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vienna
03-10-2007, 10:56 AM
The Climate Change Hoax

“It would seem that men and women need a common motivation, namely a common adversary, to organize and act together in the vacuum such as motivation seemed to have ceased to exist or have yet to be found. The need for enemies seems to be a common historical factor…

Bring the divided nation together to face an outside enemy, either a real one or else one invented for the purpose…

Democracy will be made to seem responsible for the lagging economy, the scarcity and uncertainties. The very concept of democracy could then be brought into question and allow for the seizure of power by extremists of one brand or the other…

In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. The real enemy [of the elites and their minions] then is humanity itself.”

- “The First Global Revolution” (1991) published by the Club of Rome. Members of the Club of Rome include: Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Bill Gates, George Soros and author of the Kyoto Protocols Maurice Strong.




The Purpose of The Banking System ;

"The Power of financial capitalism had [a] far reaching plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.
This system was to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences.

The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks, which were themselves private corporations.

Each central bank sought to dominate its government by its ability to control treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence co-operative politicians by subsequent rewards in the business world."

Carrol Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, 1966 - Bill Clinton's mentor and Georgetown University professor




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dondaz
03-10-2007, 11:19 AM
"Beware the leader who beats the drums of war in order to whip the citizenry into patriotic fervor, for patriotism is a double-edged sword.

It emboldens the blood and narrows the mind. And when the drums of war have reached fever pitch and the blood boils with hate and the mind has closed, the leader will have no need to seize the rights of the citizenry. Rather, the citizenry, infused with fear and blinded by patriotism, will offer up all of their rights unto the leader and gladly so.

How do I know?

For this is what I have done.

And I am Caesar."

albie
03-10-2007, 11:32 AM
“It would seem that men and women need a common motivation, namely a common adversary, to organize and act together in the vacuum such as motivation seemed to have ceased to exist or have yet to be found. The need for enemies seems to be a common historical factor…

Bring the divided nation together to face an outside enemy, either a real one or else one invented for the purpose…

Democracy will be made to seem responsible for the lagging economy, the scarcity and uncertainties. The very concept of democracy could then be brought into question and allow for the seizure of power by extremists of one brand or the other…

In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. The real enemy [of the elites and their minions] then is humanity itself.”

- “The First Global Revolution” (1991) published by the Club of Rome. Members of the Club of Rome include: Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Bill Gates, George Soros and author of the Kyoto Protocols Maurice Strong.

Rubbish. The article is WARNING AGAINST THIS. Not suggesting it.

As you'll see if you read it all...

http://sovereignjohn.wordpress.com/2007/07/16/the-first-global-revolution/

Tut! Disinformationists.

albie
03-10-2007, 11:38 AM
And Carrol Quigley was a conspiracy theorist giving his theory, his view on the system.

Hardly proof.

eternal_spirit
03-10-2007, 11:43 AM
And Carrol Quigley was a conspiracy theorist giving his theory, his view on the system.

Hardly proof.

............
According to Allan Watt Quigly = High masonic mouth piece.

vienna
03-10-2007, 11:46 AM
Rubbish. The article is WARNING AGAINST THIS. Not suggesting it.

As you'll see if you read it all...

http://sovereignjohn.wordpress.com/2007/07/16/the-first-global-revolution/

Tut! Disinformationists.


yep those "Disinformationists" hey 'albie' ;)

I guess if they were warning against it, it's odd they should be doing that very thing?


In his article, "Global warming hysteria serves as excuse for world government" Daniel Taylor outlined how the exploitation of the natural phenomenon of "global warming" was a pet project of the Club of Rome and the CFR

"Richard Haass, the current president of the Council on Foreign Relations, stated in his article "State sovereignty must be altered in globalized era," that a system of world government must be created and sovereignty eliminated in order to fight global warming, as well as terrorism. "Moreover, states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies if the international system is to function," says Haass. "Globalization thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves..."

an essential means of achieving global government by consent over conquest, as has long been the ultimate goal of the elite, is by "fanning public hysteria" over climate change,

FURTHER QUOTES

"The Trilateral Commission, one of the three pillars of the New World Order in alliance with Bilderberg and the CFR, met last week in near secrecy to formulate policy on how best they could exploit global warming fearmongering to ratchet up taxes and control over how westerners live their lives.

At the confab, European Chairman of the Trilateral Commission, Bilderberger and chairman of British Petroleum Peter Sutherland (pictured top), gave a speech to his elitist cohorts in which he issued a "Universal battle cry arose for the world to address “global warming” with a single voice."

Echoing this sentiment was General Lord Guthrie, director of N.M. Rothschild & Sons, member of the House of Lords and former chief of the Defense Staff in London, who urged the Trilateral power-brokers to "Address the global climate crisis with a single voice, and impose rules that apply worldwide."

Globalists love global warming! Oil industry kingpins, Bilderbergers and Rothschild minions have all put their weight behind it. This is a fraud conceived, nurtured and promulgated by elite, and to castigate individuals for merely questioning the motives behind climate change fearmongering by accusing them of being mouthpieces for the establishment is a complete reversal of the truth

vienna
03-10-2007, 11:54 AM
And Carrol Quigley was a conspiracy theorist giving his theory, his view on the system.

Hardly proof.

Tragedy and Hope is based on his analysis and extensive research in the closely-held papers of an Anglo-American elite organization to which he was given access


Quigley was professor of history at the Foreign Service School of Georgetown University, formerly taught at Princeton and at Harvard. He has done research in the archives of France, Italy, and England, and is the author of the widely praised Evolution of Civilizations and the Official Historian for the Council on Forieign relations

Quigley served as a consultant to the U.S. Department of Defense, the U.S. Navy, the Smithsonian Institute, and the United States House Select Committee on Astronautics and Space Exploration, which was important in the establishment of NASA

dondaz
03-10-2007, 12:16 PM
“It would seem that men and women need a common motivation, namely a common adversary, to organize and act together in the vacuum such as motivation seemed to have ceased to exist or have yet to be found. The need for enemies seems to be a common historical factor…

Bring the divided nation together to face an outside enemy, either a real one or else one invented for the purpose…

Democracy will be made to seem responsible for the lagging economy, the scarcity and uncertainties. The very concept of democracy could then be brought into question and allow for the seizure of power by extremists of one brand or the other…

In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. The real enemy [of the elites and their minions] then is humanity itself.”

- “The First Global Revolution” (1991) published by the Club of Rome. Members of the Club of Rome include: Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Bill Gates, George Soros and author of the Kyoto Protocols Maurice Strong.

Wether this was a warning or not is now beside the point, they are now applying what this quote says so it is relevent to the situation at hand.

Keep the NWO quotes coming;)

vienna
03-10-2007, 12:23 PM
don't let 'albie' mislead you, it's not a warning it's a revealing:

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/realityzone_1968_2540121

By Professor Carroll Quigley.


"This is the book that blows the lid off the secret organization created by Cecil Rhodes to quietly gain control over the nations of the world and establish a global government based on the model of collectivism. Professor Quigley (President Clinton’s history professor at Georgetown University) was a trusted supporter of this organization and was given access to its private papers.

When his book was released by a major New York publishing house, it was expected that it would be read only by academics who are interested in the organization’s history and sympathetic to its goals.

However, when it began to be quoted by critics, the publisher withdrew the book from print. This led to the appearance of an underground version that circulated throughout the 1970s and 80s.

Eventually, the publisher was pressured into authorizing this official reprint edition, which is an exact replica of the original. It is a mammoth history interspersed with startling information about the secret organization’s impact on almost every major event of modern history. 1348 pages, hardbound."

synergy777
03-10-2007, 01:52 PM
vienna, a kindred spirit, i did a thread like like this on illusions/old icke forum. its another paper trail aspect, well done bro. most of mone will be from this sit, probably the best conspiracy site on the web imho.

Not CIA, but the ICA, lol

Illuminati Conspiracy Archive

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/

"The owners and managers of the press determine which person, which facts, which version of the facts, and which ideas shall reach the public."
Commission On Freedom Of The Press


"The Trilateral Commission doesn't run the world, the Council on Foreign Relations does that!"
Winston Lord, Assistant Secretary of State, the U. S. State Department


"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule."
Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956), American editor, critic


"We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world. All the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands."
Arnold Toynbee, "The Trend of International Affairs Since the War", International Affairs, November 1931, p. 809


"It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am."
President George Washington, October 24, 1798, in a letter to George Washington Snyder


"The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it."
John F. Kennedy in a speech before the American Newspaper Publishers Association (27 April 1961)


"We shall have a World government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, before the U.S. Senate


"It's been demonstrated that well within two minutes of watching television, most people enter a hypnotic alpha state bordering on theta. Viewers in this state are no longer able to critically evaluate, discern, or pass judgement from their own moral database on the material being viewed. The information just flows, unimpeded, into their subconscious year in and year out."
Jeff Rense, talk-radio host

vienna
03-10-2007, 01:56 PM
vienna, a kindred spirit, i did a thread like like this on illusions/old icke forum. its another paper trail aspect, well done bro. most of mone will be from this sit, probably the best conspiracy site on the web imho.

Not CIA, but the ICA, lol

Illuminati Conspiracy Archive

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/

"The owners and managers of the press determine which person, which facts, which version of the facts, and which ideas shall reach the public."
Commission On Freedom Of The Press


"The Trilateral Commission doesn't run the world, the Council on Foreign Relations does that!"
Winston Lord, Assistant Secretary of State, the U. S. State Department


"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule."
Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956), American editor, critic


"We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world. All the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands."
Arnold Toynbee, "The Trend of International Affairs Since the War", International Affairs, November 1931, p. 809


"It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am."
President George Washington, October 24, 1798, in a letter to George Washington Snyder


"The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it."
John F. Kennedy in a speech before the American Newspaper Publishers Association (27 April 1961)


"We shall have a World government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, before the U.S. Senate


"It's been demonstrated that well within two minutes of watching television, most people enter a hypnotic alpha state bordering on theta. Viewers in this state are no longer able to critically evaluate, discern, or pass judgement from their own moral database on the material being viewed. The information just flows, unimpeded, into their subconscious year in and year out."
Jeff Rense, talk-radio host


great stuff, it's definative quotes like this that we need when we're posting on other messageboards (BBC etc) to wake the termites up

synergy777
03-10-2007, 01:59 PM
"Almost all people are hypnotics. The proper authority saw to it that the proper belief should be induced, and the people believed properly."
Charles H. Fort

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes."
Justice Felix Frankfurter (1882-1965) U.S. Supreme Court Justice

The curse of our time is the proliferation of so-called 'think tanks' that advise our public leaders. Their influence has increased tremendously during recent years.
Alfred M. Lilienthal, September 20, 2003

"Not only were many of the founders of the United States government Masons, but they received aid from a secret and august body existing in Europe which helped them to establish this country for A PECULIAR AND PARTICULAR PURPOSE known only to the initiated few."
Manly P. Hall, The Secret Teachings of All Ages, pp. XC and XCI

"Men occasionally stumble over the truth, but most of them pick themselves up and hurry off as if nothing ever happened."
Sir Winston Churchill

"A world society cannot be haphazard. Since there are no precedents, it cannot be traditional at this stage of development. It can only be deliberate and experimental, planned and built up with particular objectives and with the aid of all available knowledge concerning the principles of social organization. Social engineering is a new science."
Scott Nearing, a socialist and advocate of World Government - United World, 1944, p.221

synergy777
03-10-2007, 02:12 PM
"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people. To destroy this invisible government, to befoul the unholy alliance between corrupt business and corrupt politics is the first task of the statesmanship of the day."
Theodore Roosevelt, April 19, 1906

"This Act (the Federal Reserve Act, Dec. 23rd 1913) establishes the most gigantic trust on earth. When the President (Woodrow Wilson) signs the Bill, the invisible government of the Monetary Power will be legalised... The worst legislative crime of the ages is perpetrated by this banking and currency Bill."
Charles A. Lindbergh, Sr.

"Language is a field of battle, the media is the artillery, and vocabulary is the ammunition. The NWO has taken the field by storm, and is proceeding with coordinated attacks on several fronts, using all the latest high-tech vocabulary ammunition. They've laid a bed of land mines that cripple us when we try to stand on them: 'liberalism', conservatism', prosperity', 'democracy'."
Richard Moore, Doublespeak

(newspeak/doublespeak/opposames/controlled oppostion are todays "Spin/PR")

"I have the greatest admiration for your propaganda. Propaganda in the West is carried out by experts who have had the best training in the world — in the field of advertizing — and have mastered the techniques with exceptional proficiency ... Yours are subtle and persuasive; ours are crude and obvious ... I think that the fundamental difference between our worlds, with respect to propaganda, is quite simple. You tend to believe yours ... and we tend to disbelieve ours."
Soviet correspondent based five years in the U.S.

"The Central Intelligence Agency owns everyone of any significance in the major media."
William Colby (Former CIA Director)

"Electronic communication and rapid transportation make possible a stifling world government. Techniques such as genetic engineering, psychoactive drugs and electronic control of the brain make possible a transformation of the species into docile, fully-obedient, 'safe' organisms."
William Sims Bainbridge

vienna
03-10-2007, 03:00 PM
I'm surprised 'albie' hasn't popped in telling you all those quotes are misleading...or maybe his internet shift at Mi5 has ended and he's clocked off already

howie
03-10-2007, 03:02 PM
David Cameron just said "New World Order" at the live tory conference on Sky News.

synak
03-10-2007, 03:06 PM
"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes." --Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli of England, in 1844.

"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England ... (and) ... believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established."--
Professor of History Carroll Quigley, Georgetown University, in his book "Tragedy and Hope".

"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
- Woodrow Wilson

"[The New World Order] cannot happen without U.S. participation, as we are the most significant single component. Yes, there will be a New World Order, and it will force the United States to change it's perceptions."
- Henry Kissenger, World Affairs Council Press Conference, Regent Beverly Wilshire Hotel , April 19th 1994

thetonic
03-10-2007, 03:17 PM
"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England ... (and) ... believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule established."--
Professor of History Carroll Quigley, Georgetown University, in his book "Tragedy and Hope".


Why is Watt always calling people "Freemasons" without offer any proof... Is everyone in the world a bloody freemason but me?:confused:

dondaz
03-10-2007, 03:41 PM
"Corporations have been enthroned. An era of corruption in high places will follow and the money power will endeavor to prolong its reign by working on the prejudices of the people . . until wealth is aggregated in a few hands . . . and the Republic is destroyed." - Abraham Lincoln.

thetonic
03-10-2007, 03:49 PM
"But this secrecy... has become a god in this country, and those people who have secrets travel in a kind of fraternity... and they will not speak to anyone else." - Senator J. William Fulbright
Chairman, Senate Foreign Relations Committee
November 1971

dondaz
03-10-2007, 03:54 PM
The Bilderberg Group is also called the "invisible world government". Because of the character of the meetings it is clearly bribery on the behalf of the politicians who are taking part. Here they are suggested to betray their own countries by selling out their sovereign states to the EU by deceiving their own people ... This is what many of our elected politicians secretly are doing behind our backs - it is High Treason.


Not sure who said that?

dondaz
03-10-2007, 05:18 PM
Secretary of State John Hutton said:

"We must redouble our efforts to ensure we reach our goal, focussing on all the drivers of social exclusion that hold people back from achieving their true potential."

U.S. Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas once reminded a group of young lawyers "As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of darkness".

fresco
03-10-2007, 06:18 PM
"We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as in words and money."

Arthur Schlesinger, Jr., in Foreign Affairs (July/August 1995)

"The world is governed by personalities very different to what people
that cannot see further than their eyes, believe"

- Benjamin Disraeli - (Statesman)

"in politics nothing is accidental. If something happens, be assured it was
planned this way"

- Franklin D. Roosevelt - (32 Degree Freemason)

fresco
03-10-2007, 06:28 PM
"Today, I say that no nation in the world need be left out of the global system we are constructing."

- Madeleine Albright -

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes."

Supreme Court Justice Felix Frankfurter, 1952

"Fifty men have run America, and that's a high figure."

Joseph Kennedy, father of JFK, in the July 26th, l936 issue of The New York Times.

fresco
03-10-2007, 06:33 PM
"The New World Order will have to be built from the bottom up rather than from the top down...but in the end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece will accomplish much more than the old fashioned frontal assault."

CFR member Richard Gardner, writing in the April l974 issue of the CFR's journal, Foreign Affairs.

"The peace conference has assembled. It will make the most momentous decisions in history, and upon these decisions will rest the stability of the new world order and the future peace of the world."

M. C. Alexander, Executive Secretary of the American Association for International Conciliation, in a subscription letter for the periodical International Conciliation (1919)

"... when the struggle seems to be drifting definitely towards a world social democracy, there may still be very great delays and disappointments before it becomes an efficient and beneficent world system. Countless people ... will hate the new world order ... and will die protesting against it. When we attempt to evaluate its promise, we have to bear in mind the distress of a generation or so of malcontents, many of them quite gallant and graceful-looking people."

H. G. Wells, in his book entitled The New World Order (1939)

fresco
03-10-2007, 06:41 PM
"Further global progress is now possible only through a quest for universal consensus in the movement towards a new world order."

Mikhail Gorbachev, in an address at the United Nations (December 1988)

"If we do not follow the dictates of our inner moral compass and stand up for human life, then his lawlessness will threaten the peace and democracy of the emerging new world order we now see, this long dreamed-of vision we've all worked toward for so long."

President George Bush (January 1991)

"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation."

David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

fresco
03-10-2007, 06:57 PM
"Everything secret degenerates, even the administration of justice;
nothing is safe that does not show how it can bear discussion and publicity."

Lord Acton

"The ruling class has the schools and press under its thumb.
This enables it to sway the emotions of the masses."

Albert Einstein

http://quotes.liberty-tree.ca/quotes_about/illuminati

king
03-10-2007, 06:58 PM
And Carrol Quigley was a conspiracy theorist giving his theory, his view on the system.

Hardly proof.

Quigley was one of them
just like Manly P.Hall was one of them
just like Lord Bertrand Russell was.

others like Charles Galton Darwin, Jaques Attali and Jacques Ellul (to name a few) also wrote the books in which they "predicted" the future, and they also happened to work for the same elite as former mentioned people have.

Isn't it ironic that much of what they predicted already happened or is happening now?

Plato worked for the same "guardian class"

fresco
03-10-2007, 07:01 PM
Other sites worth checking out :

http://www.illuminati-news.com/quotes.htm

http://www.missionislam.com/nwo/illuminati.htm

http://www.fdrs.org/illuminati_quotes.html

synergy777
03-10-2007, 07:10 PM
"The conscious and intelligent manipulation of the organized habits and opinions of the masses is an important element in democratic society. Those who manipulate this unseen mechanism of society constitute an invisible government which is the true ruling power of our country."
Edward Bernays, Propaganda (1928)


"The whole aim of practical politics is to keep the populace alarmed, and thus clamorous to be led to safety, by menacing it with an endless series of hobgoblins, all of them imaginary."
H.L. Mencken or in other words synthetic terror/controlled oppostion like al ciada.


"We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world. All the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands."
Arnold Toynbee, "The Trend of International Affairs Since the War", International Affairs, November 1931, p. 809


"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels."
Prince Phillip, Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund - quoted in 'Are You Ready For Our New Age Future?', Insiders Report, American Policy Center, December '95


"Childbearing [should be] a punishable crime against society, unless the parents hold a government license ... All potential parents [should be] required to use contraceptive chemicals, the government issuing antidotes to citizens chosen for childbearing."
David Brower - first Executive Director of the Sierra Club; founder of Friends of the Earth; and founder of the Earth Island Institute - quoted by Dixie Lee Ray, Trashing the Planet, p.166


"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws."
Amschel Mayer Rothschild, 1773-1855


"Whoever controls the volume of money in any country is absolute master of all industry and commerce."
James A. Garfield


"There does exist, and has existed for a generation, an international Anglophile network which operates, to some extent in the way the radical Right believes the Communists act. In fact, this network, which we may identify as the Round Table Groups, has no aversion to cooperating with the Communists, or any other groups, and frequently does so. I know of the operation of this network because I have studied it for twenty years, and was permitted for two years, in the early 1960s, to examine its papers and secret records."
Carroll Quigley, Georgetown University history professor (deceased), in Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in Our Time, 1966, p. 950


"The real danger is the gradual erosion of individual liberties through automation, integration, and interconnection of many small, separate record-keeping systems, each of which alone may seem innocuous, even benevolent, and wholly justifiable."
U. S. Privacy Study Commission, 1977

synergy777
03-10-2007, 07:16 PM
"Complete and accurate surveillance as a means of control is probably a practical impossibility. What is much more likely is a loss of privacy and constant inconvenience as the wrong people gain access to information, as one wastes time convincing the inquisitors that one is in fact innocent, or as one struggles to untangle the errors of the errant machine."
Victor Ferkiss, Technological Man: The Myth and the Reality, 1969


"A clique of U.S. industrialists is hell-bent to bring a fascist state to supplant our democratic government and is working closely with the fascist regime in Germany and Italy. I have had plenty of opportunity in my post in Berlin to witness how close some of our American ruling families are to the Nazi regime. They extended aid to help Fascism occupy the seat of power, and they are helping to keep it there."
William E. Dodd U.S. Ambassador to Germany 1937


"Today Americans would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful. This is especially true if they were told there was an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. It is then that all peoples of the world will plead with world leaders to deliver them from this evil. The one thing every man fears is the unknown. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well being granted to them by their world government."
Henry Kissinger, Speaking at Evian, France, May 21, 1992. Bilderberg meeting.


