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h1s_l0rdsh1p
02-10-2007, 01:25 PM
Perhaps they are not as "far off" as we may think.

If everything works with energy waves and even (as we have seen with other videos) sound waves can move things too.

Is it not possible, that the ancients languages were perfected to be able to use words to make certain things happen?

And is that possibly the reason why language is changing so quickly?

h1s_l0rdsh1p
02-10-2007, 01:46 PM
Also, thinking about this.

If everything is truely NOT SOLID, and that simple sound and radiation waves...

Radio
Radiation
Radio
Radiation... Hmm

Anyways, if these things can reform DNA structure, or atleast change them, then what's to say that you can not turn normal metals into gold?

Could this have been the secret of the Illuminati? Could this be WHY they are so obessed now with getting their hands on as much gold as possible?
Because they once had the power and/or knowledge, but now no longer have it?

Then again, perhaps these thoughts are being put into my head in order to keep me away from the truth?

Then again, perhaps a quick study into the "myth (un)solved" is the key to knowing the truth of things.

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02-10-2007, 02:23 PM
GLP (http://www.godlikeproductions.com/bbs/message.php?messageid=444903&mpage=1&showdate=10/2/07&forum=1)

chris
02-10-2007, 02:25 PM
Perhaps they are not as "far off" as we may think.

If everything works with energy waves and even (as we have seen with other videos) sound waves can move things too.

Is it not possible, that the ancients languages were perfected to be able to use words to make certain things happen?

And is that possibly the reason why language is changing so quickly?

Sounds like you are starting to learn the occult path on your own devices. That’s how I came to it too. If you are interested in delving deeper my advice is to find the roots of the teachings. The energetic philosophy was perpetuated by Crowley and Jung to give their work scientific creditability but it also weakens the personal philosophy of it. A lot of people work with energies like they are programming a computer when it is solely an art.

I don't believe the ancients languages were perfected to be able to use words to make certain things happen but there are two theories...

1. They decided to set a set of principals to agree upon and using the collective conscious, they made paths and symbolic representations out of them (other than the ones that form naturally)

2. They divined it from Ain Soph or whatever you want to call it...

I think it's somewhere in between...

I’ve found Wicca and Pagan stuff to be so weak and flowery, it’s fine if you want to dress up and play pretend but your not really doing anything. They almost completely omit astrological timings and if they do they use modern astrology which is like a psychologist believing himself to be a poker player just because of a few token body sign signals.

Also, thinking about this.

If everything is truely NOT SOLID, and that simple sound and radiation waves...

Radio
Radiation
Radio
Radiation... Hmm

Anyways, if these things can reform DNA structure, or atleast change them, then what's to say that you can not turn normal metals into gold?

Could this have been the secret of the Illuminati? Could this be WHY they are so obessed now with getting their hands on as much gold as possible?
Because they once had the power and/or knowledge, but now no longer have it?

Then again, perhaps these thoughts are being put into my head in order to keep me away from the truth?

Then again, perhaps a quick study into the "myth (un)solved" is the key to knowing the truth of things.

People have been turning base metals into gold for thousands of years, you can get books on it (albeit quite rare). Just look through this page, you’ll see many alchemical processes, gold was considered a by product by real alchemists.

http://www.philosophicalmercury.page.tl/Study.htm

Your brain contains gold. Your whole body is an alchemical laboratory, alchemy is doing things on the outside and then uniting them together. It’s very interesting to visualise these operations because symbolically you are practicing alchemy and has very interesting effects as far as dreams go (very philosophical, alchemical and a lot of practical alchemy in them)…

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02-10-2007, 02:29 PM
Recent discoveries (http://www.astronomy.com/ASY/CS/forums/354983/ShowPost.aspx)

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02-10-2007, 02:30 PM
ABBA - Thank You For The Music - YouTube

h1s_l0rdsh1p
02-10-2007, 02:36 PM
Sounds like you are starting to learn the occult path on your own devices. That’s how I came to it too. If you are interested in delving deeper my advice is to find the roots of the teachings. The energetic philosophy was perpetuated by Crowley and Jung to give their work scientific creditability but it also weakens the personal philosophy of it. A lot of people work with energies like they are programming a computer when it is solely an art.

