiable puppet and leave themselves open to uncooperative individuals thus creating situations like attempted extortion and the like. Not that any 'celebrity' would succeed but it would imbalance the system that has been set up. You might run across someone who can be controlled with simple fear tactics but the next person may not be susceptible to this tactic and turn against them. In other words it is not a guarantee everyone would be this easy to maintain and the puppeteers always try their best to eliminate the possibilities of undesired results. That's where MK or what other name it may go by, comes into play.

They want control and uniform performance exactly like a herd of sheep with empty minds and no ability to think for themselves but a shepherd is needed to reinforce this and mind control takes this role.

The thing is, if it's so easily absorbed and sold into the masses without hardcore mind control other than the media influence - how easy is it for some exec to sell it to the celeb that what they're doing is so wonderful? Anything can be reframed, and money will make people do the most ridiculous things.
And like I say, if they're pathologically deviant they wouldn't care anyway.

There's no guarantee that mind control would work on everyone and they would have to keep tabs on them for who-knows how long - do they have time for that?

I'm just curious.

[neutron flux]

Just curious, are you open to the possibility of this being true?


Sure, its just in this case it doesn't make much sense to me when there are other less elaborate ways to control people than hardcore mind control, usually reserved for far more insidious projects.

I'm open to being completly wrong about everything.

[lilly555]

Well they don't exactly have a shortage of resourses. I don't have any proof to back up what I've said in this thread btw. It's more of a gut instinct.

[synak]

Who, and for what? I think a far more effective stragedy would be to have the celeb caught on video in a compromising situation at some hollywood party.

What are they gonna do if there's a video of them with some underage girl or something?

They tried doing it to MLK with supposed "taped recordings" of him having an affair and sent him a letter (which is shown below) via Cointelpro telling him to kill himself or they would release it to the public. Obviously he refused and was assassinated a few years later. Not everyone is so easily controlled by threats.

http://i23.tinypic.com/219uexw.gif


There's no guarantee that mind control would work on everyone and they would have to keep tabs on them for who-knows how long - do they have time for that?

I'm just curious.

Not them directly, however they have people who do that for them. As time passes their surveillance capabilities increase as well. They kept tabs on Malcolm X for at least 12 years I believe until his assassination and this was well over 40 years ago.

[supertzar]

Neutron, your questions are trumped by the obvious mind controlled behavior of Anna Nicole Smith, for one. You know what I mean? Asking "why would they..." and "how could they..." kind of questions casts an aura of doubt, more so because there are not always clear answers. What is clear is the evidence of multiple personalities in the "Anna Whacked on Drugs" video. If you don't know about MPD/DID, read up on it and maybe you will begin to see for yourself how it works. It seems to be extremely common, unfortunately, especially in icons like Anna.

[mountain]

This clip of Anna Nicole Smith is said to be a 4 year old alter of herself, prior to her death.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=DULYGi6dnvw

[neutron flux]

They tried doing it to MLK with supposed "taped recordings" of him having an affair and sent him a letter (which is shown below) via Cointelpro telling him to kill himself or they would release it to the public. Obviously he refused and was assassinated a few years later. Not everyone is so easily controlled by threats.
Not them directly, however they have people who do that for them. As time passes their surveillance capabilities increase as well. They kept tabs on Malcolm X for at least 12 years I believe until his assassination and this was well over 40 years ago.


I think you're drifting because obviously MLK or Malcolm X were creating social change, so of course they are going to be a target and have surveillance - I'm not disputing that.

What I'm saying is I don't think that modern day celebs like Britney Spears are mind controlled.


Neutron, your questions are trumped by the obvious mind controlled behavior of Anna Nicole Smith, for one. You know what I mean? Asking "why would they..." and "how could they..." kind of questions casts an aura of doubt, more so because there are not always clear answers.

I think we should ask questions and raise doubts on something we have no proof off.

What is clear is the evidence of multiple personalities in the "Anna Whacked on Drugs" video. If you don't know about MPD/DID, read up on it and maybe you will begin to see for yourself how it works. It seems to be extremely common, unfortunately, especially in icons like Anna.

That does not constitute evidence of MPD/DID, she looks to me whacked out on drugs, although they would target her in order to kill her though because of her fortune, as some viewed it as theft (the family of the dead tycoon)

I'm not saying mind control does not go on, of course it does - but it seems to me there is little evidence to suggest modern day celebs are mind controlled - although that doesn't mean they aren't - I just wanted opinions on why they would be mind controlled and for what purpose.