"A total population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal."
Ted Turner - CNN founder and UN supporter - quoted in the McAlvany Intelligence Advisor, June '96


"Liberal Socialism ... is the immediate task before all rational people. I believe this idea of a planned world-state is one to which all our thought and knowledge is tending ... facts and events conspire in its favour ... It is appearing partially and experimentally at a thousand points."
H.G. Wells, Experiment in Autobiography, 1934, p. 668.


"To achieve world government, it is necessary to remove from the minds of men, their individualism, loyalty to family traditions, national patriotism and religious dogmas."
G. Brock Chisholm, co-founder of the World Federation for Mental Health, former director of UN World Health Organization


"The first task is population control at home. How do we go about it? Many of my colleagues feel that some sort of compulsory birth regulation would be necessary to achieve such control. One plan often mentioned involves the addition of temporary sterilants to water supplies or staple food. Doses of the antidote would be carefully rationed by the government to produce the desired population size."
Paul Ehrlich, The Population Bomb, p.130-131


"If the American people ever allow private banks to control the issue of their money, first by inflation and then by deflation, the banks and corporations that will grow up around them (around the banks), will deprive the people of their property until their children will wake up homeless on the continent their fathers conquered."
Thomas Jefferson (1743-1826), US Founding Father


"All propaganda has to be popular and has to adapt its spiritual level to the perception of the least intelligent of those towards whom it intends to direct itself."
Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf ("My Struggle"), Vol. I


"History records that the money changers have used every form of abuse, intrigue, deceit, and violent means possible to maintain their control over governments by controlling the money and its issuance."
James Madison (1751-1836), Father of the Constitution for the USA, 4th US President


"From the days of Spartacus-Weishaupt to those of Karl Marx and down to Trotsky (Russia), Bela Kun (Hungary), Rosa Luxembourg (Germany), and Emma Goldman (United States), this world-wide conspiracy for the overthrow of civilisation and for the reconstitution of society on the basis of arrested development, of envious malevolence, and impossible equality, has been steadily growing."
Sir Winston Churchill - Illustrated Sunday Herald, February 8, 1920

fresco
03-10-2007, 07:21 PM
What is at stake is more than one small country, it is a big idea - a new world order...to achieve the universal aspirations of mankind...based on shared principles and the rule of law...The illumination of a thousand points of light...The winds of change are with us now.?

-George Bush-

"We know in the not too distant future, a half dozen corporations are going to control the media.
We took this step (merger) to ensure we were one of them"

-Time Warner spokesperson-


"We can see beyond the present shadows of war in the Middle East to a new world order where the strong work together to deter and stop aggression. This was precisely Franklin Roosevelt's and Winston Churchill's vision for peace for the post-war period."

- Richard Gephardt, in the Wall Street Journal (September 1990) -

synergy777
03-10-2007, 07:22 PM
"...those who formally rule take their signals and commands, not from the electorate as a body, but from a small group of men (plus a few women). This group will be called the Establishment. It exists even though that existence is stoutly denied; it is one of the secrets of the American social order. A second secret is the fact that the existence of the Establishment - the ruling class - is not supposed to be discussed. A third secret is implicit in what has been said - that there is really only one political party of any consequence in the United States, one that has been called the 'Property Party.' The Republicans and the Democrats are in fact two branches of the same (secret) party."
Arthur S. Miller, George Washington University law professor, The Secret Constitution and The Need For Constitutional Change, p.3


"The near monopoly of power once enjoyed by sovereign entities is being eroded ... states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies ... Globalization thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker ... The goal should be to redefine sovereignty for the era of globalization, to find a balance between a world of fully sovereign states and an international system of either world government or anarchy."
Richard Haass, President of the Council on Foreign Relations, Feb. 21st, 2006


"...there was no point in seeking to convert the intellectuals. For intellectuals would never be converted and would anyway always yield to the stronger, 'and this will always be the man in the street.' Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology... Hatred and contempt must be directed at particular individuals."
H. Trevor-Roper (ed), The Goebbels Diaries, p. XX, cited in Regan, Geoffrey. 1987. Great Military Disasters. New York: M. Evans and Company


"One-fourth of humanity must be eliminated from the social body. We are in charge of God's selection process for planet earth. He selects, we destroy. We are the riders of the pale horse, Death."
Psychologist Barbara Marx Hubbard - member of Task Force Delta; a United States Army think tank


"There will be, in the next generation or so, a pharmacological method of making people love their servitude, and producing dictatorship without tears, so to speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp for entire societies, so that people will in fact have their liberties taken away from them, but will rather enjoy it, because they will be distracted from any desire to rebel by propaganda or brainwashing, or brainwashing enhanced by pharmacological methods. And this seems to be the final revolution."
Aldous Huxley's lecture to The California Medical School in San Francisco in 1961


"In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill ... All these dangers are caused by human intervention and it is only through changed attitudes and behaviour that they can be overcome. The real enemy, then, is humanity itself."
Alexander King, Bertrand Schneider - founder and secretary, respectively, of the Club of Rome - The First Global Revolution, pp.104-105


"The true equation is 'democracy' = government by world financiers...The main mark of modern governments is that we do not know who governs, de facto any more than de jure. We see the politician and not his backer; still less the backer of the backer; or what is most important of all, the banker of the backer. Enthroned above all, in a manner without parallel in all past, is the veiled prophet of finance, swaying all men living by a sort of magic, and delivering oracles in a language not understanded [sic] of the people."
J.R.R. Tolkien, Candour Magazine, 13 July 1956, p. 12


"The American people should be made aware of the trend toward monopolization of the great public information vehicles and the concentration of more and more power over public opinion in fewer and fewer hands."
Spiro Agnew, U. S. Vice-President, 13 November 1969


"I believe that banking institutions are more dangerous to our liberties than standing armies."
Thomas Jefferson


"Terrorism is the war of the poor. War is the terrorism of the rich."
Leon Uris, Trinity, a Novel of Ireland, 1976

synergy777
03-10-2007, 07:25 PM
"The owners and managers of the press determine which person, which facts, which version of the facts, and which ideas shall reach the public."
Commission On Freedom Of The Press


"The exact contrary of what is generally believed is often the truth."
Jean de la Bruyère


"I think there are 25,000 individuals that have used offices of powers, and they are in our Universities and they are in our Congresses, and they believe in One World Government. And if you believe in One World Government, then you are talking about undermining National Sovereignty and you are talking about setting up something that you could well call a Dictatorship - and those plans are there!"
Congressman Ron Paul at an event near Austin, Texas on August 30th, 2003


"...The age of nations must end... The governments of the nations have decided to order their separate sovereignties into one government to which they surrender their arms."
Preliminary Draft of a World Constitution, 1948, introduced in Congress by Senator Glen Taylor in 1950


"The Trilateralist Commission is international... [and] ...is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateralist Commission represents a skillful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centers of power - political, monetary, intellectual, and ecclesiastical."
Barry Goldwater (1909-1998) US Senator (R-Arizona), in his book "With No Apologies"

synak
03-10-2007, 09:38 PM
"But it became clear as time went on that in Mr. Bush's mind the New World Order was founded on a convergence of goals and interests between the U.S. and the Soviet Union, so strong and permanent that they would work as a team through the U.N. Security Council."
-- excerpt from A. M. Rosenthal, in the New York Times (January 1991)

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the government of the U.S. since the days of Andrew Jackson."
-- U.S. President Franklin D. Roosevelt in a letter written Nov. 21, 1933 to Colonel E. Mandell House.

"The real menace of our Republic is the invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy legs over our cities, states and nation."
-- Mayor (1918-1925) John F. Hylan of New York.

albie
04-10-2007, 12:11 PM
yep those "Disinformationists" hey 'albie' ;)

I guess if they were warning against it, it's odd they should be doing that very thing?


In his article, "Global warming hysteria serves as excuse for world government" Daniel Taylor outlined how the exploitation of the natural phenomenon of "global warming" was a pet project of the Club of Rome and the CFR

"Richard Haass, the current president of the Council on Foreign Relations, stated in his article "State sovereignty must be altered in globalized era," that a system of world government must be created and sovereignty eliminated in order to fight global warming, as well as terrorism. "Moreover, states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies if the international system is to function," says Haass. "Globalization thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves..."

an essential means of achieving global government by consent over conquest, as has long been the ultimate goal of the elite, is by "fanning public hysteria" over climate change,

FURTHER QUOTES

"The Trilateral Commission, one of the three pillars of the New World Order in alliance with Bilderberg and the CFR, met last week in near secrecy to formulate policy on how best they could exploit global warming fearmongering to ratchet up taxes and control over how westerners live their lives.

At the confab, European Chairman of the Trilateral Commission, Bilderberger and chairman of British Petroleum Peter Sutherland (pictured top), gave a speech to his elitist cohorts in which he issued a "Universal battle cry arose for the world to address “global warming” with a single voice."

Echoing this sentiment was General Lord Guthrie, director of N.M. Rothschild & Sons, member of the House of Lords and former chief of the Defense Staff in London, who urged the Trilateral power-brokers to "Address the global climate crisis with a single voice, and impose rules that apply worldwide."

Globalists love global warming! Oil industry kingpins, Bilderbergers and Rothschild minions have all put their weight behind it. This is a fraud conceived, nurtured and promulgated by elite, and to castigate individuals for merely questioning the motives behind climate change fearmongering by accusing them of being mouthpieces for the establishment is a complete reversal of the truth


Yeah, the view OF ANOTHER CONSPIRACY THEORIST.

Real trustworthy.

albie
04-10-2007, 12:12 PM
Tragedy and Hope is based on his analysis and extensive research in the closely-held papers of an Anglo-American elite organization to which he was given access


Quigley was professor of history at the Foreign Service School of Georgetown University, formerly taught at Princeton and at Harvard. He has done research in the archives of France, Italy, and England, and is the author of the widely praised Evolution of Civilizations and the Official Historian for the Council on Forieign relations

Quigley served as a consultant to the U.S. Department of Defense, the U.S. Navy, the Smithsonian Institute, and the United States House Select Committee on Astronautics and Space Exploration, which was important in the establishment of NASA

IT'S HIS VIEW OF EVENTS.

Real trustworthy.

Bias.

albie
04-10-2007, 12:13 PM
Wether this was a warning or not is now beside the point, they are now applying what this quote says so it is relevent to the situation at hand.

Keep the NWO quotes coming;)


YOU ASSUME IT IS HAPPENING.

Real trustworthy.

Bias.

albie
04-10-2007, 12:15 PM
don't let 'albie' mislead you, it's not a warning it's a revealing:

http://us.st11.yimg.com/us.st.yimg.com/I/realityzone_1968_2540121

By Professor Carroll Quigley.


"This is the book that blows the lid off the secret organization created by Cecil Rhodes to quietly gain control over the nations of the world and establish a global government based on the model of collectivism. Professor Quigley (President Clinton’s history professor at Georgetown University) was a trusted supporter of this organization and was given access to its private papers.

When his book was released by a major New York publishing house, it was expected that it would be read only by academics who are interested in the organization’s history and sympathetic to its goals.

However, when it began to be quoted by critics, the publisher withdrew the book from print. This led to the appearance of an underground version that circulated throughout the 1970s and 80s.

Eventually, the publisher was pressured into authorizing this official reprint edition, which is an exact replica of the original. It is a mammoth history interspersed with startling information about the secret organization’s impact on almost every major event of modern history. 1348 pages, hardbound."

The problem is that you guys can't weigh up evidence. You don't even try to see another side and you don't check.

That's why books like this will always be sat on your coffee tables, next a bong and the seventh rewrite of your suicide note.

fresco
04-10-2007, 12:17 PM
IT'S HIS VIEW OF EVENTS.

Real trustworthy.

Bias.

YOU ASSUME IT IS HAPPENING.

Real trustworthy.

Bias.


Stuck record!:p:D

albie
04-10-2007, 12:28 PM
Secretary of State John Hutton said:

"We must redouble our efforts to ensure we reach our goal, focussing on all the drivers of social exclusion that hold people back from achieving their true potential."



I took this quote at random and checked it...

It's about erradicating child poverty.

The level of child poverty in Britain was the worst in Europe. Now child poverty is falling faster than in any other European country. The changes this government have made, such as tax credits to make work pay and our decision to invest in and reform key public services, have helped lift 2.4 million people out of poverty since 1997 – including 800,000 children and a million pensioners.

“Despite these achievements, we have not quite reached our first target on child poverty - but we remain absolutely committed to the goal the Prime Minister set back in 1999 of eradicating child poverty within a generation.

“Now we must redouble our efforts to ensure we reach our goal, focussing on all the drivers of social exclusion that hold people back from achieving their true potential.”

http://www.dwp.gov.uk/mediacentre/pressreleases/2006/mar/cphs015-090306.asp

Yet again I find Dondaz lying to you. Twisting the meaning of a quote to deceive you.

Yet you call ME A disinfo agent.

yet I bet you can't find one example of me lying.

albie
04-10-2007, 12:30 PM
once reminded a group of young lawyers "As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of darkness".

and what has THAT got to do with NWO?

Nothing.

Lying again.

albie
04-10-2007, 12:41 PM
"No one will enter the New World Order unless he or she will make a pledge to worship Lucifer. No one will enter the New Age unless he will take a Luciferian Initiation."

David Spangler, Director of Planetary Initiative, United Nations

This makes it sound as if Spangler works for the UN. He doesn't.

He's just a hippy.

auron
04-10-2007, 12:42 PM
Were you ever hugged as a child Albie?? :confused:

albie
04-10-2007, 12:43 PM
Quigley was one of them
just like Manly P.Hall was one of them
just like Lord Bertrand Russell was.

others like Charles Galton Darwin, Jaques Attali and Jacques Ellul (to name a few) also wrote the books in which they "predicted" the future, and they also happened to work for the same elite as former mentioned people have.

Isn't it ironic that much of what they predicted already happened or is happening now?

Plato worked for the same "guardian class"

YOU ASSUME IT IS HAPPENING. AND YOU ASSUME THE REASONS ARE OF A SINISTER NATURE.

Pure assumption.

Bias.

tinmenace
04-10-2007, 12:46 PM
YOU ASSUME IT IS HAPPENING. AND YOU ASSUME THE REASONS ARE OF A SINISTER NATURE.

Pure assumption.

Bias.

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/emotes/fart.gif

fresco
04-10-2007, 12:46 PM
YOU ASSUME IT IS HAPPENING. AND YOU ASSUME THE REASONS ARE OF A SINSITER NATURE.

Pure assumption.

Bias.

Repetition is a form of brainwashing -> Bias! Bias! Bias!:p

albie
04-10-2007, 12:47 PM
Were you ever hugged as a child Albie?? :confused:

Oh right, you guys can't check your facts because I wasn't hugged?

Seriously arrogant site this.

can't bear to be shown where you go wrong?

Maybe you were spoilt as a child?

synergy777
04-10-2007, 12:47 PM
and you assume its not happening, is denial your form of escape, a coping mechanism, lol

albie
04-10-2007, 12:47 PM
Repetition is a form of brainwashing -> Bias! Bias! Bias!:p

Flimsy attempt to tarnish what I do without actually negating what I do.

Slack.

albie
04-10-2007, 12:49 PM
and you assume its not happening, is denial your form of escape, a coping mechanism, lol

I don't assume anything. I'm agnostic.

You however are blindly biased.

Something you no doubt picked up being brainwashed into sikhism.

albie
04-10-2007, 12:50 PM
Secretary of State John Hutton said:

"We must redouble our efforts to ensure we reach our goal, focussing on all the drivers of social exclusion that hold people back from achieving their true potential."

U.S. Supreme Court Justice William O. Douglas once reminded a group of young lawyers "As nightfall does not come all at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight when everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be most aware of change in the air, however slight, lest we become unwitting victims of darkness".


This man lies to you blatantly and yet I'M the bad guy.

bigus_dickus
04-10-2007, 12:50 PM
and you assume its not happening, is denial your form of escape, a coping mechanism, lol

he doesn't appear to assume anything.

albie
04-10-2007, 12:53 PM
I'm surprised 'albie' hasn't popped in telling you all those quotes are misleading...or maybe his internet shift at Mi5 has ended and he's clocked off already

The problem with you guys is that you take a quote like this..

"The real rulers in Washington are invisible and exercise power from behind the scenes."
Justice Felix Frankfurter (1882-1965) U.S. Supreme Court Justice

And you get all sci-fi about it. Without stopping to think it has another humbler meaning.

You straight off think reptiles.

You are hypnotisers...of the stupid. I am not stupid, sorry.

Doesn't work on me.

albie
04-10-2007, 12:54 PM
he doesn't appear to assume anything.

Until evidence unbalances my agnostic approach I assume nothing and believe nothing.

fresco
04-10-2007, 12:57 PM
The problem with you guys is that you take a quote like this..

"

And you get all sci-fi about it. Without stopping to think it has another humbler meaning.

You straight off think reptiles.

You are hypnotisers...of the stupid. I am not stupid, sorry.

Doesn't work on me.

http://www.fstdt.com/funnyimages/uploads/47.jpg

tinmenace
04-10-2007, 01:01 PM
http://www.fstdt.com/funnyimages/uploads/47.jpg

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/emotes/adnauseam.jpg

fresco
04-10-2007, 01:02 PM
http://www.globalfailure.com/images/emotes/adnauseam.jpg

Lol!:D

synergy777
04-10-2007, 01:03 PM
Until evidence unbalances my agnostic approach I assume nothing and believe nothing.

funny that, your assumption is that you assume nothing, hence you have an assumption, lol

tinmenace
04-10-2007, 01:04 PM
funny that, your assumption is that you assume nothing, hence you have an assumption, lol

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/avatars/applause.gif

bigus_dickus
04-10-2007, 01:06 PM
funny that, your assumption is that you assume nothing, hence you have an assumption, lol

yeah, your assumption is that his assumption is that he has no assumptions and that's just an assumption.

synergy777
04-10-2007, 01:13 PM
which is what is stated.


and you assume its not happening, is denial your form of escape, a coping mechanism, lol

back to this point, now if anyone can prove to me this world government/shadow element is not here, if anyone can prove to me the masonic/luciferic ideals are not here, i will stop with all this nonsense.

bigus_dickus
04-10-2007, 01:18 PM
back to this point, now if anyone can prove to me this world government/shadow element is not here, if anyone can prove to me the masonic/luciferic ideals are not here, i will stop with all this nonsense.

nearly everything is here, so stop the nonsense anyway :)

synergy777
04-10-2007, 01:33 PM
i know i just wanted an argument bro, lol old habits die hard, nevermind got a wonderful plate of fresh pasta in front of me now, all is at ease, lol

vienna
04-10-2007, 02:14 PM
The problem with you guys is that you take a quote like this..

"

And you get all sci-fi about it. Without stopping to think it has another humbler meaning.

You straight off think reptiles.

You are hypnotisers...of the stupid. I am not stupid, sorry.

Doesn't work on me.