Well, yes. I am making my way to the occultic world. And no, I am not trying to go towards weak things, nor am I wanting to see what crowley and the such have taught. I believe the ancients did know something of how it works, and I think this is also why the elite keep it all hidden and use religion ot scare us away from it. Also, something tells me that "bird headed/snake legged gods" did not just appear into the imagination of people. Then again, maybe!
I'm not right on everything.


I don't believe the ancients languages were perfected to be able to use words to make certain things happen but there are two theories...

1. They decided to set a set of principals to agree upon and using the collective conscious, they made paths and symbolic representations out of them (other than the ones that form naturally)

2. They divined it from Ain Soph or whatever you want to call it...

I think it's somewhere in between...

I’ve found Wicca and Pagan stuff to be so weak and flowery, it’s fine if you want to dress up and play pretend but your not really doing anything. They almost completely omit astrological timings and if they do they use modern astrology which is like a psychologist believing himself to be a poker player just because of a few token body sign signals.



People have been turning base metals into gold for thousands of years, you can get books on it (albeit quite rare). Just look through this page, you’ll see many alchemical processes, gold was considered a by product by real alchemists.

http://www.philosophicalmercury.page.tl/Study.htm

Your brain contains gold. Your whole body is an alchemical laboratory, alchemy is doing things on the outside and then uniting them together. It’s very interesting to visualise these operations because symbolically you are practicing alchemy and has very interesting effects as far as dreams go (very philosophical, alchemical and a lot of practical alchemy in them)…

Something tells me this goes really deep...

I just might dissapear from all of this. But due to my vision yesterday, I don't worry about it.

chris
02-10-2007, 02:56 PM
Well, yes. I am making my way to the occultic world. And no, I am not trying to go towards weak things, nor am I wanting to see what crowley and the such have taught.

I have a great mixture of feelings when it comes to Crowley. In many respects he was great and in others, he was absolutely terrible (not morally, most of that is disinfo).

The reason why I think he was terrible was that he had built his astral body so he didn't need to do other work other than magick and so him and mathers completely forgot about large parts of the whole philosophy and nowadays you get so many students who think they can do what they can do but because they can't see with astral eye's, they are pretty much playing pantomime. The aincient mysteries were all about liberating the astral body but Crowley just took it for granted that everyone had it easily but it's not the case. Ironically his strength made his teachings very weak.

I believe the ancients did know something of how it works, and I think this is also why the elite keep it all hidden and use religion ot scare us away from it. Also, something tells me that "bird headed/snake legged gods" did not just appear into the imagination of people. Then again, maybe!
I'm not right on everything.

Yeah, the spirits of the goetia are fucking weird, trust.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
02-10-2007, 03:01 PM
I have a great mixture of feelings when it comes to Crowley. In many respects he was great and in others, he was absolutely terrible (not morally, most of that is disinfo).

The reason why I think he was terrible was that he had built his astral body so he didn't need to do other work other than magick and so him and mathers completely forgot about large parts of the whole philosophy and nowadays you get so many students who think they can do what they can do but because they can't see with astral eye's, they are pretty much playing pantomime. The aincient mysteries were all about liberating the astral body but Crowley just took it for granted that everyone had it easily but it's not the case. Ironically his strength made his teachings very weak.



Yeah, the spirits of the goetia are fucking weird, trust.


I can understand what you are saying with crowely. However, I feel crowely was flaud. In his youth, I understand he was rebelous and would not listen to many people because he realized that they were not knowledged in the things that truely interest him.
However, I feel he took it too far and tryed to get fame; almost a "christ-hood" in what he was doing. For this, I think he was flaud.

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02-10-2007, 07:11 PM
Ever read Rudhyar..?Also, thinking about this.

If everything is truely NOT SOLID, and that simple sound and radiation waves...

Radio
Radiation
Radio
Radiation... Hmm

Anyways, if these things can reform DNA structure, or atleast change them, then what's to say that you can not turn normal metals into gold?

Could this have been the secret of the Illuminati? Could this be WHY they are so obessed...
...?



