Drugs :O

[gullick]

What are your opinions? The question isn't narrowed down much I know, but its not meant to be.

In other words, do you see all drugs as bad, some drugs as bad, no drugs as bad, them and he drugs as though?

[phoebe]

Before anyone else says it
I'll say it...
Drugs are bad mmm'kay?

Drugs aren't good or bad
It's what you do with them
Like everything else.
If you use them to enjoy/experience
It's all good.
When they become your reason for living
And they begin to use you
That's when it can go pearshaped.

I like pure mdma.
Yeah its manufactured but such a lovely drug.

[thetonic]

What are your opinions? The question isn't narrowed down much I know, but its not meant to be.

In other words, do you see all drugs as bad, some drugs as bad, no drugs as bad, them and he drugs as though?

If you are going to place a value system on things in this world then yes.. There are good and bad to everything and everyone...

[28th kingdom]

Let me guess... you smoke pot, right? And, yer looking for a way to rationalize it, right? Look... man, anything can be considered a drug... I find myself eating at times... when I'm bored and want a chemical change in my body... so when I eat food (healthy or not) like that and for those reasons... I'm using it like a drug.

The worst part about smoking cigarettes... or drinking alcohol... is that yer engaging in mindless behavior... you know the only reason yer doing it - is to fit into some social circle. That's what drugs are all about... the elite use drugs... and make them COOL... so that kids will fvcking kill themselves using them. It's a fun lil' game they like to play with us.

So... that's why all drugs are bad... because they're designed to kill yer brain... which affects yer mind... and yer ability to be mindful... and harness yer true power... anyway - I'm sure someone will come along and claim LSD is a spiritual experience... so whatever.

[thetonic]

Before anyone else says it


I like pure mdma.
Yeah its manufactured but such a lovely drug.

:D

[chris]

I got very much caught up in them. I later quit most drugs but still stayed in the counter culture type of mentality. I think it's complete BS that cannabis is good for you, from experience and many other people I know have had really bad problems from it. Although I did have some really positive experiences, I guess there is no black or white area. Prolonged use of it though I've found has never worked.

I've done all kinds of psychadelics and now I'm pretty fed up of them, I try now for natural highs like meditation, fasting and health. Still, what am I to say what's right or wrong, people need to experience and learn so good luck to them.

[phoebe]

:D

Beautiful...

http://nepenthes.lycaeum.org/images/mdma.jpg

[synak]

Prisons are a way of them gaining free labor for various corporations by creating the supposed 'crimes' when they import drugs into the streets then force us to use and sell their products. They seize the material again during the 'drug busts' put it back on the street and reap the profits. The murder, violence, psychological trauma, and fear that this breeds further distracts our minds along with materialism.
.

[herebynightfall]

The artificial white sugar that's in everything sweet these days...
... worst drug on the market

Little kids get buzzed from age 3 and are addicted for life.

[chris]

Let me guess... you smoke pot, right?


LOL, been there! I could come up with every excuse under the sun why it's bad while high but I would always forget them as soon as I came down...I'm sure most people who go around saying it's good for you have many people they know who have a real problem with it.

Food is a real drug I shoot up on often...I will stop the cravings soon...

[eat_a_grey]

I think that heroin,meth and crack are like the plague.

I have lost my mother to a heroin overdose,nothing worse than watching your mother die from smack.:mad::mad: Not to mention I have lost many friends from heroin overdoses,no fewer than 10 easy!!

So I have a very up close an personal hatred of smack for obvious reasons.(And yes I too have tried this before)

Now,all of this being said,pot is really nothing imho.To me I find it very relaxing.

Psychedelics,I see these as a gateway to other areas of your mind,and personally,I think everyone should dose at least once in their life.

[28th kingdom]

I like pure mdma.
Yeah its manufactured but such a lovely drug.

Yea... ecstasy... one of God's little miracles... it's like a wonder drug, this thing - it fortifies bones, cures ADD, suppresses herpes outbreaks... Coconut oil, ain't got shit on X. Plus, it eats holes in yer fvcking brain... which are cool to look at on a brainscan.

Good Times.

[revolutionary_jam]

it's how you use them that counts

[thetonic]

it fortifies bones, cures ADD, suppresses herpes outbreaks.

Good Times.