'albie' please show me where I've condoned the 'reptile' nonsense .. in fact I can show you more than a handful of posts of mine were I say the opposite

too much wooly thinking on your part, my friend - or is that the idea ;)

tinmenace
04-10-2007, 11:08 PM
'albie' please show me where I've condoned the 'reptile' nonsense .. in fact I can show you more than a handful of posts of mine were I say the opposite

too much wooly thinking on your part, my friend - or is that the idea ;)

He's right, Albie. This is an Alan Watt fan. They don't believe in the existence of things beyond this dimension.

I guess Luminol is like a big mystery....must be magic or something

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/emotes/toothlesssmiley.jpg

vienna
05-10-2007, 09:44 AM
He's right, Albie. This is an Alan Watt fan. They don't believe in the existence of things beyond this dimension.


http://www.globalfailure.com/images/emotes/toothlesssmiley.jpg




Pffft!...and I guess you can tell me where I stand on the over population issue by what size shoes I wear too

people who generalize are idiots ... everyone of them ... doh!

montag
05-10-2007, 10:11 AM
This is a good thread guy's, let's keep the quotes flowing and pull back on the flaming..

I'm going to move the thread to the global government forum and make it a sticky..

Montag..

tinmenace
05-10-2007, 10:58 AM
Pffft!...and I guess you can tell me where I stand on the over population issue by what size shoes I wear too

people who generalize are idiots ... everyone of them ... doh!

Pffft? Does that mean you do or you do not believe in the 4th dimensional reptilian entities?

montag
05-10-2007, 11:04 AM
Tinmenance this thread is about NWO quotes, lets not get sidetracked and start another debate on the existence of reptillians, please..:)

tinmenace
05-10-2007, 11:34 AM
Tinmenance this thread is about NWO quotes, lets not get sidetracked and start another debate on the existence of reptillians, please..:)

Hi Montag,

The last few pages haven't been about NWO quotes, and you'll notice that I didn't bring the reptile thing up first. :)

Nice radar you got there.

Say, you and Phoebe get yours at the same place? ;)

http://www.globalfailure.com/images/radar.jpg

albie
05-10-2007, 11:49 AM
funny that, your assumption is that you assume nothing, hence you have an assumption, lol

I don't assume that I assume nothing.

I just...I assume...there's no...booty bounce...consumption...TB...I...

fresco
05-10-2007, 12:13 PM
"David Rockefeller is the most conspicuous representative today of the ruling class, a multinational fraternity of men who shape the global economy and manage the flow of its capital. Rockefeller was born to it, and he has made the most of it. But what some critics see as a vast international conspiracy, he considers a circumstance of life and justanother day's work... In the world of David Rockefeller it's hard to tell where business ends and politics begins" .
-Bill Moyers-

"All of us will ultimately be judged on the effort we have contributed to building a NEW WORLD ORDER."
-Robert Kennedy, former U.S. Attorney-General, 1967.

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans.."
- Bill Clinton USA Today--3-11-93, page 2a

fresco
05-10-2007, 12:25 PM
"The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It financed
Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Zionism, Socialism. All of these are directed to making the United
States a member of a World Government ..." - AMERICAN MERCURY MAGAZINE, December 1957, pg. 92.

"The statement went on to say that the spiritual teachings of religion must become the foundation for the
new world order and that national sovereignty must be subordinate to the higher moral law of God." -
American Institute of Judaism, excerpt from article in the New York Times (December 1942)

"There are some plain common-sense considerations applicable to all these attempts at world planning.
They can be briefly stated: 1. To talk of blueprints for the future or building a world order is, if properly
understood, suggestive, but it is also dangerous. Societies grow far more truly than they are built. A
constitution for a new world order is never like a blueprint for a skyscraper." - Norman Thomas, in his
book "What Is Our Destiny" (1944)

"The existing order is breaking down at a very rapid rate, and the main uncertainty is whether mankind
can exert a positive role in shaping a new world order or is doomed to await collapse in a passive posture.
We believe a new order will be born no later than early in the next century and that the death throes of
the old and the birth pangs of the new will be a testing time for the human species." -Richard A. Falk, in
an article entitled "Toward a New World Order: Modest Methods and Drastic Visions," in the book "On
the Creation of a Just World Order" (1975)

"... it's Bush's baby, even if he shares its popularization with Gorbachev. Forget the Hitler 'new order'
root; F.D.R. used the phrase earlier." - William Safire, in the New York Times (February 1991)

fresco
05-10-2007, 12:36 PM
"Rarely have Americans lived through so much change, in so many ways, in so short a time. Quietly, but with gathering force, the ground has shifted beneath our feet as we have moved into an Information Age, a global economy, a truly new world." -
President Clinton State of the Union Address 1998

"The sacrifice of personal existence is necessary to secure the preservation of the species." -
Adolph Hitler Mein Kampf 1923

"I've always been a strong U.N. proponent.... Who was that guy who had the round table? Arthur? One for all, all for one." -
Ted Turner CNN Interview with Larry King 1997

"Now, there are more children, from more diverse backgrounds, in our public schools that any time in our history. Their education must provide the knowledge and nurture the creativity that will allow our entire nation to thrive in the new economy." -
President William Clinton State of the Union Address 1999

montag
05-10-2007, 12:50 PM
The collection wouldn't be complete without some famous words from Poppa Bush..

September 11, 1990

"We stand today at a unique and extraordinary moment. The crisis in the Persian Gulf, as grave as it is, also offers a rare opportunity to move toward an historic period of cooperation. Out of these troubled times, our fifth objective -- a new world order -- can emerge: a new era -- freer from the threat of terror, stronger in the pursuit of justice, and more secure in the quest for peace. An era in which the nations of the world, East and West, North and South, can prosper and live in harmony. A hundred generations have searched for this elusive path to peace, while a thousand wars raged across the span of human endeavor. Today that new world is struggling to be born, a world quite different from the one we've known. A world where the rule of law supplants the rule of the jungle. A world in which nations recognize the shared responsibility for freedom and justice. A world where the strong respect the rights of the weak. This is the vision that I shared with President Gorbachev in Helsinki. He and other leaders from Europe, the Gulf, and around the world understand that how we manage this crisis today could shape the future for generations to come."

March 6, 1991

"Now, we can see a new world coming into view. A world in which there is the very real prospect of a new world order. In the words of Winston Churchill, a "world order" in which "the principles of justice and fair play ... protect the weak against the strong ..." A world where the United Nations, freed from cold war stalemate, is poised to fulfill the historic vision of its founders. A world in which freedom and respect for human rights find a home among all nations.

The Gulf war put this new world to its first test, and, my fellow Americans, we passed that test."

:eek:

fresco
05-10-2007, 01:45 PM
"As nightfall does not come at once, neither does oppression. In both instances there is a twilight where everything remains seemingly unchanged. And it is in such twilight that we all must be aware of change in the air--however slight--lest we become unwitting victims of the darkness."
-Justice William O. Douglas

"During my training I was trained in Psychopolitics. This was the art of capturing the minds of a nation through brainwashing and fake mental health."
-The Soviet Art of Brain Washing -A Synthesis of the Russian Textbook on Psychopolitics.

"The American people will never knowingly adopt Socialism. But under the name of "liberalism" they will adopt every fragment of the Socialist program, until one day America will be a Socialist nation, without knowing how it happened."
-Norman Thomas, for many years U.S. Socialist Presidential candidate.

"Hard Road to World Order: ...building the 'house of world order through an end run around national sovereignty, eroding it piece by piece.'"
-Richard Gardner, "Foreign Affairs," April 74 (The Journal of the CFR)

withthespigotonhot
20-10-2007, 05:55 AM
not sure if this one has already been suggested but:
http://jordanmaxwell.com/articles/quotes/quotes6.html (http://jordanmaxwell.com)

ichi wa zen
06-12-2007, 08:38 PM
Wow thanks for all the great quotes from all of the earths "greats".

How much more proof do you need, its SO IN YOUR FACE!

celtic isis
12-12-2007, 11:55 AM
vienna, a kindred spirit, i did a thread like like this on illusions/old icke forum. its another paper trail aspect, well done bro. most of mone will be from this sit, probably the best conspiracy site on the web imho.

Not CIA, but the ICA, lol

Illuminati Conspiracy Archive

http://www.conspiracyarchive.com/

"The owners and managers of the press determine which person, which facts, which version of the facts, and which ideas shall reach the public."
Commission On Freedom Of The Press


"The Trilateral Commission doesn't run the world, the Council on Foreign Relations does that!"
Winston Lord, Assistant Secretary of State, the U. S. State Department


"The urge to save humanity is almost always a false front for the urge to rule."
Henry Louis Mencken (1880-1956), American editor, critic


"We are at present working discreetly with all our might to wrest this mysterious force called sovereignty out of the clutches of the local nation states of the world. All the time we are denying with our lips what we are doing with our hands."
Arnold Toynbee, "The Trend of International Affairs Since the War", International Affairs, November 1931, p. 809


"It was not my intention to doubt that, the Doctrines of the Illuminati, and principles of Jacobinism had not spread in the United States. On the contrary, no one is more truly satisfied of this fact than I am."
President George Washington, October 24, 1798, in a letter to George Washington Snyder


"The very word 'secrecy' is repugnant in a free and open society; and we are as a people inherently and historically opposed to secret societies, to secret oaths and to secret proceedings. We decided long ago that the dangers of excessive and unwarranted concealment of pertinent facts far outweighed the dangers which are cited to justify it."
John F. Kennedy in a speech before the American Newspaper Publishers Association (27 April 1961)


"We shall have a World government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World government will be achieved by conquest or consent."
James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, before the U.S. Senate


"It's been demonstrated that well within two minutes of watching television, most people enter a hypnotic alpha state bordering on theta. Viewers in this state are no longer able to critically evaluate, discern, or pass judgement from their own moral database on the material being viewed. The information just flows, unimpeded, into their subconscious year in and year out."
Jeff Rense, talk-radio host


ooh yes i love that site too! :) brill quotes there!

optimus pigpot
13-12-2007, 03:51 AM
Not got the time perhaps!!

dmessick
23-01-2008, 06:19 PM
It is right in front of our faces because most are ignorant of what we are looking at. The NWO's symbols are everywhere and I mean everywhere and that is the all the proof any of us should need. They soon will have no power over us in any form. Just keep in the know and it will show. :confused: Where did that come from; that was a sweet one liner. ;)

cheeney1
09-02-2008, 11:39 AM
One World One Vision......Freddy Mercurry Just Look At The Lyrics And Listen To The Song By Queen

One Man One Goal One Mission
One Heart One Soul Just One Solution
One Flash of light Yeah One God One Vision
One Flesh One Bone
One True Religion
One Voice One Hope
wowowo Gimme One Vision
No Wrong No Right
Theres No Black No White
No Blood No Stain
all we need is One World wide Religion
one voice one hope
One real Decision
wowowowo Gimme One Vision
i had a dream,
when i was young
a dream of sweet union
but cold winds blow
and dark rains fall
and in my heart it shows
look what they have done to my dream
so give me your hands
give me me your heart
theres only one direction
one world one nation
yeah one vision
no hate no fight
just excitation
all through the night
its a celebration wowowowo yeah
one flesh one bone
one true religion
one voice one hope
one real decision
gimme one night
gimme one hope
one man one man
one bar one night
one day hey hey
just gimme gimme gimme one vision..........:rolleyes:

synergy777
15-03-2008, 01:39 AM
http://khanverse.blogspot.com/2008/02/rothschild-illuminati-banking-weishaupt.html

great video on the nwo/rothschild.

maya12212012
03-04-2008, 05:21 PM
There's a lot of great quotes in this thread that I'm gonna use on my World Truths of the Mayan 5th Night web page. Thanks to everyone who contributed... excellent research!!!

synergy777
14-05-2008, 03:26 PM
http://www. conspiracyarchive. com/

"We shall have a World government, whether or not we like it. The only question is whether World government will be achieved by conquest or consent."

James Paul Warburg, February 17, 1950, before the U.S.Senate


"I think there are 25,000 individuals that have used offices of powers, and they are in our Universities and they are in our Congresses, and they believe in One World Government.

And if you believe in One World Government, then you are talking about undermining National Sovereignty and you are talking about setting up something that you could well call a Dictatorship - and those plans are there!"

Congressman Ron Paul at an event near Austin, Texas on August 30th, 2003


"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of somebody, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."

Woodrow Wilson, The New Freedom, 1913


"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."

Benjamin Disraeli, 1844


"All propaganda has to be popular and has to adapt its spiritual level to the perception of the least intelligent of those towards whom it intends to direct itself."

Adolf Hitler, Mein Kampf ("My Struggle"), Vol.I


"...there was no point in seeking to convert the intellectuals. For intellectuals would never be converted and would anyway always yield to the stronger, 'and this will always be the man in the street.' Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology... Hatred and contempt must be directed at particular individuals."

H. Trevor-Roper (ed), The Goebbels Diaries, p. XX, cited in Regan, Geoffrey. 1987. Great Military Disasters. New York: M.Evans and Company


"Permit me to issue and control the money of a nation, and I care not who makes its laws."

Amschel Mayer Rothschild, 1773-1855


"The ruling class has the schools and press under its thumb. This enables it to sway the emotions of the masses."

Albert Einstein

eyepod
14-05-2008, 03:54 PM
Some more sorry if posted before...
"We are grateful to the Washington Post, the New York Times, Time magazine and other great publications whose directors have attended our meetings and respected the promises of discretion for almost forty years. It would have been impossible for us to develop our plan for the world if we had been subject to the bright lights of publicity during those years. But, the world is now more sophisticated and prepared to march towards a world-government. The supranational sovereignty of an intellectual elite and world bankers is surely preferable to the National auto determination practiced in past centuries"
--David Rockefeller in an address to a Trilateral Commission or Bilderburg meeting in June of 1991(Source Unconfirmed, but quote NOT refuted)

"From the days of [Adam] "Sparticus" Weishaupt (who created the Illuminati), Karl Marx, Trotski, Belacoon, Rosa Luxenberg and Ema Goldman, this world conspiracy has been steadily growing. This conspiracy played a definite recognizable role in the French Revolution. It has been the mainspring of every subversive movement during the 19th century. And now at last, this band of extraordinary personalities from the under-world of the great cities of Europe and America have gripped the Russian people by the hair of their head and have become the undisputed masters of that enormous empire."
--Winston Churchill to the London press in 1922.

"There is no such thing in America as an independent press unless it is in the country towns. You know it, and I know it. There is not one of you who dare express an honest opinion. If you express it you know beforehand that it would never appear in print. I am paid... for keeping my honest opinions out of the paper I am connected with. Others of you are paid similar salaries for doing similar things....

The business of the New York journalist is to distort the truth, to lie outright, to pervert, to vilify, to fawn at the feet of Mammon, and sell his country and race for his daily bread, or for what is about the same thing, his salary. You know this, and I know it; and what foolery to be toasting an 'independent press.' We are tools, and the vassals of rich men behind the scenes. We are jumping-jacks. They pull the strings and we dance. Our time, our talents, our lives, our possibilities, all are the property of other men. We are intellectual prostitutes."
--John Swinton Chief Editorial Writer of the New York Times circa 1953, when asked to toast an 'Independent Press' in a gathering at the National Press Club

"The Council on Foreign Relations (CFR) is the American Branch of a society which originated in England ... (and) ... believes national boundaries should be obliterated and one-world rule
established."
-- Professor of History Carroll Quigley(Bill Clinton's Mentor), Georgetown University, in his book "Tragedy and Hope".

"Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture, are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they had better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."
--Woodrow Wilson

"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States. The Trilateral Commission represents a skilful, coordinated effort to seize control and consolidate the four centres of power--Political, Monetary, Intellectual, and Ecclesiastical."
--U.S. Senator Barry Goldwater from his 1964 book "No Apologies"

"The invisible Money Power is working to control and enslave mankind. It financed Communism, Fascism, Marxism, Zionism, Socialism. All of these are directed to making the United States a member of a World Government ..."
-- AMERICAN MERCURY MAGAZINE, December 1957, pg. 92.

"The interests behind the Bush Administration, such as the CFR, The Trilateral Commission - founded by Zbigniew Brzezinski for David Rockefeller - and the Bilderberg Group, have prepared for and are now moving to implement open world dictatorship within the next five years. They are not fighting against terrorists. They are fighting against citizens."
--Dr. Johannes B. Koeppl, Ph.D. Former German Defense Ministry Official and Advisor to former NATO Secretary General Manfred Werner

"The governments of the present day have to deal not merely with other governments, with emperors, kings and ministers, but also with the secret societies which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and can at the last moment upset all the governments' plans.”
--British Prime Minister Benjamin Disraeli, 1876

"The powers of financial capitalism had another far reaching aim, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole. This system was to be controlled in a feudalist fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements, arrived at in frequent private meetings and conferences. The apex of the system was the Bank for International Settlements in Basle, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the worlds' central banks which were themselves private corporations. The growth of financial capitalism made possible a centralization of world economic control and use of this power for the direct benefit of financiers and the indirect injury of all other economic groups."
--Tragedy and Hope: A History of The World in Our Time (Macmillan Company, 1966, ) Professor Carroll Quigley of Georgetown University, (mentor to and highly esteemed by his former student, Bill Clinton.)

garyicke
31-05-2008, 11:00 PM
i've skipped to the end but the first quote made me look up

- “The First Global Revolution” (1991) published by the Club of Rome. Members of the Club of Rome include: Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Bill Gates, George Soros and author of the Kyoto Protocols Maurice Strong.

p75 on google books version has the :-

http://books.google.co.uk/books?id=8RNKHGbzUuAC&pg=PA75&vq=idea+that+pollution&dq=The+First+Global+Revolution&source=gbs_search_s&sig=RtamJ0j1VJhVLPpR0y4GVNfk1Vk

to be fair i haven't read the rest so they could be making a valid point but WE doubt it :)

celtic isis
16-09-2008, 09:45 PM
http://img67.imageshack.us/my.php?image=barbbaw2.jpg

http://img67.imageshack.us/img67/2372/barbbaw2.jpg

kasalt
25-09-2008, 10:19 PM
Link to Youtube video

NWO From The Mouths of The Elite - YouTube

Woodrow Wilson, U.S. President, 1913:

"Since I entered politics, I have chiefly had men's views confided to me privately. Some of the biggest men in the United States, in the field of commerce and manufacture are afraid of something. They know that there is a power somewhere so organized, so subtle, so watchful, so interlocked, so complete, so pervasive, that they better not speak above their breath when they speak in condemnation of it."

"I have unwittingly ruined my country. A great industrial nation is controlled by its system of credit. Our system of credit is concentrated in the hands of a few men."

"We have come to be one of the worst ruled, one of the most completely controlled and dominated governments in the world...no longer a government of free opinion, no longer a government by conviction and vote of the majority, but a government by the opinion and duress of small groups of dominant men."


Henry Ford, Industrial giant:

"It is well enough that people of the nation do not understand our banking and monetary system, for if they did, I believe there would be a revolution before tomorrow morning."

"The one aim of these financiers is world control by the creation of inextinguishable debts."


John F. Hylan, Mayor of New York (1918-1925), 1922:

"The real menace of our republic is this invisible government which like a giant octopus sprawls its slimy length over city, state and nation. Like the octopus of real life, it operates under cover of a self created screen. At the head of this octopus are the Rockefeller Standard Oil interests and a small group of powerful banking houses generally referred to as international bankers. The little coterie of powerful international bankers virtually run the United States government for their own selfish purposes. They practically control both political parties."


Franklin D. Roosevelt, U.S. President, 1933:

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the large centers has owned the Government ever since the days of Andrew Jackson."


Curtis Dall, President Franklin D. Roosevelt's Son-in-law, quoted from his book FDR: My Exploited Father-in-Law:

"For a long time I felt that FDR had developed many thoughts and ideas that were his own to benefit this country, the United States. But he didn't. Most of his thoughts were carefully manufactured for him in advance by the Council on Foreign Relations--One World Money Group."

"The United Nations is but a long range, international banking apparatus clearly set up for financial and economic profit by a small group of powerful One-World revolutionaries, hungry for profit and power. The One-World government leaders and their ever close bankers have now acquired full control of the money and credit machinery of the U.S. via the creation of the privately owned Federal Reserve bank."


William Fulbright, U.S. Senator, 1963:

"The case for government by elites is irrefutable."


Barry Goldwater, U.S. Senator, 1964:

"The Trilateral Commission is intended to be the vehicle for multinational consolidation of the commercial and banking interests by seizing control of the political government of the United States...and they will rule the future."


