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willnotbesilenced
20-03-2010, 12:42 PM
This is NOT going to be an easy post - either for me as the poster or everyone else as readers.

I therefore do please ask that everyone tries their best to understand that it is NOT my intention here to single out any group, culture, or faith but rather to try and offer everyone a fuller picture about GOD in PROPHECY and how HE can bring about JUDGEMENT on our very sinful world.

I would apologise `in advance` should I fail to word things in the most educated way. I do not wish to cause mis-understandings, nor do I desire to hurt anyone else.


Throughout Prophecy there is a very clear theme of how GOD CAN USE `people` - `faiths` - `earth events` - `nations`and even His own animal creations to bring JUDGEMENT on an unrepentent world.

An unrepentent world means ALL of us. There are no exceptions.

As I have pointed out in the Israel thread (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?t=107939&page=7), I am convinced at the moment that God is using Governments and people from Eastern Europe to bring Judgement on both the U.K. and the U.S. for what those 2 countries leaders, both past and present have done to the people in Palestine.

Just as the people in Palestine lost their homes to an invading force from Eastern Europe, then now too also, are Eastern Europeans flocking to the U.K. (as illegal immigrants)
Even legal immigrants are taking jobs, and the U.K. unemployment continues to soar.
As of yesterday, we read in the news how illegal immigrants are now setting up camps in peoples gardens ! Link (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259279/Residents-powerless-remove-illegal-immigrants-gardens.html)

A similar picture also exists in America.
For several years illegal immigrants have flocked into America from places like Mexico. Legal immigrants take up many of the jobs as the U.S. unemployment figure soars by the day.
In BOTH countries - and due to the financial crisis - created by `the rich men of the world` Americans and Brits are having their homes re-possessed.
In the U.S. we now see `temporary camps` being set up by people who have lost their home, and sometimes even their jobs as well.
THIS MIRRORS WHAT HAPPENED IN PALESTINE, folks.

As I see it here : God is using :

1. Government leaders
2. People from various other countries
3. The bankers

in order to bring Judgement on the U.K. and the U.S. for what they did to the people of Palestine.

The Bible clearly tells us in Numbers 14:18 (http://www.biblestudytools.com/kjv/numbers/14-18.html) that God can visit the iniquity of the fathers upon the children unto the third and fourth generation.

Palestinians are not the only people to have suffered at the hands of America. Let us not forget Iraq, Afghanistan & others around the world.
If we go back further than all of these, look what the white settlers in America did to the Native ingenious people (otherwise known as the Native American Indians) Did they not also steal their land and slaughter ?


NEXT......


For many years we have heard in the news how honey bees are disappearing, and in more recent times the bats also.
In Prophecy we can read how, in end times, there will come to be great FOOD SHORTAGES and PESTILENCES.

The bees are the workers, and if those totally disappear there WILL come to be vast food shortages.
People might not feel so concerned about the bats.... but do the bats not eat bugs & insects ?
So what do you think is going to happen when the bats all disappear ?
Yes thats right, we will see plagues of insects and bugs - which will then seriously affect what little crops there are, and insects can spread many diseases to humans. Yes folks FOOD SHORTAGES and PESTILENCES are at the door just as God forewarned.

So you see, God CAN use his animal creations too in order to bring Judgement on a world who has dishonoured His Name and rejected His Son Yeshua.


NEXT.....


As Christians, and on a daily basis we can read how Christianity is being attacked from so many angles.... from within the schools - from the homosexual community - and from those who just blatantly hate God with a vengence.

Is God not entitled to allow satan to persuade such people to try and wipe Christianity out for a short time?
I would say YES, given how so many mega (so called) Christian ministries have used God on their banner to both `get rich quick` (with their `feel good` - `candy coated gospels`) and also how many of these (so called) Christian groups have BACKED George Bush /Tony Blair when they ILLEGALLY invaded Iraq.
Please remember : satan can only operate `for a short time` and then he too will be destroyed.
But in the meantime, he is doing a mighty fine job of destroying FALSE Christianity - and making the lives of true Christians very difficult.


NEXT......


This brings me now to another topic - and that is Islam.