Really? I wasnt aware it was supposed to do these things, man im gonna go pop an E right now! I bet half the things you ate today dont do any of that either..And who the fuck said that Herpes , AIDS , ADD are supposed to be CURED anyway... MAYBE THAT IS NATURES WAY OF POPULATION CONTROL? YOU DONT KNOW , I DONT KNOW otherwise you would have all the answers which you dont!

[gullick]

Let me guess... you smoke pot, right? And, yer looking for a way to rationalize it, right?

Nope, not at all. I have my own opinions on drugs and do use natural psychedelics and pure MDMA purely because of the fact E was a massive life changer for me. I had the uncommon experience on MDMA which is hallucinations. Ever since then I realized the power of the human mind and that our inner is not much different from the outer, only with more possibility

I don't need anything rationalized, others opinions won't effect my own unless they make really good points.

I rarely smoke pot nowadays, I put a joint on my SP pic because I do it sometimes and it was also one of the things which shaped who I am now (I was a heavy smoker back in the day, and it was always good - making me see things a lot differently and contributing to interesting convos - until the weed started to get stupidly strong)

I have no problems with -
Weed,
MDMA,
Acid,
Shrooms (not tried :( )

I have done others including cocaine in the past but can't stand it anymore, its a joke and makes people idiots IMO.

[phoebe]

Yea... ecstasy... one of God's little miracles... it's like a wonder drug, this thing - it fortifies bones, cures ADD, suppresses herpes outbreaks... Coconut oil, ain't got shit on X. Plus, it eats holes in yer fvcking brain... which are cool to look at on a brainscan.

Good Times.

lol
The E Eats holes in your brain thing is total bullshite.
Or at least the particular study claiming it does
Was proved to be.
That study was done by the US Government...
Go figure.

http://www.erowid.org/chemicals/mdma/mdma_neurotoxicity3.shtml

I've been a user of ecstacy for 15 years
Nothing wrong with my brain ta very much.

[auron]

Not all drugs are good ya know??? Some of them are great! :D

[phoebe]

Not all drugs are good ya know??? Some of them are great! :D

haha yeah
I know which ones you think are great.
Drove by your house last night
And took this pic of your car.
Planning a long trip?

:D

http://www.statepatrol.ohio.gov/media/2002/02-0003.jpg

[auron]

Not guilty your honor.

[whitenight639]

Bill Hicks - Positive Drug Story - YouTube

[2013]

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=10862
This guy seems to think so .good that is
Francis Crick, the Nobel Prize-winning father of modern genetics, was under the influence of LSD when he first deduced the double-helix structure of DNA nearly 50 years ago.

The abrasive and unorthodox Crick and his brilliant American co-researcher James Watson famously celebrated their eureka moment in March 1953 by running from the now legendary Cavendish Laboratory in Cambridge to the nearby Eagle pub, where they announced over pints of bitter that they had discovered the secret of life.

Crick, who died ten days ago [2004-07-28], aged 88, later told a fellow scientist that he often used small doses of LSD, then an experimental drug used in psychotherapy, to boost his powers of thought. He said it was LSD, not the Eagle's warm beer, that helped him to unravel the structure of DNA, the discovery that won him the Nobel Prize.

Despite his Establishment image, Crick was a devotee of novelist Aldous Huxley, whose accounts of his experiments with LSD and another hallucinogen, mescaline, in The Doors Of Perception and Heaven And Hell became cult texts for the hippies of the Sixties and Seventies. In the late Sixties, Crick was a founder member of Soma, a legalise-cannabis group named after the drug in Huxley's novel Brave New World. He even put his name to a famous letter to The Times in 1967 calling for a reform in the drugs laws.

It was through his membership of Soma that Crick inadvertently became the inspiration for the biggest LSD manufacturing conspiracy the world has ever seen the multimillion-pound drug factory in a remote farmhouse in Wales that was smashed by the Operation Julie raids of the late Seventies.

Crick's involvement with the gang was fleeting but crucial. The revered scientist had been invited to the Cambridge home of freewheeling American writer David Solomon, a friend of hippie LSD guru Timothy Leary, who had come to Britain in 1967 on a quest to discover a method for manufacturing pure THC, the active ingredient of cannabis.

It was Crick's presence in Solomon's social circle that attracted a brilliant young biochemist, Richard Kemp, who soon became a convert to the attractions of both cannabis and LSD. Kemp was recruited to the THC project in 1968, but soon afterwards devised the world's first foolproof method of producing cheap, pure LSD. Solomon and Kemp went into business, manufacturing 'acid' in a succession of rented houses before setting up their laboratory in a cottage on a hillside near Tregaron, Carmarthenshire, in 1973. It is estimated that Kemp manufactured drugs worth £2.5 million — an astonishing amount in the Seventies — before police stormed the building in 1977 and seized enough pure LSD and its constituent chemicals to make two million LSD 'tabs'.