Strobe Talbott, U.S. Deputy Sec. of State, 1992:

"In the next century, nations as we know it will be obsolete; all states will recognize a single, global authority. National sovereignty wasn't such a great idea after all."


Arthur Schlesinger, U.S. Historian, 1995:

"We are not going to achieve a new world order without paying for it in blood as well as words and money."

kasalt
08-10-2008, 05:13 PM
"The argument that the two parties should represent opposed ideals and policies, one, perhaps, of the Right and the other of the Left, is a foolish idea acceptable only to doctrinaire and academic thinkers. Instead, the two parties should be almost identical, so that the American people can 'throw the rascals out' at any election without leading to any profound or extensive shifts in policy." -- Carroll Quigley, Tragedy and Hope: A History of the World in our Time

"Not only is there not a 'dime’s worth of difference' between the Democratic and Republican Parties when it comes to just about anything, there is certainly no difference at all when it comes to increased federal spending, the expansion of government power, the destruction of liberty, and interventionism in general, both at home and abroad." -- Laurence M. Vance, Not a Dime’s Worth of Difference (http://www.lewrockwell.com/vance/vance118.html)

celtic isis
09-10-2008, 12:12 AM
some more:

In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill.
- Aurelio Pecci, founder of the CLUB OF ROME 1991

If the American people had ever known the truth about what we Bushes have done to this nation, we would be chased down the street and lynched.
- President Bush Senior 1992

If one values human life, one cannot value its destroyers.
-Ayn Rand

We must all face the fact that our world leaders are certifiable insane - or worse.
-William S Burroughs

People yield themselves with perfect docility to our moulding hands.
- Rockefeller

I've a really good one from robin cook i'll put up another time.

celtic isis
18-10-2008, 11:33 PM
i love this one:

"THE TRUTH is, there is NO Islamic army or terrorist group called Al Qaida. And any informed intelligence officer knows this. But there IS a propaganda campaign to make the public believe in the presence of an indentifed entity...The country behind this propaganda is the US."



Robin Cook - Former British Foreign Secretary - RIP

onourwayto2012
19-10-2008, 02:17 AM
Arguments must therefore be crude, clear and forcible, and appeal to emotions and instincts, not the intellect. Truth was unimportant and entirely subordinate to tactics and psychology... Hatred and contempt must be directed at particular individuals."

Holy crap! this sounds just like Bush after 9/11

kasalt
20-10-2008, 04:54 PM
Aleister Crowley, The Book of the Law:
"Let my servants be few and secret: they shall rule the many and the known."

Felix Frankfurter, U.S. Supreme Court Justice:
"The real rulers in Washington are invisible, and exercise power from behind the scenes."

Benjamin Disraeli, first Prime Minister of England, in a novel he published in 1844 called Coningsby:
"The world is governed by very different personages from what is imagined by those who are not behind the scenes."

Benjamin Disraeli, 1876:
"The governments of the present day have to deal not merely with other governments, with emperors, kings and ministers, but also with the secret societies which have everywhere their unscrupulous agents, and can at the last moment upset all the governments' plans. "

President Theodore Roosevelt, April 19, 1906:
"Behind the ostensible government sits enthroned an invisible government owing no allegiance and acknowledging no responsibility to the people."

Manly P. Hall 33°, Lectures on Ancient Philosophy and Introduction to the Study and Application of Rational Procedure, p. 397:
“Freemasonry is a fraternity within a fraternity — an outer organization concealing an inner brotherhood of the elect. Before it is possible to intelligently discuss the origin of the Craft, it is necessary, therefore, to establish the existence of these two separate yet interdependent orders, the one visible and the other invisible...The invisible society is a secret and most august fraternity whose members are dedicated to the service of a mysterious Arcanum Arcanorum. Those Brethren who have essayed to write the history of their Craft have not included in their disquisitions the story of that truly secret inner society which is to the body Freemasonic what the heart is to the body human.”

Dr. Carroll Quigley, Professor of International Relations, Georgetown University Foreign Service School, Washington, D.C., author of the epic "Tragedy and Hope", advocate of one-world government and personal mentor of President William Clinton:
"The CFR [Council On Foreign Relations, New York City] is the American Branch of a society which originated in England and believes national directives should be obliterated and one-world rule established. I know of the operations of this network because I have studied it for twenty years, and was permitted in the early 1960's to examine its papers and secret records."

banoyes
28-11-2008, 12:39 AM
The Climate Change Hoax

“It would seem that men and women need a common motivation, namely a common adversary, to organize and act together in the vacuum such as motivation seemed to have ceased to exist or have yet to be found. The need for enemies seems to be a common historical factor…

Bring the divided nation together to face an outside enemy, either a real one or else one invented for the purpose…

Democracy will be made to seem responsible for the lagging economy, the scarcity and uncertainties. The very concept of democracy could then be brought into question and allow for the seizure of power by extremists of one brand or the other…

In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. The real enemy [of the elites and their minions] then is humanity itself.”

- “The First Global Revolution” (1991) published by the Club of Rome. Members of the Club of Rome include: Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Bill Gates, George Soros and author of the Kyoto Protocols Maurice Strong.




The Purpose of The Banking System ;

"The Power of financial capitalism had [a] far reaching plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.
This system was to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences.

The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks, which were themselves private corporations.

Each central bank sought to dominate its government by its ability to control treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence co-operative politicians by subsequent rewards in the business world."

Carrol Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, 1966 - Bill Clinton's mentor and Georgetown University professor
.
I am reading "Tragedy and Hope right now
Curiously the word Freemason does not appear in the index
I figure this was part of the instructions from the Elite.
It is such an obvious ommission

lybertha
12-12-2008, 10:15 AM
In relation to Al Qaeda look at this link:

http://worldreports.org/news/183_washington_exposed_as_secretly_financing_al_qa eda?sent=1

bensonz
28-12-2008, 02:59 PM
[QUOTE=vienna;145310]The Climate Change Hoax

“It would seem that men and women need a common motivation, namely a common adversary, to organize and act together in the vacuum such as motivation seemed to have ceased to exist or have yet to be found. The need for enemies seems to be a common historical factor…

Bring the divided nation together to face an outside enemy, either a real one or else one invented for the purpose…

Democracy will be made to seem responsible for the lagging economy, the scarcity and uncertainties. The very concept of democracy could then be brought into question and allow for the seizure of power by extremists of one brand or the other…

In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. The real enemy [of the elites and their minions] then is humanity itself.”

- “The First Global Revolution” (1991) published by the Club of Rome. Members of the Club of Rome include: Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Bill Gates, George Soros and author of the Kyoto Protocols Maurice Strong.




The Purpose of The Banking System ;

"The Power of financial capitalism had [a] far reaching plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.
This system was to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences.

The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks, which were themselves private corporations.

Each central bank sought to dominate its government by its ability to control treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence co-operative politicians by subsequent rewards in the business world."

Carrol Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, 1966 - Bill Clinton's mentor and Georgetown University professor



Population Control. Earth Worship + mass human sacrifice = Climate change

Hitler was a demon possessed occultist fullfilling a mass illuminati occultic human sacrifice to their gods on a grand scale. A Black Mass.

white horse
28-02-2009, 03:59 PM
"The owners and managers of the press determine which person, which facts, which version of the facts, and which ideas shall reach the public."
Commission On Freedom Of The Press


"It's been demonstrated that well within two minutes of watching television, most people enter a hypnotic alpha state bordering on theta. Viewers in this state are no longer able to critically evaluate, discern, or pass judgement from their own moral database on the material being viewed. The information just flows, unimpeded, into their subconscious year in and year out."
Jeff Rense, talk-radio host

This is probably the most important thing, because it is TV that facilitates them riding roughshod over us.

It is not just the content that is bleated out to us, but the physical properties of the device itself.

The most dangerous and successful psyops weapon ever devised and we gladly place it in the centre of our homes! :eek:

flyermay
23-03-2009, 12:03 AM
http://i705.photobucket.com/albums/ww54/flyermay/thegamecontinuescopy.jpg
Feel free to download and use

cafetimes1991
24-04-2009, 08:24 PM
Excellent thread.

kasalt
24-04-2009, 09:12 PM
Zbigniew Brzezinski, quoted from his book, Between Two Ages: America's Role in the Technetronic Era:
"The technetronic era involves the gradual appearance of a more controlled society. Such a society would be dominated by an elite, unrestrained by traditional values. Soon it will be possible to assert almost continuous surveillance over every citizen and maintain up-to-date complete files containing even the most personal information about the citizen. These files will be subject to instantaneous retrieval by the authorities."

kasalt
12-05-2009, 11:58 PM
Trailer for "The New World Order" - YouTube

kasalt
14-05-2009, 09:23 PM
Thomas Jefferson:
"The eyes of our citizens are not sufficiently open to the true cause of our distress. They ascribe them to everything but their true cause: the banking system... a system which if it could do good in any form is yet so certain of leading to abuse as to be utterly incompatible with the public safety and prosperity."
The Rothschild brothers of London writing to associates in New York, 1863, laying the groundwork for the eventual passage of their catastrophic Federal Reserve Act on December 23, 1913:
"The few who understand the system will either be so interested in its profits or be so dependent upon its favours that there will be no opposition from that class, while on the other hand, the great body of people, mentally incapable of comprehending the tremendous advantage that capital derives from the system, will bear its burdens without complaint, and perhaps without even suspecting that the system is inimical to their interests."
Source: http://www.rapidtrends.com/quotes-from-international-bankers-and-fathers-of-america/ (http://www.masterjules.net/wisdomelders.htm)

lessgov2007
23-05-2009, 11:59 AM
Okay the following is by no means proof of a New World Order conspiracy, however for those who have already done their homework it might shed a little light on the motivations behind the creation of a one world empire.
__________________________________________________ _______________

The following is quoted from pages 23 and 24 of

FUNDAMENTAL LAWS
A Report of the 68th Convocation of the Rose Cross Order
Published by THE PHILOSOPHICAL PUBLISHING CO.
Allentown, Pa
For the Members of the Rose Cross Order
1916

INTRODUCTION TO THE GREAT SEAL

It is rather strange and an unknown thing for one to write an introduction to a single chapter appearing in a book, but the conditions are so unusual as to warrant it.

More than a year ago, Grace K. Morey, the author of the article, "The Great Seal of the United States and It's Mystical Significance," prepared a sketch for a short primer of the Illuminati teachings, and in this sketch, as will be shown by the drawings, it was brought out that man is not only a threefold being, but that he is actually a four-fold being as well. In short, that when he has succeeded in reaching Soul Illumination, he is completed Pyramid or true Triangle.

If the student will give serious study to article on the Seal of the United States, he will find that on the reverse side of the seal which is as yet uncut, there is to be found the Pyramid, but with the capstone as yet not placed, and thus he will see that the Philosophy upon which these United States are founded as is clearly indicated by our four fold philosophy, by the drawings representing our Philosophy, and by the drawings of the reverse side of the United States seal.

And thus it would appear that the Unseen Hierarchies which shaped the foundation of the great Republic which must some day rule the world, are the same Hierarchies which gave us the Soul Science Philosophy as taught by the Illuminati.

And now let us look into the future, not far, but just beyond the line. We find that scholars condemn the design of the reverse side of the United States Seal, that it has never been cut but has remained hidden as though it were something to be ashamed of.

However, though this appears the truth, it is not the truth. The reason why it has never been cut is because the time is not yet as the cap-stone has not yet been set.

And what is this cap-stone? My reader, prepare for a shock.

When Atlantis ruled the word, that which is now America was connected with Egypt by what is now Mexico, and in Mexico, in the territory of Yucatan, there is a Pyramid in which the Fire Philosophers worshiped God as Divine Fire and Life in like manner as did the Initiates of Egypt, for the two were then one.

America is not complete, and will not be complete, cannot be complete, until Mexico is again part of America as she was in the long ago, and when Mexico is once again a part of the United States, then will the cap-stone have been set on the Pyramid and the reverse side of the United States seal will be cut.

Thus you will see that the Soul Science Primer with its drawings, is but the beginning of the article on "Body, Mind, Spirit and Soul" is the finale thereof.

May it not be long until the Holy Pyramid shall be completed and may it be completed without the shedding of blood.

Lovingly given,
R. SWINBURNE CLYMER.
"Beverly Hall," Quakertown, Pa., July 6th, 1916
__________________________________________________ ________________

Did it ever occur to anyone that perhaps America when it was a Republic, before the people were convinced it was a Democracy, that in fact the secret destiny of America was to create a world of sovereign nation states forming a global empire? Perhaps the founders and the philosophies behind their motivations were not so ill intent?

I have come to the conclusion from my own studies that America when it was young, established as a Republic with a Constitution based on the principle that all men are created equal with specific creator endowed natural birth rights, that America the Republic was to be perpetual, to be the New World Order. This of course was seen as a direct threat against the British/Roman Empire, and if you look through out American/Christian history you will find that indeed British and Vatican agents have labored to usurp the destiny of America and transform it into an engine for enslaving the world, to re-create the old world order, the old world British/Roman Empire yet again.
__________________________________________________ ______________________

The following is quoted from:

FUNDAMENTAL LAWS

A Report of the 68th Convocation of the Rose Cross Order

Page 16

This is of the utmost importance just as this time, when we find that no less than five different Orders, calling themselves Rosicrucian, have sprung up within the last few years, and not one of these five has a shred of the true Rosicrucian teachings.

Some of them are deliberate frauds, claiming to be what they are not, while others are clearly under the guidance of members of the Black Brotherhood and their doctrines are absolutely destructive in that they uphold practices which are too abominable to even mention.

One of these orders, claiming to be Rosicrucian, admits that it has no teachings, that it is all ceremonies, when history tells us clearly that the Ross Cross Order was founded with the idea of leading men to their higher selves. In other words, while the Rose Cross has it's ceremonial Initiation, it's foundation is upon a training school for souls and its ceremonies are but secondary.

The lecture on the Second Coming of the Christ is also of great importance at a time when many false Christs are put forth for the people to kneel down before, when in fact, most of these are not only false Christs, but are of the lower grade of humanity in as far as either Evolution or Development is concerned. Mr. Witt clearly points out what that Christ is and how He must come to all of us individually if he is to come at all.
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I think this quote also supports that which is written in Fundamental Laws, Order of the Rose & Cross 68th Convocation.

“I have been convinced that we, as an Order, have come under the power of some very evil occult Order, profoundly versed in science, both occult and otherwise, though not infallible, their methods being black magic, that is to say, electro-magnetic power, hypnotism, and powerful suggestion. We are convinced that the Order is being controlled by some Sun Order, after the nature of the Illuminati, if not by that Order itself. We see our edifice...crumbling and covering the ground with ruins, we see the destruction that our hands no longer arrest...a great sect arose, which taking for its motto the good and the happiness of man, worked in the darkness of the conspiracy to make the happiness of humanity a prey for itself. This sect is known to everyone, its brothers are known no less than its name. It is they who have undermined the foundations of the Order to the point of complete overthrow; it is by them that all humanity has been poisoned and led astray for several generations...They began by casting odium on religion...Their masters had nothing less in view than the thrones of the earth, and the governments of the nations was to be directed by their nocturnal clubs...the misuse of our order...has produced all the political and moral troubles with which the world is filled today...we must from this moment dissolve the whole Order” - Duke of Brunswick, Grand Master of German Freemasonry, 1794
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It was prior to the American Civil War that the British/Roman Empire really began digging in deep within the American culture, fomenting the conditions of dissolution within the United States. It was the British Monarchy who exported their influence over the Southern States establishing the network and infrastructure to create the slave plantation system, which the Monarchy supplied slaves too that were traded for in Africa.

There's always more to the story...

“This war would never have been possible without the sinister influence of the Jesuits. We owe it to Popery that we now see our land reddened with the blood of her noblest sons. Though there were great differences of opinion between the South and North, on the question of slavery, neither Jeff Davis nor any one of the leading men of the Confederacy would have dared to attack the North, had they not relied on the promise of the Jesuits, that, under the mask of Democracy, the money and the arms of the Roman Catholics, even the arms of France, were at their disposal if they would attack us.” -Abraham Lincoln, 1864

“It is my opinion that if the liberties of this country—the United States of America—are destroyed, it will be by the subtlety of the Roman Catholic Jesuit priests, for they are the most crafty, dangerous enemies to civil and religious liberty. They have instigated most of the wars of Europe.” General Lafayette, 1799 Aide to General Washington Romanism: A Menace to the Nation

“The clergy converted the simple teachings of Jesus into an engine for enslaving the world and adulterated by artificial constructions into a contrivance to filch wealth and power to themselves...these clergy, in fact, constitute the real Anti-Christ.” - Thomas Jefferson
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JOHN 10:33 "The Jews answered him, saying, For a good work we stone thee not; but for blasphemy; and because that thou, being a man, makest thyself God."

"The Pope is not only the representative of Jesus Christ Himself, he is Jesus Christ Himself, hidden under a veil of flesh." -Catholic National July, 1895

"We hold upon this Earth the place of God Almighty." -Pope Leo XIII, in an Encyclical letter, dated June 20, 1894

Vicar of Christ (Latin Vicarius Christi) has been used since Pope Gelasius I (served 492 - 496), alongside a few rarer 'vicarial' titles, as one of the titles of the Bishop of Rome —the Pope— as head of the Universal Church (see Papal primacy). A vicar is one who represents another and acts as a steward, administering the position held in lieu of the true sovereign. In the Catechism of the Catholic Church, in addition to the pope, each bishop is referred to as the "Christ's Vicar"(§1560) to their diocese, and the conscience is called "the aboriginal Vicar of Christ."(§1778) Source Wiki

Vicar Vic"ar (v[i^]k"[~e]r), n. [OE. vicar, viker, vicair, F.
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Anti An"ti [Gr. 'anti` against. See Ante.]
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2 PETER 1:20 "Knowing this first, that no prophecy of the scripture is of any private interpretation."

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REVELATION 17:4 "And the woman was arrayed in purple and scarlet color, and decked with gold and precious stones and pearls, having a golden cup in her hand full and abominations of filthiness of her fornication."
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I'd have to say, I do not know of any one quote that can prove a conspiracy to establish a new world order. However, I think with study and reason one can clearly understand that the world order we are headed towards today is nothing new, and surely will be born of evil.

"National Socialism will use it's own revolution for establishing a New World Order" -Adolf Hitler

http://lessgov2007.blogspot.com/

kasalt
24-05-2009, 02:56 PM
Jean Monnet - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia, Chief architect of European Unity, 30 April 1952:
“Europe's nations should be guided towards the superstate without their people understanding what is happening. This can be accomplished by successive steps, each disguised as having an economic purpose, but which will irreversibly lead to federation.”

Gideon Rachman, Financial Times (http://www.ft.com/cms/s/0/7a03e5b6-c541-11dd-b516-000077b07658.html?nclick_check=1), December 8 2008:
“So, it seems, everything is in place. For the first time since homo sapiens began to doodle on cave walls, there is an argument, an opportunity and a means to make serious steps towards a world government.”

David Icke:
“For you to believe that there is no major world conspiracy which involves a small number of people manipulating humanity through a hierarchical structure of control toward a New World Order, shows you have, in actual fact, not looked genuinely into the abundance of well-researched information on world conspiracy to see if there is one!”

jkdt0077
26-06-2009, 12:18 PM
Where do these quotes come from?

I tried researching the Prince Philip quote:
If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.

I was trying to find out where and when he said this but when you search in Google all that comes up is 10 million sites like this with the quote simply bandied around, but with no source.

I was just wondering if anybody has the full message this quote was part of, to get some kind of context etc..

flyermay
26-06-2009, 12:47 PM
Where do these quotes come from?

I tried researching the Prince Philip quote:
If I were reincarnated, I would wish to be returned to Earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels.

I was trying to find out where and when he said this but when you search in Google all that comes up is 10 million sites like this with the quote simply bandied around, but with no source.

I was just wondering if anybody has the full message this quote was part of, to get some kind of context etc..

Source: 'Are You Ready For Our New Age Future?', Insiders Report, American Policy Center, December 1995.

jkdt0077
26-06-2009, 12:56 PM
Source: 'Are You Ready For Our New Age Future?', Insiders Report, American Policy Center, December 1995.

