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willnotbesilenced
20-03-2010, 12:29 AM
Residents powerless to remove illegal immigrants from their gardens
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259279/Residents-powerless-remove-illegal-immigrants-gardens.html#ixzz0ifiXefKI
As I said in another thread earlier today - I swear its `pay back time` - so that people can see first hand how the Palestian people felt when BRITAIN set up the 1948 ZIONIST STATE - and allowed people from EASTERN EUROPE to go there - resulting in the Palestians losing their homes.
I did say earlier today `at least they`ve not moved into their homes yet`
Hmm...... but I spoke too soon.... cause they`ve now moved into their GARDENS !!!
This reader response made me laugh :-
The Police are idiots - and the law is an ass.
It just cannot be possible that these people - and it doesn't matter whether they are illegals, tramps, homeless or whatever - they are TRESPASSING.
Trespassing is a criminal offence. The Police must do their job.
I would be invading my local police station, the council office and the garden of my local MP until action was taken against these trespassers.
Are the police really saying that anyone can turn up in a private garden - and NOT be evicted.
Right - so does that mean everyone can invade their local MPs gardens? Time for the Revolution mates - take your sleeping bags and turn up in every MPs gardens. (Lets face it - as tax-payers you've paid for the local MPs house - by rights it belongs to you anyway). :D
TIME FOR JUSTIFIED CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE.
You just CANNOT SIT BACK AND LET YOURSELVES BE DEFEATED, DESTROYED AND HUMILIATED.
It is TIME FOR ACTION. Get off your backsides and take action - NOW.
- Anne Smith UK ex-Pat, Lot-et-Garonne, France, 19/3/2010 19:14
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259279/Residents-powerless-remove-illegal-immigrants-gardens.html#ixzz0ifjdHxIc
griffinman
20-03-2010, 01:30 AM
As I said in another thread earlier today - I swear its `pay back time` - so that people can see first hand how the Palestian people felt when BRITAIN set up the 1948 ZIONIST STATE -
I wouldn't be so smug, looks like Britain was well and truly under control back then.(If you subscribe to that theory)
Like the people had a choice anyway?
That's like saying the reason Greece and Iceland are bankrupt is because the people were greedy and now they're too lazy to pay back the loans.
It's not true; it had nothing what-so-ever to do with the people.
griffinman
20-03-2010, 01:40 AM
what would be funny, is if the illegal immigrants moved into the smug harrow liberal elite's houses/Gardens. I could think of a few posters here who would deserve this too.
lol
They'd soon be shaving their heads..shouting "Kick 'em out.... kick 'em out of my house... and my... my.... MY COUNTRY!" within a week tops.
:D
d9d9d9
20-03-2010, 02:09 AM
"Groups of immigrants have moved into the gardens of at least six properties since November last year, leaving a trail of cider bottles, bags of human waste and drugs needles behind them."
LoL! What a bunch of bullshit... griffinbitch, do you seriously believe this crap from daily mail?
bendoon
20-03-2010, 03:26 AM
As I said in another thread earlier today - I swear its `pay back time` - so that people can see first hand how the Palestian people felt when BRITAIN set up the 1948 ZIONIST STATE - and allowed people from EASTERN EUROPE to go there - resulting in the Palestians losing their homes.
Well thats not quite true, the British tried to stop Jews going to Palestine, they met stiff resistance from Jewish terrorist organisations Irgun and the Stern Gang, after the bombing of the King David Hotel the British gave in and handed everything to the UN.
Lehi (Stern gang) had three main goals:
* to bring together all those interested in liberation (that is, those willing to join in active fighting against the British)
* to appear before the world as the only active Jewish military organization
* to take over the Land of Israel by armed force[12]
Lehi (group) - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia
griffinman
20-03-2010, 04:21 AM
LoL! What a bunch of bullshit... griffinbitch, do you seriously believe this crap from daily mail?
Sigh, yes my internet hardman, not everything in the daily mail is made up.
What kind of reasoning is that?
Usually for these type of stories or for finding the identity of certain people they're pretty good.
Not perfect but better than most.
