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655321
21-03-2010, 01:58 AM
REV 17:15 "The waters that you saw where the harlot lives
represent large numbers of peoples, nations, and tongues.

http://sinj.com/the-star-tarot/images/statue-liberty-torch-flag.jpg

The first mention of the melting pot in American literature may be found in the ... Here individuals of all nations are melted into a new race of men, whose labors and ... in multiple languages, to assist speakers of minority tongues. ...

timehasanend
21-03-2010, 04:31 AM
I am actually making a video concerning that IDOL you have there. There is much more to that statue than you can even imagine.

655321
21-03-2010, 08:28 AM
I'd like to see your video.

jesusistruth
21-03-2010, 10:04 AM
'Cept the bornagains will tell you it is the Catholic church. The US fits the description quite well except the part the killing of the prophets/saints.

willnotbesilenced
21-03-2010, 10:06 AM
I`m more inclined to believe that `mystery babylon` is the ROMAN C. church & false religious system.

America yes certainly could be the Babylonian BEAST system, but `mystery babylon` more fits the false religious system.

Keep in mind that Scripture says : `Come out of her my people`

Now if America is `Mystery babylon` then would it be reasonable for God to expect everyone to come out of America ?
Such would be impossible - (think about the poor, and the homeless, and the sick) God doesnt ask the impossible.


Just my opinion, and how I see it - but I respect your opinions too.

655321
21-03-2010, 10:08 AM
Keep in mind that Scripture says : `Come out of her my people`



I think that part is for the Jews.

jesusistruth
21-03-2010, 10:19 AM
Now if America is `Mystery babylon` then would it be reasonable for God to expect everyone to come out of America ?

Because he's gonna burn and devastate her.

http://www.biblegateway.com/passage/?search=Revelation+18&version=KJV


As for the poor you mentioned, anyone who acutally believes (and if it was real) has nothing to fear...

willnotbesilenced
21-03-2010, 10:22 AM
I think that part is for the Jews.





Fair point, I didnt think of that.

But then there`s also that Prophecy by St. Malachy (err decernment) and how he said that during the time of the final pope that ROME would be destroyed.

Dont want to send this thread off topic here but what St. Malachy said might help throw some light on it, especially whilst the next Pope might just be a (black) man from Ghana called Peter (as foretold by Malachy)

http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058721892#post1058721892

655321
21-03-2010, 10:51 AM
He's called Peter the Roman so he might be Italian.

1964
23-03-2010, 05:57 PM
I`m more inclined to believe that `mystery babylon` is the ROMAN C. church & false religious system.

America yes certainly could be the Babylonian BEAST system, but `mystery babylon` more fits the false religious system.

Keep in mind that Scripture says : `Come out of her my people`

Now if America is `Mystery babylon` then would it be reasonable for God to expect everyone to come out of America ?
Such would be impossible - (think about the poor, and the homeless, and the sick) God doesnt ask the impossible.


Just my opinion, and how I see it - but I respect your opinions too.

She's a prostitute, riding on the back of a scarlet coloured beast. Separate characteristics are given to describe both the woman, and the beast. They aren't one and the same - she rides on the back of the beast.

I've gone through the list of characteristics given for the prostitute - there's no other body in the world that fits the description exactly, and the description fits the Roman Catholic church with 100% accuracy.

About the beast.

When the Roman Vatican became its own city-state in 1929, at the Signing of the Lateran Treaty, then the Roman Vatican became an officially recognized political entity, as well as a religious one. So when the pope attends the General Assembly of the United Nations, he's not only there as a religious leader; but also as a POLITICIAN.

Except ask yourself this: Why is it that when the pope attends the UN Assembly, he's given his own seat, on-stage; with security guards at both sides. While the rest of the world's leaders are all seated in the audience, facing the pope. It's called the United Nations - not the "United Nations of Rome". But yet why do the world's leaders accept this, who are from non-Catholic religions?

-The kings of the earth have committed adultery with her (Revelation 17:2)

So we have the Roman Catholic church, who appears to be "riding on the back" of the United Nations.

But we're given certain characteristics with which to identify the beast. And I've not yet been able to identify it precisely as the United Nations. The beast, itself, is diverse - one beast, but with 7 heads, and 10 horns.

This is shocking, if you can wrap your head around it. It's A LOT of information - I'll try to write it out as short as I can.

1) The title of "pope" already existed prior to the birth of the Roman Catholic church. It was the Roman popes, under the Roman Caesars, who were in charge of overseeing Rome's pagan religion.

2) Between 300-400AD, Emperor Constantine forces the conversion of the Roman Empire to (false) Christianity. The Roman popes now become the overseers of Rome's new religion - Roman paganism, disguised as Christianity. The Roman Catholic church, now in her infancy stages, is born.