"Astrological Music of the Spheres" and "Combination Tone Theory"...?
~Erkki Lehtiranta


GONG MASTER DON CONREAUX:
"THE GONG IS AN OCEAN OF SOUNDS"

http://holistic-resonance.com/images/donsm.gif

There are instruments and there are instruments. Among the latter is the gong, that instrument which can produce all the sounds within our hearing range. The oldest known gongs are over 5000 years old and come from Asia Minor. In the East, this instrument has been used in many different religious contexts, for example, in yoga meditation. The West, however, is only acquainted with it through its thunderous, yet seldom heard sounds in symphony orchestras. I only know of one westerner who has dedicated his life to this astounding instrument. He is the American music-maker and sound therapist Don Conreaux, a man who can even make the gong dance.
I have been aware of Don Conreaux' gong art for quite some time thanks to having once "accidentally" browsed through his home page. I noted his name and, lo and behold, I finally met the gong man live and in person while attending the Spirit, Mind and Body festival in London. He appeared on the festival stage with a large gong and asked several people in the audience to come onto the stage for some sound therapy.

The session began with some slow, majestic strikes of the gong which then sped up, going into variations as Conreaux demonstrated different techniques of playing the instrument. The gong came alive in the hands of the master. By closing one's eyes one could easily imagine that the gong is imitating a great process of creation in which hydrogen unites with helium, the stars and the planets are born and galaxies begin their spiral dance. The resonances were suddenly vibrating through the air in the festival's Royal Horticultural House.

Towards the end of the session, Conreaux removed the gong from its supports, shook it around his head by holding on to the rope encircling it and went around the stage like a twenty-first century shaman. The gong's circling motion around the gong master produced magnificent musical-acoustical phenomena which I myself had never before experienced. The event was electrifying and therapeutic not only for those who climbed up onto the stage for "treatment".

The sixty-five year old Conreaux is an imposing human being, an unusual combination of gentleness and power. His first contacts with the gong occurred during the flower children era of the sixties in Los Angeles. There he encountered a gong master from Big Sur in California and somewhat later, a yoga teacher who used gongs and bells in meditations.

Conreaux had originally wanted to be an actor, singer and yogin, yet finally found his life mission through the gong. He was deeply influenced by his encounter with astrologer-philosopher-composer Dane Rudhyar in the early seventies. Thanks to him, Conreaux was able to assimilate the principles of syntonic music according to which musical compositions are used as springboards of power. For example, in his publication of the forties entitled "Art as a Release of Power", Rudhyar wrote about the gong, gong music and the fact that his theories on syntonic music were actually based on the gong. The tonality of this instrument unites different elements into a resonating whole.

Rudhyar was one of the twentieth century's great humanistic astrologers and was interested in the galactic dimensions of spiritual astronomy. He also tried to bring about a synthesis between astrology and music. Conreaux has also continued the work of Rudhyar in this sense on account of his development of a great archetypal chart which he calls the Chiometer. This chart represents a giant synthesis between different esoteric systems.

The Chiometer brings together planetary frequencies, the "biological clock" and meridians of Chinese medicine, astrological energies, chakras, tarot cards, the tree of life of the Kabbalah as well as colours and tonalities, amongst others. It represents a great field of correspondences which can help us considerably in organizing our vision of reality. It also opens up fresh new horizons for astrology itself. With the aid of the Chiometer one can examine one's own astrological chart from a fresh viewpoint.

In his Chiometer, Don Conreaux has made use of researcher-musician Hans Cousto's calculations of the frequencies of planetary orbits which he then proceeded to raise by twenty octaves. These mathematically arrived at frequencies informed the construction of tuning keys after which the gong manufacturer Paiste produced custom-made gongs on the basis of the tuning keys. Conreaux calls these planetary gongs and they represent the musical correlates of the heavenly bodies of our solar system.

Don Conreaux communicates his gong philosophy through lectures, workshops and performances. He has, together with his partner Randee Ragin, established the Mysterious Tremendum Consort group whose music has been called "spiritual free-jazz". In addition to gongs, the music incorporates archaic instruments and those of aboriginal peoples, all of which aims to free the listener's and player's creative awareness. The group's name refers to the great Russian composer-mystic Alexander Skriabin who has been a source of inspiration to both Rudhyar and Conreaux.