Editorially speaker I generally disagree with mail. As well as most of the newspapers.
But it's common knowledge that Peterborough has been completely over run with an influx of pikified immigrants.
samina
20-03-2010, 05:34 AM
Fuck the police, they only act if it's you who drive a few km too fast or don't pay your telly licence. When we had gipsies move onto some ground near where I live someone chucked them a couple of molotov cocktails in the middle of the night. They packed up and went the next day.
eternal wheel
20-03-2010, 07:33 AM
Fuck the police, they only act if it's you who drive a few km too fast or don't pay your telly licence.
that's me fucked then. :D
eternal wheel
20-03-2010, 07:39 AM
"Groups of immigrants have moved into the gardens of at least six properties since November last year, leaving a trail of cider bottles, bags of human waste and drugs needles behind them."
LoL! What a bunch of bullshit... griffinbitch, do you seriously believe this crap from daily mail?
do you have evidence to the contrary??
no??
why not invite them into your garden then??
eternal wheel
20-03-2010, 07:41 AM
oh dear, my shed caught fire at 4 a.m.......
snapdragon
20-03-2010, 07:49 AM
"Trespassing is a criminal offence."
In England & Wales, there is no law against trespassing. I don't know about Scotland.
d9d9d9
20-03-2010, 08:50 AM
It's eastern european black irish immigrant jews from pakistan !!! Quick...vote BNP!:rolleyes:
eternal wheel
20-03-2010, 08:57 AM
It's eastern european black irish immigrant jews from pakistan !!! Quick...vote BNP!:rolleyes:
It's eastern european black irish immigrant jews from pakistan !!! Quick...welcome them with open arms, prioritise their needs over local residents, give them free reign to commit crime....
then wonder why people vote BNP in their droves....:rolleyes:
jiffy
20-03-2010, 09:03 AM
Didn't you just know it was the Daily mail reading the Headline.
Some of the self proclaimed "awoken" choose to believe, yet again what the Daily Mail has to say!
One minute it is the MSM that are all part of the Conspiracy the next it's look see what the Daily Mail says
Cognitive..choose what you want to believe as long as it underpins your core beliefs.
Daily Mail/ Sun the most quoted "News" papers on here :mad::rolleyes:
d9d9d9
20-03-2010, 09:08 AM
It's eastern european black irish immigrant jews from pakistan !!! Quick...welcome them with open arms, prioritise their needs over local residents, give them free reign to commit crime....
then wonder why people vote BNP in their droves....:rolleyes:
LoL! ...and Santa is also real...
griffinman
20-03-2010, 01:59 PM
One minute it is the MSM that are all part of the Conspiracy the next it's look see what the Daily Mail says
Cognitive..choose what you want to believe as long as it underpins your core beliefs.
Right, the NWO and the powers that be want 'mass immigration'
and so do you.
You're in agreement.
'Pick'n'mix' time again? My awakened one?
griffinman
20-03-2010, 02:02 PM
It's eastern european black irish immigrant jews from pakistan !!!
Not sure if one exists, but if they do, I'm sure the BBC would employ them as a presenter. Probably give 'em their own series.
That's socialism for you. The coming new world order will be a borderless world. This stuff is to get us used to the idea.
jiffy
20-03-2010, 02:40 PM
Right, the NWO and the powers that be want 'mass immigration'
and so do you.
You're in agreement.
'Pick'n'mix' time again? My awakened one?
If I had even half a clue what any of that meant I would provide a retort :rolleyes:
jiffy
20-03-2010, 02:46 PM
That's socialism for you. The coming new world order will be a borderless world. This stuff is to get us used to the idea.
Really! so Socialism is about a Borderless world?? You just made that up then.
Fascism is a borderless world hence the so called "free trade agreements"
griffinman
20-03-2010, 02:55 PM
If I had even half a clue what any of that meant I would provide a retort :rolleyes:
what what?