For many years now we have been hearing people say that `Islam will take over as the main religion in our countries`

If we look at FACTUAL evidence, Islam is in fact the fastest growing religion in the world.
In contrast, Christianity`s numbers are quickly falling.

Within Christianity in the UK, very few are now interested in going to church.
Granted, given all the hypocracy within the churches, we can perhaps understand why that is so.
In America, Christianity is still quite popular - but thousands are attending the wrong kind of Christian ministries (covered in a point I made previously)

In America too, and despite genuine Christians pointing out that America was always a Christian nation (one nation under God) U.S. Presidents have allowed a vast influx of people from around the world, who not only bring in their own culture but also their own religion.
This too has happened in the U.K. where many areas are now predominently multi-cultural.

When we can see the injustices of events like the invasion of Iraq, then not surprisingly people become very angry (just as we would if others invaded our country without just cause)
People from Middle Eastern countries who follow Islam can see the injustices, and greed, and immorality in the West - and not surprisingly therefore they feel that they might be the ones who God is calling upon to change all these things for the better - video

On a daily basis, we keep reading about Government `bail outs` and how individual bankers and CEO`s have been awarded mega bonus`s.
Maybe this is as good a time as any to point out that this would NOT be possible if it were not for the fact that OUR banks operate under a `USARY` system, whereas in Islam, they do NOT have usary.

Might God be tired of all the GREED ?
Might God be using the bankers to bring down the evil usary system ?
Or (looking at it from another angle) God is allowing satan to do so.
When our systems fail - I cant help but wonder might this be the point where Islam jumps in, and brings in their own non-usary banking, and no doubt with it their Shaih Law - to replace what is now considered by everyone (except those who are benefitting) `a very CORRUPT system of things`


My own personal opinion here on ALL of the foregoing topics is this :

GOD can use WHO, or WHAT He so chooses, and at a time He decides....

OR, looking at it from another angle :

GOD can allow satan (as Scripture says) `a short period of time` in which to destroy all the evil, so that people will truly see that GOD IS ONE, and we all in subjection to His Laws.

Therefore, YOU must decide as to whether ALL of these things are GOD`s
direct JUDGEMENTS.....
OR: whether by God allowing satan that period of time..... he is allowing satan`s system TO DESTROY ITSELF.

From a Christian perspective I do not believe that God necessarily condones all of the people He uses (OR, allows satan to use)

For example : it would go against common logic if we were to foolishly believe that God would condone homosexuality just so as to destroy false Christianity. In the longer term, I believe that those people will have no choice than to come to their knees and realise that God`s Creation was built on the basis of `male and female` and not on any diversions of that.

Nor do I believe, as a Christian, that God condones any person (or Faith group) who does NOT accept that He sent His SON into this world to die for the sins of mankind. I do believe that all those, whoever they are, who believe differently will be made to see otherwise in the future.

But in the meantime...... God can use WHO He likes and when He likes.
This is never more clear than in this Biblical text :-

Acts 2:17
And it shall come to pass in the last days, saith God, I will pour out of my Spirit upon all flesh: and your sons and your daughters shall prophesy , and your young men shall see visions, and your old men shall dream dreams :


The words `ALL FLESH` clearly does NOT mean Christians only.
Therefore, whether it be some Native American indian - who clearly believes in the Creator..... or whether it be a Muslim who tells us that their Prophet Muhammed who was illiterate, had visions at 12 years of age..... then all we can do is look at what these - and others - say.

If what any of them say lines up with GOD`s creation - and with events that we see happening in the world (and agrees with Prophecy) - then chances are, yes those are messages from GOD.
But if anyone tells us `a different thing` then we must test the spirit accordingly, whilst SATAN can indeed be very, very persuasive.


What is certain - and whether people believe it or not - is that there is going to be repercussions for all of the bad things that are being done, both in the name of POLITICS, and in the name of RELIGIONS.

As nations we have collectively in one way or another fallen for various types of IMMORALITY - some countries more so than others, yes.

Can we expect God to allow to go unpunished the millions of ABORTIONS that result from gross immorality ?

