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adreamtosome
02-10-2007, 07:11 AM
Public wants surveillance, Bloomberg says
In London, NYC mayor cites 'ring of steel' there; also touts traffic plan
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, left, is shown a police control room during his visit to London police headquarters on Monday.
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Ok, now's the time to don those drab grey suits, walk in line, be complacent...and most important, INCREASE PRODUCTION!!! (1984 moment, sorry! :D)

:mad::mad:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21085283/

Updated: 1:09 p.m. CT Oct 1, 2007
LONDON - Residents of big cities like New York and London must accept that they are under constant watch by video cameras, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Monday.

Bloomberg, holding talks with his London counterpart, Ken Livingstone, said measures such as London's "ring of steel" — a network of closed-circuit cameras that monitors the city center— were a necessary protection in a dangerous world.

"In this day and age, if you think that cameras aren't watching you all the time, you are very naive," Bloomberg told reporters at London's City Hall.

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"We are under surveillance all the time" from cameras in shops and office buildings, "and in London they have multiple cameras on every bus and in every subway car," he added.

"The people of London not only support it, but if Ken Livingstone didn't do it they would try to run him out of town on a rail. We live in a dangerous world, and people want to have security cameras."

During his visit, Bloomberg was getting a demonstration of the ring of steel, a system of cameras and road barriers introduced during the years of Irish Republican Army bombings to protect London's central business district.

London has one of the world's highest concentrations of surveillance cameras. An estimated 4 million CCTV cameras operate in Britain, and some civil liberties campaigners have warned the country is becoming a "surveillance state."

New York has far fewer, but the number is growing. Authorities hope to implement an $81.5 million version of the ring of steel for lower Manhattan, featuring surveillance cameras as well as barriers that could automatically block streets.

Congestion tax colleagues
Bloomberg, on a European trip focusing on environmental issues, also said he was confident of introducing a road-pricing scheme modeled on London's traffic-busting congestion charge to New York.

The $16 toll on entering the city center by car was introduced by Livingstone after he was elected in 2000 and has been credited with cutting gridlock and increasing the number of bus and bicycle journeys.

Bloomberg must persuade both New York's city council and the state legislature to back his plan, which calls for charging $8 to drive a car into Manhattan south of 86th street on weekdays between 6 a.m. and 6 p.m.

A commission is studying Bloomberg's plan and other ways to reduce the city's traffic and is due to make a recommendation by the end of January.

The two mayors arrived at London's riverfront City Hall on Monday after a ride on a new hybrid double-decker bus, another of Livingstone's green initiatives.

Bloomberg said he was confident his toll plan — he prefers the term "congestion pricing" to London's "congestion charge" — would be introduced.

"I'm very optimistic the assembly and the senate will pass it, the governor will sign it. I just think there would be such a firestorm if they didn't, because every day our children are breathing in the air, every day our stores and business are suffering, and it is going to get worse."

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.

anoninnyc
02-10-2007, 02:10 PM
i saw this shit on the news last night. pisses me off big time. that is one thing i hate about london, all those damn cctv cams everywhere. let me ask you this- why is there still crime in london?

as a new yorker i am outraged. the very recent move to put cameras and t.v.s in all cabs pissed me off enough, now this...........

real6
02-10-2007, 10:29 PM
Hell no i dont want that shit!!!

Bad enough im born and raised here. im trying to flee North America PERIOD!!!

anoninnyc
02-10-2007, 10:52 PM
Hell no i dont want that shit!!!

Bad enough im born and raised here. im trying to flee North America PERIOD!!!

yeah, but to go where? not europe, that is for sure. what are our options? south america maybe, i really have no idea. feeling the same as you though.

synak
03-10-2007, 01:11 AM
Hell no i dont want that shit!!!

Bad enough im born and raised here. im trying to flee North America PERIOD!!!

Amen to that my friend. I feel the same way if not more so.

yeah, but to go where? not europe, that is for sure. what are our options? south america maybe, i really have no idea. feeling the same as you though.

Tibet. Bad thing is its nearly impossible getting a permanent visa in China which you need before attempting to live in Tibet.

herebynightfall
03-10-2007, 03:48 AM
New Yorkers WANT surveillance...REALLY, they do!!!

No, the media says that they do. Politicians say in front of media camera's that they do.

I don't want this world of boundaries.
I can't stand the 'separation'

We are one!
We are one!

Just different latitudes and longitudes on a 360 degree sphere.

adreamtosome
03-10-2007, 04:42 AM
Amen to that my friend. I feel the same way if not more so.



Tibet. Bad thing is its nearly impossible getting a permanent visa in China which you need before attempting to live in Tibet.