Bad show ol' bean.
eternal wheel
20-03-2010, 07:45 PM
LoL! ...and Santa is also real...
yeh, so are chemtrails..:D
so you're saying local authorities DON'T prioritise the needs of imigrants??:rolleyes:
ufochick
20-03-2010, 08:39 PM
The laws in the US very state to state. Some say you have to fence livestock out others say you must fence your livestock in. Where I am to keep hunters and people out you must post no trespassing signs every 500 feet and replace or reposition those signs every 6 months, otherwise people may trespass and hunt on your land.
jiffy
20-03-2010, 11:41 PM
yeh, so are chemtrails..:D
so you're saying local authorities DON'T prioritise the needs of imigrants??:rolleyes:
No councils house people according to the most needy;)
Really! so Socialism is about a Borderless world?? You just made that up then.
Fascism is a borderless world hence the so called "free trade agreements"
Perhaps national socialism isn't borderless - it's international equivalent communism is. Then again the Nazi's were national socialists but are also referred to as fascists.
You might want to have a look at how many of today's promoters of globalisation favour a socialist system.
'Communism is Socialism in a hurry' - Lenin
eternal wheel
21-03-2010, 09:05 AM
No councils house people according to the most needy;)
depends of your definition of 'needy'.......
jiffy
21-03-2010, 09:45 AM
Perhaps national socialism isn't borderless - it's international equivalent communism is. Then again the Nazi's were national socialists but are also referred to as fascists.
You might want to have a look at how many of today's promoters of globalisation favour a socialist system.
'Communism is Socialism in a hurry' - Lenin
Sorry you just sat down and made that all up on your own:confused:.
Socialism is an ideology in it's own right, as is Fascism and Communism.
Hitler "Labelled" his party with "National Socialism" knowing it would fool the people!! it's called "propaganda" Looks like it is still working today.:rolleyes:
I am fully aware which countries promote borderless boundaries. Again your just making this stuff up. Who is the largest promoter of the Free market?? The USA yeah very "Socialistic"
Tell you what walk into Argentina, Venezuela, Paraguay, Denmark, Norway with no papers, see if they welcome you with open arms.
Walk into Cuba, North Korea, China, Russia with no papers see what sort of reception your get.
jiffy
21-03-2010, 09:47 AM
depends of your definition of 'needy'.......
Given that the highest priority is homeless, I would say that was a fairly good definition.
Sorry you just sat down and made that all up on your own:confused:.
Socialism is an ideology in it's own right, as is Fascism and Communism.
Hitler "Labelled" his party with "National Socialism" knowing it would fool the people!! it's called "propaganda" Looks like it is still working today.:rolleyes:
I am fully aware which countries promote borderless boundaries. Again your just making this stuff up. Who is the largest promoter of the Free market?? The USA yeah very "Socialistic"
Tell you what walk into Argentina, Venezuela, Paraguay, Denmark, Norway with no papers, see if they welcome you with open arms.
Walk into Cuba, North Korea, China, Russia with no papers see what sort of reception your get.
You're right about propaganda still working today....
I'm sure I was speaking about the future, as in 'the COMING new world order will be a borderless world', when I made my original statement. Everyone has a different interpretation of all the -isms, my statements were in the context of Marx's Pure Communism which I understand to be for the entire world, where eventually a stateless (and thus borderless) world would arise post-capitalism.
Anyway I'm sure the elites of this world will ensure a synthesis of fascist and communistic elements for their global government after a period of socialism.
soleil
21-03-2010, 12:07 PM
Well thats not quite true, the British tried to stop Jews going to Palestine, they met stiff resistance from Jewish terrorist organisations Irgun and the Stern Gang, after the bombing of the King David Hotel the British gave in and handed everything to the UN.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern_gang
We can forgive anyone not knowing this type of history because the image of British NCOs hanging from Jerusalem lamp posts by piano wire is memory hole history.
cpfc12
21-03-2010, 12:20 PM
Fuck the police, they only act if it's you who drive a few km too fast or don't pay your telly licence. When we had gipsies move onto some ground near where I live someone chucked them a couple of molotov cocktails in the middle of the night. They packed up and went the next day.
call the police now and say your daughter has been kidnapped or something, see if that statement is true ^^
willnotbesilenced
21-03-2010, 12:24 PM
People need to SECURE their gardens.