Can we expect God to allow to go unpunished the loss of innocent lives in countries like IRAQ ?

God is very clear in Scripture that `those who kill by the sword will DIE by the sword` - and that doesnt merely refer to just the word `sword` as some might think - but rather I`m sure we could all replace that word by words such as `abortionists tools` - `cluster bombs` - and `WMD`


What is also clear from Scripture is that if people will REPENT, then God will heal a nation - but unless they do..... then end time events are surely at our door.




2 Chronicles 7:14
If my people, which are called by my name, shall humble themselves, and pray , and seek my face, and turn from their wicked ways; then will I hear from heaven, and will forgive their sin, and will heal their land.

jesusistruth
20-03-2010, 04:01 PM
http://ezinearticles.com/?Bible-Prophecy-Fulfilled:-Israel-1948&id=449317

orlibonurb
20-03-2010, 04:25 PM
http://ezinearticles.com/?Bible-Prophecy-Fulfilled:-Israel-1948&id=449317

+1

I like Britt Gillette's website, got it here somewhere in the favs,

http://brittgillette.com/WordPress/

Anyways, Israel back in the land (14, May, 1948) and one generation will not pass away until all be fulfilled (His second coming included). Out of all generations here we are. Ahh, quite amazing. We'll soon meet the Lord, oh boyyyyyyy !


Have you surrended your heart to Jesus yet, jesusistruth ?!

(sorry for going of topic willnotbesilenced, I do agree with your post by the way).

jesusistruth
20-03-2010, 04:30 PM
Have you surrended your heart to Jesus yet, jesusistruth ?!


No because I don't feel like preaching they will all go to hell.


(sorry for going of topic willnotbesilenced, I do agree with your post by the way).


Except it contradicts with Britt Gilette


As I have pointed out in the Israel thread, I am convinced at the moment that God is using Governments and people from Eastern Europe to bring Judgement on both the U.K. and the U.S. for what those 2 countries leaders, both past and present have done to the people in Palestine.

Perhaps even Hitler was God's way of bringing the Jews back to the promised land.

orlibonurb
20-03-2010, 04:41 PM
It doesn't contradict one bit. Quite the opposite.

God's methods of bringing judgment on an unrepentant world is always the same. It happened with the Jews back then, being ruled by the Babylonians, the Romans, etc.

Same thing now, we get the governments we deserve.

Sin brings total destruction to a society.

A father tells his son not to do "X" and "Y" thing because he'll get into major trouble, and the kid decides to go his own way, only to face the inevitable truth. He gets in trouble and realises his father was right.

God gives us His word, He knows better. We just want to go our own way. Pride and arrogance is a beauty ................ not.

As the saying goes - "one thing mas has learned from history is that he has not learned anything from it".

We are headed towards the last judgment and consequent end of "man's age". Jesus Himself will rule the entire world with a rod of iron - what is known as the "Millenium Kingdom", right before eternity on earth.


No because I don't feel like preaching they will all go to hell.

So you do rather prefer to end up there. Makes sense.

jesusistruth
20-03-2010, 04:44 PM
It doesn't contradict one bit. Quite the opposite.

God's methods of bringing judgment on an unrepentant world is always the same. It happened with the Jews back then, being ruled by the Babylonians, the Romans, etc.

Same thing now, we get the governments we deserve.

Sin brings total destruction to a society.

A father tells his son not to do "X" and "Y" thing and the kid goes his own way only to then face the inevitable truth. His father was right. God gives us His word, He knows better. We just want to go our own way.

One thing mas has learned from history is that he has not learned anything from it.

According to Britt, the creation of israel is a bible prophecy fulfilled as God wanted it, according to willnotbesilence, the creation of isreal is a crime against mankind and the ones responsible are now being punished. How's it gonna be?

orlibonurb
20-03-2010, 04:52 PM
According to Britt, the creation of israel is a bible prophecy fulfilled as God wanted it, according to willnotbesilence, the creation of isreal is a crime against mankind and the ones responsible are now being punished. How's it gonna be?

I just re-read his post and still didn't get where did he say that Israel being reborn as a nation is a crime against mankind.