According to Conreaux, the "sonic baths" produced by gong music "help people to move from the three-dimensional world of form to the fourth and fifth dimensions which lie beyond time and form. Healing music is born out of ecstasy, bliss and timelessness, all of which gives rise to a DYNAMIC peace. This is close to what I understand as the music of the spheres."

We are on the verge of a new millennium. I ask Don Conreaux how he sees the music of the coming millennium.

"Twenty-first century music will be evocative, mindful music. The idea is that musicians can get together to play without prior reflection and planning. This of course does not mean doing away with songs and compositions, yet the new music will bring with it the new dimension of channeling music without the presence of ego. Dane Rudhyar already believed that the music of the future would be a spontaneous channeling of the Great Spirit. Central to this endeavour is the fact that the artist frees him/herself from the chains of the ego."

Don Conreaux is currently completing a book in which he connects runic writing and the I Ching with the other elements of the Chiometer. I joyfully look forward to its publication.

Erkki Lehtiranta

Finnish magazine, "Mina Olen" translation by Kai Oka

PS. Conreaux's home pages can be admired in the address, http://www.holistic-resonance.com. Interesting articles are to be found in these pages, for example "Astrological Music of the Spheres" and "Combination Tone Theory".



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gamelan gong kebyar - YouTube

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02-10-2007, 07:25 PM
Qigong Chi Kung: Six Healing Sounds - YouTube

Qigong Chinese Healing Art - YouTube

The Empty Mind - Wudang Mountain Tai Chi - YouTube


chinese wudang kungfu,real kungfu - YouTube
Wudang Kung Fu 八極拳 Wudang Baji Quan - YouTube
Wudang Quan On Rocky Mountains - YouTube

Blissed-out in Cleveland: Qi Gong & Yoga - YouTube

YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

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03-10-2007, 11:47 AM
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
03-10-2007, 11:56 AM
Why have you decided to use this thread as a haven for the videos you'd like to share.

I'm sorry, but what does any of this have to do with spells of the occult?

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03-10-2007, 12:04 PM
Why have you decided to use this thread as a haven for the videos you'd like to share.

I'm sorry, but what does any of this have to do with spells of the occult?Your Highness!

You must be very stoopid if you can't see it, Your-Self.

Sory, but, I can not help You.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
03-10-2007, 12:19 PM
I understand that you have put these up for a purpose.

But the original purpose of my questioning was not gion along the lines of Eastern religions. I was more thinking in terms of western and middle-eastern occultic beliefs.

If you could atleast give explanation as to WHY these videos (mostly featuring Tai-Chi) may help me figure this out. (I understand the first video in the second page is based around "healing sounds")
Is that so much to ask?
Just abit more typing, peasant?
(Let the sarcasim roll, I say)

-HL

chris
03-10-2007, 12:20 PM
Qigong and taoist alchemical philosophies originates from Egypt. The spread of the knowledge of alchemy followed with that of the red lion. They used to make this elixir of life (some still do).

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4557/6goldcolorsoa6.jpg

They used to invoke all kinds of shit but now as far as I know they are operating on close to the level of Paul Daniels.

They've lost far too many secrets, none of the masters would pass it on...

h1s_l0rdsh1p
03-10-2007, 12:21 PM
Qigong and taoist alchemical philosophies originates from Egypt. The spread of the knowledge of alchemy followed with that of the red lion. They used to make this elixir of life (some still do).

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4557/6goldcolorsoa6.jpg

Although they've lost far too many secrets, none of the masters would pass it on...

This has to make you question then..

Were we born with such knowledge then?
If not, how did we learn it?
Trial and error?
Other beings?

Strange, really.

chris
03-10-2007, 12:23 PM
This has to make you question then..

Were we born with such knowledge then?
If not, how did we learn it?
Trial and error?
Other beings?

Strange, really.

One of the great mysteries...David Icke might know:eek:

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03-10-2007, 12:28 PM
This has to make you question then..

Were we born with such knowledge then?
If not, how did we learn it?
Trial and error?
Other beings?