Had those ppl done that, and the immigrants had BROKE IN the the Law would have had to act.
Similar to squatters - if squatters actually BREAK IN they can be evicted, but if they`ve gained entry through an open window or unlocked door, then its a case of going to Court to get them out.
bendoon
21-03-2010, 12:26 PM
Fuck the police, they only act if it's you who drive a few km too fast or don't pay your telly licence.
Here is something everyone can try at home, put on an Asian accent, phone the police and tell them your neighbour has been calling you a P**i, I can guarantee they will be round within 5 minutes.
cpfc12
21-03-2010, 12:32 PM
Here is something everyone can try at home, put on an Asian accent, phone the police and tell them your neighbour has been calling you a P**i, I can guarantee they will be round within 5 minutes.
Again there is further irony in this
the guardian publish reports along with other liberals on how the police fail race victims and are racist, yet the right wingers, such as the daily mail complain about how the police only respond to racist incidents.
ah it is a funny game the ptb are playing on us.
saying that the police are in a no win situation, either they respond to slowly to such incidents and get called racists, or the other arm chair critics will say its abandoning the whites.
freedom1st
21-03-2010, 12:49 PM
People need to SECURE their gardens.
Had those ppl done that, and the immigrants had BROKE IN the the Law would have had to act.
Similar to squatters - if squatters actually BREAK IN they can be evicted, but if they`ve gained entry through an open window or unlocked door, then its a case of going to Court to get them out.
Yes but if you try to secure your garden in the UK you may get done if the wannabe trespasser hurts himself. You can't use barbed wire or glass, etc and you can't have a fence over a certain height. I'm not making this up btw.
Oh and if a burglar happens to fall through a skylight for example you will have to pay him compensation. Welcome to the lunatic asylum!
zephiloyd
21-03-2010, 01:01 PM
Sorry you just sat down and made that all up on your own:confused:.
Socialism is an ideology in it's own right, as is Fascism and Communism.
Hitler "Labelled" his party with "National Socialism" knowing it would fool the people!! it's called "propaganda" Looks like it is still working today.:rolleyes:
I am fully aware which countries promote borderless boundaries. Again your just making this stuff up. Who is the largest promoter of the Free market?? The USA yeah very "Socialistic"
Tell you what walk into Argentina, Venezuela, Paraguay, Denmark, Norway with no papers, see if they welcome you with open arms.
Walk into Cuba, North Korea, China, Russia with no papers see what sort of reception your get.
Fascism and Communism have been sold to us as political opposites but they are pretty much the same. Marx, Ritter, and Nietzsche were all funded and under the instruction of the Rothschilds. The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies to enable them to divide larger and larger factions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other, and particularly, to destroy all political and religious institutions.
jiffy
21-03-2010, 04:28 PM
Fascism and Communism have been sold to us as political opposites but they are pretty much the same. Marx, Ritter, and Nietzsche were all funded and under the instruction of the Rothschilds. The idea was that those who direct the overall conspiracy could use the differences in those two so-called ideologies to enable them to divide larger and larger factions of the human race into opposing camps so that they could be armed and then brainwashed into fighting and destroying each other, and particularly, to destroy all political and religious institutions.
Interesting "theory" I have seen no historical evidence for your "views"
What ever your "theory" about funding is... Communism, Fascism, Neo-Liberalism and Socialism have differing ideologies.
bendoon
21-03-2010, 04:34 PM
Interesting "theory" I have seen no historical evidence for your "views"
What ever your "theory" about funding is... Communism, Fascism, Neo-Liberalism and Socialism have differing ideologies.
Look up Communitarianism, a synthesis of all the above using the Hegelian system (continual revolution). The above were devised to create opposing factions who unwittingly would be working towards world Government, thinking they were fighting for their own cause but assisting in the path to the final solution.