In any case, it is indeed a prophecy. Not just one but there are many more about Israel in the end times - not only they would reborn as a nation, but it would also happen in one day (which it did),

Isaiah {66:8} Who hath heard such a thing? who hath seen such things? Shall the earth be made to bring forth in one day? [or] shall a nation be born at once? for as soon as Zion travailed, she brought forth her children.

There are many more prophecies concerning Israel in the latter days (all fulfilled obviously), but the point is, if 'willnotbesilenced' did imply what you said (and I have missed it), then it is completely wrong.

There is the true Church of Christ (which is not a building, but it is composed of all true born-again Christians, Gentiles or Jews) and there is the nation of Israel. Biblically speaking, these two are completely distinct - the Church (true Christians, hypocrites / false converts will stay) will be taken out of here and God will deal with Israel in the last 7 years period, called the time of 'Jacob's Trouble'.

Israel back in the land is, most definatly, prophecy fulfilled all over the place. In fact, it marks the final countdown towards the last judgment. God always gives us signs (only Him can give prophecy in advance, be it hundreds or thousands of hundreds of years before it happens) so we can

1. know who He really is.

Isaiah {45:5} I [am] the LORD, and [there is] none else, [there is] no God beside me: I girded thee, though thou hast not known me:

2. Prepare and warn others.

Matthew {24:37} But as the days of Noe [were,] so shall also the coming of the Son of man be. {24:38} For as in the days that were before the flood they were eating and drinking, marrying and giving in marriage, until the day that Noe entered into the ark, {24:39} And knew not until the flood came, and took them all away; so shall also the coming of the Son of man be.

jesusistruth
20-03-2010, 05:03 PM
I just re-read his post and still didn't get where did he say that Israel being reborn as a nation is a crime against mankind.

He pleads for the palestinians, who's land the Israelites took.

So you do rather prefer to end up there. Makes sense.

Or it just doesn't seem realistic/sane.

willnotbesilenced
20-03-2010, 06:56 PM
According to Britt, the creation of israel is a bible prophecy fulfilled as God wanted it, according to willnotbesilence, the creation of isreal is a crime against mankind and the ones responsible are now being punished. How's it gonna be?




I invite you and Orli to debate it (lol) :D


Who dare comment on this.....
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058735072#post1058735072

orlibonurb
20-03-2010, 07:01 PM
There's no possible debate. The Word of God stands for truth.

Israel being reborn as a nation is prophesied all over the place. Simply because God is not done with Israel, quite the contrary.

There's nothing to comment on Revelation 2:9 and 3:9, it's self explanatory. That has nothing to do with God's plan with Israel.

Daniel 9:24-27 ..........................

willnotbesilenced
20-03-2010, 07:25 PM
There's no possible debate. The Word of God stands for truth.

Israel being reborn as a nation is prophesied all over the place. Simply because God is not done with Israel, quite the contrary.

There's nothing to comment on Revelation 2:9 and 3:9, it's self explanatory. That has nothing to do with God's plan with Israel.

Daniel 9:24-27 ..........................





So WHO are they ?
WHO is those Biblical texts referring to ?

You need to brush up on your history.
Those Kaiser Jews from Eastern Europe ONLY CONVERTED TO JUDAISM - THAT IS NOT THE SAME AS BEING JEWISH BY BIRTH.
They`re the ones who went to the newly formed State of Israel.... so in fact they are NOT Jews at all - and there you have your answer to Revelation texts.

Yes of course we can see it in Prophecy because GOD KNEW IN ADVANCE WHAT MEN WOULD DO. Thats what Prophecy is.... HISTORY WRITTEN IN ADVANCE.

Same way that God knew there would be wars & rumours of wars....
Same way that God knew that there`d be `a mark of the beast`
So also did God know that ppl would go to that land and set up a State of their own.

Converting to Judaism does not make someone a `Jewish by birth` Orli.

No disrespect you do need to check this out and youll find out I am right.

I was once where you are now.

I used to argue furiously with a Christian friend of mine. He tried to warn me about the ZIONIST POLITICAL State.... but I found it so hard to understand, because all I kept thinking was : `this cant be right.... because Yeshua was a Jew.... and He lived in that part of the world`
- and then one day the light switched on.... and I started to realise what was what, especially when I read the history about the Kaiser Jews.