To my understanding these would be examples of programming:

Alphas appear to represent general programming, the first kind of things put in.

Betas appear to be sexual programs.

Deltas are killers trained in how to kill in ceremonies. There'll also be some self- harm stuff mixed in with that, assassination and killing.

Thetas are called psychic killers.

Omega has to do with self-destruct programming. Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. This can include self-mutilation as well as killing- themselves programming.

It seems to me you'd want to program people (and I mean hardcore programming, not trend setting or whatever) you would want people that aren't in the public eye, but of course I could be wrong.

[deca]

Please remember mkultra was in the 50,60,70`s ok its 2007 They do this shit remote in real time 24/7 with AI scripts can change your emotions good/bad push thoughts, images, Think talk back to the perps.Manlipualte your body.
they can make you feel good or bad with out drugs in seconds.
yeah it is fucking unbelievable.

[supertzar]

I think we should ask questions and raise doubts on something we have no proof off.


I agree, of course. The video of Anna is "proof," though. Strong evidence, actually. I don't really believe in proof. You can buy into the whacked on drugs idea, but it's not correct. If you knew someone with child alters and personally met the kids on many occasions, you would understand.

[synak]

I think you're drifting because obviously MLK or Malcolm X were creating social change, so of course they are going to be a target and have surveillance - I'm not disputing that.

I'm not drifting in any form whatsoever and you seem to be forgetting your original questions which I was answering.

Who, and for what? I think a far more effective stragedy would be to have the celeb caught on video in a compromising situation at some hollywood party.

What are they gonna do if there's a video of them with some underage girl or something?

Thus I cited the MLK case where the above measures were taken and failed. They know threats of bad publicity, "secret videos and recordings", etc. alone are not efficient.


There's no guarantee that mind control would work on everyone and they would have to keep tabs on them for who-knows how long - do they have time for that?

You asked me if they had time for that and I pointed you to the resources and examples of their surveillance capabilities and how they've evolved.

What I said was entirely relevant.

[neutron flux]

I agree, of course. The video of Anna is "proof," though. Strong evidence, actually. I don't really believe in proof. You can buy into the whacked on drugs idea, but it's not correct. If you knew someone with child alters and personally met the kids on many occasions, you would understand.


True, I've never (knowingly) met anyone with MPD/DID so I could be wrong.

I'm not drifting in any form whatsoever and you seem to be forgetting your original questions which I was answering.


Okay, fair enough.

You asked me if they had time for that and I pointed you to the resources and examples of their surveillance capabilities and how they've evolved.

What I said was entirely relevant.

True, they have resources, but is it worth keeping tabs on all the idiot celebs? Someone like MLK I can understand.

[lilly555]

I think that they want to keep tabs on them anyways and if thier MK'd it would be easier to do this.

[synak]

True, they have resources, but is it worth keeping tabs on all the idiot celebs? Someone like MLK I can understand.

To be honest they keep tabs on all of us to an extent, (every call we make for example is monitored) but the 'celebrities' who are an asset to them or carrying out a specific purpose for the agenda must be watched very thoroughly at all times. There is undoubtedly a large number of ways that is done. Others are likely kept under tabs but perhaps to a lesser point or priority.

[neutron flux]

The thing is, in terms of an agenda, wouldn't it be better to control (and I mean MK'd etc and I expect they do)the writers, producers, directors in the media than the actual person who sings, or reads from an autocue, or acts badly in a movie? Or are you thinking they just do both?

It doesn't seem really all that logical (to me anyway) to bother with "the talent", just control the source.

[synak]

Because its not the writers, directors, or producers that the people worship and idolize as gods/goddesses in one form or the other. The person who sings and or acts out the said material might eventually begin to question what he/she is doing and even refuse to continue.

I sometimes myself wonder where some of the film scripts and written songs actually originate from. I suspect and I may be wrong, that perhaps there is a select group of people employed behind the scenes whom have the necessary knowledge required to produce these pieces.

[mountain]

According to Cathy O'Brien, they "create" the talent. She says that country musice and rock & roll were created for drug operations.

[neutron flux]

The person who sings and or acts out the said material might eventually begin to question what he/she is doing and even refuse to continue.


Then they could just say, "Ok, off to the unemployment line", and find someone without a conscience to replace them.