Ok - what is this though?
If I search for "Are You Ready for Our New Age Future?" or "Insiders Report December 1995" I simply get returned the same 10 million conspiracy sites with the quote on. What exactly is this source and where can I view evidence of the quote?

flyermay
26-06-2009, 01:12 PM
Ok - what is this though?
If I search for "Are You Ready for Our New Age Future?" or "Insiders Report December 1995" I simply get returned the same 10 million conspiracy sites with the quote on. What exactly is this source and where can I view evidence of the quote?

Source:
Article: 'Are You Ready For Our New Age Future?'
Publication: Insiders report
Publisher: American Policy Center
Date: December 1995

You have to realise that not every single publication has been digitalised and uploaded to the internet, but you should be able to get a copy through the publisher.

jkdt0077
26-06-2009, 03:03 PM
Source:
Article: 'Are You Ready For Our New Age Future?'
Publication: Insiders report
Publisher: American Policy Center
Date: December 1995

You have to realise that not every single publication has been digitalised and uploaded to the internet, but you should be able to get a copy through the publisher.

Ok thanks - I guess what I'm asking is has anybody on this forum actually seen (or possess) an actual hard copy of this publication. I have a hard time believing quotes like this especially when I have no verifiable proof to show it actually was said and in the supposed context. I would love to see a scan or something showing the actual publication.

kasalt
26-06-2009, 03:14 PM
Would you accept this as a valid source?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/jun/21/quotes-by-prince-philip

jkdt0077
26-06-2009, 03:18 PM
Would you accept this as a valid source?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/jun/21/quotes-by-prince-philip

Possibly, although it's interesting you bring that site to my attention as:
a) the quote is different
and
b) the date is different

Therefore, no I don't really accept that as a valid source. :p

kasalt
26-06-2009, 03:22 PM
Possibly, although it's interesting you bring that site to my attention as:
a) the quote is different
and
b) the date is different

Therefore, no I don't really accept that as a valid source. :p

Suffice to say, I think it is a valid quote:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh

jkdt0077
26-06-2009, 03:28 PM
Suffice to say, I think it is a valid quote:

http://en.wikiquote.org/wiki/Prince_Philip,_Duke_of_Edinburgh

You're making your argument even worse. That gives yet another source and date for the quote:
Foreword to Fleur Cowles, If I Were an Animal (William Morrow, publisher, 1987, ISBN 9780688061500)

So, which is real? You're all set to believe it's a real quote (backing up the idea of the NWO) yet seem to have absolutely no idea when, where or in what context it was said.

kasalt
26-06-2009, 03:33 PM
The date given is not the date of Prince Philip's quote, it is the publication date of the source text quoting Prince Philip.

You bring up a good point though, namely that there are far too many alleged quotes floating around on the internet with insufficient referencing of sources--or even no attempt to cite sources at all.

I always make my best effort to cite sources for quotes, and the only time I go with a quote for which I cannot find adequate sourcing is when I've been personally convinced that it is valid.

I don't think I've been wrong once yet.

jkdt0077
26-06-2009, 03:38 PM
The date given is not the date of Prince Philip's quote, it is the publication date of the source text quoting Prince Philip.

I've just found the original foreword from the book where the quote originated.

"If I Were An Animal?
United Kingdom: Robin Clark Ltd., 1986

"I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated in an animal whose
species had been so reduced in numbers that it was in danger of extinction. What
would be its feelings toward the human species whose population explosion had
denied it somewhere to exist....I must confess that I am tempted to ask for
reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus."

Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh's, foreword to Fleur Cowles' book, If I Were An Animal, United Kingdom: Robin Clark Ltd., 1986.

It is indeed written in a somewhat different context than the conspiracy sites would have us believe - not to mention the words being completely different from those that are splashed across hundreds of thousand of those sites.
It's so easy to get pulled in by these misquotations. It seems not enough people on this site and others are willing to look into them too far to verify them.

flyermay
26-06-2009, 03:41 PM
You're making your argument even worse. That gives yet another source and date for the quote:
Foreword to Fleur Cowles, If I Were an Animal (William Morrow, publisher, 1987, ISBN 9780688061500)

So, which is real? You're all set to believe it's a real quote (backing up the idea of the NWO) yet seem to have absolutely no idea when, where or in what context it was said.

I think you are getting confused by the fact that the phrase has been used by different authors. The different references do not actually make reference to the prince's quote, but to the publication that quoted it.

For example:
"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels" (Prince Philip Duke of Edinburgh, leader of the World Wildlife Fund, quoted in "Are You Ready for Our New Age Future?" Insiders Report, American Policy Center, December 1995).
The quote includes, the person who the phrase is attributed to, and then the source (as explained before). So, the source might change, as I can include the quote in a book if I want to.

But please correct me if I'm wrong; that quote was on the headlines of every newspaper at its time.

kasalt
26-06-2009, 03:55 PM
It appears that Prince Philip may have made two separate quotes of this nature:

Reported by Deutsche Press Agentur (DPA), August, 1988:
"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."

Prince Philip, in his Foreward to If I Were an Animal; United Kingdom, Robin Clark Ltd., 1986.
"I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated in an animal whose species had been so reduced in numbers than it was in danger of extinction. What would be its feelings toward the human species whose population explosion had denied it somewhere to exist.... I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus."

Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/100604_prince_philip.html

that quote was on the headlines of every newspaper at its time.

Yes, I remember there was quite a flap about it in the press at the time.

flyermay
26-06-2009, 03:57 PM
I've just found the original foreword from the book where the quote originated.

It is indeed written in a somewhat different context than the conspiracy sites would have us believe - not to mention the words being completely different from those that are splashed across hundreds of thousand of those sites.
It's so easy to get pulled in by these misquotations. It seems not enough people on this site and others are willing to look into them too far to verify them.

Maybe if it's written differently is because it is a different quote. The one you posted is endeed from Robin Clark Ltd 1986. But the first one you asked for seems to have been first reported by Deutsche Press Agentur (DPA) in August, 1988; which is: "In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."

flyermay
26-06-2009, 03:59 PM
It appears that Prince Philip may have made two separate quotes of this nature:

Reported by Deutsche Press Agentur (DPA), August, 1988:
"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."

Prince Philip, in his Foreward to If I Were an Animal; United Kingdom, Robin Clark Ltd., 1986.
"I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated in an animal whose species had been so reduced in numbers than it was in danger of extinction. What would be its feelings toward the human species whose population explosion had denied it somewhere to exist.... I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus."

Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/100604_prince_philip.html

lol :)

jkdt0077
26-06-2009, 05:12 PM
It appears that Prince Philip may have made two separate quotes of this nature:

Reported by Deutsche Press Agentur (DPA), August, 1988:
"In the event that I am reincarnated, I would like to return as a deadly virus, in order to contribute something to solve overpopulation."

Prince Philip, in his Foreward to If I Were an Animal; United Kingdom, Robin Clark Ltd., 1986.
"I just wonder what it would be like to be reincarnated in an animal whose species had been so reduced in numbers than it was in danger of extinction. What would be its feelings toward the human species whose population explosion had denied it somewhere to exist.... I must confess that I am tempted to ask for reincarnation as a particularly deadly virus."

Source: http://www.prisonplanet.com/Pages/100604_prince_philip.html

Yes, I remember there was quite a flap about it in the press at the time.

:(

Gah.. It appears this way because you keep referencing the same conspiracy websites over and over again. I am trying to find an independent, original source of the quote. All your link shows is another conspiracy site perhaps misquoting the earlier, original, different quote from the book.

Granted, I wasnt old enough at the time to see the newspaper reports but that's neither here nor there. There still appears to be no real proof that he said those words, in that context.

flyermay
26-06-2009, 06:28 PM
:(

Gah.. It appears this way because you keep referencing the same conspiracy websites over and over again. I am trying to find an independent, original source of the quote. All your link shows is another conspiracy site perhaps misquoting the earlier, original, different quote from the book.

Granted, I wasnt old enough at the time to see the newspaper reports but that's neither here nor there. There still appears to be no real proof that he said those words, in that context.

That makes sense, but he made a lot of other comments on the same line, like:

Press conference at the National Press Club in Washington, D.C. on the occasion of the "Caring for Creation'' conference of the North American Conference on Religion and Ecology, May 18, 1990.
It is now apparent that the ecological pragmatism of the so-called pagan religions, such as that of the American Indians, the Polynesians, and the Australian Aborigines, was a great deal more realistic in terms of conservation ethics than the more intellectual monotheistic philosophies of the revealed religions.
Address on Receiving Honorary Degree from the University of Western Ontario, Canada, July 1, 1983.
For example, the World Health Organization Project, designed to eradicate malaria from Sri Lanka in the postwar years, achieved its purpose. But the problem today is that Sri Lanka must feed three times as many mouths, find three times as many jobs, provide three times the housing, energy, schools, hospitals and land for settlement in order to maintain the same standards. Little wonder the natural environment and wildlife in Sri Lanka has suffered. The fact [is] ... that the best-intentioned aid programs are at least partially responsible for the problems.
Preface to Down to Earth by HRH Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh, 1988, p.|8.
I don't claim to have any special interest in natural history, but as a boy I was made aware of the annual fluctuations in the number of game animals and the need to adjust the "cull'' to the size of the surplus population.
Lecture to the European Council of International Schools. Montreaux, Switzerland, Nov. 14, 1986.
The great difficulty about "life'' is that we humans are part of it, and it is therefore almost impossible to study objectively.... It therefore tends to be anthropocentric and gives scant attention to the welfare of all the other life-forms which share this planet with us.

...When the Bible says that man shall have "dominion'' over God's creation, the choice is between understanding dominion as in "having power over,'' or dominion as "having responsibility for.''


Plus, if he made those statements in public, imagine what he thinks in private!!!

kasalt
26-06-2009, 09:38 PM
:(

Gah.. It appears this way because you keep referencing the same conspiracy websites over and over again.

To my knowledge, neither Wikiquote (which is a division of Wikipedia) nor the Guardian/Observer are "conspiracy websites".

jkdt0077
29-06-2009, 11:05 AM
To my knowledge, neither Wikiquote (which is a division of Wikipedia) nor the Guardian/Observer are "conspiracy websites".

I give in. Wikiquote is a publicly editable site - meaning anyone can add what they want. Does that make it credible or truthful? Do you think it would hold up as proof in a court of law? Could you provide any evidence he said these things that would hold up in a court of law?

rosix
29-06-2009, 02:27 PM
I give in. Wikiquote is a publicly editable site - meaning anyone can add what they want. Does that make it credible or truthful? Do you think it would hold up as proof in a court of law? Could you provide any evidence he said these things that would hold up in a court of law?

lol quit any court of law bullshit for fucks sake
anything that you didn't hear personally from the person himself wouldn't be of any substance in a court of law provided everyone was properly exercising the rights and doing their correct duties and nothing more

who gives a shit what most of these people have said publically anyways, if there's a slight air of metaphorism, skeptics can and will dismiss them as either metaphors meaning something else or as non-metaophors at all - if they say something that's for example evil and not intended as a metaphor, skeptics can and will dismiss them as being crazy, joking, metaphorically speaking, whatever.

jkdt0077
29-06-2009, 08:47 PM
lol quit any court of law bullshit for fucks sake
anything that you didn't hear personally from the person himself wouldn't be of any substance in a court of law provided everyone was properly exercising the rights and doing their correct duties and nothing more

who gives a shit what most of these people have said publically anyways, if there's a slight air of metaphorism, skeptics can and will dismiss them as either metaphors meaning something else or as non-metaophors at all - if they say something that's for example evil and not intended as a metaphor, skeptics can and will dismiss them as being crazy, joking, metaphorically speaking, whatever.

Whereas you, on the other hand, take it as certain proof that Prince Philip wants to cull human population. Even though you have no evidence, nor can you provide any, that he actually said these "quotes". Anyway, forget it now, I don't want to argue I just wondered if anybody here could provide a hard copy of the original quote to satisfy my own curiosity.

flyermay
29-06-2009, 10:08 PM
Whereas you, on the other hand, take it as certain proof that Prince Philip wants to cull human population. Even though you have no evidence, nor can you provide any, that he actually said these "quotes". Anyway, forget it now, I don't want to argue I just wondered if anybody here could provide a hard copy of the original quote to satisfy my own curiosity.

I think you are the one who chose to ignore the fact that he textually mentioned: "the need to adjust the *cull* to the size of the surplus population"; as posted in another quote up there.

As we said before, the fact that all the media published those quotes in headlines are quite a valid proof of it. Whether you didn't read those newpapers, or do not believe they did publish them is another matter.

veritasvoice
30-06-2009, 04:10 AM
"National socialism will use its own revolution for the establishment of a new world order."

~Hitler

rosix
30-06-2009, 06:52 AM
Whereas you, on the other hand, take it as certain proof that Prince Philip wants to cull human population. Even though you have no evidence, nor can you provide any, that he actually said these "quotes". Anyway, forget it now, I don't want to argue I just wondered if anybody here could provide a hard copy of the original quote to satisfy my own curiosity.

where on earth has it been shown what I take as certain proof of anything?
better to find something to move forward with than to stick with something that will invariably have one running in circles

jkdt0077
30-06-2009, 11:38 AM
where on earth has it been shown what I take as certain proof of anything?
better to find something to move forward with than to stick with something that will invariably have one running in circles

As I said, forget it. This is a fruitless exercise. Although I have learnt not to believe any quotes mentioned on this forum, or any other conspiracy sites, at face value - and indeed that the majority were probably never said at all or have grossly been taken out of context.

rosix
30-06-2009, 06:43 PM
As I said, forget it. This is a fruitless exercise. Although I have learnt not to believe any quotes mentioned on this forum, or any other conspiracy sites, at face value - and indeed that the majority were probably never said at all or have grossly been taken out of context.

I haven't read all of this thread but quotations I think you can easily check up on are:
some evil ones from David Rockefeller (from his own book for example)
the famous NWO one from Bush snr.
a few more from big-name politicians in videos on YouTube

jim fear
01-08-2009, 06:31 PM
For more than a century, ideological extremists at either end of the political spectrum have seized upon well-publicized incidents to attack the Rockefeller family for the inordinate influence they claim we wield over American political and economic institutions. Some even believe we are part of a secret cabal working against the best interests of the United States, characterizing my family and me as "internationalists" and of conspiring with others around the world to build a more integrated global political and economic structure - one world, if you will. If that's the charge, I stand guilty, and I am proud of it. -David Rockefeller

- David Rockefeller's book "Memoirs" pg. 405

Kennedys speech:

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Check out the site below, there are all the quotes to do with the Greening of the planet.

http://www.green-agenda.com/

lizzy
01-08-2009, 06:56 PM
hi jimfear......just bookmarked the green agenda.......a new one for me ;)

great post btw.......if everything werelaid bare about the Rockers and Roths i msm for a month , they would be dead in the water.

cyclops
20-09-2009, 02:43 AM
Great video Jim!

Is it possible to download movie material from Youtube? Never did it actually, but this is worthwhile..

chris_com283
08-10-2009, 02:37 AM
Get a Realplayer update. It allows you to download FLV videos.

se19_london
16-10-2009, 12:22 PM
Would you accept this as a valid source?

http://www.guardian.co.uk/lifeandstyle/2009/jun/21/quotes-by-prince-philip


How can a mainstream left wing paper be a valid source if the illuminati control minds through media? Reverse psycology??! this is where it all turns a bit muddy for me......

kasalt
16-10-2009, 07:43 PM
How can a mainstream left wing paper be a valid source if the illuminati control minds through media? Reverse psycology??! this is where it all turns a bit muddy for me......

By "valid" I simply mean that they would have quoted him accurately, nothing more.

secret66mechanism
12-11-2009, 11:09 PM
hi guys, iv just found the "wow" picture/article of the day :eek: Er… What was that about global warming? Rare iceberg is spotted off sunny Australia
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UK Daily Mail
Thursday, Nov 12th, 2009
Australia is known for sunny beaches, surfers, and blistering Outback heat.
So scientists were a bit taken aback when they spotted this giant iceberg floating near an island Down Under.

Australian Antarctic Division researchers were working on Macquarie Island when they first saw the iceberg last Thursday about about five miles off the island.
It is rare to see an iceberg floating so far north of Antarctica, researchers said. Macquarie Island is about halfway between Antarctica and Australia, some 930 miles from Tasmania.
The iceberg is about 160 feet (50 metres) high and 1,640 feet (500 metres) long.
now thats weird http://www.doomdaily.com/2009/er%e2%80%a6-what-was-that-about-global-warming-rare-iceberg-is-spotted-off-sunny-australia/ for full story and an amazing picture,click link;)

tjohn
20-11-2009, 09:37 AM
yep those "Disinformationists" hey 'albie' ;)

I guess if they were warning against it, it's odd they should be doing that very thing?


In his article, "Global warming hysteria serves as excuse for world government" Daniel Taylor outlined how the exploitation of the natural phenomenon of "global warming" was a pet project of the Club of Rome and the CFR

"Richard Haass, the current president of the Council on Foreign Relations, stated in his article "State sovereignty must be altered in globalized era," that a system of world government must be created and sovereignty eliminated in order to fight global warming, as well as terrorism. "Moreover, states must be prepared to cede some sovereignty to world bodies if the international system is to function," says Haass. "Globalization thus implies that sovereignty is not only becoming weaker in reality, but that it needs to become weaker. States would be wise to weaken sovereignty in order to protect themselves..."

an essential means of achieving global government by consent over conquest, as has long been the ultimate goal of the elite, is by "fanning public hysteria" over climate change,

FURTHER QUOTES

"The Trilateral Commission, one of the three pillars of the New World Order in alliance with Bilderberg and the CFR, met last week in near secrecy to formulate policy on how best they could exploit global warming fearmongering to ratchet up taxes and control over how westerners live their lives.

At the confab, European Chairman of the Trilateral Commission, Bilderberger and chairman of British Petroleum Peter Sutherland (pictured top), gave a speech to his elitist cohorts in which he issued a "Universal battle cry arose for the world to address “global warming” with a single voice."

Echoing this sentiment was General Lord Guthrie, director of N.M. Rothschild & Sons, member of the House of Lords and former chief of the Defense Staff in London, who urged the Trilateral power-brokers to "Address the global climate crisis with a single voice, and impose rules that apply worldwide."

Globalists love global warming! Oil industry kingpins, Bilderbergers and Rothschild minions have all put their weight behind it. This is a fraud conceived, nurtured and promulgated by elite, and to castigate individuals for merely questioning the motives behind climate change fearmongering by accusing them of being mouthpieces for the establishment is a complete reversal of the truthWhy would the oil industry love the idea of global warming? It means less sales dosen't it?

tjohn
20-11-2009, 09:56 AM
lol quit any court of law bullshit for fucks sake
anything that you didn't hear personally from the person himself wouldn't be of any substance in a court of law provided everyone was properly exercising the rights and doing their correct duties and nothing more

who gives a shit what most of these people have said publically anyways, if there's a slight air of metaphorism, skeptics can and will dismiss them as either metaphors meaning something else or as non-metaophors at all - if they say something that's for example evil and not intended as a metaphor, skeptics can and will dismiss them as being crazy, joking, metaphorically speaking, whatever.Not sure if what you said there was meant to be a metaphor or not...:D
False dilemma - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

tjohn
20-11-2009, 10:00 AM
Great video Jim!

Is it possible to download movie material from Youtube? Never did it actually, but this is worthwhile..The video has been took off. :mad:

Was this it?
www.youtube.com/watch?v=zlghYpDx0f4
JFK SPEECH ON SECRET SOCIETIES AND FREEDOM OF THE PRESS - YouTube

To download Youtube videos try
http://youtubedownload.altervista.org

ericbs5247
08-12-2009, 07:03 PM
Here's a blog dedicated to New World Order Quotes:

New World Order Quotes – Quotes from world leaders and industrialists highlighting the conspiracy:
New World Order Quotes (http://newworldorderquotes.blogspot.com/)

There are also some quotes specific to money creation on this blog:

Economics and Money Creation - How the Federal Reserve System and Fractional Reserve Banking have forced the masses into debt slavery
Money as Debt - Debt Slavery (http://money-as-debt-debt-slavery.blogspot.com/)

dragon fang
27-02-2010, 05:58 PM
"We are on the verge of a global transformation. All we need is the right major crisis and the nations will accept the New World Order." - David Rockefeller

"Give me control of a nation's money and I care not who makes its laws." - Mayer Amschel Bauer Rothschild

"Military men are dumb, stupid animals to be used as pawns for foreign policy." - Henry Kissinger

"We can't be so fixated on our desire to preserve the rights of ordinary Americans..." - President Bill Clinton, USA Today, 03-11-1993

"The real truth of the matter is, as you and I know, that a financial element in the larger centers has owned the government since the days of Andrew Jackson." - President Franklin Roosevelt, 11-21-1933

"We know in the not too distant future, a half dozen corporations are going to control the media. We took this step (merger) to ensure we were one of them" - Time Warner spokesperson.

