Fake Blue Peter Phone-in

[hagbard_celine]

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/main.jhtml?xml=/news/2007/03/15/nblue15.xml

As I mentioned on the Paul McCartney thread, Blue Peter have fooled their young viewers before with replacing Petra the puppy. Maybe they were justified in doing that, but there's no excuse for this new piece of duplicity!

I wonder how many other things on TV are fake, which don't get found out.:confused: I know for a fact that some documentaries are staged because of the Family Confidential scandal. Family Confidential was a fly-on-the-wall documentary on the life and times of an ordinary family. This was advertized and shown in the format of a documentary; not a docu-drama with a cast list at the end like "Ghostwatch" or "War of the Worlds", the viewers were told it was a documentary. I mostly disagree with Mary Whitehouse, but I'm full of admiration for her this time because she exposed it as a fake. All the people in it were actors, the characters were made-up and it was scripted.

[weirdwolf71]

Well, I work in television in the editing side of things and stuff like this is really no shock.

Even documentaries which are supposed to be just off the cuff type stuff are still 'directed' and 'handled' so that the filmmakers can make a cohesive programme that will flow as well as possible.

The priority always is to get what they need on tape, so if they don't catch something they may need, they will re-set the situation, get cameras into position and do another 'take' from an angle they need to be able to cut it together.

Everything in tele is all about making a tv programme, including where real people/situations are involved. In the edit suite, almost anything goes as regards sexing up a scene or whatever. There's no evil intent, just producer/directors trying to make an interesting programme out of what they've got.:D

[chris]

I love how Blue Peter is always trying to sell it to kids to get into the army. This young indoctrination works, a few of my friends fell for it...

[john white]

Everything in tele is all about making a tv programme

good place for a spot of focus:

PROGRAM

pro·gram /ˈproʊgræm, -grəm/ Pronunciation Key - Show Spelled Pronunciation[proh-gram, -gruhm] Pronunciation Key - Show IPA Pronunciation noun, verb, -grammed or -gramed, -gram·ming or -gram·ing.
–noun

1. a plan of action to accomplish a specified end
2. a plan or schedule of activities, procedures, etc., to be followed.
3. a radio or television performance or production.
4. a list of items, pieces, performers, etc., in a musical, theatrical, or other entertainment.
5. an entertainment with reference to its pieces or numbers: a program of American and French music.
6. a planned, coordinated group of activities, procedures, etc., often for a specific purpose, or a facility offering such a series of activities: a drug rehabilitation program; a graduate program in linguistics.
7. a prospectus or syllabus: a program of courses being offered.
8. Computers. a. a systematic plan for the automatic solution of a problem by a computer.
b. the precise sequence of instructions enabling a computer to solve a problem.

–verb (used with object) 9. to schedule as part of a program.
10. Computers. to prepare a program for.
11. to insert or encode specific operating instructions into (a machine or apparatus):
12. to insert (instructions) into a machine or apparatus:
13. to cause to absorb or incorporate automatic responses, attitudes, or the like; condition
14. to set, regulate, or modify so as to produce a specific response or reaction
–verb (used without object)
15. to plan or write a program.


including where real people/situations are involved. In the edit suite, almost anything goes as regards sexing up a scene or whatever. There's no evil intent, just producer/directors trying to make an interesting programme out of what they've got

Thats one way of looking at it, and i'm sure your perception of how it looks from the inside is correct, as you report it

However, what your actually saying is there is no (obvious) awareness of "evil intent". What you are not saying is that a cavalier attitude to truth, accuracy, honesty and integrity always degrades and creates the fertile ground for "evil intent" (better defined as "imposition"), becuase it creates the mutability in which manipulation and the sumblimation of individual self responsibility to subtle unconscious drives can occur

Ever heard of Eddie Bernays? Or studied Aldous Huxley's speeches and writings? Brezinski discussing technotronics? Could be a good idea, to get a look see what your oblivous collegues are most likely unknowingly caught up in when it comes to the applied use of the programming power of TV

[spacegurl]

There's no evil intent, just producer/directors trying to make an interesting programme out of what they've got.:D

Yes there is :)

If you actually study a programme on TV and I don't mean sitting there watching it for entertainment, you'll see many subliminal messages and indoctrination going on. Tv shows are edited for that very reason, and also to distort reality. People's interviews are edited and chopped and pasted so that it makes this person come across a certain way. Editing is part and parcel of this brainwashing process, not just the graphics. It's strange that someone who happens to work in the editing side of TV doesn't understand this. They don't edit purely for editing and looking stylish.

[chris]

Since I've been fasting for the last 4 weeks, I have found myself watching the X factor:mad:

The conditioning in that program is incredible. Not just the obvious, celebrity worship techniques but the real major difference is that they build up these stories for each contestant where they are building on their sympathy and each of them is literally telling you their lifestory in the first minute of seeing them. What's up with that?

[resistance]

Yes there is :)

If you actually study a programme on TV and I don't mean sitting there watching it for entertainment, you'll see many subliminal messages and indoctrination going on. Tv shows are edited for that very reason, and also to distort reality. People's interviews are edited and chopped and pasted so that it makes this person come across a certain way. Editing is part and parcel of this brainwashing process, not just the graphics. It's strange that someone who happens to work in the editing side of TV doesn't understand this. They don't edit purely for editing and looking stylish.

I will second that, tv creates illusion and thus programmes peoples minds into a false sense of reality, i'm sorry but saying there is no evil intent or ulterior motive is either very naive of yu or yu have worked in TV too long.

[chris]

I heard when the missionarys hit Africa to feed these primative peoples the magick of television christianity, these primative people couldn't even see the picture because their minds were working fast enough to see it's all flickering images.

It took a while but we civilised those idiots.