I want to move to Easter Island. Nothing there but Chilleans and big statues created by aliens. :D (at least that is what Von Daniken thinks) :p

real6
03-10-2007, 03:39 PM
my friends, i dont even know where. hmmmmmmm, easter island anit too bad. South america, but thats even sketchy. The only place i think where u could move on earth and no one would find you is way up in canada or russia where you would not have any kind of troubles. in the remote forrest reigon or some place like that. but, the hugh but. the winter would prob kill you with out food or shelter. and in the rain forrest or south america would be a problem, they will be gone soon. so that gives me little options.
but i def want out of North America, as much as i like Ontario around Toronto...

trumansho
03-10-2007, 04:15 PM
Public wants surveillance, Bloomberg says
In London, NYC mayor cites 'ring of steel' there; also touts traffic plan
New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg, left, is shown a police control room during his visit to London police headquarters on Monday.
View related photos
Sang Tan / AP

NBC World Blog
NBC News correspondents and producers around the globe share their insight on news events.



Ok, now's the time to don those drab grey suits, walk in line, be complacent...and most important, INCREASE PRODUCTION!!! (1984 moment, sorry! :D)

:mad::mad:


http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/21085283/

Updated: 1:09 p.m. CT Oct 1, 2007
LONDON - Residents of big cities like New York and London must accept that they are under constant watch by video cameras, New York Mayor Michael Bloomberg said Monday.

Bloomberg, holding talks with his London counterpart, Ken Livingstone, said measures such as London's "ring of steel" — a network of closed-circuit cameras that monitors the city center— were a necessary protection in a dangerous world.

"In this day and age, if you think that cameras aren't watching you all the time, you are very naive," Bloomberg told reporters at London's City Hall.

Story continues below ↓
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advertisement

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"We are under surveillance all the time" from cameras in shops and office buildings, "and in London they have multiple cameras on every bus and in every subway car," he added.

"The people of London not only support it, but if Ken Livingstone didn't do it they would try to run him out of town on a rail. We live in a dangerous world, and people want to have security cameras."

During his visit, Bloomberg was getting a demonstration of the ring of steel, a system of cameras and road barriers introduced during the years of Irish Republican Army bombings to protect London's central business district.

London has one of the world's highest concentrations of surveillance cameras. An estimated 4 million CCTV cameras operate in Britain, and some civil liberties campaigners have warned the country is becoming a "surveillance state."

New York has far fewer, but the number is growing. Authorities hope to implement an $81.5 million version of the ring of steel for lower Manhattan, featuring surveillance cameras as well as barriers that could automatically block streets.

Congestion tax colleagues
Bloomberg, on a European trip focusing on environmental issues, also said he was confident of introducing a road-pricing scheme modeled on London's traffic-busting congestion charge to New York.

The $16 toll on entering the city center by car was introduced by Livingstone after he was elected in 2000 and has been credited with cutting gridlock and increasing the number of bus and bicycle journeys.

Bloomberg must persuade both New York's city council and the state legislature to back his plan, which calls for charging $8 to drive a car into Manhattan south of 86th street on weekdays between 6 a.m. and 6 p.m.

A commission is studying Bloomberg's plan and other ways to reduce the city's traffic and is due to make a recommendation by the end of January.

The two mayors arrived at London's riverfront City Hall on Monday after a ride on a new hybrid double-decker bus, another of Livingstone's green initiatives.

Bloomberg said he was confident his toll plan — he prefers the term "congestion pricing" to London's "congestion charge" — would be introduced.

"I'm very optimistic the assembly and the senate will pass it, the governor will sign it. I just think there would be such a firestorm if they didn't, because every day our children are breathing in the air, every day our stores and business are suffering, and it is going to get worse."

Copyright 2007 The Associated Press. All rights reserved. This material may not be published, broadcast, rewritten or redistributed.
I'm not surprised. Yesterday this guy told me he would get the microchips and he said why does everything have to a be a conspiracy they gov could be helping us out he quoted. I was thinking to myself what a dumb fool.

synak
03-10-2007, 04:27 PM
I want to move to Easter Island. Nothing there but Chilleans and big statues created by aliens. :D (at least that is what Von Daniken thinks) :p

Haha thats not bad. I wouldn't mind taking a trip there.

http://i21.tinypic.com/33cbwp4.jpg


my friends, i dont even know where. hmmmmmmm, easter island anit too bad. South america, but thats even sketchy. The only place i think where u could move on earth and no one would find you is way up in canada or russia where you would not have any kind of troubles. in the remote forrest reigon or some place like that. but, the hugh but. the winter would prob kill you with out food or shelter. and in the rain forrest or south america would be a problem, they will be gone soon. so that gives me little options.
but i def want out of North America, as much as i like Ontario around Toronto...

Some type of island perhaps? Most of them are owned by the scum NWO though so I'm not sure exactly which one I'd go to. I definitely have to leave this place because staying is no longer an option for me. Every week there is literally clouds and fog of pollution that covers the streets and leaves a toxic smell inside the homes until the next batch comes in and repeats the process. Not to mention chemtrails, factories, sewers, dead fish at the lake, etc. Excuse the language but its fuckin horrible.