The arrest and conviction of Solomon, Kemp and a string of co-conspirators dominated the headlines for months. I was covering the case as a reporter at the time and it was then that I met Kemp's close friend, Garrod Harker, whose home had been raided by police but who had not been arrested. Harker told me that Kemp and his girlfriend Christine Bott by then in jail were hippie idealists who were completely uninterested in the money they were making.

They gave away thousands to pet causes such as the Glastonbury pop festival and Release.

"They have a philosophy," Harker told me at the time. "They believe industrial society will collapse when the oil runs out and that the answer is to change people's mindsets using acid. They believe LSD can help people to see that a return to a natural society based on self-sufficiency is the only way to save themselves.

"Dick Kemp told me he met Francis Crick at Cambridge. Crick had told him that some Cambridge academics used LSD in tiny amounts as a thinking tool, to liberate them from preconceptions and let their genius wander freely to new ideas. Crick told him he had perceived the double-helix shape while on LSD.

"It was clear that Dick Kemp was highly impressed and probably bowled over by what Crick had told him. He told me that if a man like Crick, who had gone to the heart of human existence, had used LSD, then it was worth using. Crick was certainly Dick Kemp's inspiration."


Shortly afterwards I visited Crick at his home, Golden Helix, in Cambridge. He listened with rapt, amused attention to what I told him about the role of LSD in his Nobel Prize-winning discovery. He gave no intimation of surprise. When I had finished, he said: "Print a word of it and I'll sue."

[rossus]

the people on which drugs have a "bad" effect often don't know (they're blinded)
or they don't want to know.

on me it had a positive effect because it allowed me to have very clear awareness and see through my ego bullshit very fast.
i took some mdma or some LSD, and i very soon remembered that all the drama is there cause i created it myself...

but when the drug effect was over, the ego slowly crawls back in front and i'm back where i was.
so i decided to stop using drugs... so i could feel as happy as when on them all the time.
it's possible, just by being aware.

that which looks out through your eyes is you.
you = love = happiness

it was a hard decision to stop drugs.
cause it feels so good, and it's so innocent... so why not just "now and then?"

http://www.mimifroufrou.com/scentedsalamander/i/midnight-poison_pub_dior.jpg

but quitting them (for me, and probably for many) was a good decision...
cause i made much progress in selfrealization since stopping with the drugs.
they were definately holding me back and are definately holding many back.
are they holding everyone back? i don't know. maybe.

the one who want to have pleasure again and again, is not you.
but the pleasure addicted ego.

when you know who you are (which is happiness/love), you no longer need drugs.
pleasure and happiness are two different things.

pleasure isn't bad, but it's easy to get blinded by lust and lose your Self out of sight.
pleasure from drugs is even riskier because i feel they change your consciousness much more than masturbation or sugar...
making it more likely to lose control over the inner demons.

but, it depends what you want.
if you don't want to go all self-realisation style...
then drugs don't have to be that bad.

some mushrooms or pot now and then doesn't make that much more difference.
just know what you're doing.

(maybe they don't have to be bad even if you go all self-realization style.
but for many they are... possibly for all)

[megafish33]

Cocaine is quite possibly the most wonderful drug on the planet. I can't recommend it though. Someone like me did it a few times and decided to stop. Plus, the side effects can include death lol

Current addictions: Coffee and internet... both probably worse than coke lol

[2013]

cary grant the actor had such profound revelations on LSD that he held Acid pary'sat his mansion to introduce his friends to it as it helped hi msort out his inner demons .Cary grant on acid thats a movie i'd like to see :DWhen i was doing a psychology course i found an article ( not on the course ) about lsd when it wasnt illegal where they gave it to repeat offenders in the prison system in usa i think and most of them had such a connection thru it that they never re offended , wonder why they made it illegal ? Jacobs ladder excellent movie showing the down side like everything in this dualistic reality :DOne of the few times i took it i sat staring at a gold pattern for an eternity until i saw a child on the other side staring back at me then iremembered staring at the front gold panel of a radio constantly as a child , i could see from my trip point of viewme as a child and here my mother calling to see if i was ok i could see the whole room from my childhood, did i know i was inside the radio looking out ? or was it all in my mind or is my mind in all ? :D

[2013]

http://www.i-doser.com/

mp3 binuaral beats simulte many experiences agree internet is highly addictive , maybe same principle as i -doser

[auron]

http://www.i-doser.com/

mp3 binuaral beats simulte many experiences agree internet is highly addictive , maybe same principle as i -doser
I've heard of this for a while now. Have you tried it?? I'm a bit wary of fucking around with brainwave signals!