Could you give an example of something that has been spat out of the entertainment machine that you really think is objectionable, that some have been forced to do because of the said mind control?

As mindless as the entertainment industry is, I can't think of any.

[synak]

Yes but sending a high percentage of these people to the 'unemployment line' ever so often would be extremely counter productive for them. Nothing would be completed or achieved. Constantly restarting the engine so frequently is inefficient and leads to failure.

One particular piece alone would not fully incorporate and illustrate this I believe. I can say most mainstream forms of entertainment have their elements and symptoms though.

[neutron flux]

Yes but sending a high percentage of these people to the 'unemployment line' ever so often would be extremely counter productive for them. Nothing would be completed or achieved. Constantly restarting the engine so frequently is inefficient and leads to failure.


There's always a sucker for the entertainment mince machine, just look at the amount of people who go to Hollywood to be an actor, or the amount of people who show up for those X-Factor/American Idol auditions. The market is saturated with wannabees.

This is why I don't think that most celebs are part of some hardcore mind control program because there's always someone else ready to take their place. You just don't need it.

One day you're on top, the next you're Steve Guttenberg.

[nickatnoon61]

Anyone who votes for a Govern-ment is mind controlled, anyone who underwent state education is mind controlled and most people who speak english in the modern world are mind controlled...

peace

Mickeyjay, until you have read TRANCE by Cathy O'Brien, or other books concerning MKUtra, you will have no idea what the difference is. For example, what if someone, while you were still in the womb,stuck hypo needles in you and carried on after you were born, beating the crap out of you every day, or cattle prods every day for the rest of your life??? R U starting to get the picture???? Do some research on it and you will see the difference. It is called trauma-based mind-control. It was in a few of Icke's books. cya bud.

[nickatnoon61]

No because perpertrators are victims, too.

Exactly mountain, the ones who do the most traumatizing, escape the abuse, themselves. It is just survival to them! Anyone would do the same under the circumstances!

[nickatnoon61]

If you really must know, I was given a fair list of people who were all said to be part of mind control programs in all their guises, by someone who I trust a lot, someone I know that has a lot of connections within British intelligence.

I was asked not to show it to a soul, I never did and it is safely tucked away in someone's loft in the U.K.

She told me that most of them can be traced back to one sole controller. She said his name but I forgot as he was no one famous, and it was 7 years ago..

All I can say, is that it was a who's who of British media.

They're largely put amongst symbolism on public display.

Here is a blatant example and a clue. What is the society that George Orwell speaks about in 1984. There is a celebrity version of the name. Watch it next time.

And also, you will find a huge amount of names encrypted within their names, as well as numbers..

Was it Dr. Ewan Cameron ,Strider?

[nickatnoon61]

what chicks are mind controlled, i read that helen mirren had a masonic tatoo on her hand, and she is east european, helen mirren like many other actors/actresses is a stage name.

synergy, it is not which ones ARE mind-controlled, it is which ones ARE NOT!!!

THEY ALL ARE IMO.

[nickatnoon61]

what chicks are mind controlled, i read that helen mirren had a masonic tatoo on her hand, and she is east european, helen mirren like many other actors/actresses is a stage name.

synergy, it is not which ones ARE mind-controlled, it is which ones ARE NOT!!!

THEY ALL ARE, IMO.

[nickatnoon61]

for control, so they do what they are told to do, make what music, push their agenda. most artists don't write their own music/lyrics, they just sing/mime them. when they have served their purpose, look how quickly management/record companies drop people. with the same managment that got them famous, how come overnight the artists fall off, its the same company, marketing teams etc.

synergy, never mind how many have fallen off! What about how many have been "suicided" at the age their programming breaks down, between the age of 30-40?

[nickatnoon61]

Because as time progresses the possibility of 'celebrities' attempting some form of blackmail or extortion increases and this kind of instability can not be risked. So long as the individual retains his/her free will the puppeteers are not entirely in control and constant unknown variables will exist. Simple bribery and deception is not enough to prevent them from occurring. Why do you think the undeniable interest in chips and so forth exists? We still posses the potential for revolution and revolt even in our diminished state.
good answer syntak!!!

[nickatnoon61]

Why would they do hardcore mind control on a celeb and create the possibility of them blackmailing the puppeteers? (Is that what you mean?)Wouldn't it be easier to keep them in line with the threat of: "You'll never work in this town again" type of situation where they might get black-balled and end up destitute? The fear of losing what they have is usually enough.