3) Some time after this, Rome begins to propagate the lie that the Roman pope is the direct successor of Jesus Christ's apostle, Peter. If that were true, the title of pope would not have existed prior to Christ's first coming; and the Catholic church would not have been born more than 400 years AFTER Christ had already founded His Church. None-the-less, Catholics still believe it to this day - that their popes are Peter's successors.

4) The Roman Empire is conquered, and the Caesar's are conquered with them. But NOT the Roman popes, who remained the leaders of their new Roman Catholic church. Except, now - without the Caesars - the Roman popes could only hope to be recognized as the religious leaders of their own religion.

5) Until 1929, when the Vatican became its own city-state, at the Signing of the Lateran Treaty/Pacts.

It was in 1929 that the Roman Empire RE-emerged - once again as both a religious and political power in the world!

Notice the UN symbol above the podium, where the pope is speaking. A globe of the world, encircled with Caesar's crown of authority. You can see it in my avatar also: The Antichrist's one-world government, including the Antichrist's one-world religion.

Here's a picture of pope Benedict at the United Nations; and then an even earlier pope.

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/DI%201/untitled.jpg

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/DI%201/ap_pope_un_080414_ssh.jpg

Roman denarius, with Caesar's crown of authority; and Caesar wearing the crown.

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/DI%201/AdenariusofAugustuscoronacivica.jpg

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/DI%201/caesar_denarius.jpg

A sculpture of Caesar Augustus, wearing the Roman crown.

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/DI%201/caesaraugustuswithcoronacivica.jpg

Now remember how John was shown the title that's written on the prostitute's forehead:

MYSTERY
BABYLON THE GREAT
THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Abominations of the earth: Think hard about the forum that you're sitting in when you look at this next picture. This picture was attached to a particular news article - where the Roman Catholic church was asked, if "aliens" do exist, then is Jesus Christ the Savior of aliens also? Since the alien is dressed to look like a Roman Catholic saint, would that mean their answer is "yes"?

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/DI%201/6a00d83451586c69e201287579ff21970c-.jpg

Think about it. The Roman Catholic church has been identified in the Book of Revelation as an imposter; a spiritual prostitute; the mother of prostitutes; and the mother of the abominations of the earth. And Jesus Christ has warned us that the devil has led the "whole world" astray. And the people in this forum are convinced that their ideas are coming from some fella named David Icke - who is only a mere human being.

"Believing in aliens not opposed to Christianity, Vatican's Top Astronomer says"

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/believing_in_aliens_not_opposed_to_christianity_va ticans_top_astronomer_says/

"Vatican Astronomer says if aliens exist, they may not need redemption"

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802629.htm

Etc etc.

Just Google "catholic alien".

The Mother of the Abominations of the Earth.

Even without any 'official' political power, the Roman Catholic church was still able to carry out the Roman papal crusades and inquisitions - where she tortured and murdered millions of people, each one considered an enemy of the pope. Now, once again, she has both the political and religious power that she had under the Emperors of Rome - except this time, SHE is the sole ruler of the Roman Empire (riding on the back of a scarlet coloured beast).

willnotbesilenced
23-03-2010, 07:21 PM
She's a prostitute, riding on the back of a scarlet coloured beast. Separate characteristics are given to describe both the woman, and the beast. They aren't one and the same - she rides on the back of the beast.

I've gone through the list of characteristics given for the prostitute - there's no other body in the world that fits the description exactly, and the description fits the Roman Catholic church with 100% accuracy.

About the beast.

When the Roman Vatican became its own city-state in 1929, at the Signing of the Lateran Treaty, then the Roman Vatican became an officially recognized political entity, as well as a religious one. So when the pope attends the General Assembly of the United Nations, he's not only there as a religious leader; but also as a POLITICIAN.

Except ask yourself this: Why is it that when the pope attends the UN Assembly, he's given his own seat, on-stage; with security guards at both sides. While the rest of the world's leaders are all seated in the audience, facing the pope. It's called the United Nations - not the "United Nations of Rome". But yet why do the world's leaders accept this, who are from non-Catholic religions?

-The kings of the earth have committed adultery with her (Revelation 17:2)

So we have the Roman Catholic church, who appears to be "riding on the back" of the United Nations.

But we're given certain characteristics with which to identify the beast. And I've not yet been able to identify it precisely as the United Nations. The beast, itself, is diverse - one beast, but with 7 heads, and 10 horns.

This is shocking, if you can wrap your head around it. It's A LOT of information - I'll try to write it out as short as I can.

1) The title of "pope" already existed prior to the birth of the Roman Catholic church. It was the Roman popes, under the Roman Caesars, who were in charge of overseeing Rome's pagan religion.

2) Between 300-400AD, Emperor Constantine forces the conversion of the Roman Empire to (false) Christianity. The Roman popes now become the overseers of Rome's new religion - Roman paganism, disguised as Christianity. The Roman Catholic church, now in her infancy stages, is born.