[2013]

http://img220.imageshack.us/img220/6342/suckeredinou2.jpg

:D

[auron]

Well fuck that!! I'm just stickin with the natural stuff! Thank you vey much!! :)

[2013]

I've heard of this for a while now. Have you tried it?? I'm a bit wary of fucking around with brainwave signals!

not yet got prog on pc now going to give it a try know what you mean about brainwaves though ,but worth a go as long as u programme your mind 1st into not being programmed i suppose but then why trust one exprerience and not another as danny the dealer from withnail and i would say Sit down man, find your
neutral space. You have done something to your brain. You have
made it high. If I lay 10 mills of diazipan on you, you will do
something else to your brain, you will make it low. Why trust one
drug rather than the other. That politics ain't it.
:D

[2013]

Natural and organic is always the way to go but if our brains respond to chemical electrical signals then ? its hard to say iwill give it a go i have done some healing tapes and meditation cd's with wicked results before full on visualisation even when i opened my eyes .Californian gut dick sutphen all blonde hair ,tan and teeth but good stuff if a somewhat annoying sounding voice .lent the healing tape to a mtes mum who was aggrophobic and it cure d her shes out and about all the time now , maybe just to avoid the sound of the voice lol . But stil lyou dont know till try , or maybe try it on an elderly relative during their afternoon nap here u go gran this will relax you NO ! mine are dead otherwise i probably would but she had a wicked sense of humour so wouldnt of minded im sure .:D torrent i recal reading has the prog it does a trial version

[skyver]

I've had deep experiences on LSD & MDMA but its definitely not for everyone.

[auron]

I've had experience with everything.

Stay with the natural ones guys!! They're our friends!!

Man made shit; stay away from!! :)

[strider]

I've had experience with everything.

Stay with the natural ones guys!! They're our friends!!

Man made shit; stay away from!! :)

For sure mate :D

As much as I used to love MDMA, you don't half fucking pay for it a few years later. Had some amazing times on it , but it's just synthetic and false in my opinion..

I think shrooms are the best thing going, though I rarely do them anymore :rolleyes:

[soglad]

http://www.bloodhoundrealty.com/BloodhoundBlog/MrMackey.gif
"Drugs are baaaadd......MMMKKAAAYYY!"

[auron]

For sure mate :D

As much as I used to love MDMA, you don't half fucking pay for it a few years later. Had some amazing times on it , but it's just synthetic and false in my opinion..

I think shrooms are the best thing going, though I rarely do them anymore :rolleyes:
Fuckin damn right mate!

Mushrooms are here for a reason!!!

Um?? take them??? :)

[soglad]

Fuckin damn right mate!

Mushrooms are here for a reason!!!

Um?? take them??? :)

I miss mushrooms :(

Heart chakra explosions for all!! WOOHOOO!!! :D:D:D

[phoebe]

For sure mate :D

As much as I used to love MDMA, you don't half fucking pay for it a few years later. Had some amazing times on it , but it's just synthetic and false in my opinion..

I think shrooms are the best thing going, though I rarely do them anymore :rolleyes:

What do you mean?
Have you experienced something you can
Attribute directly to taking E?

[auron]

I miss mushrooms :(

Heart chakra explosions for all!! WOOHOOO!!! :D:D:D

Well that's what happens when you take them?? So why the fuck have the "government" denied us that???? :confused:]

Kick!!!

[strider]

What do you mean?
Have you experienced something you can
Attribute directly to taking E?

Well in my experiences, I've had a much more powerful experience of bliss and love on shrooms, and the rest, and always wake up feeling refreshed as opposed to depressed for weeks after the MDMA has just stimulated the fuck out of one chemical in the brain (melatonin or something like that)

Shrooms are natural and just wake parts up in you that you've forgotten, and introduce you to a few more :D

[mad as a cat]

Ummmmm...here goes.
I don't take drugs, unless you count a dope cake about 25 years ago.
My recent experience is of my boyfriend dying in front of my young son,as I tried to save him. Kind of puts you off:(

[auron]

Shrooms are natural and just wake parts up in you that you've forgotten, and introduce you to a few more :D
It's so fucking simple isn't it???