If they did do anything to rock the boat (and let's face it most are too moronic anyway) they just either have a media blackout or some sort of smear campaign and just wheel in the next idiot.

I don't think many care about anything anyway, as the industry will naturally attract pathological deviants anyway.

neutron, why would anyone want to have control of anyone in the first place? Wouldn't that entity have to be very imbalanced, non-loving, or sick in the head?Who am I describing here? Could it be the Zionists/Illuminati/jesuits/Catholic Church? Do you think we got to this stage, of mass mind-control, with just a few bribes or threats? There is much more behind it than that, pal.I hope this thread piques yours, and everyone elses interest to do more research on the subject. If you do , I guarantee, you will start to see behind the veil of deception!

[nickatnoon61]

riginally Posted by neutron flux
There's no guarantee that mind control would work on everyone and they would have to keep tabs on them for who-knows how long - do they have time for that?

I'm just curious.

Good question NF, that is why every movie,tv show, song lyrics have hidden "triggers" to keep the MKs in their trances. They are also programmed to cut themselves, or other overt behavior when they start to de-program. That is why OJ's hand was cut, but the bloody glove wasn't! This phenomenom is way more pervasive than people think!

[nickatnoon61]

Well they don't exactly have a shortage of resourses. I don't have any proof to back up what I've said in this thread btw. It's more of a gut instinct.

Lilly, gut-instinct, or a better word,INTUITION is more reliable than most people give it credit for!

[nickatnoon61]

I think you're drifting because obviously MLK or Malcolm X were creating social change, so of course they are going to be a target and have surveillance - I'm not disputing that.

What I'm saying is I don't think that modern day celebs like Britney Spears are mind controlled.




I think we should ask questions and raise doubts on something we have no proof off.



That does not constitute evidence of MPD/DID, she looks to me whacked out on drugs, although they would target her in order to kill her though because of her fortune, as some viewed it as theft (the family of the dead tycoon)

I'm not saying mind control does not go on, of course it does - but it seems to me there is little evidence to suggest modern day celebs are mind controlled - although that doesn't mean they aren't - I just wanted opinions on why they would be mind controlled and for what purpose.

To my understanding these would be examples of programming:

Alphas appear to represent general programming, the first kind of things put in.

Betas appear to be sexual programs.

Deltas are killers trained in how to kill in ceremonies. There'll also be some self- harm stuff mixed in with that, assassination and killing.

Thetas are called psychic killers.

Omega has to do with self-destruct programming. Alpha and Omega, the beginning and the end. This can include self-mutilation as well as killing- themselves programming.

It seems to me you'd want to program people (and I mean hardcore programming, not trend setting or whatever) you would want people that aren't in the public eye, but of course I could be wrong.

neutron, if you believe any of the pulp that goes on in Hollywood/TV/media then you need to be DE-PROGRAMMED! I have researched this subject near 8 years and when one gets some pieces of the puzzle the picture begins to come together! I have , what I believe, to be an accurate picture.

[nickatnoon61]

Then they could just say, "Ok, off to the unemployment line", and find someone without a conscience to replace them.

Could you give an example of something that has been spat out of the entertainment machine that you really think is objectionable, that some have been forced to do because of the said mind control?

As mindless as the entertainment industry is, I can't think of any.

ALL OF IT, and ALL OF THEM....but of course, you and many others will reject that, and start calling me crazy! That is how you and all of us are mind-controlled.

NF, you are very naive, my friend. If you want to know, research for years, like I have, and many others who try to get this out to the "fluoridated brains"! That book "TRANCE" by Cathy O'Brien, jumped out at me from the table! I had to buy it!

[neutron flux]

neutron, why would anyone want to have control of anyone in the first place? Wouldn't that entity have to be very imbalanced, non-loving, or sick in the head?Who am I describing here? Could it be the Zionists/Illuminati/jesuits/Catholic Church? Do you think we got to this stage, of mass mind-control, with just a few bribes or threats? There is much more behind it than that, pal.I hope this thread piques yours, and everyone elses interest to do more research on the subject. If you do , I guarantee, you will start to see behind the veil of deception!


Waaaay ahead of you on that.