"A total world population of 250-300 million people, a 95% decline from present levels, would be ideal." - Ted Turner

"If I were reincarnated I would wish to be returned to earth as a killer virus to lower human population levels." - Prince Philip, Duke of Edinburgh

"If the people were to ever find out what we have done, we would be chased down the streets and lynched." - President George H W Bush

"If you tell a lie big enough and keep repeating it, People will eventually come to believe it." - Nazi Minister Joseph Goebbels

clearlyenlight
14-03-2010, 08:49 AM
Well it is true it will happen.

9-11 was the activation of the preparation stage for the NWO.

From 9/11/2001 to 12/21/2012 is 11 years and 101 days, an occult number of 11:11

12/21/2012 added to 11 that adds to the time of 11:11 which = the power number of 33

2012 is the occults activation key to begin the NWO

You can visit this link on more of the numerology of 2012
http://adventofdeception.com/occult-numerology-2012

aejor_mn
11-07-2010, 04:46 AM
King Solomon, servant to satan and the seal of samuel solomon hexagram star of devils.(david)


-Solomon (Hebrew - peaceful)
-also called Jedidah - "beloved of yahweh.
-2nd Son of David and Bethsabee (Bathsheba)
-not the heir to the throne but appointed by David at 18yoa.
-reigned 40 years
-main sources Kings 1;-1-9, Chonicles 2; 1-9
-marriage alliance with Egyptian Pharaoh Psieukhannit (Psebkhan) II's daughter who ruled Zoan (Tanis/Avaris) a Hyksos city.
- ties with Phoenician King Hiram of Tyre in trade for solomon's northlands.
- solomon slaughter the city of Gezer and Canaanites for his egptian wife.

- 70 wives and 300 concubines
- divided kingdom into 12 states while ignoring the 12 tribes
- death uncertain estimated between 938 and 916.bC.
- claimed as wise,all knowing, spoke 3000 proverbs and 1005 songs.
- enjoyed lust,luxury and fashioned himself and his kingdom after the pharaohs of egypt.
- reign of his son broke the kingdom into two that destroyed the hebrews in favor of Assyria and Babylon.
- obese, perverted and led by his wives to worship strange gods.
- unlike The Wars of David, his father, showed no interest for foreign conquest
- constructed Solomon's Temple and the Tabernacle.
- parts of Proverbs are from other authors

-Nathan the prophet of David,Banaias,Solomon and Sadoc were not invited by Adonias,son of David who made himself king.

-David commits adultery and murder in Samuel 2:11
-Nathan appears mysteriously to David advising him not to build the temple but for Solomon to build it. Nathan secures Solomon as king by convincing David's wife Bethsabee to complain. Nathan then appears later mysteriously to Solomon advising him to build the temple.
-Nathan,Samuel and Gad the seers, wrote a part of David's history.(chronicles 1:29 and 2:29

-Banais was a murderer and a priest, he also murdered Adonias, Jacob's son to secure Solomon as king. Solomon ordered the death of Adonias.(kings 1; 2:46)

-Joab;general of an army

- David names Sadoc the priest and Nathan the prophet and Banais to appoint Solomon as king (Cerethi and Phelethi people)
-sadoc anoints solomon with a horn of oil (horn of the altar of the tabernacle)

-Adonais testifies that his mother Bethsabee knew that all israel preferred him to be king and that the kingdom was his.

-Solomon commanded Adonais' death for his mother requesting on behalf of Adonais the hand of Abisag the beautiful Sunamitess in marriage.(kings 1; 2:24)

-He went therefore to Gabaon, to sacrifice there: for that was the great high place: a thousand victims for holocausts, did Solomon offer upon that altar, in Gabaon. 5 And the Lord appeared to Solomon in a dream by night, saying: Ask what you will that I should give you. 6 And Solomon said: You have showed great mercy to your servant David, my father...

-david tells solomon to obey the lords commandments (david murdered and committed adutlery)
- the lord tells solomon to walk in the way of his commandments as his father david did.(kings 1;3:14) ha ha!

-two harlots argued to solomon about a child. Solomon told them to ta ke a sword and cut the child in half!

Zabud, the son of Nathan, the priest,

kings1; 5:18,
18 And the masons of Solomon, and the masons of Hiram, hewed them: and the Giblians prepared timber and stones to build the house.


480 years after exodus,and in the 4th year of solomon's reign, the temple began construction.
est 927 solomon died, plus 40 ruled = 967 - 4 = 963.bC + 480 = 1443 Exodus (Kings 1:6)
Amenhotep II (1450-1412) Thutmose III (1504-1450)

the tabernacle of temple was built in the month of ZIO.

60L x 20w x 30h (Royal Cubit=21in)
1260inL x 420w x 630h
105ftL x 35w x 52.5h

All factors divisible by 5. (52.5 = 10.5)

The temple was meant for change, thus the Ritual of the Pentagram.

60 x 20 x 30 = 36,000 = 9 = God 1 bothered by the 8 satan = change = 5
36,000/5 = 7200 = 72 rabbis = 72 virgins = 72 betrayors of Osiris = 9

1260/5 = 252 = 9, 420/5 = 84 = 12 = 3, 630/5 = 126 = 9

60+20+30 = 110 = 11 = 2 entwined serpents or dual nature. (11 or 11:11)
5 petal rose centered in a 6 sided hexagram = 11
9:11 Twin Towers.

The porch in front was 20w x 10d cubits.(420in x 210in = 6 + 3 = 9.

3 floors on the walls being 5,6 and 7 cubits wide = 18 = 9
Built the main floor 5 cubits in height.
The Temple was built of stone and covered with cedar without any fasteners! Basicaly a house of falling cards! 5 of spades?

ZA-EL-Omens Temple Tabernacle....ha ha!
(satan lords omens = month of Z-io)
The murder of Christ added Zero to our calendars!

Made from Cedar trees of Phoenicia (Phanes > Pharaohs > Lucifer > Cedar Red)

The NWO or ZMO, the Red Shields and friends or satanists, envoke demons who can tell them secrets of people or wisdom, thus the satan lord granted demons for solomons wisdom! (yahweh was satan in disguise as proven)

Solomon = Soul of No Man = unrightful heir to the throne of Adonais = condemned = ZA El Omen's or Satan lord's Omens! OM-ON can also mean AMMON as in Egypt and ON as in Heliopolis,Egypt,The Sun city of Satan's Worship (Lucifer). Thus Solomon married an Egyptian wife. David was also condemned by serving satan as his murders and adultery and yahweh's LIES disguised as satan testify to!

yahweh promised he would never destroy the earth again, thus satan's testimony that he did in fact destroy the earth and not our true God JA MN!
Right after yahweh's promise he destroyed sodom and gommorha! David also said to obey the commandments that he himself broke, and yet after his death, yahweh says to solomon to also follow the commandments like David did! ha ha!


12 as for this house, which you are building, if you will walk in my statutes, and execute my judgments, and keep all my commandments, walking in them, I will fulfil my word to you, which I spoke to David your father. 13 And I will dwell in the midst of the children of Israel, and I will not forsake my people Israel.-satan yahweh's words!

The Oracle of Broken Blood of Brine in the Tabernacle or H-olies of H-olies. (Hot lies or Ho Lies = whores lies = Putah = Zathanel HatuptaH = Zatan).

The Tabernacle temple of the Oracle was itself 40cubits long by 20 cubits wide with a 20cu cedar hind wall. 40 x 20 = 80 = 8 = Entwined serpents = satan = 888. 40 x 20 x 20 = 16000 = 7 = 7 days of yahwehs creation = 7 days of hell's intervention on earth from Orion. 7 laws of Sin?
The tabernacle was covered in the most purest GOLD! 22 karat of course,44,88 > 888.

Ark of the Covenant > Ark of the COVEN (Cave of the OVEN - witches and wiZArds covens) Coven of Anti or those against true God JA MN, Atheists!

Satan loved numbers and GOLD. Why do you think they hoarde it and dominate your financial systems by the Red Shields of Red Cedar or Red Covens!

22 And there was nothing in the temple that was not covered with gold: the whole altar of the oracle he covered also with gold.

two cherubims of olive tree, of ten cubits in height. 24 One wing of the cherub was five cubits, and the other wing of the cherub was five cubits: that is, in all ten cubits,

Oil really isn't good for you is it? It's good for "brazening" things though. Oil spills kill's life forms and ingested will make you sick or die > greasy foods. Oil fires like Diesel fuels kill the atmosphere and you. Why do you think they call it DIES EL? Lord of Death!

And in the entrance of the oracle, he made little doors of olive tree, and posts of FIVE corners.

Cherubims probably meanS Black angels like satan was or CHARRED uBIMS > BURNT H-UMANS (UBIMS - Umans who became bad then evil-BA,Bes,bad spirit)

The Temple was built in the FOURTH year of Solomon's rule (second month of ZIO) and finished in......

....The ELEVENTH YEAR (11) in the EIGHTH month of BUL! ( notice that the HEIGHTH as a hebrew would say it or the 8 or H has three H's in it like ZatHanel-HatupaH?) Bulls are a symbol of power and destruction like HATHOR or HORUS.

Again another reason why 11 is important to satanist and the phreemasons further provenancing 911 twin towers of the ZMO destruction!


Let Us Go On Umans! (no need to reveal the truth about yahweh or david like abraHam, the murderers,adulterers,liars,fornicators, as Jesus himself said!)
You can read all that for yourself, then realize why you turned against our True God JA MN by falsely blaming Him of you who He So Created!


-solomon built his own house in 13 years.(no doubt!) He also built the house in the FOREST of LIBANUS that was LARGER THAN THE TEMPLE SUPPOSEDLY TO GOD!

- must be something pretty important about that witches hut in the forest! Satan's house where they performed satanic rituals and murders in the WOODS > HOLLY'S WOODS! Again on the principle of 5 as in the pentagram like solomon's temple this place was built! I guess we know where LIES and LIABLE come from!

LIBANUS = LIBRARY OF ANUBIS = SATANIC SECRET SOCIETIES = SERAPAEUMS = CORINTHIANS = ELYSIAN MYSTERIES = HELIOPOLITANS = VULCANS = 666 = SERVANTS OF ZA!
EGYPTIAN QABBALLA = HEBREW KHABAALAH = ZMO.

So these ZMO or Phreemasons must have Temples of Libanus somewhere as their head meat-ing places for brazening the oils of za and blowing azazels horn!


Pontius Pilates the "character of the satanic play" for the "satanic ritual murder of Jesus The Christ, was a chosen name like all their names are in meaning...Bridge of HUMAN SKIN FOR THE Piled Ruin! PONTUS(BRIDGE) PIL(SKIN) ATE(RUIN). JE-RU-SA-LEM > JEHOVAH'S RUIN FOR THE SON FOR THE LAME.

He made also the porch of the throne wherein (HOUSE OF LIBANUS) is the seat of judgment; and covered it with cedar wood from the floor to the top. 8 And in the midst of the porch, was a small house, where he sat in judgment of the like work. He made also a house for the daughter of Pharao (whom Solomon had taken to wife) of the same work, as this porch;

THUS JOBES DAUGHTERS for the freemasons represent Egypt or ISIS VEILED. Freemasons = Phree MA ZAns = Phanes mothers sons = lucifer's mothers sons = satan's homosexuals and hermaphrodite worshippers.

13 And King Solomon sent, and brought Hiram from Tyre, 14 the son of a widow woman, of the tribe of Nephthali, (Nephalim?) Nefarious = evil ones.)
The freemasons credit Hiram Abiff as the architect for solomon's temple. As you can clearly see, he WAS NOT the architect of the temple but rather the one who built the twin brass pillars for solomon of joab and boaz!

JOAB was a murdering priest! Twin pillars = JoAb vs boAZ or JA vs ZA or GOD vs SATAN and the OB harlots.

Jachin... That is, firmly established. (Thus established or enduring also means MN or MIN or MENES like Atlas,further provenance of our True God JA MN!)

Booz... That is, in its strength.(7 light years of evil energetic strength! > the lie of the earth created in 7 days!)

Both pillars being 18 cubits high = 9. Mounted on top with chapiters of 5cubits in height! FIVE. Surrounded by a line of 12 cubits = time.

And a kind of network, and chain work wreathed together with wonderful art. Both the chapiters of the pillars were cast: seven rows of nets were on one chapiter, and seven nets on the other chapiter. 18 And he made the pillars, and two rows round about each network to cover the chapiters, that were upon the top, with pomegranates: and in like manner did he to the other chapiter.

Pomegranates being a RED CEDAR color fruit with RED seeds inside. Same as offered to Persephone in Hades.

They tell you JACHIN was the RIGHT pillar and BOOZ the LEFT pillar. In greek it's written BAAZ or BAAS.
BA AL > Evil Spirit of Lucifer(sun=AL or Lord as in El)

23 He made also a molten sea, of ten cubits, from brim to brim, round all about; the height of it was five cubits, and a line of thirty cubits compassed it round about. 24 And a graven work, under the brim of it, compassed it for ten cubits going about the sea: there were two rows cast of chamfered sculptures. 25 And it stood upon twelve oxen, of which three looked towards the north, and three towards the west, and three towards the south, and three towards the east: and the sea was above upon them, and their hinder parts were all hid within. 26 And the laver was a hand breadth thick: and the brim thereof was like the brim of a cup, or the leaf of a crisped lily: it contained two thousand bates.

Hiram made cauldrons, and shovels, and basins, and finished all the work of King Solomon in the temple of the Lord.

No doubt this Libanus temple was Satan's seat as yahweh!

48 And Solomon made all the vessels for the house of the Lord: the altar of gold, and the table of gold, upon which the loaves of proposition should be set: 49 And the golden candlesticks, five on the right hand, and five on the left, over against the oracle, of pure gold: and the flowers like lilies, and the lamps over them of gold: and golden snuffers, 50 and pots, and fleshhooks, and bowls, and mortars, and censers, of most pure gold: and the hinges for the doors of the inner house of the holy of holies, and for the doors of the house of the temple, were of gold. 51 And Solomon finished all the work that he made in the house of the Lord, and brought in the things that David, his father, had dedicated, the silver and the gold, and the vessels, and laid them up in the treasures of the house of the Lord.

Loaves of Proposition = loaves of faces = materia where demonic faces of satan's messages can be sent to solomon.
pots,fleshooks,shovels,chains,nets,webs,pomegranat es,lava pools,hinges,chains,gold,etc.......

Great place to film a H-orror (Horus) movie for the Holly's Woods of the ZMO!




Then all the ancients of Israel, with the princes of the tribes, and the heads of the families of the children of Israel, were assembled to King Solomon, in Jerusalem: that they might carry the ark of the covenant of the Lord, out of the city of David, that is, out of Sion.


Thus satans' servants of ZIONISM and iZArael = ZMO = Zionist Masonic Oligarchy = NWO = Red Shields of Pomegranates!
RaZaEl = Demon = EleaZAr = son of ELIZA, rabbi who murdered The Christ. Ra=king Za=satan El=lord. EliZA = Lordess of Satan. Beth = House.

RaZAel = iZrael = ZION or ZA dominion or ZA ON as in Heliopolis worshipped by satanists,zmo,oto,jesuit priests,rabbis,knights of malta,rosicruicians,templars,saturn cutls,freemasons,jobes daughters,skull and bones,golden dawn,etc....

And all Israel assembled themselves to King Solomon, on the festival day, in the month of Ethanim, the same is the seventh month.

Ethanim = Zathanel Hatuptah = it of many faces and disguises = Nathanel the rabbi priest to David and solomon who like PNAC orchestrating 911 for the ZMO,also ocrchestrated solomon's rule and the temple to be built!

9 Now in the ark there was nothing else but the two tables of "stone", which Moses put there at H-oreb, when the Lord made a covenant with the children of Israel, when they came out of the land of Egypt. (pretty much explains itself!)

62 And the king, and all Israel with him, offered victims before the Lord. 63 And Solomon slew victims of peace offerings, which he sacrificed to the Lord, two and twenty thousand oxen, and a hundred and twenty thousand sheep so the king, and all the children of Israel, dedicated the temple of the Lord. 64 In that day the king sanctified the middle of the court, that was before the house of the Lord for there he offered the holocaust, and sacrifice, and the fat of the peace offerings: because the brazen altar that was before the Lord, was too little to receive the holocaust, and sacrifice, and the fat of the peace offerings.

Funny the German Jews or ZMO who killed the Jews in world war II should also use the term H-olocaust for their sins, knowingly as a servitude to satan like above.

16 Pharao, the king of Egypt, came up and took Gazer, and burnt it with fire: and slew the Chanaanite that dwelt in the city, and gave it for a dowry to his daughter, Solomon's wife.

14 And the weight of the gold that was brought to Solomon every year, was six hundred and sixty-six talents of gold: 666

And King Solomon made love with many strange women, besides the daughter of Pharao, and women of Moab, and of Ammon, and of Edom, and of Sidon, and of the Hethites and women that his lord told him to stay away from:

Solomon worshipped Astarthe, the goddess of the Sidonians, and Moloch, the idol of the Ammonites. 6 And Solomon did that which was not pleasing before the Lord, and did not fully follow the Lord, as David, his father. 7 Then Solomon built a temple for Chamos, the idol of Moab, on the hill that is over against Jerusalem, and for Moloch, the idol of the children of Ammon. (kings 1;11)


ZATHANEL HATUPTAH > ZA > ZATAN. Just like the NWO,twist the N and flip the W = ZMO, thus Nathan or Nathanael = Zathanel.

Nathan (God-given), the name of several Israelites mentioned in the Old Testament.

Nathan, successor of Samuel and prophet in the times of David and Solomon
No indication is given as to his origin, and he appears in the narrative for the first time when David is contemplating the erection of a house to the Lord (2 Samuel 7). He assures the monarch of the Lord's support and of the divinely ordained establishment of his kingdom for all time, but dissuades him from the idea of building the proposed temple, stating that this honour was reserved for his son and successor (2 Samuel 7:13; 1 Chronicles 17:1-15). Nathan appears later to reproach David in the name of the Lord for his crime of adultery and murder narrated in 2 Samuel 11, and, after skilfully proposing the allegory of the poor man's little ewe lamb, surprises the king with the words: "Thou art the man". He then declares the anger of the Lord and the punishments that are to fall upon David, although in view of the latter's repentance his sin is pronounced forgiven, for his crimes had given occasion to the enemies of the Lord to blaspheme (2 Samuel 12:1-15). The prophet next appears on the scene when it is question of securing to Solomon the succession to the throne of his father. Adonias, abetted by Joab and the high priest Abiathar, made an attempt to have himself proclaimed king. The plan was frustrated by Nathan who, first through Bethsabee and later in a personal interview, informed David as to the doings of Adonias, and persuaded the aged monarch to confirm his promise in favour of Solomon and have him proclaimed king at the fountain of Gihon (1 Kings 1:8-45). In this instance Nathan served the interests of the country as well as those of David and Solomon by averting a civil war. He is credited by the Chronicler with having written a part of the history of David, together with Samuel the seer and Gad the seer (1 Chronicles 29:29; 2 Chronicles 29:25). The time of Nathan's death is not given, but his name is mentioned in Sirach 47:1.

Nathan, son of David and Bethsabee (2 Samuel 5:14; 1 Chronicles 3:5 and 14:4)
The name Nathan augmented by the theophorous prefix or suffix is borne by other members of the family of David. Thus one of his brothers was Nathanael (1 Chronicles 2:14), and one of his nephews, Jonathan (2 Samuel 21:21).

Nathan, father of Azarias and Zabud, important functionaries of the court of Solomon (1 Kings 4:5)
By some scholars he is identified with Nathan the prophet (1), and by others with Nathan the son of David (2). Both opinions are merely conjectural. His son Zabud is designated as "priest", this being an indication, among many others, that the functions of the priesthood were not at that period exercised exclusively by the descendants of Aaron.