WHY do you think so many Jews around the world are AGAINST the political State of Israel ??????
They WONT move there.....
Neither will those Iranian Jews go to Israel either....

Have you ever heard what Rabbi Weiss has to say about the political State of Israel ?
Go on YouTube.... type in : Rabbi Weiss (the vids should still be on there)

WHY do you think all those JEWS attended the Iranian Presidents `Holocaust Conference` ?????

These Jews are REAL Jews BY BIRTH..... not just by some conversation because had they converted to Islam... then the Christians would have been angry... and had they converted to Christianity... then they`d have had the Muslims to contend with - SO THEY CONVERTED TO JUDAISM.
That does not make them a Jew.

willnotbesilenced
20-03-2010, 07:31 PM
ISRAEL, JEWS AND ''ANTI-SEMITISM"

One of the greatest tools of a "misinformation" artist is the "Racist" label. If someone attacks your platform and questions your motives just call him a racist and the majority of his audience tunes out what he has to say. One of the masters of this are those Jews who constantly promote political Zionism. Contrary to the "public" line, the majority of the people that have "occupied" Israel are not real Jewish people in a strict sense.


"It is important for us to understand that Jews are not one race of people. There are two distinct groups of Jews in the world and they come from two different areas of the world - the Sephardic Jews from the Middle East and North Africa, and the Ashkenazim (singular, Ashkenazi) Jews from Eastern Europe.

The Sephardic is the oldest group and it is they, if any, who are the Jews described in the Bible. They are blood relatives to the Arabs - the only difference between them is religion. (*These Sephardic or Middle Eastern Jews, the descendants of Abraham, had a tragic history of oppression and dispersion under four major empires, i.e., the Babylonian, the Medo-Persian, the Greek and the Roman Empire).

The Ashkenazim Jews, who now comprise 90% of the Jews in the world, had a rather strange beginning. According to historians, many of them Jewish, the Ashkenazim Jews came into existence about 1200 years ago. It happened this way:

At the eastern edge of Europe, there lived a tribe of people known as the Khazars. About the year 740 A.D., the Khazar king and his court decided they should adopt a religion for their people. So, representatives of the three major religions, Christianity, Islam and Judaism, were invited to present their religious doctrines. The Khazars chose Judasim, but it wasn't for religious reasons. If the Khazars had chosen Islam, they would have angered the strong Christian world. If the Khazars had chosen Christianity, they would have angered the strong Islamic world. So, they played it safe: they chose Judaism. It wasn't for religious reasons the Khazars chose Judaism; it was for political reasons.

Sometime during the 13th Century, the Khazars were driven from their land and they migrated westward with most of them settling in Poland and Russia. These Khazars are now known as Ashkenazim Jews. Because these Khazar (Ashkenazim) Jews merely chose Judaism, they are not, in the strictest sense, really Jews: at least not blood Jews. Throughout their history, these Polish and Russian Ashkenazim Jews practiced socialism and worked to have their ideas implemented in these countries. By the late 1800s significant numbers of these socialist Jews were found in Germany, the Balkans and eventually all over Europe. Because of their interference in the social and governmental affairs of Russia, they became the target of persecution by the Czars. Because of this, migration of these socialist oriented Jews began. Some went to Palestine; some went to Central and South America; and a large number of them came to the U.S.

The bottom line is that the Ashkenazim Jews' claim to Israel as their "birthright" place of origin is not correct. The Sephardics (or the Middle Eastern, or Palestinian Jews) are the "birthright" citizens of Israel. But the Ashkenazim Jews are the most militant, have the most money and are able to manipulate the governments of the world.

orlibonurb
20-03-2010, 08:34 PM
That has absolutely nothing to do with what I said.

All I'm saying is that,

1. The living God is not done with Israel. Since the cross we live in the "Church Age". The 70th week of Daniel is all about bringing Israel back to it's Old Covenant relationship with Jesus.

2. He knows those who say they are Jews but are not.

3. Israel being reborn as a nation was prophesied all over the place.

That is all.