Good question NF, that is why every movie,tv show, song lyrics have hidden "triggers" to keep the MKs in their trances. They are also programmed to cut themselves, or other overt behavior when they start to de-program.

You can't assert that every movie,tv show or song lyric has "triggers" in it. The logistics alone would be an undertaking.

But I do know of one movie that has definite triggers: Trancers 2

neutron, if you believe any of the pulp that goes on in Hollywood/TV/media then you need to be DE-PROGRAMMED!

I'm not sure what you're talking about here because this is a response to my post where I'm talking about Alphas and Betas etc which are part of Greenbaum programming, which you should know about....unless you failed to research that.

I have researched this subject near 8 years and when one gets some pieces of the puzzle the picture begins to come together!

Good for you, does it make you feel important to tell me that?

I have , what I believe, to be an accurate picture.

Sorry, but beliefs don't mean a damn to me - "Just the facts, maam"

ALL OF IT, and ALL OF THEM....but of course, you and many others will reject that, and start calling me crazy!

Is that a belief or fact?

NF, you are very naive, my friend. If you want to know, research for years, like I have, and many others who try to get this out to the "fluoridated brains"! That book "TRANCE" by Cathy O'Brien, jumped out at me from the table! I had to buy it!

Oh yes, the book written by one of the most mindf*cked people on the planet, deprogrammed by an FBI agent - forgive me for being naive as to think that maybe she's been so messed up that some of it might not be accurate or be distorted to muddy the waters.

Just for the record, how many famous people have come forward of how they've been MK'd? I've only heard of "normal" people. Where's all the celebs with their stories? Have I missed them?

Why don't they "trigger" people like Sean Penn when he says Bush should be in jail or Rosie o donnell when she had her little rant about the networks and 911?

[nickatnoon61]

Waaaay ahead of you on that.



You can't assert that every movie,tv show or song lyric has "triggers" in it. The logistics alone would be an undertaking.

But I do know of one movie that has definite triggers: Trancers 2



I'm not sure what you're talking about here because this is a response to my post where I'm talking about Alphas and Betas etc which are part of Greenbaum programming, which you should know about....unless you failed to research that.



Good for you, does it make you feel important to tell me that?



Sorry, but beliefs don't mean a damn to me - "Just the facts, maam"



Is that a belief or fact?



Oh yes, the book written by one of the most mindf*cked people on the planet, deprogrammed by an FBI agent - forgive me for being naive as to think that maybe she's been so messed up that some of it might not be accurate or be distorted to muddy the waters.

Just for the record, how many famous people have come forward of how they've been MK'd? I've only heard of "normal" people. Where's all the celebs with their stories? Have I missed them?

Why don't they "trigger" people like Sean Penn when he says Bush should be in jail or Rosie o donnell when she had her little rant about the networks and 911? Hey mama's boy...YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. Call your mama and ask her to pull the dictionary out of yer ass and look up the word trigger! then.......

GO BACK TO SLEEP PAL!!! YOU WOULDN'T KNOW A FACT IF IT KICKED YOU IN THE CROTCH!!!

[carlg1212]

According to Cathy O'Brien, they "create" the talent. She says that country musice and rock & roll were created for drug operations.

I've read "Trance-formation". After a while, my brain hurt. But the whole time, I'm thinking, "Where's the evidence?". Maybe it's not possible to get the evidence, but that doesn't mean I should believe everything she says.

But, there's no question the music industry is, has, and always will be run by megalomaniacs.

[nickatnoon61]

I've read "Trance-formation". After a while, my brain hurt. But the whole time, I'm thinking, "Where's the evidence?". Maybe it's not possible to get the evidence, but that doesn't mean I should believe everything she says.

But, there's no question the music industry is, has, and always will be run by megalomaniacs.

There is more than one source of this info carlg. I have read a lot of them for free, on the net, because I think it is important, to find out what is going on behind the veil. Most, like mamas boy, Neutron Flux, don't even know there is a veil, let alone, try to look behind it! It's worth it tho, taking insults from creeps like him, is worthit,if only a few read this thread and research MK Ultra. I have read about Dr. Ewan Cameron, (who has been in mainstream newspapers)and his experimentation with unwitting human subjects in Montreal.Like I said before, I have a personal male friend who was raped repeatedly by Brian Mulroney and others. I met 2 guys a few years ago who had a RCMP friend who used to be assigned to Mulroney, and protect him from public scrutiny,because he was raping young children!!!This RCMP resigned because he has a conscience. But it doesn't matter what evidence is presented. The drones will be drones, and do what drones do!