Twenty-first century communitarianism is a philosophical, political, and legal theory. It combines every opposite theory in the history of the world. It's a projected vision for a new global order by the year 2020. It's what all of us should be socially evolving into.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Raapana/niki4.htm
jiffy
21-03-2010, 04:54 PM
Yes but if you try to secure your garden in the UK you may get done if the wannabe trespasser hurts himself. You can't use barbed wire or glass, etc and you can't have a fence over a certain height. I'm not making this up btw.
Oh and if a burglar happens to fall through a skylight for example you will have to pay him compensation. Welcome to the lunatic asylum!
Hmm rather black and white, one could say very "Daily Mail esk"
It is not illegal to erect barbed or razor wire under the Occupiers
Liability Act 1984 you must take reasonable precautions
to prevent injury to other people, including trespassers.
So putting glass embedded into the top of a wall with no signage would be deemed, not a prevention but a deliberate attempt to harm. (rightly so)
An adjoining fence can not be higher than 6.6 (imperial) without planning permission (again rightly so)
There is NOTHING in law that say's you pay compensation to a trespasser, unless you are deemed to have hidden something deliberately to harm said person. (Again rightly so)
jiffy
21-03-2010, 05:10 PM
Look up Communitarianism, a synthesis of all the above using the Hegelian system (continual revolution). The above were devised to create opposing factions who unwittingly would be working towards world Government, thinking they were fighting for their own cause but assisting in the path to the final solution.
http://www.newswithviews.com/Raapana/niki4.htm
LoL I am afraid I don't share that "theory" either Communitarianism has a Philosophical approach of it's own. It's roots are firmly in the 20th century, it may well derive it's name from an earlier period (Barby I believe:confused:) but thats pretty much were the similarities end ;)
freedom1st
21-03-2010, 08:28 PM
Hmm rather black and white, one could say very "Daily Mail esk"
It is not illegal to erect barbed or razor wire under the Occupiers
Liability Act 1984 you must take reasonable precautions
to prevent injury to other people, including trespassers.
So putting glass embedded into the top of a wall with no signage would be deemed, not a prevention but a deliberate attempt to harm. (rightly so)
An adjoining fence can not be higher than 6.6 (imperial) without planning permission (again rightly so)
There is NOTHING in law that say's you pay compensation to a trespasser, unless you are deemed to have hidden something deliberately to harm said person. (Again rightly so)
I don't read the daily fail.
I got my info from the police following a burglary at my property. They said NO barb wire anywhere. They also said that one can only use reasonable force which in my case meant that I could kill the guy coz I'm a mother,:D hence why I now have a semi-automatic (gas powered) that shoots metal bb's, perfectly legal and so powerful it could kill someone (certainly stop them in their tracks).
I agree with you on the fence height.
There has been compensation paid out and even if you are right in your interpretation of the law, I don't agree with you that it is right. Imo as soon as they cross the threshold they lose all rights.
jiffy
21-03-2010, 09:47 PM
I don't read the daily fail.
I got my info from the police following a burglary at my property. They said NO barb wire anywhere. They also said that one can only use reasonable force which in my case meant that I could kill the guy coz I'm a mother,:D hence why I now have a semi-automatic (gas powered) that shoots metal bb's, perfectly legal and so powerful it could kill someone (certainly stop them in their tracks).
I agree with you on the fence height.
There has been compensation paid out and even if you are right in your interpretation of the law, I don't agree with you that it is right. Imo as soon as they cross the threshold they lose all rights.
Well the Policeman are wrong, I have given you the ACT so you can look it up.
There is case law that proves your compensation claim wrong!! Unless the court deemed the defense measure was there to harm and not prevent
So if your a parent and your child hits a ball over a fence, said child takes it upon themselves to climb fence. On your "idea" Said child is electrocuted because you think that no signage is needed.
The Police and fire brigade are also expected to play Russian roulette every time they need to gain access to a property:confused:
Another point to raise is signage is also a preventative measure, like burglar alarms stuck on a wall ;)
mynameis
21-03-2010, 10:04 PM
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Are the police really saying that anyone can turn up in a private garden - and NOT be evicted.
Right - so does that mean everyone can invade their local MPs gardens? Time for the Revolution mates - take your sleeping bags and turn up in every MPs gardens. (Lets face it - as tax-payers you've paid for the local MPs house - by rights it belongs to you anyway).