Nathan, son of Ethei and father of Zabad (1 Chronicles 2:36), of the tribe of Juda and of the branch of Caleb
His grandfather Jeraa was an Egyptian slave to whom Sesan gave one of his daughters in marriage (1 Chronicles 2:34-35).

Nathan, one of the prominent Jews of the time of the captivity
Chosen by Esdras together with several others to find levites for the temple service when the Jews were camped on the banks of the Ahava preparing to return to Palestine (Ezra 8:16).

Nathan, one of the sons of Bani mentioned in Ezra 10:39
He was among those who, at the command of Esdras, put away(murdered) the foreign wives they had married.


Solomon's song 1:5

King James Bible
I am black, but comely, O ye daughters of Jerusalem, as the tents of Kedar, as the curtains of Solomon.

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Strong's Hebrew

2094. zahar
to be light or shining

2096. zohar
shining, brightness

2196. zaaph
to be vexed, be enraged


Forest of Libanus = Lebanon
hal-le-va-no-vn = Lebanon

from lebab;

3825. lebab
heart

Well,I guess we know what they were doing in Solomon's macabre Forest House of Libanus's manacles! Satanic rituals of the ZMO!

Leviathan > Zathanel

The pentagram (pentalpha) comes from the Pythagorean tradition. The goat's or ram's head within it refers to the Goat of Mendes, a symbol of the Egyptian Neter Amon, who was called "the hidden one", he who abides in all things, the soul of all pehnomena" and is thus the closest Neter to the Dark Force which is seen to permeate and motivate all nature. The Two concenctric circles which contain the word "LEVIATHAN" written in Hebrew (starting at the lowermost point and moving counterclockwise) stem from the tradition of the Ophite (SERPENT) JEWS, and this is the essence of the Dragon of the Abyss, descended from Tiamat, sometimes symbolized as an ouroboros (serpent biting it's own tail forming a circle). Thus,in one sigil, we find a confluence of several cultures approach to embodying what we call satan. (churchofsatan.com)

And who headed the church of satan? A Jew named Anton s-ZA-nder LaVey.

Thus Samuel's satanic Pentagram.

(Zeus 'god'ammon = sabaZaeus = jews from Egypt) > Pharisees. The Sabbath > Saturday.

Raneb ca.2700.bC followed Hotepsekhemwy to the throne of Egypt, and is thought to have ruled for 39 years. Many sealings found at Saqqara and a stela located at Abydos bear his name. Raneb had, according to Manetho, initiated the worship of the sacred goat of Mendes.

This was when the worship of RA,The Solar Calendar and the Sun Temples came into play for Lucifer. Raneb was the first to use the titular of RA for a pharaohs name.

Thus Evil arose through Egypt from K-H-en-YAH. (Cheniah > Chanaan > Phoenicieans from Pharaohs...from Phanes lucifer....see?




Now you know why they wear black suns on their heads,pray to the ground or bang their heads on stone or bobble back and forth or why Socrates called them square heads with broad arses who study the heavens!


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Paulo Riven
Tribes of Atlantis

And God Said,Rid ourselves of Evils....ZMO HAS TO GO!!!

.111.Let those who cause evil merit the reward in return.111.

Pray with God JA MN
Worship No Stone
Command No Death
Love Thy Nieghbour
Preserve Our Histories

aejor_mn
11-07-2010, 07:43 AM
Now let's look at computers.

Based on 8 bits in a byte or 8 byte pipelines = 888 = satan. (16,32,64)

steve's JOBS and bill's GATES...see?

Job's being a corruption of JOBES daughters,thus the apple as in Eve for Macintosh (OGHAM).
Gates of course symbolizing the Gates of Hell or Lucifer's servants.
Ogham and hebrew codes are implemented in computer programming language just like the webdings font symbols or david font.

For one, nothing is secure on these computers, just like your isp address is made available which should be held privately by our isp providers like comcast,telus,rogers,juno,etc. Which is how they can hack into your computers aside of knowing your mac address on your network card or machine, or sending you an email to read the packets in your reply. Just right click your word documents and view the source code with your computer name on them.

If there was a problem,then that information should be legaly obtained from the isp provider and not all over the internet! Big lawsuit there including for microsoft,browsers and os companies!

Aside of not knowing what the heck of 90% is in your computer or what they are, there are also files that you are locked out from by them. For example, what's the point of that Xerox folder,as in to copy or MS Agent that looks like a detective? Try to delete a file and it says, in use by another program instead of telling you which program? Just like the properties tells you nothing much at all and leaves your wondering what kind of file is that or what is starting up with your computer?

Not only is their operating systems unreliable and ill conceived with ulterior motives like their computer marketing scams for you to upgrade or new operating systems that steal more memory and speed anyway like the video game market for pc,which is fading,but also that through additional programs you install that are connected behind the scenes with them, they can still get around and into your pc. For example Adobe Flash player,google,or webbrowsers,mcafee viruscan,windows firewall, etc....... Adobe meaning RED BRICK. No need to expain Acro-BAT.

COMPUTER - COME PUT ERRORS!
BIOS - BASIC INPUT OUTPUT SYSTEM BROTHERHOOD IN OPPRESSION OF SOCIETY!

Bottom line, our computers are evil,basicaly premeditated by the ZMO Crows of Ley lines and satanic worship like everything else in our media,foods,ecosystems,financial,real estate,schools,banks,advertising,educational,justi ce,everything infected with their diseased minds!

Think about most of the words associated with your computer experience?

INTER-NET,ASP.NET,DOT COM-MUNISM, WORLD WIDE WEB, SOFT-WARE, HARD-WARE, MESSENGER, BROWSER, JAVA, SUNSYSTEMS, ORACLE, ADOBE ACRO-BAT, SETUP,VIRUS,HACKER,MODEM,ROUTER,BOOT-UP,CRASH,DVD,CD,DISK,FLOPPY,POWERSUPPLY,VIDEO,KEYB OARD,MOUSE,MONITOR,CHIPSET,MOTHERBOARD,
SILICON,FACEBOOK,KAZAA,MULE,E-MULE,WIRELESS,WIRES,USB (UNIVERSAL SERVANTS TO THE BROTHERHOOD).FLASH,SHOCKWAVE,CURSOR,FORMAT,SKINS,

WWW = 23+23+23 OR 555 OR 15 OR 6 OR 666,OR 69=15=6 (6 SATAN, 9 GOD) OR 12167 = 17=8 = 888 = SATAN

Or how about some of their products or OPERATING SYSTEMS. X-BOX,WINDOWS 95=13, 98 = 17=8, XP=eXorcise people,MILLenium,VISTA,WINDOWS 7(SATAN),OFFICE,WORKS,JAGUAR,PANTHER,LEOPARD,FIREW ALLS,SECURITY,(secular rite),SPYWARE,VIRUSES,HACKERS,CRACKERS,PROTOCOL,HY PER MARK UP LANGUAGE,HYPER TEXT,GOPHER. And what do they call your systems X86? 14=5=change. x64 = 10 = 5


Just like you think NASA is the National Aviation and Space Agency when it is really Hebrew for Journey!

RBC-Royal Bank of Canada = Rothchilds brotherhood of Corruption. FED-ER-AL(FEEDER FOR LUCIFER'S GOLD) reserve,DEMON cratic, RepubliWICCAN, WICCANPEDIA,etc...


Now how about your programs?
EXE = EXECUTE, BAT = BATCH, DOC,TXT,OCX,(OX),ACTIVE X, ISP,ASP,HTTP,WIZARD,JPEG,MPEG,BAK,BACKUP,BITS,BYTE S,SERVER,CAT,CHM(KHEM),DOTH,DOCH,DOT,ELM,EMF,SATA, ICON,JAR,JOB,LEX,MAD,MAR,MAW,NFO,OSS,RAT,RNK,RICH TEXT,KERNAL,SHELL,WAB,WAX,VXD,WIZ,ZAP,ZIP.TEMPLATE ,VISUAL BASIC,PYTHON,C+,C++,SLAVE,MASTER,WILDCARD,E-MAIL,USER NAME,LOG IN,



ALL things to do with evil and sinister plans of the black crows!
And it doesn't stop there! Tons more you can find related not to mentione there symbols of the sun,horns,serpents,wizards,one eye,counter-clockwise,and their main company names and logos like LG has a one eye counter clockwise logo or office 2010.

LinuX,IBM,INTEL,AMD,etc...all connected.

That is why your computers (COME PUT ERRORS) never work properly and were never properly designed for the average person! Everything is designed for failure.
All of their operating systems are a failure! The new stuff is just the old stuff with more spyware!

Most of the movies on the internet you can't even watch unless you download ADOBE ACROBAT FLASH for your SHOCKWAVE!
Which spies on you and keeps track of your cookies and webbrowsing even after you delete them from internet explorer or FIRE FOX.Besides being another way into your computers like Universal Plug and Play.

NEWS feeds is another way to get into your computer besides your browser or online video games.

There you go,that is more proof of why the NWO are in fact satan worshippers! You can't deny!

NWO = ZMO.!
Computers are full of hebrew ciphers and codes! Notice all the Y's in programming? yahweh > satan. 888.

A computer is too stupid for people! It's not that they are so smart but so clever......see?

And who owns your computer lines,phone lines,wireless lines,intelligence lines,defence lines,financial lines, etc,etc......they do the ZMO.
Just like your major BOARDS OF CORRUPTION and GOVERNMENTS all sorry ass losers for the Red Shields and Germanic Israel.

A great germ upon nations!

At least China knows what's going on! Their biggest fear! The yellow race...their end goal for world dominion.ha ha!


Now when will the people put an end to their ZMO dominion and governments........I ask you?

Will real people ever step forward to disband these boards of corruption? This is the law of your constitutional rights!

Isn't time you used that Law before they try to nuke us all and bring up their brainwashed freaks from their fema concentration camps from the underground for that event? Then they'll give them another flood story and blame God......and a black book?

And you wonder why your histories are hidden!

aejor_mn
12-07-2010, 07:35 AM
My beloved followers of TRUTH;


In my previous post we saw how the temple of solomon and especially the house in the forest of Libanus is pure evil where satanic rituals took place.
And we know for a fact of how yahweh was satan in disguise or god for their sense of eternal insanity!

Alike the pillars of Joab and Boaz of the freemason who they call Joab as Joachim, we find this little tidbit from Kings 1; 2:28;

28 And the news came to Joab, because Joab had turned after Adonias, and had not turned after Solomon: and Joab fled into the tabernacle of the Lord, and took hold on the horn of the altar. 29 And it was told King Solomon, that Joab was fled into the tabernacle of the Lord, and was by the altar: and Solomon sent Banaias, the son of Joiada, saying. Go, kill him. 30 And Banaias came to the tabernacle of the Lord, and said to him: Thus says the king: Come forth. And he said: I will not come forth, but here I will die. Banaias brought word back to the king, saying: Thus says Joab, and thus he answered me. 31 And the king said to him: Do as he has said; and kill him, and bury him, and you shall remove the innocent blood which has been shed by Joab, from me, and from the house of my father:

Not such a holy temple anymore is it? Why would a true God allow that to happen in his temple that he supposedly commanded to be built? Then a true god would have been watching over his divine temple plans! yahweh satan on the other hand saw to it that it's temple was properly "baptiZed" by innocent blood as spoken of Joab who rejected solomon and with very,very good reason as we know!

Solomon awaked, and perceived that it was a dream: and when he had come to Jerusalem, he stood before the ark of the covenant of the Lord, and offered holocausts, and sacrificed victims...

As you can clearly see,the ark of the covenant or Cave of Ovens is clearly evil and a covenant with satan containing "stone" tab-lets.

King Solomon reigned over all Israel: 2 And these were the princes which he had: Azarias, the son of Nathan, over them that were about the king: Zabud, the son of Nathan, the priest, the king's friend:

Nathan the prophet was also satan in disguise as a H-uman. satan was zathanel hatuptah,thus nathanel and a son named ZA-bud. satan as nathanel made sure solomon was made king through murder and it's temple of solomon was also built through murder. natanel the prophet appears mysteriously to david and to solomon. Little or nothing is known of him.

Solomon's daughter was named Basemath, thus the name for mathematics.

Kings 1; 5:18.
18 And the masons of Solomon, and the masons of Hiram, hewed them: and the G-IBLIANS prepared timber and stones to build the house.

Solomon went to G-ABAON to sacrifice (Golan heights-satanic ritual grounds of vultures and the Wheel of the Cat pillar)

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Thus the "G" in freemasonery represents the GABAON GIBLIANS of Solomon, or in other words satans servants!

Aside of the G for Ghouls or Gnols or Gargoyles or a god that is satan!
Should we call them Gommoreans who build sin cities? Hiram the blacksmith of tyre or "hephaistos" of the vulcans,who the freemasons term as the Hiram Abiff or architect of Solomans temple,did not build the temple but rather the two pillars and all the decorations of hell like shovels,fleshooks,metallic webs,chains,stakes,forks,etc...


Scottish Rite, 32 and 33 degrees.The Double Headed Hermaphrodite Eagle of Satan.

There are records of lodges conferring the degree of "Scots Master" or "Scotch Master" as early as 1733. A lodge at Temple Bar in London is the earliest such lodge on record. Other lodges include a lodge at Bath in 1735, and the French lodge, St. George de l'Observance No. 49 at Covent Garden in 1736.

17 stars left 16 stars right = 33 or 8 + 7 = 15 = 6
17 x 16 = 272 = 11 (satanism law,Do what thou wilt...)
4 loopholes on the belt strap. 4 x 33 = 132 = 6
8 feathers on the hermaphrodite eagles tail.
Eagle grasps a crooked sword in it's talons of 6
15 feathers left wing,13 feathers right wing = 28=10, 15 x 13=195=15=6
7 ruby's in crown = satan's 7 light year size
Golden horns of satan topped by an orb and an Egyptian Ankh = Evil.
33 rays of the sun, 33 as satan's eye in the golden pyramid.
33 x 33 = 1089 = 18 = 9, 33x33x33 = 35937 = 27 = 9 (9 = God)
9 divided by 3 = 3 = God
Opposed to God = 3 divided by 9 = .333333333...

The Threes are the two serpents (male and female) who entwine to form the hermaphrodite serpent like their eagle.
When faced together the two threes make an 8,satan's true number of H or 888.

666 = servants of satan.

DEUS MEUMQUE JUS" "God that is My Right"

Doc Marquis says this statement is a typical one within Satanism. There is one meaning within another with this statement. The first meaning is that the Freemason can depend upon their God to determine their Right and Justice. The second meaning is, since the God of Freemasonry is Lucifer, Masons are saying that they are "using occult methods," through Lucifer, to achieve their Rights and Justice. This phrase is very powerful and dangerous within Saanism says Marquis. A Satanist knows the content within Pike's book is Satanism just by reading, "DEUS MEUMQUE JUS." They don't even have to read the book, just the phrase to know.

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Henry Andrew Francken traveled to New York in 1767 where he granted a Patent, dated 26 December 1767, for the formation of a Lodge of Perfection at Albany, which was called "Ineffable Lodge of Perfection." This marked the first time the Degrees of Perfection (the 4th through the 14th) were conferred in one of the thirteen British colonies.

It was revived by Giles Fonda Yates about 1820 or 1821.

While in New York, Francken also communicated the degrees to Moses Michael Hays, a Jewish businessman, and appointed him a Deputy Inspector General. In 1781, Hays made eight Deputy Inspectors General, four of whom were later important in the establishment of Scottish Rite Freemasonry in South Carolina: Isaac Da Costa Sr., D.I.G. for South Carolina; Abraham Forst, D.I.G. for Virginia; Joseph M. Myers, D.I.G. for Maryland; and Barend M. Spitzer, D.I.G. for Georgia.

Officially, the Supreme Council, 33°, N.M.J. dates itself from May 15, 1867. This was the date of the "Union of 1867," when it merged with the competing Cerneau "Supreme Council" in New York. The current Ancient and Accepted Scottish Rite, Northern Masonic Jurisdiction of the United States, was thus formed.

6th Degree - Master of the Brazen Serpent
9,10,11 = Elu 9,15,12.
13 = Royal Arch of Solomon (9th arch)
14 = Perfect Elu
16 = Prince of Jerusalem
18 = Knight Rose Croix (Herod's council of Kadosh)
19 = Grand Pontiff
22 = Knight of the Royal Axe or Prince of Libanus.

23 = Chief of the Tabernacle
24 = Prince of the Tabernacle,Brother of the Forest

25 = Knight of the Brazen Serpent or Master Achievement
27 = Knight of the Sun,Prince Adept or Knight of Jerusalem

30 = Knight Kadosh,knight of the white/black eagle, Grand inspector
31 = inspector inquisitor
32 = Master of the Royal Secret,Knight Aspirant
33 = Inspector General

"Kadosh" is derived from the Hebrew word which means holy or consecrated

USA

Scottish Rite Cathedral in Indianapolis, IndianaIn the United States of America there are two Supreme Councils: one in Washington, D.C. (which controls the Southern Jurisdiction), and one in Lexington, Massachusetts (which controls the Northern Masonic Jurisdiction).

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Mainly the top or 5% of Masons worship lucifer.
Superior masons deliberately lie to their fellow masons as they are deserving to be mislead.

95% of Masons are told the wrong explanation.

Rituals or Oaths are performed in the presence of demon spirits that masons are unaware of and think they are just role playing.

Masonry is identical to Ancient Mystery schools of satanism or the craft of the underworld like Anubis and Egypt or Horus or the Corinthians of Greece and the Eleusian Mysteries,or the Baachic rites.

"Thou shall have no other Gods before Me".

Freemasons do not recognize Jesus The Christ as superior but inferior like the Judaens.

Satanic symbols like Baphomet etc,are commonplace within the Phraternity just like the oil paintings that represent each degree has an unknown meaning to the general populace of freemasons or that they are actualy taking steps or degrees towards satan.

The Rose of 5 petals is to be centered in the hexagram to make it 11.
Thus the Rosie Croix or rose was common in royalty dedicated to satan.

The Rose's true meaning is "deception" because it symbolizes a truth with a lie, that is a beautiful RED flower with THORNS.

Freemason government buildings are full of occultic symbols like Gargoyles,demonic faces,pentagrams,magic squares,circles,keys,etc.

The 6 x 6 magic square of Albrecht Dhurer is on the ceiling of master masonic temples. The 13 is in the northeast or top right corner as the foundation stone for their buildings or city plans. The date of 1514 is centered on the bottom of the square. This was also the time of John Dee the famous occultist as well as relating to Dhurer.

The northeast corner looks to their master plan of trying to empower satan to steal the Holy Grail or Chalice of The Christ upon his ascension as seen in my hubble telescope picture of The Secret of Carina Nebula,that they and their evil wizards were trying to hide from God in the darkness.

Thus I revealed it in connection to God's Mind as I also revealed God's truth of who He IS as JA MN and His True Garden in Tansania.

Thus satan fell into the pit of kHenYA as my photo's clearly show.

The Truth Shall Set Us Umans Free!

That is how I merit the title "Obsidian Dragon Slayer" alike your pictures of St.George slew the Dragon! Jorge is my second name!

The Bible Code and Nostradamus predict all of my works as the true "Scorpion King" that I am. In other words the 5 that governed the 3(Christ) and the 8 (satan). I raised one to return to His Papa,rescued your cup (OVAL LIGHT - Chalice) and descended the other!

If people really understood that Masonry is the worship of Satan, no one in their right mind would join and they should all be imprisoned for a life sentence of 25 years with no parole,while the top should be executed in public view, including the Red Shields and friends.

Why do you think John F. Kennedy was murdered by them?
Remember his speech about secret societies?

And you wonder why they are afraid of Conspiracists who have two eyes to see the truth!

They can run but there is no where for them to hide and nothing at all is secret. God's servants know secrets too and even more!

The freemasons like the ZMO are nothing but rotten defiled children destined for the pit of kenya where there tombstones are already engraved!

satan never could keep a promise like yahweh, could it?
You ZAidiots swore oaths in front of demons! Don't ever think you can join them with the intent of spying...phool for the G-houls!

Or should I say GIBLIANS OF ELIZA's LIBANUS TEMPLE of HELL and OB HARLOTS! Phree mother satans' sons? Phree = Phanes = satan.