[mountain]

There is more than one source of this info carlg. I have read a lot of them for free, on the net, because I think it is important, to find out what is going on behind the veil. Most, like mamas boy, Neutron Flux, don't even know there is a veil, let alone, try to look behind it! It's worth it tho, taking insults from creeps like him, if only a few read this thread and research MK Ultra. I have read about Dr. Ewan Cameron, (who has been in mainstream newspapers)and his experimentation with unwitting human subjects in Montreal.Like I said before, I have a personal male friend who was raped repeatedly by Brian Mulroney and others. I met 2 guys a few years ago who had a RCMP friend who used to be assigned to Mulroney, and protect him from public scrutiny,because of raping young children!!!But it doesn't matter what evidence is presented. The drones will be drones, and do what drones do!

Hello, Nick! There is a movie about Ewan Cameron and some of his "subjects". It is called The Sleep Room. This movie has very little popularity, and luckily (or rather magnetically) I came upon it in Wal-Mart of all places! it is quite lengthy and it sheds some light on MKULTRA.
It shows how Ewan used various methods of mind control on people with mental instability i.e. a young woman who was molested by her father seeking professional help.

If you haven't seen this film, I highly recommend it.

[nickatnoon61]

Hello, Nick! There is a movie about Ewan Cameron and some of his "subjects". It is called The Sleep Room. This movie has very little popularity, and luckily (or rather magnetically) I came upon it in Wal-Mart of all places! it is quite lengthy and it sheds some light on MKULTRA.
It shows how Ewan used various methods of mind control on people with mental instability i.e. a young woman who was molested by her father seeking professional help.

If you haven't seen this film, I highly recommend it.
Thanx mountain, Cameron is Canadian, you know. It is easier to relate to issues in my own country. I will google it and see if it is available at the video store.
cheers...:) BTW What the heck are you doing patronizing Wal mart??? I hope you werre shoplifting!!! (= Here is one review from IMDB.....I bought this DVD during the blitz sales when Tower Records was going out of business. It looked interesting enough to buy for $5.00, but now that I have watched it, I would have been just as happy paying full price.

The performances were mostly above par, with a few exceptionally believable characters. The production was excellent, as was the directing. What makes this film stand out is being based on a true story of yet another infamous CIA excursion into ruining people's lives. What I was shocked to find out about was how the Canadian government fit into it all as well. The MK- Ultra tests are now infamous, even if primarily to conspiracy theorists. However, this particular test was one that they admitted, and theoretically apologized for.

The film is a bit long, but captivating, at just around 3 hours. The story begins with the patients at a mental hospital with a doctor trying to cope with his own ego and feelings of inadequacies. When he realizes the usefulness of psychotropic drugs and other invasive techniques, he believes he is helping mankind, while unwittingly (at the start) helping the CIA perfect torture techniques while using unwitting human test subjects. Later, after the film establishes the horrors and introduces you to the characters, it switches to the attorneys who take on the CIA in a court case to get admission to fault, and compensation to the remaining victims. A sad story by the end, but one that will last in your mind. Exceptional.

[cmdr_sabbathius]

All the monarch mind control can't be kept up forever. It's eventually gonna all come crashing down midflight before we know it.

[nickatnoon61]

All the monarch mind control can't be kept up forever. It's eventually gonna all come crashing down midflight before we know it.

Aye Aye commander!!! :eek: In our lifetime too!!! :)

[neutron flux]

Hey mama's boy...YOU DON'T EVEN KNOW WHAT I AM TALKING ABOUT. Call your mama and ask her to pull the dictionary out of yer ass and look up the word trigger! then.......

GO BACK TO SLEEP PAL!!! YOU WOULDN'T KNOW A FACT IF IT KICKED YOU IN THE CROTCH!!!


In other words: you can't answer so you indulge in childish behaviour.

Is that the best you can do what with 8 years of "research" under your belt?

There is more than one source of this info carlg. I have read a lot of them for free, on the net, because I think it is important, to find out what is going on behind the veil. Most, like mamas boy, Neutron Flux, don't even know there is a veil, let alone, try to look behind it!

You're funny. :p

It's worth it tho, taking insults from creeps like him

You're insulted? About what?