No. If you do they are saying it will be trespassing. I don't fathom how this isn't trespassing.
eternal wheel
22-03-2010, 07:14 AM
Given that the highest priority is homeless, I would say that was a fairly good definition.
plenty of homeless in this country already, so how come the imigrants get proirity???
eternal_spirit
22-03-2010, 08:26 AM
plenty of homeless in this country already, so how come the imigrants get proirity???
I always notice you only see homeless white people.
moon monkey
22-03-2010, 08:31 AM
Residents powerless to remove illegal immigrants from their gardens
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259279/Residents-powerless-remove-illegal-immigrants-gardens.html#ixzz0ifiXefKI
As I said in another thread earlier today - I swear its `pay back time` - so that people can see first hand how the Palestian people felt when BRITAIN set up the 1948 ZIONIST STATE - and allowed people from EASTERN EUROPE to go there - resulting in the Palestians losing their homes.
I did say earlier today `at least they`ve not moved into their homes yet`
Hmm...... but I spoke too soon.... cause they`ve now moved into their GARDENS !!!
This reader response made me laugh :-
The Police are idiots - and the law is an ass.
It just cannot be possible that these people - and it doesn't matter whether they are illegals, tramps, homeless or whatever - they are TRESPASSING.
Trespassing is a criminal offence. The Police must do their job.
I would be invading my local police station, the council office and the garden of my local MP until action was taken against these trespassers.
Are the police really saying that anyone can turn up in a private garden - and NOT be evicted.
Right - so does that mean everyone can invade their local MPs gardens? Time for the Revolution mates - take your sleeping bags and turn up in every MPs gardens. (Lets face it - as tax-payers you've paid for the local MPs house - by rights it belongs to you anyway). :D
TIME FOR JUSTIFIED CIVIL DISOBEDIENCE.
You just CANNOT SIT BACK AND LET YOURSELVES BE DEFEATED, DESTROYED AND HUMILIATED.
It is TIME FOR ACTION. Get off your backsides and take action - NOW.
- Anne Smith UK ex-Pat, Lot-et-Garonne, France, 19/3/2010 19:14
Read more: http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1259279/Residents-powerless-remove-illegal-immigrants-gardens.html#ixzz0ifjdHxIc
Trespass in not a criminal offence. It's punishable only in the civil sense.
eternal_spirit
22-03-2010, 08:35 AM
......Originally Posted by bendoon http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/buttons_green/viewpost.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058733726#post1058733726)
Well thats not quite true, the British tried to stop Jews going to Palestine, they met stiff resistance from Jewish terrorist organisations Irgun and the Stern Gang, after the bombing of the King David Hotel the British gave in and handed everything to the UN.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Stern_gang
..............
nirvana
22-03-2010, 09:21 AM
plenty of homeless in this country already, so how come the imigrants get proirity???
Because councils and landlords get resettlement grants etc. For housing Asylum seekers etc.
If its local people they get less money from government:rolleyes:
nirvana
22-03-2010, 09:23 AM
I always notice you only see homeless white people.
Well take alook at london .Most of the homeless hostels prefer asylum seekers now because of the resettlement grants etc. In some cases alot of homeless hostels just have asylum seekers etc in
soleil
22-03-2010, 10:53 AM
Well take alook at london .Most of the homeless hostels prefer asylum seekers now because of the resettlement grants etc. In some cases alot of homeless hostels just have asylum seekers etc in
To paraphrase an Arab saying with some irony, it is better to be the British Establishment's enemy than friend because it will try to buy you while it will sell out its friends.
boy better know
22-03-2010, 12:44 PM
Leave them be.
guuna
22-03-2010, 02:00 PM
No. If you do they are saying it will be trespassing. I don't fathom how this isn't trespassing.
It's only trespassing if it suits them(ptb's)
if the property of Gordon Brown or a prominant city banker was similarly treated, believe you me it WOULD be trespass and the offenders would be arrested before you could say ORWELLIAN SUPERSTATE.
More problem reaction solution from ZanuLabour.