Jesusistruth said,

According to Britt, the creation of israel is a bible prophecy fulfilled as God wanted it, according to willnotbesilence, the creation of isreal is a crime against mankind and the ones responsible are now being punished. How's it gonna be?

Which you have replied to saying,

I invite you and Orli to debate it (lol) :D


Who dare comment on this.....
http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058735072#post1058735072

Now, what is there to debate ? That there are countless prophecies concerning Israel's reborn as a nation (which would a major sign refering to the "end times") ? That is the issue 'jesusistruth' brought up, not who the real Jews are. We are talking about "apples" and you're talking about "onions" lol .... in other words, noone is debating who the real Jews are ......... check what is marked in 'red color', that is the "issue" which he brought up ......

elirien
20-03-2010, 09:24 PM
Just curious. How would you both reply to Is-Ra-El as an acronym for Isis-Ra-El two egyptian one hebrew name written down by a jew who had grown up in Egypt called Moshe.

Think about it. It sounds like rather like "Godly kingdom" as a name rather then a worldly kingdom on a geographical location.

What do you guys thing?

orlibonurb
20-03-2010, 09:31 PM
Just curious. How would you both reply to Is-Ra-El as an acronym for Isis-Ra-El two egyptian one hebrew name written down by a jew who had grown up in Egypt called Moshe.

Think about it. It sounds like rather like "Godly kingdom" as a name rather then a worldly kingdom on a geographical location.

What do you guys thing?

That is a complete hoax from the Freemason agent Jordan Maxwell,

New Age Infiltration of the Truth Movement part 1
New Age Infiltration of the Truth Movement part 1 - YouTube

I don't know if you have seen this documentary, it's really good. The part exposing Is-Ra-El as the farse it is, can be found towards the end of this video series.

Beware of these agents infiltrating the truth movement (A. Jones, M. Tsarion, J. Maxwell, D. Icke, etc).

tannah
20-03-2010, 09:45 PM
That is a complete hoax from the Freemason agent Jordan Maxwell,

New Age Infiltration of the Truth Movement part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLZngPUUeqs

I don't know if you have seen this documentary, it's really good. The part exposing Is-Ra-El as the farse it is, can be found towards the end of this video series.

Beware of these agents infiltrating the truth movement (A. Jones, M. Tsarion, J. Maxwell, D. Icke, etc).

beware also of Orlibonurb, for he too speaketh pile of bullox.

elirien
20-03-2010, 11:04 PM
That is a complete hoax from the Freemason agent Jordan Maxwell,

New Age Infiltration of the Truth Movement part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLZngPUUeqs
I don't know if you have seen this documentary, it's really good. The part exposing Is-Ra-El as the farse it is, can be found towards the end of this video series.

Beware of these agents infiltrating the truth movement (A. Jones, M. Tsarion, J. Maxwell, D. Icke, etc).

Thank you. We already had watched this video (and many others by Chris White), we didn't watch it again but rather get the argument over here that is:

"Another error is that Ben claims Israel is a word combination of the God's Isis (Is), Ra (ra), and El (el) spelling Israel. This poor argument comes from the Theosophist Jordan Maxwell. The problem is "Isis" is a reconstruction of her Egyptian name. The correct pronunciation of her name is "-uesat". Isis was not pronounced "Is-is" in ancient Egypt. That pronunciation comes from Greek and Coptic, languages that comes centuries after Hebrew. This is enough evidence to show how incorrect Ben is. Either Ben blindly repeats Maxwell's bad research, or he is lying to the viewer."

source: Keith Truth (Thompson was his real surname we guess) blog

http://keithtruth.blogspot.com/2008/12/review-and-critique-of-film-esoteric.html

How would one translate the word Isis to Hebrew from Ancient Egyptian? Does pronunciation play any role in this?

This is Kabbalah as far as our meager knowledge goes, kind of older then Jordanus Maximus.

Is-Ra-El, aside what is Israel in Hebrew root meaning then? Doesn't names in Hebrew have root meanings encoded within the characters as for example Moshe - mo water/ she fire or YHVH and YHSVH ?