You'll all understand one of these days!! :)

[strider]

It's so fucking simple isn't it???

You'll all understand one of these days!! :)

Yeah, cause me auron and soglad are going to turn the worlds water supply into one huge brew.. Hmm, now that would be an interesting spectacle :rolleyes:

[auron]

Yeah, cause me auron and soglad are going to turn the worlds water supply into one huge brew.. Hmm, now that would be an interesting spectacle :rolleyes:
Shhh!! Don't tell em! :) :D :cool:

[eternal_spirit]

Listen to those who love you the older and wiser ones like you're family when they say drugs are bad news. You'll understand that they are right when you are older.

[eternal_spirit]

party pooper but addiciton is one of the worst things a human can experience I know I've lived it.

[strider]

party pooper but addiciton is one of the worst things a human can experience I know I've lived it.

We were talking about doing mushrooms occasionally..

I'm pretty sure they're not addictive in the slightest..

[auron]

party pooper but addiciton is one of the worst things a human can experience I know I've lived it.
That's right!!! So don't get addicted!! :D

[freedomnonfighter]

I only "do" natural "drugs" - mushrooms and cannabis.

Big fan of the psychedelic experience here. :)

Though I do smoke cigarettes, but I'm kicking that habit pretty soon.. if I still feel the same way about it. But I live in the [only time] Now so generally I don't care about hologram-'health' :p

I'll do LSD on the occaision, but only for either a simple good time/laugh, or for improving on guitar, or for artistic purposes. It's kind of like going into the wilderness to look at the pretty flowers, and finding one you want to draw or paint.. and taking what you've learned back home with you.

Like Terence McKenna, and millions and millions of other people on this planet, I smoke cannabis on a daily basis (unless finances become an obstacle)... because well, why the hell wouldn't you? :)

[auron]

I only "do" natural "drugs" - mushrooms and cannabis.

Big fan of the psychedelic experience here. :)

Though I do smoke cigarettes, but I'm kicking that habit pretty soon.. if I still feel the same way about it. But I live in the [only time] Now so generally I don't care about hologram-'health' :p

I'll do LSD on the occaision, but only for either a simple good time/laugh, or for improving on guitar, or for artistic purposes. It's kind of like going into the wilderness to look at the pretty flowers, and finding one you want to draw or paint.. and taking what you've learned back home with you.

Like Terence McKenna, and millions and millions of other people on this planet, I smoke cannabis on a daily basis (unless finances become an obstacle)... because well, why the hell wouldn't you? :)
Nuff said! :cool:

[gullick]

Ummmmm...here goes.
I don't take drugs, unless you count a dope cake about 25 years ago.
My recent experience is of my boyfriend dying in front of my young son,as I tried to save him. Kind of puts you off:(

Damn, I'm really sorry to hear that. I can't believe people have overlooked this post!

If you don't mind me asking (and it isn't hurtful for you to repeat it) could you give us the name of what he took?

Hope you're well. I send my best wishes to your son.

[strider]

Ummmmm...here goes.
I don't take drugs, unless you count a dope cake about 25 years ago.
My recent experience is of my boyfriend dying in front of my young son,as I tried to save him. Kind of puts you off:(

Sorry, i didn't see that post, it was at the tail end.

I don't want to patronize you in anyway, as I have no clue how you're feeling.

Best wishes.

And let it be known, I have never and will never promote the use of man made chemical drugs. Some of them are simply just vile.

[2013]

I've heard of this for a while now. Have you tried it?? I'm a bit wary of fucking around with brainwave signals!

just tried the i doser peyote very very strong it says but am only feeling mild stoned type sensation i did drift in and out a bit and music tone changed at these times ,? ill let you know how i feel in the morning refreshed or dull , nothing like the real natural high but havent done peyote to know that but think its important to experience this as they can and probably do use tones etc against us so alert the mind to what goes on .typing seems fine so not really kicking in would be interesting to try the lucid dreaming or out of body ones see waht results they give . :D

[soglad]

I meditated with the "hand of God" dose.............man......I had to stop!! :eek:

Intense...

[horus21]

What are your opinions? The question isn't narrowed down much I know, but its not meant to be.

In other words, do you see all drugs as bad, some drugs as bad, no drugs as bad, them and he drugs as though?