(From another thread)

I experienced the aversion to intimacy from a GF. She also wouldnt let me see her naked. THAT DROVE ME NUTS UNTIL I PULLED THE COVERS OFF AND TURNED THE LIGHTS ON!!! haha She was really messed up from her French Catholic background, and sexual abuse. They are like superstitious,ignorant,backward, hillbillies!!!!

What a guy! :rolleyes:

I am no psychic,(maybe psychotic,tho he he}

[nickatnoon61]

In other words: you can't answer so you indulge in childish behaviour.

Is that the best you can do what with 8 years of "research" under your belt?



You're funny. :p



You're insulted? About what?


(From another thread)



What a guy! :rolleyes:
mama's Boy said: You're insulted? About what?

Nick said: ABOUT THIS, MAMA'S BOY.........
Good for you, does it make you feel important to tell me that?

[neutron flux]

Well the patronizing tone, baseless assumptions and the unnecessary declaration of how long you may have studied the said subject lead me to believe that this makes you feel important and thus an authority that can't be questioned.

"Self-importance is our greatest enemy. Think about it--what weakens us is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of our fellow men. Our self-importance requires that we spend most of our lives offended by someone." - Carlos Castaneda

"A decent man will behave decently even if he thinks that he has been treated unjustly or wrongly. But many people in such circumstances show a side of their nature which otherwise they would never show. And at times it is a necessary means for exposing a man´s nature. So long as you are good to a man he is good to you. But what will he be like if you scratch him a little?" Gurdjieff

[nickatnoon61]

Well the patronizing tone, baseless assumptions and the unnecessary declaration of how long you may have studied the said subject lead me to believe that this makes you feel important and thus an authority that can't be questioned.

"Self-importance is our greatest enemy. Think about it--what weakens us is feeling offended by the deeds and misdeeds of our fellow men. Our self-importance requires that we spend most of our lives offended by someone." - Carlos Castaneda

"A decent man will behave decently even if he thinks that he has been treated unjustly or wrongly. But many people in such circumstances show a side of their nature which otherwise they would never show. And at times it is a necessary means for exposing a man´s nature. So long as you are good to a man he is good to you. But what will he be like if you scratch him a little?" Gurdjieff

Yes you are right on, as I would always take an informed opinion over a drone/fluoridated/TVbrain opinion, also.If you take what I say as condescending, then that sounds like personal problem you should maybe address!

[neutron flux]

Yes you are right on, as I would always take an informed opinion over a drone/fluoridated/TVbrain opinion, also.If you take what I say as condescending, then that sounds like personal problem you should maybe address!


If someone has a condescending attitude and tone to a post it's hardly my problem, I was just pointing it out. But your beliefs in this area mean nothing to me, especially when you offer no evidence or data to back up your claims.

It's a real shame when someone disagrees with you they are some sort of drone/fluoridated/tv brain - it just exposes your ignorance, and an inability to engage in a discussion.

I'm sorry if my comment made you cry.

[nickatnoon61]

If someone has a condescending attitude and tone to a post it's hardly my problem, I was just pointing it out. But your beliefs in this area mean nothing to me, especially when you offer no evidence or data to back up your claims.

It's a real shame when someone disagrees with you they are some sort of drone/fluoridated/tv brain - it just exposes your ignorance.

I'm sorry if my comment made you cry.

IT'S TOO LATE TO APOLOGIZE,Mama's Boy!!! :eek: LOL I have no problem with disagreement, but the drones never give their opinions from some evidence, or counter-claim, that they have, because they don't have any evidence. Just disbelief in something they cannot grasp, because they have never seen it on their favorite TY station. There are a few discerning ones, tho ,like myself,mountain, and a few others, who can read between the lines, thru experience. research, and gut-feelings. Then we have to listen to drivel from spiteful pissants like you, and your ilk! Any time you can come up with a logical/reasonable argument, I will respond, until then, I am not interested wasting my time.

[neutron flux]

IT'S TOO LATE TO APOLOGIZE,Mama's Boy!!! LOL I have no problem with disagreement, but the drones never give their opinions from some evidence, or counter-claim, that they have, because they don't have any evidence.

I don't need to provide evidence - it's YOU that has to provide evidence that EVERY single t.v. show, piece of music and movie has hardcore mind control triggers in it and EVERY single celebrity and artist is under mind control programs such as MKULTRA.