Thank you very much.

On a general comment on the above mentioned Jones, Tsarion, Maxwell, Icke etc. even besides some of them having affiliations and even membership in some secret societies again thus are here to implement the fake resistance to the fake world order. Why fake? Because that which is, is far more supreme then some manifestation.

Icke for example still sees a gap between what he is talking about ancient texts and what they mean in the context of both the conditions they were written in and also in case of the bible also the local idioms. They make huge difference out of context especially in the song of songs for example.

Sorry for the off topic rant :D

elirien
20-03-2010, 11:05 PM
That is a complete hoax from the Freemason agent Jordan Maxwell,

New Age Infiltration of the Truth Movement part 1
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hLZngPUUeqs
I don't know if you have seen this documentary, it's really good. The part exposing Is-Ra-El as the farse it is, can be found towards the end of this video series.

Beware of these agents infiltrating the truth movement (A. Jones, M. Tsarion, J. Maxwell, D. Icke, etc).

beware also of Orlibonurb, for he too speaketh pile of bullox.

You guys should marry :D:D

tannah
20-03-2010, 11:25 PM
You guys should marry :D:D

Oh yes.:D A pre-rapture wedding with pre-rapture presents!

cinder_darkskys
20-03-2010, 11:31 PM
Topic tracker

Wonderful topic and post

orlibonurb
21-03-2010, 12:33 AM
On a general comment on the above mentioned Jones, Tsarion, Maxwell, Icke etc. even besides some of them having affiliations and even membership in some secret societies again thus are here to implement the fake resistance to the fake world order. Why fake? Because that which is, is far more supreme then some manifestation.

Icke for example still sees a gap between what he is talking about ancient texts and what they mean in the context of both the conditions they were written in and also in case of the bible also the local idioms. They make huge difference out of context especially in the song of songs for example.

Sorry for the off topic rant :D

Yes, they are totally fake.

J. Maxwell is a Freemason,

A. Jones I've seen information linking him to the CIA and the Jesuit Order (being merely a coadjutor),

M. Tsarion is a Rosicrucian.

last but not the least, David Icke is the son of god !

David Icke "I am the son of GOD"??
NWO FILES -David Icke "I am the son of GOD"?? - YouTube


Real truthers have no place on Tell-A-Vision, they get shot, they get silenced, etc. Big names are William Cooper, Eric Jon Phelps, craig oxley, Jim Arrabito, Alberto Rivera, Walter Veith, etc. Interestingly enough, these are / were all born-again Christians.

On youtube you can find great guys such as, Keithtruth, Chris White (knowheretorun1984) and 'anonymoustruther' all born-again Christians too.

"Oddly" enough, all agents in the truth seeking movement are against Christianity. Oh shocker !

elirien
21-03-2010, 12:11 PM
Yes, they are totally fake.

J. Maxwell is a Freemason,

A. Jones I've seen information linking him to the CIA and the Jesuit Order (being merely a coadjutor),

M. Tsarion is a Rosicrucian.

last but not the least, David Icke is the son of god !

David Icke "I am the son of GOD"??
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Tgoya1kmFJE

Real truthers have no place on Tell-A-Vision, they get shot, they get silenced, etc. Big names are William Cooper, Eric Jon Phelps, craig oxley, Jim Arrabito, Alberto Rivera, Walter Veith, etc. Interestingly enough, these are / were all born-again Christians.

On youtube you can find great guys such as, Keithtruth, Chris White (knowheretorun1984) and 'anonymoustruther' all born-again Christians too.

"Oddly" enough, all agents in the truth seeking movement are against Christianity. Oh shocker !

True in a way Orlibonurb but lets keep it in the context of the topic if you'd like. Perhaps we could discuss that in another topic in detail.

What do you think of this:

Is-Ra-El aside, what is Israel in Hebrew root meaning then? Doesn't names in Hebrew have root meanings encoded within the characters as for example Moshe - mo water/ she fire or YHVH and YHSVH ?

This would help your bible study perhaps. Would you look into it? Just asking.

Please if anyone especially anyone knowing Hebrew would comment on this as well it would be most welcome.