3) Some time after this, Rome begins to propagate the lie that the Roman pope is the direct successor of Jesus Christ's apostle, Peter. If that were true, the title of pope would not have existed prior to Christ's first coming; and the Catholic church would not have been born more than 400 years AFTER Christ had already founded His Church. None-the-less, Catholics still believe it to this day - that their popes are Peter's successors.

4) The Roman Empire is conquered, and the Caesar's are conquered with them. But NOT the Roman popes, who remained the leaders of their new Roman Catholic church. Except, now - without the Caesars - the Roman popes could only hope to be recognized as the religious leaders of their own religion.

5) Until 1929, when the Vatican became its own city-state, at the Signing of the Lateran Treaty/Pacts.

It was in 1929 that the Roman Empire RE-emerged - once again as both a religious and political power in the world!

Notice the UN symbol above the podium, where the pope is speaking. A globe of the world, encircled with Caesar's crown of authority. You can see it in my avatar also: The Antichrist's one-world government, including the Antichrist's one-world religion.

Here's a picture of pope Benedict at the United Nations; and then an even earlier pope.

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/DI%201/untitled.jpg

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/DI%201/ap_pope_un_080414_ssh.jpg

Roman denarius, with Caesar's crown of authority; and Caesar wearing the crown.

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/DI%201/AdenariusofAugustuscoronacivica.jpg

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/DI%201/caesar_denarius.jpg

A sculpture of Caesar Augustus, wearing the Roman crown.

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/DI%201/caesaraugustuswithcoronacivica.jpg

Now remember how John was shown the title that's written on the prostitute's forehead:

MYSTERY
BABYLON THE GREAT
THE MOTHER OF PROSTITUTES
AND OF THE ABOMINATIONS OF THE EARTH.

Abominations of the earth: Think hard about the forum that you're sitting in when you look at this next picture. This picture was attached to a particular news article - where the Roman Catholic church was asked, if "aliens" do exist, then is Jesus Christ the Savior of aliens also? Since the alien is dressed to look like a Roman Catholic saint, would that mean their answer is "yes"?

http://i400.photobucket.com/albums/pp85/zlingshot/DI%201/6a00d83451586c69e201287579ff21970c-.jpg

Think about it. The Roman Catholic church has been identified in the Book of Revelation as an imposter; a spiritual prostitute; the mother of prostitutes; and the mother of the abominations of the earth. And Jesus Christ has warned us that the devil has led the "whole world" astray. And the people in this forum are convinced that their ideas are coming from some fella named David Icke - who is only a mere human being.

"Believing in aliens not opposed to Christianity, Vatican's Top Astronomer says"

http://www.catholicnewsagency.com/news/believing_in_aliens_not_opposed_to_christianity_va ticans_top_astronomer_says/

"Vatican Astronomer says if aliens exist, they may not need redemption"

http://www.catholicnews.com/data/stories/cns/0802629.htm

Etc etc.

Just Google "catholic alien".

The Mother of the Abominations of the Earth.

Even without any 'official' political power, the Roman Catholic church was still able to carry out the Roman papal crusades and inquisitions - where she tortured and murdered millions of people, each one considered an enemy of the pope. Now, once again, she has both the political and religious power that she had under the Emperors of Rome - except this time, SHE is the sole ruler of the Roman Empire (riding on the back of a scarlet coloured beast).








BRILLIANT POST.
You have very good decernment.
Ive always suspected its RC church.

My suspicions are : that when the anti-c signs that FALSE peace treaty -
then breaks it.... that`s when Rome will get destroyed...
but whether that will be at the hands of the ZIONISTS or Islam... it would
perhaps be foolish to try and guess at the moment.

take care - keep up the good work.


BTW, that `alien` picture is scary !!!!

felakuti
24-03-2010, 01:36 AM
Where is the proof there EVER was a man named Jesus Christ?????

1964
24-03-2010, 01:43 AM
Where is the proof there EVER was a man named Jesus Christ?????

If I tell you I've never seen Him, you'll tell me I have no proof.
If I tell you I have seen Him, you'll say I must be crazy.

So the problem isn't in the answer - the problem is in your question.

thelucifer
24-03-2010, 02:49 AM
60 reasons Iraq is not Babylon

http://www.promiseofhiscoming.com/rac_60_reasons.htm





America, the Babylon by R. A. Coombes

bendoon
24-03-2010, 03:02 AM
Babylon is the world economic system, although if we were to assume that is based in the US then it could mean the actual US.

When Babylon falls the merchants have no one to sell their goods to.

Rev 18:11 And the merchants of the earth shall weep and mourn over her; for no man buyeth their merchandise any more:




http://www.blueletterbible.org/Bible.cfm?b=Rev&c=18&v=1&t=KJV

655321
24-03-2010, 08:37 AM
http://freeordie.org/wp-content/uploads/2010/01/George-Washington-Freemason1.jpg

What about all the founding fathers being freemasons? What about the Washington DC pentagram?