There are a few discerning ones, tho ,like myself,

You're funny. :p

Then we have to listen to drivel from spiteful pissants like you, and your ilk!

The mask keeps slipping showing your true character.

Any time you can come up with a logical/reasonable argument, I will respond, until then, I am not interested wasting my time.

I have and you haven't because you can't. End of. :cool:

[nickatnoon61]

I don't need to provide evidence - it's YOU that has to provide evidence that EVERY single t.v. show, piece of music and movie has hardcore mind control triggers in it and EVERY single celebrity and artist is under mind control programs such as MKULTRA.



You're funny. :p



The mask keeps slipping showing your true character.



I have and you haven't because you can't. End of. :cool:

MB, if yer tryin to be my friend, yer goin about it all wrong!!!! ha ha

[nickatnoon61]

MB, if yer tryin to be my friend, yer goin about it all wrong!!!! ha haMask?? I'm sittin' here naked!!!! :eek: All my imaginary friends think I am a koooool dooooood!!:eek: But they are MKs too!!! :D

[neutron flux]

MB, if yer tryin to be my friend, yer goin about it all wrong!!!! ha ha


No, I don't want to be friends with a phoney whose only research consists of the fact he read a book 8 years ago.

You can't answer anything so you stoop to childish name calling and a sense of superiority that I somehow want to be you friend, when in reality I was just being civil because I made you cry with this terrible and heinous comment:

Good for you, does it make you feel important to tell me that?

I know you're probably weeping now at the flashbacks of reading such a thing, but I think it was just an excuse to unleash your darkside to attempt to bully someone because you seem like the type, what with comments like this:
I experienced the aversion to intimacy from a GF. She also wouldnt let me see her naked. THAT DROVE ME NUTS UNTIL I PULLED THE COVERS OFF AND TURNED THE LIGHTS ON!!! hahaShe was really messed up from her French Catholic background, and sexual abuse. They are like superstitious,ignorant,backward, hillbillies!!!!

[mr_moon]

I like running around in fields in the open air, with a clear blue sky, the wind in my face, the sound of distant traffic and singing birds, calm thoughts of Love and Peace and no shoes on- the soft, crunchy grass between my toes.

:)

[carlg1212]

There is more than one source of this info carlg. I have read a lot of them for free, on the net, because I think it is important, to find out what is going on behind the veil. Most, like mamas boy, Neutron Flux, don't even know there is a veil, let alone, try to look behind it! It's worth it tho, taking insults from creeps like him, is worthit,if only a few read this thread and research MK Ultra. I have read about Dr. Ewan Cameron, (who has been in mainstream newspapers)and his experimentation with unwitting human subjects in Montreal.Like I said before, I have a personal male friend who was raped repeatedly by Brian Mulroney and others. I met 2 guys a few years ago who had a RCMP friend who used to be assigned to Mulroney, and protect him from public scrutiny,because he was raping young children!!!This RCMP resigned because he has a conscience. But it doesn't matter what evidence is presented. The drones will be drones, and do what drones do!

I understand, but still, it's never been proved. Granted, those too close to the truth have a funny way of drowning or electrocuting or stabbing or shooting themselves to death, and it's probably not a coincidence. That I'll agree with. Still, it doesn't prove anything, and dwelling on such matters may make one batty.

[mountain]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Y2Oy8QOoIvA

[nickatnoon61]

I understand, but still, it's never been proved. Granted, those too close to the truth have a funny way of drowning or electrocuting or stabbing or shooting themselves to death, and it's probably not a coincidence. That I'll agree with. Still, it doesn't prove anything, and dwelling on such matters may make one batty. The proof is EVERYWHERE, for those who are awake/aware....

[nickatnoon61]

I like running around in fields in the open air, with a clear blue sky, the wind in my face, the sound of distant traffic and singing birds, calm thoughts of Love and Peace and no shoes on- the soft, crunchy grass between my toes.

:)
good moonie...just keep taking your medication!!!!! ha ha :D

[raffles]

Cathy O'brien said clinton was a mind controlled puppet.
Check out this video of him in a trance, weird..

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=-5905022792832940685&q=clinton+mind&total=460&start=0&num=10&so=0&type=search&plindex=4

[mountain]

I suspect the Olsen twins, Miley Cyrus and damn near everybody in Hollywood as being a victim of MKUltra mind controlled... especially those blonde/blue-eyed celebrities. I am hoping people will share their observations.