You wouldnt infect your comp with a virus, its the same thing you do when you take drugs, it works off your own body, creating certain chemical reactions within your brain by manipulating natural chemical calculations and occurances which would actually ome around naturally given the chance..

They are there to stuff us up - why would u even contemplate taking them after learning this? Not to mention the endless people whom have no real control over their minds or will to live due to the use of drugs...

Id have a bit of a grade coke in an OJ if I had a freaky bitch for the night and it was there... but other than that I know too much about them to betray myself on that level... and this is fact.

[strider]

just tried the i doser peyote very very strong it says but am only feeling mild stoned type sensation i did drift in and out a bit and music tone changed at these times ,? ill let you know how i feel in the morning refreshed or dull , nothing like the real natural high but havent done peyote to know that but think its important to experience this as they can and probably do use tones etc against us so alert the mind to what goes on .typing seems fine so not really kicking in would be interesting to try the lucid dreaming or out of body ones see waht results they give . :D

Not too keen on i-doser to be honest.. I've got it but not that fussed.. Holosync is pretty hardcore, but that approaches it completely differently as it opens completely different neuron paths. It's far more focused on well being and mind expansion. It's not cheap and there are 12 levels, but I have up to level 6 and it is pretty powerful..

Also got a hemi-sync cd delivered today and that is really nice.. I listened to it around 5 pm and can still feel the effects now 9 hours later!

I'm getting the brainwave glasses next, they look wicked :D

[gullick]

I meditated with the "hand of God" dose.............man......I had to stop!! :eek:

Intense...

I hope you didn't pay for that one :p

I used that one myself , while it was happening I saw lots of patterns in my head which kept coming and going, for some reason I saw the shape of the mask in phantom of the opera repeatedly, which was weird as I've never seen Phantom of the opera, nor have I thought about it in years. They were pretty normal I suppose though, I see coloured patterns a lot when I close my eyes. Just not usually involving operas.

I couldn't feel anything else out of the ordinary but I decided I'd wait it out until the end. I got up after it finished- MER!!!

I felt like this guys face.

If I kept my head stationary for a few seconds then quickly moved it I felt as though I'd faint. I also heard a wierd watery sound in my head and felt disorientated. To be fair, it was quite enjoyable :D

[sunyatta60]

My thoughts on this issue are Why are drugs like LSD illegal when Alcohol is freely available in the West? The reason being is that Alcohol acts as a depressent on the brain and is the cause of much social ill, and on Lsd people experience Oneness and their connection not only with God but with everything else in the Universe as well. People who glimpse their Divine nature and are able to see that in others is unlikely to go around creating chaos on the planet, are they.
So these halluciogenic drugs have been outlawed because those with the power don't want an out break of peace we can see how they were terrified by the Hippy peace movement back in the 60's
The CIA under the program MK ultra were looking at LSD as a Mind Control drug but they outlawed it when it did the exact opposite of what they were hoping for.
Anyone who wants to know more on this subject should read what the world's leading authority has to say on it in these books:



Realms of the human unconscious: Observations from LSD research (An Esalen book) (Hardcover) by Stanislav Grof
By Tony Criscuolo "Cristolfo" (Swansea, UK) - See all my reviews
(REAL NAME)
This is now a classic in the field of what the possibilities are of human consciosuness and of finding healing from human trauma. Stanislav Grof worked with LSD in Europe and the US, with thousands of people. The importance of this work is such that it is quoted by many other authors. Grof describes how people using LSD found healing from what are still considered incurable conditions. He also describes how people transcended the usual boundaries of awareness.

He concluded his findings by saying that he had no doubt that the present view of the universe and the world around us, what we call 'reality', and especially our understanding of what it is to be human, is superficial, incorrect, and incomplete.


The Holotropic Mind: Three Levels of Human Consciousness and How They Shape Our Lives (Paperback)
by Stanislav Grof (Author), Hal Zina Bennett (Author)

You can see him talk here and Icke is also talking on this site along with other interesting researchers.

http://www.consciousmedianetwork.com/members/sgrof.htm

[2013]

After the peyote i doser i got some sounds and music travelling thru and in my head as i drifted off to sleep and started seeing a few line drawing type shamanic pictures but that was about it . It was a mild trip effect .Sound has always been utilised to alter perception and i have always felt that listening to electronic music.The ancients used sound in ceremonies probably to god effect and not forgetting pink floyd in pompei that spaced me right out when i watched it .!:D