Freemasonry gives itself away more through its symbols than it does in its writings. You saw in the analogy page of "The Matrix" that high level Masons praise Lucifer. It is within these writings the "smoking gun" will be found, proof that Masons worship Satan.

The average Mason is continually saying that he is "seeking the Light," and will spend his entire life "moving toward the Light."

People who haven't studied this subject would assume that this "Light" is the revelation of the God of the Bible. This statement is continuously held up to try to convince us that Masonry is Christian. In the above quote, Albert Pike is saying that Lucifer is the One who bears the Light of Freemasonry.

The sentence immediately preceding confirms not only that Lucifer is the Light-bearer, but that Masons of previous degrees have been led to believe that the opposite was true.

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11 measurement lines on either side of the square = 9:11.

Statement of the masonic rite of kadosh.

The lesson of this degree is to be true to ourselves, to stand for what is right and just in our lives today. To believe in God, country and ourselves."


How Ironic is that? Right John F.Kennedy?

The halls of hippocracy have been over flooded!

Freemasonery is a clever German Jewish invention of the ZAionist servants of iZrAel for the Red Shields of the ZMO or Zionist Masonic Oligarchy = NWO.

Line up freemasons,you're getting closer to the light....of the pit of khenyah where your master fell and is Zealed...permanently!

PNAC was the think tank for the Red Shields like APAIC also combined with the freemasons, they did 911 for the Rothchilds and friends of Satan!

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Second law upon the pillar of Orichalcum.

All and any property of evil families and especially the ZMO are to be frozen,seized and distributed to all the good people of Earth!
Leaders of the ZMO and 19 and above degrees freemasons are to be executed in public viewing and lower members imprisoned 25 years with no parole.
This includes all organizations or businesses affiliated with them disguised as other cults like the OTO,Templars,Rosicrucians,Jesuit priests,Golden Dawn,church of satan,knights of malta, etcetera and heads of government controlled by them and their affiliated staff and the current Pope and staff aware of these facts.

Plus you owe back taxes from all my lands of Atlantis,that includes the Americas,Africa,Europe,Asia,Australia and pretty much this entire planet!
Which is why you suppress and hide our truths!

This wealth is to be distributed among all the good people worthy of merit as per Law One of the Orichalcum pillar afore mentioned.

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Signed; King Paulo Riven and God JA MN.

Sword of Avila
Obsidian Dragon Slayer
Sniper of the Asp
Opener of the Ways
Waterer of the Garden of Avila
Ascender of the Son of God
Rescuer of the Chalice of The Oval Light
Revealer of Revelations
Breaker of The Seals of Lies
The Argo Wind - white Dragon
Scorpion King of The Double Falcons
Riven The Seer and Royal Bloodline of Atlantis

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SaJAra
AeJOR MN
Son of JA MN

By the Grace of Face upon the Babe in your true Garden of Avila.

AMEN

Sunday,July 11,2010 / 8492.aJA.
11:07pm

aejor_mn
13-07-2010, 08:08 PM
The think tank behind this was PNAC of which Paul Wolfewitz was a member of this group. I think Dick Cheney and Robert Zoeller may also have been involved alike 911.

PNAC was set up by the ZMO for the Red Shields of the Red Dragon, Rothchilds,Israel and friends. Their plans like all the others before of murdering,plundering and stealing your lands,finances and everything else as your world wars and terrorist acts confirm, also involved Iraq,Afghanistan,911 and now Iran of course!

Wolfewitz was the Secretary of Defense for Bush, who after 911 got promoted to World Bank Head currently held by the other German Jew or ZMO Robert Zoeller. Dick Cheney, Gulliani, Pataki and the New Jersey Port Authority were all involved along with Bush and Osama Bin Laden.

Remember Saddam Hussein and Osama bin Laden are the fake names chosen for the new fraudulent president Baraq Hussein Obama as a means to ease the tensions and show how stupid the American public generally is, while irregardless the votes would have been doctored anyway!

Aside of the fact that Israel whores America as a Pimp for the Red Shields and the ZMO that involve the satanic freemasons, or that Israeli companies like all the german jewish moles within the FBI,CIA,NSA,NASA,OSS,SSS, or any security intelligence or phone and internet companies are all held by them!

Thus you see it as "Jews did 911" while the truth is the ZMO or Germans with the Jews as Ash -ke-Nazi's did 911 with PNAC. The APAIC or lobbyists are also involved in their "foreign influence" and siphoning all your money aside of already owning your money!

In Canada,a CSIS top official is getting ridiculed by "their press" for revealing and being concerned about "foreign influence" within the canadian governments as an example of their anti-semetic bulldoodoo!

Of course this CSIS official is entirely correct as we all know about the "Horned Crown Commonwealth Countries" of the servants to the Red Dragon anyway and the Red Shields!

That is why the Canadian Parliament Peace Clock tower face shows the satanic star of david and the US seal of 13 stars also!

Alike the Black Prince Charles being chained to the Red Dragon on his shield!

How 911 worked with the Rothchilds in London and Zurich was through the Scots Masonic Master lodges based out of Massachussets and Washington of which Guilliani is a top member for the New York Masons, if not the head of New york Masons.

Why do you think they Chose Boston Logan Airport?

PNAC mysteriously disappeared right after 911 as strangely as they appeared!

911 is not just an inside job but mainly an outside job of the ZMO for the Red Shields!

Remember Kennedy's speech about "secret societies"

Guess you know why they murdered him too!

aejor_mn
14-07-2010, 02:03 PM
Jasa, as ALL the sons are named for a Son of God or JA-SA;
was not a hebrew nor a jew, nor of those lands of blasphemy and of satan disguised as yahweh or many others like the prophet nathanel of solomons hermes guidance for evils in their temple and house of libanus like his father david and abraham. For Jasa or Jesus as you know Him by even told you this in the book of lies and truth in John 8.

Jesus did not die for our sins, but for their sins and those who are evil.
Why should Jesus die for us who are worthy and why would our true God allow Jesus to die in the first place?

Because their evil magic learned from Voodoo Khenya and then Egypt unto them, was very,very powerful. Powerful enough for satan to be the main opponent against God.

Even satan's father is not impressed with it. Good and Bad must be, but evil not, and satan was pure evil and it's energy in size growing from the evil followers or acts of evil. Thus world wars, blood sacrifices, 911,terrorism etc.
It's not the shedding of the blood, but the act of the evil that empowered it.

Jesus was a satanic ritual by them with the black suns on their head who worship the grounds and stones and rule the ZMO or NWO as you know them by.

This ritual occurred before on Dec.10th at 8:08am in 3474.bC by the Evil Snoferu and Khufu to the previous Son of God known as Philitis the Shepherd.
Huni, snoferu's father was also possessed by satan and he desired to be his own God and denounced AMEN or MIN who IS JA MN, the first God of Egypt also when it was a decent Atlantean state. Huni was also a cannibal and that is why you read those underworld texts of Anubis, the jackal of Sirius,like the book of the dead or the pyramid texts or the 72 figures of Osiris that carried on into Phoenicia and Arabia as the 72 priests, 72 sephiroths of khabaalah and the 72 virgins of lies!

Prior to Huni, and the one who started this satanic Goat Worship of Mendes and the first to Worship the Sun with satanic rituals from khenya was Raneb. Thus Ra, the solar calendar, the sun temples all came into play ca.2700.bC.

That is why Khufu was cursed for 150 years with plagues and was the pharaoh of Exodus, for you see, the Hebrons really descend from Khufu's lineage and are masters of the black arts of evil worshippers for Zathanel Hatuptah or ZA or satan,lucifer,azazel or the many other faces it has. For it could never tell what it was or who it was and was eternally cursed and confused as a hermaphrodite.

Hebron was around the same time as khufu, and later they returned after 2000.bC and more specificaly after the Santorini,Thera eruption that crippled the eastern mediterranean, took advantage of that alike the Mycenaens upon the Minoans and the Hyksos went into Egypt and slaughtered everyone and ruled for 500 years.

Then they were finally driven out by Ahmose I, where they settled in Jerusalem as the Hebrews who became classified ca.1300.bC or the Phoenicians who are also from Egypt. But in truth they,like us all descend from the True Garden of Avila in Tansania, or our out of africa theory.
This was our second garden while our original garden was on the island of Atlantis in the Atlantic, or God's Foremost Island as it was known by ALL!

This was due to two great floods, one at 6482.bC and ca.3250.bC.

Now these Phoenicians who you think were friendly and expanded around the mediterranean, were in fact on a mission of continuing their evil ways of slaughtering, plundering and pillaging......just as they still do today as the Ashkenazi's or German Jews of the NWO or ZMO. Being the Zionist Masonic Oligarchy who work for the head of the Phoenicians that we know by the term of Red Shields or Red Dragons, the Rothchilds and friends.

The same people who have been murdering, pillaging and plundering our lands our countries our welfare our finances and with the purpose of more energies of souls for satan and it's duality sekhmet as seen in my Carina Nebula picture.


So remember, that is not our God in the bible but satan in disguies for it was a liar, and murder and a vain and jealous entity just as it's name portrays which also was a disguise of JA who they knew as YA or more specifically as IAO in their Phoenician times. IAO is JAO is JA MN.

And Jesus died for their sins and the blood stains are upon their heads, not ours who are worthy of good or bad reasoning but never evil.

The evil ones carry that bloodstain also and their tombs are already engraved for the pit of the calling where satan fell in kHenYAH.
For that was it's lands as the Rothchilds also have a Giraffe Manor their.

If you read about Solomon in kings 1,2 and his temple and especially that house in the forest (witches hut) of Libanus (Lebanon), you will realize that they all were satanic ritual places and Joab was murdered in the temple of solomon by solomon's order! Imagine that!

This supposed god yahweh, commands solomon to build a temple to god, then solomon murders a man in there for not worshipping solomon and for taking the satanic horn of oil from the alter!

solomon also killed things in front of that unholy ark of the covenant to that god satan in disguise!

solomon also killed his own brother Adonais, because he asked his mother to ask solomon if he could marry a woman who was his dead father's friend and very beautiful! By right, Adonais was entitled to the throne that his mother and all of israel knew very well!

See it was satan as nathanel the prophet that made solomon build the temple for his own purpose and nathanel also made sure that Adonais didn't get in the way! nathanel > ZAthanel? nathanel also had a son named ZAbud.

No doubt! Since Zanah means whore in hebrew like it's last name was hatuptah or hat of a putah meaning hat of a whore! A black hat that is clearly seen in my pictures of khenya. That is why their rabbis wear black hats or black suns on their heads!

Because of the satanic ritual of exchanging the 3 by the 5 for the 8...see?
Or the Golden Orus for the Black Horus!

See why they said Jesus arose on the 3rd day? The 5 was the pentagram ritual that changes the star into the evil star of david (devils) or a hexagram portal for demons and satan! Who was really the 8 or 888, not 666! That number was for it's servants, the ZMO who did 911 with PNAC!

And who is next to ascend to the Red Dragons throne of the Rothchilds? The real Anti-Christ.....the youngest Rothchild....NATHANEL!


Response to awakentired's comment in my God Wants You To Know Him thread at abovetopsecret forums;

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No. The injustice is soon to be countered. The 2012 change of life that this planet takes is to spread the wealth to all of Earth's children equally.
The only way that's going to happen awakentired is when this Earth realizes it's true king who has yet to choose 9 other kings plus a Queen.

If you study some of my other threads like "Why are the NWO satanic", you will notice exactly that is what I would propose to do by my first two laws and rid this earth of the ZMO and evil.

First people need to realize that nothing is coincidence and everything has meaning......

Then they might realize why God placed my face upon His Garden in Tansania 10,000 mile away from me and all the other "Signs" of God's mind...

as His Son.

Or why the bible code and Nostradamus also predict me.

Or why a mouse can overcome an Elephant as to I and that 7 light year in size leviathan that fell from my mind with God for the Truth that I revealed upon God and upon us all.

The Truth Did Set Us Free.........

And our Chalice of The Oval Light was rescued......

thus I also died as a teenager for God's purpose unknown.


What this Earth needs more than ever is to return to our True God JA MN...

Then they will see His Son........waiting.

aejor_mn
16-07-2010, 02:42 AM
Here is your ANTI-CHRIST;

Like Father/Mother Zathanel Hatuptah or Satan so the son carries on the name by flipping the Z to an N like NWO to ZMO!

Nathanel the prophet was satan (ZA-thanel) in disguise to david and solomon.

Thus the name is carried on by the Red Dragon Servants of satan....

Nathanel de Rothchilds - future H-ead of the ZMO...The Anti-Christ.

http://aftermathnews.files.wordpress.com/2009/08/nathaniel-rothschild.jpg


Notice the resemblance?

http://sites.google.com/site/tribesofatlantis/_/rsrc/1255416525919/Home/the-garden-of-eden/The%20Ga26.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/tribesofatlantis/Home/the-garden-of-eden/The%20Ga28.jpg

http://sites.google.com/site/tribesofatlantis/Home/the-garden-of-eden/Satan%27s_death_Riven09.bmp

kbeet
22-08-2010, 02:00 AM
The Climate Change Hoax

“It would seem that men and women need a common motivation, namely a common adversary, to organize and act together in the vacuum such as motivation seemed to have ceased to exist or have yet to be found. The need for enemies seems to be a common historical factor…

Bring the divided nation together to face an outside enemy, either a real one or else one invented for the purpose…

Democracy will be made to seem responsible for the lagging economy, the scarcity and uncertainties. The very concept of democracy could then be brought into question and allow for the seizure of power by extremists of one brand or the other…

In searching for a new enemy to unite us, we came up with the idea that pollution, the threat of global warming, water shortages, famine and the like would fit the bill. The real enemy [of the elites and their minions] then is humanity itself.”

- “The First Global Revolution” (1991) published by the Club of Rome. Members of the Club of Rome include: Al Gore, Jimmy Carter, Bill Gates, George Soros and author of the Kyoto Protocols Maurice Strong.




The Purpose of The Banking System ;

"The Power of financial capitalism had [a] far reaching plan, nothing less than to create a world system of financial control in private hands able to dominate the political system of each country and the economy of the world as a whole.
This system was to be controlled in a feudalistic fashion by the central banks of the world acting in concert, by secret agreements arrived at in frequent meetings and conferences.

The apex of the system was to be the Bank for International Settlements in Basel, Switzerland, a private bank owned and controlled by the world's central banks, which were themselves private corporations.

Each central bank sought to dominate its government by its ability to control treasury loans, to manipulate foreign exchanges, to influence the level of economic activity in the country, and to influence co-operative politicians by subsequent rewards in the business world."

Carrol Quigley, Tragedy and Hope, 1966 - Bill Clinton's mentor and Georgetown University professor




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is there a way to just make a short post with facts and lookups for proof in just sevral lines. i hate reading a long post i tend to not read it all

kappy0405
22-08-2010, 02:58 AM
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skywokker
16-09-2010, 07:49 PM
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ladybird
07-12-2010, 11:14 AM
In fact this whole thread is proof for the NWO:

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=145253&page=6

I should have chosen another title ...

:cool:

fender93
15-12-2010, 10:00 PM
I was in my a-level history class the other day; when I picked up a book entitled American history: Key Events since 1945. I then flicked to the back of the book (for no particular reason) and discovered; to my amazement; an entire chapter entitled "George W Bush Introduces New World Order". I was amazed that something so important was just left to gather dust on a shelf. The rest of the class; including the teacher; thought nothing of this. how can these people dismiss and ridicule people who say this is coming; when they have blinding evidence of it right in front of them? I did not get the chance to read the whole chapter; but Father Bush openly mentioned invading Iraq to steal their oil reserves and a one world government. If only people had the sense to wake up and take notice of what is right in front of them. This is not the first time I have noticed a reference to the NWO in school books. One day whilst sat in English the guy sat next to me was reading sections from his text-book; when those three words perked up my ears. I asked him to repeat what it just said; "There is no evidence that a sequel is planned; as the remaining characters must regroup and prepare for a New World Order". This to me feels like the Illuminati rubbing it into my face. Even though I have the knowledge; I cannot spread the word because I know what will happen. And those around me won't notice it themselves as they are too caught up in what is happening in Easten-Ders; and whose winning X-Factor. honestly; any more time around these people and I might just lose it. WAKE UP!!!:mad:

blackknigh0
06-07-2011, 01:08 AM
I have tried telling my closest familiy about all this, time and time again. It's been around 2 years now...and still only my mom seems more and more curious about it. But it's comforting, knowing that she thinks about what I say to her.

toxicvibes
06-07-2011, 07:34 AM
I have tried telling my closest familiy about all this, time and time again. It's been around 2 years now...and still only my mom seems more and more curious about it. But it's comforting, knowing that she thinks about what I say to her.


When i realized my family does not believe a word that i say about the NWO and other related stuff, i`ve opened a blog and started posting news that i consider relevant, mainly from DI headlines, but other sources too. The reaction was almost instant and they are like "Hey what`s your blog doing? Any new articles?" Even my grandmother asked me to translate some of the posts :)

And the funny thing is that if i forwarded them the Headlines here they would have never read it.
You see? It`s all about cheating perception, just like the elites are doing right now :D

amerocasnewworldorder_com
30-11-2011, 04:57 AM
Proof of a World Government for the coming New Age
"Novus Ordo Seclorum" translates to "A New Order of the Ages" which translates to "A Secular (Earthly/Pagan) Order for the New Age of Aquarius (starting in 2012).
"E Pluribus Unum" translates to "Out of many, one" which translates to global oneness
http://www.amerocasnewworldorder.com

ainvision
18-01-2012, 12:27 PM
Nick Romney will become the Republican candidate for the US President and he will lose. Obama will run again with Hilary Clinton as Vice Presidential nominee and they will win. Obama will be assassinated before the year ends and Hilary Clinton will become President. The assassin will be either a White Supremacist red-neck, a Muslim Fundamentalist (probably from Iran) or a North Korean/Chinese wacko.

Why is this so?
1. The USA needs another 'war' to keep the returning troops from Iraq employed and take the strain off the economy in their own country. The US economy is at least 25% dependent on arms manufacture and sales.
2. The USA is 'overdue' in astrological and numerological terms for a successful presidential assassination.
3. Hilary Clinton wants to be the first female US President particularly after watching the 'Iron Maiden' film about Margaret Thatcher with Meryl Streep and having to meet with Julia (Ju-Liar) Gillard of Australia.
4. It will give the 'new' President all the reasons to institute excessive gun restriction laws and advance the 'police state' ideology in the USA.
5. The military-industrial complex needs another catastrophe on home soil to promote their New World Order agenda.

I know I said this 4 years ago but let's see if I'm right this time. Anyway, I'm off to meditate to The Who's "I Can See For Miles And Miles' :D

As for 'Global Warming', statistics show that 1998 was the hottest year on record and the planet has been cooling off since then. The Earth's magnetic activity has decreased dramatically as well since it is linked to the great reduction in solar flare activity also since 1998. I was taught that solar flare cycles were 13 years apart not 11.6 years. Let's see who's right since we're due some pretty high activity very soon :(

ainvision
09-04-2012, 01:43 PM
Now, Mr Icke and many others have talked about and written about the 'Elite' or 'Powers That Be' but one side, quite probably the most technologically advanced and ruthless, have been forgotten from the equation... The Nazis!

Let's meet the players:
1. The Western plutocrats which are made up of Khazar Jews and their lineage in Europe (the Bauers aka the Rothschild clan) and the American Rockefellers with their fraternities.
2. The Western Oligarchies which are the monarchies and the remnants of fallen, but still incredibly wealthy, European royal houses.
3. The Eastern Oligarchies such as the ancestors of Chinese royal lineages, the Triads and the Japanese Yakuza houses.
4. The forgotten but still very evident in South America, the spawn of the Nazis.

Yes, they exist! Many live out happy and productive lives in the 2 most southern states in Brazil, Santa Catarina and Rio Grande de Sul. I know this because I've been there several times while I lived in Brazil. They also live in places like San Carlos de Bariloche in Argentina. I've met them too!

They may well be plotting to take over the world as authors like Joseph Farrell suggest but I found them to be very amiable though most would not speak of their history. Go there for a visit particularly if you speak German since that is the language they speak at home and only begrudgingly speak Spanish and Portuguese when in public.

San Carlos de Bariloche - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia