Email regarding EDL march in Bolton...

[theoutlawjournalist]

This little gem was mailed out to all students at my University today...


"The racist hooligans of the English Defence League (EDL) have rescheduled their plans to descend on Bolton for Saturday 20 March. Unite Against Fascism has called a national counter demonstration for all those who want to defend our multiracial society against the EDL's thuggery and violence.

North West UAF has launched a Bolton Unity Statement condemning the EDL and calling on people to support and attend the demonstration against the racists in Bolton on 20 March. Signatories include MPs, trade unionists and campaigners such as Bolton MP Ruth Kelly and Manchester MPs John Leech, Tony Lloyd and Gerald Kaufman.

The EDL had threatened to come to Bolton on 6 March this year. An EDL spokesperson interviewed in the Lancashire Telegraph refused to rule out violence and confirmed that the openly Nazi thugs from Combat 18 were regulars on EDL demos. But this demo was cancelled when the EDL realised its thugs would go on the rampage against a Hindu festival in Bolton planned that day.

Unite Against Fascism believes the EDL should not be allowed to terrorise ethnic minorities in Bolton or anywhere else. Join our demonstration to show these racists and fascists that they are not welcome in the town. Meet 11am on Saturday 20 March at Victoria Square in Bolton.

Come along to the meeting on Thursday to sign up for the coach up there and to hear and discuss why the BNP and EDL should be resisted everywhere they proliferate."



Racist hooligans? Answers on a postcard please...

[ginge51]

This little gem was mailed out to all students at my University today...


"The racist hooligans of the English Defence League (EDL) have rescheduled their plans to descend on Bolton for Saturday 20 March. Unite Against Fascism has called a national counter demonstration for all those who want to defend our multiracial society against the EDL's thuggery and violence.

North West UAF has launched a Bolton Unity Statement condemning the EDL and calling on people to support and attend the demonstration against the racists in Bolton on 20 March. Signatories include MPs, trade unionists and campaigners such as Bolton MP Ruth Kelly and Manchester MPs John Leech, Tony Lloyd and Gerald Kaufman.

The EDL had threatened to come to Bolton on 6 March this year. An EDL spokesperson interviewed in the Lancashire Telegraph refused to rule out violence and confirmed that the openly Nazi thugs from Combat 18 were regulars on EDL demos. But this demo was cancelled when the EDL realised its thugs would go on the rampage against a Hindu festival in Bolton planned that day.

Unite Against Fascism believes the EDL should not be allowed to terrorise ethnic minorities in Bolton or anywhere else. Join our demonstration to show these racists and fascists that they are not welcome in the town. Meet 11am on Saturday 20 March at Victoria Square in Bolton.

Come along to the meeting on Thursday to sign up for the coach up there and to hear and discuss why the BNP and EDL should be resisted everywhere they proliferate."



Racist hooligans? Answers on a postcard please...

What can't people who oppose the edl get?
The longer the groups opposing them like the UAF.
The more multi cultural and muslim this country becomes.
There getting bigger and bigger the pro Muslim groups.
You wait for more years, people will get fed up of everything Muslim in the 'British country of ours'.
Here's another thing for you 'pro foreigners'.

http://www.kfc.co.uk/about-kfc/halal/

There will be no change to the great taste of our products. 'Halal' is an Arabic word which simply means 'permitted' or 'allowed'. For our chicken to be halal accredited, a verse is recited from the Koran by an appropriate person at the point of slaughter - nothing else changes. However, because pork products are not halal, bacon will not be served in our halal trial stores.

As you can see, Muslims are having a bigger say the the brittish people in a brittish country.
It won't end, they will get bigger and bigger.
Here's another headline for you 'pro foreigners'

Islamic radicals 'infiltrate' the Labour Party


A Labour minister says his party has been infiltrated by a fundamentalist Muslim group that wants to create an “Islamic social and political order” in Britain.

The Islamic Forum of Europe (IFE) — which believes in jihad and sharia law, and wants to turn Britain and Europe into an Islamic state — has placed sympathisers in elected office and claims, correctly, to be able to achieve “mass mobilisation” of voters.

Speaking to The Sunday Telegraph, Jim Fitzpatrick, the Environment Minister, said the IFE had become, in effect, a secret party within Labour and other political parties.
“They are acting almost as an entryist organisation, placing people within the political parties, recruiting members to those political parties, trying to get individuals selected and elected so they can exercise political influence and power, whether it’s at local government level or national level,” he said.

“They are completely at odds with Labour’s programme, with our support for secularism.”

Mr Fitzpatrick, the MP for Poplar and Canning Town, said the IFE had infiltrated and “corrupted” his party in east London in the same way that the far-Left Militant Tendency did in the 1980s. Leaked Labour lists show a 110 per cent rise in party membership in one constituency in two years.

http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/labour/7333420/Islamic-radicals-infiltrate-the-Labour-Party.html

And btw.
The U'A'F group is a Muslim group with Muslim principles.
People better start getting there heads out of there little caves in this country.
Myself included and fight these Muslims tooth and nail.
Do you all think the second we get a Muslim m.p in this country that the whites of minority non Muslims will get a fair crack at the whip?
Watch this clip.
http://www.locknload.foxnwolf.com/blog/_archives/2010/2/2/4445093.html

The United Against fascism is a Muslim group.
Simple as that.
The edl is an English group.

[alex_kidd]

The EDL are racist thugs. It doesn't take anyone with half a brain to figure that one out. Maybe i'm asking too much?

[alex_kidd]

Oh and by the way Ginge, if you're so proud of your "brittish" country, then maybe you ought to learn how to spell british properly. Just saying.

[ginge51]

Oh and by the way Ginge, if you're so proud of your "brittish" country, then maybe you ought to learn how to spell british properly. Just saying.

Oh god.
The internet police are here.
You understood it.
Stop being a stuck up ass.
Oh forgot, you are one.
If the edl are racist thugs?
Surly the uaf are racist thugs?
What makes them different?
Explain yourself?
And Alex the gimp, sorry kid.
Are you a Muslim by any chance or white?
Just wanted to know?

[gremlin]

The EDL are racist thugs. It doesn't take anyone with half a brain to figure that one out. Maybe i'm asking too much?

Check out the UAF at the 5TH march 48 arrested for violence EDL 0

So what was your point?:confused:

[theoutlawjournalist]

Maybe i'm asking too much?


No, you're just asking the wrong questions.

[gremlin]

Oh and by the way Ginge, if you're so proud of your "brittish" country, then maybe you ought to learn how to spell british properly. Just saying.

Attacking spelling on the internet is weak. just saying:D

[alex_kidd]

Oh god.
The internet police are here.
You understood it.
Stop being a stuck up ass.
Oh forgot, you are one.
If the edl are racist thugs?
Surly the uaf are racist thugs?
What makes them different?
Explain yourself?
And Alex the gimp, sorry kid.
Are you a Muslim by any chance or white?
Just wanted to know?

Interesting you resort to personal attacks so quickly. A clear indication of lower intelligence. Fear not, i'll try to use small words so you can understand.

"If the edl are racist thugs?
Surly the uaf are racist thugs?"

Er, no. Sorry Ginge. The UAF promote diversity. Something the EDL know nothing about, they actually campaign against diversity creating as much racial tension as they can. The EDL being the morons that they are though just believe hype. Unfounded hype. Interesting you ask if i'm white though? Considering the EDL and supporters are supposed to be non racist. Care to elaborate? Also why do you care if i may be a Muslim or not?

[theoutlawjournalist]

I'm surprised that no one has noticed the star comment in that email. No longer are we referring to this country as 'multi-cultural', it's now 'multi-racial', something I've been saying for years. And yet, it seems appropriate to 'defend' this type of society, presumably in the same way we defended ourselves against a National Socialist ideology which would have seen Islam burned all the way back to the place it came from.

[alex_kidd]

Attacking spelling on the internet is weak. just saying:D

Not really Gremlin when you look at the context of the thread....

[theoutlawjournalist]

they actually campaign against diversity creating as much racial tension as they can


Diversity is the cause of racial tension. The fantasists in the Far Left are obsessed with the idea of vastly different cultures living together in perfect harmony, but human nature says differently. I question your agenda Mr Kidd.

[alex_kidd]

Diversity is the cause of racial tension. The fantasists in the Far Left are obsessed with the idea of vastly different cultures living together in perfect harmony, but human nature says differently. I question your agenda Mr Kidd.

How does diversity create racial tension? By creating racial tension, say for example, like the BNP and EDL do with their racial slurs and violence i'd say that itself was far more harmful to our society wouldn't you? People can live in harmony, people just need to stop being so afraid of each other. I'm sure there's nobody on this thread who would turn down a Muslim doctor if they needed emergency surgery or a loved one of theirs did? Or would they? Anyone?

[ginge51]

Interesting you resort to personal attacks so quickly. A clear indication of lower intelligence. Fear not, i'll try to use small words so you can understand.

"If the edl are racist thugs?
Surly the uaf are racist thugs?"

Er, no. Sorry Ginge. The UAF promote diversity. Something the EDL know nothing about, they actually campaign against diversity creating as much racial tension as they can. The EDL being the morons that they are though just believe hype. Unfounded hype. Interesting you ask if i'm white though? Considering the EDL and supporters are supposed to be non racist. Care to elaborate? Also why do you care if i may be a Muslim or not?
EEEERRRR ok brainwave...
If you are Muslim, obviously you would take the Muslim view no?
So are you Muslim or not?
I'm white.
Just thought i would say mr internet policeman.
And the uaf are thugs just like you call the edl thugs.
They both have there own aims.
The edl is to defend English beliefs.
The uaf to defend Muslim and foreigne interests in Britain.
Do you not get this?
There both thugs.
Would you accept that comment?

[ginge51]

I'm surprised that no one has noticed the star comment in that email. No longer are we referring to this country as 'multi-cultural', it's now 'multi-racial', something I've been saying for years. And yet, it seems appropriate to 'defend' this type of society, presumably in the same way we defended ourselves against a National Socialist ideology which would have seen Islam burned all the way back to the place it came from.

Now that would be good.

[alex_kidd]

EEEERRRR ok brainwave...
If you are Muslim, obviously you would take the Muslim view no?
So are you Muslim or not?
I'm white.
Just thought i would say mr internet policeman.
And the uaf are thugs just like you call the edl thugs.
They both have there own aims.
The edl is to defend English beliefs.
The uaf to defend Muslim and foreigne interests in Britain.
Do you not get this?
There both thugs.
Would you accept that comment?

In short, no. To understand the EDL you need to understand how they're made up and from that you'll begin to understand their intentions. The founding members are BNP activists, Chris Renton is one (He also designed the EDL website for them). Out of the kindness of his heart? No. He has an agenda. Another is Jeff Marsh. He's nothing but a football hooligan. Most of the EDL are. Have you ever been to an EDL rally? I have and all their supporters were football hooligans and well known BNP members. If their cause really was as innocent as you say then why aren't families on these rallies?

See, it doesn't add up. Neither do the frequent Nazi salutes they like to film themselves doing, or their regular "Fuck off P*ki" chants. When you're trying to sell yourself as a non racist organization, that's kind of like pissing into the wind wouldn't you say?

For the record also i'm not a Muslim. But again i still would like an answer as to why you asked if i was white, and also your reason for doing so. Thanks.

[griffinman]

This little gem was mailed out to all students at my University today...
"The racist hooligans of the English Defence League (EDL) have rescheduled their plans to descend on Bolton for Saturday 20 March. Unite Against Fascism has called a national counter demonstration for all those who want to defend our multiracial society against the EDL's thuggery and violence.

North West UAF has launched a Bolton Unity Statement condemning the EDL and calling on people to support and attend the demonstration against the racists in Bolton on 20 March. Signatories include MPs, trade unionists and campaigners such as Bolton MP Ruth Kelly and Manchester MPs John Leech, Tony Lloyd and Gerald Kaufman.

The EDL had threatened to come to Bolton on 6 March this year. An EDL spokesperson interviewed in the Lancashire Telegraph refused to rule out violence and confirmed that the openly Nazi thugs from Combat 18 were regulars on EDL demos. But this demo was cancelled when the EDL realised its thugs would go on the rampage against a Hindu festival in Bolton planned that day.
Unite Against Fascism believes the EDL should not be allowed to terrorise ethnic minorities in Bolton or anywhere else. Join our demonstration to show these racists and fascists that they are not welcome in the town. Meet 11am on Saturday 20 March at Victoria Square in Bolton.
Come along to the meeting on Thursday to sign up for the coach up there and to hear and discuss why the BNP and EDL should be resisted everywhere they proliferate."

:D Quite amusing, standard-issue hysterical propaganda..
almost like something written in the style of the Dailymail.

"Omg white people are protesting in England, in support of english culture,
and they have English in their name.. destroy them! they're racists®!
or should that be wacists®."

[bendoon]

The EDL are racist thugs.

I would say that its the UAF and assorted hangers on who are the racist thugs.

The EDL just want to be left alone in peace in their own country, the UAF want to exterminate the British and replace them with Muslims and Africans.

who would turn down a Muslim doctor if they needed emergency surgery

If we hadn't bankrupted the country by feeding and housing people from everywhere on the planet we would be able to afford to train our own doctors.

[griffinman]

Diversity is the cause of racial tension. The fantasists in the Far Left are obsessed with the idea of vastly different cultures living together in perfect harmony, but human nature says differently. I question your agenda Mr Kidd.

Yep, the UAF are the establishment. (singing from the same song book)

Its chair is the former Labour Party mayor of London, Ken Livingstone.
The organisation has signatories and members from other mainstream political parties, including Conservative leader David Cameron.

[mynameis]

Yep, the UAF are the establishment. (singing from the same song book)

Its chair is the former Labour Party mayor of London, Ken Livingstone.
The organisation has signatories and members from other mainstream political parties, including Conservative leader David Cameron.

UAF should support Fascism and Racism at every turn. Don't let their principles blind you. Everyone who is not English should bow down to race politics, its the new civil rights.............um :eek:

[bendoon]

UAF should support Fascism :

They do, thats what Fascists do, go round intimidating and beating up their political opponents.

[mynameis]

They do, thats what Fascists do, go round intimidating and beating up their political opponents.

So which dictator put the UAF up to the stunt?


fas·cism

1.
(sometimes initial capital letter) a governmental system led by a dictator having complete power, forcibly suppressing opposition and criticism, regimenting all industry, commerce, etc., and emphasizing an aggressive nationalism and often racism.
2.
(sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.
3.
(initial capital letter) a fascist movement, esp. the one established by Mussolini in Italy 1922–43.


http://dictionary.reference.com/browse/fascism

[griffinman]

UAF should support Fascism and Racism at every turn.

Bit of consistency would be nice.

Like to see the UAF protesting against islamification of certain areas.
Like to see the UAF take on London's racist immigrant gangs...

[alex_kidd]

I would say that its the UAF and assorted hangers on who are the racist thugs.

The EDL just want to be left alone in peace in their own country, the UAF want to exterminate the British and replace them with Muslims and Africans.



If we hadn't bankrupted the country by feeding and housing people from everywhere on the planet we would be able to afford to train our own doctors.

The EDL want to be left in peace? Why don't they lead by example then? You say Muslims yet the EDL claim they're against only Muslim extremism, which is it? Also,you are aware that a lot of Muslims were born here right? Or do you think they sneak in at night whilst you're asleep? Get real,haha.




We didn't bankrupt this country by feeding and housing people from other countries, but that's another thread altogether....

[mynameis]

Bit of consistency would be nice.

Like to see the UAF protesting against islamification of certain areas.
Like to see the UAF take on London's racist immigrant gangs...

It would be nice if people pick up a dictionary now and then as a refresher. Hence, see the definition above.

[griffinman]

It would be nice if people pick up a dictionary now and then as a refresher. Hence, see the definition above.

oh god, the boring dictionary game.
I don't think anyone here is actually suggesting Benito Mussolini is a member of the UAF.

2.
(sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.

what are they exactly? suppression of free speech I think would be one of them.

[bendoon]

The EDL want to be left in peace? Why don't they lead by example then?

What do you mean they should just keep quiet whilst they are disposessed of their country ?

That would be convenient wouldn't it, for the Government and the anti white racists of course.

[mynameis]

oh god, the boring dictionary game.
I don't think anyone here is actually suggesting Benito Mussolini is a member of the UAF.

2.
(sometimes initial capital letter) the philosophy, principles, or methods of fascism.

what are they exactly? suppression of free speech I think would be one of them.

So what you are saying by what I know already is that this joker fled with his tail between his legs instead of calling the fuzz.

[griffinman]

So what you are saying by what I know already is that this joker fled with his tail between his legs instead of calling the fuzz.

yep that's exactly what I'm saying.

.....does anyone know what she means?

[mynameis]

yep that's exactly what I'm saying.

.....does anyone know what she means?

Sure. But this demo was cancelled when the EDL realised its thugs would go on the rampage against a Hindu festival in Bolton planned that day.

So is that true?

[alex_kidd]

What do you mean they should just keep quiet whilst they are disposessed of their country ?

That would be convenient wouldn't it, for the Government and the anti white racists of course.

Dispossessed of their country? Well which country are you talking about here? Which is YOUR country exactly? Many Muslims are born here. How can you not understand something so simple. They in fact sided with us during world war 2. What is it about Islam and Muslims that frightens you so much? Please don't give the extremism rant because i think we established long ago that wasn't accurate. So if it isn't extremism what is it exactly that Muslims are doing to you that makes you so fearful for YOUR country?

[griffinman]

Sure.

So is that true?

Don't know, imo looks like an excuse made up by the local council.

The Bolton News can reveal that the EDL has set a new date for the controversial rally after the last planned protest in the town was postponed be-cause it clashed with a Hindu festival.

The council wants the new event banned on grounds of public safety. The original protest was due to take place on March 6, but the EDL received information that far-left groups were planning to hijack the rally.

and that's from the 'Hope not Hate' forum.
http://www.hopenothate.org.uk/news/article/1531/Bolton%27s-call-for-ban-on-English-Defence-League-protest

[mynameis]

Don't know, imo looks like an excuse made up by the local council.

The Bolton News can reveal that the EDL has set a new date for the controversial rally after the last planned protest in the town was postponed be-cause it clashed with a Hindu festival.

So the citation by the council about the clash of Combat 18 may not be entirely false.

Edit: As a University e-mail, it might be exaggerated.

[bendoon]

Dispossessed of their country? Well which country are you talking about here?

Britain, the country that belongs to the British people, they were never consulted as to wether they wanted to share it with people from all over the world and to be forced out of areas where their families have lived for generations. When people are forced into doing things against there wishes they eventually rebel, thats just a fact of human nature as demonstrated throughout history. There is nothing whatsoever that you, I or the UAF can say or do to stop what will happen in the coming years in Britain and indeed the rest of Europe.

[selig]

They in fact sided with us during world war 2.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=HfLvP2jTVq8&feature=related

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=EAxrg7nMcs4

[alex_kidd]

Britain, the country that belongs to the British people, they were never consulted as to wether they wanted to share it with people from all over the world and to be forced out of areas where their families have lived for generations. When people are forced into doing things against there wishes they eventually rebel, thats just a fact of human nature as demonstrated throughout history.

Britain isn't a country....
You astound me you really do, your levels of ignorance are truly shocking. Who are these indigenous brits? What do they look like? How can you spot an indigenous brit? Where were you forced out from?

[bendoon]

Britain isn't a country....
You astound me you really do, your levels of ignorance are truly shocking. Who are these indigenous brits? What do they look like? How can you spot an indigenous brit? Where were you forced out from?

After WW2 London was 98% white British, its now less than 50%, where did they all go ? They were forced out by wave after wave after wave of immigrants brought in by the Government. A deliberate policy of ethnic cleansing, there is no other word to describe it. The same thing has happened all over the country, Luton, Liecester, Bradford, Birmingham, widescale ethnic cleansing. They don't intend to stop till there are no British people left, but something will give sooner or later and people will say enough is enough and things won't be pretty when it gets to that point.

[alex_kidd]

After WW2 London was 98% white British, its now less than 50%, where did they all go ? They were forced out by wave after wave after wave of immigrants brought in by the Government. A deliberate policy of ethnic cleansing, there is no other word to describe it. The same thing has happened all over the country, Luton, Liecester, Bradford, Birmingham, widescale ethnic cleansing. They don't intend to stop till there are no British people left, but something will give sooner or later and people will say enough is enough and things won't be pretty when it gets to that point.

Where are your sources for those statistics please?

And, oh yeah the copy and paste too? ....

[griffinman]

So the citation by the council about the clash of Combat 18 may not be entirely false.


No it might not be... but sounds like propaganda I mean, combat 18? how would anyone know? lol...
The EDL and BNP, are opposed to each other.. check out the boards..
The connecting between the two imo is just lazy.
And the neo-nazis hate both Nick Griffin and the BNP for being sell-outs and the EDL for being 'plastic nationalists'
But who cares?
Personally I just think people are frustrated and angry with multiculturalism because they have to suffer and live in those areas.
It's ain't nice and it ain't rosy. They have every right to protest.

Anyway The UAF could only muster about 100-150 supporters for their London demo.(Their stronghold)
I think many students are walking up; They're starting to see what's going on, what's going on campus.

[mynameis]

I mean, combat 18? how would anyone know? lol....

I'm going to go out on a limb here and say Echelon and MI6.

And the neo-nazis hate both Nick Griffin and the BNP for being sell-outs and the EDL for being 'plastic nationalists'
But who cares?

So you are giving a motivation for the reprisal the e-mail details against the EDL & BNP?

[mynameis]

After WW2 London was 98% white British, its now less than 50%, where did they all go ? They were forced out by wave after wave after wave of immigrants brought in by the Government. A deliberate policy of ethnic cleansing, there is no other word to describe it. The same thing has happened all over the country, Luton, Liecester, Bradford, Birmingham, widescale ethnic cleansing. They don't intend to stop till there are no British people left, but something will give sooner or later and people will say enough is enough and things won't be pretty when it gets to that point.

Did you do a subtraction comparison between years? Subtract between number between the projected numbers of births and the population, minus the influx due to immigration.

[bendoon]

Where are your sources for those statistics please?

And, oh yeah the copy and paste too? ....

Immigration to Britain wasn't allowed until 1948, when the right to come here was given to the Commonwealth.

The act effectively allowed any one of the 800 million subjects of the King in the British Empire to live and work in the UK, without needing a visa. One of the reasons why the act was implemented was that many of the MPs of the day thought that few citizens of the Empire would want to reside in the UK. Indeed, the act was passed with little debate,

British Nationality Act 1948 - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia

[alex_kidd]

Immigration to Britain wasn't allowed until 1948, when the right to come here was given to the Commonwealth.



http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/British_Nationality_Act_1948

Wiki? Really? Did you just write that yourself?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/nov/05/muslim-soldiers-first-world-war

[nosebleed]

The EDL are racist thugs. It doesn't take anyone with half a brain to figure that one out. Maybe i'm asking too much?

Ok lets examine your comment a little bit closer...

In your honest opinion how can any normal group of white English people protest at mass immigration without being labeled ? , with some some sort of racist tag and being called bad people ? , i would love to see you try define it.

Or do you not see the indigenous white English as the native people of England ?

If so can you please explain to me why the Chinese people own China , or why the Japanese own Japan , or me being white British and native why can i not say the same thing ?

I have no hate for other groups or races of people , i just prefer my own kind , the same way as they do in the above countries i mentioned ,

So why is it ok for them to be who they are and be proud of themselves , yet we white British have to feel guilty all the time , and be ashamed of our heritage and be called racist if we even whisper a word at anyone ?

The truth is us in the West our heads are so filled with racist , propaganda it is laughable , we are obsessing over trivial nonsense , that has somehow been made to seem important , when at the end of the day we are all human.

[bendoon]

Wiki? Really? Did you just write that yourself?
http://www.guardian.co.uk/commentisfree/belief/2009/nov/05/muslim-soldiers-first-world-war

And what exactly does that have to do with immigration.

By the way the guy who wrote that stabbed an intruder at his home and got off scott free because he is working for the establishment. If a normal English person did that they would have done time.

[zephiloyd]

Dispossessed of their country? Well which country are you talking about here? Which is YOUR country exactly? Many Muslims are born here. How can you not understand something so simple. They in fact sided with us during world war 2. What is it about Islam and Muslims that frightens you so much? Please don't give the extremism rant because i think we established long ago that wasn't accurate. So if it isn't extremism what is it exactly that Muslims are doing to you that makes you so fearful for YOUR country?

These are very typical liberal views, it seems as though you haven't done much research beyond the bent mainstream.

Immigrants are not the enemy, they, like the indigneous British, are victims of a sick experiment by the government. Multiculturalism was highlighted a hundred years ago by the elite as a way to destroy out culture, and cause conflict. It is simply another in a long line of methods devised to divide people into opposing camps so that we would fight each other.

Islam and Christianity result in very different cultures, and multiculturalism by definition has to dilute aspects of each culture in order to accept the other. Religious people have the right to practice their own religion and if they feel that their religious practice is being diluted because of a false notion of multiculturalism, if the true elite game plan is not understood (which is true in most cases) then they could then see the surrounding religions/cultures as the main threat to this right. This is exacerbated further in areas of poverty. The real enemy is not people within different religions or cultures in Britain, but the government that permitted this mass immigration in the first place, and continues to do so today. Had the governments not done this on mass we would be living in a much safer place, with much greater community cohesion, but in order for the elite to maintain control over society they have to give us lots of stupid problems to worry about.

[nosebleed]

These are very typical liberal views, it seems as though you haven't done much research beyond the bent mainstream.

Immigrants are not the enemy, they, like the indigneous British, are victims of a sick experiment by the government. Multiculturalism was highlighted a hundred years ago by the elite as a way to destroy out culture, and cause conflict. It is simply another in a long line of methods devised to divide people into opposing camps so that we would fight each other.

Islam and Christianity result in very different cultures, and multiculturalism by definition has to dilute aspects of each culture in order to accept the other. Religious people have the right to practice their own religion and if they feel that their religious practice is being diluted because of a false notion of multiculturalism, if the true elite game plan is not understood (which is true in most cases) they may then see the opposing religion/culture as the problem. This is exacerbated further in areas of poverty. The real enemy is not people within different religions or cultures in Britain, but the government that permitted this mass immigration in the first place, and continues to do so today. Had the governments not done this on mass we would be living in a much safer place, with much greater community cohesion, but in order for the elite to maintain control over society they have to give us lots of stupid problems to worry about.

I believe this 10 minute documentary explains your point , pretty clearly

http://video.google.co.uk/videoplay?docid=8037363480810425705&ei=4zygS8TELJTt-Qbs4omjDQ&q=battle+for+the+republic&hl=en&view=3&client=firefox-a#

The same program is being rolled out in Europe , it is the western way of life that is under attack , it is not about helping anyone but themselves.

[gremlin]

This is what the UAF are protecting

http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Islamic-sexual-perversion.htm

Dare you to have a read. So you wanna see a country go down to that level of understanding.

[eternal_spirit]

Originally Posted by eternal_spirit http://www.davidicke.com/forum/images/buttons_green/viewpost.gif (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058698929#post1058698929)
Black lads on this video here EDL burning NAZI flag on you tube.....


English Defence League response to the lies of the UAF and some elements of the press.


http://img.youtube.com/vi/wkKmzNpUBM4/default.jpg
English Defence League response to the lies of the UAF and some elements of (http://www.youtube.com/v/wkKmzNpUBM4) Close (http://www.davidicke.com/forum/showthread.php?p=1058705072&highlight=mixed#)




Some people need to wake up and stop listening to the unbelievable lies spouted by the UAF and some Islamic MP's. How can anyone call this group far right facist Nazi's is beyond belief. Since when were Nazi groups multi race?!?


So you may as well stop pushing your hatred for whites.
Statement from EDL below
Anyone wanting to know the true reason for the English Defence League taking to the streets, we are in Birmingham again on the 5th September. We have consent from Birmingham Police for the Protest, we have mixed race members, and we only demonstrate against Political and Militant Islam. Not “All Muslims” as the left wing press would have you believe.
Our promo video is on the home page of our site, just google “English Defence League”.



Note: this 5th september was last year obviously.

[eternal_spirit]

I think some student should; send emails back and circulate the truth about EDL my last post above (their own words) along with the video of black and white EDL men burning a Nazi flag.

[gremlin]

Since when were Nazi groups multi race?!?

:D Can't wait to see a UAF response. :confused::confused::confused::confused::confused: :confused:
Ok, this will confuse the UAF even more, Their are GAYS who support the EDL to
mmmuhhhhaaaaahahhahha

HOW EVIL THE EDL ARE, WHAT NAZI'S AND HOMOPHOB'S THE EDL.....:confused:AREN'T:confused:

Get in the real world and join the movement before you have kids and mohammed is allowed to marry it even when the child is still breastfeeding.

[shepherdess]

Check out the UAF at the 5TH march 48 arrested for violence EDL 0

So what was your point?:confused:

There is a reason for that, silly creature!

301 Moved Permanently

They arrested the UAF members who were not "mostly muslim" as you can see, in order to prevent a breach of the peace (pre-crime).

This is despite the fact, and its is a fact as you can see in part two, that only the EDL were behaving violently with full police support!

The UAF members who were sat on the floor were being dragged and carried away to a "holding pen" and then put onto buses despite the Fact, and it is a fact because you can witness it for yourself in the video, they had done NOTHING AT ALL to provoke anyone!

301 Moved Permanently (part 2)

The police again, took action on the weakest/easy targets. The last thing they want is for the EDL to be irked at them, as then they would have a real problem! The EDL would most certainly give them trouble and they would have to work hard to get their £80 BOTP fines from the EDL!

[gremlin]

There is a reason for that, silly creature!

http://www.vimeo.com/10191879

They arrested the UAF members who were not "mostly muslim" as you can see, in order to prevent a breach of the peace (pre-crime).

This is despite the fact, and its is a fact as you can see in part two, that only the EDL were behaving violently with full police support!

The UAF members who were sat on the floor were being dragged and carried away to a "holding pen" and then put onto buses despite the Fact, and it is a fact because you can witness it for yourself in the video, they had done NOTHING AT ALL to provoke anyone!

http://www.vimeo.com/10193049 (part 2)

The police again, took action on the weakest/easy targets. The last thing they want is for the EDL to be irked at them, as then they would have a real problem! The EDL would most certainly give them trouble and they would have to work hard to get their £80 BOTP fines from the EDL!

How naive do you have to be????:confused: I sent a message to charlie asking why he supported the uaf and communism, he said "I don't support communism and i found the UAF very disagreeable bunch"

[gremlin]

They arrested the UAF members who were not "mostly muslim" as you can see, in order to prevent a breach of the peace (pre-crime).

The EDL had permission to protest so the nazi's wanted to prevent the EDL from protesting.

This is despite the fact, and its is a fact as you can see in part two, that only the EDL were behaving violently with full police support!


I can't see how they were acting violent:confused: they were shouting i agree their, but no fist's. no kicking, and If you take the green man he was shouting back too, so to be fair shouting on both sides.

The UAF members who were sat on the floor were being dragged and carried away to a "holding pen" and then put onto buses despite the Fact, and it is a fact because you can witness it for yourself in the video, they had done NOTHING AT ALL to provoke anyone!

Maybe a bit extreme but when you consider the EDL HAD A RIGHT TO PROTEST the nazi UAF weren't going to let them so what would you do in that situation?


The police again, took action on the weakest/easy targets. The last thing they want is for the EDL to be irked at them, as then they would have a real problem! The EDL would most certainly give them trouble and they would have to work hard to get their £80 BOTP fines from the EDL!

The EDL had stewards who made sure they kept people in line, the ole dutch courage kicking in. The EDL are about peaceful protests it's a new organisation they have teething problems, Wouldn't you kick off to If you weren't allowed free speech???????????
I'm sure the EDL if arrested would of paid thier fines as most of them do work for a living.

they had done NOTHING AT ALL to provoke anyone!
They turn up to provoke that's what they do, can't they organize a protest of their own objecting to the EDL/BNP???? no they love the violence and the clashes they know the media will side with them. It's an utter disgrace!!!

[eternal_spirit]

UAF are known to turn up and cause trouble. Like they did in Liverpool when they attacked BNP members with claw hammers (google the pic of the man who had his head smashed)
http://newsimg.bbc.co.uk/media/images/45566000/jpg/_45566905_bnp.jpg

They also had axes and baseball bats.

These UAF are so fascist that they turn up at legal legitimate BNP meetings to cause trouble and chant bullshit and lies.

[zephiloyd]

This is what the UAF are protecting

http://www.islam-watch.org/Others/Islamic-sexual-perversion.htm

Dare you to have a read. So you wanna see a country go down to that level of understanding.

the inclusion of an image from 9/11 next to the title of islam watch is a turn off, it wasn't them! :mad:

[gremlin]

Why can't the UAF just protest on their own at parliment, no because they love the violence and, "look at me" waste of space the lot of them, their the friggin nazi's and most of the UAF are teachers and are NUT jobs which for me is really worrying as they support child molesters. get your kids out of schools now because they could be UAF, protectors of child molestors as this video footage kinda proves.

The Shocking Truth About Public Schools - YouTube

[gremlin]

the inclusion of an image from 9/11 next to the title of islam watch is a turn off, it wasn't them! :mad:

The UAF are protecting it, believe it or not.

[bendoon]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13fgkzWGpG8

Weyman Bennet "Nazis, racists, holocaust deniers, naz............... ad infinitum)"

Sort of frothing at the mouth.

[gremlin]

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=13fgkzWGpG8

Weyman Bennet "Nazis, racists, holocaust deniers, naz............... ad infinitum)"

Sort of frothing at the mouth.

thanks for the video, he dribbles rabbies.:D

[oioioi]

Here's another thing for you 'pro foreigners'.



I thought it was about religion, not nationality?

Ooops!


If the edl are racist thugs?
Surly the uaf are racist thugs?
What makes them different?
Explain yourself?

So you are saying they are the same, yet you support one and oppose the other.....mhmm.


Diversity is the cause of racial tension. The fantasists in the Far Left are obsessed with the idea of vastly different cultures living together in perfect harmony, but human nature says differently. I question your agenda Mr Kidd.

Ah the old 'human nature' chestnut. Could you please post a comprehensive list of what behaviours are natural to all humans, TIA.

I would say that its the UAF and assorted hangers on who are the racist thugs.

The EDL just want to be left alone in peace in their own country, the UAF want to exterminate the British and replace them with Muslims and Africans.


Then why do they insist on going around the country if they just 'want to be left alone'?

After WW2 London was 98% white British, its now less than 50%, where did they all go ? They were forced out by wave after wave after wave of immigrants brought in by the Government. A deliberate policy of ethnic cleansing, there is no other word to describe it. The same thing has happened all over the country, Luton, Liecester, Bradford, Birmingham, widescale ethnic cleansing. They don't intend to stop till there are no British people left, but something will give sooner or later and people will say enough is enough and things won't be pretty when it gets to that point.

So is this about religion or immigration?



I have no hate for other groups or races of people , i just prefer my own kind , the same way as they do in the above countries i mentioned ,

Your own kind? Is that Christians then? Or did you mean race?

The truth is us in the West our heads are so filled with racist , propaganda it is laughable , we are obsessing over trivial nonsense , that has somehow been made to seem important , when at the end of the day we are all human.

You are very confused!!!

These are very typical liberal views, it seems as though you haven't done much research beyond the bent mainstream.

Immigrants are not the enemy, they, like the indigneous British, are victims of a sick experiment by the government. Multiculturalism was highlighted a hundred years ago by the elite as a way to destroy out culture, and cause conflict. It is simply another in a long line of methods devised to divide people into opposing camps so that we would fight each other.

Islam and Christianity result in very different cultures, and multiculturalism by definition has to dilute aspects of each culture in order to accept the other. Religious people have the right to practice their own religion and if they feel that their religious practice is being diluted because of a false notion of multiculturalism, if the true elite game plan is not understood (which is true in most cases) then they could then see the surrounding religions/cultures as the main threat to this right. This is exacerbated further in areas of poverty. The real enemy is not people within different religions or cultures in Britain, but the government that permitted this mass immigration in the first place, and continues to do so today. Had the governments not done this on mass we would be living in a much safer place, with much greater community cohesion, but in order for the elite to maintain control over society they have to give us lots of stupid problems to worry about.

So you are anti-government.

The EDL are about peaceful protests it's a new organisation they have teething problems, Wouldn't you kick off to If you weren't allowed free speech???????????
I'm sure the EDL if arrested would of paid thier fines as most of them do work for a living.


They turn up to provoke that's what they do, can't they organize a protest of their own objecting to the EDL/BNP???? no they love the violence and the clashes they know the media will side with them. It's an utter disgrace!!!

Then please explain why the EDL have their tastier lads holed up in side street pubs and hotels while the main 'rally' is taking place if they are just there to protest peacefully.

Why can't the UAF just protest on their own at parliment,

Conversely, why can't the EDL just protest at their own parliament?

[gremlin]

Then please explain why the EDL have their tastier lads holed up in side street pubs and hotels while the main 'rally' is taking place if they are just there to protest peacefully.


Where did you hear this from?

Sounds like rolloxs to me.


Conversely, why can't the EDL just protest at their own parliament?

geert wilders was in town and the response from the UAF was to kill him, EDL thought he needed back up.

[eternal_spirit]

The UAF should be classed as a terrorist organisation and supporters like David Cameron and Sir Teddy Taylor denounced as supporters of terrorism.
http://eotp.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/2009-new-labour-david-miliband-m-p-parsite/

The UAF modus operandi is to frighten and intimidate people from certain political parties and with certain views which are caricatured in a nightmare scenario of old-fashioned Nazi imagery and imaginary violence.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

Why didn’t the interviewer ask him to prove “his thugs go out at night and attack people”? Because thy only ask the BNP questions like that. The media is partial and biased.
The UAF is not classified as a terrorist organisation because it is used by the elites to intimidate its rivals.

The Battle of Birmingham of 8th August 2009 has shown people how the elites manipulate the publics perceptions because it became clear that innocent “white” people were physically attacked by Blacks and Muslims because they were white yet the Establishment media tried to say the threat is “far-right” thugs when it was their pet Muslims and Blacks racially attacking “Whites.”

A letter in the Birmingham post from a protester who was appalled at UAF incited violence gives the inside story
http://www.birminghampost.net/comment/le....65233-24365332/ (http://www.birminghampost.net/comment/letters-to-the-editor/2009/08/11/uaf-protester-sorry-rally-got-out-of-hand-in-birmingham-65233-24365332/)

“Dear Editor,

I would like to start by apologising to the people of Birmingham for the events of Saturday evening which I am highly ashamed to have been a part of. However, as a moderate who took part in the UAF protest I would like to set the record straight…
...The young Muslims who rampaged through the city streets were incited to violence by UAF activists. I was near the front of the rally in Rotunda Square and I saw how they worked and I saw how it got out of hand... The UAF should have switched rhetoric when they saw that the young Muslims were getting restless and angry. Instead what they did was get increasingly aggressive speakers to talk about ‘smashing the BNP’ (not directly involved with the protest) whilst sending agitators into the crowd, with megaphones, to whip up anger...”

Some telling stuff in the comments:

Quote:
Why didn't you mention Salma Yaqoob's aggressive speech in your post above? Saying things like: 'Our streets! Our streets! Our streets!' and 'Get the BNP off our streets' could hardly have helped the situation. Not when she was raising her fist and shouting aggressively.
Councillor Yaqoob should be prosecuted for inciting violence. The police ignored it
http://www.socialistunity.com/?p=4512

Quote:
So this is the truth of why i was nearly beaten up last Saturday whilst shopping with my wife. I was confronted by a dozen or so asian youths who accused me of being BNP, and started to bear down on me, luckily my wife came around the corner and they dispersed.
We were so disturbed I told one officer about the confrontation and was told "don't be a part of the problem"! While walking back to the car we saw a young white youth apparently unconscious on the floor, police by his side, with a group of youths holding UAF banners sniggering and pointing at the young lads predicament.

Quote:
It is also worth mentioning that the Muslims youths were recorded as saying, “Get whitey this is our town”. (1)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopi....te-racists.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/lawandorder/6000029/Strategy-to-tackle-extremists-to-focus-on-white-racists.html)

The UAF incited violence against the police by telling the Muslim and Black demonstrators the BNP had set fire to a mosque, even though the BNP were not there.

Not that they need much inciting for in 1999 it was reported that around 2,000 British Muslims were being trained in British terror camps, mainly in London and Birmingham. The trainees were taught hand-to-hand combat, survival skills for guerilla warfare and advised to get military training in war zones like the Yemen and Afghanistan which they do because Birmingham accents have been heard by RAF Nimrod. Eight young Muslim terrorists from Birmingham, London and Luton on active service were arrested in Aden in December 1998, planning terror attacks against British targets.
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-....re-accents.html (http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-513598/RAF-surveillance-planes-hear-Taliban-fighters-talking-Brummie-Yorkshire-accents.html)
http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopi....t-enclaves.html (http://www.telegraph.co.uk/news/newstopics/politics/defence/3406107/Report-identifies-UK-terrorist-enclaves.html)
http://eotp.wordpress.com/2009/05/17/2009-new-labour-david-miliband-m-p-parsite/

In the Battle of Birmingham anyone white was attacked including a Polish man pushing a pram. Those who speak out against of Islamic Extremism, has reasonable cause to fear for their life. What is worse the media label them “far-right” to equalise them with Muslim extremists (2) and they sanitise these street thugs by describing them as “Anti-fascist” protesters.

[oioioi]

Where did you hear this from?

My eyes.

[gremlin]

My eyes.


And if your on this forum you know they are not to be trusted:D

Can you give me a meaning to tastier lads please!

[eternal_spirit]

Where did you hear this from?

Sounds like rolloxs to me.




geert wilders was in town and the response from the UAF was to kill him, EDL thought he needed back up.
UAF and Muslim Council of Brtian are up each others ass.

This is like the terror threat to prevent Geert Wilders speaking at the House of Lords when Muslim peer Lord Ahmed threatened to have 10, 000 Muslim protesters outside the Lords.
In the Observer of 30th July 2006, Martin Bright wrote: “... the Muslim Council of Britain, whose leadership has established sympathies for the Jamaat-i-Islami in Pakistan and Bangladesh. Both the Brotherhood and the Jamaat believe in the creation of an Islamic state and the establishment of Sharia law.”

The rise of the MCB under Iqbal Sacranie(later knighted) can be traced to the ‘Satanic Verses’ affair when Muslims burned the book in the streets and the raising of a fatwah for the murder author Salman Rushdie. In 1989 Sacranie said of the novelist “death was perhaps too easy”
http://www.guardian.co.uk/media/2005/aug/14/broadcasting.religion


Of course not 10,000 showed when Wilders eventually came.

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_QfVWU-2pVL4/StpZxZiJRBI/AAAAAAAAJGE/XR5PfL5ZV_w/s1600/Brandishing%2Bbanners%2Bsaying%2B%27Sharia%2Bis%2B the%2Btrue%2Bsolution,%2Bfreedom%2Bgo%2Bto%2Bhell% 27,%2BMuslim%2Bprotesters%2Bmet%2BMr%2BWilders%2Bo utside%2BHouses%2Bof%2BParliament.jpg

http://3.bp.blogspot.com/_QfVWU-2pVL4/StpZxiBYBcI/AAAAAAAAJGM/ZVGTlNoolXI/s1600/When%2BMr%2BWilders%2Bwas%2Bbanned%2Bfrom%2Benteri ng%2BBritain%2Bin%2BFebruary%2Bit%2Bwas%2Bfeared%2 Bthat%2Bhis%2Boutspoken%2Bviews%2Bon%2BIslam%2Bcou ld%2Bspark%2Breligious%2Bviolence.jpg

http://4.bp.blogspot.com/_QfVWU-2pVL4/StpZyHK_HJI/AAAAAAAAJGU/JQEtbHFOhX8/s1600/Muslims%2Bcarrying%2Bbanners%2Bdeclaring%2B%27Isla m%2Bwill%2Bdominate%2Bthe%2Bworld%27%2Bprotest%2Ba t%2Bthe%2Bvisit%2Bof%2BMr%2BWilders%2Bto%2Bthe%2BU K.jpg

[oioioi]

And if your on this forum you know they are not to be trusted:D

Can you give me a meaning to tastier lads please!

Lads known to be 'up for it'.

[gremlin]

Lads known to be 'up for it'.

So what you are saying, lads that were up for it waiting in the pubs around the corner incase their was a riot they would intervene and jump in and riotsome more.

My friend you are deluded.:mad: just trying to put out disinformation to make the EDL look bad. is'bt gonna work.;)

[oioioi]

So what you are saying, lads that were up for it waiting in the pubs around the corner incase their was a riot they would intervene and jump in and riotsome more.

My friend you are deluded.:mad: just trying to put out disinformation to make the EDL look bad. is'bt gonna work.;)

No. I'm saying lads were holed up until the rally had been shepherded to it's pre-arranged point. Then they came out of the pubs looking for small groups of Muslim lads and/or anti-fa who weren't cordoned in. I know what I saw. If you'd like to tell me why I would lie about this, or indeed if you'd just like to call me a liar, then go ahead, it won't change what I saw and heard.

[alex_kidd]

This thread seems to have been busy since last night. To all EDL/BNP supporters, it's like this. Basically, no good can come from any amount of discussion with any of you. You're all too set in your twisted racist ways to see reason so it's not even worth bothering with you. Energy is precious and not to be wasted. You think what you like but at the end of the day when you need a doctor remember to ask for a non Muslim one yeah? The people see through your organizations anyway. I've seen you jeered out of many a city/town, many times. You say also, well someone said last night, that you'd train your own doctors up. How when you think the UAF (students) are all tree huggers. You realise doctors were students once don't you? Probably not. Haha so er, yeah, good luck with training your own doctors up. Just watch Holby City a few times you'll be ok....And with that i say, have a nice life. Don't forget you reap what you sow. I'm not up for coming back to this prison a second time round but then we all make our own choices. Be careful how you treat strangers.

[gremlin]

No. I'm saying lads were holed up until the rally had been shepherded to it's pre-arranged point. Then they came out of the pubs looking for small groups of Muslim lads and/or anti-fa who weren't cordoned in. I know what I saw. If you'd like to tell me why I would lie about this, or indeed if you'd just like to call me a liar, then go ahead, it won't change what I saw and heard.

please, nope didn't happen. I see your game:D

[gremlin]

This thread seems to have been busy since last night. To all EDL/BNP supporters, it's like this. Basically, no good can come from any amount of discussion with any of you. You're all too set in your twisted racist ways to see reason so it's not even worth bothering with you. Energy is precious and not to be wasted. You think what you like but at the end of the day when you need a doctor remember to ask for a non Muslim one yeah? The people see through your organizations anyway. I've seen you jeered out of many a city/town, many times. You say also, well someone said last night, that you'd train your own doctors up. How when you think the UAF (students) are all tree huggers. You realise doctors were students once don't you? Probably not. Haha so er, yeah, good luck with training your own doctors up. Just watch Holby City a few times you'll be ok....And with that i say, have a nice life. Don't forget you reap what you sow. I'm not up for coming back to this prison a second time round but then we all make our own choices. Be careful how you treat strangers.

omg, ramblings of a nerd:D

[oioioi]

please, nope didn't happen. I see your game:D

You see what you want to see.

Would it help you believe it if I said anti-fa(not UAF) were also up to the same game?

[griffinman]

racist ways to see reason so it's not even worth bothering with you. Energy is precious and not to be wasted.

stop there..

[gremlin]

You see what you want to see.

Would it help you believe it if I said anti-fa(not UAF) were also up to the same game?

EDL are not after chasing muslims. this is not the NF/combat18 like you are suggesting. their are muslims in the edl now and gays to so what you are saying is ludicrous these guys simply wouldn't go chasing after muslims.

[theoutlawjournalist]

To all EDL/BNP supporters, it's like this. Basically, no good can come from any amount of discussion with any of you


You've shot yourself in the foot (again)...taking an overview of the thread so far it's clear that there is no outright 'support' for either of these two groups, more a frustration with how the UAF is being used as a tool by the Establishment to drum up disorder and racial intolerance. You asked for a list of human traits earlier but only two are relevant to this discussion, self-preservation and fear of the unknown, two concepts which exist in the very fabric of our consciousness and are the engine for both sides of the religious divide, be they Muslim or otherwise. I've noticed that you talk freely about 'tasty lads', those that are 'up for it' and football hooligans...all references to the kind of Danny Dyer-a-like, Stone Island wearing mugs who may or may not be found hanging around UAF marches looking to kick off with anyone who doesn't look hard enough to have a go back. Maybe you're the type who hides in the middle where it's safe, or just bounces around with your hood up 'so the old bill don't recognise me'...either way, you need slow down, read a few good history books, and stop masturbating over old West Ham v. Millwall vids on YouTube.

[gremlin]

You've shot yourself in the foot (again)...taking an overview of the thread so far it's clear that there is no outright 'support' for either of these two groups, more a frustration with how the UAF is being used as a tool by the Establishment to drum up disorder and racial intolerance. You asked for a list of human traits earlier but only two are relevant to this discussion, self-preservation and fear of the unknown, two concepts which exist in the very fabric of our consciousness and are the engine for both sides of the religious divide, be they Muslim or otherwise. I've noticed that you talk freely about 'tasty lads', those that are 'up for it' and football hooligans...all references to the kind of Danny Dyer-a-like, Stone Island wearing mugs who may or may not be found hanging around UAF marches looking to kick off with anyone who doesn't look hard enough to have a go back. Maybe you're the type who hides in the middle where it's safe, or just bounces around with your hood up 'so the old bill don't recognise me'...either way, you need slow down, read a few good history books, and stop masturbating over old West Ham v. Millwall vids on YouTube.

good post:cool:

[theoutlawjournalist]

I think some student should; send emails back and circulate the truth about EDL my last post above (their own words) along with the video of black and white EDL men burning a Nazi flag.


Already on it ;)

[oioioi]

You've shot yourself in the foot (again)...taking an overview of the thread so far it's clear that there is no outright 'support' for either of these two groups, more a frustration with how the UAF is being used as a tool by the Establishment to drum up disorder and racial intolerance. You asked for a list of human traits earlier but only two are relevant to this discussion, self-preservation and fear of the unknown, two concepts which exist in the very fabric of our consciousness and are the engine for both sides of the religious divide, be they Muslim or otherwise. I've noticed that you talk freely about 'tasty lads', those that are 'up for it' and football hooligans...all references to the kind of Danny Dyer-a-like, Stone Island wearing mugs who may or may not be found hanging around UAF marches looking to kick off with anyone who doesn't look hard enough to have a go back. Maybe you're the type who hides in the middle where it's safe, or just bounces around with your hood up 'so the old bill don't recognise me'...either way, you need slow down, read a few good history books, and stop masturbating over old West Ham v. Millwall vids on YouTube.

It was me who said this.

I'm certainly not a football hooligan who craves for this type of situation, I'm a pacifist. I am however aware of such groups and their behaviours as both groups, EDL and anti-fa, have football hoolie types within their numbers then it is relevant.

[zephiloyd]

This thread seems to have been busy since last night. To all EDL/BNP supporters, it's like this. Basically, no good can come from any amount of discussion with any of you. You're all too set in your twisted racist ways to see reason so it's not even worth bothering with you. Energy is precious and not to be wasted. You think what you like but at the end of the day when you need a doctor remember to ask for a non Muslim one yeah? The people see through your organizations anyway. I've seen you jeered out of many a city/town, many times. You say also, well someone said last night, that you'd train your own doctors up. How when you think the UAF (students) are all tree huggers. You realise doctors were students once don't you? Probably not. Haha so er, yeah, good luck with training your own doctors up. Just watch Holby City a few times you'll be ok....And with that i say, have a nice life. Don't forget you reap what you sow. I'm not up for coming back to this prison a second time round but then we all make our own choices. Be careful how you treat strangers.

People who don't agree with you are not necessarily racist, its bigger than that. You haven't learnt anything since yesterday. You obviously came here with an agenda, and it didn't work out for you, because you are unable to challenge people successfully, now you are frustrated because you don't understand why you can't get people to agree with you, all you can do is spout lame accusations and slogans that you've been taught by the mass media. You are attacking the messengers and not the message, when you do this you lose. You have chosen sides because of popularity, there is no substance in your arguements. In future I suggest you do more research into this subject based on history.

[lextorite]

This is turning out to be a .....

DIVIDE AND CONQUER THREAD

when are you gonna realize this??????

[griffinman]

when are you gonna realize this??????

As soon as someone writes it in giant fonts...

oh there we go...

We're not expected to agree all the time are we?

off to check forum rules

[theoutlawjournalist]

This is turning out to be a .....

DIVIDE AND CONQUER THREAD

when are you gonna realize this??????


It's proper naughty!

[lextorite]

It's proper naughty!


It's good to be naughty and disobey the authority....:D

[theoutlawjournalist]

It was me who said this



So you did! I must have got confused during my blustering, self-righteous rant ;) I stand by what I said, but the hoolie stuff was directed at Alex Kidd not you, so please ignore. At least I saved space in the thread by combining my posts...

[griffinman]

yep, it was oioioi who said he noticed some tasty men in the pub.

No doubt they had been working out or something..

[spragga_benz]

This thread is fishy.

Distinctly off-tone for this forum.

I suspect that at least one of the contributors to this thread is an Oxbridge-educated thinktank bod on a government payroll.

[gremlin]

This thread is fishy.

Distinctly off-tone for this forum.

I suspect that at least one of the contributors to this thread is an Oxbridge-educated thinktank bod on a government payroll.

oioioi i reckon, council house my arse.

[griffinman]

I suspect that at least one of the contributors to this thread is an Oxbridge-educated thinktank bod on a government payroll.

Can we actually have one day on the David Icke forum, where someone doesn't accuse another poster of being a disinfo agent?
One day... that's all I ask....one day.... is it too much?

[oioioi]

oioioi i reckon, council house my arse.

Flat.

[spragga_benz]

Can we actually have one day on the David Icke forum, where someone doesn't accuse another poster of being a disinfo agent?
One day... that's all I ask....one day.... is it too much?

Why? Is it too implausible? Or would you just like for it to seem implausible?

[bendoon]

This is turning out to be a .....

DIVIDE AND CONQUER THREAD

when are you gonna realize this??????

Muslims are being sent into the country to divide and conquer us, we know that, thats why we are trying to put a stop to it.

[eternal_spirit]

Muslims are being sent into the country to divide and conquer us, we know that, thats why we are trying to put a stop to it.
Well yes it's as plain as day to those with eyes and ears. Those still in denial of reality are in for a big suprise if they ever wake up.

Unless they think Islam is all good and good for Britain, then they are also asleep to reality.

One of the founders of EDL who has now left claims EDL had been infiltrated by extremists. I'll try find the article. Political solutions are the best answer.

[oioioi]

One of the founders of EDL who has now left claims EDL had been infiltrated by extremists.

Was his tongue poking out of his cheek?

[eternal_spirit]

EDL CLAIMS IT HAS MUSLIMS' SUPPORT


THE English Defence League last night claimed it had been swamped with messages of support from all races.

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And the masked men also said followers of Islam had contacted the EDL after the group produced a video proclaiming it is “anti-fascist”.


The EDL, which claims it is defending British values against Muslim extremism, received hundreds of new registrations and postings on its website.


Yesterday the Daily Star revealed exclusive photos of the group’s swastika-burning video, which was its response to critics who say the organisation’s true motives can be compared to the Nazis.


The EDL said its campaign is only against hate-preaching fanatics, terrorists and Sharia Law.


It says it has wrongly been linked with the far-right and BNP and only calls for integration. It said moderate Muslims were welcome in the country.


An EDL spokesman said: “The article about our activities has produced an amazing response.


“We’ve had Sikhs, Hindus, black people, Jews and even Muslims contacting us.


“Quite a few said they had gone on to our website for the first time and, after reading our views and aims, realised they previously had the wrong impression about us.


“They saw we want peaceful protest against extremism and said they agree with what we stand for.


“Many seemed pleased that they’d found someone who stood up for what they feel.”


Meanwhile, it emerged that a Scottish Defence League and a Welsh Defence League have also been formed.



And new plans were being made yesterday for EDL demonstrations in Stoke and Oldham to add to the six already arranged across the country for the coming months.


On the EDL website, one Libyan-born Muslim who converted to Christianity in 2006 claimed he had been attacked for expressing his views on Islam while in a British immigrant detention centre. He said he had hospital records to prove it.



The EDL spokesman said: “That’s the sort of intolerance we are campaigning against.


“We agree with people having their own religions but they should accept others and fully integrate into the UK.”


But last night Unite Against Fascism dismissed the EDL’s claims.


A spokesman said: “We don’t believe their claims.


“They go to multi-racial areas in an attempt to provoke a response.


“The EDL is looking for an excuse, which they say is silencing extremists and stopping terrorists.”


http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/100210/EDL-claims-it-has-Muslims-support/

[eternal_spirit]

Was his tongue poking out of his cheek?
As far as I know they were originally a bunch of football gangs and squaddies, the latter in particular got pissed off when Muslims turned up when coffins of dead soliders where being paraded somewhere in England.

[oioioi]

As far as I know they were originally a bunch of football gangs and squaddies, the latter in particular got pissed off when Muslims turned up when coffins of dead soliders where being paraded somewhere in England.

Casuals United.

[gremlin]

One of the founders of EDL who has now left claims EDL had been infiltrated by extremists. I'll try find the article. Political solutions are the best answer.

No If you look at london, It has muslim members who are proud to be english, you'll always get the odd 1 or 2 that hate that, as the saying goes, "you can't please everyone".

Look at the EDL now and bolton is saturday keep a look at that one because If the EDL can keep their heads they will be laughing.

[lextorite]

EDL CLAIMS IT HAS MUSLIMS' SUPPORT


THE English Defence League last night claimed it had been swamped with messages of support from all races.

#bodycopy a { font-size: 12px; }
And the masked men also said followers of Islam had contacted the EDL after the group produced a video proclaiming it is “anti-fascist”.


The EDL, which claims it is defending British values against Muslim extremism, received hundreds of new registrations and postings on its website.


Yesterday the Daily Star revealed exclusive photos of the group’s swastika-burning video, which was its response to critics who say the organisation’s true motives can be compared to the Nazis.


The EDL said its campaign is only against hate-preaching fanatics, terrorists and Sharia Law.


It says it has wrongly been linked with the far-right and BNP and only calls for integration. It said moderate Muslims were welcome in the country.


An EDL spokesman said: “The article about our activities has produced an amazing response.


“We’ve had Sikhs, Hindus, black people, Jews and even Muslims contacting us.


“Quite a few said they had gone on to our website for the first time and, after reading our views and aims, realised they previously had the wrong impression about us.


“They saw we want peaceful protest against extremism and said they agree with what we stand for.


“Many seemed pleased that they’d found someone who stood up for what they feel.”


Meanwhile, it emerged that a Scottish Defence League and a Welsh Defence League have also been formed.



And new plans were being made yesterday for EDL demonstrations in Stoke and Oldham to add to the six already arranged across the country for the coming months.


On the EDL website, one Libyan-born Muslim who converted to Christianity in 2006 claimed he had been attacked for expressing his views on Islam while in a British immigrant detention centre. He said he had hospital records to prove it.



The EDL spokesman said: “That’s the sort of intolerance we are campaigning against.


“We agree with people having their own religions but they should accept others and fully integrate into the UK.”


But last night Unite Against Fascism dismissed the EDL’s claims.


A spokesman said: “We don’t believe their claims.


“They go to multi-racial areas in an attempt to provoke a response.


“The EDL is looking for an excuse, which they say is silencing extremists and stopping terrorists.”


http://www.dailystar.co.uk/posts/view/100210/EDL-claims-it-has-Muslims-support/

A very interesting article. Thanks

[eternal_spirit]

No If you look at london, It has muslim members who are proud to be english, you'll always get the odd 1 or 2 that hate that, as the saying goes, "you can't please everyone".

Look at the EDL now and bolton is saturday keep a look at that one because If the EDL can keep their heads they will be laughing.
I am just trying to get to the truth of the matter. Maybe anything that provokes the true nature of Islam is good in the long run.

The UAF have been proven liars, they have been caught out telling lies about what happens at demos etc (you tube vids, eye witnessess, including x UAF supporters have been disgusted by UAF tactics)

UAF are well known for turning up to use and provoke violence, it's always been the Communists way.
Never forget Communism was by far the biggest killer of the past century.

So many of those allied with Communism are very sick puppies indeed.

[eternal_spirit]

A very interesting article. Thanks

Looks different now we have reports from different sides than what was in the MSM last year etc. We wanna know the truth.

The UAF have always tried to put the EDL in the same group as BNP, which is another of their lies. BNP and EDL constantly deny any affiliation. Also BNP do not do demos anymore.

Anyone who isn't on their "UAF" Commie bandwagon will be labelled racist far right (lie)


Of course everyone knows I am against Islamisation, but am a bit weary of EDL.

Will be interesting to see what happens in Bolton, trying to figure out who is really who is of interest. Because as usual we'll hear completely different stories from all sides.

Hopefully the you tubers will be there to correct any more UAF and media lies as usual.

[oioioi]

You not going to Bolton e_s?
:rolleyes:

[eternal_spirit]

You not going to Bolton e_s?
:rolleyes:
No, I wouldn't fit in.

[oioioi]

No, I wouldn't fit in.

I hope your not suggesting either group is discriminatory!

:p

[cpfc12]

To be honest, i am not to bothered about immigration, but i am bothered about the middle class liberals who class those, and judge those who are against immigrations, its a class war. The white working class are looked down upon by the white middle class lefters and righters.
In the end of the day, this is just causing further anger, and their approach of patronising anyone considering voting for the bnp, is just going to get more people voting. i mean cmon how many of these liberals where born in a poor area, with existing racial tensions. Most of them can't judge, as they have never been in that situation, and if they where, chances are nick griffin would be their hero.
Already these "sorts" would have cut off from reading my post, and claim i am a bnp sympathiser. Which is a load of bollocks, i feel that this is a typical element of divide and rule, created by the media, to prevent the working classes uniting to maybe doing something positive, in these troubled fiancial times, happened in the 70s between the blacks and NF and will happen now.
So we focus our attentions on a more tangiable "threat" than the fat cat bankers who have fucked off in the yachts somewhere. However this is not denying that there is a threat, and racial tensions do exist. It is hard if you are the only white kid growing up in a community that is full of foreigners, the pecking order, would mean that you are singled out and bullied, and whenever racism is mentioned, they always show your stereotypical white skin head, shit like this, will mess with your head. However remember its the middle class idealists who are in the media, and pushing this message, not the blacks and musilims.

Another thing i find quite amusing, is the stereotype that guardian pushes out, of the anti immigrant yobs all being these white hooligans, in my time living in south london, alot of the prejudice openly displayed towards immigrants, that i have seen, has been by 3rd generation immigrants , ironically. For example other day, in Norwood, in south london, a black girl was having a go at a black bus driver, calling him a "dumb african". same thing happened with two iranian women, complaining about a mosque being built next to their house. See in today's "multicultrual society" there is a no simple thing, as black and white racism.

It was like a few years ago, a policeman i know of, was criticised by some T.v critic, on one of those cop shows, for asking a black man, what race was the suspect who gave him racial abuse, he simply asked if he was white, and the journalist scum, was commenting on this, saying along the lines" well of course the racist is going to be white".
This is not the case, alot of racism in a city like london, is cross cultrual, Turks versus Kurds, english against poles, africans versus british born blacks.

This just shows us that, our media, and its opinions, are a mixture, of the ptb agenda of dividing and ruling us, in these tough times, and naive middle class views, from people who got a degree in social sciences, and think they know everything.

One last point, not saying we should allow everyone in this country, or whatever, but lets not forget that we did fuck up the middle east, so to speak, sanctions alone in the 90's caused around 2 million deaths in Iraq alone, similar to the shit Stalin pulled on his own people. not failing to mention the carpet bombing of Iraq, and God knows what else we are doing over. But then again its the poor of both countries that have to suffer :(

Peace x

[oioioi]

Already these "sorts" would have cut off from reading my post, and claim i am a bnp sympathiser. Which is a load of bollocks, i feel that this is a typical element of divide and rule, created by the media, to prevent the working classes uniting to maybe doing something positive

Yet you 'divide and rule' yourself based on class.

Why can't someone from a 'working class' background be anti-racist, I'm very curious to hear?

[cpfc12]

Yet you 'divide and rule' yourself based on class.

Why can't someone from a 'working class' background be anti-racist, I'm very curious to hear?

Cmon lets face it, most of those attending UAF marches are trendy looking students, not being deterministic, as everyone has free will, but a poor white council estate is going to be a breeding ground for bnp voters.

[griffinman]

Cmon lets face it, most of those attending UAF marches are trendy looking students,

lol true

[griffinman]

Why can't someone from a 'working class' background be anti-racist, I'm very curious to hear?

see you're doing it again..suggesting the UAF are anti-racist.
naturally implying, anyone who disagrees with them is a... racist.

That's all the UAF do... chant 'racist scum' 'racist scum'
It's a joke man..

[nirvana]

Check out the UAF at the 5TH march 48 arrested for violence EDL 0

So what was your point?:confused:



UAF is proboly one of the biggest fascist groups in the UK. The brown shirts for new labour.

They used to be called anti-nazi league. And gave david icke alot of hassel trying to close his talks and throw things at him.

But they were doing this for the working class:rolleyes:

[nirvana]

Bit of consistency would be nice.

Like to see the UAF protesting against islamification of certain areas.
Like to see the UAF take on London's racist immigrant gangs...


The UAF would never protest against extremist islamic groups they would be scared about losing support from the Islamic community.

When the uaf were called anti-nazi league they held a demonstration in defence of free speach for Abu Hamsa .There excuse was they are both fighting imperialism. :rolleyes:

[nirvana]

Dispossessed of their country? Well which country are you talking about here? Which is YOUR country exactly? Many Muslims are born here. How can you not understand something so simple. They in fact sided with us during world war 2. What is it about Islam and Muslims that frightens you so much? Please don't give the extremism rant because i think we established long ago that wasn't accurate. So if it isn't extremism what is it exactly that Muslims are doing to you that makes you so fearful for YOUR country?


I suppose the things that scare you about these Islamic radicals is there back packs and explosives:eek:

You seen what happend with the cartoons nearly lead to WW3. The moderate muslim need to confront and distance themselves from the extremists.Or else they get lumped together.

[bendoon]

Why can't someone from a 'working class' background be anti-racist, I'm very curious to hear?

Because the working classes have to live with the daily horrors of multiculturalism whilst the middle classes are tucked away safely in the leafy suburbs. Selfish despicable oinks, every last one of them.

And as he pointed out in the rest of his post, antiracist is just a code word for ant white. So what self respecting white working class person would be anti white.

[eternal_spirit]

Dispossessed of their country? Well which country are you talking about here? Which is YOUR country exactly? Many Muslims are born here.

Put islamisation into a search is the best place to start. ..then try islamisation of Britian/Europe.


How can you not understand something so simple. They in fact sided with us during world war 2.
No they never they sided with Germany. The Islamic Ottoman Empire/Turks, Germany, Japan versus the Anglo American and allies.
But Germany has some Jews, assorted Europeans, S.E Asians, and some blacks on their side too. And probably more.

I may have read somewhere there was small number of Muslims fighting alongside the Anglo Americans. The wars are very complicated, people for the same countries/religions fought eachother, some changed sides during the wars.

What is it about Islam and Muslims that frightens you so much? Please don't give the extremism rant because i think we established long ago that wasn't accurate. So if it isn't extremism what is it exactly that Muslims are doing to you that makes you so fearful for YOUR country?


Put islamisation into a search is the best place to start. ..then try islamisation of Britian/Europe. Then
Dar al Islam Dar al Harb (Islam 101) Oh and Muslim gangs...

[lextorite]

I suppose the things that scare you about these Islamic radicals is there back packs and explosives:eek:

And don't forget the CIA and MOSSAD money to fund them....:D

[lextorite]

No, I wouldn't fit in.

A1++++++++++

[lextorite]

Cmon lets face it, most of those attending UAF marches are trendy looking students, not being deterministic, as everyone has free will, but a poor white council estate is going to be a breeding ground for bnp voters.

And the poor non-white council estates is going to be a breeding ground for violance against BNP supporters.......it's a never-ending loop.........!!!!!

[lextorite]

see you're doing it again..suggesting the UAF are anti-racist.
naturally implying, anyone who disagrees with them is a... racist.

That's all the UAF do... chant 'racist scum' 'racist scum'
It's a joke man..

or nazi scum, nazi scum......and you get the EDL chanting back, you're not English anymore....both sides are just as bad as each other........DIVIDE THE SHEEPLE AND CONQUER....:D

[griffinman]

Because the working classes have to live with the daily horrors of multiculturalism whilst the middle classes are tucked away safely in the leafy suburbs. Selfish despicable oinks, every last one of them.

And as he pointed out in the rest of his post, antiracist is just a code word for ant white. So what self respecting white working class person would be anti white.

^
Rockin post :cool:

[griffinman]

or nazi scum, nazi scum......and you get the EDL chanting back, you're not English anymore....both sides are just as bad as each other........DIVIDE THE SHEEPLE AND CONQUER....:D

You can only keep that one going for so long, eventually you're going to have to choose. whether you like to or not.
This ain't multiculturalism, this is genocide!

[bendoon]

or nazi scum, nazi scum......and you get the EDL chanting back, you're not English anymore....

But at least the EDL are telling the truth. :D

[oioioi]

And as he pointed out in the rest of his post, antiracist is just a code word for ant white. So what self respecting white working class person would be anti white.

Getting the hang of this doublespeak now aren't you. Anti-racist=anti-white, even if the racism is carried out by non-whites?

Try harder.

[bendoon]

I've never seen a middle class twerp calling anyone but a white working class person a racist. Therefore I am bound to see the term racist as an attack on the white working class, so not only is racist a code word for anti white it's also a bourgoisie attack on the working class.

My reconsidered opinion thanks to oioioioi;


Racist; A term used by the Bourgoisie in an attempt to vilify the white working class.
Anti-racist; A member of the Bourgoisie who hates the white working class

[lextorite]

You can only keep that one going for so long, eventually you're going to have to choose. whether you like to or not.
This ain't multiculturalism, this is genocide!

Why should I fall into the left/right paradigm, that's what the sheeple do....:D

[nirvana]

And don't forget the CIA and MOSSAD money to fund them....:D


Yes agree:)

[lextorite]

But at least the EDL are telling the truth. :D


If a muslim, Indian or a West Indian joined the EDL, would they be English too?

[nirvana]

But at least the EDL are telling the truth. :D


No group tells the truth:cool:

Theres allways a higher group controlling both sides;)

[lextorite]

No group tells the truth:cool:

Theres allways a higher group controlling both sides;)

It be interesting to know who funds the EDL and UAF....!!!!

[bendoon]

If a muslim, Indian or a West Indian joined the EDL, would they be English too?

They would be given honorary Englishmanship for services rendered in defence of the realm :D

[lextorite]

They would be given honorary Englishmanship for services rendered in defence of the realm :D

That's good to hear...:D

[griffinman]

I've never seen a middle class twerp calling anyone but a white working class person a racist.