Strange, really.Nabaztag Opera (English subtitled) - YouTube

h1s_l0rdsh1p
03-10-2007, 12:29 PM
One of the great mysteries...David Icke might know:eek:

I doubt that. Then again, he would have had to have been born with it, which would answer my question...

But something tells me that Gnostisim and the Occult go hand in hand. Or rather, derive from a singular truth....

chris
03-10-2007, 12:40 PM
I doubt that. Then again, he would have had to have been born with it, which would answer my question...

Maybe we should take him on a third Puru and have him spit some lyrics

But something tells me that Gnostisim and the Occult go hand in hand. Or rather, derive from a singular truth....

Okay, I really don't want to be clarifying this shit for the next 10 posts (thanks to the wikipedia ascended masters) but gnosis is the occult as it with commonly used terms (thanks knitties) focusses on experience (I know I'm going to regret writing this).

chris
03-10-2007, 12:43 PM
Back to your main question...'How did we learn this shit (paraphrasing)'

Well if you ask them, we had an advanced civilisation way back when...They knew all this stuff so the real question is, would they pass on info of metal transmutation but lay down disinfo with regard to its origin?

But how did THEY learn it???

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03-10-2007, 12:49 PM
Qigong and taoist alchemical philosophies originates from Egypt. The spread of the knowledge of alchemy followed with that of the red lion. They used to make this elixir of life (some still do).

http://img181.imageshack.us/img181/4557/6goldcolorsoa6.jpg

They used to invoke all kinds of shit but now as far as I know they are operating on close to the level of Paul Daniels.

They've lost far too many secrets, none of the masters would pass it on...secret tearsRamon Vargas - L'elisir d'amore - Una furtiva lagrima - YouTube

h1s_l0rdsh1p
03-10-2007, 12:51 PM
Edit!

I get it. Sound, ok. Music has the power to heal. Said by Jimi Hendrix.
It's true, but you are missing the point of my question, and now I am goig to terms with an even larger possiblity than this.


So please..


STOP TROLLING THE THREAD!

chris
03-10-2007, 12:57 PM
Back to your main question...'How did we learn this shit (paraphrasing)'

Well if you ask them, we had an advanced civilisation way back when...They knew all this stuff so the real question is, would they pass on info of metal transmutation but lay down disinfo with regard to its origin?

But how did THEY learn it???

When I said advanced civilisation, I wasn't talking about Egypt either.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
03-10-2007, 12:59 PM
When I said advanced civilisation, I wasn't talking about Egypt either.

Perhaps what we are going through now, has happened many times before. But it needs to happen.

It's not they are truely an enemy. They are part of the trial!
I get it!

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03-10-2007, 01:00 PM
Edit!

I get it. Sound, ok. Music has the power to heal. Said by Jimi Hendrix.
It's true, but you are missing the point of my question, and now I am goig to terms with an even larger possiblity than this.


So please..


STOP TROLLING THE THREAD!Glad for you, then.
You have got the healing you needed tru harmonics of the other ones suphering. Great! Isn't it!
You feel strong now.
Youcanspell.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
03-10-2007, 01:03 PM
Glad for you, then.
You have got the healing you needed tru harmonics of the other ones suphering. Great! Isn't it!
You feel strong now.
Youcanspell.

Take your pseudo-intellectual grammar-nazi double-thinking somewhere else.

Honestly, it's sad.

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03-10-2007, 01:06 PM
ur a legend! Enrico Caruso - Una Furtiva Lagrima - YouTube

chris
03-10-2007, 01:11 PM
Glad for you, then.
You have got the healing you needed tru harmonics of the other ones suphering. Great! Isn't it!
You feel strong now.
Youcanspell.

http://www.worldartswest.org/plm/guide/resources/images/violin.jpg

h1s_l0rdsh1p
03-10-2007, 01:18 PM
Great, just help him out, uh?

chris
03-10-2007, 05:02 PM
Of the Red Lion – Start from page 3...

http://geocities.com/central_powers/download_volpierre.html

How funny to see this on a thread in a David Icke forum and soon will float away into oblivion.

h1s_l0rdsh1p
03-10-2007, 05:25 PM
This information is great. Thank you..