That is so true... :D

You're on top form today.

[oioioi]

I've never seen a middle class twerp calling anyone but a white working class person a racist. Therefore I am bound to see the term racist as an attack on the white working class, so not only is racist a code word for anti white it's also a bourgoisie attack on the working class.

My reconsidered opinion thanks to oioioioi;


Racist; A term used by the Bourgoisie in an attempt to vilify the white working class.
Anti-racist; A member of the Bourgoisie who hates the white working class

O................................................. .................................................. .....K

[griffinman]

Why should I fall into the left/right paradigm, that's what the sheeple do....:D

Nah, it' not left or right, the UAF are just a minor distraction.
It's not EDL vs UAF..
It's wait until your area is Islamicfied, wait until the gangs take over your area.
Then what?

[lextorite]

Nah, it' not left or right, the UAF are just a minor distraction.
It's not EDL vs UAF..
It's wait until your area is Islamicfied, wait until the gangs take over your area.
Then what?


Instead of discussing it on this forum, open up Word and start typing away and send out letters, go on the streets and wake up the sheeple.

Religion is a generated divide and conquer movement and that is what everyone should be fighting, an end to organized religion.

[gremlin]

It be interesting to know who funds the EDL and UAF....!!!!

EDL they work. UAF, they get funding from NUT national union of teachers.:D yes the UAF are teachers. middle class and self-righteous teaching children what they got programmed.:D

[griffinman]

Instead of discussing it on this forum, open up Word and start typing away and send out letters, go on the streets and wake up the sheeple.

I'm doing it , I'm doing it....

http://www.jesterartsillustrations.com/images/illustrations/xsmall2/30381_fast_3d_blue_and_white_ao-maru_robot_running_by.jpg

[lextorite]

i'm doing it , i'm doing it....

http://www.jesterartsillustrations.com/images/illustrations/xsmall2/30381_fast_3d_blue_and_white_ao-maru_robot_running_by.jpg


lmao....!!!

[griffinman]

lmao....!!!

It's settled, I've got a new avatar..:D

[nirvana]

EDL they work. UAF, they get funding from NUT national union of teachers.:D yes the UAF are teachers. middle class and self-righteous teaching children what they got programmed.:D


Are you seriously saying the edl fund themselves?:rolleyes: They may very well do up to a point.
But who pulls the strings at the top of the pyramid:eek:

[gremlin]

Are you seriously saying the edl fund themselves?:rolleyes: They may very well do up to a point.
But who pulls the strings at the top of the pyramid:eek:

got any evidence or is that just more assumptions.

Their are buddist's jews pagans and a chinese man going to bolton together. bloody racists the lot of them:D

[biggles]

Diversity is the cause of racial tension. The fantasists in the Far Left are obsessed with the idea of vastly different cultures living together in perfect harmony, but human nature says differently. I question your agenda Mr Kidd.

I'll add my 2 bob. The System knows full well that the bringing such odd matchings into the fabric of society will ensure it kicks off. Each side at each others throats and when that happens the system simply mops up under the NWO agenda.

Are we all lemmings that we can't see that all sides are being played like an out of tune fiddle?

Ultimatley it the people who pay the price or to use ':their' satanic word: 'Sacrafice'.

Meanwhile this is a good tune...Robert owens and Photek.
YouTube - Broadcast Yourself.

[griffinman]

I'll add my 2 bob. The System knows full well that the bringing such odd matchings into the fabric of society will ensure it kicks off. Each side at each others throats and when that happens the system simply mops up under the NWO agenda.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=nyiRjo_brQY&feature=related

Looks that way.
Or to dilute society, thus making opposition null and void.

Either way they win.:mad:

[biggles]

Looks that way.
Or to dilute society, thus making opposition null and void.

Either way they win.:mad:

Thats right- All gentiles will be herded together in an universal cess pit and only those who kiss the Dark Ringer of the Lizard Tribe will get any benefits.

[gremlin]

I'm doing it , I'm doing it....

http://www.jesterartsillustrations.com/images/illustrations/xsmall2/30381_fast_3d_blue_and_white_ao-maru_robot_running_by.jpg

So that's what you look like:D

[oioioi]

So that's what you look like:D

According to the UAF, police and EDL he looks like an EDL member.

[griffinman]

According to the UAF, police and EDL he looks like an EDL member.

yep a er green jacket and woolly hat is the dress code of the EDL.

EE EDL....

[gremlin]

I've just read on a website about bolton tomorrow that they want to kill members of the EDL:D

So which side do you support?

[nirvana]

got any evidence or is that just more assumptions.

Their are buddist's jews pagans and a chinese man going to bolton together. bloody racists the lot of them:D


Yes there are alot of good people in the EDL. But who pulls the strings at the top?:rolleyes:

[nirvana]

I've just read on a website about bolton tomorrow that they want to kill members of the EDL:D

So which side do you support?


This will be the nice UAF. They love to play the victim status and then when no ones looking 20 on to one. :eek:

[tonytibs]

I think most of you people are biting this NWO idea, did I not read that EU is to take in 30M Africans so they can plant crops all over Africa I am not a faciest but to flood Btitain with imigrants is to get us mindset to have all the cultures of the world in one place to the detrament of my wage negoiations I will not work for £5.70 per feckin hour witch is their agenda, just like china. Before anybody has a swipe do I want the little Paki guy (no slur intended) who sells me a paper in the morn to bugger of home. NO! or the indian or chinese cooks who feed me at midnight NNNNNNOOOOOOO! but we cannot keep flooding the country with migrants this is the NWO agenda LAB/CON/ LIB. same agenda differant faces(SCUMBAGS).

[gremlin]

Yes there are alot of good people in the EDL. But who pulls the strings at the top?:rolleyes:

You are looking for a hitler type aren't you:D interesting question I will try to find out but don't be surprised If it's just a bloke who works 40 hrs a week in a factory.:D

[nirvana]

You are looking for a hitler type aren't you:D interesting question I will try to find out but don't be surprised If it's just a bloke who works 40 hrs a week in a factory.:D


I dont think anyone in the EDL will know who pulls the strings etc. But I respect the EDL to march and demonstrate they are less fascist than they marxists and UAF:cool:

Uaf is proboly one of the most fascist groups for along time.

[eternal_spirit]

Uaf is proboly one of the most fascist groups for along time.

1400 years of Islamofascists is a very long time.

[zephiloyd]

I think most of you people are biting this NWO idea, did I not read that EU is to take in 30M Africans so they can plant crops all over Africa I am not a faciest but to flood Btitain with imigrants is to get us mindset to have all the cultures of the world in one place to the detrament of my wage negoiations I will not work for £5.70 per feckin hour witch is their agenda, just like china. Before anybody has a swipe do I want the little Paki guy (no slur intended) who sells me a paper in the morn to bugger of home. NO! or the indian or chinese cooks who feed me at midnight NNNNNNOOOOOOO! but we cannot keep flooding the country with migrants this is the NWO agenda LAB/CON/ LIB. same agenda differant faces(SCUMBAGS).

Just a doom laden thought: they are spreading people around the world and mixing them all up so that when the great Earth changing catastrophe comes in two years, and only a small % are left, those people will be a nice mixture of different humans, rather than the indigenous inhabitants of these unaffected areas

[shepherdess]

[QUOTE=gremlin;1058726126]The EDL had permission to protest so the nazi's wanted to prevent the EDL from protesting.

I can't see how they were acting violent:confused: they were shouting i agree their, but no fist's. no kicking, and If you take the green man he was shouting back too, so to be fair shouting on both sides.

One green man shouting at a hoard of thugs using bad language? I didnt see any EDL getting arresting for using bad language or inciting racial hatred, which they do.

Maybe a bit extreme but when you consider the EDL HAD A RIGHT TO PROTEST the nazi UAF weren't going to let them so what would you do in that situation?

Apparently, the UAF are mostly muslim "nazi's"?

The EDL had stewards who made sure they kept people in line, the ole dutch courage kicking in. The EDL are about peaceful protests it's a new organisation they have teething problems, Wouldn't you kick off to If you weren't allowed free speech???????????
I'm sure the EDL if arrested would of paid thier fines as most of them do work for a living.

Yes I would, and yet when the Muslims want to protest about their lack of freedom of speech the EDL and BNP throw a tantrum and the government ban the marches! You cant have one without the other

They turn up to provoke that's what they do, can't they organize a protest of their own objecting to the EDL/BNP???? no they love the violence and the clashes they know the media will side with them. It's an utter disgrace!!!

They turn up to do exactly what they did do, sit on the floor and get in the way to stop an aggressive protest. Why do the EDL turn up at Muslim marches? TO PROVOKE!! As for loving clashes, when ever someone else wants to protest the EDL and BNP are right there waiting.They are pretending to be calm gentle peaceful folk and yet every one of us knows that is not true.

Yes there are plenty of people involved in the UAF who are more aggressive than they should be. There were plenty of people involved in the attacks on the toffs during anti-hunting demonstrations. I fail to see though, how a bunch of people linking arms on the floor and NOT NEEDING STEWARDS to nanny them, can be arrested whereas you can see people trying to get past the stewards being held back and they get 0 arrests

If the media were taking sides, surely they would not be arresting people in the UAF for pre-crime, as they did, and as you can see and publishing the figures in the media as you did, EDL 0 arrests: UAF 48 (or whatever it was)

[eternal_spirit]

30 UAF arrested so far for attacking innocent people in the streets, which appear to be race attacks against lone whites.

UAF attacking the police.

Police injured by the UAF.

Live footage here of police going into UAF and arresting thugs ;



http://media.theboltonnews.co.uk/bolton/edl/

[eternal_spirit]

30 UAF arrested so far for attacking innocent people in the streets, which appear to be race attacks against lone whites.

UAF attacking the police.

Police injured by the UAF.

Live footage here of police going into UAF and arresting thugs ;



http://media.theboltonnews.co.uk/bolton/edl/

two thousand plus edl members and one and a half thousand uaf. Organiser of uaf demo arrested on suspicion ofconspiracy to commit violence...

[gremlin]

two thousand plus edl members and one and a half thousand uaf. Organiser of uaf demo arrested on suspicion ofconspiracy to commit violence...

I tell ya they are unevolved monkies these UAF!!! If this is what the establishment are teaching and the teachers are teaching your children it makes you wonder. Self education is all you need the system is crumbling and the controllers are on the run:D